1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:02,719 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 2: We have an exciting podcast for you today because we 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: have Calli Means with us. He is the co founder 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 2: of True Med and you've seen him both and he 5 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: and his sister both on the show before. But now 6 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 2: life is a little bit different for Calli because he 7 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: has a very important role as a senior advisor to 8 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 2: the new Secretary of Health and Human Services, Robert Kennedy Junior. 9 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 1: Callie, thank you so much for joining me. 10 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 3: It's great to be her tutor. 11 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: Obviously, everybody is watching what's going on right now. We're 12 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,279 Speaker 2: seeing some cuts at the Health Agency. You're certainly going 13 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: to see attacks from the left on that. But I 14 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: think that a lot of this is what people were 15 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: looking for on a certain side of the aisle. 16 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 1: A man the right side of the aisle, for sure, 17 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 1: people are looking for this. 18 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: I think there are people that maybe on the left 19 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: side of the aisle are wondering exactly what that means. 20 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 2: But I think, you know, you guys have explained very 21 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: well that there is not only bloat, but also that 22 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: there has been a lot of stuff going on perhaps 23 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: in Health and Human Services that is not necessarily best 24 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 2: for our health. 25 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 4: Well, I think this shouldn't be a left right issue. 26 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 4: It should be readily apparent that the argument that the 27 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 4: left is now making that more spending and more staff 28 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 4: at HHS equals better health is just ridiculous. 29 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 3: We spend three to four. 30 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 4: Times more than European countries per capita on healthcare and 31 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 4: we're the sickest country in the developed world. We have 32 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 4: the most bloated bureaucratic healthcare system in the developed world 33 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 4: and where the worst. So what Bobby Kennedy with President 34 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 4: Trump are saying is that actually, more efficiency, more focus 35 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 4: on these health institutions doing their job is actually goes 36 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 4: hand in hand with better health. And I think clearly 37 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 4: when Maha Moms came out and voted in the twenty 38 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 4: twenty four election, they were not voting for more government bureaucrats. 39 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 4: They were actually voting to remove a lot of these 40 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 4: leaders at our healthcare agencies. 41 00:01:58,880 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 3: That just factual. 42 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 4: We have overseen an explosion of croc disease if Secretary 43 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 4: Kennedy and President Trump weren't making moves and installing proactively 44 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 4: great new people like Marty McCarey at the FDA and 45 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 4: Jay Bardishari at NIH who took over, who will take 46 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 4: over this week? 47 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 3: You know, then what did people vote for? 48 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 4: So I think everyone should be very encouraged by the 49 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 4: fact that we're making HHS more efficient and installing great 50 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 4: new people in there. 51 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,119 Speaker 2: Well, and when you say great new people, I think 52 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 2: that's the part that we want to focus on because 53 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 2: we have had so many questions about what is actually 54 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 2: in our food, what's actually in our drugs, And that's 55 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 2: something that obviously the Maha moms were saying, gosh, we've 56 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: got all of this food die. We saw Vonnie Harry 57 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: come out to Michigan and talk about the food dies. 58 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: Now we're seeing kind of on a state level, people 59 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: taking a different look at this. 60 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: I think it's fascinating. I think I've shared with you 61 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: before that my own. 62 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 2: Niece has had a situation with food dye where it 63 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: caused her to have ticks. She doesn't have any food die, 64 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: but it's almost impossible. I mean, it is shockingly difficult 65 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 2: to eat without food dye if you get food at 66 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: the local grocery store. You've seen a strange partnership with 67 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 2: the legislatures and the state wide level. 68 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: I think it was West Virginia. 69 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: That just said they're cutting food dye, So what does 70 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 2: that look like moving forward? 