WEBVTT - the 764 Network 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.600 From the dark corners of the web, an emerging mindset. 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:06.000 I'm a loser if also we know what to day 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:06.760 me either a. 0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:11.040 Hidden world of resentment, cynicism, anger against women at a 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:14.480 deadly tipping point. In Cells will be added to the 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:15.640 terrorism Guide. 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:18.600 I see literally zero hope. 0:00:18.920 --> 0:00:24.080 This is in Cells, a production of KT's Studios and iHeartRadio, 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:30.480 Season one, episode seven, the seven six' Four. 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:36.080 Network, certainly when you live stream your, attack you're making 0:00:36.120 --> 0:00:40.680 yourself easier to, catch so they care more about getting 0:00:40.680 --> 0:00:43.239 the message out there than they do about getting a. 0:00:43.280 --> 0:00:47.480 Wave the judge Describe bennington's messages to his victims as, 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:50.279 repeated cruel and. 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:52.560 Sadistic i'll read you one more. 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:57.000 Quote women have a fantasy of being, stocked, raped held, 0:00:57.040 --> 0:00:57.600 hostage and. 0:00:57.680 --> 0:00:59.279 Murdered they wish they were. 0:00:59.360 --> 0:01:04.560 Victims I'm Courtney, armstrong a producer AT Kati studios With Stephanie, 0:01:04.640 --> 0:01:11.360 Leidecker Gabriel, Castillo Connor, powell And Carolyn. Miller trigger. Warning 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:14.880 we're going to hear about a nihilist group called seven six.' 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:18.399 FOUR the fbi classifies this group as a high, level 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:24.520 threat and there are graphic descriptors of. Child exploitation this 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:27.679 episode takes a deep dive INSIDE The Us. Attorney's Office 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:31.800 david ryan speaks with unique authority as someone who's been 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:35.800 in the trenches working with victims. ON cases a former 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:38.760 chief Of The National security division At The United States 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:42.559 attorney's Office In, Los angeles david offers an inside look 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:46.280 at how these crimes are investigated and prosecuted. 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:49.840 At The United States attorney's office Here In. Los angeles 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:52.400 we Have A National, security DIVISION and i was the 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:55.520 chief Of That National, security division and we've invested in 0:01:55.600 --> 0:02:00.200 prosecute cases that involve domestic. International terrorism we all so 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:04.120 investing and prosecute, cyber intrusions, cyber hacking. 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:08.120 Cyber stocking you mentioned an increase in online threats and 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:10.640 in cyber stocking in the past ten years. Or so 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:13.679 what did that look like in your world of, your 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:16.440 job and then are there any sort of theories on. 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:21.959 The, increase yes starting in around, twenty fifteen over the past, 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:24.359 ten years there has been an increase in. These cases 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:28.000 there are a couple of different aspects. To that one 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:33.399 is the increase in threats involving, anti government, anti authority. 0:02:33.560 --> 0:02:38.799 Violent extremism we saw the rise of threats and stalking 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:43.799 and swatting schemes committed by people engaged in, other ideologies 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:47.400 whether that's what are these gender based violent ideologies like 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:51.120 in sell or. Other, IDEOLOGIES so i think as more 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:54.680 and more of the world moved online and into, social 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:59.520 media we saw that coincide with just arise in that 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:00.480 sort of criminal. 0:03:00.520 --> 0:03:04.840 Threatening activity do you think globally people are becoming more 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:08.600 prone to being radicalized because they're hearing so much more 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:08.800 of the. 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:13.840 Same content we have had several cases where individuals were, 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:19.160 radicalized online whether on forums like discord or gab Or, 0:03:19.200 --> 0:03:25.200 four chan where they were exposed to increasingly extremist ideas. 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:29.760 And ideologies maybe it starts as exploring what they would 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:34.239 call it edgy or extreme or gore content that's more 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:38.360 in a fantasy context or a, joking context and then 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:42.160 over time it moves more and more towards reality. 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:46.880 For them how do you determine the Difference between i'm 0:03:46.880 --> 0:03:50.200 a fourteen year old joking with my Buds and i'm? 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:51.480 A threat how does that even? 