WEBVTT - 031123 Dilbert Comic Creator’s Thoughts on Race Relations (Part 1)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another episode of CIVI Czipher. I'm your host.

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<v Speaker 1>Ramsey's job is Rams' job. He calls me q war

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<v Speaker 1>most of the time.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys are tuned in too, Synic Cipher.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back, y'all. Stick around. A lot in store for

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<v Speaker 1>you today, A lot to talk about. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>things have been up in the news, not the least

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<v Speaker 1>of which is Gilbert or rather the comic strip creator

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<v Speaker 1>for the Gilbert Comics and some of his comments that

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<v Speaker 1>have resulted in him being dropped by newspapers across the country.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to get into that and break that down

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<v Speaker 1>and figure out the whys and potential sources, and of

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<v Speaker 1>course do our best to educate you how to interact

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<v Speaker 1>with folks who might feel as frustrated as he does

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<v Speaker 1>and feel like, you know that is whatever, We'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you the whole story. Stick around for that. Also, we

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<v Speaker 1>have to talk about Sea Pack Conservative Political Action conference

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<v Speaker 1>that took place recently and these new candidates who will

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<v Speaker 1>be running for the GOP nomination. This is a space

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<v Speaker 1>that we function in as well, and so it's our

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<v Speaker 1>job to kind of brief you on what things may come.

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<v Speaker 1>Some are familiar than some maybe you don't know too

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<v Speaker 1>much about so all that, and of course we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be doing our way black history fact. This time

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to be talking about something I didn't know about.

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<v Speaker 1>I came across this piece of information and I'm happy

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<v Speaker 1>to share our way black history fact. A bomb that

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<v Speaker 1>was set off deliberately in Philadelphia that killed eleven black folks,

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<v Speaker 1>five of them were children. So there's a whole story

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<v Speaker 1>there and that and so much more for you to

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<v Speaker 1>stick around. But first and foremost, like we always do it,

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<v Speaker 1>this time, let's uh check out some ebony excellence. How

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<v Speaker 1>does that sound to UQ? Shall we shall? So? This

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<v Speaker 1>week's Ebony Excellence is sponsored by Hip Hop Weekly Media,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are going to be shouting out a lady

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<v Speaker 1>another VideA I didn't know too much about named Charlane

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<v Speaker 1>Vivian Stringer. What's her? What's she known by?

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<v Speaker 2>Professionally known as C Vivian string that's it?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, She's an athlete, and Q kind of knows about

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<v Speaker 1>athletes stuff. Anyway, She's an American former basketball coach and

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<v Speaker 1>she holds one of the best coaching records in the

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<v Speaker 1>history of women's basketball. She was the head coach of

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<v Speaker 1>the Rutgers University women's basketball team from ninety five until

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<v Speaker 1>her retirement in twenty twenty two. Stringer is the first

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<v Speaker 1>coach in NCAA history to lead three different women's programs

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<v Speaker 1>to the NCAA Final Four. Rutgers, how do I say that?

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<v Speaker 1>Rutgers Rutgers, that's it in two thousand and in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and seven, the University of Iowa in nineteen ninety three,

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<v Speaker 1>and Cheney State College which is now Cheney University of

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<v Speaker 1>Pennsylvania in nineteen eighty two. She is the fifth winningest

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<v Speaker 1>coach in women's basketball history, and she was honored as

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<v Speaker 1>the Naismith College Coach of the Year for women's basketball

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<v Speaker 1>at ninety three, and she's a member of the Women's

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<v Speaker 1>Basketball Hall of Fame. She was elected to the Basketball

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame in April two thousand and nine and

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<v Speaker 1>was inducted in the September of that year. On February

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sixth, twenty thirteen, Stringer won her nine hundredth game,

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<v Speaker 1>becoming only the fourth coach in women's basketball history to

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<v Speaker 1>reach that mark. And she's about to have her seventy