71 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 4: So I think the framework for Secretary Kennedy is that 72 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 4: he's laid out the problem of the explosion of childhood 73 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 4: ARCT disease in the campaign and rallied a lot of 74 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 4: people to come to the trunk fold. And now it's 75 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 4: time to execute power. And he's showing the playbook that 76 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 4: he's going to use. And part of that is state 77 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 4: federal partnerships. I mean, this administration really believes in federalism, 78 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 4: and I think one of the problems is you've had 79 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 4: these top down health mandates, top down food manates. I 80 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 4: think we remember Michelle Obama who was trying to impose 81 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 4: top down standards to school districts to not eat meat. 82 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 4: This is actually a much more bottoms up approach. And 83 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 4: where he started was that states oversea in many ways. 84 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 4: The food Stamp, the SNAP program, and that's the fourth 85 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 4: largest entitlement program. We've spend about one hundred and twenty 86 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 4: billion dollars to subsidize food a year for lower income folks. 87 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 4: The number one item on that program is soda, which 88 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 4: just is insane. I mean, before we get into any 89 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 4: divisive policy, we can all agree that we should not 90 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 4: be government subsidizing soda for lower income kids. Nobody's trying 91 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 4: to ban anything, but like these subsidies should be cut. 92 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 4: It's over ten billion dollars a year. The governors, it 93 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 4: turns out, can request waivers to adjust the snap ingredients, 94 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 4: and until the Trump administration, those waivers in requests have 95 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 4: been rejected by the federal government that's co opted by 96 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 4: big food money. So now that you have Secretary Kennedy 97 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 4: brook Rowlands in charge at the USDA, they've asked for 98 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 4: these waivers and states have stepped up. West Virginia, as 99 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 4: you mentioned, the most obese state in the country. Over 100 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 4: eighty percent of the of the state is overweight or obese. 101 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 4: The governor was being besieged by soda lobbyists and he 102 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 4: said no to them, and he stood up issued this 103 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 4: waiver and it was amazing. This event had you know, 104 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 4: thousands of Maha moms and he's been getting national attention. 105 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 3: He said, you know, I think what Secretary Kennedy has. 106 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 4: Is is the voters are really rewarding people that show courage, 107 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 4: and Secretary Kennedy is able to shine a light. So 108 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 4: the governors of Utah Arkansas of Louisiana and many other 109 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,679 Speaker 4: states on the list have followed suit. 110 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 3: So it's a really. 111 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 4: Cool example, and we can, I think, follow this playbook 112 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 4: when it comes to things like school lunches and other 113 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 4: programs where there's a federal state partnership. That's a big 114 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 4: message for this administration. Every single governor should be calling 115 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 4: Secretary Kennedy and figuring out how to make America healthy. 116 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 4: And I can promise these governors you're going to be rewarded. 117 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 4: You're going to be invited to the White House with 118 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 4: President Trump and Secretary Kennedy, be celebrated as a courageous governor, and. 119 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 3: We're going to make sure that the. 120 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 4: Political benefit you receive will outweigh the anger that the 121 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 4: soda lobbyists have behind closed doors. 122 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, but it goes beyond anger because this 123 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 2: is a lot of money, and that I think is 124 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: where people go, I don't understand how this happened. You know, 125 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: there's a massive amount of the public that says, how 126 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: could it be that the government that is an agency 127 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 2: that is supposed to protect our health could be bribed? 128 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 2: And that's something that we're going to be talking to 129 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 2: the author of No. More tears the dark Secrets of 130 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 2: Johnson and Johnson on Monday, and that's kind of when 131 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: you hear what he has to say, it's been kind 132 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 2: of shocking to see how much these corporations have bought government. 133 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: And they bought government essentially. And I mean that's essentially 134 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 2: what you were just saying talking about the governors being 135 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 2: brave and fighting against this. It's bravery because not only 136 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 2: do these lobbyists exist, but they own certain essentially people 137 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 2: in the government. 138 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is what I think so exciting about Secretary 139 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 4: Kennedy's tenure is that this corruption, I'm sure you've seen 140 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 4: a lot of it, and this influence, it's peddling, this 141 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 4: corporate capture, it's been able to hide behind closed doors. 142 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 4: You know, it's been able to hide in these secret 143 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 4: meetings where you know, truly for the past twenty thirty years, 144 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 4: you've had time and time again, soda lobbyists able to 145 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 4: keep this ten billion dollar subsidy from the food stamp 146 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 4: program to coke. It actually makes no sense. And what's 147 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 4: happening now is there's a light being shined. I mean, 148 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 4: you have the American Heart Association, the American Heart Association 149 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 4: come into Texas with a lobbyist and argue for soda 150 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 4: on snap And this has been actually happening for twenty years. 