1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of I Heart Radio. Welcome 2 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: back to the show Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as always 3 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: so much for tuning in. What is the weirdest thing 4 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: you have ever done to impress someone? And that's part 5 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: of what we're exploring today. Hi, my name is Ben. 6 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: Hey Ben, my name is still Know. I'm having a 7 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: hard time putting my finger on the weirdest thing I've 8 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: done to impress anybody. I'm pretty vanilla when it comes 9 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: to impressing people, like you mean, like a date or something, 10 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: or just kind of showing out for your peers or 11 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm apparently a name dropper. I've been 12 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: doing that a lot, and that that's not doesn't go 13 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: overwell most of the time. But that's probably the weirdest 14 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: thing I do to impress people, and it never works 15 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: because they find it grading and uh, completely self aggrandizing. 16 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: So I'm really working on stopping doing them. On that note, 17 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: I talked to Elvira last night, and yeah, she's as 18 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: cool as you would think. Let me tell you. Yeah, 19 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: I gotta say no, I have your back and most 20 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: things in general, and uh, you know, since this is 21 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,559 Speaker 1: a history show, I'll admit my own personal rap sheet 22 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: of uh well intentioned but ill delivered flexes is pretty extensive. Uh. 23 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: There's one person who always flexes on this show. That's 24 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: our super producer, Casey Pegram flexing. That producer muscle there 25 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: he is, Uh you the sound cubes and all. And 26 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: as you will recall long time listeners, a while back, 27 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: we dived deep into the idea of historical flexes and 28 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: luckily we got two people much cooler than us to join. 29 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: We've actually convinced these people to join us on the 30 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: show today. You know them as the host of the 31 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: Daily Zeitgeist. Welcome back to the show, Jack O'Brien and 32 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: Miles Gray. Thank you guys so much for coming back 33 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 1: to flex a little bit more. That is the sound 34 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: of me flexing. Weirdly, just love getting some blood into 35 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: my muscles. Flex it up a little bit, pump as 36 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 1: it were. No better exercise than sitting at a desk 37 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: gapping into a microphone. Oh yeah, I have covid neck. 38 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: My my neck has gotten fatter than it was and 39 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: that's something that I've been very acutely aware of because 40 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: of all the low angle shots on Zoom. Yes, are you? 41 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: Are you? Developing bad posture. Are you developing a slouch? 42 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: Is it like taco neck? Or your neck is always 43 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: to the side a little bit. Now now it's just 44 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: like a little layer of fat underneath my neck because 45 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: I'm getting older and because I'm eating way worse than 46 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: I'm not leaving the house. So that's why I think 47 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 1: grow in this beard to cover cover my covid neck. 48 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: You know, I have a podcasting malady, which is podcaster 49 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: but where you're gluteus muscles atrophy at a rate so rapid. 50 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: Most scientists are baffled from all of this hitting um, 51 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 1: and I've used this time to like strengthen them. Well, 52 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: as soon as they cracked the whole covid uh, you know, epidemic, 53 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll get right on solving podcast but I 54 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: think that's it's a close to Yeah. I also like 55 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: how Miles you pointed out most scientists imply and therefore 56 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: that there are a couple of luminaries in the field 57 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: of the podcasting malady and its effect on the butt muscles. Uh. 58 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: Speaking in fantastic segues, we have asked you our brothers 59 00:03:55,040 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: and podcast arms to help us illustrate. Some were historical flexes. 60 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: Long time listeners, you'll recall that the last time Miles 61 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: and Jack joined us on the show, we learned some 62 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: things that uh frankly haunt me on a personal level. 63 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: And uh we also left the show thinking this is 64 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: just scratching the surface of the weird. So today we 65 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: return to look at some more historical flexes. No, no, 66 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: how would I think we did a pretty good job 67 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: in our previous episodes. How would we define an historical flex? Well, 68 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: Urban Dictionary defines uh to flex, meaning to boast or 69 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: show off about something, and the phrase weird flex but 70 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: okay has sort of become an Internet parlance that is 71 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: a sort of dismissive response to when somebody proudly boasts 72 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: or brags about something that most people would find, um, 73 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: you know, either ridiculous or not cool at all, or 74 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: kind of irrelevant or just weird. I always love the 75 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: Urban Dictionary. Um little italicized examples. Uh, this one here 76 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: says girl one, I'm dating my friend's dad. If we 77 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,119 Speaker 1: ever get married, I'll become her step mom. Response, weird 78 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: flex but okay. Uh, that's an elaborate weird flex. It's 79 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: beautiful too, because you can apply it. I mean, many 80 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: of our episodes in Ridiculous History could be uh dismissed 81 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: with a weird flex but okay, that's sort of the 82 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,679 Speaker 1: nature of the show. But we're going a little deeper 83 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: and trying to really highlight some individuals that are showing 84 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: out and showing off in in bizarre and and kind 85 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: of inexplicable ways. Yeah. So, uh, we had talked affair 86 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: about some flexes, and one thing that's pretty exciting about 87 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: it is I think we're all going to surprise each 88 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: other maybe a little bit. Uh. Now we are at 89 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: the point