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Speaker 1: Welcome in What's Driving the Great Episode three point fifty four.

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Speaker 1: In this episode, as always, of What's Driving the Grid

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Speaker 1: is presented to you by boost Mobile. A ton to

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Speaker 1: do today. I actually fly out of town right after

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Speaker 1: First Things First tonight for an event that I can

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Speaker 1: talk more about when I get back. But it'll be great.

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Speaker 1: I won't miss any podcasts. We'll be back on the

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Speaker 1: air on Tuesday with our regular scheduled pod. And today

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Speaker 1: we have a ton we're gonna get to. I have

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Speaker 1: to help out my buddy Daryl Morey because he is

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Speaker 1: being misaggregated and a bit, and so we will discuss. However,

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Speaker 1: the comments he did make. The comments, he's not being misquoted,

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Speaker 1: but they are being slightly misconstrued. We will get to that. Also,

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game tonight, So who are the no

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Speaker 1: if you think there is someone that I have overlooked,

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Speaker 1: and we do this once a year, and there's always

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Speaker 1: at least one guy who's a no doubter or that

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Speaker 1: I just like, Forget exists or Forget is still playing

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Speaker 1: There's some other fun things we're going to do as well.

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Speaker 1: Demand's a great to see you as always. It looks

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Speaker 1: like a new hoodie mate possibly or just one I

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Speaker 2: Great I've worn before, it's just been a while. I

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, good to see Before we get to the

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Speaker 1: real news of the day, as always, straight to voicemail,

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Speaker 1: NBA wants to expanded European footprint over the next few years.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that's because they might be dealing with,

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Speaker 1: they might be also I'm not gonna get to been

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Speaker 1: out of shape over Front Office Sports is Exclusive, which

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Speaker 1: was what we told you guys on Tuesday about that.

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Speaker 1: What I said on TV on Monday and then on

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Speaker 1: this show on Tuesday about the Maverick Lebron Jokers agents meeting,

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Speaker 1: that it was not about Lebron playing for the Nuggets,

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Speaker 1: it was about the league that Maverick is attempting to

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Speaker 1: put together. That's fine, you know what I mean. They

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Speaker 1: got some details in it that I didn't not that

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Speaker 1: no issue there. But that is a real thing, and

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Speaker 1: that is something unequivocally to watch. Also, evidently cam Ward Demanse,

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Speaker 1: your guy, called the Titans offense very mid. I've also

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Speaker 1: decided cam Ward's your guy. I just feel like yeah,

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Speaker 1: nothing but happiness, all right, Before we get to Darryl

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Speaker 1: one million time relitigating the bubble, there was a story

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Speaker 1: Reenus along with five alleged Israeli gangsters, getting himmed up

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Speaker 1: attempting in theory, to get Gilbert and these five Israeli

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Speaker 1: Now, the story also probably sounds if you read it

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Speaker 1: which is Lebron James Championships go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday was the five year anniversary of the first game

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Speaker 1: Okay, So first let me help out my pal Daryl,

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Speaker 1: an abomination, and it just begs the question why why

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Speaker 1: do we play the games if they're not going to count?

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Speaker 1: And again they are. I might be being a little

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Speaker 1: harsh because the rankings are actually Danny's rankings go Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: Alan Burrow, Lamar, Herbert, Stafford, Jaden Goff, Baker, Hurts. So

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Speaker 1: here's the when I say they're an abomination, here's what

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Speaker 1: I mean, Or here's here's what's unfair about that. If

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Speaker 1: he's simply flipped Hurts and Herbert, they're totally legitimate ranking,

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Speaker 1: And that's not I'm not saying that's how I would

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Speaker 1: have it one through ten. But if it went Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: Alan Burrow, Lamar, Hurts, Stafford, Jaden Goff, Baker, Herbert, that's fine,

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Speaker 1: Like there's nothing crazy about that. But having Justin Herbert

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Speaker 1: ahead of Matt Stafford, Jaden Daniels, Jared Goff, Baker, Mayfield,

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Speaker 1: and Jalen Hurts for nothing other than vibes it's just

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Speaker 1: it's just ridiculous. And so now you demons, do you

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Speaker 1: have an issue with people who put Burrow ahead of Lamar? No,

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Speaker 1: I could.

