1 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Is this a great game or what with the Hall 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: of Famer Tim Kirkshin. I'm his son, Jeff Kirkshin. And 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: it's a big week in Major League Baseball because we 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: have the trade deadline, buyers and sellers, the sprint to 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 1: the finish. So we're gonna get to all of that, 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: of course, But Dad, I want to look back at 7 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: what was an incredible induction weekend in Cooper Sound that 8 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: you got to be at. 9 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 2: As a member as well. 10 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: Congratulations, it must be cool going back since twenty twenty 11 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: two when you were inducted. Now every year Hall of 12 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: Famer Tim Kirkshin walking around. 13 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not why I go back, Jeff, Why. 14 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 2: You go back what I'm saying. It's cool, isn't it. 15 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: Yes, it's very cool, But we're not We're the most 16 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: You are painfully humble, a right like it. It's frustratingly humble. 17 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: And I love you and it's such a great quality 18 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: of yourself. But just tell me right now, it's kind 19 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: of cool to be a Hall of Famer. 20 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 3: I'm not a Hall of Famer. I was honored by 21 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame. The players are the Hall of Famers, 22 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,319 Speaker 3: at least that's the way it's explained to me. Can 23 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 3: we please move on here? I want Here's what happened, Jef. 24 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 3: This is so this is so typical of the Hall 25 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 3: of Fame. And you've been there multiple times. You've been 26 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 3: to the Oda Saga Hotel. You know, no matter where 27 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 3: you go, there's no telling who you might run into. Okay. 28 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 3: So I walked into the Oda Saga for the first 29 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 3: time on Friday, you know, big weekend. Friday is a 30 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 3: really big day there. And literally three seconds after I 31 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 3: walk in Tony cal Ripkin Junior and Ken Griffy Junior, 32 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 3: the two greatest juniors, by the way, ever to play 33 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 3: in the major leagues. They walk around the corner together 34 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 3: and I'm thinking, oh my goodness, these are the first 35 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 3: two guys I run into. So Ripken sits down. I 36 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 3: just casually ask him, so, how's everything going. What you've 37 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 3: been doing lately? And he said, I just got back 38 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 3: from an African safari. Okay, and he and his what 39 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 3: he and his white went on an African safari and 40 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 3: had the greatest time ever. So here's what he said. 41 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 3: And I did not understand this. He said, it was 42 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 3: so great. We saw the Big five animals within the 43 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: first twelve hours. Now, do you know what the first 44 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 3: the big five animals are on an African safari? You 45 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 3: want to take a guess, because I got a couple 46 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 3: of them wrong. 47 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let me think it's got to be the lion, one, elephant, 48 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: two giraffe. Not. 49 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 3: I was surprised by that. Really, giraffe wouldn't be yeh. Look, 50 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 3: I'm not doing the rankings here, Jeff. This isn't the 51 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 3: best of all Tim's safari team. Okay, all right? 52 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:49,399 Speaker 1: Rhino rhino, Yes, it brings me shades of ace Ventura 53 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: right now, I don't I don't know what else it 54 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: would be. 55 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 2: Giraffe is not one? An antelope? 56 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 3: Now think of your your brother in law on Kelly's side. Buffalo, right, buffalo? 57 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 2: And what's the last one? 58 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 3: Last one is a leopard? Okay? So Cal Jr. Is 59 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 3: driving around in an He showed me the truck in 60 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 3: which he's driving around in and it's a jeep and 61 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 3: it doesn't have any doors on it. And I said, 62 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 3: how close did you come to a lion? And he 63 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 3: points to the ground like two feet away and he 64 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 3: said that closed. I said, I'm talking to the Iron Man. 65 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: Who didn't miss a game for sixteen years. And I 66 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: asked if he was afraid. He goes, no, we were 67 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 3: with the guides that they knew what they were doing. Jeff, 68 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 3: I'm not going on a safari, okay. I'm not going 69 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 3: where there's a lion two feet away from me and 70 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 3: I don't have an armored I'm not sitting inside of 71 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 3: an armored car. Are you doing that? Dad? 72 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: You're not going. 73 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: You got afraid when you took me to see Lion 74 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: King in movie theaters. 75 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: Do you think you're Do you think you're gonna be okay? 76 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 3: Jeff, I'm a chicken. I'm good with dogs. Every other 77 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 3: animal not so good. And again, when that snake showed 78 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 3: up at our house was it was like an anacon 79 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 3: that came to the front door and I ran for 80 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 3: the hills. Yes, I'm the biggest chicken in the world, 81 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 3: but at least we've established the Big five. So while 82 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 3: we're talking about this, Ken Griffy Junior is listening. He 83 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 3: takes out his phone and he shows us. He says, 84 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:31,799 Speaker 3: I have fourteen hundred pictures from his safari African safari, 85 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 3: but not fourteen hundred total, fourteen hundred pictures Jeff of 86 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 3: a catch and kill in the wild. I can't. I 87 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 3: think a will to beast was involved. And the pictures 88 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,799 Speaker 3: were stunningly good because Ken Griffy Junior is really good 89 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 3: at this. But I couldn't look at those for more 90 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 3: than like five seconds before I was just completely grossed out. 91 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 3: But it just shows you that Here I walk into 92 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 3: baseball Mecca, the ODIs Hotel, two of the greatest players 93 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 3: of all time walk around the corner, and all we're 94 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 3: talking about is the Safari, which I don't know anything about, 95 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 3: and I have no interest in going on because I'm 96 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 3: a big chicken. 97 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, and chickens would not do well in the African safari, right, absolutely, 98 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: lotim of the food chain, right. 