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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale Lalli. He is the Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson and it is our number two here in the Drive.

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Speaker 1: And we haven't done any.

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Speaker 2: Our last hour before the end of the season, our.

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Speaker 1: Last hour before the end of the season, and our

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Speaker 1: last fantasy football lineup of the twenty twenty three seasons.

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Speaker 2: But that we've been pretty successful.

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Speaker 1: We've done.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, we've done.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Let's put together a DFS lineup here, and it

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Speaker 1: is a it's a single game captain's chair.

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Speaker 2: Okay. Is that the best way to do it? I

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Speaker 2: guess yeah, that's cool.

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Speaker 1: These are we haven't had as much success with these

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Speaker 1: as we've had.

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Speaker 2: With the captain's share. Thing throws me off a little. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and that's a big facet of it. So let's go

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Speaker 2: through it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So the captains, So you get one and a

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Speaker 1: half times the points for the captain's chair, but it's

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Speaker 1: also one and a half times more expensive.

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to wrap my head around the best

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Speaker 2: strategy to do that. Yeah, you want like a kicker,

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Speaker 2: that's boring. Do you want a long shot that hits

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Speaker 2: until you can stack you Well, so you're just sticking

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Speaker 2: homes there and be quiet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, McCaffrey is eighteen thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: I bet he scores in this game. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 2: that so.

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Speaker 1: Prop Yeah right. Patrick Mahomes is fifteen nine hundred, fifteen thousand, nine.

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Speaker 2: Hundred, Travis caps shared cost.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Travis Kelcey is fifteen thousand, three hundred. San Francisco's

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Speaker 1: twentieth against opposing tight end.

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Speaker 2: Great, but it's ye. Kelsey's very attractive.

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Speaker 1: Rock Purty is fifteen thousand, Deebo Samuel thirteen to eight,

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Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuk thirteen to two, Isaiah Pacheco is twelve thousand,

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Speaker 1: Okay Rashi Rice eleven four, George Kittle nine to six.

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Speaker 1: But Kansas City is fourth against opposing tight ends.

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Speaker 2: Their linebacker safety.

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Speaker 1: Is Kittle's also banged up?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Is there something wrong with them?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's questionable for he's gonna play, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's been limited all week long in practice. Then you

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Speaker 1: got Sam, Darnold, Ble and Gabbert. You get all the quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Jake Moody is seventy eight hundred, Harrison Butker is seventy

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Speaker 1: five hundred. Why is Harrison Butker cheaper than Moody?

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Speaker 2: I guess because the Diners are favored to win. But

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Speaker 2: I would much rather bet. I would much rather have

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Speaker 2: Butker Moody, I don't think he's gonna be in this ruck.

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Speaker 1: I don't trust him.

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Speaker 2: The biggest game going rookie.

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Speaker 1: The forty nine Ers defense is sixty six hundred in

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Speaker 1: the captain's chair. Juwan Jennings is six thousand. The Chiefs

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Speaker 1: defense is fifty one hundred. Then you've got Marquez Valdez

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Speaker 1: Scantling at forty five hundred, Elijah Mitchell at forty two hundred,

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Speaker 1: Justin Watson at thirty six hundred, Sky Moore who's been

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Speaker 1: activated for this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's interesting.

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Speaker 1: He is three thousand. Noah Gray is twenty seven hundred.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go much farther.

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Speaker 2: Down now, but none of these guys will get the

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Speaker 2: captain's chair. Yeah. So, deebo a Uk situations interesting to me.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not even saying I want to do tries

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Speaker 2: the rule of thumb, which is when they play zone

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Speaker 2: and this makes Purdy's life a lot easier. I see zone,

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Speaker 2: I go to Diva and I see man, I go

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Speaker 2: to Ayuk. Well, the Chiefs are one of the heavier

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Speaker 2: man teams in the league, and Sneed's a really good

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Speaker 2: corner that likely will be on Ayuk. But Spags has

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Speaker 2: two weeks to mess with this stuff, and I don't

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Speaker 2: think he's gonna play traditional Chiefs defense, which there isn't

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Speaker 2: a traditional defense against a young quarterback. So do we

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Speaker 2: avoid those guys altogether? I know that, you know, right,

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Speaker 2: I know, so that kind of also kind of brought

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Speaker 2: me to Kittle. But if he's also fighting something, I

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Speaker 2: didn't know that part or love that at that aspect

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Speaker 2: of it. What do you think in captain's chairwise.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a look at the regular prices first and see, okay,

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Speaker 1: what we're gonna need. Okay, so for regular prices, McCaffrey's

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Speaker 1: twelve thousand, I get it. I'd like to have him

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Speaker 2: You almost feel like if you don't, you're gonna get Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah's twenty six point four points a game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the that's the problem at eighteen thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: See, Kelsey's the other one I kind of want in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so we do that. Kelsey's ten to two

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Speaker 1: If you plug him in Kelsey, then the.

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Speaker 2: Niners aren't great verse tight ads, right, they're not. No,

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Speaker 2: here's one strategy that doesn't run by you. What about

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Speaker 2: Noah Gray? Okay, because we're gonna need a cheap guy.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna need a cheap guy, you know, Like.

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Speaker 1: Although the Harrison Butker is a kicker is five thousand, I.

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Speaker 2: Was also thinking a kicker, and I prefer Butker over Moody.

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Speaker 1: But maybe you put him into captain's chair again. But

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Speaker 1: he's gonna score.

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Speaker 2: He's a puzzle piece.

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Speaker 1: He's going to score points.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm fine with it. I want some of

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Speaker 1: Let's see how that looks with with Butker, and I

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Speaker 1: imagine a lot of people do. Because that's seventy five hundred.

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Speaker 1: Then that leaves us with we get Butcker, McCaffrey Kelsey.

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Speaker 1: That leaves us with a sixty seven hundred to spend

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Speaker 1: on average, almost sixty eight hundred the rest of the way,

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Speaker 1: So we can afford one more big ticket or two

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Speaker 1: big tickets. We can go with Mahomes.

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Speaker 2: What if we put Gray in okay, because then those

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Speaker 2: tickets get bigger.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's only eighteen hundred. Okay, all right, now we

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Speaker 1: can average ninety two hundred.

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Speaker 2: What's Mahomes cost?

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Speaker 1: He is ten six? Do you plug that in?

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Speaker 2: We don't have a captains chady though, right?

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Speaker 1: Or do you put put in there that's with Butcker

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Speaker 2: Then yeah, we need to go big, big for these

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Speaker 1: So if we go with Mahomes and we have seventy

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Speaker 1: nine hundred, that would get us Rashi Rice.

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Speaker 2: I think he's gonn get a lot of targets.

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Speaker 1: We would need another one hundred dollars to get Pacheco.

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Speaker 2: Who would you prefer?

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Speaker 2: Chiefs are gonna win. Thereby saying that would give.