where we're gonna spend this episode sort of 90 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: trading stories of weird flexes. Now, Jack Miles, you are 91 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: the you are the guests, and you're you know, honestly 92 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: the reason most people are tuning in. Uh, let's be 93 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: honest about that. So self deprecation is also a weird flex. 94 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: Let me there we go. Yeah, I mean, yeah, we 95 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: agreed to this show because you said we'd get way 96 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: more listeners because all this is to our show, so 97 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: it's worth it for us. So I'm bad. I'm glad 98 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: you gave us the opportunity to So that's a two ways. Thanks. Yeah, 99 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: I think this is coming out just after Mother's Day. So, uh, 100 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: thank you to all the moms in the crowd listening. Yeah, 101 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: number one fans. Uh so god, we have so many 102 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: weird flexes. Who would like to do the honors? You know? 103 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: I propose that Jack or Miles would be It would 104 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: be one of you guys, because Nolan I have As 105 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: he said, we're inundated with weird flexes. We have no 106 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: idea what's a normal flex now on on this show. 107 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: I am happy to to start us off. I don't 108 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: really I I just have one. We're gonna spend my 109 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: whole time talking about one person. But before we get 110 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: into his specific weird flexing, I want to ask you, guys, 111 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: how tall would you guess? If you're assuming you don't 112 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: know this fact, how tall would you guess? Uh? Stalin 113 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: was so I feels like a trick question because I'm like, well, 114 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: based on his actions, I feel he's a little guy, 115 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: and then I'd also believe, like, wait, he was tall 116 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: and still like that, I'm gonna say five six. Yeah, 117 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: he seems like a stocky Napoleon complex. He kind of dude, 118 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: but that could be the ruse here. I'm gonna say 119 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: five five. I'm just you know, and one penny just 120 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: to spread the board. I'll go five eight. I thought 121 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: he was a tall person. He was five four or 122 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: under five four, um, so he was. He was a 123 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: small person. So one of the weird ways that he 124 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: flexed on history was through photoshop. Before the invention of photoshop, 125 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: he UH would just delete people who he had had 126 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: killed or who he had sent to prison and no 127 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: longer was homies with UH. He would delete them from pictures. 128 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: And this was of course before the long before the 129 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: invention of photoshop. So he would just use his immense 130 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: power to you know, reach out to a bunch of 131 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: the best UH photo artists and just have pictures manipulated 132 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 1: and touched up until all the people he wanted to 133 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: be out of the picture, we're out of the picture. 134 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: And also he would have the pictures manipulated so he 135 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: looked tall. By the way, we've we've had to take 136 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: a bunch of selfies just because we always do photographs 137 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: with with every episode that we put up of The 138 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: Daily Zeigeist. And I've always made sure to shoot myself 139 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: from a low angle, looking like I'm looming large in 140 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: in my selfies. But h that was something. So Stalin 141 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: had a whole staff, a whole nation of people working 142 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: on that to make him look tall and also to 143 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: make him look handsome. And it worked on me because 144 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: I would have guessed if I if I had been 145 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: asked that question, I would have guessed he was like 146 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: over six ft tall. He just struck me as a 147 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: big guy, and the fact that he was a small 148 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: man is surprising to me. So that's one of the 149 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: weird flexes. Is just kind of inventing photoshop to look 150 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: cool and also destroy his enemies and to really erased 151 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: them from history. Is uh, my first weird flex. It 152 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: makes me think, you know about that film The Death 153 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: of Stalin, which I thought was pretty solid, right you 154 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: guys remember that one? How do they do that? I'm 155 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: so interested. There's no photoshop. This guy will literally have 156 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: you and your family killed if you don't airbrushed him out. Yeah, 157 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: get the mustache right for sake, you know, someone didn't 158 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: use the last so tool. And I mean he was 159 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: he had like really a pockmarked face. He was not 160 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: a great like he had like a withered left arm. 161 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: But so there was a lot of work to be done. 162 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: There were people who were inventing photoshop tools with like 163 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:58,599 Speaker 1: exact o knives and erasers and like charcoal uh many 164 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 1: many years ago, and you know, just sweating with a 165 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: gun barrel at the back of their neck, probably really 166 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: quickly to bring in super producer Casey pegram Um. Casey 167 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: is a bit of uh not not a bit of 168 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: a giant cinephile. And also, you know, photography buff. I 169 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 1: wonder if you have any thoughts on some of those 170 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: kinds of techniques like I took up you know, photography 171 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: class in college and using dark room, you can definitely 172 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: like use filters and things to superimpose images and then 173 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: print them onto new you know, photo paper. And I 174 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: wonder what you would think maybe some of the early 175 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: photo manipulation techniques around this time might have looked like yeah, 176 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 1: I mean photography has always kind of had that that 177 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,719 Speaker 1: level of manipulation possible in the development process when you 178 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: talk about dodging and burning and things like that, and 179 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: being able to use, you know, just physically manipulate images, 180 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: cut things together, pace some match the lighting, really do 181 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: your homework. I don't know. To me, it's fascinating that 182 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: like the skills that would have brought you to Stalin's 183 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: attention in the Soviet Union are now just like kids 184 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: making memes on like talking stuff Like it's really um, 185 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: it's really strange the historical disconnect there. I just want 186 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 1: to say one other thing. There's a documentary that came 187 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: out last year called State Funeral that is all just 188 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: documentary footage of Stalin's funeral, um, no voice over anything. 