99 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 3: So, Jeff Again, then wherever you go, you just keep 100 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 3: running into people who have an interesting tory to tell. 101 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 3: So I saw Mike Schmidt who met you at the 102 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 3: Oda Saga and had a twenty minute chat with Mike 103 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 3: Schmidt the greatest third Basement of all time on the 104 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 3: veranda because you had just moved to Philadelphia. Correct. Yeah. 105 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: I talked to him about country music and country music 106 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: radio in Philly, and he was it was a highlight 107 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: for sure. 108 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 3: Well, well, he told me a story that I said, 109 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 3: how's everything going here? And this is Mike Schmidt, who 110 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 3: understands how the world works. But he goes, yeah, last night, 111 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 3: Carlton Fisk and I, you know, one of the five 112 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 3: greatest catchers maybe of all time. He said, we saw 113 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 3: each Row, and I whispered to Carlton Fist, Hey, do 114 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 3: you think we should go get a picture with him? 115 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 3: And you're Mike schmidd, You're the greatest third basement of 116 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 3: all time. You're with Carlton Fisk. You don't need permission 117 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 3: to go ask each Row if you could have a 118 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 3: picture with him. Look, you and I would ask permission, 119 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 3: and I would say no because that's a conflict of 120 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 3: interest for me. But I just found it odd. Do 121 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 3: you find it odd at all that Mike Schmidt was 122 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 3: just a little bit hesitant to go up to one 123 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 3: of the newest Hall of Famers. 124 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's a game recognizing game dad. 125 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: They recognize how good he was in his prime and 126 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: how deserving he is to be in the Hall of Fame. 127 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 2: Mind you, I. 128 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: Saw a list of every player that has three hundred 129 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: hits or more in their career, right, the three thousand 130 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: hit club, right, And on that list it was here's 131 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: how many hits all of these players had before they 132 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: turned twenty six. 133 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 2: And then at the very bottom is each row with 134 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 2: zero zero. 135 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 3: Right. Yes, Jeff, look, I'm not disputing the greatness of 136 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 3: each row. I'm just saying, when you're in the club, 137 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 3: you would think you could go up to anyone in 138 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 3: the club and just say, can I have a picture 139 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 3: with you? So Mike Schmidt goes up to each row, 140 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 3: shakes his hand and says or bows to him and says, 141 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 3: I'm Mike Schmidt, and each row, with tremendous reverence, goes 142 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 3: like this, oh my like that. That that's how Hall 143 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 3: of Famers look at each other. And maybe that's exactly 144 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 3: the way that Mike Schmidt was looking at each row. 145 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 3: You know, ten gold gloves like Mike Schmidt had, you know, 146 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 3: ten straight two hundred hit seasons all that. So I 147 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 3: just thought that was pretty cool. 148 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 2: That is an also amazing. 149 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 3: I was out at the golf course. I'd love to 150 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 3: hang out at the golf course at the Oda Saga 151 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 3: outside the Oda Saga, the leather Stocking golf course which 152 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 3: you played maybe your greatest round ever on Jeff, it 153 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 3: was really you played great that day. 154 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 2: Not surely my best back nine of all time. 155 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: I think I pard six or seven holes on the 156 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: back nine. I had a really good round. 157 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 3: Right So, Ozzie Smith was sitting next to Mike Schmidt. 158 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 3: How great is that? So I'm sitting at a table 159 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 3: with the greatest defensive shortstop of all time and the 160 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 3: greatest third basement of all time, and we're just talking 161 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 3: about golf. So I said to Ozzie switch hitter, where 162 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 3: you you played right handed? He goes, yes, because you 163 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 3: know it's a right handed game. So we got to 164 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 3: talking about that, and Mike Schmidt then looks at me 165 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 3: and I got such a kick out of this, and 166 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 3: he goes, well, baseball is a left hand game, And 167 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 3: he said, how many advantages do you get being a 168 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 3: left handed hitter? He said, it's ridiculous. He goes, there 169 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 3: are so many more right handed pitchers, so you have 170 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 3: an advantage there. Plus you have like a two step 171 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 3: advantage getting to first base left hand left handed hitters 172 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 3: haven't made. Mike Schmidt looked at me and he was 173 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 3: kid but he wasn't completely kidding when he said this. 174 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 3: He said, this is what I would This is how 175 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 3: I would change the game. Every other inning. Instead of 176 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 3: running to first base when you hit it, you run 177 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 3: to third base when you hit it. So in the 178 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 3: odd number innings, you run to first. In the eve, 179 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 3: in the even numbered innings, you run to third. That way, 180 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 3: the right handed hitter has an advantage running to first. 181 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 3: And oz Ozzie Smith had the funniest look on his face, 182 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 3: and he just looked at me and looked at Schmitty 183 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 3: and he goes, this is way too big for me. 184 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 3: That's what he said. And I said, Schmitty, this is 185 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 3: way too big for me. Also, I just got to 186 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 3: kick that. There we are in a golf tournament and 187 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 3: the greatest third basement of all time is talking about 188 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 3: running to third base instead of the first base. Was right? 189 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: What it looks like in a t ball game when 190 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: the kid runs to the wrong Major league baseball is 191 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 1: going to be. 192 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,479 Speaker 3: I think you did that when you were four, and 193 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 3: it was funny. Then I'm not sure sure it would 194 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 3: be funny on the major league level. So that those 195 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 3: were just a few things, just a few things that 196 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 3: I saw in Cooperstown, Jeff, I saw a million other things. 197 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 3: But it's just the greatest place in the world. And 198 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 3: I don't want to be corny about this. It's just 199 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,319 Speaker 3: absurdly charming there. And if you haven't been, you have 200 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,719 Speaker 3: to go. And you don't have to go during Hall 201 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 3: of Fame weekend because it's crowded and it's hot. But 202 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 3: if you want to just go up there and spend 203 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 3: three or four days seeing everything in that town, and 204 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 3: go there in March, or go there in September or October, 205 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 3: it's absolutely breathtaking. 