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Speaker 1: Us four chiefs pass catchers or three Chiefs pass catchers.

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Speaker 2: I don't let them expect a ton of McCaffrey.

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Speaker 1: I'm just looking at this. What other way we could

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Speaker 2: We could go with one of the defense, and the

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Speaker 2: defenses attract you. Mahomes doesn't throw picks or takes sacks.

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Speaker 2: He does not know, and he'll run and he'll run

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Speaker 2: Chiefs d seems more logical. But we're really chief heavy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we are extremely Chiefs heavy.

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Speaker 2: And all Chiefs and the McCaffrey, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the I mean the forty nine ers offense is

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Speaker 1: number one against or allowing the fewest points to opposing defense.

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Speaker 2: let's avoid the defenses, maybe, especially if we have Rice

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Speaker 1: Let me see something if we take buttkerund.

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Speaker 2: I said, what if we manipulate the captain's chair a little.

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Speaker 1: And we go with who else? Do I like down here?

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Speaker 1: That's cheap, cheap, cheap, nobody.

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Speaker 2: Like any of them. If we're kind of going to

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Speaker 2: avoid Debo and ayuk things right, and you don't want

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Speaker 2: any of the other case, he.

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Speaker 1: Received, no, a gray in the captain's chair, then you

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Speaker 1: can afford all then you can afford all of them.

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Speaker 1: But he's got to catch a couple of passes.

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Speaker 2: He does. I mean, I think he'll be out there.

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Speaker 2: They've been living in twelve and thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Yea. So let's see if No. A. Gray is our captain?

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Speaker 1: Does that do for us? Uh?

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Speaker 2: No A.

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Speaker 1: Gray is twenty seven hundred in the captain's chair. Now

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Speaker 1: we can average seventy two. We have fourteen to five

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Speaker 1: for our final two spots.

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Speaker 2: Did you keep Butler in the lineup or not?

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Speaker 1: I did not?

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Speaker 2: Okay, we don't need to. What about Rice and Pacheco?

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Speaker 2: That would get us or one of the two.

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Speaker 1: Pachecko and that would get us.

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Speaker 2: George Kittle, I don't know how much I can you're

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Speaker 2: the Kittle injury.

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Speaker 1: The more I talk through it, I mean he's kind

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Speaker 2: I mean, was he not going to run routes? I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think he's got a chance to do well. How

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Speaker 2: are the Chiefs against tight ends? They're fourth, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: They're pretty good. They're also fourth against wide receivers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're pretty good. Teams are good. I

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Speaker 2: mean there's a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: That well, we don't have my homes in there, so

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Speaker 1: we gotta put I gotta have my homes. Then we

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Speaker 1: have sixty five hundred that would get us kittle.

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Speaker 2: So that Ray and the captains.

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Speaker 1: That takes let's take my or the checko out of there,

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Speaker 1: then that changes what we can do here in terms

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Speaker 1: that we could go.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm a little confused, Grace.

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Speaker 1: Captain Grey is the captain share, We've got McCaffrey, Kelsey Malmes,

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Speaker 1: and that leaves us two more spots, two more spots.

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Speaker 1: We have fourteen to five to spend.

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Speaker 2: Okay, in a perfect world, who would you add? Would

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Speaker 2: you add Party?

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Speaker 1: I mean, Party's going to get you the most points,

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Speaker 1: but he's also ten thousand dollars, So if you do that,

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Speaker 1: then you only have forty five hundred spend as a kicker.

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Speaker 1: Forty five hundred would would be? Would be one of

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Speaker 1: the defenses? Or Juwan Jennings does use check interest you

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Speaker 1: at all? On the super They haven't used him very much.

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Speaker 2: They haven't. I'm just thinking, guys, I mean he'll be

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Speaker 2: on the field.

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Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel's ninety two hundred. You think of if they're

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Speaker 1: going to play a lot of man Ayuk is eighty

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Speaker 1: eight hundred.

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Speaker 2: Kind of like Party.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So if we go Party and a D, we

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Speaker 1: got both quarterbacks. And then we go with the D

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Speaker 1: that we got forty five. So you get the forty

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Speaker 1: nine Ers defense or the Chiefs defense.

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Speaker 2: They the same price.

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Speaker 1: I know there's there's one thousand dollars difference. I prefer

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Speaker 1: the cheaper, but we can easily afford either one of them.

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Speaker 1: If we go with the Chiefs, we still have eleven

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Speaker 2: So what if we got Gray out of the captain's chair.

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Speaker 2: Let somebody, let's look at the defense.

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Speaker 2: What if we put Butker in the captain's chair again,

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Speaker 1: Then we got to get rid of like Kelsey or McCaffrey.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, yeah, okay, so Gray's that cheap then yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: We can get the Chiefs defense at fifty one in

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Speaker 1: Then that gets us no agree, we're sky Moore.

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Speaker 2: Sky Moore scares me. I do think, I act if

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Speaker 1: Him, so that would get us. That only leaves us

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Speaker 2: I'm cool with it. I mean, I don't know you're

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Speaker 2: ever on these one game captain's chairs, are you ever?

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Speaker 1: If you're gonna play the defense, you need them to score.

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Speaker 1: Well, it could be a special team saying no, of course,

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Speaker 2: Party's got a better chance to pick six than the

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Speaker 2: homes if we avoided defenses, put Gray back in there. Okay,

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Speaker 2: does that get us a real starter like U p

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Speaker 1: At least we could get the forty nine ers defense

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Speaker 1: put Butker, well, we can't. We can't even afford Butker

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Speaker 2: But if you're all party and put Butker in the

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Speaker 2: captain's chair, okay, and take one of his receivers instead?

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Speaker 1: Which one do you want though?

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Speaker 2: Ir Okay, what if we pulled Deebo and put I

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Speaker 2: could get us Ray Ray McCloud. All right, let's pull

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Speaker 2: Deebo out and put Kittle on his spot.

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Speaker 2: This is messy?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well they don't make it any Yeah, that would

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Speaker 1: leave us thirty three hundred, and we could afford Marquez,

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Speaker 1: Valdez Scantling, Elijah Mitchell, Justin Watson, sky Moore, Noah Gray.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Valdels Scanting is good at all. But

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Speaker 2: I bet they throw him a ball or two.

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Speaker 2: Probably not, but if he does, we're happy. I mean

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Speaker 2: i'd rather. I think he's got a better chance for

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah he may. Yeah. No is going to catch

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Speaker 2: I mean, I like no A Gray for the buck,

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Speaker 1: Valda Scantling has made a couple of plays.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, you know they're gonna take a shot to him.

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Speaker 1: That would leave us with just three hundred dollars. That's

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Speaker 1: with Butker is in the Captain's chair, McCaffrey, Kelsey, Kittle, Mahomes,

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Speaker 2: I haven't loved any of it, but I'm cool with it.

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Speaker 1: If we take Kelsey out, I kind.