189 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: And it's actually pretty pretty fascinating to look at just 190 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: thousands of people in mourning for this guy who was 191 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: kind of terrorizing them, but they're all sort of having 192 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: to perform this act of mourning. I think it's gonna 193 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: be on streaming later this month if anybody wants to 194 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 1: check it out. Well, it's also a form of Stockholm 195 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: syndrome where like you know, the people like if you 196 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: watch Death of Stalin, like the people that were in 197 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: his inner circle on the one hand, wanted to supplant 198 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: him and wanted to like take power, but they were 199 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: so scared of him, and that fear almost manifested itself 200 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: in a weird reverence. But it is literally like he 201 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: is a terror, he is a absolute nightmare, but they 202 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: sort of kind of love him too. It's it's a 203 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: very yeah, And there's this weird moment where, you know, 204 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: the very they have the public viewing of Stalin's body 205 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: in the in the casket and you can sort of 206 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: see the reaction shots of people looking at him. It's 207 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: like they're looking at him really close to make sure 208 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: he's not just like in there. But still I really 209 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: really want to make sure that dude is dead before 210 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: I say what I have to say or whatever. Right, Yeah, 211 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: I mean they could also uh case some point, Uh, 212 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: dictators and authoritarians might flex by fake in their death 213 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: to see if anybody is out of pocket when they 214 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,839 Speaker 1: think that person is dead. I wouldn't have been particularly 215 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 1: elaborate for Stalin, as we're going to get to he 216 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 1: he loved to go to the ends of the earth 217 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: and just really elaborate lengths to just embarrass people. And 218 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: uh yeah, he was very petty. He was a very 219 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 1: petty man. I'll get into some of the ways he 220 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 1: was petty. Uh with my next weird flex miles, why 221 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: don't you take us away from st oh Man. So 222 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: I you know, last time I was talking about how 223 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: people were just like ripping apart like mummies for fun 224 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: and being like ha ha, rich people gathering on this 225 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: mummy and see what's inside. Let's this beautiful culture shout 226 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: out to England. So this whole thing I got me thinking. 227 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, well, flexes or can be a number 228 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: of things, and I think, uh flippantly, I'll also say 229 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: things are reflex when they're just so excessive. Uh. And 230 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: this flex uh in history, I would say, is a 231 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: tale of flex sssive violence. Um. And it comes from 232 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: Olga of Kiev. And I first heard about Olga of 233 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: Kiev because she's like she occupies the space of being 234 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: kievan russ like the sort of historical or the the 235 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: cult ancient culture that a lot of Russian and Ukrainian 236 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: people and many people in that area sort of point 237 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: to that they descend from. Um. And I studied Viking 238 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: history in college, and there's this a lot of talk 239 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: of how the Norse were part of this group and 240 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: that's why there's you know, these sort of Scandinavian features 241 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: are got there because there were these uh, these Norse 242 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: people that were there, and it was believed that this 243 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: woman Olga was actually of Norse origin. So she's like 244 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: also like a saint in the Orthodox Church. And I 245 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: believe also like she sainted in Norse culture as well 246 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: as Saint Helga, and she earned her saint hood with 247 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: how flexcessive she could be with her revenge. Now, she 248 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: was married to a king named Igor who was basically 249 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: you know. He was going around pulling up to different tribes, 250 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: this one being the Drevelans and said, hey, like, look, man, 251 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: I can you know you guys just bowed out to me. Okay, 252 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: like just bowed out. You know, see how big my 253 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: army is. I can just I can just run the 254 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: board right now, So just give it up, uh and 255 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: I'll keep it moving. They pay their tribut beute, and 256 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: for some reason he felt that halfway through he was like, 257 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: you know what, this isn't enough. This isn't enough. So 258 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: he goes back and demands more. But that time he 259 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: went with a smaller force of men, and he was 260 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: actually killed by the Drevelans. So after this they come 261 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: to his widow, which is uh Olga of Kiev, and 262 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: they say, hey, you know, well we got this great idea. Okay, look, 263 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: clearly you have no king. I guess you're in charge 264 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: because the next in line is like a baby. So 265 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: you are now the ruler, Um, why don't you, you know, 266 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: just mould this idea over for a little bit. We 267 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: think that you should marry the guy that killed your husband, uh, 268 