1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Now from our nation's capital. This is Bloomberg sound On. 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: Seven million people have already cast from ballot in the 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: mid term elections. If we want to ensure the survival 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: of our republic, we have to walk away from politics 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: as usual. That was the finest Washington d C career 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: politician non answer I've ever heard Bloomberg sound on politics, 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: policy and perspective from DC's top name. Adrian's opponent was 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: at the cop was at the Capitol con January said, 9 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: I mean he might not have been the guy with 10 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: the Viking helmet, but he was there. Bloomberg Sound On 11 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio five days to the elections. 12 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to the fastest hour in politics, says We zero 13 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: in on a Bell Weather in the Hudson Valley, New 14 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: York that we'll all be watching next Tuesday night. With 15 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: both candidates on board. Congressman Pat Ryan, who won a 16 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: special election after the Supreme Court ruled on Roe v. Wade. 17 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: Now in a re drawn district, facing Republican Colin Schmidt, 18 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: we talk issues with both the D and the R. 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: Back to back interviews. New polling chose Republicans could flip 20 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: the Senate seat of New Hampshire, Don Baldock debated Senator 21 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: Maggie Hassan last night. We're gonna talk about it with 22 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: Chris Galdery, professor of politics at St Anselm College in 23 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: New Hampshire. They ran the numbers and hosted the debate. 24 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 1: And as Barack Obama makes his way to Arizona, now 25 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: on behalf of Democrats will have analysis from our signature 26 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: paneled Bloomberg Politics contributors Rick Davis and Genie Chanzano are 27 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: with us for the hour. Pat Ryan made a big 28 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: splash when he won a special election in New York 29 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: Hudson Valley because it was right after the Supreme Court 30 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: ruling on row. This is back in August. He's now 31 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: in a redrawn eighteenth district where he's facing Republican Colin Schmidt, 32 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: and he joins us now on Bloomberg as we welcome 33 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: both candidates back to back on the program, starting with 34 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: Congressman Ryan, thanks for joining us, Well, thank you for 35 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: having me. Well, they're calling your race a bell weather 36 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: for the nation, that that you're the canary in the 37 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: political coal mine? Is that how you see it? Uh? 38 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: You know, I am extremely focused here on the ground 39 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: across the three counties I'm hoping to continue to represent. 40 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: So I haven't really been following some of the national stuff, 41 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: but certainly our race in in August, our special election 42 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: was a national referendum on standing up for democracy, reproductive rights, 43 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: fighting for economic relief. And we surprised a lot of uh, 44 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: you know, the experts and pundits in winning that race, 45 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: and I feel good that that momentum is certainly building 46 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: for us. Even more closely watched, of course, because you know, 47 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: this was right after the Scotus ruling. Your primary win 48 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: was given a big boost by the fallout of of 49 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: Roe v. Wade. That special happened in August. Congressman posters 50 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: say the issue was running now far behind things like 51 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: the economy and crime. Will it help decide this race again? 52 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: For you? Unequivocally, it is one of the It's not 53 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: the only issue, of course, but it is one of 54 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: the most salient issues. People are rightly outraged that fellow 55 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:07,399 Speaker 1: Americans fundamental rights and freedoms were ripped away, and we've 56 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: seen the far right double down and actually call for 57 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: a nationwide abortion ban, uh, even in the case of 58 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 1: rape and incests and threats to the life of a mother. 59 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: My opponent is one of those extreme folks. So standing 60 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: up for that right and other rights and delivering economic relief, 61 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: those are the two main thrust of our campaign. Uh 62 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: and and I think that really meets the moment of 63 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: where people's concerns are. Well, you probably saw this new 64 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal poll out today getting a lot of 65 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: talk because it shows a big swing and sentiment among 66 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: so called suburban white women, half of whom now think 67 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: the Republican Party, as I read, has a better economic 68 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: plan to make life easier for people like them. And 69 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: that's up from the same poll in August. Not only 70 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: at that point favored Republicans approach with everything you just said, 71 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: can you win without suburban women? Well, I think the 72 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: important caveat here is no offense to posters. But they 73 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: just always wrong. I mean, I mean, it certainly is. 74 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: In my case. No poll before our special election in 75 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: August had me winning that race. There were dozens of them. 76 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: They all said we're gonna lose. Every single one of 77 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: them was wrong. And I just think that we can't 78 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: over read the polls. Of course, folks are focused on 79 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: the economy. They were focused on it in our August 80 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: special election. They're continuing to focus on it. We saw 81 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: overwhelming support across all political parties, women and men on 82 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: in all generations, because we stood up in a positive, 83 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: constructive way and said we're going to deliver relief. You know, 84 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: for example, I cut our county gas tax and half 85 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: I cut our property tax as the lowest level in 86 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: forty years. We provided millions in small business relief that matters, 87 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: that connects, that actually helps people. Republicans right now, certainly 88 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: at the national level especially, asked them what their actual 89 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: plan is to address rising costs, and all the best 90 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna hear is a tax for the ultra wealthy, 91 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: which is not what the country needs right now. President 92 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: Biden would have won this new district by nine points 93 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: in which is even more favorable for you than the 94 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: nine district that you won in the special. We saw 95 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: the President make a visit to Poughkeepsie this month. You 96 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: were at his side. A lot has happened, though since 97 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: have the politics of the last two years changed the 98 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: views of people in places like Orange or Duchess County. 