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:55.720 Be determined certainly there is a Line Between first amendment 0:03:55.760 --> 0:04:01.200 protected activity and. Criminal activity law enforcement gets involved when 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:05.880 somebody crosses that line and starts directly threatening or harassing 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:09.520 or stocking or. Victimizing somebody now there's a separate set 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:13.040 of facts where a person may be discussing a crime 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:16.000 that they seek to commit in. The future we IN 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:19.160 the fbi would would aggressively start to look into that 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:22.760 to determine whether they've crossed the line from thinking about 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:25.960 committing an attack to actually attempting to. Do so in, 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:29.599 the law a person can be prosecuted for attempting to 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:31.960 carry out an attack like that if they take some 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:35.880 substantial step Towards committing so a challenge in this, area is, 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:39.960 you know if someone engages in discussion of what they 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:45.120 would like to do and fantasizes online about committing a 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:47.760 shooting at, a school, for example you know that alone 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:50.120 is not a. Criminal, act well when they start taking 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:53.360 steps to carry, it out that's law enforcement can. Step them? 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:56.239 Got it that seems like it's a scary. 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:59.600 Small window the one thing THAT the fbi has been. 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:01.760 Public about one thing that we have seen is that 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:03.960 the window of time between what we would call the 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:08.920 radicalization to the mobilization has been shrinking over the last. 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:12.560 Several years so the time between when someone becomes radicalized 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:14.960 and starts expressing that they want to carry. Out violence 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:17.960 between that point and when they actually mobilize to carry out, 0:05:18.000 --> 0:05:20.800 the violence that period of time has. Been shrinked so 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:23.719 we used to see if you look at, successful attackers 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:25.960 the time between when they started talking about when they 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:28.280 did it would be maybe a period. Of months now 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:30.800 you're seeing that time shrink to less, than that maybe weeks, 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:32.880 or days which again just lessens the time for law 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:36.040 enforcement for members of the community see that activity and 0:05:36.120 --> 0:05:37.679 put law enforcement and position. 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:38.360 TO stop. 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:44.520 I asked david why he thought, that trolling deliberately posting 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:48.240 provocative messages with the goal of upsetting someone is so 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:52.200 prevalent in general within in. Cell groups if. 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:54.360 You go to the more extreme version of, the ideology 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:57.920 the ideology does hold that through the development, of feminism 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:00.560 women have gained too much agency and power or in 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:04.600 the so called, sexual marketplace and the right quote unquote 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:08.480 way would instead be that men should control that MARKETS 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:11.800 and i think a lot of, the again the social 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:14.799 currency that you can gain within that community is from 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:18.039 speaking that. Into existence this is how we would talk 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:20.720 if we ran, The world we should run. The World. 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:26.160 The Center For Countering digital hate reported that post mentioning 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:29.679 rape were ON major insul forums every twenty, nine minutes 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:33.440 and that eighty nine percent of posts in relevant discussion 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:38.680 boards supported sexual violence. AGAINST women, I asked david has thoughts. 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:44.400 The more extreme version of the ideology would sanction seek 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:48.400 to legalize rape? Sexual assault the more extreme version of 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:53.880 the ideology valorizes prior members who have committed mass shootings 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:58.080 of women or at sororities or at, Mail salons so, 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:01.040 you know in, that context it's not so that within 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:05.640 that community they would valorize for, joke about, or discuss, 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:08.800 you know in a, positive way, committing violence, sexual violence 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:10.080 or otherwise. Against Her. 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:16.200 David ryan breaks down one disturbing CASE and insul in 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:20.520 his Thirties Named, carl bennington who targeted and cyberstocked multiple 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:24.240 teenage girls he. Met online he threatened violence and even 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:29.240 death if they refused his demands. For sex david explains. The, case. 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:37.640 So mister bennington had been messaging several teenage girls repeatedly 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:41.680 and aggressively for, several years and then certain of those 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:44.960 victims reached out to, law enforcement and we began investigating 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.800 him out of our office for at least. Four years 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:51.400 what we learned was That mister bennington had become increasingly 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:56.160 consumed by in cell ideology and he began to act 0:07:56.200 --> 0:08:01.160 out that ideology towards these. Individual victims the evidence that 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:06.200 we obtained was that he had gone from seeking relationships with, 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:10.160 these children, you know teenage girls two when they, rejected 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:14.240 him demanding that they have a sexual relationship, with him 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:17.280 and then when they rejected, him again ultimately turning to 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:21.920 threatening graphically to commit acts of violence and sexual assault 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:23.480 against them and. 