206 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: Dad, let's jump into the takeaways. I'm assuming some of 207 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: which are to do with the speeches of famers. 208 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 3: Yes, i have to go take something out of the oven. 209 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 3: I'm not kidding. I'll be right back, Okay, I'm. 210 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: Going to keep this in, all right, So this is 211 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: a good time. 212 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: I'm keeping all of this in. Dad is literally going 213 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: downstairs to put take something out of the oven. 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As 224 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: soon as you sit in your car or going on 225 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: your walk, or rowing your lawn, wherever you listen to 226 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: the podcast, it'll automatically be kind of ready on your phone, 227 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: which is really really cool fun. 228 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 2: He's back, okay, Jeff, All right, perfect, Dad. 229 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: I didn't even cut I just told everybody how they 230 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: can support the show. And so you saying that you 231 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: had to go get something out of the oven is 232 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: going to be in what did you have to get 233 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: out of the oven? 234 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 3: I got some turkey bacon out of the oven. I 235 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 3: haven't had a piece of bread, Jeff, not exaggerating in 236 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 3: a month. So I am making a bacon. I'm making 237 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 3: a BLT today using turkey bacon. 238 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 2: Well, I think I have you beat. I know I 239 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 2: have you beat. 240 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: I haven't had a piece of bread since June first. 241 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 1: I've gone two months. 242 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 2: Almost now, no dairy and no gluten, Dad. 243 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: But I will say I went to Jersey Mike's yesterday 244 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: they serve a gluten free bun really and it was listen, 245 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: is it as good as their baked bread? No, let's 246 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: let me put it out there. You can't beat bread 247 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: with something that's not bread, Okay, you just. 248 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 3: Can't do it. 249 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: But it was pretty darn good. 250 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: And I've had quite a few gluten free sandwiches bread rolls, 251 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: and this is by far the best. So I got 252 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: it Mike's way, and they doused it with the juice 253 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: as they call it, so it could kind of soak 254 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: the bread a little bit better. 255 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 2: Recommend check it out, Dad, serious. 256 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 3: Right, well, I'm making a belt on my own today 257 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 3: and it's going to be great, I hope. 258 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: All right, let's go into the takeaway. Can't wait to 259 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: see photos of the blt after. 260 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 3: Right, well, Jeff, again, the takeaways are still We're just 261 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 3: going to go quickly back to the Hall of Fame. 262 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 3: The each Row speech was tremendous because he did it 263 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 3: in English, which was to the surprise of nobody, because 264 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 3: he's a really smart guy and he understood English when 265 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 3: he came here, you know, twenty five years ago. I'll 266 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 3: never forget, Jeff, the first interview that I did with 267 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 3: him was his first spring training, and you could see 268 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 3: the sense of humor that he already had and he 269 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 3: understood what I was saying. The two of us were 270 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 3: sitting on chairs in the outfield in Peoria, Illinois, where Peoria, 271 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 3: Illinois Peoria Arizona, where the Ebertors were trading okay, and 272 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 3: so I asked him a bunch of questions, like what 273 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 3: is your favorite part about being in the United States 274 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 3: because he now lives here, because he's playing baseball here. 275 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 3: He said, hamburgers. I could eat hands every day. And 276 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 3: then he said, this is where I noticed a sense 277 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 3: of humor, which really came out in his wonderful speech. 278 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 3: I said, uh, so, what what disappoints you the most 279 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 3: about about America? And he said, everything breaks here. And 280 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 3: then he looks at me and he goes that chair, 281 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 3: that chair that you're sitting on, My collapse any second, 282 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 3: just be ready. And I thought, Wow, this guy's way 283 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 3: ahead of it when it comes to understanding our country 284 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 3: and what it takes to get along here. So speeches 285 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 3: were great, Dick Allen's widow was fabulous, Dave Parker's son 286 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 3: was great. Billy Wagner, of course, played up perfectly that 287 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 3: you know, I don't. I was never supposed to be 288 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 3: here and C. C. Stabathia talked about his battles to 289 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 3: get here and everything. So the speeches were great. Not 290 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 3: seen everywhere though. Jeff was the one that I went 291 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 3: to on Saturday. It was a packed house. By the way. 292 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 3: Tom Hamilton, play by play guy for the Cleveland Guardians, 293 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 3: went in with the Ford Frick Award, and my friend 294 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 3: and Tom Boswell won the Career Excellence Award this year 295 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 3: for baseball writing. He should have been in fifteen years ago. 296 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 3: But he made a stunningly good speech, which was no surprise. 297 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 3: And I grew up reading Tom Boswell. He's eight years 298 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 3: older than me, and so I grew up reading him 299 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 3: in the Washington Post. Then I ended up working right 300 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 3: next to him. And I'll never forget eighty six playoffs, 301 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 3: Angels and Red Sox. I'll be real close on this. 302 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 3: One of the games. He looks at me in the 303 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 3: second inning. We're sitting right next to each other covering 304 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 3: the game, and I'm honored because I'm sitting right next 305 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 3: to Tom Boswell and he looks at me. It's nothing, 306 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 3: nothing in the second inning, and he goes this is 307 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 3: a four to two game. I've seen this game before. 308 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 3: The final score was four to two, and he called 309 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 3: it at the second inning, but it was nothing to nothing. 