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Speaker 1: We take Kelsey out, actually we can get party in

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Speaker 1: there instead of now we don't we want Kelsey?

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Speaker 2: What am I saying?

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Speaker 1: I want Kittles want it? Okay, if we take Kittle out,

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Speaker 2: Would but you can Kittle and Valdez Scantling turn into

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Speaker 2: Rice and Gray.

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Speaker 1: Kittle and Valdez Scantling. I don't believe. Well, maybe let's

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Speaker 2: You said Rice and Gray or Checko and Gray and Gray. Yes,

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Speaker 2: which twosome would you prefer?

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Speaker 1: So that would get us? That would be Butker, McCaffrey, Kelsey, Rice,

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Speaker 1: Mahomes Gray. It's an entire other than McCaffrey. It's the

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Speaker 1: we still have three hundred left over get everything we

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Speaker 2: So yeah, in these builds that I don't think are leftovers?

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Speaker 2: Is there's nothing.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna have money left over? Yeah, you're not going

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Speaker 2: Would you rather have Kittle in Valvedez Scantling or Rice

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Speaker 1: Get on? I think they have Rice and Gray.

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Speaker 2: I do too. I do too. I think Gray's and

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Speaker 2: it catch two or three balls.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Rice may catch seven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So I guess that's it, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, I'm an andner. So we got Harrison Butker in

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Speaker 1: the captain's chair at least get extra points. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you got Christian McCaffrey and the flex, Travis Kelcey Rahee, Rice,

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Speaker 2: I think that's our final answer with all the options

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Speaker 1: All right, No, it's not.

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Speaker 2: I mean, these are Super Bowl teams. There are stars everywhere,

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Speaker 2: two great tight ends, blah blah blah. Yeah, but man,

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Speaker 1: We get other than no A. Gray. We get guys

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but are also being everyone else's line up. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: If no A Gray scores, that's gold, We're gold. Or

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Speaker 2: if it turns into a field goal game and Butcker

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Speaker 1: That a really good shape.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it could be Okay, we'll see how I go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in terms of some of the props anything that

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Speaker 2: This, I haven't looked at any of them, to be honest.

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Speaker 1: McCaffrey did to score a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that's almost even odds, right, it's pretty it's

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Speaker 2: got to be pretty close. I mean, score a touchdown

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Speaker 2: every game he's in. It's unbelievable. I bet Kelsey to

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Speaker 2: score a touchdowns pretty close to that. I mean it's less,

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Speaker 2: but you know, I'm sure no one will be shocked.

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Speaker 2: But those nine A pass catchers, I just don't know

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Speaker 2: this week gets magnified with great defensive coordinator in two

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you just don't know where the ball is going

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Speaker 1: The other thing to me, like mahomes win the MVP,

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Speaker 2: It is. I tell you my two favorites. No, oh,

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Speaker 2: pull it up takes a second. I feel like, if

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Speaker 2: get better odds on Mahomes to win the MVP than

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Speaker 2: Chief's money line. Yeah, you might as well just vote.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like it's a one hundred percent,

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Speaker 2: he's going to win, you know, the the MVP. If

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Speaker 2: of the ball. I'm trying to just pulling up the odds.

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Speaker 2: But my two favorite long shots are here we go here,

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Speaker 2: And my logic is the Chris Jones effort can be

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Speaker 2: an issue. It sure shouldn't be in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that it will be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's trying to be and it pays. I

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Speaker 2: put three bucks on it to win three hundred and three.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it pays it's plus ten thousand for Chris

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Speaker 2: most talented players on the field against a suspect interior

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, but to become the highest paid defensive

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Speaker 2: you're gonna get Chris Jones' best game. Maybe he gets

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Speaker 2: I love that, And the same is basically true for Bosa.

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Speaker 2: And the problem with my Jones and Bosa thing is

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Speaker 2: holding becomes legal in the I mean that's these are

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Speaker 1: So Mahomes is plus one twenty five. I'm looking here

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Speaker 2: Is better than just betting on the Chiefs, right, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think that's a solid bet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can get Party at plus two thirty five,

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Speaker 1: McCaffrey at plus four fifty.

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Speaker 2: I don't know the Party's gonna win it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know that he is either. If somebody

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Speaker 2: He's gonna have a lot of eyes on him. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you don't give it to Mahomes,

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Speaker 2: but you know how the game's gonna go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right.

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Speaker 2: I like my Jones and Bos those super long shots.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna pick the Chiefs to win, you know.

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Speaker 1: Right, like I would. You could probably parlay Mahomes win

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Speaker 2: a pretty solid bet to exactly exactly some of the

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Speaker 2: things I do for Super Bowl props or things like

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Speaker 2: like we just talked about. No, Gray's gonna be on

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Speaker 2: the field a lot. Use TeX's gonna be on the

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Speaker 2: field a lot. And I don't even know what their

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Speaker 2: numbers are, but if if they're over under catches is

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Speaker 2: like one and a half, you know they're gonna be

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Speaker 2: really low.

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Speaker 1: No, that's why I mentioned the Elijah Mitchells. It's over

446
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Speaker 1: four and a half rushing yards. Yeah, that's a good

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Speaker 1: one minus one fifteen.

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Speaker 2: And if a Caffrey pulls a hamstring for one series,

449
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Speaker 2: you know he carries them.

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Speaker 1: All seven straight times and they put you know, they

451
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Speaker 1: put Mitchell.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's gonna be He's gonna get in

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Speaker 2: the game. I mean even if McCaffrey's healthy. I would

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Speaker 2: think Mitchell plays ten snaps. Yeah, that might be two carries.

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Speaker 1: But carries should get you more than five yards. Yeah yeah,

456
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Speaker 1: or should get you at least five yards, So I

457
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Speaker 1: mean you could parlay.

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Speaker 2: Those are the kind of things I look at a lot.

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Speaker 2: If you low number, just need to catch, you know,

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Speaker 2: like use Teck is going to be out there if

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Speaker 2: it's over under catches is a half or whatever.

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Speaker 1: So if you went with a Mahomes parlay with Elijah.

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Speaker 2: Mitchell, Okay, I think that pays, it won't let me

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Speaker 2: do it here.

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Speaker 1: Okay, those picks cannot be parlay. Well, I mean that

466
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Speaker 1: would be a good one though.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but things along those lines.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's the way I would go.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, but I do like instead of betting Chief's

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Speaker 2: money line, just bet Mahomes m v P. Yeahs about it,

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Speaker 2: But chances are you're not. Yeah, what's the chance of

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Speaker 2: him not winning MVP?

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Speaker 1: If they win, it's probably gonna win MVP because he's

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Speaker 1: probably have a big part of it. Yeah, unless the

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Speaker 1: checko goes off for two hundred yards.