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:24.680 THEIR families. 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:28.920 I Asked, how bennington in his thirties at, the time 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:30.440 first encountered these. 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:34.360 Underage girls this is not a group like there are 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:39.240 some others where they primarily congregate in invite only chat 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:43.600 groups where victims are. Lured to in cells often reach 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:46.240 their victims as, he did just by reaching out on 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:50.440 traditional social, media platforms and initially they reach out in 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:53.720 potentially a friendly way because they're interested in trying to develop, 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:58.000 a relationship and when things turn south is when the 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:02.120 girl or woman declines and then they become. Increasingly aggressive 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:05.960 it can become a federal case as well when threats 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.880 are communicated over, the internet and when stalking is called. 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:14.640 Cyber stocking when you stalk someone online through repeated and harassing. 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:16.320 Internet messaging. 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:21.240 The indictment contains Specific writing, bennington posted as well as 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:26.559 messages he sent directly to the. Underage Girls david ryan 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:28.880 read some of the posts so you can understand the 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:32.599 level of violence and even death threats these girls. Were facing. 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:36.600 There are a few messages that really highlight what his, 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:40.080 ideology Was and i'll read you those. As well bennington 0:09:40.400 --> 0:09:42.320 he was what you may call in the in cell 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:45.520 community blue or maybe, red pilled which is that he 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:49.600 was focused on what he would call alpha. Male ideology 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:54.240 he was focused on the notion that women desired men 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:59.520 who are dominating and almost a caricature. 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:00.760 Of what he would quote unquote. 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:04.920 Alpha male shortly before some of the worst threats in, 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:08.440 this case he wrote online quote women's narcissism has been 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:10.920 getting out. Of hand they need to be put back 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:14.200 in their. Fucking place. Fuck women shortly, after that, he 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:17.320 wrote feminists are a man hating group where they want 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:21.040 to take away our confidence and turn us into, some insecure. 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:23.480 Emotional douchebag i'll read you one. 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:27.800 More quote women have a fantasy of, being, stocked raped, 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:28.640 held hostage. 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:30.280 And murdered they wish they. 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:33.800 Were victims then he started writing to the victims quote 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:35.000 don't fucking. 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:35.920 Squirm or you'll get. 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:38.599 SLAPPED around i own, you now and you're gonna DO 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:41.480 as i Say because I'm. Fucking god and he sent 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:43.800 that along with a picture of a woman with her. 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:48.839 Hands tied so hatred of feminism and a belief that 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:52.760 the quote alpha male was the ideal to. Strive for 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:56.600 this is him flirting in, his worldview and going between 0:10:56.600 --> 0:10:58.120 flirting and then being angry that it's. 0:10:58.120 --> 0:10:58.960 NOT working. 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:05.079 I asked how, this illegal offensive and violent language could 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:08.800 be misconstrued as flirting. By anyone. 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:14.520 There's that spectrum where they haven't quote unquote given up 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:20.079 on trying to adopt this caricature. Of masculinity they are 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:25.400 playing out the view that this is what, should work 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:31.480 that this sort of, hyper aggressive persistent pursuit is actually what, 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:36.160 should work and there's teaching within the so called manosphere along. 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:39.679 THOSE lines i think there's also a view that men 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:43.600 are entitled to the woman that. They want in one 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:47.280 of his, direct messages, He wrote i'm outside your window. 