151 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 4: If you go to the American Heart Association's website, which 152 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 4: is a group that sets the standard of care for 153 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 4: cardiology in the country, they're top donors are all food companies, 154 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 4: millions of dollars. They're a paid lobbyist for food companies. 155 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 4: And I've seen this early in my career. They've gone 156 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 4: to state capitals for the past twenty years and argued 157 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 4: for terrible policies like this. But now they come they 158 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 4: make this argument. They don't realize it's twenty twenty five, 159 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 4: but President Trump's in charge, the Secretary kids. 160 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 3: In charge, and that video got tens of millions of views. Immediately. 161 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 4: You just had Andrew Huberman the Top Healthcare podcast are 162 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 4: talking about it. So the American Heart Association actually had 163 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 4: the reverse course. They said it was a mistake, but 164 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 4: it was not a mistake. They've been lobbying for food 165 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 4: companies for decades, but they're finally getting caught. So that's 166 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 4: an interesting dynamic. You know, when I was starting with 167 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 4: Bobby Kennedy and chatting with the truck folks about two 168 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 4: years ago and really wanting to get this issue more 169 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 4: front and center. A lot of lawmakers told me, we 170 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 4: care about this issue, but the phones aren't ringing off 171 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 4: the hook. This isn't a grassroots issue. This idea of 172 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 4: showed himself. We're getting a lot of calls. 173 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 1: That's so crazy. 174 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 3: Two years ago, there wasn't this. There was clearly this 175 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 3: frustration of moms. 176 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 4: There was clearly this care about what's happening to chric 177 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 4: disease you've heard about on the podcast. People will grab it, 178 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 4: but it wasn't politically organized. There weren't phones ringing off 179 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 4: the hook. 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Well, we saw how 212 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 2: many people came out here to go protest at Kellogg 213 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 2: and it is a big deal on those podcasts, like 214 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 2: you said, and I think that's something that the left 215 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: hadn't anticipated, and as we see them kind of melting down. 216 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 2: It's interesting because if you look at the breakdown of 217 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 2: talk online, the online podcasts that are right leaning have 218 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 2: about a half a billion followers. On the left leaning side, 219 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 2: it's one hundred million. You know, that's a massive differences, 220 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 2: and that's I think what we saw in the election. 221 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 2: But that's what we see with public health because people 222 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 2: are now saying, oh, my gosh, were we lied to? 223 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 2: And based on what I'm learning from you and from 224 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 2: Gardner Harris and from some other folks, is that, yeah, 225 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 2: we were actually lied to in like major ways. 226 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: We were lied to. 227 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: And I take this personally because it goes beyond just 228 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 2: the food that we're putting in our systems. 229 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 1: It also goes to the drugs that we're putting in 230 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: our systems. 231 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 2: And I think that's also something that Secretary Kennedy is 232 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 2: very concerned with, and the way these drugs were approved, 233 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 2: even though they have a lot of clinical trials that 234 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: are showing that they actually aren't doing what the people 235 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 2: what the organization and the corporation is saying that they're doing. 236 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: It goes beyond that. I mean, there's so much. 237 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 2: I look at what I read in this book, what 238 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 2: I've seen on podcasts, what you've said, and I think 239 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 2: to myself, how do they get it all done. 240 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: One thing that shocked me when. 241 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 2: I had this conversation that will air on Monday was 242 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 2: medical devices have no tracking system. Medical devices that go 243 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 2: into your body have no tracking system. And it just 244 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 2: by chance came up because it was we were talking 245 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 2: about how Johnson and Johnson had put this MESSI into 246 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: women that was destroying their bodies. And I said, you know, 247 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 2: it's interesting because when I had when I had my 248 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 2: reconstructive surgery after breast cancer, they put these breasts I 249 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 2: plants in that they said that I then read were 250 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 2: causing cancer. And I called my doctor at Johns Hopkins. 