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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the solid verbal Boys and girls, my

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Speaker 1: Hill and Bray. That fine gentleman over there, the one,

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Speaker 3: is that Oregon green? Is that what that is?

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Speaker 1: It's Bucky's green tie, the rest stop of choice of

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Speaker 1: show by saying, Kansas, Kansas, Kansas, James, James Madison, Madison,

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Speaker 1: James Madison, Madison, Madison, James Madison Madison, the only FBS

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Speaker 3: That is correct, That is correct. We've got all sorts

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Speaker 3: of James Madison in State of Kansas. Goodness that we're

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Speaker 3: it was a crazy week. We had various names that

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Speaker 3: I looked at all of the action as I typically

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite moments. Yesterday was much more of

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Speaker 1: four actually meant implication wise, you going two and three

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Speaker 1: with your five picks? Tie woff, tie, yeah, woff? What

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Speaker 1: But otherwise, long day, great day, unexpected day, which is

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Speaker 1: all to say, a perfect college football day for some

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Speaker 3: To put a bow on week four.

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Speaker 2: As a Colorado State fan, I've learned we are win

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Speaker 1: Thanks again for picking Iowa State over Baylor.

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Speaker 3: I think the extremely zoomed out viewpoint on this game

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Speaker 3: The offense was not an issue for them. It's not

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Speaker 1: Do we really want to live in universe in which

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Speaker 1: Duce Von continues to be duce Von. I mean that

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Speaker 3: Are you back in the k State bandwagon now because

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Speaker 3: I need more detail on the exact level of involvement Ted.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I don't believe he's calling the plays, but I

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Speaker 3: we need to be doing with ted Roof, Like, keep

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Speaker 1: He can.

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Speaker 3: He can fix the defense. He will fix the defense.

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Speaker 3: It's what he's good at.

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Speaker 1: I have no doubt.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So the equivalent is what ted Roof with a

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Speaker 3: So about Clemson Wake Forest double overtime huho whoo. A

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Speaker 3: But is there really any reason to doubt Sam Hartman,

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Speaker 3: but coming into this game, sixty four percent of opposing

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Speaker 3: passes were completed against Clemson. They weren't necessarily allowing big

439
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 3: chunk plays, but they also weren't getting sacks. So just

440
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 3: sort of in like that gray area where they're good

441
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 3: enough to not get burnt deep, but they're not good

442
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,880
Speaker 3: enough to stop their intermediate stuff and they're not good

443
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:39,199
Speaker 3: enough to like blanket guys so that you're preventing in completions.

444
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,640
Speaker 3: The success rates allowed on the passing side were really

445
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 3: high for the Clemson defense, and it showed in this game.

446
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 3: It showed in this game. Sam Hartman's a good quarterback.

447
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 3: He was able to pick them apart. Clemson was able

448
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 3: to do what it had to.

449
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Speaker 1: In order to win this football game.

450
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 3: They got tough yards from Will Shipley, DJU got tough yards.

451
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 3: I mean, this was a pretty effort really on both

452
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 3: sides of this thing. But you know, and certainly not

453
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 3: to take anything away from Clemson with the win that

454
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 3: they got here, this is a tough win for them

455
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 3: against a good team. But I just keep coming back

456
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 3: to the defense thinking, I thought coming into the year,

457
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 3: this is going to be a shutdown unit and at

458
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,440
Speaker 3: least against the pass. They have not proven so thus far.

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Speaker 1: I just I mean, look, Sam Hartman's been there forever.

460
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 1: It's an offense custom built for him. It's there are

461
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: playmakers there. This is it's an ideal situation quarterback passing

462
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Speaker 1: game wise that Wake Forrest has at the moment. They

463
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Speaker 1: do this to pretty much. Ever, they didn't do it

464
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Speaker 1: to Clemson last year. Not a lot of teams even

465
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Speaker 1: like Kenny Pickett was held relatively and check against his

466
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: Clemson defense last year, as was Devin Leary. But I

467
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 1: don't know how many of these guys are you really

468
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 1: scared of on Clemson? Like do you think Malie Hunningham's

469
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 1: gonna go off? Do you think Devin Leary and the

470
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Speaker 1: timback offense is going to suddenly get way better in

471
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,480
Speaker 1: a big spot like find that game last year, possible

472
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: Monsoon game next week. Okay, so that's a nice thing

473
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Speaker 1: for Clemson to have the monsoon advantage. Dabo is probably

474
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: undefeated in monsoon's I think, you know, bring your own guts,

475
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Speaker 1: et cetera. So yes, we can worry about Clemson for

476
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: all sorts of reasons, the consistency reasons, the offensive stop

477
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Speaker 1: and stardiness. The corner is getting burnt by Wake's receivers.