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Speaker 2: I could see those. I can flip those on any

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Speaker 2: given day. I feel like so I could pull Lamar

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Speaker 2: before before Brow. I'm also not mad at Burrow being

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Speaker 2: before Lamar.

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Speaker 1: I'm not mad at Burrow being ahead of Lamar. However, again,

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Speaker 1: my job on this pod is to just be sports.

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Speaker 1: The sports worlds ras ah Ghoul and you know, create

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Speaker 1: balance in the world where there otherwise isn't let me

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Speaker 1: defend Lamar for a moment here. It is unfair in

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Speaker 1: my opinion to penalize Lamar for bad postseason performances and

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Speaker 1: then lift up Joe Burrow, who the last couple of

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Speaker 1: years has had nonexistent postseason performances, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So that is it's a weird because you can't argue

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Speaker 1: as great as Burrow has been was in the regular

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Speaker 1: season last year, a lot of the MVP voters, all

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Speaker 1: pro voters, a lot of people thought Lamar was better.

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Speaker 1: And then obviously the year before Lamar was better in

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Speaker 1: the regular season. Is Burrow was hurt and wasn't that

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Speaker 1: effective early and Lamar won league MVP, and so the

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Speaker 1: knock on Lamar's postseason performances. But Burrow hasn't been in

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Speaker 1: the postseason, So like that one I do think is

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Speaker 1: a little.

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Speaker 2: Much of Lamar is my guy and you're ripping into

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Speaker 2: him the other day on Tuesday. But as postseason success,

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Speaker 2: I really can't argue, like that's that's fair. But how

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Speaker 2: much of that stuff is Burrow's fault? How much of

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Speaker 2: that stuff is Lamar's fault? As far as the postseason

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Speaker 2: what happens, Like with Joe Burrow, You're saying he was

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Speaker 2: banged up and then had a terrible defense last year.

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Speaker 1: I just think, well, no, That's what I'm saying is yes,

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Speaker 1: those are true factors, but I'm also not going to.

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Speaker 2: Use it as a metric like when when ranking them.

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Speaker 1: Well, no I I what I'm not gonna do is

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Speaker 1: say after the regular season, Lamar is higher than Burrow,

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Speaker 1: Burrow misses the playoffs, Lamar plays poorly in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: and then Lamar gets dropped beneath Burrow, like the because

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Speaker 1: you can't, yep, showing up to a test and failing

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Speaker 1: it is still better than skipping the test. Like not

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Speaker 1: showing up and so like you got you got more,

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Speaker 1: you got some questions, right, and so like the and

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Speaker 1: and so that's the so I listen, I don't think

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Speaker 1: having Burrow ahead of Lamar is outrageous, but it's not

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Speaker 1: what I would have And and then it starts getting

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Speaker 1: you know, then we start figuring out where exactly do

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Speaker 1: you have heard? And the Hurts ranking is really interesting.

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Speaker 1: And I tried to make this point on TV yesterday

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Speaker 1: and I did it kind of ham handedly, which is

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Speaker 1: Eagles fans right now. And I get it. They're feeling themselves.

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Speaker 1: You won the chance Super Bowl, you should absolutely be thrilled,

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Speaker 1: But they kind of want the best of both worlds.

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Speaker 1: They want everyone to acknowledge how utterly stacked their roster is,

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Speaker 1: how great, Howie Roseman's done, how good they are, you know,

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Speaker 1: in every way, shape and form. They want all of that,

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Speaker 1: but they also don't want any of us to incorporate

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Speaker 1: any of that into our evaluation of Jalen Hurts. Like

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Speaker 1: they want everyone to bend the knee that they have

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Speaker 1: the best overall roster in football by a mile, but

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Speaker 1: also pretend like we think Jalen Hurts is carrying just

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Speaker 1: a regular team. And so now I think Hurts has

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Speaker 1: been clearly excellent in huge spots, and I think Hurts

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Speaker 1: I think having Hurts ten like Danny did is too

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Speaker 1: you know, a bridge too far. But I also think

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Speaker 1: that it is you view it differently than if Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen had won the Super Bowl last year with the

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Speaker 1: team he had, Jalen winning it last year with the

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Speaker 1: team he had. I just think there is some nuance there.