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<v Speaker 1>fifth birthday, and she is decidedly Ebny excellence, And from

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<v Speaker 1>what I understand and how she came to our attention

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<v Speaker 1>here is that she took a group of women from

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<v Speaker 1>an HBCU to the championship very early in her career,

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<v Speaker 1>when she wasn't even a coach. She just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>volunteered for that program. So a lot of success stories

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<v Speaker 1>in her lifetime and were happy to celebrate her. So yeah, now,

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<v Speaker 1>before we get into this serious question, did you ever

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<v Speaker 1>really read the Dilbert comics.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never read the Delbert comics, but they are so

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<v Speaker 2>excessively popular that I've seen them. You're familiar with them.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say millions of times, but that sounds

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<v Speaker 2>like too many. I know, I'm being hyperbolic on purpose.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen them amount of part of.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, I recognize that some of our listeners might

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<v Speaker 1>not have grown up in a world where newspapers were popular.

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<v Speaker 1>So Dilbert is a newspaper comic. It's basically like a

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<v Speaker 1>one frame cartoon or four frame cartoon or whatever, where

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<v Speaker 1>you look at this image and then the next one

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<v Speaker 1>next to it, and so forth all the way through,

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<v Speaker 1>and it tells you a story. And Dilbert was about

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who worked in an office space and often

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<v Speaker 1>had issues with office politics or office life or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was a comic, so it was meant to

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<v Speaker 1>be funnier, you know, bring some attention about or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. It wasn't a political cartoon per se. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just making light.

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<v Speaker 2>Of kind satirical though, right right, So.

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<v Speaker 1>This is how we came to know Gilbert as a

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<v Speaker 1>part of you know, popular culture. But I would never

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<v Speaker 1>go as far as to say that Gilbert spoke to

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<v Speaker 1>my reality. You know, by the time I got old

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<v Speaker 1>enough to start trying to read newspapers every day for content,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, phones were out and you could just look

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<v Speaker 1>at a phone and I so I didn't really come

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<v Speaker 1>across Dilbert for the sake of enjoying it. I just

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<v Speaker 1>was generally familiar with it. But the illustrator and the

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<v Speaker 1>creator of this comic had some some interesting things to

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<v Speaker 1>say recently. We're going to get into that in just

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<v Speaker 1>a moment. And what he said, there are some people

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<v Speaker 1>out there that that defended it because taking it faced value,

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<v Speaker 1>you might not know exactly what he was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>say or what he was trying to get at. And

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<v Speaker 1>the world is full of ignoratuses and people who insist

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<v Speaker 1>on being the victim and who insist on seeing other

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<v Speaker 1>people who demand equality as playing the victim right, And

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<v Speaker 1>we have a classic example of that here, And that's

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<v Speaker 1>why we wanted to talk about this today because we

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<v Speaker 1>know that this might be making the rounds in your world,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe it already has, and without context, a person

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<v Speaker 1>might look at what he's saying and say, well I

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<v Speaker 1>could see that, or well maybe there's a point. And

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<v Speaker 1>we're here to educate you and to paint the picture.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. They got to be doing some stretching.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, sure we know that, but you and I both

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<v Speaker 1>know that. But you know, people who don't live this

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<v Speaker 1>life life and you know, read what we read, know

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<v Speaker 1>what we know, have the experience we have, they might

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<v Speaker 1>that it might not be as far of a stretch

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<v Speaker 1>for them, because again, accepting certain things at face value,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all you know. There's no context, there's no nuance,

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing else to it, and so we're happy to

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<v Speaker 1>share with you. So let me read a bit. This

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<v Speaker 1>comes from NPR dot org. I like saying the names

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<v Speaker 1>of our sources, so you know kind of where we're

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<v Speaker 1>picking from. And if you need a different type of

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<v Speaker 1>balance be our guests, but we're letting you know our

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<v Speaker 1>starting point, so i'll read. The fallout was sparked by

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<v Speaker 1>a YouTube livestream posted February twenty second where Adams, who

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<v Speaker 1>is the guy who creates the Dilbert comic, referenced a

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<v Speaker 1>Rasmussen poll that found only a slim majority of black

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<v Speaker 1>Americans agreed with the statement it's okay to be white.