478
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Speaker 1: But Wake just might be really good and Clemson might

479
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 1: just be what's the dabbo term, the roy bust the

480
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,439
Speaker 1: rest of y'all. They might he uses that like in

481
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 1: a facetious dumb aw shucks kind of way, but they

482
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 1: might be getting closer to the rest of y'all. So

483
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Speaker 1: that's where I stand with Clemson. An incredible win to

484
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Speaker 1: pull out because Wake is a tough, tough out to

485
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Speaker 1: win that game on the road to absorb what they absorbed.

486
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Speaker 1: I know Will Shipley didn't do much. He had the

487
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Speaker 1: long run of the beginning, but then he wasn't really

488
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: a factor in this game. It was more Dju making

489
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Speaker 1: plays downfield the tight end to merge for Clemson, and like,

490
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Speaker 1: if you're giving up what you give up to Wake

491
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Speaker 1: in a winning effort. Yes, there are questions about the defense,

492
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,199
Speaker 1: are questions about the pass rush and the secondary, but

493
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: what do we say, ty win those clunkers win your clunkers.

494
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: And for whatever narrative you want to choose about clem

495
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: since present. In future, winning games better than losing games.

496
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,679
Speaker 3: Let's go to another overtime game. Texas Tech thirty seven

497
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,479
Speaker 3: Texas thirty four. This one went overtime as well. This

498
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 3: is a fun game.

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Speaker 1: I would like an apology from you actually for taking

500
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Speaker 1: Texas Tech amid all of the hate.

501
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 3: I you know, I've been beleaguered for my Texas Tech

502
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 3: beliefs really from the jump. It's cruel, it's unjust, and

503
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 3: I would just like if you'd like to shower me

504
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Speaker 3: with apologies. At this point, I I can hit pause,

505
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 3: I can mute my mic and.

506
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Speaker 1: Just allow you to do so. Who'd you take in

507
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 1: this game? Ty? I took Texas Tech. Are you sure? Yeah?

508
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: I know you took Texas Tech and tie versus the world. Okay,

509
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: it was a great win. It was a great win

510
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Speaker 1: for Texas Tech. You did notice the gumpiness. You didn't

511
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Speaker 1: necessarily call like I could see Quen you were was

512
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 1: getting hurt ahead of the Texas Tech game. You didn't

513
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Speaker 1: call that ahead of the season. I did not.

514
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 3: I did, but I didn't know what quin yours was

515
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 3: before the season. We didn't know what to expect out

516
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Speaker 3: of him.

517
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Speaker 1: But also Texas Tech with out their starting quarterback.

518
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Speaker 3: To be clear, do you remember our old joke about

519
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 3: James Franklin the casual dress, the quarterback not the coach,

520
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 3: the Missouri quarterback not the coach, and the David Yost

521
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 3: don't move your feet quarterback coaching system. Yeah, this felt

522
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 3: like a casual dress Texas defense, like like the kind

523
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 3: of effort you see when you're watching defenses in the

524
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Speaker 3: Pro Bowl. That's how it felt watching this. It goes

525
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 3: without saying if you look at the box score, if

526
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,159
Speaker 3: you watch the game, Texas couldn't get off the field.

527
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 3: Tech really dominated this game in a couple different ways.

528
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 3: They executed their game plan in that they kept the

529
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Speaker 3: ball for eleven more.

530
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Speaker 1: Minutes of possession.

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Speaker 3: They had six drives of ten players or more, including

532
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Speaker 3: an eighteen play drive that went for almost eight minutes

533
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Speaker 3: in a touchdown. The first time they saw the ball

534
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Speaker 3: in the first quarter, they ran about and I tried

535
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Speaker 3: to add this up. I'm not good at math. I'm

536
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 3: sure I screwed it up. They ran ninety eight plays

537
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Speaker 3: or thereabouts in regulation, twenty eight of which were either

538
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Speaker 3: third or fourth down at ten, which means that's seventy

539
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 3: were not Yeah, so they were really good at staying

540
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 3: in front of the chains on first and second downs,

541
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Speaker 3: which is just a killer for an opposing defense. The

542
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 3: Texas defense was on the field a great deal in

543
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 3: this game. And that's all to say that Donovan Smith,

544
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 3: who who you kind of you besmirched the name of

545
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 3: Donovan Smith by saying he's a battle of quarterback. He's

546
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 3: a really good quote. He looked really.