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: and unite them and just bow to the drevelans and 269 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: just kind of let them know, like all's good, you're 270 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: loving it. Um. So they send twenty men to sort 271 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: of like coax her into this. And this is where 272 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: you begin to see how this uh, this particular ruler 273 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: thinks she's This is what she says, according to like 274 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: the records that were kept, she says, your proposal is 275 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: pleasing to me. Indeed, indeed, my husband cannot rise again 276 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: from the dead, but I desire to honor you tomorrow 277 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: in the presence of my people. Return now to your 278 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: boat and remained there with an aspect of arrogance. I 279 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: shall send for you in themorrow, and you shall say, 280 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: we will not ride on horses, nor go on foot, 281 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: carry us on our boat, and you shall be carried 282 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 1: in your boat. So the next day they get there, 283 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: they say the thing that people are like lifting up 284 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: the boat and they think, oh wow, we're like being honored. 285 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: This is so cool. Like they're walking our boat through 286 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: the town and like into into Olga's court. I've got 287 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: a bad feeling about this miles where they promptly take 288 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: this boat full of dread and dump it in a 289 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: trench that she had been digging since the day before 290 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: and buries them alive. So she pulls up while they're 291 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: being buried. According to the written records, she quote inquired 292 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: whether they found the honor to their taste as they 293 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: were as they were being like suffocated and soil very saintly. 294 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but we're not done, babe, because we're talking 295 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: about flex essive violence here. So I love flexssive by 296 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: the way, I know. I just I'm just freestyle here. 297 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: This is what I'm coming up with. So then she 298 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: sends a message back to the Drevelans saying, you know what, 299 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: I love this proposal about marrying this guy. I am 300 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: so down for this because keep in mind that they 301 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't have gotten word back quickly enough, right, Like they 302 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: didn't know what I'm swearing, like I'm on your show. 303 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,679 Speaker 1: We can't swear on our shop. Oh yeah, I was 304 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: holding back, so I was gonna ask what it make sense? 305 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:37,360 Speaker 1: But now there was no way they would have known. 306 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: They would have been completely in the dark, they would 307 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: have sent a whole another cadre of like cannon fodder, 308 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: you know, because they were thinking, hey, this is our 309 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: moment we can they're in a weekend position, will make 310 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: her the queen and you know she'll be one of 311 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: our you know, subjects. So she basically, i'd imagine within 312 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: the moment she's even saying like yeah, yeah, let's have 313 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: a boat party, dig the trench. She's probably okay, send 314 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: somebody now and say we love it. And so the 315 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: proposal gets to the dread leans and saying, hey, you 316 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: know what, if it's what you say it is, we 317 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: love it. Um and she she says, but this time, 318 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: I need you to send your most distinguished men, like 319 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: the rulers of all the fiefdoms, like to show, like 320 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: I need to show my people if I'm just gonna 321 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: get marched off to marry that guy that killed my husband, 322 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: that's gonna be a hard sell for my people. So 323 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: please get the finest gentleman and leaders and luminaries to 324 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: come and take me. So then my people it will 325 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: be more palatable and this will be more of a 326 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: peaceful transition. And so they're like, okay, that makes sense. 327 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 1: Let's do that. So the most distinguished men come and 328 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 1: she has her subjects greet them and say, hey, you 329 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: know what, the Queen just wants to let you know 330 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: before she receives you for this lavish feast. We've actually 331 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: prepared bath for everybody. So we just love for you, 332 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 1: like we have these garments. Please just clean yourselves up 333 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: before you, you know, meet with the queen. It would 334 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: be a great honor, and we want to, aren't. I 335 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 1: got a bad feeling about this mile bath was a 336 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: big deal, right, yeah, So these the most distinguished men 337 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: of this rival tribe go to take their bath. Guess what, 338 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: the doors locked behind them and they burned the whole 339 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: place down with them inside. So now she's eliminated all 340 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:32,479 Speaker 1: of their most distinguished governors thinkers in one felt just 341 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: like boom done, knocked it out, And so she's thinking like, 342 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: this is great. So it's not. It's not a flex 343 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: for the sake of flexing. It's a strategic flex, which 344 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: I really appreciate. Yes, um, but you know what, She's 345 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: just not done there yet. So she sends another message, Wait, 346 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: this is all happening at the same time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 347 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: it's in a span of like maybe a couple of 348 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: weeks or something. This is like the scene in Godfather 349 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: when Michael just takes everyone at the same time. She 350 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: has complete control of her environment. She sends another message says, Hey, 351 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: I want you to, quote, prepare great quantities of meat 352 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 1: in the city where you killed my husband, that I 353 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: may weep over his grave and hold a funeral feast 354 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: for him end quote. So then she pulls up to 355 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: the city where he is killed, having to this big party. 