310 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 3: So it was great. It was really, really a great 311 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 3: time in Cooperstown, and I am going to go back 312 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 3: every year if I'm allowed, because just being there is 313 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 3: the best weekend of the year, and it's just a 314 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 3: shared love of baseball, jeff from people who are there. 315 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 3: I told you a few years ago when I was 316 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 3: honored there. I walked to a special event on Sunday 317 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 3: morning and there was this you know, mid thirties guy, 318 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 3: I would say, standing on the side, you know, on 319 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 3: the side of the street, and he was getting autographs 320 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 3: and stuff like that. He asked me to sign his 321 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 3: bad I was thrilled, and I said, so where are 322 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 3: you from? He goes, I'm from San Diego. I drove here. 323 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 3: So he drove from San Diego to Williamsport, I mean 324 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 3: to Cooper's Down. I mean that that's a long ride, Jeffrey. Yeah. 325 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it's by far the most incredible place when 326 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: it comes to baseball. 327 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 2: You meet so many great people. 328 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: I know, my friends TJ and Karen were there, My 329 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: buddy Ralphie was there. They're all fans like they Tej 330 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: and Karen went for Hammy, as they call them. 331 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: They went for their broadcaster Dad, not for a. 332 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: I mean they are Indians, then Guardians fans, so CC 333 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: Sabathia as well, even though we went in as a 334 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: Yankee obviously spent a lot of time in Cleveland. My 335 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: buddy Ralphie went for CC Sabathia. He's a Yankee fan. 336 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: So I think it's really special what fans, How fans 337 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 1: make Cooper sound such an important part of their life. 338 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 3: It's really cool, absolutely tremendous. Okay, other things, Jeff, the 339 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 3: Blue Jays are really hot, Jeff. They're seventeen and five 340 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 3: in the month of July through Sunday, and they have 341 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 3: a chance to have the best winning percentage in any 342 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 3: month in franchise history. And remember they won two World 343 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 3: Series in a row, so this is impressive. Now, I'm 344 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 3: not suggesting they are this good and they're just gonna 345 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 3: run away with things, but there have been a bunch 346 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:46,719 Speaker 3: of time they have the best record of baseball. I mean, 347 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 3: like six different teams seemingly have had the best record 348 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 3: of baseball at one point. This year, which makes it 349 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 3: so interesting. We're not sure who's good, We're not sure 350 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 3: who's not good anymore, and that's going to make for 351 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 3: an amazing stretcher out. And speaking of amazing, Jeff Nick 352 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 3: Kurtz went six for six, scored six runs, and had 353 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 3: eight RBIs. So just read off that line score six 354 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 3: six six eight, four homers, nineteen total bases. So he 355 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 3: and Sean Green are the only two players ever to 356 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 3: have six hits in a four homer game and the 357 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 3: kicker there. So arguably this is the greatest offensive performance 358 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 3: ever and he's the first rookie to do it, and 359 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 3: he did it in his sixty sixth major league game. 360 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 3: The previous record for fewest games to your first or 361 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 3: your four homer game is four hundred and twenty five 362 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 3: by Mark Witten. So he broke it by a mile. 363 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 3: And Mark Whitten, by the way, was later, not that year, 364 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 3: but not that long later, was sent to the minor 365 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 3: leagues after hitting four home runs in the game. Think 366 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 3: about that for a second. And by the way, Jeff 367 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 3: Sean Green hit four hit that four homer game nineteen 368 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 3: total bases. While I was on a school road trip 369 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 3: a what's it called field trip. Field trip with might 370 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 3: have been with Kelly to Williamsburg. All I know was 371 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 3: I was on a trip where I was in no 372 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 3: position to work and Sean Green went six or six 373 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 3: with four home runs drove it. It was just unbelievable. 374 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 3: I didn't know what to do. 375 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: Why Why does this happen to you when at the 376 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: most inconvenient times of all time? 377 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 3: I think it was Kelly, not your class, because I 378 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 3: went on all the field trips. And do you remember, Jeff, 379 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 3: what happened the first time I took the family to 380 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 3: Cape Cod and we're at a Cape Cod game? Do 381 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 3: you remember what happened? We're about in the seventh andy 382 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 3: of the game. We're having the time of our life 383 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 3: at Cape Cod and Felix Hernandez pitched a perfect game. 384 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 2: If you remember, Yeah, I remember. 385 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 3: I don't care what we're doing. When someone pitches a 386 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 3: perfect game and they call and say, can you get 387 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 3: on the phone with us, the answer is yes, of 388 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 3: course I can't. I'm not gonna say, hey, you're on 389 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 3: vacation with my family. It only took ten minutes, but that, Yeah, 390 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 3: strange things happen when I go away like that, and. 391 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: Dad to your point about records being set by nobody's 392 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: with all due respect Mark Whitten, former Major League baseball player. 393 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: Of course, it isn't Barry Bonds or Hank Aaron or 394 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: Babe Ruth or somebody else who hit four homers in 395 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: a game that early into his career. Speaking of Barry Bonds, 396 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 1: never did it. 397 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 3: Right, I mean, Jeff, Yeah, as we've been over David Ortiz, 398 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 3: Rafael opel Mao, Gary Sheffield five hundred homers each, never 399 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 3: hitting that three homers in a game, right, crazy. Hank 400 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,719 Speaker 3: Aaron had won three homer game in the regular season, 401 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 3: Babe Ruth had two three homer games, two in the postseason. 402 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 3: But it just shows you what Nick Kurtz can do. Jeff. 403 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 3: This this was not an aberration. This kid has been 404 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 3: really swinging it. He played in college last year, Jeff. 405 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 3: Just another reminder how quickly these guys are arriving in 406 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 3: the big leagues, and when they get here, they're really, 407 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 3: really good. But just for a little bit of context, Jeff, 408 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 3: when he hit the four homers in the game, the Guardians, 409 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 3: the Giants, and the Brewers as a team had not 410 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 3: hit four homers in a game this season, and each 411 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 3: had played over one hundred games and Nick Kurtz, a rookie, 412 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 3: hit four homers in one game. How great is that? 413 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 2: It's unbelievable? 