547
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Speaker 1: Good in this game. Yeah, sort of sort of. He

548
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 1: had a command. No, no, no, he had command. He

549
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: wasn't going downfield a ton. No, I wasn't making pet

550
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: Texas paid. It was a lot of shorter pickleballly type

551
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: stuff in a winning effort. You're right, a lot of

552
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: underneath stuff that he had to do.

553
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Speaker 3: I think I saw their average yards per pass with

554
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 3: something like five and a half or five.

555
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,719
Speaker 1: Point eight yards. Right, No, it wasn't.

556
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 3: It wasn't like a downfield threat Donovan Smith passing attack

557
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 3: or anything like that. But he was very confident. We

558
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 3: saw him run for some big yards in this game,

559
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 3: which is interesting because Donovan Smith is not really.

560
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: Known as a runner.

561
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 3: But he's got this I don't know how much of

562
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 3: this game you watch, he's got this move where he

563
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 3: puts his foot in the ground and makes a hard

564
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 3: juke in the opposite direction. Texas fell for it the

565
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 3: whole game. The whole he was using that on short

566
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 3: yardage situations to get an extra two three yards. He

567
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 3: was really really good in this entire football game. And

568
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 3: you know, I think it all stems from Joey McGuire.

569
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 3: We had the reverbs saying pay the man his money,

570
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 3: a little bit of a spin off of Jerry McGuire there,

571
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Speaker 3: But Joey McGuire went into this one saying, efet we're

572
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 3: playing Texas, We're going to go for it on like

573
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 3: all the fourth downs. And he went for it eight times,

574
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 3: got six of them. Yeah, that attitude, you could see it.

575
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 3: You could see it on the field. Texas Tech with

576
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 3: just a really gutty effort here at home to win

577
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 3: this one.

578
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, it's just the right approach to me,

579
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Speaker 1: It's the right approach to football when you are a

580
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: home dog, when there's a lot of emotion there and

581
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: if your strength is moving the ball, which is probably

582
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Speaker 1: where Texas Tech is going to be in the short

583
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: to medium term. On fourth and twos, go on fourth

584
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: and threes, go like, what are we trying to over strategize,

585
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: for like, you want to give Bejeon Robinson more opportunities,

586
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: that's what you want to do with your your game

587
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: at home with a frenzied crowd.

588
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 2: No.

589
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: So, I really appreciated the aggression from Texas Tech. And

590
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: you're right about the Texas defense not being able to

591
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: get off the field. I actually thought Hudson Card made

592
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: a bunch of really impressive plays, especially considering he's been

593
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: beat up Bjehon Robinson sort of weirdly disappeared at times,

594
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: just in terms of not getting opportunities. But yeah, man,

595
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: Texas Tech and an incredible performance. The least important of

596
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: which is at some point we're going to have to

597
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: have a conversation about Sark sunglasses, the ski ball ass

598
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: sunglasses he wears with the orange temples. They do look

599
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,959
Speaker 1: like freebies that he got at a convention. Great with sunglasses,

600
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: great with all, they're not great. They look their tote

601
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: bag sunglasses and we need to move on. That's all.

602
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: How much is he getting paid to wear those?

603
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 2: Oh?

604
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: Too much money? Probably? No, I think again, I am

605
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: confident Texas will continue to improve despite evidence sometimes to

606
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: the contrary. Just beware of the September win loss, which

607
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: is what that Alabama game was. Just beware of it.

608
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: Don't look too much into Oh they lost, but man,

609
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: they hung with somebody great, doesn't matter, doesn't matter. They

610
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: got up for that game and they're going to revert

611
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: to the mean. That's what happens. It's improvement. Can be

612
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: a little bit a sharper incline right now because of

613
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: the portal, but it's gradual. It's gradual, and to expect

614
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: otherwise because Texas almost beat Alabama. No, it's a week

615
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: to week thing. It's not what you do in your

616
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: best game in September. What do you look like in

617
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: your third best game? What do you look like on

618
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: your ninth best throw of the game. And that's where

619
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: Adrian Martinez was, By the way, his ninth best throw

620
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: was way better than his ninth best throw earlier games,

621
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Speaker 1: earlier seasons. Whatever. So still up on Texas long term,

622
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: but no, not right now.

623
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Speaker 3: By the way, Texas Tech travels to k State next

624
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 3: week in what appears to be a double letdown spot

625
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 3: that we're gonna have to preview when we do the Week.

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00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: Five show man. Yeah, we'll talk more about right, Let's

627
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: talk about let's talk about talk about this Miami game.

628
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 3: Lat's what the hell is going on with Miami?