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Speaker 1: Eagles fans, on the other hand, won us all to

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Speaker 1: be like, you have the greatest roster in the league.

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Speaker 1: It's Sakwan's a Hall of famer. How he drafts better

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Speaker 1: than everyone, the best wide receiver duo, the best offensive line.

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Speaker 1: And I'll also Jalen Hurts got no help, like, which

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Speaker 1: is the you're not gonna You're not gonna get that?

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Speaker 1: All right, let's keep going.

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Speaker 2: Speak. Wait, where are you gonna be bettering on the game?

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Speaker 1: First off, No, I'm not betting on the Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame game. I will be betting on football this year, obviously,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not betting on the Hall of Fame game.

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Speaker 2: Oh but yeah, speaking of the Hall of Fame game,

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Speaker 2: are there any sure fire Hall of famers she would

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Speaker 2: like to play your flag on right now.

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Speaker 1: So this is something we do every year and so

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Speaker 1: and if the producers could just kind of create a

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Speaker 1: running list in the dock and if we can, and

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Speaker 1: if the if anyone in the chat thinks I'm leaving

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Speaker 1: somebody out, tell me because like I'll give you an example,

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Speaker 1: like I could. I'm not going to now because I

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00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: mentioned it, but I could forget that Von Miller is

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Speaker 1: now on Washington and Von Miller is a short you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. But we'll just go team by

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Speaker 1: team and try to do this. The Buffalo Bills, the

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Speaker 1: Bills have zero sure fire Hall of Famers on defense

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Speaker 1: and one and one only sure fire Hall of Famer

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Speaker 1: on offense, and that's Josh Allen. And Josh was not

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Speaker 1: a sure fire Hall of Famer prior to last year,

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Speaker 1: but the unbelievable stats that now go along with a

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Speaker 1: regular season MVP that puts him their hands down. Hands

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Speaker 1: downs maybe wrong, but he's a Hall of Famer. So

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Speaker 1: we're at one for the Buffalo Bills. The Miami Dolphins

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Speaker 1: have one sure fire Hall of Famer and that's Tyreek Kill.

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Speaker 1: There is I think that ooh, this is interesting. This

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Speaker 1: is interesting toa No too is not in two is

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Speaker 1: not even anywhere close. No. I was thinking Minca MinC,

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Speaker 1: but Minca Fitzpatrick is definitely not sure fire. And the

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Speaker 1: the and let me just do something because the Dusty,

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Speaker 1: if you're watching the First Things First Production Room, just

553
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Speaker 1: tell Brew I'll talk to him about the Maury Lebron's story.

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Speaker 1: We should do it. Even though Darryl's slightly misquoted there.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting a thousand texts on this group thread about

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Speaker 1: everybody arguing about this because I I can't chime in

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Speaker 1: because I'm doing this. Minca is Minca has had a

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Speaker 1: very nice career and he's a three time All Pro,

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Speaker 1: so he has a chance, but he's not sure fire.

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Speaker 1: Tyreek is sure fire, and there is no one else

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Speaker 1: on the Dolphins that is anywhere close to it. All right,

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Speaker 1: the Patriots, the Patriots have no one right like definitely

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Speaker 1: right now, there's certainly no one on their offense and

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Speaker 1: there is certainly no one on their defense. Now. Part

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Speaker 1: of that's because the team's so young, so like that's

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Speaker 1: not as you know, that's not a not to say

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Speaker 1: the team has no talent or anything. But again, the

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Speaker 1: exercise we're doing right now, is if they were to retire,

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Speaker 1: are they in the Hall of Fame? Basically? And the

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Speaker 1: Jets are in a similar spot. So in the AFC East,

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Speaker 1: the shore Fire, active Hall of famers are Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: and Tyreek Kill the AFC North right now, the Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: Bengals have zero. Now, jamar Is and Joe are on

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame trajectories, but they are not anywhere close

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Speaker 1: to having established it, you know what I mean? Does

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Speaker 1: that make sense? Like if they Jamar's got to do

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Speaker 1: this for another five years, Joe has to do this

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Speaker 1: for at least another four years plus get some type

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Speaker 1: of He either has.