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:50.080 Watching you you better be on. The lookout if you 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:52.680 know what's good, for You only god can. Save you 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:56.480 slut dog or bark, for me you. Little slut based 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:59.040 on the training they've received and based on, their worldview 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:01.439 they are entitled, to success and maybe they should be 0:12:01.520 --> 0:12:04.320 having success in the fact that there instead experiencing rejection 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:05.120 will lead. 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:09.560 To anger outside of these, horrifying messages we Asked if 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:13.280 bennington showed any kind of pattern or warning science beyond the, 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:19.439 cyberstalking itself anything that suggested he might escalate to. Physical violence. 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:25.640 First, of all these threats already provoke terror and fear 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:29.439 to the victims and, their families and he and others 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:33.880 have been and will continue to be properly prosecuted for 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:37.880 the damage they're causing through their online cyber stocking. And 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:43.079 threats with respect to going from online threats to, physical, 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:46.839 violence yes. It's concerning when he demonstrated that he knew 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:49.679 where these victims lived and that he had the ability 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:53.920 to go to. Their houses when he began talking to 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:57.719 them about being outside of their house or being outside of, 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:00.440 their bedroom regardless of whether he was, or wasn't that 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:03.240 indicates that in, his mind that's where he was going. 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:06.080 To it and then other things that we in law. 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:10.600 Enforcement would look at are things like an individual's access, 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:16.280 to weapons ability, to travel, criminal history prior acts, of 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:20.680 violence and. Other indicators, and, then finally depending on the 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:24.400 level of insight we have into, an individual often in 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:29.640 cells carry out mass, casualty attacks do post or something like, 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:33.480 a manifesto either publicly or share. With, friends tragically we 0:13:33.559 --> 0:13:36.679 often learn about that only shortly before or after they 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:37.080 carry out. 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:41.160 An attack there does seem like there is a proliferation 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:48.319 of people posting manifestos or publicly sharing. This information any 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:51.679 thoughts on why people are publicly SAYING now i am 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:53.480 planning on doing THIS or i just. 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:56.560 Did, THIS yeah, i mean that's been something that's been 0:13:56.600 --> 0:14:01.199 consistent for a long time in iologically, motived violence and 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:05.080 these individuals are clear that they are committing an attack 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:08.559 with the goal of both putting their view out there 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:12.880 to inspire others who are like minded to follow their 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:17.560 lead and trying to expose the broader community to their 0:14:17.640 --> 0:14:20.400 worldview which they would like other people, to understand if. 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:23.000 Not adopt and in the insul context as well, as 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:26.640 others may have been somewhat successful at that where every 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:30.880 successive attacker cites a prior attacker as a part of, 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:33.720 their inspiration which raises an interesting CHALLENGE for i think, 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:37.520 the community for, more broadly of how to cover and 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:42.200 talk about, these attacks because the communities of people who 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:45.960 are like minded certainly valorized and draw inspiration from the 0:14:46.000 --> 0:14:46.800 amount of attention that. 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:49.440 They receive it seems like bad guys used to want 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:53.000 to hide their crimes versus live stream them or leave 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:54.680 evidence publicly all over. 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:58.760 Social, media certainly when you live stream, your attack you're 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:02.760 making yourself. To catch so, THE inference i think is 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:06.720 fair that they care more about getting the message out 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:09.640 there than they do about getting. A laved so certainly 0:15:09.680 --> 0:15:12.520 the public messaging in the attempt to create a certain 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:16.400 media narrative is central to. Their motivation but in a 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:20.320 case where we are looking into someone before they've committed a, 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:24.520 physical attack if we see anything indicating their hope or 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:27.640 desire to become a martyr or what they would say 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:31.080 an insult to go er meaning to follow in the 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:33.520 Footsteps Of, elliott roger, you know that would be a 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:35.800 reference to committing, an attack and that would heighten. 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:36.479 The concern. 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:40.560 Let's stop here for. A break we'll be back in. 0:15:40.600 --> 0:16:06.680 A Moment david ryan explained that In the, bennington case 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:11.240 investigators learned he had access to weapons, And transportation he owned, 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:14.080 a car had, some money and knew where his. Victims 0:16:14.160 --> 0:16:16.840 lived david continues. 