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Speaker 2: I mean still be rare. Did not give it to him?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Anyways, let's get to a break. He is the

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lollie. You're listening to the drive

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Speaker 1: here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more

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Speaker 1: right after this. Welcome back. I am Dale Lolli. He

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Speaker 1: is the Matt Williamson. And we're going to switch to

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Speaker 1: gears up here a little bit and not just talk

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Speaker 1: super Bowl here. But we've been going over a different

484
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Speaker 1: position group that is headed for free all week long,

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Speaker 1: and today I thought we'd take a look at those

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks and some of these market values on these guys,

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Speaker 1: which might tell you.

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Speaker 2: Give me yeah, this could be quite the conversation.

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Speaker 1: I might tell you why the Steelers might not be

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Speaker 1: in the market for one of these.

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Speaker 2: That's part of it.

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Speaker 1: Everybody talked talked about Kirk Cousins. So I'm looking here

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Speaker 1: at spot track. The market value on Kirk Cousins is

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Speaker 1: thirty nine point three million.

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Speaker 2: Dollars, probably guaranteed, fully guarante.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna want fully guaranteed, because that's what he's gotten

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Speaker 1: on his last three contracts.

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Speaker 2: I mean yeah, because they franchise and franchise and franchise them,

499
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Speaker 2: all of which was guaranteed back in his Washington days.

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Speaker 2: Got kind of used to it. Yeah, and then I

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Speaker 2: mean the best deal I think you'll get on Cousin,

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Speaker 2: the best deal seventy five guaranteed over two. Are you

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Speaker 2: willing to do that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Coming off an injury at his age, I mean he

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Speaker 2: could decline rapidly this year.

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Speaker 1: He might not. He might not be able to play

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Speaker 1: this year.

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Speaker 2: You don't know, real good chance he's not ready for

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Speaker 2: an opening day, right, and let alone all the mini

511
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Speaker 2: camps and stuff where he'd be learning the new offense

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Speaker 2: and receivers. Yeah, they'd be better with him, But that's

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Speaker 2: a massive commitment financial.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't do anything else if you do that,

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Speaker 1: and you probably you're gonna have to cut a bunch.

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Speaker 2: Of guys and you're gonna hit it.

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Speaker 1: I have to hit un ther draft and restructure.

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Speaker 2: It's a different path.

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Speaker 1: People are gonna mention Ryan Tanneyhill a lot because of

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Speaker 1: the Arthur Smith. I would you be interested in Ryan

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Speaker 1: Tannehill at four point nine million? That's what spot track is.

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Speaker 2: I thought he was quite bad this year. I did too,

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Speaker 2: and I also think there were injuries involved.

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Speaker 1: He threw for sixteen hundred yards with four touchdown passes.

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Speaker 1: Seven interceptions and he fumbled four times and that was

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Speaker 1: in four hundred and forty five snaps. So basically he

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Speaker 1: was giving you a turnover worthy play once every thirty

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Speaker 1: five or so snaps.

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Speaker 2: His stats and his tape was bad. I do know

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Speaker 2: there were injuries of play. He was behind the worst

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Speaker 2: offensive line in the league with bad weapons. I would

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Speaker 2: never look at him to say, oh, problem solved. Yeah,

533
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Speaker 2: but if he's coach on the field mentor to Picket

534
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Speaker 2: knows the system.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know that they want a mentor. They

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Speaker 1: want somebody who's going to push it right.

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Speaker 2: And by that I mean maybe even as your third guy.

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Speaker 2: You know, like, yeah, if it's him, Rudolph and Picket,

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Speaker 2: that it's Harry because they all need snaps. If it's

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Speaker 2: just Tannehill and Picket, you better be pretty confident that

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Speaker 2: it was just injuries. You know that he can be

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Speaker 2: back to at least being as good as like Flaco

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Speaker 2: last year, you know what I mean, like at least

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Speaker 2: being a comparable dude. So I lean towards no, but

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Speaker 2: I think it'd be an interesting discussion with more information

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Speaker 2: on them.

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Speaker 1: The market value on Tyrod Taylor is three point three million.

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Speaker 2: These are cheap. I mean that's why. I mean, these

549
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Speaker 2: guys are older.

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Speaker 1: Saying two years, six point seven to five million.

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Speaker 2: He's a quality individual, tough.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize he's gonna be thirty old.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's old. I mean that's why you're getting

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Speaker 2: him at a deal. I mean, so his days of

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Speaker 2: even being a number two aren't much longer.

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Speaker 1: But he had seven turnout. He had three interceptions and

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Speaker 1: four fumbles in three hundred and ten snaps. I guess

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Speaker 1: that's what you're kind of getting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's why they're four million a year.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you could do bad in both those guys

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Speaker 2: for sure. Jameis Winston, I'm still a fan, but I

562
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Speaker 2: don't think he fits here at all.

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Speaker 1: One year, two point seven five million.

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Speaker 2: I think that's an unbelievable bargain. Somebody should give him that.

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Speaker 2: But somebody that can overcome interceptions more than the Steelers.

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Speaker 1: Again, he had he played seventy five snaps last year.

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Speaker 1: He's still through three interceptions?

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Speaker 2: Did he really?

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Speaker 1: That's that's who he is, that's his DNA.

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Speaker 2: Right right. I mean, if you can live with the

571
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Speaker 2: roller coaster of all those dudes that look like they're shot.

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Speaker 2: He's the one that I think could be the next

573
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Speaker 2: Geno Smith in terms of just resurrecting his career. But

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Speaker 2: interceptions don't fly here and he throws it.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't go around here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it just doesn't fit the formula. Gardner minshew, he's okay.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna be more expensive than Taylor and tanneg five.

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Speaker 1: Point three million as that's two years ten point seven

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Speaker 1: million dollars for Gardner. Minshew.

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Speaker 2: He is what he is, which isn't the answer, but

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean he doesn't have value.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean he was okay this year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: fifteen touchdown passes, nine interceptions, eight fumbles, he puts he

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Speaker 1: is he gonna? Is he gonna push picket? Really?

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Speaker 2: And if he does, you got bigger problems period.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You know, like by no means am I suggesting you

588
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 2: should tank. But if Minshoo's your best quarterback, you need

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Speaker 2: a quarterback. I mean you be looking to next year's

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Speaker 2: draft to try to get in the top five or whatever,

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Speaker 2: to get next year's top dude. I mean, he's not

592
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Speaker 2: gonna resurrect himself.

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Speaker 1: I know you like Jacobe Brissett.

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Speaker 2: I do I think he's the best player we've mentioned,

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Speaker 2: I'm not Cousins. Yeah, he's he's gonna be thirty older too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I I honestly expect that New England will make

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Speaker 1: a strong pitch for him.

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Speaker 2: I'd be ideal for them. Yeah, draft one and take

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Speaker 2: per set. I mean that would be my path if

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Speaker 2: I was in charge of the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: So I expect that to happen. They don't have a

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Speaker 1: market value here on him, but he made eight million

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Speaker 1: dollars this year.