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<v Speaker 1>Adams went on to accuse black Americans of being quote

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<v Speaker 1>a hate group and advise white people to quote get

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<v Speaker 1>away away from them. Okay, but cartoonists say Adams has

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<v Speaker 1>a long history of spewing problematic views and the past,

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<v Speaker 1>Adams has inaccurately described people who are not vaccinated against

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<v Speaker 1>COVID as the real winners of the pandemic. He also

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<v Speaker 1>questioned the accuracy of the Holocaust death toll. Another of

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<v Speaker 1>Adams claims is that he had lost most multiple job

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities for being white. All right, so let's stop here

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<v Speaker 1>for a quick tick. Okay. Now, his other idea political

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<v Speaker 1>ideas about the vaccine, about you know, the way the

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<v Speaker 1>world is working, or whatever, kind of paints a picture

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<v Speaker 1>of maybe who he is probably seems like a solitary

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<v Speaker 1>dude maybe gets his information from one source, maybe to

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<v Speaker 1>the lesser right leaning of the two, would probably be

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<v Speaker 1>Fox News, and has insisted has determined rather that the

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<v Speaker 1>world is against him or his kind in particular. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's a lot of folks out there who straight

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<v Speaker 1>white Christian men are like, yo, we're under attack, right,

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<v Speaker 1>They feel that way, and whether or not we believe

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<v Speaker 1>it's founded, we have to acknowledge that that is true.

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<v Speaker 1>And on this show we've always done this that we

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledge that is true. You feel that way, and we

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledge that you are our brothers, no matter what, you

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<v Speaker 1>are our brothers, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm acknowledging that you're Tripp and Trip. Of course

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<v Speaker 2>you're Trip, and that's that goes without saying. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we can't dismiss people. We wouldn't want that happening to us.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't do that to anyone else. And we have

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<v Speaker 2>to acknowledge, Okay, this is your reality and approach it accordingly.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So let me go through this again, at least

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<v Speaker 1>the first part again for folks that don't know better

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<v Speaker 1>to take it at face value, him saying that this

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<v Speaker 1>rass musen pole found only a slim majority, again majority.

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<v Speaker 1>Most black people, according to the ras musen Pole, feel

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<v Speaker 1>or rather agree with the statement it's okay to be white.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he looks at well, the rest of the black

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<v Speaker 1>people almost half disagree with that. This is his determination

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<v Speaker 1>based on that one little bit of information, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he goes on to say the black people are hey group.

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<v Speaker 1>White people need to get away from him. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>if those are the facts, you can say, well, shoot,

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<v Speaker 1>if he feels that way and that pole is accurate

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<v Speaker 1>and blah blah blah, then he's off the deep end.

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<v Speaker 1>But I see how he could reach that conclusion. Whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not you agree with this or not in question,

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<v Speaker 1>you could see how a person could go from reading

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<v Speaker 1>this one pole to that conclusion, or at least I

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<v Speaker 1>could see him going crazy based off of that. The

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<v Speaker 1>thing is, I know better, So I'm going to help

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<v Speaker 1>you to know better as well. I'll start first off,

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<v Speaker 1>ras musen poll very very right leaning pole, very rightly.

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<v Speaker 1>They're known for that. Right, a slim majority is still

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<v Speaker 1>a majority. But remember there's when when people do polling,

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<v Speaker 1>there's you know, do you agree with this statement? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you disagree with this statement? And often enough there is uh,

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<v Speaker 1>don't know enough about the statement to respond or have

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<v Speaker 1>no response or you know, offer no, you know whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So in his determination that nearly have black people disagree

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<v Speaker 1>with this, it doesn't account for the people who refuse

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<v Speaker 1>to respond, you know, et cetera. Another thing that we don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Nearly have of the black people that were polled and responded,

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<v Speaker 2>that could be seventeen people. There you go, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>saying that's so, but just.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, and where where were those people from? Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>exactly are they from the South? Where they where they've

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<v Speaker 1>had really rough time with you know, racial relations and

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<v Speaker 1>so forth. But here's the thing that is I think

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<v Speaker 1>the most important thing for everyone to.

