1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of the Odd Couple podcasts. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday from seven 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 1: pm to ten pm Eastern four to seven Pacific on 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for The Odd 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: Couple at Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream us live 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Best of the Odd Couple. 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 3: Fresh off a Daniel Jones performance, he threw three interceptions 9 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 3: and fumble three times, losing twice. The culture like, we've 10 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 3: seen enough, this is the guy. Moving forward, We're gonna 11 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 3: trade two future first round picks to get a defensive back, 12 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 3: former All pro slip a little bit recently, but very good. Nonetheless, 13 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 3: Sauce Gardner from the New York Jetropolitans. 14 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 4: Sauce go into the cult. So does that mean that 15 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:02,639 Speaker 4: Jets are going boneless wings? Now here we go? 16 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 3: They're they were but naked wings. Sauce Gardner again to 17 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 3: the Colts. Colts City two first round picks. Back to 18 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 3: the Jets. 19 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 4: All right, Carrie, is this on? That thing is on? 20 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 4: It's hot. It's hot, it's hot. Rob the Colts, what 21 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 4: are you doing? Are you crazy? My sugar? 22 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 5: Though you're buying into Daniel Jones, you think you got 23 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 5: a chance to do something, win a Super Bowl or 24 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 5: make some run. 25 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 4: Have you seen him against the good teams? I've seen 26 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 4: him against the bad teams. The good teams not so good. 27 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 5: He's coming off of god awful three fumbles, three interceptions, 28 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 5: Danny Dimes? 29 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 4: Are you kidding me? More like Danny Pennies. 30 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 5: And if I had to touch his performance from Sunday, 31 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 5: I'd have to wash my hand. 32 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 4: Daniel Jones is a. 33 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 5: Three dollar bill, playing and simple. He will not get 34 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 5: you where you want. You're kidding yourself. You're mortgaging like 35 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 5: you got a chance to come out of the AFC 36 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 5: and you got some magical formula. Let's go and let's 37 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 5: load up, and we're going to buy into Daniel Jones. 38 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 5: You have to understand he was available for a reason. No, 39 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 5: you didn't look up as the Minnesota Vikings, who. 40 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 4: Had an unbelievable year with sam. 41 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 5: Ronald McDonald's and then the playoff game came right the 42 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 5: last game of the season against the Lions to win 43 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 5: the division, which makes a big difference between playing on 44 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 5: a playing a playoff game or or having to buy 45 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 5: and host in the next round. 46 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 4: It's a huge game. What the bed? 47 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 5: Then in the playoff game, what the bed? And they decided, okay, 48 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 5: you know what. Thanks and Daniel Jones. 49 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 4: The best I can do. 50 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 5: Is maybe maybe look at him and think, this is 51 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 5: what they did in Seattle when they grabbed uh, when 52 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 5: they went and they decided that they were gonna get 53 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 5: Gino's pizza, and they thought that that was gonna turn 54 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 5: their fortunes around. And guess what he played well his 55 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 5: first year. Look at him now, he was so great 56 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 5: they couldn't they moved on, made the trade, right and 57 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 5: look at where he is in Seattle in Las Vegas. 58 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 5: If you feel honestly like you have something going and 59 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 5: you want to load up, I understand the thinking, Yes 60 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 5: I do, But Carrie, I'm sorry. I'm not giving up 61 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 5: the future for Daniel Jones. When the two toughest teams 62 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 5: he played, he played awful against, and go look at 63 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 5: who they've beaten. That's why I have an issue with it. 64 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 5: You will not be playing bad teams in the postseason. 65 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 4: Right, all right? 66 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 6: If this was the rant when the season started and 67 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 6: they took and they took sauce and they did all 68 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 6: this before the season started, I'd agree with you. Right now, 69 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 6: the Colts are the number one team in AFC. They 70 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 6: haven't had any success in years they've tasted success. Daniel 71 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 6: Jones has been great except for this last week. I'm 72 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 6: going to side on the on the side of it 73 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 6: was an abberration last week. 74 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 4: He's not gonna play like that. He's gonna play better. 