251 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 2: He goes, oh, yeah, you should have those taken out. 252 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 2: And I said, but you know, now that I think 253 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: about it, no one called me. And he said, we 254 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 2: have no way of tracking in the United States, but 255 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 2: other countries do. We have no way of tracking. I 256 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 2: mean it's like if Kellogg's has to recall something, we 257 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 2: all get a notice. But if you have to recall 258 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 2: a hip replacement or a breast implant, or anything that 259 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 2: goes into a human body. 260 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: You don't know about it. 261 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 3: This is all by design. 262 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 4: Would I always go to when we talk about dysfunctional 263 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 4: healthcare system is or people talk about how bad the 264 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 4: websites are to sign up, you know, all the different frustrating. 265 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,439 Speaker 4: You know how non transparent payment is. A lot of 266 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 4: people talk, Oh, this could be so much better. It's 267 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 4: this is the largest industry in the country is healthcare. 268 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 4: Healthcare is the largest and fastest strong industry in the country. 269 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 4: It's the most employed industry in the country. It's something 270 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 4: consistently is the same way. It's because the invisible hand 271 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 4: of the system wants it that way, and and the 272 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 4: system benefits from a completely obfiscated, non transparent system. 273 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 3: So I think that's why it's so important. 274 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 4: You know what President Trump and Bobby Kennedy had talked about, 275 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 4: which is like the step one of mahas just giving 276 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 4: patients the truth. He Secretary Kennedy said. With the cuts, 277 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 4: literally departments at HHS, different agencies sell data to each other, 278 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 4: they protect their own data between different agencies. The degree 279 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 4: of dysfunction of healthcare system is beyond human comprehension. 280 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: It is. 281 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 2: That is what's so shocking to me, because I'm reading 282 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 2: about this stuff and I think to myself, the only 283 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: place I've heard about this where a company can get 284 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 2: away with poisoning you or putting a defective device inside 285 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 2: of your body would be like China or Russia, where 286 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 2: there wouldn't be a massive news organization that comes out 287 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: and says no. 288 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: But the reason we also have pharmaceutical ads. 289 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 2: So the media is funded by the bad guy in 290 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: many cases. And I'm not saying that all pharmaceutical companies 291 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 2: are bad, because I don't believe that, but to be clear, 292 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 2: there are people, there are bad actors who get to 293 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: use their leverage, their funding, leverage over the media to 294 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: stop any bad press from coming out. So if there 295 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 2: is a product that is no good, if there is, 296 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 2: I mean, even when you go through the details of 297 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 2: the JAY and J vaccine. 298 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: For COVID, there was so much hidden. 299 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 2: And I want to mention there's a guy that is 300 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: making news today, Peter Stein. He's a top of fish 301 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 2: that was at the Food and Drug Administration. 302 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: He was let go. 303 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: His job was to oversee the reviewers that evaluate the 304 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 2: new drugs and people. So this is news now, you know, 305 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 2: because people are like, oh my gosh, they got rid 306 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 2: of this guy. 307 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: And here it's at the same time when next week. 308 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 2: This book is going to hit, people are going to 309 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 2: find out that there have been drugs. 310 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: That have been approved with no record of efficacy and 311 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: in fact the opposite. 312 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 2: A record of death in the in the clinical trials. 313 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 2: And to me, in some of these cases, I'm like, 314 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 2: these people are getting pressed because they're being let go. 315 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 2: I'm wondering if they should be getting pressed because they 316 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 2: should be under investigation. 317 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 318 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 4: So this is breathless coverage right now of Peter Marx, 319 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 4: who's the FDA top science, the top scientists, the FDA 320 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 4: the top vaccine regulator. 321 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 3: When you read the front. 322 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 4: Pages of every publication today, it's an attack on science. 323 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 3: It's how can this possibly how can secretary? 324 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 4: Can they possibly treat the pharmaceutical industry this poorly? Now, 325 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 4: I totally agree with you. There's good people the pharmaceutical industry. 