414 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Dad should be jumping to the cotchins 415 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: for today. 416 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, so, Jeff, you know how much I think cycles 417 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 3: are cool. But as we've been over a thousand times 418 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 3: on this podcast, Willie Mays, Hank, Aaron Babe Ruth, and 419 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 3: Barry Bonds never hit for the cycle, So how great 420 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 3: can it be? However, when a guy gets the cycle 421 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,479 Speaker 3: or flirts with a cycle. Well, Michael Harris, the second 422 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 3: of the Braves, had an interesting night the other night. 423 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 3: He comes up for what we know is his last 424 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,959 Speaker 3: at bat and he has a double, a triple, at 425 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 3: a homer. So all he needs is a single easy 426 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 3: hit for the cycle, and he hits another triple. So 427 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 3: I checked the last time that any player needed a 428 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 3: single to hit for the cycle, and instead he hit 429 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 3: his second triple of the game. The triple, of course, 430 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,239 Speaker 3: is the hardest thing to do. Hal Breeden did that 431 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 3: on September second, nineteen seventy three, so it was fifty 432 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 3: two years ago that anyone did kind of exactly what 433 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 3: Michael Harris did. So he ended up with two triples, 434 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 3: a double, and a homer and did not hit for 435 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 3: the cycle. Jeff, I guess the question is, what would 436 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 3: you rather do? Single, double, triple, homer or double? Two 437 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 3: triples and a homer? I mean, what's wrong with that? 438 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 2: You always got it. 439 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: I mean, would you rather hit a single, double, triple, 440 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: homer or four homers? 441 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 3: Right? Well, you know what I mean, right. 442 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 2: You take the four homer game every time? 443 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 3: Right now? This status kind of old, Jeff, But maybe 444 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 3: ten years ago I called all my friends of the 445 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 3: Elias and said, all right, I'm tired of hearing this 446 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 3: guy is a triple short of the cycle. It's like 447 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 3: saying I want to lose one hundred pounds and you've 448 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 3: lost five. You've got a night off the Titanic, as 449 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 3: you would say, yeah, you don't. The triple is the 450 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 3: hard partic. So they looked it up, and this was 451 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 3: like ten years ago, so it's changed a lot since then. 452 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 3: But they've found fourteen thousand, five hundred instances in baseball 453 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 3: history where someone had a single, a double, at, a homer, 454 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 3: and no triple. Fourteen thousand, five hundred. So let's not 455 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 3: make it likee hey, all he needs is a triple. Well, 456 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 3: it's not that to hit a triple. 457 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: That twenty thousand individuals have played Major League Baseball slightly more, yes, 458 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: slightly more like almost close to twenty one thousand and 459 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: fourteen thousand instances of this happening. Right, I hate that too, Dad, 460 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: It's a pet peeve of mine as well. 461 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 3: Right, all right. The other thing, the poor Rockies lost 462 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 3: a game to the Oriols the other day eighteen to nothing. 463 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 3: So they've lost two games this year by eighteen to nothing. 464 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 3: So they are the fourth team in Major League history 465 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 3: to lose, to be shut out twice in a season 466 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 3: and give up at least eighteen runs in those two games. 467 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 3: The sixty nine Podres and Expansion team are the only 468 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 3: team since nineteen hundred other than now the Rockies, to 469 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 3: do that in one season. So I looked up that 470 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 3: sixty nine Padres team, Jeff, they got shut out. These 471 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 3: were the scores they got other shutouts. But these are 472 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 3: the no ones nineteen to nothing, nineteen to nothing, fourteen 473 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 3: to nothing, twelve nothing, eleven nothing, and two ten to nothing. 474 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 3: So seven times that year, Jeff, they were shut out 475 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 3: while the other team scored in double figures. Wow. And 476 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 3: they were outscored by two hundred and seventy eight runs 477 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 3: that year. That's what happens when you're an expansion team. 478 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 3: Makes for a difficult season. Okay, Xavier Edwards of the Marlins, 479 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 3: and I only bring this up because we've been tracking 480 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 3: this even I'm getting tired of it. But he's the 481 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 3: leadoff guy, and he struck out four times. So now 482 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 3: we have twenty six times this year that a leadoff 483 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 3: guy has struck out four times or more in a game. 484 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 3: So that ties the record for most leadoff strikeouts before 485 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 3: the month of August, tying twenty twenty two. So I'm 486 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 3: pretty sure in the next few days someone else will 487 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 3: strike out four times, which, again, Jeff, all I'm trying 488 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 3: to say is how hard it is to get a 489 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 3: hit these days, and how our hitters are up against it, 490 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 3: and until they make an adjustment, which they're going to 491 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 3: have to do here pretty soon, they're going to keep 492 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 3: striking out. Riley Green, by the way, for the Tigers, 493 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 3: just made the All Star team. He's a good player. 494 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 3: Through Monday, he had struck out thirty eight times in 495 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 3: the month of July. Wow. Tony Gwyn who we talk 496 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 3: about all the time on the show. His strikeout high 497 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 3: for a season was forty. Joe DiMaggio strikeout high was 498 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 3: thirty nine. You know, Yogi Berra's below that and he's 499 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 3: got thirty eight. So guess who has Jeff the most 500 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 3: strikeouts in a calendar month this season? Just shoot as 501 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 3: high as you can, Shoot as high as you can 502 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 3: for it. 503 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 2: Guess who has it or what number? 