356 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: They already think, oh wow, she's cool, she's agreed to it. 357 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: She's coming by herselves. She's like, I guess this is 358 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: like a small advanced team that shows up. They get 359 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 1: there to Egor's tomb, she did actually weep. They do 360 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: have a feast. The Drevelyan sit down and get drunk, 361 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: and then we have a I guess like red Wake 362 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: type situation where her men then go and just slaughter 363 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: every drunken dreve Lean person in there. The written records apparently, 364 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: but this is you know, this is back in the 365 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: ninth century saying about five thousand Drevelans were killed that 366 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: night at that feast at the hands of her men 367 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: because she had basically set the whole thing up to 368 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: just pull up when everyone was very very drunk. Yeah. Um, 369 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: and sadly she's not done or I don't know, maybe 370 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 1: for great for this story, she's not done yet. I'm 371 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: loving every minute of it. And she's like, we're going 372 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: back there. I'm not done with them, you know, and 373 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 1: maybe I killed basically everybody, but she's like, I just 374 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: need to crush them for what they did. So she 375 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: gets there, she lays seeds to this city where her 376 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 1: husband was killed, and it lasts like a year because 377 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: there's just a lack of like there, it's positioned well, 378 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: they just can't penetrate their putting up a good fight, 379 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: and she's like, man, like this is actually this is 380 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 1: taking a while. So she goes to them and says like, hey, 381 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: you know, like why are you just like why do 382 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: you guys keep holding out like we can kind of 383 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 1: like everybody I crushed every other city, but you guys 384 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: are insisting on this, Like why don't you just lay 385 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: your arms down, give me tribute, and like let every 386 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: let's get back to normal. Hey, let's get Drevlyn's working again. Huh, 387 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: let's get this economy back on. Don't just yeah, you're 388 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: crushing them with this siege. Please, So they say, hey, 389 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: look the reason we're like, we would rather submit tribute, 390 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: but the problem is just based on your track record, 391 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: we feel like this is the only way we're gonna live. 392 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: So we would have took the tribute option. But you know, 393 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: at this point, we took a lot of else and 394 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: we didn't expect it. So we're at it of an 395 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: abundance of safety. We're saying, please just give us one moment. 396 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: So she says, okay, look, I don't mean to like 397 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: labor this. I'll just say this. Just give me a 398 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 1: small offering and I get it. You guys, we've been 399 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: it's a siege for a year. You probably have a lot. 400 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: Just have for every household in this city. Give me 401 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,239 Speaker 1: three pigeons and three sparrows. That's all I want. Just 402 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: give me that on six birds per house. Nothing big. 403 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: They're like, oh, fantastic, like really flexes within flexus. She's like, 404 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: just give me some birbs. Just give me those birds 405 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: and I'm out of here and we're good. I get it, 406 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: Like put a bird on it. She's like, I killed 407 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,959 Speaker 1: everybody basically here. She's like, I've killed the man who 408 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: killed my husband, plus countless others. I'm you know, I've 409 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 1: had my fill. Just give me the birds and I'll 410 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: be on my way. And just give me the birds. Yeah, 411 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: they're ecstatic. I remember this part of the story. This 412 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: is epic, this is so good. I'm with Jack. I 413 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: have a bad feeling about this. Yeah. So she's like, yeah, great, 414 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 1: So they bring the birds out there, like, okay, cool, 415 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: we're just gonna take off. Guys, We're gonna take off 416 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: it probably after like we're probably gonna sleep and nightfall. Anyway, 417 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: don't worry about us. We got the birds. Thank you, 418 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,199 Speaker 1: will be on our way. So she's not done. She 419 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: tells her soldiers for every bird, attach a piece of 420 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: sulfur uh to their like foot and a piece of paper. 421 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: And then she said, actually, you know what, set those 422 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 1: pieces on fire and release the birds, because she knew 423 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: instinctively they were all gonna fly back home. So she 424 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 1: said about these little, you know, early fire bombs back 425 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: into the city and burned the mother down. As the 426 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: Primary Chronicle, which is the historical text from back then, 427 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: it says, quote, there was not a house that was 428 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: not consumed, and it was impossible to extinguish the flames 429 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: because all the houses caught fire at once, and then 430 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: she dropped the mic. Ben, how do you even conceive 431 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: of something so a so clever, be so diabolical, ce 432 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: so effective, Like, I just want to know what you think? 433 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: You know you've heard come on way in my boy, 434 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think Biles is the one who 435 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: identified with this the most strongly. I mean that's a 436 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: that's a flex also when you when you think about it, um, 437 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: you know, to your point, Miles, like we have to admit, 438 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: like there is the primary chronicle, but uh, so much 439 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: time has passed? Was really five thousand? Yeah exactly? But 440 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: this actually, this actually happened. I mean, to me, the 441 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: craziest thing is, uh, fighting fire will fire is not 442 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 1: a good term, but uh fighting bird fire bird fire. Guys, 443 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: I'm floundering here, but I mean those are early you know, 444 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: heat seeking fire bombs that she created out of pigeons. 