75 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 6: He has another MVP candidate in the backfield to take 76 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 6: some of the pressure off of Jonathan Taylor. 77 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 4: If you're the Colts, this is the right move. 78 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 6: You go out, you go get some players that can 79 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 6: come in and really get this thing rolling in the 80 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 6: direction you want. And specifically this year, there are no 81 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 6: top seeds in AFC that's a guaranteed to win the 82 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 6: championship this year and past years we knew the players 83 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 6: were this year, we have no idea. Right now, they're 84 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 6: number one in AFC. Daniel Jones is playing well, and 85 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 6: before the season started I thought he was I thought 86 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 6: he was gonna be a backup in Indianapolis in his 87 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 6: career is going to be over. 88 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 4: The resurgence that he's had this year. 89 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 6: The way he's played, the way he's looked sans last 90 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 6: week has just been remarkable. Rob, So I'm not with 91 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 6: you on this take. I think the Coats going out 92 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 6: to get a guy like Gardner to come in both 93 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 6: of that defense. 94 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 5: They go to the AFC Championship carrier? Man, are they 95 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 5: I'm asking you, what are you mean? 96 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 4: Are they? Are they going to the FC Championship game? 97 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 4: They have a good chance? What are you asking me? 98 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 4: I'm asking you? Are they going? 99 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 2: They? 100 00:05:55,720 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 5: Just you got Daniel Jones, you got the Jonathan Taylor right, and. 101 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 4: You got you got Tyler Warren and you got Sauce Gardener? 102 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 4: Now right? 103 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 5: Are they going to the AFC Championship Game the Colts? No, 104 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 5: that's yes. 105 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 7: No. 106 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 6: I can't answer that because I don't know. You're not 107 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 6: putting me on the spot and say yes there because 108 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 6: I don't know you because I don't know. 109 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 4: Can't mean right now? 110 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 5: What ki't means unable to you on the air, Rob Listen, 111 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 5: can't means unable to You are not pressing me to say. 112 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 6: The Coasts are going to but right now making the 113 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 6: move or bringing in Sauce and giving away two first 114 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 6: round picks that don't mean nothing right now? Is the 115 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 6: move for the Coats to go out and try to 116 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 6: win this thing. So are they are their minds and 117 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,839 Speaker 6: their hearts in the right place, Rob, Yes, I'm gonna 118 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 6: say that, but I'm gonna let you make the proclamation 119 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 6: that they're not going. 120 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 4: So you're saying they're not going, and I'll give you this. 121 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 4: You ready, all right, let's go. When they played the 122 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 4: two best teams? What two best teams you're talking about? 123 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 4: They beat the Broncos, they beat the Charges? Who else 124 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 4: are you talking about? 125 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 5: I'm talking about against the Rams and steal? 126 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 6: Well the Rams wasn't his fall. They had a receiver 127 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 6: fumbled the ball in the end zone when I had 128 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 6: a chance to win. That's nice. 129 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 5: We could do that all day if you want to 130 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 5: do that, I could give you every game and say 131 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 5: if that didn't happen, to have that didn't have so 132 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 5: if Marshawn Lynch would have got. 133 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 4: The ball to goal lines, No, we could do that. 134 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 4: We could do that all the time. All right? What 135 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 4: you got? 136 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 5: And the losses two touchdowns, five interceptions, and he had 137 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 5: three fumbles this past week. He was okay, it was 138 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 5: really really bad. And then Rob G, can you go 139 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 5: over to the teams that he's beaten, Like, I'm just 140 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 5: I don't go there. 141 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 6: They beat the Chargers, they beat the Broncos, who are 142 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 6: two teams that are in the playoffs. 143 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 4: Who else did they beat? When he loaded up? They 144 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 4: got all these numbers. He beat the Dolphins. 145 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 3: Okay, beat the Broncos by one point. 