326 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 4: We should have a thriving pharmaceutical industry. What I try 327 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 4: to do is just step back to the just overarching 328 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 4: incentives of our healthcare system, which nobody can argue make 329 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 4: money when more people are sick. The pharmaceutical industry, the 330 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 4: hospital industry, even the insurance industry. 331 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 3: They make money when there's more sickness in America. That's 332 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 3: just a fact. 333 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 4: And that incentive has totally captured our institutions and. 334 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 3: Wars evident, no more, No, there was no clearer. 335 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 4: Evidence of that than this guy, Peter Marx. You know, 336 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 4: over his tenure as being the top science that day 337 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 4: since twenty twelve, he time and time and time again 338 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 4: overruled scientists of the FDA in favor of pharma. I mean, 339 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 4: one example is that in twenty twenty, the two top 340 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 4: vaccine scientists at the FDA, we're raising some concerns about 341 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 4: the Code vaccine, particularly around whether it should be mandated 342 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 4: to soldiers. He pushed those two vaccine scientists out and 343 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 4: said they were bringing transud it. 344 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 3: This guy has no background in vaccines. 345 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 4: He has somebodies at a muscular dystrophy drug company which 346 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 4: the FDA Expert Advisory Panel said caused massive ToxS and 347 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 4: loads and liver issues. 348 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 3: He approved that. 349 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 4: Drug against advice, and now that drug has caused death 350 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 4: recently for a young person of liver failure and is 351 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 4: being recalled. There's many, many instances like this where he 352 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 4: did pharma's bid in for whatever reason, went against the 353 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 4: expert opinion and the drug ended up being recalled. And 354 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 4: there was another case with an Alzheimer's strug which caused damage. 355 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 4: So these are the type of people at the FDA, 356 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 4: And for whatever reason, when we have the highest rates 357 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 4: of diabetes o VC, we're the top in the world 358 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 4: in cancer rates two hundred twelve countries, we are the 359 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 4: worst cancer it's in the world of any country. We're 360 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 4: basically towards the worst or worst and almost every currencies rate. 361 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 4: And then the media acts surprised and offended when we 362 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 4: change personnel. So this is what Secretary Kennedy really is 363 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 4: fighting against. And I think what the America people need 364 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 4: to understand when they see one of those articles. 365 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 3: I've talked about this a lot. 366 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 4: The reason there are pharmaceutical ads and basically when you're 367 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 4: watching cable news now, it's essentially a long pharmaceutical infomercial. 368 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 4: You basically have sky Rizzi commercials interspersed with the newscasters 369 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 4: talking about how great the latest farmer drug is. 370 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 3: So that's an effort to buy the news itself. 371 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, well and then you so then you have 372 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 2: a situation where you can't actually tell the truth on 373 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 2: these Stay tuned. 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Again, that's 409 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 2: Genucel dot com slash Dixon. Stay tuned, we'll be right back. 410 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: It's been interesting to watch Secretary Kennedy because this isn't 411 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 2: a power struggle for him, This isn't a money grab. 412 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: He has said four years, this is truly who he is. 413 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 2: I want to end childhood chronic disease, and I think 414 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 2: ending childhood chronic disease ultimately goes into adulthood too, because 415 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 2: those kids are. 416 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: Going to grow up. I mean, our generation. 417 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 2: Grew up on foods that were unhealthy, on medications that 418 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 2: were being given at a moment, too many medications. I mean, 419 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 2: we now have the most depressed society with the most 420 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 2: depressive depression medications. And what we were talking about, what 421 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 2: you'll hear us talking about on Monday, is that oftentimes, 422 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 2: once one of these drugs gets passed by the FDA, 423 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 2: it's very hard to ever have it reviewed. Even if 424 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 2: there is information coming back saying this isn't effective, it 425 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 2: just stays as an approved drug. And then you've got 426 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 2: these drug salesmen from the pharmaceutical companies that are pushing it, pushing, 427 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 2: and keep pushing it and keep pushing it with the doctors. 