99 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: What do they tell you, Yeah, an awful lot has happened. 100 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: That's for sure, and I think everybody feels that we 101 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: we are more politically divided, uh, and that there's less 102 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: and less trust in government to actually deliver. I was 103 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: a local elected official before serving in Congress now, and 104 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: my main focus was how do we deliver tangible helps 105 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: to people in mental health and infrastructure, in environmental protection 106 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: in order to rebuild trust. And so when you have 107 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: the President United States show up to the Huston Valley 108 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: the first time a president's been here in decades and 109 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: and announced a twenty billion dollar commitment to bring back 110 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: quantum computing and semi computing jobs back to where IBM 111 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: was the thriving heart of our economy. That is a 112 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: huge deal to tangibly deliver and help both immediately and 113 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: over the next ten to twenty years. That's what we've 114 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: been been doing across the board, in addition to lowering costs, 115 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: lowing prescription drug costs, capping insulin costs. I mean again, 116 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: I think actions speak louder than words in terms of 117 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: how hard Democrats have been fighting to deliver that. In 118 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: actions include showing up in person. You know that you 119 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: hear this this narrative around the country that a lot 120 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: of democratic candidates don't want to appear with President Biden 121 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: that he hasn't been at a lot of uh, you know, 122 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: in a lot of bell Weather states where we have 123 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: closely contested races. But you stood with him in pick Keepsie. 124 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: Does that help your campaign? I was proud to welcome 125 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: the President. One. I respect him personally, and I also 126 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: respect the office of the presidency regardless of who's in it. 127 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: And too, he was here to deliver for the community, 128 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: which is our job. So when anybody comes and wants 129 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: to deliver and help the community that I represent, I'm 130 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: going to proudly stand with them, uh and do everything 131 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: I can to to build on that. And Yeah, I 132 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: don't know why others sort of shy away. I think 133 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: that sometimes we get lost in the punditry and the politics. 134 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, if you're going to 135 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: deliver help, um you are. You are welcome with open 136 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: arms here in our community because we need help. President 137 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: issued a pretty stark morning last night to voters. Uh. 138 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: And it's not the first time he says democracy is 139 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: on the ballot? Is that which you're actually hearing congressmen 140 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: from voters in the midst of this time of inflation 141 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: this time of war. And I ask you that because 142 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: you seem to sort of veer away from the national 143 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: narratives and speak about local issues in our conversation so far, Well, 144 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: we have to do both. I mean, I graduated from 145 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: West Point, I served twenty seven months in combat. I 146 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: took an oath to support and defend our constitution from 147 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: enemies foreign and domestic, and to grapple personally with the 148 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: fact that some of the great the threats to our 149 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: constitution are right here in America, from election deniers, from 150 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: people who stormed our capital. That has to be a 151 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: bright red line. And I don't care who you are, 152 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: what party you're from, what state you're from, if you 153 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: won't uphold that core tenant of our democracy of free 154 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: and fair elections, you need to be held accountable to 155 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: the fullest extent. And um, I'm proud that the President 156 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: is calling that out. And I do hear to your question. 157 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: I hear from a lot of people, and UH poles 158 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: nationally have shown threats to democracy are now at or 159 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: near the top of people's concerns consistently for for weeks 160 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: and months. And I'm you know, I'm I'm running in 161 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: great part because I'm worried and we have to have 162 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: people who believe in it and want to fight to 163 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: make it better. But a lot of talk about political violence, 164 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: certainly since the attack on Paul Pelosi, But as you know, 165 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: it goes back much further than that, as we consider 166 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: the attack on Steve Scalise, Uh in many others over 167 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: the past couple of years. Gabby Giffords, this goes back 168 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: years in years, Congressman, I wonder, how do you consider 169 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: your own safety right now if you've been enduring threats 170 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: on the campaign trail, and and do you think lawmakers 171 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: should have their own security details? I mean, number one, 172 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,479 Speaker 1: it's just sad that we have to even have these conversations, 173 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: and it reflects the increasingly divisive rhetoric which is all 174 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: for personal political gains by selfish people, and that that 175 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: outrages me. Uh And I had to have a conversation 176 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: with my wife about we have two young kids. For 177 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: the first time I have a conversation about securing our home. 178 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: Going back to what I learned as an army officer 179 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: of you know, a safety a security plan to to 180 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: defend a position, which is my own home in my 181 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 1: own community where I grew up. So we've got to 182 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: we've got to do better than this um and and 183 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: certainly upping security is is a small part of it, 184 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: but it's so much deeper than that. And uh, I 185 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 1: just think we have to remind people that we've got 186 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: to remind people of our better angels. As President Lincoln 187 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: so famously said Thomas from pat Ryan, I appreciate your 188 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: spending some time with us on a busy day on 189 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: the trail, and thank you for your service. Oh, thank 190 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: you for having me and I really enjoyed the time. Thanks. 