504 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 3: No, just guess who has struck out the most times 505 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 3: in any calendar month just this season. Shoot as high 506 00:26:51,880 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 3: as you want, say it, Kyle Schwarverer, no higher, higher 507 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 3: other than Aaron Judge. Yes, Aaron Judge struck out forty 508 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 3: two times in June. That's the most strikeouts in any 509 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 3: calendar month this season. Are we picking on Aaron Judge? 510 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 3: Of course not. And now he's hurt. Now there's a 511 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 3: big debate there. Not. None of this is the point. 512 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 3: We're just trying to show in this beautiful game that 513 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 3: we love and we cover and we watch the best 514 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 3: players hold some strange, strange marks. In this case, most 515 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 3: strikeouts in a month this year belonged to Aaron Judge 516 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 3: at forty two. Yes, unbelievable, right, Okay, So Jeff on 517 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 3: Friday night, JP Crawford, we had a six to one 518 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 3: put out, Jeff, a six one put out. So that's 519 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 3: the shortstop throwing it to the picture for a putout. 520 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 3: Now can you even picture how that could happen because 521 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 3: the last time it happened was in twenty twenty two, 522 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 3: so it's been over three years since the shortstop threw 523 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 3: the ball to the pitcher in just a six to 524 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 3: one put out. He wasn't part of a rundown. Six 525 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 3: and one were involved, So I'm not going to torture 526 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 3: you with this. JP Crawford was the hitter for the 527 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 3: Mariners first and second tenth inning. Nobody out and the 528 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 3: bunt went to the left side of the infield, and 529 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 3: the shortstops Ach Netto of the Angels, charges the ball. 530 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 3: He throws it to Ryan Zephyr John, the pitcher who 531 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 3: is covering third on the play because he's an alert pitcher, 532 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 3: and he flips it to the pitcher to get a 533 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 3: force out at third. Six to one. I mean, those 534 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 3: are the things, Jeff, that I look at and say, 535 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 3: I'm not sure I've ever seen a six to one. 536 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 3: Clearly there have been, because it was one three years ago, 537 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 3: but I thought that was pretty cool. 538 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: That is definitely alert pitching, and that's something we teach 539 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: our kids in youth baseball, like cover each other and 540 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: nothing's more fun than scoring game because then you'll have 541 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: like a six, nine to two putout and you're like, 542 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: how did that even happen? 543 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 3: Right, And we just scream at pictures in spring training 544 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 3: during PfP pictures fielding practice to get over there. That's 545 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 3: what they scream every time, to go cover first base. Well, 546 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 3: in this case, he ran over and covered third base 547 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 3: and got it out very heads up. My last one, Jeff, 548 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 3: is our biggest stretch of the courch in this year, 549 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 3: we Adrian Hauser faced Michael Bush and he hit it 550 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 3: with a pitch, which is kind of irrelevant, but so 551 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 3: that was an Anheuser Busch matchup, right, No, Right, was 552 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 3: that terrible? It was terrible? Sorry, that was that was rough? 553 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 3: That was that was terrible. 554 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: We've been diving deep and in fact that I haven't 555 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: seen a lot of messages from the family, from the 556 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: people who listened to the show, they. 557 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 2: Were really hot on it. Lately I haven't. 558 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: I haven't been seeing their messages and quite frankly that 559 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: I check every day twice a day now, because you 560 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: have completely dist and I haven't found a good one 561 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: in weeks. 562 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 3: Me a picture, batter matchup or a picture a fun name. Yeah, 563 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 3: look it goes in spurs. Don't don't get down on 564 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 3: our on our listeners and our readers and our our 565 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 3: and our viewers, because I haven't found that many lately either, 566 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 3: But they come in Spurst. We're going to have a 567 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 3: really good one coming up, I promise you. 568 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: And the only other one I was thinking about is Wednesday, 569 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: July thirtieth, Nelson and Olsen. I don't know why the 570 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: matchups of the Suns, but it doesn't even work right 571 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:38,719 Speaker 1: Nelson and Olson. 572 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 3: All right, Jeff, we got to do better than that, 573 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 3: for sure. 574 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: Well, okay, my other one from Wednesday's matchup is burrows 575 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: against Web. A spider creates a web and he also 576 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: burrows into the ground. Nope, nope, not good, trying too hard? 577 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 3: All right, we can cut that one out of the podcast, Jeff, 578 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 3: since it's it's so bad. 579 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna cut it out now that you 580 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: cause I'm not cutting out you taking your blt out 581 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: of the oven. 582 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 3: I'm not cutting this out right, all right, Alright, this 583 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 3: is what we do. We have other lives. I have 584 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 3: to cook and you told me you were not beyond 585 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 3: at eleven thirty today, so I put some bacon in 586 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 3: the oven. It was good, right, Sorry, all right? 587 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 2: On this date in baseball history, Dad, what do you 588 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 2: have for us? 589 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 3: All right? We're only I only have one because frankly, 590 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 3: there were not a great number of compelling things on 591 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 3: this state. But on this date in two thousand and seven, 592 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 3: Cal Ripken and Tony gwyn Junior Tony Gwinn both went 593 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 3: into the Hall of Fame in the same class. And 594 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,959 Speaker 3: it's the greatest induction ceremony that I've ever been to. 595 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 3: Of Course, the Oriole fans were everywhere. I wasn't shocked, 596 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 3: but it was amazing how many people came from San 597 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 3: Diego to see Tony Gwynn. And of course we have 598 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 3: Tony Gwynn Junior on the podcast tomorrow and he talked 599 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 3: all about that induction. I told couple stories from that induction. 