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:21.160 He did not have all of, the indicators so he 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:24.760 did not seem To Idolize. Elliott roger at one point, 0:16:24.800 --> 0:16:28.080 he wrote Actually that roger was weak for having turned 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:31.120 to violence rather than bettering himself and following the quote 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:34.520 unquote alpha rules that he was trying, to follow and 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:37.520 that again is consistent with the sort of the divide 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:39.680 or the range within the in cell community of someone 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:42.600 who's not yet blackpilled, would say you don't need to 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:47.200 resort to mass violence or the destruction. Of society you 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:52.760 can follow these rules or follow these systems to better quote. 0:16:52.800 --> 0:16:56.760 Unquote yourself and those are twisted rules and twisted systems 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:57.360 like what he. 0:16:57.600 --> 0:16:58.239 Was showing. 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:06.000 The Judge describe bennington's messages to his victims, as repeated cruel. And, 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:10.840 sadistic ultimately the case never went. To trial bennington pleaded 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:15.560 guilty to two counts. Of Cyberstalking david ryan explained that 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:18.840 one of the primary purposes of sentencing is to protect 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:22.600 the public from future crimes by. The defendant in, This 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:26.800 case bennington served eighteen months. In prison his sentence also 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:30.560 included three years of residential mental, health treatment a no 0:17:30.800 --> 0:17:34.280 contact order with, his victims as well as search conditions 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:38.760 allowing law enforcement to monitor his home. And devices david 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:42.080 explains what role he believed social media companies should play 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:44.120 in assisting. Law enforcement. 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:50.399 It is a federal crime to write, threatening messages to 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:53.879 send threats to individuals on social. Media platforms it's a 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:59.000 federal crime, to, stalk harass or intimidate. Someone online so 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:03.639 these messages that he was sending were, criminal acts just 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:10.080 as sending illicit child pornography or other contraband through these 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:12.480 social media platforms would be a crime that would be 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:16.399 prohibited on. These sites so it gets perfectly appropriate that 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:19.960 these sites have policies and algorithms in place to ensure 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:23.760 that people are not using them to commit. Federal crimes in, 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:27.320 this case a challenge is his accounts were deleted and 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:30.720 he made, new ones but that's certainly better than no action. 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:34.640 Being taken it is very difficult and can, be traumatizing 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:37.879 and it's something for parents to be aware of. 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:38.640 As well. 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:44.359 David updated us on the victims in this case and 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:47.600 on the impact of their courage and coming forward. 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:51.040 It was a very positive thing for the victims in 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:53.680 this case to have the prosecution go forward and to 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:57.040 have this defendant not only in capacitated for a couple, 0:18:57.119 --> 0:19:00.000 of years but then receive a significant amount of mentame 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:02.119 health treatment so that they can move on with. Their 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:06.440 Lives and i'm sure it was scary for them to 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:08.920 come forward, because people first, of all maybe don't want 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:11.520 to come forward and involve themselves with, law enforcement or 0:19:11.960 --> 0:19:15.280 maybe worry that they will further provoke this person who 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:19.280 is unstable and acting violently. Toward them they also likely 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:23.280 saved countless other girls and women from having to experience 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:26.560 similar or worse harm from, This defendant AND so i 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:28.919 think it's it's not just a brave thing, they did 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:31.119 but a heroic thing that they did to come forward 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:31.960 and get this. 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:35.680 Case done is there anything that you would say to 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:40.480 a parent if your child or yourself are, being victimized 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:43.040 or if you think someone in, your life, your son, 0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:44.600 your nephew is going down. 