191 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: We turned out of Congressman Ryan's opponent, Colin Schmidt, is 192 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: a Republican member of the New York Assembly, serves in 193 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: the Army National Guard, and he joins our conversation now. 194 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: Mr Schmidt, welcome to Bloomberg. Thanks for having me on. 195 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,599 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Well. As I discussed with Congressman 196 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: Pat Ryan, the nation is watching your race as a 197 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: bit of a microcosm here, especially after the special that 198 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: that he won in the district next door in August 199 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: that that was framed as a classic battle of issues 200 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: as opposed to a lot of the cultural stuff that's 201 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: been going on in this country in this case inflation 202 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: versus abortion. Is this race you're in now any different this? Uh, 203 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: this race in November is going to be starkly different 204 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: than that special election, a different time period or its occurring, 205 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: but nearly a completely different district. And the issues that 206 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: are playing out here are the economy and crime. That 207 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: is the main two issues. They're they're almost tied in 208 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: importance to the voters when we hear about it crime, economy, economy, crime, 209 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: over and over and over again. Uh. Those are the 210 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: issues that are impacting people on their day to day lives. 211 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: And it's nearly the unanimous level that we hear of 212 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: concern are on those two issues at doors and phone 213 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: calls at events. Have done over two fifty something thousand 214 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: voter compacts now since June, and the overwhelming responses continue 215 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: to be on those issues. So let's ask you about inflation, 216 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: which is important to us and something we talked about 217 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: a lot here. Your opponents stood with President Biden and 218 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: keeps you this month that's out this new IBM investment 219 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: to talk about the inflation Reduction Acts lowering drug prices. 220 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 1: The President says that that if Republicans take the House, 221 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: they'll repeal that law. Is he right? The President's decided 222 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: to come here to tout the Inflation Act that they 223 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: passed after inflation hit another record high. And you know, 224 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: my opponent is not offered a solution other than to 225 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: keep spending money, keep spending federal money, which has gotten 226 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: us here in the first place. So the biggest issue 227 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: when it comes to this inflation crisis, which we have 228 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: signed on at the Commitment to America with the new 229 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 1: House Republican majority, is to get the out of control spending. 230 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta get that in control. Over almost 231 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 1: ten sillion dollars in the last two years under the 232 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: Biden administration. House Democrats the main cooler of this inflationary crisis. 233 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: We now see it rippling, with the interest rates continuing 234 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: to increase. Just this week. It's pricing people out of homes, 235 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: it's driving rents through the roof. The ripple effects of 236 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: this continued to be substantial, continued to touch every resident 237 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: of this district. And the President everything he's done has exasperated. 238 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: Everything Pat Ryan has done is exasperated, and we want 239 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: to get it under control when we take over the 240 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: probably saw this New Wall Street Journal poll out today, 241 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: it's not on your race. It's a national poll showing sentiment, 242 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:12,239 Speaker 1: a young sentiment among suburban white women turning more Republican. 243 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: Half of suburban white women now tell this poll that 244 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: the Republican Party has a better economic plan to make 245 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: life easier for them. And if that's up from thirty 246 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: five just in August, you're the one talking with voters 247 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: out on the trail here is inflation more important to 248 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: to suburban white women than the right of choice. I'd 249 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: say the biggest issue that we hear, particularly from from 250 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: families and from moms, is the economic impact that they 251 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 1: are facing. We have the cost of gas, the cost 252 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: of food in particular, is is really unsustainable for many 253 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: many families. We we have had reached out to my 254 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: office numerous people already going back to the fuel cost, 255 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: energy costs of home heatings that they're not even able 256 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: to fully build their tank um or that they do there, 257 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: they can't afford to food, and now they're making a 258 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: choice do we eat or do we keep ourselves warm 259 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: and our family is warm. That's not a Republican or 260 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: Democrat issue. If you're a mother, if if you're a father, 261 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: and you're being faced with are we gonna be warmer 262 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: or or a cold, or hungry or full? Is that 263 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: that transcends I think yeah, any kind of general political leaning. 264 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: Just that's a basic instinct to provide for your family 265 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: and for yourself. So so you don't see abortion as 266 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: a as a viable issue in this campaign. This issue 267 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: is about the economy and then the safety issues of 268 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: crime and supportful l I want to ask you speaking 269 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: of safety, and I asked Congressman Ryan about this. The 270 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: President issued a stark warning to voters last night. He 271 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: says democracy is on the ballot. He pointed to political violence, 272 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: the attack against Paul Pelosi. Of course, we've talked about 273 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: the attack against Steve Skalie and what happened on January six. 274 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: The nation's head is spinning when it comes to this stuff. 275 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: Do you believe that lawmakers should have more security? Do 276 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: you find yourself or your family under threat as someone 277 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: who's running for public office. I think that obviously, political 278 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: violence of any type against anyone is completely unacceptable. It 279 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: must be condemned in the strongest terms. And we need 280 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: to ensure that the right uh measures of security are 281 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: available for for anyone. Um you know who's serving the public. 