146 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 4: You mentioned that. Okay, be the Titans by three scorers. 147 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 4: There you go terrible. Beat the Raiders by thirty. 148 00:07:53,240 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 3: Four, and go beat the Cardinals by four. It's the 149 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 3: Chargers by fourteen, by fourteen, and then beat the Titans 150 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 3: by twenty four. 151 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 4: It's a mirage, Kerry. Listen to those teams. I know, 152 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 4: I hear. 153 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 5: It's that is the worst of the worst. This is 154 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 5: where you lower yourself into being like, oh woll we're 155 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 5: good this year. No, you're not the Indianapolis Colts. You 156 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 5: deserve what you get from buying into Daniel Jones. You 157 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 5: know what, Daniel Jones gonna take you home dinner, maybe 158 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 5: a show, but it won't be the AFC Championship Game 159 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 5: eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox. Are you with 160 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 5: Kerry Rhodes? Are you buying into Daniel Jones? 161 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 4: I'm not. He's ful gayzy. He's a three dollar bill. 162 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 4: And if I shook his hand. 163 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 5: I'd have to check and see if I had all 164 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 5: five fingers. 165 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 4: When I pulled back. I'm not buying any of it. 166 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 4: I've seen his career. He didn't just show up. 167 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 5: He's got so much bad video and games. 168 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 4: There's not enough space on the internet to take a 169 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 4: look at it. Hey, I agree with you. I'm to 170 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 4: this point. Yes, I agree with you. 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We 186 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 5: just got more news. This story is bouncing all over 187 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 5: the place. 188 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, this seems like the ultimate spin zone depending on 189 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 3: who you talk to. 190 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 4: You I thought Bill O'Reilly was off TV. 191 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 3: So uh, last night, of course, after the big win 192 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 3: for Arizona, Jonathan Gannon head coaches asked about Kyler murray 193 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 3: status because he was requestionable coming into the game, Like, hey, 194 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 3: when he's healthy, is he's your quarterbacks? Yep, everything's the 195 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 3: same when he's healthy. 196 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 4: He's back. Yeah, So flash forward to today. 197 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 3: Gannon does a local radio interview in Phoenix with Burns 198 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 3: and Gambo and in the interview he says if Kyler Murray, 199 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 3: even if Kyler Murray was healthy, he was going to 200 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 3: make the decision to go with Jacoby present to his quarterback. 201 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 4: Great. About an hour later, he meets with the media, 202 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 4: Then he meets with the bat Riders. 203 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 3: Or he says, well, yes, Jacoby presaid is starting this 204 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 3: week here in week ten because Kyler Murray is still 205 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 3: working on his health. And uh, from then, you know, 206 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 3: we'll see what happens. So no commitment either way. Then 207 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 3: about an hour after that, Adam Schefter so apparently somebody 208 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 3: in the Carls organization yet cal Sif said let's send 209 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 3: let's send him a text, let's send him a call whatever. So, 210 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 3: now the initial injury was supposed to be week to week. 211 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 3: You know, he's only questionable. I believe it will be 212 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 3: like a week or two. Adam Schefter now reporting, well, 213 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 3: you know, his initial injury was actually a four to 214 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 3: eight week injury, which gives them the which gives them 215 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 3: the out now to say, hey, if we're not saying 216 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 3: we're benching him but he's not ready, that he's not ready. 217 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 4: Yes. 218 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 3: So, and then on top of that, Mike Florio Pro 219 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 3: Football Talk said, you know, they kind of wanted to 220 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 3: trade him at the deadline. It was just too much 221 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 3: moving parts and you know, it's hard and all that stuff. 222 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 3: But it is quote likely that he will be dealting 223 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 3: this offseason regardless of what happens. 224 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 5: I'm gonna say this, Carrie, if you want to move 225 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 5: off of him, fine, yeah, we're set that that's where 226 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 5: you're going. You No, I'm just I'm like seriously, like, 227 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 5: like stop, okay, because a guy, uh plays well for 228 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 5: a couple of You notice in the NFL there's plenty 229 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 5: of guys what was his name with the with the Dolphins, Fitzpatricks. 