428 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 2: So you have that, but you also have kids with 429 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 2: fatty livers. We've really never seen that before. I mean 430 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 2: that was my doctor was talking to me about the show. 431 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we've got these kids with fatty livers now. 432 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 2: And I will tell you just the striking difference when 433 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 2: I go. I went to a choir festival last week 434 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 2: and the kids came out, and the striking amount of 435 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 2: children who are in middle school who are really considerably 436 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: overweight and these are not. It's not like, you know, 437 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 2: all those kids parents just don't care. I don't believe 438 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 2: that for a second. I believe that it is very 439 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 2: It is a struggle to get foods that are healthy 440 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 2: for our kids right now, because I believe that the 441 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 2: reason we're seeing this is that the food is causing 442 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 2: this problem what our kids are ingesting. 443 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 1: But it's not just that. 444 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,919 Speaker 2: I will say, also, doctors want to put kids on 445 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 2: antidepressants immediately that cause them to gain weight? 446 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: How can this also be? Why is there no oversight 447 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: over this? 448 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 4: So you're getting me very fired up here, and honestly, 449 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 4: like I get emotional thinking about this because because we're 450 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 4: working right now on a report the President Trump has 451 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 4: asked for in an executive order, which is to really 452 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 4: analyze what's causing this chronic disease crisis, analyze the trends 453 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 4: of child to chroract disease on analyze how the US 454 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 4: compares to other countries. And we've solicited input from experts 455 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 4: around the country. And our initial notes, which is simply 456 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 4: bullet points of statistics, is fifteen hundred pages and I 457 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 4: just turned to a random page and it's shocking statistics 458 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 4: about child and a chronic disease. This report is going 459 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 4: to just shock the country, and it's just. 460 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 3: Shocking how we got here. And I think that's. 461 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 4: Why, you know, millions of moms and independents and young 462 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 4: people who would probably four years ago never considered voting 463 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 4: Trump came to Trump for the first time because Bobby 464 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 4: really awakened that issue. 465 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 3: So the Trump administration is really going to lay out 466 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 3: this problem. 467 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 4: It's going to be the first government administration history to 468 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 4: really call this stuff out. Because actually, it's interesting seeing 469 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 4: these policy debates, there's really a lot of lobbying pressure 470 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 4: to not even release the truth. Like actually explicitly explicitly 471 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 4: what food companies and pharmer companies argue is it's not 472 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 4: even policy. 473 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 3: They're literally like it's going to hurt us to release 474 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 3: that data. 475 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 4: So I think one thing Bobby, Secretary Kennedy and President 476 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 4: making clear is so we can have policy debates, but 477 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 4: we're not going to take lobbying input on releasing transparency 478 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 4: data to the American people. That ship has sailed, so. 479 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 3: They're going to take goodness, you know. I think what's 480 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 3: so powerful is Secretary of Kennedy has power. 481 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 4: Now he has his hand on top of the largest 482 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 4: department in government. It's actually, ah just the largest by 483 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 4: budget government department in the world. 484 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 3: And he's going to be able to do these things 485 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 3: like the Snap reform. 486 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 4: He issued a guidance on baby formula that we're going 487 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 4: to immediately figure out why baby formulas so dysfunctional in 488 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 4: the United States, make America the leading country for baby formula. 489 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 4: He issued this ruling on the grass standards of the FDA. 490 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 4: Right now, we have self fully seeing our food. You 491 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 4: talked to Bonnie about this. We don't even know what's 492 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 4: in our food. The food dies are in there because 493 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 4: the food industry is able to put them in without 494 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 4: even checking, you know, whether you're conservative or liberal. Complete 495 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 4: self policicing wild West, where literally the government doesn't even 496 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 4: understand what's in our food and there's no studies on 497 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 4: the chemicals and our food. I mean that that doesn't 498 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 4: make any sense even just from a basic transparency standpoint. 499 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 4: So so Bobby Kennedy, day after day is announcing these 500 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,239 Speaker 4: actual actions, and you know, I think this system's been 501 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 4: rigged by you know, thousands of small steps. And I 502 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 4: think if we can just get this momentum on actions 503 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 4: that Secretary Kenny's taking again and again and again, in 504 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 4: four years, we're going to be amazed with how different 505 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 4: the system looks. One that isn't so callous about you know, 506 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 4: children's disease, about vaccine injuries, about the food we're putting 507 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 4: in our kids' mouths. 