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Speaker 2: He was quite good for the Browns. Yeah, and that

605
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Speaker 2: was only one year removed. No, I think he's the

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Speaker 2: best player of those guys, and he could conceivably coming

607
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Speaker 2: here and win the job.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean the more you look it's a bad group,

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Speaker 1: the more look at Mason Rudolph's numbers, It's it's not that.

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Speaker 2: You know, per game, it has to blow all these

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Speaker 2: guys away. Yeah, except for maybe Cousins, But yeah, Cousins

612
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Speaker 2: is a different story.

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Speaker 1: Cousins is a different story. But you're gonna pay a

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Speaker 1: lot more money for Cousins. Even if Jake Browning was

615
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: he did stuff. He threw seven interceptions and fumbled three.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's coming back to since he too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's not anything.

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Speaker 2: Are there any names on that list that's excite you?

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Speaker 2: Like Russell Wilson's not on that list.

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Speaker 1: Not yet?

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Speaker 2: No, then I don't want them. Mayfield's probably on the list.

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Speaker 1: Mayfield's here, but you know when you when you look

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Speaker 1: at Mayfield's just his raw numbers here. Yeah, he threw

624
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Speaker 1: for four thousand yards and he had the touchdown passes great,

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Speaker 1: good good ten interceptions, eight fumbles, and the fumbles have

626
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Speaker 1: always been an issue for him, been an issue.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and his coordinator got a head job, you know,

628
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 2: you know, like there was something that was manufactured, and

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Speaker 2: Mike Evans had a tremendous and his.

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Speaker 1: Market value is twenty seven point one million. They're saying

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Speaker 1: four years, one hundred and eight million dollars. You're gonna

632
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Speaker 1: you're gonna lock up four years in the Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 2: I honestly thought he'd get like thirty eight over two

634
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Speaker 2: or forty over two. No, and the Steelers not going to.

635
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Speaker 1: Anyway twenty seven million dollars.

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Speaker 2: A baker may him twice a year and they were

637
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Speaker 2: happy to play the playing against them, right, So yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't I don't see that route either. I think that's

639
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Speaker 1: why you get it, you know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Fields is a totally different story. He's not

641
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Speaker 2: on that list. He's not going to be on that list.

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00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: That's a different conversation. Yeah, I think my favorite options

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Speaker 2: on that list in order are Rudolph. I mean, consider

644
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Speaker 2: the price that they're projecting. Rudolph would be one. Per

645
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Speaker 2: set would be two. Tannehill would be three.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm just looking here at quarterback who were the

647
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Speaker 1: most successful quarterbacks in the league last year in terms

648
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Speaker 1: of play action passing because we know play action, Oh

649
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Speaker 1: yeah is going to be a big part of this.

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Speaker 1: The quarterback he threw for the most yards last year

651
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Speaker 1: and play action was Jared Goff.

652
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're heavy. So you're talking about yardage.

653
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Speaker 1: I'm talking. I'm talking completion percentage. I'm talking the whole

654
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Speaker 1: Golf completed seventy one percent of his passes play action

655
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Speaker 1: for seventeen, ten touchdowns, one interception.

656
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Speaker 2: Side note, Kenny wasn't great, No, I mean also was

657
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: a smaller, very.

658
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: Much smaller sample size. Then to then you're looking at.

659
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 2: I would he bet too, but golf makes a toime.

660
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: Joran Love was really really good, seventy two percent completion percentage,

661
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: twelve touchdowns, three interceptions off of play action uh CJ.

662
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: Stroud up there, Lamar J Josh Allen, rock Purdy, Stafford, Trevor, Lawrence, Gino,

663
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: Smith Baker. Mayfield was twelfth there. Okay, but he completed

664
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: only his fifteen He had a lot of yardage, but

665
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: fifty nine point one percent completion percentage, which is but

666
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: there's a.

667
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 2: Lot of home run balls to Mike Evans.

668
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, eight touchdowns, five interceptions, that's not what you're looking for.

669
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 2: Man, I've never been a Mayfield fan. I'm happy for

670
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: the year he had, but he had a couple of

671
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: things go his way with coordinator and Evans, et cetera.

672
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: So we know Desmond Ritter was the Falcons quarterback last year.

673
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 2: I've ever seen on that.

674
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: He had one hundred and twenty fourth I'm sorry, Yeah,

675
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty four temps, seventy four completions, so

676
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: fifty nine point seven percent completion percentage, seven touchdowns, two

677
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: interceptions through for just over a thousand yards.

678
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 2: He did it a lot for when he was out there.

679
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: Didn't through a lot of interceptions. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah,

680
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: Flacco had eighty two temps. He had fifty five completions,

681
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: so sixty seven point one percent plelicer percentage, seven touchdowns,

682
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: three interceptions. Minshew's actually and the completion percentage isn't great.

683
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: It was fifty eight point nine seven touchdowns, three interceptions

684
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: justin fields off of play action, ninety attempts not a ton,

685
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: but yeah, fifty five completions, so sixty one point one

686
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: percent percentage, three touchdowns, no interceptions.

687
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 2: Sense. Yeah, How about Tannehill or is he too low?

688
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,719
Speaker 1: I'm looking here. Tannehill was thirty eight of seventy, so

689
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: fifty four point three percent complet of percentage, two touchdowns,

690
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: three interceptions.

691
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, not great, not great because he's always been very good,

692
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: you know in his heyday. Yeah, yeah, back when they

693
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: were a good team.

694
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs was actually okay, was he play action? He

695
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: just turns the ball over way too good.

696
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 2: He's a free agent two yeah, yeah.

697
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: He was seventy four of one to twelve, so she

698
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: had a sixty six point one percent completioner percentage seven

699
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: hundred and nine yards, three touchdowns, one interception.

700
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 2: Is Rudolph not big enough sample size on there? He's

701
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 2: gonna be way down the list.

702
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: H He's gonna be way down the list picket for people.

703
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: So Pickett was actually forty two of fifty three and

704
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: play action last year, seventy nine point two percent completion percent.

705
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:16,959
Speaker 2: I knowize it was that good.

706
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, two touchdowns and no interception, so it wasn't awful.

707
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: No, it wasn't. I mean, at least he's completing balls.

708
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you get the high completion percentage. You know

709
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: who else was not bad? Daniel Jones thirty two of

710
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: forty four.

711
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: I think you could get him into trade, and his

712
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 2: contract's not insanely bad. I just don't think he'll ever

713
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: be the answer. Yeah, but he's better than Tannehill and

714
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 2: everyone we've.

715
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: Just talked about, and he would be somebody that would

716
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: push picket.

717
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: Oh. I think it'd be a flat out fifty to

718
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 2: fifty race.

719
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: They're both first rounds draft picks.