230 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 4: Every time, right, every time he put him in for 231 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 4: a couple of games. 232 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 5: Oh my god, magic f It's magic turn into a 233 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 5: pumpkin when they make him a starter? 234 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 4: Right? Who do we always say with Philadelphia, who won 235 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 4: you a Super Bowl? Nick Foles? How many times did 236 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 4: they give him the starting job? 237 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 5: Can't? Can't do it when it's time to be that guy. 238 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 5: It's easier to be right than starting, all right, and 239 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 5: being that guy with all the pressures are on you 240 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 5: and all this kind of stuff. And if they want 241 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 5: to move off of Colin, I have no issue with that. 242 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 5: But this is not if you're the coach and the 243 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 5: GM and this is your future or what you're doing here, 244 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 5: I don't understand it. Pun On Kyler Murray, no issue 245 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 5: with that if you really believe he's not that guy. 246 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 4: But don't sell this as if this is where you're going. 247 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 6: As my point, yeah, Rob, but they have to and 248 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 6: I'll tell you why they're they're on the short lease, Gannon. 249 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 6: His time can be up in there if they don't 250 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 6: hard to get some wins here, right, And so we're 251 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 6: just talking about in the interim right now. You're right, like, 252 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 6: if you want to punt on Kyler, then that's that's fine. 253 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 6: I'm talking about in this moment. Okay, win games. 254 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 4: Okay, So right now, da Kobe Bissett gives them the 255 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 4: best chance. 256 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 5: I okay, So now if he's playing, okay, you make 257 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 5: your move and they lose the next three or four games, 258 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 5: what do they look at you? I'm just saying sure, 259 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 5: as a coaching GM, now where are you? 260 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 4: They're out of there? 261 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 5: Okay, I'm just saying no that it's that simple, like 262 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 5: like this is what you're hit. You're pitching your He's 263 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 5: not even a top No, it was a fifth round pick. 264 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 5: He's a journeyman that you're better off with a Sam Darnold, 265 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 5: with a Danny Dimes. I'm dead seriously, like a fifth, 266 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 5: fifth round pick is now what you're hinging your wagon to. 267 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 5: I just don't. I don't see it. No, you're right, 268 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 5: I mean, and he's thirty two years old. There's no 269 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 5: future there n't. They don't have one. 270 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 3: Now. 271 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 4: By making this decision, what future do you have? You 272 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 4: have none? 273 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 5: You're hitching your wagon to a thirty two year old quarterback. 274 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 6: Yeah no, I know it's a no win, it's a 275 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 6: no win situation long term, but right now, the Cardinals 276 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 6: gotta win games or a Gannon's out of it, Well, 277 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 6: good luck. 278 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: I'm just saying Fox Sports Radio has the best sports 279 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 2: talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows 280 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 2: at Foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app 281 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 2: search FSR to listen live. 282 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 4: Rob g. 283 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 5: Ja Moran Like where his career he was supposed to? 284 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 5: Let's be honest, Like they was talking about face of 285 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 5: the league? 286 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 4: Am I right? Like he was of that ILK? Oh 287 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 4: my god, look at this guy? How good he is? 288 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 5: All the gun stuff and all this and now here 289 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 5: he is twenty six years old, Rob g And he 290 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 5: delivered to me a bombsh. 291 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 292 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 3: So he was just Gott suspended by the team for 293 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 3: one game for contract detrimental And if you'll recall they 294 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 3: were up by like fifteen points at half against the Lakers. 