282 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: Particularly what we see here in the Hudson Valley is 283 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: a true public safety concerned UH globally where just a 284 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: few weeks ago in this congressional district, we had five 285 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: shootings in a single weekend, including a college father who 286 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: is visiting for a family weekend at a college shot 287 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: getting coffee in his hotel and killed. We have so 288 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: many commuters in this district, particularly going to New York City, 289 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: men and women who reached out to me that they're 290 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: scared to go to work. We had not heard, and 291 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: I think this is the voters have not heard. The 292 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: public has not heard from our governor, from the president, 293 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: from officials saying we want to make things safer for you. 294 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: We want to hire more police, we want to make 295 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: sure you haven't The president he says to fund the police. 296 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: He said that in his State of the Union address. UM, 297 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: but it's also been reported, and I'd love for you 298 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: to have an opportunity to tell our listeners. It's it's 299 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: been reported that you rallied with folks who went to 300 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: the capital on January six, the head of their trip 301 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: to d c UH. Did you have any sense of 302 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: what was going to happen? That data. You will regret 303 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: your association with them. This is a debunk lie that's 304 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: continued to be sued by the Democrat National Committee and 305 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: my opponent Pat Ryan. January six, I was invited, as 306 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: I've been many times, to address Orange County Rights to Life, 307 00:16:54,360 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: a faith based organization. It's all volunteers, senior citizens, local family. 308 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 1: You addressed them fairly frequently. They asked me on my 309 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: inauguration day, the day that I was being sworn in, 310 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: to address issues that were coming up on the first 311 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: day of legislative session. In all but nobody in that 312 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: group had anything to do with any violence or anything 313 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: that happened that day at all, and theyre continued to 314 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: be smeared. They were not at the capitol and nothing 315 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: to do with anything like that. This is why we're 316 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: smeared and our opponent deserve These people deserve an apology 317 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: from my opponent, and anyone who did do anything wrong, 318 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: which is no affiliation with these individuals, must be prosecuted 319 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: to the full extent of the law. Assemblymen, Colin Schmidt, 320 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: he's the Republican candidate in New York's eighteenth district. Thank 321 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: you for being with us on Bloomberg. Thank you for 322 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: having me. I appreciate and we assemble our panel now 323 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 1: as always, Rick Davis and Jeannie Chanzano make our signature 324 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: panel Bloomberg Politics contributors who somehow brings sense to all 325 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: of this every day. It's great to have you both here. 326 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: I thought it was important to have both candidates, you know, 327 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: not trying to gin up a debate here, but have 328 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: two adjacent interviews talking essentially along the same lines. They 329 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: really tried to sort of frame the questioning of for 330 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 1: for one interview the same as the next here and 331 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: talk about issues because Genie in New York and you 332 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 1: live in New York. That's what that special election was 333 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: was kind of heralded for the fact that it was 334 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: about policy, that it was about issues more than cultural differences. 335 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: Do you feel like that's the same this time around. Well, 336 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: you're so right there. Everybody is watching this race to 337 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: see if it is, as you mentioned, a microcosm or 338 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: rebell weather as to what's to come across the rest 339 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: of the nation, and you know, it's it's very close 340 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: to where I live and work, and it is one 341 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: that you know, we really don't have a very good 342 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: sense where to go where it's going to go. We 343 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: don't have enough polling directly of the district, and so 344 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: we rely on these national polls. But of course these 345 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: races are choices between two candidates, and that's why it's 346 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 1: so great to hear from both of them. You know, 347 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: pat Ryan is a very very um charismatic and successful 348 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: and you know, he really shocked the nation with his 349 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: race or the nineteenth and then to have to turn 350 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: around a few a few months later and run again 351 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: against a formidable component in Colin Schmidt, who's known in 352 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: the district. So it's gonna be a close race. And 353 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: I think the real question is what issues win the 354 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: day here. But you know they are both talking about 355 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: well Ryan's talking more about abortion than Schmidt, but they're 356 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: both focused on the economy. I hear it. And of 357 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: course Ryan is out rayed Schmidt three point for a 358 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: million about to one point eight million, So he's got 359 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: a cash advantage for sure. Rick. You look at this district, 360 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: this eighteenth districts, and the five thirty eight average of 361 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: poles has pat Ryan winning uh slightly favored sixty nine 362 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 1: out of a hundred. Of the odds they paid thirty 363 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: two out of a hundred for Schmidt. Did the issues 364 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: that will drive the decisions bubble up there? I mean, 365 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 1: is this really you don't want to oversimplify this too much? 366 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,719 Speaker 1: Like Pat Ryan said, there's room for more than one 367 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: issue in a campaign, but a lot of folks have 368 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: framed this as inflation for his abortion. Yeah, I mean, 369 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: I think what you're talking about where the drivers in 370 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: the issue? Right? There are a lot of issues that 371 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: are going to cut in these campaigns. What's driving to vote? 372 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: And I thought the point you made about suburban white women, uh, 373 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: you know, flipping from August, you know, around the time 374 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: Pat Ryan was elected or plus plus twelve for Democrats 375 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: to being now plus fifteen for GOP. That is a 376 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: really big move and that's all about the economy and inflation. Well, Jennie, 377 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: you'd start talking about I mean, you've made the point. 