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:49.960 This, PATH well i think if someone's experiencing this activity 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:52.639 targeted at them or their friend or, FAMILY member i 0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:55.879 think one lesson is to understand that it. 0:19:55.960 --> 0:19:56.960 May not just go away on. 0:19:57.080 --> 0:20:01.320 Its own and that it can escalate they. Feel rejection 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:06.520 and so if someone does receive sort of messages that 0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:11.000 starts to cross the line and suggests that either threatening 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:16.000 or obsessive infatuation that makes them feel uncomfortable, or nervous 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:18.040 that they should reach out to the local police department 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:19.919 or they can reach out TO. The fbi but if 0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:22.040 they feel that they're in any sort, of danger the 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:24.280 first step is always to reach out to the local. 0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:28.760 Police department federal criminal prosecutions are made every day based 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:32.280 on law enforcement and prosecutors identifying who's behind. The keyboard 0:20:32.480 --> 0:20:34.800 so people who think they can hide behind the keyboard 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:38.159 and commit crimes and victimize, people online that's not. The 0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:41.760 case and so for those who are experience that, as victims. 0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:44.440 Rest assured if you do reach out to, law enforcement 0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:47.720 we may be able to come in. And help and as, 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:52.600 a prosecutor our primary goal is to disrupt criminal activity 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:58.040 before new victims, are created and we can't always, do 0:20:58.200 --> 0:21:01.200 that but when we are, able too it is often 0:21:01.320 --> 0:21:05.320 because someone in the life of, that person either the 0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:09.879 offender or, a victim came forward to law enforcement, And, 0:21:09.960 --> 0:21:12.359 said hey something is not right HERE and i just 0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:16.280 can't encourage, the public and parents and friends of children 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:19.520 who are experiencing this sort of conduct can enchuras them 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:22.760 strongly enough to make that outreach if something doesn't seem. 0:21:22.920 --> 0:21:23.560 Quite right. 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:29.600 In Speaking With, david ryan the conversation turned to something 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:32.720 none of us had heard, of before the seven six. 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:39.000 Four group The FBI's Child Exploitation Operational Unit Chief abigail boccaccio, 0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:43.480 has said people are not understanding the severity the speed 0:21:43.640 --> 0:21:47.880 at which their children can. Become victimized these are offenders 0:21:47.920 --> 0:21:50.280 that have the ability to change your child's life in 0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:53.800 a matter. Of minutes we've said, this before but want 0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:57.120 to be. Absolutely clear we are not suggesting that all 0:21:57.320 --> 0:22:01.360 in cells, are violent nor are the in cell community 0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:04.879 with groups like seven six. Y four they are distinct. And, 0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:09.280 different however when we heard about, this newer highly dangerous, 0:22:09.320 --> 0:22:13.200 online network it became a matter of. Public concern sharing 0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:18.080 this information isn't, about fear it's about awareness. And Prevention david, 0:22:18.160 --> 0:22:19.719 ryan explains. 0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:24.440 Seven sixty four is a more recent, threat stream and 0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:28.280 certain of the CASES that i have been involved in 0:22:28.600 --> 0:22:31.280 our ongoing in the sense that the defendants have not 0:22:31.440 --> 0:22:36.000 been sentenced over the last, several years we've seen an 0:22:36.160 --> 0:22:40.600 increase in criminal activity from what we call the seven six. 0:22:40.680 --> 0:22:46.119 Four group that criminal activity has primarily involved what we, 0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:51.080 put exploitation meaning the sexual exploitation of. Children online the 0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:54.680 most common way that has played out is members of 0:22:54.760 --> 0:22:59.160 this group condregating, online forums Typically on discord or, other 0:22:59.280 --> 0:23:03.280 platforms where they can maintain control over a check group 0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:07.000 where they can invite users, exclude users and then within 0:23:07.080 --> 0:23:09.720 the group they can have live, video chats they can 0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:13.920 stream or send, video recordings and within, those groups the 0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:17.560 individuals participating in the seven six four network have essentially 0:23:18.000 --> 0:23:22.720 helped train each other on how to groom children to 0:23:23.000 --> 0:23:27.760 provide them with videos and photographs of themselves engaging in. 0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:32.600 Sexual activities once they have those videos, or photographs the 0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:36.600 playbook is that the seven six four members will then 0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:41.320 use those videos and photographs to blackmail the children to 0:23:41.480 --> 0:23:45.520 provide more by threatening them with exposing the photos and 0:23:45.600 --> 0:23:47.000 videos that they've. Already gotten. 0:23:50.880 --> 0:23:53.600 The network was founded in twenty twenty One By Bradley, 0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:59.000 chance cadenhead a Teenager, From. Stephanville texas the name seven 0:23:59.080 --> 0:24:01.840 six y four come from the first three digits of his. 0:24:01.960 --> 0:24:06.119 Zip code caden had extorted miners forcing his victims to produce, 0:24:06.200 --> 0:24:10.760 pornographic material engage in animal cruelty and. Self harm his 0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:13.960 motivations appear to include a desire for status, and power 0:24:14.400 --> 0:24:19.080 referring to himself as being a. God Online on, may 0:24:19.119 --> 0:24:22.040 sixteenth twenty, twenty three he was sentenced to eighty years. 0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:26.119 In prison after, Reviewing evidence the judge presiding over the 0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:30.200 Case addressed cadenhead saying there is something horribly wrong. With 0:24:30.359 --> 0:24:34.520 You Horribly david. RYAN continues. 0:24:36.280 --> 0:24:39.560 A unique piece for this group is they appear to 0:24:39.600 --> 0:24:45.480