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Speaker 2: To or if he just won a Super Bowl like

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Speaker 2: next year.

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Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna say, right, he either has

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Speaker 1: to like clip an MVP, win a Super Bowl or

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Speaker 1: just another like six years of these awesome numbers like

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Speaker 1: one one or the other. So the Bengals have none.

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Speaker 1: The Browns have one in Miles Garrett obviously, no one

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Speaker 1: on offense. Sorry, Joe Flacco, you're not getting a look.

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Speaker 1: He did win a Super Bowl and has a lot

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Speaker 1: like big numbers, but he's not He's not there. Denzel Ward,

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Speaker 1: not close, but Miles Garrett is already in. Miles Garrett, No,

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Speaker 1: I said Flacco. Flacco's not gonna make it. He won

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and he won the Super Bowl MVP,

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Speaker 1: and he does have big counting stats. He's not making it.

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Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, six time All Pro, over one hundred career sacks,

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Speaker 1: a Defensive Player of the Year. He's obviously in the

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Speaker 1: Steelers amazingly, Demons, I think you have maybe four. So

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Speaker 1: the Steelers have as sure fire Hall of famers A

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Speaker 1: Rogers and TJ. Watt. Those guys are locked, right Jalen Ramsey,

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Speaker 1: who is on the Steelers now, I believe he is locked.

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Speaker 1: And then Cam Hayward, five time All Pro, seven time

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowler, A Walter Peyton Man of the Year. I

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Speaker 1: think he's getting in. So that is four future Hall

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Speaker 1: of Famers on the Steelers, which is kind of crazy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and are we the I mean it. So he's getting in.

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Speaker 1: And then the Ravens. The Ravens have right now they

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Speaker 1: have two with a couple guys who could get there

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Speaker 1: or no, I'm sorry, I apologize. The Ravens have three

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Speaker 1: with a couple guys who could get there. Lamar is

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Speaker 1: locked Henry. Derrick Henry is locked and DeAndre Hopkins is

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Speaker 1: going to get there. So and then the guys who

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00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: could but have a long way to go, Kyle Hamilton

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Speaker 1: and Roquan Smith, but those are they have three locks,

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Speaker 1: and Lamar Henry and Hopkins. All right, the Titans have

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Speaker 1: nobody the there's not like an old player on that

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Speaker 1: team that I'm forgetting. The nine Jeffreys. Jeffrey Simmons has

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Speaker 1: a chance, but you know he's got a ways to go.

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Speaker 1: So the Titans where he were done with easily. The Colts,

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Speaker 1: I feel like Quinton Nelson is getting in. Let me

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Speaker 1: check his accolades. Quenton Nelson, five time All Pro, seven

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Speaker 1: time Pro bowler. He's in. So the Colts do have one.

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Speaker 1: Shout out Quinton Nelson. Jonathan Stewart's not gonna make it.

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Speaker 1: DeForest Buckner is an underdog to make it, but they've

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Speaker 1: got one in Quinton Nelson. The Jags have none, right,

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Speaker 1: there's no one on the Jags I'm forgetting. Nope. And

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Speaker 1: then the Texans, as far as guys that are already,

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Speaker 1: they've already done enough. No one on offense, Joe Mixon's

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00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: not made it. Nick Chubb's not making it, and their

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00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: defensive players are too young. Chauncey Gardner, Johnson's not making it.

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Speaker 1: Stingley and Will Anderson, you know you've got miles to go.

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00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: Danell Hunter is not quite that caliber. All right, Now

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Speaker 1: to the AFC West and then we'll do We'll see

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Speaker 1: where we're at on the whole AFC. The Broncos again,

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Speaker 1: I think that Pat s or Tan is building quite

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Speaker 1: the resume, but it's too early, and certainly no one

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00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 1: on their offense is has done anything close to enough yet.

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Speaker 1: So the Broncos are out. The Chargers have no one

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Speaker 1: on the offense, and defensively, Khalil Mack, I think he's in.

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Speaker 1: Khalil Mack. Let me look at the career five time

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Speaker 1: All Pro, nine time Pro Bowl, all decades. Yeah, one

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Speaker 1: hundred and eight sacks defensive player er Khalil Max in

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Speaker 1: Derwin James. As much as I like him, I don't

642
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: think he's in yet. Uh So, four time All Pro,

643
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: four time Pro Bowler, he probably needs a little bit more.