295 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 3: Something happened during halftime because he came out of the 296 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 3: second half standing around, moping around, at no interest in 297 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 3: playing at all. The Lakers ended up coming back and 298 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 3: winning that game. After the game, reporters asked like, hey, 299 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 3: what happened there? Second half? 300 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 2: Is is go? 301 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 3: Ask the coaching staff? And then at one point they 302 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 3: was asked what could the team have done differently? In 303 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 3: the second half to prevent blowing that lead. He says, 304 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 3: according to them, probably don't play me. Honestly, that's basically 305 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 3: the message was. Afterwards, that's cool, So they suspend him. 306 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 3: He comes back last night, has eighteen to ten and 307 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 3: a loss to Detroit. After the game, the reporters asking 308 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 3: more questions, being very short, not really answering anything. At 309 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 3: one point, a reporter asked them, Hey, John, do you 310 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 3: feel like you still have your usual joy for the 311 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 3: game of basketball? 312 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 4: No period? Carrie? 313 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 5: You know, yeah, if I'm ownership GM, I gotta make 314 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 5: a trade, even if I have to take pennies on 315 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 5: the dollar. I can't a twenty six year old rob 316 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 5: g how much does he make forty million? 317 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 2: Right? 318 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 4: Roughly? Can you find out? 319 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 5: But a twenty six year old in Memphis, Tennessee making 320 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 5: that kind of loop playing basketball and he's really good 321 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 5: at it. Yes, thirty nine point four are real close? 322 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 5: Thirty nine point four? 323 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 4: Huh? 324 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 5: And he looks you dead in the face and say 325 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 5: that he doesn't have joy in playing basketball. He can't 326 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 5: be on my team. I'm sorry. I don't think I'm 327 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 5: being harsh. You could be upset whatever to say that 328 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 5: you don't have joy to play basketball for a living 329 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 5: and wear an NBA uniform and all that. I think 330 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 5: you're I just think it's time to make a move. Yeah, 331 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 5: the joy part is squarely placed on him. He was 332 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 5: having joy, he was playing well, he was a high flyer, 333 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 5: his team was in the playoffs. He was making comments 334 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 5: a couple of years ago, we're good in the West. 335 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 5: Like we saw that joy and it was infectious, like 336 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 5: we all wanted him to do well. Yes, but the 337 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 5: joy losing, the joy part of it is self inflicted. 338 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 4: The team didn't do anything to put. 339 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 6: Himself in this situation with the stuff off off the court, 340 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 6: and now he's on the court. 341 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 4: Even when he's playing. He can't stay healthy at this point, 342 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 4: and so there are reasons for him saying that. But 343 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 4: as the leader of the team, leader of a franchise, 344 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 4: you cannot make those comments and expect everything to be okay. 345 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 5: I just don't know how I'm serious. Like, if I'm 346 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 5: on a team and this dude is saying he don't 347 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 5: have any joy playing, I'm following him. 348 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 4: No, that's the point, Like he's the leader. 349 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 6: You can't you cannot say that, and you cannot be 350 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 6: on the court doing what he did against the Lakers. 351 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 4: That's powdered your nine year old. That's a kid moving 352 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 4: for him. You're a professional basketball player. Yeah, I agree 353 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 4: with you on now. I would trade him as well. 354 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 6: But again, I don't even think the trade market is 355 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 6: hot right now for John Moran. I think a lot 356 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 6: of people are catching up to what we're talking about 357 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 6: right now. But there's somebody. There's always somebody, like people 358 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 6: I've heard forever. Oh, you can't trade James Harden's contract. Oh, 359 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 6: yes you can. You can't trade this guy, You can't. 360 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 6: Who's the guy I'm thinking about? Bradley Beal in Washington? Oh, 361 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 6: nobody will touch that. The Phoenix Suns touched it, right, 362 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 6: And now where is he? They traded him again, the Clippers. 363 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 6: So the idea that you can't move people or whatever. 364 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 6: And with John at least you know he's talented. Now 365 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 6: you're a GM or team, you're taking a big shot, 366 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 6: a big chance. 