378 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: You live there. Do you buy those numbers? That was 379 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: a little bit of a weird sample, I want to 380 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: be clear, in that Wall Street Journal polls, a small 381 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: sample had a big margin of error to see a 382 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: move that big among a group that may well decide 383 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: the balance of power here in Washington. Never mind the 384 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: winner of this particular race is significant. It's significant, but 385 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: I was going to go right there. We're talking about 386 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: a very small subsample at you know, a hundred and 387 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: fifty voters with a margin of ERA plus or minus 388 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: eight percent. That's enormous. When you're talking these poles and 389 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: time they try to dig down like this, it's very 390 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: tough to get a good read. I think the most 391 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: we could say is there has been movement amongst this group, 392 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: just like the rest of the country, increasing focus on 393 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: cost of living inflation as the numbers get worse, quite frankly, 394 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: so that's real. The sleeper issue here is the one 395 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: that Schmidt mentioned. It is crime. I'm telling you, living 396 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 1: in New York, that is what you hear about more 397 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: often than not. Democrats winning on abortion, it's about Republicans 398 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: winning on the economy. But it's the crime and Democrats 399 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: are trying to make a move on that. And the 400 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: question is too little, too late, It's unclear, but New 401 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: Yorker is very concerned about the rate of crime, even 402 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: if the numbers don't support it. They're feeling that way, 403 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: and Republicans are talking about it. Pat Ryan is a 404 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: combat veteran, as you know, from the War in Iraq 405 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: rick uh. And in fact, Colin Schmidt is is actively serving. UH. 406 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: He shouldn't use the word actively. What's serving in the 407 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: Army National Garden. You know, he's doing his weekend and 408 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: doing his dy as well, and we thank him for 409 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: his service. I just wonder if that part of the story, 410 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: seeing a congressman like Pat Ryan with a combat veteran background, 411 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: you know, part of a growing class actually of veterans 412 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: who are who are coming back to serve in the House, 413 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: is meaningful to voters in New York or if that's 414 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: something that kind of goes right by you know. Look, 415 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: I think having a commitment to your country and serving 416 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: UM in the military, whether it's in the reserves or 417 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: active duty, is a strong bond with your community. Right. 418 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: It is your willingness to sacrifice a career, a family, 419 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: um education in order to do that. And so as 420 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: a baseline, I think it's great. As a differentia between 421 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: two candidates, both of them are in the service. I 422 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: don't think it makes any difference. I did think in 423 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: your interview Pat Ryan did a very nice jobum weaving 424 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: that into his narrative about you know, having an oath 425 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 1: of office and UH and so it's just my own 426 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: observation is he's he's playing that up more than than 427 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: college meant did in your interview. Does it resonate in 428 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: Hudson Valley, New York? Geniy? It does? And of course 429 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: West Point is on the Hudson River in their it's 430 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: in the district, beautiful place to visit, absolutely amazing school, 431 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: you know, no question, but yeah, it resonates there because 432 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: you've got a lot of people who live and work 433 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: in a family connections to West Point and other military 434 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: UH affiliations in this area. So I think it does. 435 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: It does ref you know, does resonate in that way? 436 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: Great talk with Rick and Genie, they're here all our 437 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: of course, our signature panel on the Fastest Hour in 438 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: Politics coming up. We turned to New Hampshire's quite a 439 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: debate last night, Senator Maggie Hasson fighting for her political 440 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: life against Don Baldock. And there are some incredible polling numbers. 441 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: You don't believe them when you first read them. This 442 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: race is changing as we speak. We're going to go 443 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: to st Ansom College and talk to an expert in 444 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: Chris Calgary coming up, and we'll reassemble our panel right 445 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: here on blue work sound on the situation we were 446 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: talking about nationally over the past several days. Republican momentum 447 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: and polls is the case apparently as well in New 448 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: Hampshire Granite State not an exception, as we see in 449 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: new numbers from st Anselm College. The Survey Center out 450 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: with just a remarkable set of numbers yesterday showing that 451 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: Don Baldock now leads the incumbent, Mackie Hasson, the Democrat, 452 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: as Hasson's favorability drops and Baldock's improves. This goes on 453 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: as you look down ballot, and it was the backdrop 454 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: for a debate last night at st Anselm, the final 455 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: debate televised between the incumbent and her Republican challenger. Here, 456 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: Senator Maggie hasn't last August saying he stood by that letter, 457 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: saying it was stolen and he wasn't switching horses, baby. 458 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: That was I think the exact quote. He then has 459 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: begun to cast out on the two elections now, saying 460 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: that there will be ballot dumps in the middle of 461 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 1: the night and referencing bus loads of unqualified, ineligible voters 462 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: coming to our poles. He hasn't going after Don Baldock 463 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: for his history as an election denier, but of course 464 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: that's something. Remember It's like the day after the primary 465 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: he went on Fox News and said, no, I looked 466 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 1: into it. Joe Biden won the election. Then it kind 467 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: of went back around a few more times. He was 468 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: asked about it last night. Was the election stolen or not? 469 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: And why does your answer keep changing? Well, it doesn't 470 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 1: keep changing, right, I have been consistent about it up 471 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: to the point you just you just gave an accurate analysis, 472 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: and I have said on fourteen September it was not stolen. 473 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: That's it. I'm not discussing it anymore. Okay. Then Christopher 474 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: Galdieri joins us. He's been in the middle of this 475 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: as a professor of politics at the were mentioned st 476 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: Anselm College in New Hampshire. And it's great to have 477 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: you here, Chris, it's been a while. Welcome to Bloomberg Radio. 