644
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: The Raiders are true. The Raiders no one on offense obviously,

645
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: and Max hasn't done enough yet. Max is creating a

646
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: Hall of fame resume, but he hasn't done enough yet.

647
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: And then the chiefs. Mahomes is locked, Kelsey is locked,

648
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: and Chris Jones is locked. And that's the list. So

649
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: in the AFC, the following players are in the Hall

650
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: of Fame. Josh Allen, Tyreek Kill, Miles Garrett, TJ. Watt,

651
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, Cam Hayward, Lamar Jackson, Derrick Henry, DeAndre Hopkins,

652
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: Quenton Nelson, Khalil Mack, Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelcey, Chris Jones.

653
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:36,920
Speaker 1: How many guys is that five? Fiften? It's fifteen, I think,

654
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: So we've got fifteen with again, you know, Morgan Minka

655
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: is probably not making it. And then Burrow Chase I

656
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: would imagine make it, but we can't call him locks yet.

657
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton, Roquant Smith, Patzer, Tanderwin, James, Max Crossby. But

658
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 1: fifteen locks. And this speaks to why making the Hall

659
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 1: of Fame is so difficult in this league. So these

660
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: guys are going to retire the you know, a couple

661
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 1: of year coming up, and the only let five in

662
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: and then guys who are waiting. It's not five new spots,

663
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: it's like two new spots it's really hard. All right,

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the NFC. The as Cowboys that are

665
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: Lock Hall of famers. Right now, it's none. Dak is

666
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: not gonna make it, and Micah is a great bet

667
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: to make it, but is too young, you know what

668
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: I mean. Like, there's nobody from MICA's same draft classes.

669
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, he's in the exact same boat where you

670
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: think that he has a really good chance to do it,

671
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 1: but is the you know, and oh and Zach Martin's

672
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: you know, their offensive line hall of famers are gone now.

673
00:51:55,400 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 1: The Giants, I I don't think Russell's gonna make it.

674
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence needs to do a lot more, as is

675
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 1: Brian Burns. I think Russell Wilson right now is on

676
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: the outside looking in. The Eagles are really interesting because

677
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: right now, Demons, the Eagles only have one absolute Lock

678
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer in Lane Johnson. Their right tackle, Sequon

679
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: is on track now, but needs a little bit more,

680
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like just because he hasn't

681
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: had enough great seasons. Aj Brown I think is on track,

682
00:52:55,000 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: and Jalen Hurts is on track. He's at he has

683
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: an all Pro season, he has been to two super Bowls,

684
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: he's won one. But the only guy on the Eagles

685
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: that could retire today and get and be certain they're

686
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: getting in is Lane Johnson and the Commanders. We already

687
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: said von Miller, and that's the only guy. Von Miller

688
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: is a Hall of Famer. Oh no, that's not the

689
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: only guy. I almost screwed that up. Bobby Wagner's definitely

690
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: making it. They're inside linebacker Bobby Wagner's there's no question

691
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 1: he's making it. So they're older guys and they're on

692
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 1: their defense. But the Commanders have two. So uh and

693
00:53:54,440 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: I again, I am I'm not. I'm only saying guys

694
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Speaker 1: that so that the only guy that I've said is

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00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: a lock that I actually think might not na he

696
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: Walter Pittman of The europe Carrier and Cam Heyward again,

697
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: you gotta be very choosy with the locks. Friend of

698
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: the show and host of I hope he doesn't mind

699
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: me quoting him on this. I think the best daily

700
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: NFL podcast there is, NFL Daily. Greg Rosenthal chimes in,

701
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson makes the Hall of Fame eventually, but not

702
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: a Lock. Maybe I think he might need one more

703
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: little push, all right, so let's keep going. I just,

704
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: I just he was on a great Hall of Fame

705
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: trajectory post Seattle, but it's gone so badly for him

706
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: since then. All Right, the Chicago Bears, I think Joe

707
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: Toney is now in. Joe Tooney, who has what does

708
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 1: he have? Three super bowls.