367 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 5: Rob. 368 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 6: I don't even it's crazy to say, but right now 369 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 6: he's twenty six and he's been injured so much. I 370 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 6: don't even know if he still has the same athletic 371 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 6: ability right now. And so for the decline, to be 372 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 6: that way for John Moran and not be as explosive 373 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,479 Speaker 6: at the moment. He can't shoot. He's not a consistent 374 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 6: shooter yet. So like, as a team that want to 375 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 6: trade for him, I mean, what are you trading for 376 00:18:59,680 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 6: him for. 377 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 5: You're trading that he's just very unhappy and not playing 378 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 5: up to the best of his ability. And you can 379 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 5: get it out of him, and we'll get it out 380 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 5: of him because he'll be happy to leave that place 381 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 5: that he feels like everybody's against him. 382 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 6: Now now he's going to be at that place and 383 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 6: it's going to be something that goes and he's not 384 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 6: going to be happy again. 385 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 5: I'm with you, And that's the chance you take if 386 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 5: you're a downtroden organization and got really nothing else cooking, 387 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 5: do you know what I mean? Like if you're I 388 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 5: don't know. I don't want to just be throwing off teams. 389 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 5: But there's some teams I'm just wis the Wizards. 390 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 4: How about Brooklyn? 391 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 5: Now with they don't have they have like a lot 392 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 5: of these young players, they don't have anybody Like seriously, 393 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 5: they don't even won a game yet, right, rob g 394 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 5: I they want a game? 395 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, so what you. 396 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 3: Just question for you because you say you want to 397 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 3: trade Joamra and I get it right because he's been 398 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 3: suspended now a couple of times. Just a quick backstory. 399 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 3: You don't remember first suspended March twenty twenty three for 400 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 3: eight games for going on Instagram live flashing the gun, 401 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 3: and then he did it again and that's when he 402 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 3: got smitted for twenty five games. So he didn't really 403 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 3: learn his lesson at that point. And if you recall, 404 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 3: while he was suspended, he had free twelve all over 405 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,400 Speaker 3: his social media, like, hey, I'm the victim here, all right. 406 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 3: That's one issue. The other issue something that Kerry talked about, 407 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 3: which is on the basketball court. When he first exploded 408 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 3: on the scene twenty twenty, he was at rim frequency 409 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 3: because at the rim high flying at dunking than everybody 410 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 3: was forty nine percent. This season, John Moran at rim 411 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 3: frequency twenty eight percent. So he does not attack the 412 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 3: rim like he used to do, right, And I'm not 413 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 3: I'm not disputing that you were right on the numbers. 414 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 4: Well here's the here's the other problem. But I'm not. 415 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 5: I'm not convinced that he's doing it because he can't 416 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 5: do it and he doesn't want to do well. 417 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 3: Okay, so if that's true, that's fine. Okay, here's the 418 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 3: other thing he can't do. If he's not going to 419 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 3: attack the rim, then you better be able to shoot 420 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 3: fourteen percent from three rob? What's so Westbrooks like Daan that. 421 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 4: I'm with you? 422 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 3: One James is shooting better than fourteen percent from three 423 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 3: rib I'm not. 424 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 5: I'm not disputing it, but you get my point. If 425 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 5: you want, if I. 426 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 4: If you want to get butts in the seats. 427 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 5: Right, and I'm saying yeah, and if you don't want 428 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 5: to do what you do best, right, so you kind 429 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 5: of shy away from that to kind of have a 430 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 5: downtrodden kind of game to punish the franchise. We're not 431 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 5: winning him. Okay, Well, I'm doing what I gotta do. 432 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:31,679 Speaker 5: I'm just saying. You remember the famous Kobe shooting too 433 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 5: much against the Sons? 434 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 4: You know that? 435 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 5: And what did he do in that game to Late Greade? 436 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 5: He played hot potato, right. He basically was like, Okay, 437 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 5: you're complaining about me shooting, Okay, here you go so much, Parker, 438 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 5: you shoot or well whoever it was, it was right, 439 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 5: and it didn't That didn't turn out well, So I'm 440 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 5: just saying I'm not convinced that he can't play. Is 441 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 5: it Is it a risk. It's a huge risk for 442 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 5: any GM or any team or whatever, So I get it. 443 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 5: It's it's not that easy