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<v Speaker 2>Know about.

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<v Speaker 1>When you ask the statement it's okay. When you ask

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<v Speaker 1>people if it's if it's okay to be white, that's

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<v Speaker 1>very similar to asking like, okay, do you agree with

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<v Speaker 1>the statement? Let me ask you a question, Q. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you agree with the statement black power? It's an honest question.

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<v Speaker 1>You can say no if you don't, But do you

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<v Speaker 1>agree with the statement black power? Someone said black power

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<v Speaker 1>would be like yeah, men, it's fine, yes, okay. Cool. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if somebody came and said white power. How would that

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<v Speaker 1>make you feel? Is it a different single word answer?

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<v Speaker 2>Because because that statement is very, very problematic, That's all

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<v Speaker 2>I needed.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all I needed. That was a perfect answer. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so watch this. The reason why black power is different

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<v Speaker 1>from white power is because white power is rooted in

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<v Speaker 1>the oppression of black people. The statement and black power

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<v Speaker 1>is meant to galvanize and energize and fortify and movement

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<v Speaker 1>an idea of black people pursuing equality, pursuing fairness, pursuing

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<v Speaker 1>you know, representation, et cetera. Right, so, the spirit behind

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<v Speaker 1>the statement is very different. Even though you just change

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<v Speaker 1>black to white in the black power white power. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to take it a step further, if I may.

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<v Speaker 1>I am a part of a group. I've said this

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<v Speaker 1>on the show before. I'm a part of a group

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<v Speaker 1>on and Reddit, and this group is the opposition. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>We do a show here where we do our best

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<v Speaker 1>to have conversations Black conversations, and oftentimes we share this

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<v Speaker 1>stage with our AAPI brothers and sisters, our Hispanic brothers

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<v Speaker 1>and sisters, our Native brothers and sisters, our lgbt q

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<v Speaker 1>I A plus brothers and sisters. We've even had officers

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<v Speaker 1>chime in on the show here, and we find spouses

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<v Speaker 1>and we find exactly I remember that, Yeah, And we

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<v Speaker 1>find that those systems that the officers subscribe to are

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<v Speaker 1>very problematic. Right, but we do recognize that brotherhood is

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<v Speaker 1>central and fellowship and love is central to our mission

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<v Speaker 1>here on this show. Right, However, I need to know

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<v Speaker 1>what people who don't subscribe to that philosophy are saying

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<v Speaker 1>and doing and how they feel. So rather than just

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<v Speaker 1>subscribe to a bunch of like pro Hispanic, pro black,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, lgbt Q, I A positive you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>next Shark for my AAPI, brothers and sisters, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all those things where I get my information, I also

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<v Speaker 1>subscribe to people who would be very much opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>even the fellowship that we try to create, the environment

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<v Speaker 1>that we try to create on the show. And one

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<v Speaker 1>such subscription that I have is through Reddit, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>called It's Okay to Be White. I've been a member

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<v Speaker 1>as long as I've been on this show. When do

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<v Speaker 1>we make this show? In September of twenty twenty, right,

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<v Speaker 1>ever since then, I've been on in that group and

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<v Speaker 1>that subreddit, just a fly on the walls reading all

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<v Speaker 1>these things that these very very conservative, often you know,

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<v Speaker 1>very masculine energy behind a lot of the posts. What

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<v Speaker 1>they feel, why they feel like the world is crumbling

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<v Speaker 1>around them, why they feel they're under attack being replaced,