478 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 1: You show as well that Caroline Levitt Republican challenger pulling 479 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: ahead of Representative Chris Pappas. What's going on in New Hampshire. Um, 480 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: I think a lot of what's going on is that 481 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: Republican voters are coming home to Republican candidates, even ones 482 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: who have you know who are who were not the 483 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: party's first choice for the party leadership's first choice. Um. 484 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: As the election draws near. So I think a lot 485 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,719 Speaker 1: of Republicans who might have had reservations about Don Bullbock, 486 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 1: for instance, um, now that the election is what five 487 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: six days away, Um, they're putting those reservations aside. You know, 488 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: he's gotten support from folks like Chris SNeW the states 489 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 1: perfectly normal Republican governor um to uh to uh to 490 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 1: vote for him. Um. And And so I think that's 491 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: means these this race is a lot sighter than a 492 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: lot of people thought it would be when Baltock won 493 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 1: the nomination. Well, that's for sure, My goodness, Mitch McConnell 494 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: kind of abandoned the state. He abandoned the race because 495 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: he wanted your your perfectly normal governor Chris and Nunu 496 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: to run for this seat. Republicans had really turned away 497 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: from it and said, well, you know, so much for 498 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: flipping the Senate. But my goodness, a couple of months 499 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: makes a big difference here, Chris, doesn't it It does? 500 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: And I also think you have to look at that 501 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: in the context of some of the other candidates you've 502 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: got in the country. You know, like when you've got 503 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: herschel Walker down in Georgia. God knows what's going to 504 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: happen in that race, but it's clearly not going to 505 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: be a slam dunk for either party. Um. I think 506 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: Republicans started looking around, Well, Buldock was, you know, compared 507 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: to say, you know, your JD. Vances and your herschel 508 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: Walker is a comparatively um, you know, not mainstream exactly candidate, 509 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: but looked a little bit like a state for beet 510 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: than some of those folks. When you consider Maggie Hassan's 511 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 1: tenure here, Christ, do you have a story to tell 512 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 1: us an incumbent that's supposed to be a pretty powerful 513 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: position to be in here as a US Senator Don 514 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: Balda comes out of nowhere with no money, uh, and 515 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: it's about to pull this off. Apparently, what is she 516 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: telling voters? Well, she's running hard on her records, her background, um, 517 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: not just as as senator and governor, but as the 518 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: mother of a son with special needs, and that led 519 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 1: her into politics in the first place. She's been doing 520 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 1: the standard incumbent um tactic of talking about constituent service. 521 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: What she's done for local business is what she's done 522 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: for the state's veterans. Um and and this is pretty 523 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: much in keeping with hass In style. You know, she 524 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: is a very focused, very disciplined campaigner. She has the 525 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: message that she wants to hit in a given debate 526 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: or a given speech or a given event. Uh, and 527 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: she hits it over and over and over again. And 528 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: it's one of those things that usually works pretty well 529 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: right up until the point that it doesn't. So I 530 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: think the question, um is whether this is the year 531 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: that that it's just not enough or does she pull 532 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: this out? I mean, because um, that's you know, when 533 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: you're talking about polls. I think that's um, you know, 534 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: kind a coin flip at this point. Um So, Chris, 535 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 1: I bet your classes are wild lately. Chris Calderia, I 536 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: appreciate you come back and see as soon. Professor of 537 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: Politics at st Anselm College in New Hampshire, of course, 538 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: the center of the political universe, Rick Davis. You know 539 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,959 Speaker 1: New Hampshire. They love John McCaine up in New Hampshire. 540 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: How did Don Baldock pull this off with local Republicans? Well, 541 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: part of it was he did what Dundald that John 542 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: McCain did. He did you know over seventy town halls 543 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: and New Hampshire. It's loved their town halls. We proved 544 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: that to be a winning formula. And Uh, he put 545 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: himself out there in front. Uh, And I'm sure he 546 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: got grilled with questions, but I guess his answers were 547 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: enough to convince people that they were going to give 548 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: him a second look. And I think it's exactly what uh, 549 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: you were just talking about. You know, Republicans had a 550 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: lot of questions some Republicans about Bulldock and and the 551 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: fact that you know, part of the establishment sort of 552 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: came around and embraced him. Check that box and you 553 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: see that now solidifying. Um, it's a it's a real 554 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: amazing thing because of course, you know, Bulldock was the 555 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: Republican Democrats thought they could beat the most and actually 556 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: helped him get the nomination by putting money into his campaign. 557 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: And now it looks like he's going to turn the 558 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: tables on him. Well. Of course, pulling off a leading 559 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: the polls is one thing. Can he actually pull off 560 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: a win? Will ask Genie Chanzano next? This we continue 561 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: with our signature panel on Bloomberg Sound On, and we'll 562 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: move to Rick's favorite state of Arizona, where Barack Obama 563 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: touchdown last night to talk about deniers the same time 564 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: Joe Biden was talking about it in d C. This 565 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: is Bloomberg. You're listening to Bloomberg. You sound on with 566 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. When you see numbers move 567 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: this much, this fast, you have to wonder what's going on, 568 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: Although it does track with the momentum we've been talking 569 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: about zeroing in today on Bloomberg. Sound on the State 570 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: of New Hampshire, or at least this part of the hour, 571 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: with these numbers we were discussing from st Anselm, with 572 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: the panel showing Republicans across the board in New Hampshire 573 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: on the rise, their pole standings on the rise, their 574 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: favorability is on the rise, while unfavorable for the Democrats 575 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: also continue to rise. The one exception tends to be 576 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: represented Annie Custer, who is leading her Republican opponent by 577 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: eight points, but the Senator Maggie Hassan now trailing Don Baldock. 