445 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: It's just that there's so she it's so it's such 446 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: a masterfully planned out onion revenge onion where every layer 447 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: somehow makes you cry harder and harder doll of misery. Yeah, 448 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: and I think that's why for me, Like, you know, 449 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: obviously this could be a revenge or whatever. But I 450 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 1: think truly a flex is too. It's just also an 451 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 1: outsized show of force or power or whatever, just because 452 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: you can even And that's what it's like. The other 453 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: phrases just doing the most and olga in this case, yeah, look, 454 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: you might, you might. You could have relaxed a bit 455 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: doing the most here. You didn't have to go with 456 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: the pigeon and have them feel safe only to have 457 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: them come send this thing back. But but the beauty 458 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 1: of this whole thing too is how idiotic was it 459 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: for these people to believe that she was totally chill 460 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: with the fact that they had murdered her husband, and 461 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: that all of this was just some silly broad being 462 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: you know, like, oh, totally malleable to your manly whims 463 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: or whatever, you know what I mean, Like, I think 464 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 1: that's what it is. I mean, you can only imagine 465 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: what misogyny is like. In nine eight and for for 466 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: for for the record, I was saying some silly broad 467 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: I was playing the deadly and I was not, okay, 468 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: just making that you're playing the role of Noel brown Off. Mike. 469 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: This is this is probably one of my favorite weird 470 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: flex stories in terms of the sheer amount of blood 471 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 1: lust and letting that goes into it. I'm surprised this 472 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 1: hasn't been dramatized in like a film. This is so good. 473 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: Obviously there's definitely some red wedding vibes, but this in 474 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 1: and of itself could be a whole movie all into itself. 475 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: I love it so much, definitely like some seriously George r. 476 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: Arm we figured it out, uh, Noel as uh colleague, 477 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 1: get a friend. I do have to point out that 478 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: I feel like, at least part of why you're so 479 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: pro this flex story is because of your abiding extreme 480 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 1: hatred of birds. So like I saw your eyes light 481 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: up when you learned that the birds were catching on fire. 482 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: Now weird moment. Now that's not entirely fair, because in 483 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: this story the birds are kind of the good guys. 484 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: I I was actually was like, yeah, go birds, burn 485 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: those misogynist douchebags alive in their homes. But also, to 486 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: be fair, there were probably some women and children that 487 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: got totally incinerated as mostly mostly yeah, because all the 488 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: able bodied men were the ones that have been sent out, 489 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: so they came home to uh an inferno. Probably they 490 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: probably hadn't even gotten back yet, and they came home 491 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: to like their entire world just in ashes, you know, 492 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: doing the most. No you've got You've got some flexes 493 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: as well, right yeah, mine are like way more innocuous, 494 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: which I think we definitely need. Right now, Do you 495 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: guys remember that Harvey Dangerous song Flagpole Sit Up? Yeah? Yeah, 496 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: I I mainly associated now as being the theme for 497 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,479 Speaker 1: a peep Show, which is one of my favorite British 498 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: comedy series of all time. It's just like super Hands 499 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,239 Speaker 1: is one of my favorite characters ever, and it's just 500 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: it holds up so well and it's infinitely rewatchable. And 501 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: if you guys haven't seen it listeners, I highly recommend 502 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: you check it out. Um. But yeah, flagpole Sitter by 503 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: Harvey danger is referring to a historical phenomenon known surprise 504 00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: surprise as flagpole sitting. So I think people when they 505 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: think of the twenties, they think of you know, prohibition 506 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: and bootlegging and flappers and speakeasies and all that stuff. 507 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: But um, there was a really odd kind of spectator 508 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: sport I guess you could call it that really uh 509 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: caught the public's imagination by storm Um in the nineteen twenties, 510 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: and that was something called flagpole sitting, and it's in 511 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: a burst of creativity. Has Ben would say exactly what 512 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: it sounds like someone climbs up on top of a pole, 513 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: a flagpole or otherwise could be an antennae, I guess, 514 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: but a flagpole is a little more sturdy and doesn't 515 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: taper quite as much, so that would make the most sense. 516 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: Um And builds or a seats kind of a very 517 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: small platform with a chair on top of the flagpole 518 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: and then shimmy's their way up and sits on the flagpole. Uh. 519 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 1: It started in in y'all's neck of the woods in 520 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: Hollywood in January of nineteen twenty four. A gentleman by 521 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: the name of Alvin ship Wreck Kelly was employed by 522 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 1: a local movie theater to help advertise for a movie 523 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: premiere and they paid him. He was a stuntman um 524 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: And or a daredevil I guess you'd call him, and 525 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: they paid him to sit on top of this flagpole, uh, 526 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: in order to kind of draw crowds because it was 527 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: gonna be kind of an oddity. People would be like, 528 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: what the hell is going on with this guy on 529 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: this flagpole. Let's check it out. Oh a movie. So 530 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: I guess that's the way that that was thought of 531 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: by the you know, the promoters or whatever. Kelly was 532 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: from New York. He got his name because he claimed, 533 