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<v Speaker 1>why black people are all criminals and ugly and whatever

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is that they think that's worth posting that day,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all there. And in my estimation, it is a

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<v Speaker 1>bonafide racist group. It is a group where racist people

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<v Speaker 1>can go and celebrate and share their racist ideas with

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<v Speaker 1>each other and have a sense of community. Right And

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<v Speaker 1>because they're doing it out in front of people, and

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<v Speaker 1>because they don't use the N word, because it's moderated,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, or I don't know that Reddit allows that

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<v Speaker 1>language or whatever. But because they don't do that, they

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<v Speaker 1>can tell themselves that they're not racist. They're just dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with the real right. But what in effect is that

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<v Speaker 1>it is very very extremely mean spirited. It is not

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<v Speaker 1>rooted in fellowship and growth and togetherness and building. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>it's rooted in the opposite. You can't tell me otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>because I've been a member for years. Okay, now the

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<v Speaker 1>name of that group once again, it's okay to be white.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we talked about the spirit of a statement. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>white power versus black power. I got another one for Q.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna love this one. Our listeners are gonna love

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<v Speaker 1>this one, especially the ones that know black lives matter.

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<v Speaker 1>What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 2>It is an affirmation of oppressed, marginalized groups right to

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<v Speaker 2>simply exist important to point out, not even to pursue happiness,

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<v Speaker 2>not even to thrive, not even to live a full life,

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<v Speaker 2>just to exist because the world around them is constantly

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<v Speaker 2>trying to drive home the idea that those lives are

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<v Speaker 2>without worth and that they're meaningless, and that their pain

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<v Speaker 2>and their loss of life means nothing to the greater

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<v Speaker 2>community around them.

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<v Speaker 1>Masterful, masterful, Now you know what's coming next, right, White

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<v Speaker 1>lives matter?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So remember the last question he asked and the

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<v Speaker 2>last statement that he said, No, they don't, No, they don't.

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<v Speaker 2>All that stuff you just said no, And then that's all.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the only reason that phrase even exists, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the last phrase you asked about and the answer you

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<v Speaker 2>gave no.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the only reason that no, white lives matter is

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<v Speaker 1>no period.

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<v Speaker 2>All that stuff you just said no.

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<v Speaker 1>So the point here is that oftentimes these statements are

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<v Speaker 1>rooted in the oppression, the subjugation, the silencing, the disenfranchisement

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<v Speaker 1>of marginalized people, in this case black people. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you were to pull black people similarly and say is

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<v Speaker 1>white power a concept you can get behind, you might

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<v Speaker 1>get similar results to this ras museen pole. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you pulled black people and ask them, do white

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<v Speaker 1>lives matter? In principle? The language absolutely? Is it okay

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<v Speaker 1>to be white? The language absolutely, But the spirit behind

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<v Speaker 1>the statement is something very different. Of course, it's okay

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<v Speaker 1>to be white. Of course, white lives matter. Like it's

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<v Speaker 1>the weirdest thing that sometimes we have to say that

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<v Speaker 1>to remind people like, yeah, we love human beings, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we just don't like the spirit behind these things, these

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<v Speaker 1>statements that rise up in opposition to the group that

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<v Speaker 1>really needs the affirmations. It's not even thinly veiled racism.

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<v Speaker 1>It is out loud, in front, in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the street racism. And you know, far be it from

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<v Speaker 1>me to call something that when it's not, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>what it is. But when it is there, it is,

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<v Speaker 1>call it. What else am I supposed to say? There

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<v Speaker 1>has never been a need to even ask a question,

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<v Speaker 1>is it okay to be white to black people, as

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<v Speaker 1>though black people have some control over that that the

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<v Speaker 1>nature of the question is silly. But what they do

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<v Speaker 1>is they divorce the spirit of the statement from into

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<v Speaker 1>the language.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, They divorce the spirit of that intention.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what happened with this guy that does the

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<v Speaker 1>Dilbert thing because the media that has fed that to him,

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<v Speaker 1>in this case Rasmussen has not provided proper context.