578 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: We reassemble the panel with Rick Davis and Gen Chanzano, 579 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,959 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Politics contributors. Uh, what is the poster inside? You 580 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: tell you, Genie at this point when you see numbers 581 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: change this much and so quickly, not unlike the white 582 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: suburban women number, we saw a move in the Wall 583 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: Street Journal poll. But on a state level, this is 584 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: a surging Republican party, it is, And unlike when you're 585 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: talking about a subsample like white suburban women or any others, 586 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: this is statewide. And so this does, I think, show 587 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: that Republicans have taken a look. They may have been 588 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: nervous about Baldock and some of these others, and with 589 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: Democrats supporting and pushing him through to the nomination, but 590 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: they are, to Chris's point, seemed to be returning home 591 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: to a normal position. And I think that's what made 592 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: the debate last night so important. There was still by 593 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: the sinance on poll, someone decided, and the question was 594 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: did Maggie Hassan do enough to keep them with her 595 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: essentially or were they just going to go back to 596 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: the Republican And I have to say, watching that debate 597 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: last night, it was not a great performance by Maggie Hassan. 598 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: She seemed loyally scripted, methodical. She played into everyone of 599 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: baldock stereotypes of her as an insider establishment versus him 600 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: as the outsider. It was a really really difficult performance 601 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,239 Speaker 1: for her, and he really seemed to get more and 602 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: more aggressive and have more fun as the night went on, 603 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: got under her skin, and it was not a good 604 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: ending for her at all. She had the one good 605 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: night good line about that you played at the at 606 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: the top about his election denial story and tying him 607 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: to the Trump endorsement. But besides that, she was not 608 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: answering questions and he kept calling her out on that 609 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: and being an insider in Washington. So tough for her 610 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: last night. His performance, Rick is has he been learning 611 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: on the trail? He did seem to uh to have 612 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: some control of the conversation and was disciplined on Hey, 613 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: I'm an outsider, I'm not a politician. Yeah. I think 614 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: that playing the outsider card was an effective tool for him. Uh, 615 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: he is an outsider. He's not a polished politician. He 616 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: doesn't have all those kinds of spin moves that uh 617 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: Jane was just saying about Senator Hassan and and look, 618 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: we got to remind herselves she was one of the 619 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: most vulnerable Democrats going into this cycle, very unpopular in 620 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: her own home state. She was in the category of 621 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: anybody could beat her. Now we're actually seeing anybody could 622 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: beat her. Uh. As you say, elections still gotta happen. 623 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: But this is one that even McConnell got wrong, and 624 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: he's not used to, you know, admitting that he might 625 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: have blinked when he shouldn't have. Onto Arizona. This is 626 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: the latest stop on the national tour by the former 627 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: president Barack Obama. These are events that Joe Biden might 628 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: otherwise beholding, but this is the climate that we're in. 629 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: What he was really going after deniers last night and 630 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 1: his look, we've discussed a lot of the candidates, a 631 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: lot of the Republican candidates in Arizona are deniers with you, 632 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: the governor carry Lake, uh, candidates for attorney General and 633 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: Secretary of State. And he was going for less. This opponent, 634 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: another election denier, exaggerated his experience, made anti cemented comments. 635 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: Adrian's opponent was at the cop was at the capitol 636 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: on January six. He was actually there. I mean he 637 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 1: might not have been the guy with the Viking helmet, 638 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:56,800 Speaker 1: but he was there. Has ties to far right anti 639 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 1: government militia. Come on, people, Sena was perfectly fine for 640 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: people to spend ballot drop boxes Karen Weapons. This is 641 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: the guy, this is the Barack Obama we're seeing on 642 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: the stump, this incredulous former president who doesn't seem to 643 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 1: have much to lose here at this point. But Genie, 644 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: is he helping or hurting? What's the impact of this? 645 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 1: He is having some fun out there, and it is 646 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: a rallising rally that because we're not getting him from 647 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: the president, we're getting him from the former president. You know. 648 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: I think he's doing everything he can to drum up 649 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: the base, and in an election that was looking like 650 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,280 Speaker 1: it's going to be very close, that may be very helpful. 651 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: His message is strong, and he has been on point, 652 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: and he underscored what Joe Biden was saying last night 653 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 1: in a much more um, you know, entertaining, if you will, 654 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: stylistically probably appetizing way um that election deniers are on 655 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: the ballot and democracy may not survive in Arizona if 656 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 1: they elect this slate of Republican candidates. Well, you know 657 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: Arizona as well as anyone when it comes to politics here, Rick, 658 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: who is who what what is the slice of the 659 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: electorate in Arizona. Who's going to react to that and 660 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: vote for a Democrat or is this a waste of time? 661 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: You know, Look, I mean the county, Americopa County, one 662 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: of the largest in the country. UM, really controls most 663 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 1: of the election outcomes in the last you know, two decades. 