720
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: Yeah both, you know, both time to put up or

721
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: shot up. Yeah, both good athletes. Jones is a really

722
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 2: good runner. What's his contract because they already paid the bonus.

723
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: I don't think he'd kill you.

724
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I don't know what I mean.

725
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 2: I'm a psyched to trade for Daniel Jones. I mean,

726
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 2: and everyone's like, oh my god, Yeah, you know, like

727
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 2: you think he's the answer. No, I didn't like him

728
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 2: coming out of Duke, to be honest with you, but

729
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 2: there aren't many options. No, I don't think he'd cost

730
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 2: you nearly as much as fielding.

731
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: Thirty five million dollar. Yeah, that's a bad contract. That's oought.

732
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 2: He was much cheaper.

733
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: Bad contract.

734
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 2: Never, I don't want to do him.

735
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, mac Jones wasn't. Mac Jones was forty six of

736
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: sixty nine, okay, sixty six point seven percent completion of

737
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: percentage two touchdowns for interceptions though that's the.

738
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 2: Problem, really bad. Yeah, I'm a little bit of a

739
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,919
Speaker 2: mac Jones apologist because I don't think he's the worst

740
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 2: quarterback in the league. No, I don't think he show

741
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 2: he is. But I think getting out of that building

742
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: could be good for him. But I also not willing

743
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 2: to say that he's in the mix to be the answer.

744
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: So Mason Rudolph of play action was twelve of eighteen.

745
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 1: That's sixty six point seven saying completeer percentage one hundred

746
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: and fifty two yards, no touchdowns, no interceptions.

747
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 2: Only eighteen shots shots twelve.

748
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:08,959
Speaker 1: Of eighteen for one hundred and fifty two.

749
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 2: Yards he did everything. Well, yeah, that's bad at all.

750
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just looking to see here anybody jumps out

751
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: at I mean, really those are let's look at what.

752
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 2: Do you think Rudolph's contracts gonna ask? What's he gonna

753
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 2: ask for? What's Tribisky?

754
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: Well, I mean Bridgewater got eight, Bridgewater got eight last

755
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: year or not? Bridgewater persec got eight last year from Washington.

756
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 2: I'd say under that, I'd say you're looking at six years, fifteen,

757
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 2: six or seven. Anyways, Trubisky got more than that, right,

758
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 2: was he tennish?

759
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 1: He got sixteen for two years two.

760
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 2: I've always kind of thought that you offer a Mitch's deal.

761
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, in terms of straight yards per attempt when using

762
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: play action.

763
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: So I bet this is where Kenny's a little lower.

764
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: I'm just looking here to see, like suddenly had two

765
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: attempts there, Jameis Winston only had two attempts there. Uh,

766
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 1: Flacco everage twelve yards per attempt on play action? He

767
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: was he was way fifth. Taylor Heineke was twenty two

768
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: to thirty six.

769
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: I mean, all the guys were gonna talk about aren't

770
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 2: going to have much to go?

771
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tyrod Taylor was twenty of thirty two for three seventeen,

772
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, two interceptions. I get, yeah, this is what

773
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: you're looking at, folks. This is not great, not.

774
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 2: Great now, I think the I mean, you're gonna have

775
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 2: a lot of information on Tannehill if you could feel

776
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 2: good about him being healthier and not shot out of

777
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: some interest there. But none of these names are making

778
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 2: doing much for me.

779
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: Actually. Drew Locke was eighteen or thirteen of eighteen for

780
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty yards, one touchdown, one interception on

781
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: play action.

782
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll Lovedrew Locke. Yeah, could he be had for

783
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 2: a fifth rom.

784
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: He's free agent? Oh he's up, yeah, Hu.

785
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 2: At least he has I'm not sure his book's written yet.

786
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 2: At least I mean Tyrod Taylor's books written.

787
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: It's the Drew Locke thing would have a little bit

788
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: of a feel to what you have there already.

789
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 2: The Trubisky field. Yeah, oh yeah, I mean talented wild

790
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 2: card stallion.

791
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 1: Not a lot of success, you know, it was actually

792
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: really good on play action last year. Tyson Badgeant was

793
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: twenty two of twenty eight for two hundred and fifty

794
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: four yards, two touchdowns, no interceptions on play action.

795
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 2: Did you say Fields was good too.

796
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: Fields was pretty good.

797
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: Maybe that was the offense. Yeah, so maybe they were

798
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 2: a good play action team.

799
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 1: But there's not a lot, not a lot of options

800
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: out there that match up with this. You know what

801
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: else was actually good? Their car? Yeah, by that fifty

802
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: nine of eighty three. So he completed seventy one point

803
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: one percent of his passes, four touchdowns, no interceptions, seven

804
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty seven yards.

805
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 2: And this season got a lot better than people think. Yeah,

806
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 2: I guess they came out. I think they extended him.

807
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 2: I mean he's going to be their quarterback for the

808
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 2: next year. Yeah, like that's you can't get him now.

809
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: But his he averaged eight point eight yards per past attempt.

810
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: Rudolph was at eight point four. So yeah, yeah, I mean,

811
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: I honestly think your best option is you got to

812
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: bring Rudolph back.

813
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 2: I agree, and I am curious what the money would be.

814
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 2: He's gotten more mobile since he's been here, but Smith

815
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 2: has always wanted a mobile quarterback back to Tannehill, Mariota Ritter.

816
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 2: I mean, Rudolph would clearly be the least mobile of

817
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 2: all those guys, including a statue. Though he's not a statue.

818
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 2: He does. He's statuesque in the pocket. Yeah, you know,

819
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 2: but he can move a little. I mean, you're not

820
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 2: going to design run. None of those guys are great

821
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 2: design run dudes. Mariota kind of was, but was overrated

822
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,720
Speaker 2: that way. But I do think this system prefers somebody

823
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 2: that can move.

824
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Rudolph's better.

825
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: Than that than he was. But that would be my

826
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 2: only hesitation fit wise, but he played really well.

827
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. So anyway, let's get to another break. When we

828
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: come back, we'll give our Super Bowl picks. I think

829
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: everybody knows where we're both leaning at this point, but

830
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 1: we've got to give a score.

831
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's be high scoring or low scoring,

832
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 2: but I think I know who's gonna win.

833
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: Okay, we will do that right after this. He is

834
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,920
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835
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,880
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843
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 1: You're listening to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio,

844
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 1: and it's time for us to make our Super Bowl pick.

845
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

846
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: I think we're both picking the Chiefs.

847
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 2: Yes.

848
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: Uh so, I got some stuff here for you. Met

849
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: cool So. Patrick Mahomes just faced the Chiefs three other

850
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: times in his career. He's three in those games and

851
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: he has averaged.

852
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 2: Probably pretty good, it's pretty good.

853
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: Uh, three hundred and forty one yards per game. And

854
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: the Chiefs have averagers averaged almost thirty eight points per

855
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: game in those games.