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: uh pretty spuriously by most accounts, to have been a 534 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: survivor of the Titanic. Um that's where, that's where, that's 535 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: where he got shipwrecked from. So he's already a little 536 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: bit of a P. T. Barnum kind of huckster type 537 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: fellow um, but he definitely has some skills, and he 538 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: starts this kind of fad that really takes the entire 539 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: country by storm. For this this publicity stunt. He sit 540 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: up there for thirteen hours and thirteen minutes, and the 541 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: newspapers pick it up and kind of start spreading the word, 542 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: and he genuinely sets off kind of a national craze, 543 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: and other people start doing it, and even kids start 544 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,479 Speaker 1: daring their you know, schoolyard buddies, like see how long 545 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: you can sit up on this flagpole. Obviously there's different light, 546 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: it's a it's a range of flexes in terms of 547 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: how high the poll is. You know, there would be 548 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: like an amateur version of it um. There were even 549 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: people that would practice, like on trees in their backyard, 550 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: but it really became a thing. There was somebody, uh 551 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: named Bobby Mack who was from l A who sat 552 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: up on a flagpole for three weeks, and then someone 553 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: and Joe holding Powers sat up there for sixteen days 554 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: in Chicago in I feel like this is your way 555 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 1: of rubbing our face and how stupid our city is 556 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: by being like it seems like a vary l a 557 00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: specific weird flex. Hey, you guys eat dirt. It's pretty cool, 558 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: you know it's it's it's where dreams are made and 559 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: also crushed, as we will get to at the end 560 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: of the story, which is a little bit of a bummer, 561 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: but not nearly as much of a bummer as your 562 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: story made. Also, dreams are key stirred on the top 563 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: of a flagpole. Also true. Also, yeah, it's it's sort 564 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: of the early form of podcast. But yeah, right, so 565 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: I'll go on. But where where where are you guys 566 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: at with this? How do you think this story is 567 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: going to progress? Do you think it just fizzles? Is 568 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: it going to be? Like I mean, it sounds like 569 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: something so easy that like if you start this thing 570 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: of like, okay, I can do that, Like you're basically 571 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: how long can you sit? Because once you eliminate like 572 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: the height aspect, it's like how long are you willing 573 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: to like go to the bathroom on yourself? A bunch 574 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: in a chair? Wait? Is it a chair? Though? Are 575 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: you sitting on on the ball? Like isn't the end 576 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: of a flagpole just like a rounded object? That's what 577 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: I'm trying to imagine. They put a little seat on it, right, 578 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: they put a little seat on it, like a circus 579 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: platform kind of, you know. So and this this this 580 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: this guy's shipwreck Kelly Um. He did this stunt in 581 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: New York as well. And the reason that it got 582 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: it became like a really serious source of income. Form 583 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: he was making at one point between a hundred and 584 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,720 Speaker 1: five hundred dollars a day in nineteen twenties money, which 585 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:27,959 Speaker 1: is serious, serious it was it was because advertisers would 586 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: pay him that, or promoters would pay him that, because 587 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: the people would uh set up viewing parties and viewing 588 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: areas on like high rises and rooftops where you'd pay 589 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: a nickel to sit around and watch this guy sitting around. Um, 590 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: but he would uh that you know, he you might 591 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: see him, you know, reading the newspaper. There's a really 592 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,879 Speaker 1: there's a bunch of really great iconic photographs of him 593 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: that remind me a lot of those images of you know, 594 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: workmen building the Empire State Building sitting on those bars, 595 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: like with their lunch pails and stuff. Yet, yes, exactly 596 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: he had patrons um but he Uh. Eventually the Great 597 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: Depression hit and people didn't have disposable incomes anymore to 598 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,879 Speaker 1: drop Nichols for for giggles, to watch this guy sitting 599 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: around shaving on this platform. And he ended up like 600 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: a lot of people that we talked about on the 601 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: show that have a very niche kind of skill, penniless 602 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: and alone, um and and and ultimately died of a 603 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: heart attack. And they found under his arm, uh in 604 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 1: the place where he died a scrapbook of all of 605 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,919 Speaker 1: the newspaper clippings of his his time in the as 606 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 1: a as the champion flagpole Sitter. I take issue with 607 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: the idea that my story was more of a bummer 608 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: than hearing about this guy in his last days clutching 609 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: the memories of his professional career, sitting down. Yeah, I'm 610 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: gonna call it I'm gonna call I'm gonna say, Olga 611 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: of Kiev, Uh doing the most coming, Uh sue to 612 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:04,720 Speaker 1: HBO and uh flagpole sitting coming soon to Pixar's pix 613 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: are formula heartbreak. Right there, I was just looking. I 614 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: was like, I'm just as you said this. All I'm 615 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: thinking of, like, how do they go to the bathroom? 616 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 1: How did they go to the bathroom? How do they right? 