629
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Speaker 1: Cryst of all?

630
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 3: Okay, forty five to thirty one. Middle Tennessee knocks off

631
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 3: the Canes. The swagger is bad, not so much, not

632
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 3: so much. It may be time to update and just

633
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 3: slip out the side door with my Miami prediction the

634
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 3: ACC Coastal.

635
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: Brett McMurphy picking the Canes is a playoff team. Might

636
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: be time to just surreptitiously apply a little wide out

637
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: and right in pit to win the Coastal maybe the

638
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: whole damn thing. Who knows what the ACC.

639
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 3: Rick stock still with his quote after the game, it

640
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 3: was a butt kicking from the very beginning. Jalen Rivers,

641
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 3: the offensive lineman from Miami, says, quote, we at that team,

642
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 3: Oh we're going to win this game. Obviously, we came

643
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 3: in unmotivated and we got punched in the mouth. Middle

644
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 3: Tennessee never trailed. They forced turnovers on Miami's first three possessions.

645
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 3: They got three stops on fourth down attempts scored on

646
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 3: passes of sixty nine, seventy one, and ninety eight yards.

647
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 3: Also an eighty nine yard are in there just as

648
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 3: a bit of insult to injury. Dan Tyler Van Dyke

649
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 3: slash formerly Dime polled in favor of Jake Garcia, who

650
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 3: came in for Miami and actually gave him a little

651
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 3: bit of a spark off the bench. So a lot

652
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 3: wrong here with Miami, and I wish I could say

653
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 3: this were an isolated incident, but we've seen other cases

654
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 3: this year. I forget who Miami played the week before

655
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 3: Texas A and m but it was the same deal.

656
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: There right where. It was like Southern mess I believe, Yeah.

657
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:52,239
Speaker 3: Kind of like a very sluggish start that they were

658
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 3: able to rectify in the end. But obviously they weren't

659
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 3: able to. Middle Tennessee kept scoring. We kept watching the

660
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 3: scoreboards seeing Middle ten he putting up points on the board.

661
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 3: So a big win for them, good for Rick stockstill.

662
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 3: But on the Miami Mario Crystal ball side, Dan oof

663
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 3: big ol'oof here.

664
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, take the positive first that Middle Tennessee was not

665
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: scared of Miami from the jump, with the turnovers, with

666
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: getting the ball to speed like untouched speed. By the way,

667
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: let's not just talk about how the Miami defense got

668
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: gashed by Middle Tennessee. Bike like five eight, one hundred

669
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: and seventy three pound receivers untouched running tunnel screens or

670
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: going downfield. I don't know, man, It's again, it's September

671
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: of year one of a new coach. There are going

672
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: to be growing pains across the board, unless you have

673
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: like an internal hire on a playoff caliber system whatever,

674
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: and even then they're just going to be growing pains.

675
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: Mario Chris Ball not a new coach though, Tyler Van

676
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: Dyke not a new quarterback. A lot of these guys

677
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: on this Miami team, on both sides, are not new

678
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: to college football, have won ACC games, came in as

679
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: blue chip type players, had spring, had summer, had fall

680
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: to figure out how to maximize what they are. This

681
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: is what Mario Christabal does quarterbacks justin Herbert, Tyler Shuck,

682
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown, Tyler Van Dyke. I think they have a

683
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: blue chip quarterback in the incoming class at least as

684
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: of now. It's you're getting a taste. You're getting to taste.

685
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: Miami fans. They will be better, but they're gonna lose

686
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: these games, or they're going to play a down team

687
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: and beat them by seven. They're gonna beat a team

688
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: they're favored by twenty nine and a half against and

689
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: beat them by seven. That's sort of the way this

690
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: kind of system unfolds. So I don't know, it's it's

691
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: gonna get better because it can't get much worse than

692
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: losing in front of I don't know, twenty eight hundred people,

693
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: does it say twenty people? Yeah? So yeah, I don't

694
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: know what Mario Christobal does to these quarterbacks, the mario opathy,

695
00:34:55,520 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: mariopathy that is involved in this relationship. But if i'm

696
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: I think it's Jayden Reshada from northern California. Yeah, yeah,

697
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,280
Speaker 1: and travel across the country to playing this kind of Okay,

698
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,479
Speaker 1: all right, so that's all. That's all. Miami is gonna

699
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: be fine. But get used to this manner of foot. Great, great, Yeah,

700
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: let's go to Mario's former team.

701
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 3: You're Oregon Ducks. Forty four to forty one is a wow,

702
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 3: freaking holy cow. Oregon down thirty four to twenty two

703
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 3: with about six minutes left, they scored twenty two points

704
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 3: in the.