664 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,919 Speaker 1: Uh and and we've talked about them earlier in this show. 665 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:31,240 Speaker 1: You know, Uh, suburban women are the swing within Maricopa County, 666 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: and so will suburban women see Kerry Lake Lake, the 667 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: Republican challenger and an election denier in the past, uh 668 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: as someone that they can park their vote on because 669 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,720 Speaker 1: of economic issues, because of some of these cultural issues, 670 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: especially those that affect schools. Um or even on the 671 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: border issues. UH. I do think Carry Lake has made 672 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 1: in effective use of talking about fent and all, you know, 673 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: coming through the border and affecting everybody's community. That is 674 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: a big deal in Arizona. Uh and and and it's 675 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,399 Speaker 1: not just the Trump line on the border, it's it's 676 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: a little more nuanced. So UM, she's gonna win rural 677 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: votes uh and uh and most of the city votes 678 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,240 Speaker 1: are gonna go to Katie hobbs her opponent, and these 679 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: suburban women are going to make up the difference to 680 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 1: that's how Joe Biden won in a decidedly red state 681 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 1: last time. And and if carry Lake is gonna win, 682 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 1: she's gonna need them to bring him home. Well, he 683 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 1: was having some fun with carry Lake last evening. I 684 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: don't know if if anybody you know I sit around 685 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: and watch these speeches instead of having a life here. 686 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 1: But I I didn't know about this, so some people 687 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: don't know this. But apparently carry Lake actually interviewed me 688 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: back in when I was present. She was a local 689 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:49,879 Speaker 1: news anchor. She was doing her job. I have to admit, uh, 690 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: I don't have, you know, clear memory of the interview. 691 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 1: It's a little fuzzy, but I do know this. At 692 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 1: the time, I don't remember are thinking that she was 693 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: the kind of person who would push debunked COVID remedies 694 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 1: or a promise the issue a declaration of invasion at 695 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:16,320 Speaker 1: our border, or claim without any evidence that election was stolen. 696 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: But of course they weren't talking about carry Lake. Then 697 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,280 Speaker 1: they were talking about Barack Obama, and I thought, my gosh, 698 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: well that's got to still be around, right Thank God 699 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,720 Speaker 1: for the Internet. There it is the carry lake inside 700 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: there in the White House. You know they they'll do 701 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: this stuff where they have like local reporters day, or 702 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: at least they used to back then. Do they still 703 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: do that, Matt the Biden. Yeah, and you know it's 704 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: like the highlight of their careers. Of course, it would 705 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 1: be your invite to the White House. You get five 706 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: minutes or less with the president. This is a carry 707 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: like Fox ten Phoenix. If the election were tomorrow, it's 708 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 1: a rite in ballot and your vote decides it who 709 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 1: is Well, look, obviously I'm gonna be voting for the 710 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: Democratic but if if you write in whoever you want, 711 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: maybe somebody who's not even run, if you could choose, oh, 712 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 1: I I think we'll have a terrific Democratic nominee. And 713 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 1: I'm confident that they will be a great president. And 714 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to be working as hard as I can. 715 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 1: But right now, you know, it's something American people decide. 716 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: This is May of I can't tell you my secret ballot. 717 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 1: You don't talk about who you vote for. Absolutely, but 718 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 1: Donald Trump will make America. I haven't thought too much 719 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: about it because I don't think Donald Trump's gonna end 720 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: up being president and you still stand by that absolutely. 721 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Thank you appreciate. Harry Lake and 722 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 1: Barack Obama. What do you guys think of that? And 723 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:41,399 Speaker 1: she's asking about make America great again? Maybe we should 724 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: be paying more attention to these local interviews. Rick, Actually, 725 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: I think that's an indication of why we shouldn't pay more. 726 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: It was seven, I said, Fox ten or something like 727 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: that New Center seven one on one. Genie, what'd you 728 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,919 Speaker 1: learn from that? I learned Joe Matthew that last night 729 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: you went and you listened to this speech. I love 730 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,720 Speaker 1: what a political animal you are. And then you actually 731 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 1: because I heard the speech, but then you actually went 732 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: on and looked it up. And so you've done me proud, 733 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,399 Speaker 1: Joe Matthew. And yeah, and I've got to say that, 734 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: you know, hearing carry like like that, I mean, he 735 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: just underscores the hypocrisy of this race that she is running, 736 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 1: and she likely is going to have a very good 737 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 1: shot of winning. And I think in part we have 738 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: to admit Katie Hobbs has not very much like you know, 739 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 1: we were just talking about in New Hampshire UM with 740 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: the Senate candidate Maggie Hassan. They are not going out 741 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: on the stump. As Rick mentioned, you see Bulldock seventies 742 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 1: six or so town halls carry like all over Arizona. 743 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 1: Katie Hobbs shying away from being out there and debating, 744 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 1: And I think it's a big mistake. Yes, should Katie Hobbs, 745 00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: now that we're five days out here, Rick, should she 746 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: have debated carry like despite all the denier business? Would 747 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,839 Speaker 1: this be a different race? You know, Look, I mean 748 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 1: it may be worse actually for Katie Hobbs she debated, 749 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,879 Speaker 1: but she still should have debated, right, she should give 750 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: the people of Arizona a chance to compare and contrast. 751 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 1: Like virtually every other candidate in America, what makes her 752 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,399 Speaker 1: special none? So Yeah, she should have put herself out there. 753 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: Maybe it would have made it worse, Maybe it would 754 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 1: have made it better. But like to deny voters the 755 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,720 Speaker 1: chance to see the two of them side by side 756 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: just because she's not quote a great debater, Rick Davis, 757 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: Jennie Chantino or signature panel. We'll be back with more 758 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 1: tomorrow on the Fastest Hour in Politics. If you showed 759 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,320 Speaker 1: up late, subscribe to the podcast. I'm Joe Matthew. This 760 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 1: is Bloomberg