709
00:54:57,960 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 2: For?

710
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: No? Four super Bowls? Four all pros. I think Joe

711
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 1: Tooney is in, and I don't think anyone else on

712
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: that team is a lock. I mean, obviously Caleb's gonna

713
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: make it, but probably too early to call the lock.

714
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 1: The Lions, that's an interesting one. Do the Lions have

715
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: a single Lock Hall of Famer on the team? The

716
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: answer to that question is no. As good as they

717
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: are now, part of that's because they're so young, Like

718
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball, they're so young,

719
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: but and really on often I mean that they're.

720
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 2: A younger team.

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00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would bet a lot of money that Panay

722
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:55,720
Speaker 1: Sewell eventually makes it. They're right tackle. But he again,

723
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: he's in the same boat as Micah and Jamar, which

724
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: is you just haven't done enough yet. The Packers, I'm

725
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 1: quite certain have no have nobody. I mean, they're like

726
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: Kenny Clark's been there forever. He's not a Hall of

727
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 1: Fame level player. Xavier McKinney's really good, he's not a

728
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame level player. Yeah, so the Packers have

729
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: nobody that is a Hall of Fame lock, the vite man.

730
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: This is tough. I would Justin Jefferson is going to

731
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 1: make the Hall of Fame, but he has he probably

732
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: needs to be a lock for it. He probably needs

733
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: two more years. I mean, he's a he's four time

734
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 1: All Pro, four time Pro bowler, and an Offensive Player

735
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: of the Year. It's close, but if you were to

736
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: walk today, he's not in yet. But he is as

737
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 1: we can put him in heavy ink. But I'm not

738
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 1: gonna include him on the list yet just because he

739
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 1: hasn't played quite long enough. Jonathan Allen's not a Hall

740
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 1: of Famer, so the Vikings don't have anyone. It's interesting

741
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:19,800
Speaker 1: right now, it seems like how many more? Yeah, so

742
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: much of it demonte is because good teams are young,

743
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like they're not the Falcons.

744
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: Jake Matthews is not a Hall of He's been there forever,

745
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: but he's not a Hall of Famer. And you know,

746
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: quality player forever not a Hall of Famer, and they

747
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: obviously have no one on defense, unless I'm forgetting Jesse

748
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: Bates is building a resume, but he's not there yet.

749
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: So the Falcons have nobody. The Saints have one who's

750
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: going to be a Hall of Famer in Cam Jordan,

751
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: I mean Cam Jordan. His sack numbers are insane, like

752
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: the It's really interesting because he's never had like a

753
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: twenty sax season. In fact, I don't even know if

754
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: he's ever had a sixteen sax season. But he's got

755
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty one sacks. He's making the Hall

756
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: of Fame, and do Mario Davis is not, and that's

757
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: obviously nobody on that. Alvin Kamara, yeah, I don't think

758
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: he's I don't think he's there. I think he is

759
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: in the same boat sadly that my guy Jamal Charles

760
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: is gonna be in awesome, but not quite there. And

761
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: Harrison Smith, who Paul mentions two time All Pro, six

762
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: Pro Bowls, is nice. Don't think he gets in. It's

763
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: too hard. It's too hard man, all right. For the Bucks,

764
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: I the Bucks have one one guy who at this

765
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 1: point is a lock in Mike Evans and no one else. Oh,

766
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: Levante David Is he gonna three time All Pro? No,

767
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: it's a great player, can't call it. Mike. Mike Evans

768
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: is the one lock the Bucks have and the Panthers

769
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: without looking I feel confident in saying the Panthers have nobody.

770
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: So I mean Adam feeling very nice career, obviously not

771
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer, and yeah, the Panthers have nobody.

772
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 1: All right, Ram, this is an interesting one. I don't

773
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:13,920
Speaker 1: think Stafford is a lock, which means the Rams don't

774
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,919
Speaker 1: have any luck. Oh, sorry, DeVante Adams is a lock.

775
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 1: Davante's getting in, but Stafford again Stafford. Stafford versus Russ

776
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 1: is gonna end up being an interesting one that gets debated.