617 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: And then I'm like reading that he had like a tube. 618 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 1: He would just turn away from the crowd and you're 619 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: innate down a little tube into a bucket down at 620 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: the pace of the pool. We've all been there, you know. 621 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: I was thinking that this was so beneath us, that like, 622 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: this is how people were entertained back in the day. 623 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: But this is basically what David Blaine did for a 624 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: couple like that. There were he sat up in a 625 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 1: I think he was like in a glass cube for 626 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: a while and people were just like, wow, he's really there. 627 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,360 Speaker 1: He's not going anywhere, and at one point he was 628 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: upside down. That's definitely a flex. It's weird too, because 629 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: you have to wonder what would happen if someone did 630 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 1: that now, like if someone tested at Pennsylvania and they 631 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: were like, I'm going to protest by sitting on the 632 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 1: top of this flag for a for a while. And 633 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: they'll be like, oh, what are what are you doing? 634 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 1: They're like, I'm just gonna sit there if you do. 635 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: You guys have any nickels or you know, ad right, advice. 636 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 1: That's funny that you say that, Ben. It actually has 637 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: made somewhat of a comeback in protests. There was a 638 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:32,720 Speaker 1: pole sitting protest associated with the Dakota Access Pipeline back 639 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: in uh. Um, so it is sort of a thing 640 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 1: that people still do as kind of a sit in 641 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,720 Speaker 1: or sort of like hey, look at me. It definitely 642 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: like raises you up and just you know, literally for 643 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,800 Speaker 1: people to see so they can see you know whatever, 644 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: you're your cause look at me. And I disagree with 645 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: this thing that is happening. Wod love it because I'm 646 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 1: sure you look really tall on a flagpole as I 647 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: think I'll have my dinner on my to go to 648 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,240 Speaker 1: access pipeline for the record, the worst death ever. Uh, 649 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 1: that's like I'm remembering. Uh nickels for giggles is what 650 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,720 Speaker 1: I wrote down for that windoll. That's pretty stuck with me. Also, 651 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: what did you say? It was like a hundred hundred 652 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: five dollars hundering what per day he was making up? Yeah, 653 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 1: up to which, which which also makes me kind of 654 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,720 Speaker 1: like annoyed that he clearly piste all that away because 655 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 1: that's serious coin and for him to have died penny 656 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: less means he was probably not super smart with his money. Roum. 657 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: So you know, just putting that out that was like 658 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 1: six thousand, five hundred dollars a day. Yeah, I don't 659 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,320 Speaker 1: know what he did with it, crushing it? I know, right? What? What? 660 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,879 Speaker 1: What's also? What were you doing with that cash during 661 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 1: the depression? Buying hard rock candy? I think just rock 662 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:59,280 Speaker 1: candy and cans of beans and bindle stakes. I believe 663 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: that's not funny for me to make that joke as 664 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 1: we're heading into another depression, will but presumably, But I 665 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 1: mean it didn't hit till twenty nine, so he was 666 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 1: living fast in the twenties. On his six grand a day. 667 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 1: He had a gilded flagpole. And how weird is it 668 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,280 Speaker 1: that we might be calling that when the first Great 669 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 1: Depression a little two topical for a history ship and 670 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: the new flagpole sitters because we sit professionally. Yeah, I 671 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,760 Speaker 1: was just gonna say that his top sponsors were actually 672 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 1: Stamps dot Com and Blue Apron Casper mattresses, Casper, think 673 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: about it, there are flags on the stamps guys, right, Yeah, 674 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: that would be a really good publicity son first, Casper, 675 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 1: just like put a mattress on top of a flagpole 676 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: and just lay on that thing, you know, and definitely 677 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 1: like pole layer. Once again, time has gotten away from us. Uh. 678 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 1: This is going to be the first part of a 679 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 1: two part episode. Uh, Casey, how how how's it going 680 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,279 Speaker 1: so far? Would you say? I would say, you know, 681 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 1: the halftime report, Um, people are coming with some really 682 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: strong flexes. I'm just interested to see what's gonna come 683 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: up in the second half. We gotta we got a 684 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 1: really good match here. I love the I love the 685 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: announcer vibe. All right. Well, uh, first off, anytime, any 686 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: time that we can impress you, then I know we're 687 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: on the right track. I'd like to go ahead and 688 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: let's let's make this our outro for the first episode. 689 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 1: We'll do the usual. Thanks as always to you, Casey Packham, 690 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: Thanks of course to uh my co host Noel Brown. 691 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: Thanks of course to Jack O'Brien, Miles great daily Zeitgeist. 692 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 1: Let's see you know who we usually think this part 693 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 1: of the episode, casey, that is true. Let's see we 694 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 1: got Christopher Hascious here in spirit. Uh, he's Jeff Cote. 695 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 1: We've got uh, let's see who am I leaving out? 696 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 1: Oh god, this is too terrible. Wait wait, hold on, 697 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 1: gave Luizier, our our research associate. Uh, we got Jonathan Strickling, 698 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 1: the quister who will probably be crashing our zoom party 699 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: pretty soon, who also wanted leaving out. Then well we 700 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,279 Speaker 1: got we got Alex Williams, who composed the theme song 701 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 1: that is tickling your ear dums right now, nailed it 702 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 1: And of course ridiculous historians thanks to you. Uh. Please 703 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,960 Speaker 1: let us know some of your favorite weird historical flexes. 704 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,839 Speaker 1: You can find us on Facebook, you can find us 705 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 1: on Twitter, you can find us on Instagram. Uh, and 706 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 1: tune in for the next episode because it only gets 707 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 1: more ridiculous. 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