856
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 2: Wow. I mean they don't play often, so, I mean

857
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,439
Speaker 2: I can't. I think they've played last year. I'm trying

858
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 2: to think of when the last time they did battle.

859
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 2: So but still, during the six years of Mahome's been

860
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 2: a starter, Niners have been one of the better teams

861
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: in the league. You know, man, he has smoked them

862
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 2: and he's destroyed them. Wilkes is the decordinator. Now he's

863
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: never faced him as the Niners decordinator. I've been down

864
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 2: on the Chiefso line, but it's been playing a lot

865
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 2: better lately, including their tackles, which I think are problematic.

866
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 2: But they're still pretty good. And it's the Niners d

867
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 2: has been not great at all. Yeah, they've been getting

868
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 2: run on. They've been getting run to the outside, in particular,

869
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 2: pass rush hasn't been getting home. And I think the

870
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 2: secondary is okay. I think it does really well. Yeah,

871
00:40:58,880 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: I don't think is to make mistakes.

872
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: He's eighty eight and twenty five in his career.

873
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 2: That's remarkable.

874
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: Eighty eight and twenty five is a seventy seven point

875
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 1: nine seven to seventy nine winning percentage.

876
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 2: Does that include playoffs too, Yeah, there's a ton of

877
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 2: playoff games, and they're against the Bills and Ravens and

878
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 2: Niners and great teams. All his numbers are remarkable.

879
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: Just it's off the charts ridiculous.

880
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's short.

881
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I you know, I'm not worried about

882
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: him in one bit. No. I So, if you were

883
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 1: San Francisco, how are you defending Kansas City? Are you

884
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: focusing solely on Kelsey and trying to take Kelsey out

885
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 1: of the game.

886
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 2: I think more than anything.

887
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 1: At the expense of allowing them to run the football

888
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: or having Rashid Rice catch twelve passes.

889
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 2: Now, the thing is Mahomes he'll get I mean he'll

890
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 2: he'll attack, or he'll distribute the ball to his best guy.

891
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 1: He's but he's also willing, as he showed against Ball tomorrow.

892
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: He'll just check it down, check it down, check it down.

893
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 2: He's become so much more patient. Yeah, death by a

894
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 2: thousand paper cuts. All the real tape heads are blown

895
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 2: away with how much he's advanced mentally, you know, in

896
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: terms of recognizing where things are at the lack of

897
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 2: mistakes I think is so important and so impressive because

898
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,720
Speaker 2: he also has the big plays of course.

899
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just felt like against the Ravens he was

900
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:30,240
Speaker 1: playing chess. Yeah, against a team that tries to play chess,

901
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: but he made them look like they were playing checkers.

902
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean that first try, I was just.

903
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna take this. I'm gonna take that, Yeah,

904
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: says Kelsey, up for a screen. Oh you're gonna double. Okay,

905
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna get in behind the line of

906
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: scrimmage and let him get you know, try to tackle

907
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: this two hundred and fifty pound guy once he's got

908
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: a head of steam.

909
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. So I'm picking the

910
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 2: game twenty three to twenty the Chiefs, But I feel

911
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 2: so much more confident about picking a Chiefs win as

912
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 2: opposed to picking the over unders.

913
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

914
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 2: If it could be thirty seven to thirty four, you know,

915
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 2: I mean, it could be thirty seven to twenty. Mahomes

916
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 2: might never punt, you know what I mean. Like, I

917
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 2: don't know if it's gonna be a ton of points

918
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 2: or not. We were talking about this earlier. I do

919
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 2: think both teams might play it sorta close to the

920
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 2: vest to start. But I definitely like the Chiefs at

921
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 2: the beginning of the game because of nerves, And I

922
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 2: definitely like the Chiefs in the fourth quarter because he's

923
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 2: Mahomes and he wins. You know. So can the Niners

924
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 2: dominate the middle eight? You know, the middle quarters? That's

925
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 2: a tough task. Yeah, it's a tough task, especially if

926
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: you're down ten nothing before you know it. Like I

927
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 2: could see Mahomes getting the opening kickoff and do the

928
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 2: exact same thing. It's the Ravens on that first drive.

929
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: Then everybody tightens up even more, you know, and he's

930
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 2: just laughing and joking on the sidelines. He's that good.

931
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I really do.

932
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the Chiefs twenty seven to twenty four. Again,

933
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,399
Speaker 1: I'm like you, though, I don't love that score. I'm

934
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: not trying to figure out different. Well, like, I just

935
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: don't love it. Yeah, I don't love the I think

936
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: they win, but I don't.

937
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 2: You know, I'm shocked there not to two and a

938
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 2: half point favorite or two point favorites because of him,

939
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 2: because of Red, because of Kelsey and Spags. I mean,

940
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 2: I think Spags is a huge component against this. And

941
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 2: Shanahan's a wonderful offensive mind, but Spags versus Party all

942
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 2: he needs. I mean, Party's so timing in rhythm oriented,

943
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 2: and that's his superpower and that's not his obvious as

944
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 2: Josh Allen's superpower and all those things. But if Spag

945
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 2: should make him pat that ball ten plays more than

946
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 2: he usually does. That's when it goes a little awry,

947
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 2: or it gets tipped, or he throws those you know,

948
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 2: interceptible passes, or you know, it just doesn't play.

949
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, they you know, they got up and pressed on

950
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: the out receivers and said, Okay, we're gonna we're gonna

951
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 1: disrupt these guys. Well, you're not going to know who's

952
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: coming in.

953
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 2: I mean, they're a huge blitz team, but he may

954
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: drop eight a bunch and party's looking for that eighth

955
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 2: defender and then he's tapping the ball, and then he's

956
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 2: not playing in rhythm. They're a huge press man te

957
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 2: but they're a big man coverage team and they had

958
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 2: corners to do it, you know, Like, yeah, they might

959
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 2: get beat over the top once in a while, but

960
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna make him hold that football and

961
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 2: think more than play and rhythm. And I don't think

962
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 2: they're gonna I know that the Chiefs run defense is questionable,

963
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 2: but I'd be shocked if they're content with we're gonna

964
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 2: sit here and too high, press, cover two man and

965
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 2: just let McCaffrey average six and a half yards to carry. Like,

966
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 2: I just don't think that they're gonna make Purty beat

967
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: them more than McCaffrey. And McCaffrey will get his stats

968
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 2: of matter one. Yeah, and mostly the receiver. Maybe, I

969
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 2: don't know. Yeah, it's a great matchup. It is a

970
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 2: great matchup. I think it's gonna be, to your point,

971
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: a great chess match here.

972
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: You know.

973
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 2: There are some inherent things though that the Chiefs do

974
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 2: as their DNA that the Niners don't like. Yeah, and

975
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 2: a lot of the experience stuff I think is really

976
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 2: big in a game.

977
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: I don't know that the that the Niners necessarily love

978
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: a team that's gonna come out and play a bunch

979
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 1: of man against them. So either because again, you could

980
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: throw the timing off on a lot of those.