600 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 3: But Jeff, what do you remember from that induction? Because 601 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 3: you were what what were you? Fourteen years old? Thirteen 602 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 3: years old? 603 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thirteen, And I mean, we're going to 604 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: talk to Tony Gwinn Junior about the induction on the 605 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: episode tomorrow. You do not want to miss First of all, 606 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: you don't want to miss it due to the uncanny 607 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: lookalike and sound alike dad and I talking and Tony 608 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: Gwinn Junior talking, and God rest his soul, and we 609 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: wish we could have him with us. But if his 610 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: dad was on the podcast dat I think it would 611 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: be unlistenable because it would just sound like Tim Kirkson 612 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: talking to Tony Gwynn and the sons weren't even there 613 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: because you and I sound alike and Tony and his 614 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: son sound so similar. Right, But my highlight and I 615 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: talked about it on the interview, so I'm going to 616 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: repeat myself preemptively. 617 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 2: But is the people Dad. 618 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: I had a chance to go to quite a few 619 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: inductions at that point. They were back to the trees, 620 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: and those who have been to Cooper Sound know what 621 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: that means. There was a huge field where they hold 622 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: the induction ceremony and it was a sea of people. 623 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: It was unbelievable, and that to me, it just sticks out. 624 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: As a kid as a teenager, now I had my 625 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: own experiences. I had a chance to meet Tony Gwinn 626 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: and Cal Ripken Jr. Both I met them both at 627 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: the two thousand and one All Star Game with you, Dad, 628 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: but meeting them induction weekend and after you did the 629 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: roundtable with the both of them. This is after their induction, 630 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: so it's a little slower it used to air on ESPN. 631 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: I'm sitting backstage and carric Can and Tony Gwynn walk off, Dad, 632 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 1: and you introduced me to Cal. 633 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 3: Right now, and I'm going to tell I'm going to 634 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 3: tell that story, Jeff. So. Cal Ripkin's speech was absolutely 635 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 3: tremendous that day, as was Tony Gwyn's speech, And we'll 636 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 3: tell a couple of Tony gwyn stories tomorrow, so please 637 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 3: tune in. But cal Ripkins started his Hall of Fame 638 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 3: speech with a story, a very self deprecating story about 639 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 3: how he had just gotten back from a like a 640 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 3: kid camp where he went in and introduced himself and 641 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 3: then went on to help teach the kids how to 642 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 3: play baseball. So as part of it, he said, he said, yeah, 643 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 3: you know, I played X number of years, I made 644 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 3: X number of All Star teams. But this was what 645 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 3: they wanted him to do. He wasn't bragging about himself. 646 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 3: But it was a pretty long list of accomplishments. I 647 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 3: won two MVPs, that type of thing. So after the 648 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 3: speech is over, one of the kids came up to him. 649 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 3: He was like eight years old, and he goes to 650 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 3: cal Ripken and he says, am, I supposed to know 651 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 3: who you are? And I I thought that was the 652 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 3: most beautiful way to open a Hall of Fame speech. 653 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 3: Was it to indeed present all of his accolades. But 654 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 3: there was an eight year old kid who had no 655 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 3: idea who he was. So I'm going to steal your thunder, Jeff. 656 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 3: But after the speech was over, after the roundtable was over, 657 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,319 Speaker 3: and now all the pressure is off, you go up 658 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 3: to meet cal Ripken again and you're thirteen years old, 659 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 3: and you know, you shook his hand and you looked 660 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 3: at him and said, am I supposed to know who 661 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 3: you are? And I cal Ripken laughed out loud. He 662 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 3: was completely taken that a thirteen year old. And this 663 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 3: is important, Jeff. A thirteen year old not only had 664 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 3: watched and listened to the speech, but could bring something 665 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 3: back from the speech and present it in a clever 666 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 3: way to an adult. Thirteen year olds aren't very good 667 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 3: at that and all kidding aside, Jeff. That's when I 668 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,280 Speaker 3: knew my boy Jeff has a chance to do something 669 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 3: if he wants to move it forward. Because that was 670 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 3: really funny and you made cal Ripken laugh out loud. 671 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 2: That means a lot. 672 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one of my favorite memories and one of 673 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: my favorite stories. 674 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 3: I love that. 675 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,879 Speaker 1: Now, Dad, you mentioned you only had one on this 676 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,479 Speaker 1: date in baseball history, so I came up with an 677 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,919 Speaker 1: on this date in regular history. I have one one 678 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: date that I thought really stuck out in in nineteen 679 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:07,240 Speaker 1: oh seven, Robert Baden Powell formed the Boy Scouts of England, 680 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: the Boy Scouts in England, and it just takes me 681 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: back to our time in the Cub Scouts when you 682 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: were our assistant dead leader with your shirt and your 683 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 1: pins and you, along with Aquila mister Reedy, who was 684 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: an actual Eagle Scout back in his day, was our 685 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: dead leader and you were the assistant dead leader. I 686 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 1: don't think that you had any qualifications to have that job, 687 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: Am I wrong? 688 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 3: Jeff? There were six kids in the dead Okay, we 689 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 3: didn't need an assistant dead leader. But yes I was. 690 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 3: I'm sure the worst assistant dead leader in history. Because 691 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 3: I couldn't put up a tent to save my life, 692 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 3: I would be I wouldn't get past phase one of 693 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 3: trying to become an eagle scout. I remember I had 694 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 3: to do Jim Ready Akila. Sean Reidy's dad told me, 695 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 3: all right, we need you to prepare something for the kids. 696 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 3: So I said, all right, I'll do something on baseball, 697 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 3: and he goes, no, we're going to branch out from this. 698 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 3: You have to do something on bird migration. So I'm thinking, 699 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 3: I don't know anything about birds. I don't know anything 700 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 3: about migration. I sure do know anything about bird migration. 701 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 3: So I went to the internet. I came up with 702 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 3: a I came up with a propos. I just made 703 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 3: a presentation on bird migration. And afterwards, you're like eight 704 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 3: years old, you said, God, Dad, that was great. I 705 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 3: had no idea that you knew that much about bird migration. 