777
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: But I don't think Stafford's a lock. I think he

778
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: will get in, but I would not bet my net

779
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: worth on it. The Cardinals do they have anybody the

780
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 1: Oh Kalayas Campbell. Gosh, I can't believe he's still in

781
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 1: the league. He was in the eight draft class. So

782
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: kalay Is Campbell one hundred and ten sacks, two time

783
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 1: All Pro, but six time Pro Bowl and All Decade

784
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 1: and a Walter Payton man of the Year. He's getting in.

785
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: Clay Is Campbell call him a lock. And now we're

786
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: down to two teams. The Seahawks Cooper Cups not a

787
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. They DeMarcus Lawrence is not a Hall

788
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: of Famer. The Seahawks have nobody. And the forty nine Ers,

789
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 1: who you know, lost a lot of their kind of

790
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: veteran guys. I think the forty nine ers only have

791
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: two locks. Well, no, they know they probably have three.

792
01:01:53,280 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: Trent Williams is a definitive lock, Fred Warner a definitive lock,

793
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 1: and George Kittle's a lock. George Kittle's five time All Pro.

794
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 1: So Trent, Warner and Kittle are locks. Nick Bosa has

795
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 1: a chance and that's the end of it. So oh,

796
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Christian McCaffrey obviously has a chance, but he's

797
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: not in yet. Two you know he had it's just

798
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 1: doesn't have enough healthy seasons. So here's what we've got

799
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: in the NFC, Lane Johnson, Von Miller, Bobby Wagner, Joe Tooney,

800
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 1: cam Jordan Mike Evans, DeVante Adams, Kaleis Campbell, Trent Williams,

801
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 1: Fred Warner, George Kittle. In the AFC, Josh Allen, Tyree Hill,

802
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, TJ. Watt, Jalen Ramsey, Cam Hayward, Lamar Jackson,

803
01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:00,919
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, DeAndre Hopkins, Quenton Nelson, Khalil mcpatrick, Holmes, Travis Kelce,

804
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: Chris Jones. So that means we have right now, you know,

805
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: twenty five to thirty lock Hall of Famers. Justin Jefferson

806
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 1: who is going to make it, Jamar Chase who I

807
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 1: would be shocked if he doesn't make it. You know, Micah,

808
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 1: Saquon Burrow are all in Root, Piney Sewell is in Root.

809
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 1: C mc needs one more great year, but it is

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01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 1: it's just hard to make. Man, if you're waiting and

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01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 1: you see these guys retiring, like, it's just hard to

812
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 1: make the Hall of Fame. I hope that was interesting

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Speaker 1: for the audience. I find it interesting. I love doing that.

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Speaker 1: But in might.

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Speaker 1: I mean, well, I mean I kind of meant the

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01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 1: I consider Justin Jefferson and Micah and those guys young guys,

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Speaker 1: but guys like super young guys. No, the Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame's hard. Non Jaden, no, Jade Listen. Jaden had an

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Speaker 1: amazing first year Jamior Gibbs is an interesting one. Hard

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Speaker 1: the monse, Let's jump down to the Shadoor conversation quickly here,

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Speaker 1: because we spent so much time on the uh, the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame stuff, we're not gonna be able to

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Speaker 2: So Brown's owner Jimmy Haslim has distanced himself from the

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Speaker 1: So listen, I think he is just trying to I

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Speaker 1: don't think he's trying to distance himself as much as

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Speaker 1: at least clean up a bit. No, the GM's in charge,

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Speaker 1: not me. Here is what I find so interesting about

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Speaker 1: slipping to the back half of round one, talking about

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Speaker 1: and I just didn't look at him as like a

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Speaker 1: And now the however, because of where he is and

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Speaker 1: Because here's the deal. Kenny Pickett is injured and not

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Speaker 1: cross him out. Dylan Gabriel, sorry, and you're not gonna

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Speaker 1: like this, demase, he's too small. There is a zero

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Speaker 1: percent chance Dylan Gabriel can be a nice backup, maybe

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Speaker 1: Gabriel is the Browns franchise quarterback three years from now, Shadoor,

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Speaker 1: there is a five percent chance Shador is the Browns

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Speaker 1: in there, when the other three guys are a combined

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Speaker 1: but the moment that the year has gotten away from you,

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Speaker 1: Season torect correct because they have two first round picks

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