981
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 2: Bets and that's all you need. Yeah, I mean, Ayu's

982
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 2: a good man beater, but he's gonna go against need probably.

983
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're probably gonna lock him down to travel with him, and.

984
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and yeah, Kittle and Debo could get free. And

985
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 2: another huge thing to me is these are the two

986
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 2: best yards after catch teams in the league. They're both

987
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 2: really good tackling teams. But the team that tackles better,

988
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 2: takes better angles is going to go a long way

989
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 2: end the game. I trust Red more than I trust Shanahan.

990
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: Special teams is a noticeable advantage for Kansas City. Kicker

991
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 2: is a noticeable advantage. Moody to win it or Butker

992
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 2: to win it. It's a no Brainer. You know, it

993
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 2: doesn't mean Moody can't, but the favors the Chiefs.

994
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, he'd liked you know, if Thuni was playing,

995
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: that would be helpful, that would be helpful. But Nick

996
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 1: Ali Gretti held his own was finding as the Ravens.

997
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: That's tough. That's as tough a defense you're gonna face,

998
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: ye their building.

999
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I would try to get Hardgrave over

1000
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 2: him time and time again. But hard Grave has been good,

1001
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 2: not great. Yeah, Chase Young has been bad. Yeah, I

1002
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 2: mean you can run at him. He's another one who

1003
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 2: loves the run, ray past the quarterback on speed rush.

1004
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,239
Speaker 1: They do that against Mahomes, He'll take that lane. He'll

1005
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:17,439
Speaker 1: take off every time.

1006
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 2: And I love Bosa. I think he's tremendous, but he'll

1007
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 2: do that once in a while too. You know, he's

1008
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 2: so aggressive out of his stance. I mean he just pounces.

1009
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 2: I love his stance, Like I could never even get

1010
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 2: my body in his stance. And sometimes he will go

1011
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 2: for the kill a little too much. And Mahomes is

1012
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,439
Speaker 2: gonna take that lane a thousand of a thousand times.

1013
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 2: And Young's like with the worst in the league. He's

1014
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 2: like early career, Bud Dupree, you know, like, what are

1015
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,959
Speaker 2: you doing, man? Yeah, you can't do that against Mahome.

1016
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: No, you can't do that against Mahomes because he he's

1017
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: not a great runner, but he's an effective runner.

1018
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, efficient run.

1019
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: He looks like knee running around out there. It's so

1020
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: no one ever catch but nobody catches him.

1021
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: Weird Lway gate to him, you know, the boat lean

1022
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 2: eggs and he doesn't explode like it.

1023
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 1: Never looks like he's running full speed.

1024
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 2: No, no one ever catches him, and it's always on

1025
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,439
Speaker 2: third down and he gets seven when he needs six. Yeah,

1026
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 2: and it makes you nuts. Yeah, it's it's it's too much,

1027
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 2: it's too consistently a cat. Yeah, I mean it's balance.

1028
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 2: His spatial awareness is off the charts.

1029
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. And they like the game against the Ravens. They

1030
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: talked about you know, Baltimore really wants to come out

1031
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: and hit him in these situations.

1032
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 2: Have you seen him? Yeah, right, Gretzky is that way.

1033
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 2: I mean, just you see the ice better than everybody else.

1034
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 2: I mean, it's spatial awareness understanding.

1035
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: When he's doing that, the game, everything everybody else is

1036
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: moving in slow motion. He's like neo out there exactly

1037
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: exactly the matrix.

1038
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 2: He absolutely is. He sees the world differently than most

1039
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,240
Speaker 2: and that might be his greatest advantage.

1040
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's gonna be a fun game to

1041
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: watch it. You know, if San Francisco wins this game

1042
00:48:55,600 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 1: of wins, surprise. If if the forty or Kansas City

1043
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 1: loses this game, it's because they had a bunch of penalties.

1044
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: Could be that's the one thing that they do that

1045
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: I look at and say, you know, sneak gonna get

1046
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: a bunch of holding, a lot of man getting getting.

1047
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 2: Grabby tackles, take a tunnel penalty.

1048
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: Their tackles have been been good in the playoffs.

1049
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's small sample size, but they are grabby.

1050
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 2: But there's always less flags in the Yeah, in the

1051
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 2: super Bowl as well.

1052
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. One thing that I heard this is rolling into

1053
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: last week's or two weeks ago before the conference championships,

1054
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers taking an ordinate amount of pre

1055
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: snap penalties. Those have to get called. You got guys

1056
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: jumping off sides or false starting, those are gonna get called.

1057
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 2: I didn't know that, but that adds up. I mean,

1058
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 2: bosas like a cat drag to pounce and their whole

1059
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 2: d line is built on explosion, get off the ball,

1060
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 2: and their offense has so much pre snat motion. There's

1061
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 2: a little more room for air there. Okay, any young

1062
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 2: quarterback in any young quarterback, Yeah, just communications.

1063
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: So you know if they get two or three those

1064
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: and puts them behind the sticks, that that changes things

1065
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: a little bit.

1066
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 2: In a game like this. Yeah, that's interesting. I am

1067
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 2: really curious how much the spag and all thettle blitz.

1068
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what he loves to do, and he's

1069
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,240
Speaker 2: the best at it. Pretty's handled the blitz and pressures

1070
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 2: pretty well. Yeah, I think I'd rather sit back a

1071
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 2: little bit.

1072
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, so get me fun. We'll be back on Monday

1073
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: to talk about it. Just a reminder to everybody that's

1074
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: starting next week, we'll go back to our Monday, Wednesday,

1075
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: Friday schedule.

1076
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 2: Uh.

1077
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: That'll be in place until the Combine at the end

1078
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: of the month, which isn't that far away. Then we'll

1079
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: have four five day we don't I guess we'll do

1080
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: Tuesday through Saturday at the Combine.

1081
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 2: The schedule is typically what we do out there, but

1082
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 2: so and we mix things up. I usually do two

1083
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:41,919
Speaker 2: different shows.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we get a four I mean, we'll go all

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Speaker 1: day long in the Combine all the time. Man, We'll

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Speaker 1: get a lot of guests on.

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Speaker 2: If you even listen to Combine stuff, it's some of

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Speaker 2: the best stuff we do all year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's a lon, a lot of fun

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Speaker 1: out there. We get to talk to a lot of

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Speaker 1: different guests.

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Speaker 2: And weighings as they happen. Yeah, sometimes the benches right

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Speaker 2: next to us and all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: Too beautiful, beautiful, But that's going to do it for

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Speaker 1: our show today and for the week. So for my

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Speaker 1: partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller keeping us here on

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Speaker 1: the air on site, I am Dale, Lolly. We appreciate

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Speaker 1: you listening to this edition of The Drive on Steelers

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Speaker 1: Nation Radio