706 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,240 Speaker 3: I said, Jeff, I didn't know anything until this morning. 707 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 3: But yeah, that was That was pretty bad. And I 708 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 3: was a terrible assistant den leader. But I tried, and 709 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 3: I went on all the trips, and you know, I 710 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 3: tried to two sticks together. I was awful, but I 711 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 3: did do all of that stuff with you guys, and 712 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 3: that was the most important thing. 713 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: All right, Dad, wrapping up today's episode, don't forget we 714 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: have Tony Gwinn Junior tomorrow on the podcast. 715 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 2: You got to make sure to be listening. You have 716 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 2: a team tim today. 717 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 3: Don't you. Yeah. I just thought, in keeping in just 718 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 3: to say goodbye to the Hall of Fame for one 719 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 3: more year, that I would do the very controversial greatest 720 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 3: players of all time at each position. Jeff, this is 721 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 3: the ultimate. This is my list, not your list, not 722 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 3: anybody else's list. And our great friend Jim Henneman, the 723 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,319 Speaker 3: late great Jim Heneman, used to play this game all 724 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,720 Speaker 3: the time, where you get four guys in a room 725 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 3: or four women in a room, doesn't matter, and you're 726 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 3: gonna pick the greatest player of all time at each position. 727 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 3: But it's like a fantasy football draft. You know, I 728 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,280 Speaker 3: get the first choice at catcher, You get the first 729 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,959 Speaker 3: choice at second, Michael kirkchen first at third, and Mark 730 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 3: gets the first choice at shortstops. Not everyone gets and 731 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 3: you just rotate. Okay, And at the end of the exercise, 732 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,879 Speaker 3: at the end of the game, all four guys say, 733 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 3: my team is better than yours, because there are that 734 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 3: many great players in the history of baseball, and your 735 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,319 Speaker 3: fourth best shortstop might be better, you think, than the 736 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,800 Speaker 3: best shortstop who got the number one pick. So whatever, 737 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 3: All right, so this is mine. I'm not going to 738 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,399 Speaker 3: expound on these because it's fairly obvious who these guys are. 739 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 3: Johnny Bench is still for me the greatest catcher of 740 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 3: all time. I saw him at Coopersown. He is again 741 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 3: the master of ceremonies, of all things. He was absolutely 742 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 3: in his glory. It was so great. Luke Garrig gets 743 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 3: the first baseman. Rogers Hornsby is the second baseman. I 744 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,879 Speaker 3: still believe the greatest right handed hitter of all time. 745 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 3: Hannis Wagner is the shortstop. Again. He played well over 746 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 3: one hundred years ago, and I think would be the 747 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 3: starting shortstop because he was played for the Pirates for 748 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 3: the Pirates right now. If we just gave him a 749 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 3: little time to figure out how to play in today's game, 750 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 3: he would start in the big leagues right now. For 751 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 3: the game him a. 752 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: Little time to figure out today's game and a little 753 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 1: time to figure out how to use a cell. 754 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 3: Phone right and how to use a glove. That actually 755 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 3: has fingers on it instead of just a hunk of leather. 756 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 3: Mike Schmidt's the third baseman. Told several Mike Schmidt stories today. 757 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 3: Ted Williams my left fielder. Second greatest hitter of all 758 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 3: time for me, after Babe Ruth. Willie May is his 759 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,240 Speaker 3: greatest center fielder. He's the greatest player I've ever seen, 760 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,320 Speaker 3: and I think to Babe Ruth the second greatest player 761 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 3: ever my opinion, Babe Ruth is the right fielder. Walter 762 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 3: Johnson is the right handed pitcher. Yeah, it's such a 763 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 3: bad it's such a bad gag now that when I 764 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,280 Speaker 3: say now, you just have to complete the sentence. Hey, 765 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 3: did I ever tell you I went to Walter Johnson 766 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 3: High School. Yeah, okay, he's the right handed pitcher. This 767 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,800 Speaker 3: was really hard. Lefty Grove is the left handed pitcher. 768 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,360 Speaker 3: Just go back and look at those numbers, especially in 769 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,319 Speaker 3: the early go back and look at nineteen thirty one, 770 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 3: when you know when he won thirty one games, lost four. 771 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 3: I mean, he was pretty good. And Mariano Rivera is 772 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 3: the closer, is our relief pitcher. So that's my all 773 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 3: time team. I mean, give me your all time team. 774 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,720 Speaker 3: There are no correct answers here because it's an opinion question. 775 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 3: But that's who I came up with, and that says 776 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 3: goodbye to Cooperstown for twenty twenty five. But it was 777 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 3: a great it was a great weekend in Cooperstown. I 778 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 3: loved it. 779 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,879 Speaker 1: Tony gwyn Junior on the podcast tomorrow talking about his 780 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 1: major league career, his broadcasting career, and of course his 781 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:40,879 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. 782 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 3: Dad. 783 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: It's it's a really really great interview. We can't wait 784 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,920 Speaker 1: for you to hear it. Plus, the trade deadline is 785 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: coming up this week and we are as of now 786 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 1: planning on doing a little bonus episode that will come 787 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 1: out on the feed Friday, So you're gonna get four 788 00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: episodes this week, including our just initial quick reactions on 789 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 1: the trades go down on Thursday afternoon, so we can 790 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 1: stay up to date on that. 791 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 2: All right, Dad, We'll go make your blt okay. 792 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 3: I am, I'm gonna cut. I'm gonna slice some tomato, 793 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,280 Speaker 3: a little lettuce, a little mayonnaise, and some turkey bacon 794 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 3: on toasted wheat bread. I'm looking forward to first piece 795 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 3: of bread in a month. 796 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 2: Joe, I'm jealous. 797 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 3: I'm very jealous. 798 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,399 Speaker 1: Well, thank you, so much for listening, thanks for making 799 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 1: a belt, and as always, thanks for being a part 800 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 1: of our family.