508 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 3: I mean, we've just become immune to all these issues. 509 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 4: And I think I think we're gonna have much different 510 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 4: culture in four years if we keep it up well. 511 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,719 Speaker 2: And I think that the shocking thing and moms in 512 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 2: America has been to hear folks like you come out 513 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 2: and say, you know, it's not like this in Europe. 514 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: They're not allowed to do this. Wait a minute, what why? 515 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 4: Ronnie Harry food Babe has become one of my best 516 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 4: friends and my unslicited thoughts to her as always you know, 517 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 4: she holds up the ingredient list between the US and Europe, 518 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 4: and you know, it's three ingredients in McDonald's fries in 519 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 4: Europe in seventeen here and then the fruit loopsky have, 520 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 4: you know in Europe, but watermelon juice and beet juices 521 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 4: and carriat juice, and here it's crude oil derived you know, substances, 522 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 4: a bunch of other chemicals that they don't have in Europe. 523 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 4: I tell Fannie, just like, hold those up until the 524 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 4: end of time. Like the European comparisons are so powerful 525 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 4: because I don't want to give Europe much credit, and 526 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 4: they frankly don't have a. 527 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 3: Very good healthcare system. 528 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 4: They have inviolable, like inefficient socialist systems in a lot 529 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 4: of ways. The point is it's not about the intricacies 530 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 4: of health policy. We have a cultural and almost corporate 531 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 4: cronyism corruption issue where we just have such powerful interests 532 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 4: that are predicated on you know, cheap, addictive food and 533 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 4: then and then sick care. And and that's one thing 534 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 4: this report is going to have, the presidential report, there's 535 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 4: there's going to be over one hundred comparisons between Europe, 536 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 4: you know, from everything from you know, the vaccine schedule 537 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 4: to school lunches, to pharmaceutical prescription guidelines, you know, to 538 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 4: standards for kids on exercise. We are like an order 539 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 4: of magnitude off, you know, not even mentioning that. You know, 540 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 4: A big one is pesticide use. I mean, again, a 541 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 4: lot of discussions to have a lot of policies to 542 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 4: talk about. These are complicated issues, but we should know 543 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 4: the truth. We should know the truth that the US 544 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 4: is dramatically an outlier on things like pesticides. We have 545 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 4: worse pesticize standards than China. You know, these developing countries 546 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 4: can afford the disease. 547 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 3: And sickness and poisoning at their population. 548 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 4: So we actually have some of the worst standards for 549 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 4: some of these things actually in the developed or developing world. 550 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 2: As our healthcare system gets bigger, we have to be 551 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 2: recognizing the fact that that means people are getting sicker. 552 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: It is really sick care. 553 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 2: It's trying to treat symptoms, and as you treat symptoms, 554 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 2: you get more and it just keeps continuing to blow up. 555 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 2: I look forward to that report, I really really do, 556 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 2: because I mean, just from what you're saying, school lunches. 557 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 2: We just got to notice from the school saying, you know, 558 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 2: we're complying with all of the state requirements. And I 559 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 2: love our school, but our kids have cinnamon rolls at 560 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 2: lunch and Bosco sticks and they were so concerned with 561 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 2: the Bosco sticks having that mazzarella and they had to 562 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 2: teach the extra extra help at lunch CPR because and 563 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 2: the Heimlich maneuver because of that instead of getting healthy. 564 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing that blows my mind, you know. 565 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 2: And so I look at that and I say, man, 566 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: what will we do with school lunches? And you brought 567 00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 2: up formula I just like baby formula not being filled 568 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 2: with nutrients. It's shocking. So we definitely look forward to 569 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 2: that report. We're so glad that you are where you 570 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 2: are right now. I mean I remember months ago interviewing 571 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 2: you and thinking where could this man go and how 572 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 2: can he help us? And there you are as a 573 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 2: senior advisor in Health and Human Services, And it just 574 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 2: brings tears to my eyes because we're so proud of you. 575 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: Kelly means, thank you so much, thanks. 576 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 3: For all you do. 577 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 2: Yep, thanks for coming on the podcast, and thank you 578 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 2: all for listening. 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