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<v Speaker 2>Intentionally, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>And because of their right leaning nature, they're sowing additional division.

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<v Speaker 1>It may as well say, like I said, it may

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<v Speaker 1>as well say do you agree with the statement white power?

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<v Speaker 1>Because most folks are going to be like, no, do

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<v Speaker 1>we want white people to be empowered as human beings? Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>we want all human beings to be empowered. But that statement,

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<v Speaker 1>that particular phrase doesn't mean what you're trying to pass

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<v Speaker 1>it off as ras musen and you know that and

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<v Speaker 1>then mist and then this guy is particularly susceptible to

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<v Speaker 1>it because the world around him has told him that

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<v Speaker 1>he's losing as a result of very natural changes, human changes,

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<v Speaker 1>evolution of you know, population, culture, etc. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>looked up the definition of conservative and some of the synonyms.

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<v Speaker 1>One of them said stick in the mud, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like wow. I was like, whoa, And that's not mean.

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<v Speaker 1>You can look it up yourself. Stick in the mud

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<v Speaker 1>like I have. I don't want anything to change. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the only constant is change, sir, allow me to continue reading.

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<v Speaker 1>After receiving widespread pushback for his offensive rant, Adams described

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<v Speaker 1>himself as getting canceled, but cartoonists argued that he is

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<v Speaker 1>simply being held accountable for his remarks. Quote by Adams

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<v Speaker 1>saying he's been canceled. It's him not only owning up

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<v Speaker 1>to his responsibility for the things he has said and

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<v Speaker 1>the effect they have on other people, said Ward Sutton,

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<v Speaker 1>who has contributed illustrations to The New York Times, in

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<v Speaker 1>New Yorker and Rolling Stone. He goes on, he's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to turn himself in to a victim when he himself

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<v Speaker 1>has been a perpetrator of hate. Sudden added, he said

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<v Speaker 1>newspapers are not obligated to run Dilbert, and they have

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<v Speaker 1>the editorial right to cut ties with Adams if they

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<v Speaker 1>no longer want him as a voice in their paper.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, now, this next little piece comes from Yahoo.

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<v Speaker 1>Quote it's almost entirely white people that canceled me. It

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<v Speaker 1>might be entirely because they're the one that owned the

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<v Speaker 1>publishing companies and the newspapers, he told News Nations Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Cuomo in an interview. He goes on to say Black

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<v Speaker 1>America is actually completely fine, both conservative and liberal, if

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<v Speaker 1>they see the context, he added, citing people who contacted

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<v Speaker 1>him about the fiasco. In the wake of his controversial video.

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<v Speaker 1>Adams has stood by what he said and even received

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<v Speaker 1>support from people who are frustrated by what they call

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<v Speaker 1>cancel culture, including billionaire Elon Musk.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, so the guy who increased the use of

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<v Speaker 2>the N word by like five thousand of you got

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<v Speaker 2>support from him.

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<v Speaker 1>You see what I'm saying. So you're starting to see

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<v Speaker 1>these people who are very powerful, these people with voices,

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<v Speaker 1>these people who are influential, they have platforms, and they

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<v Speaker 1>really feel this way. And you, our listener, need to

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<v Speaker 1>know the context in case you don't have it, because

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<v Speaker 1>we feel like you might end up in places where

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<v Speaker 1>you can actually start to have important conversations and start

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<v Speaker 1>to shift the narrative at the dinner tables with your

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<v Speaker 1>family around Thanksgiving dinner, and you know, on road trips

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<v Speaker 1>with your friends from college that might maybe they grew

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<v Speaker 1>up a little different, you know, so understanding nuanced context,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and the opposite side of a conversation I

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<v Speaker 1>think fills in some really meaningful gaps. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>come back after a quick tick, but we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk more about Elon Musk and of course cities, folks,