705
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: Span of five minutes.

706
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, first on a one yard touchdown pass to Cam McCormick,

707
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 3: then very quickly a fifty yarder Detroit Franklin a nice

708
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 3: throw from bow Nicks and then on a twenty seven

709
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 3: yard pick six in the ensuing Washington State possession that

710
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 3: gave them a forty four to thirty four lead and

711
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 3: a miraculous seeming front door cover. Sorry dogs, Yeah, gamblers

712
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 3: in the streets clang in pots and pans out there.

713
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: We're shooting off fireworks.

714
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 3: Not so fast, my friend, not so fast, my friend.

715
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 3: Wazu gets the ball back. There is no quit in

716
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 3: this team. Seven plays, seventy nine yards, forty nine seconds later,

717
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 3: Nikia Watson leaps into the end zone to grab the

718
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 3: back door cover. Wild finish here, talk me through this game.

719
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: Very strange as somebody personally invested in the outcome. Oregon

720
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: was gashing Washington State repeatedly between the tens right right

721
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 1: up until the ten yard line or the red zone

722
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: or whatever, and they really struggled to put the ball

723
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: into the end zone in the first half, just with

724
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: opportunity after opportunity. Kenny Dillingham and the team did not

725
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: execute anything successfully. Washington State, to their credit, stepped up

726
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: made plays in the red zone on defense. Cam Ward

727
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 1: not I wouldn't say he's an excellent quarterback just because

728
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: he wasn't going downfield successfully really, but he is a

729
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: playmaker in terms of his improvisation, in terms of his

730
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: ability to keep a play alive, move the chains. He's

731
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: really impressive. He is really, really quite impressive. Wasu was

732
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: not able to do much on the ground much on defense,

733
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: and as the game wore on, Oregon's doing this sort

734
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: of they're trying to do what Georgia was successful in doing,

735
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: just with better players. They rotated a ton of guys

736
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: on defense, and it seemed that Oregon had fresher legs

737
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,479
Speaker 1: in the second half on defense, and they were making

738
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: real stupid mistakes trying to lose this game with hands

739
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: to the face and you know, the targeting call, and

740
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 1: they were just they were bailing out Washington State far

741
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: too often. But that's what losing teams do, right. Washington

742
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: State was in a really nice position to win this game.

743
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 1: But sometimes it's not what you do, it's how you respond.

744
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: And what Oregon was able to do on offense and

745
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 1: responding to the mistakes they were making in the first

746
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: half with what they were able to do in the

747
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: second half, they sort of kept going at wazoo. They

748
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: called a better game in the red zone, they completed

749
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 1: drives right. Franklin looks like he is one of the

750
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: best receivers in the Pac twelve. I know it's kind

751
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: of an interesting stocked receiver conference with what's happening at USC,

752
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: but he really stepped up and he's going to be

753
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: the go to option for bo Nicks. And other than

754
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: a pretty awful pick six from bow Knicks, he was terrific.

755
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: He looked really comfortable. He made all of the right throws,

756
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: He went downfield when it was appropriate, He hit guys

757
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: on all three levels. He made plays with his legs.

758
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: He is I mean, we like to joke about good

759
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 1: bow and bad bow, but that one pass was horrific.

760
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: But otherwise he was a really strong quarterback in a

761
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: tough spot.

762
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 3: I was texting with our friend Tim Murray, Yeah, and

763
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 3: I was. I told him on that bow Knicks pass

764
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 3: that and this is true. I threw that exact pass

765
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 3: when I was playing Madden twenty three earlier in the day, Like.

766
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: Just didn't see him, Yeah, floated it.

767
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 3: Up to the running back and boom boom came back

768
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 3: to bite him. I thought bow Knicks looked good. We

769
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 3: mostly got good bow Knicks in this game. With the

770
00:38:58,719 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 3: exception of bad bow.

771
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: Bad boat comes out when you don't want him to.

772
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: But I don't even know how much they called the

773
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: same play twice. Yeah, and the Wazoo backer just sort

774
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: of sat in the lane and saw the formation and

775
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: saw how everything was unfolding and sat in the lane,

776
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: and it was a great play by him. I actually

777
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: came away impressed by both teams.

778
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure that I'm sure that we could nitpick,

779
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 3: and of course the people joking about cooging it giving

780
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 3: away the lead late for Washington State, and we could

781
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 3: tell that joke if we want to. But I just

782
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 3: think that this Washington State team, I for one, was

783
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 3: very much undervaluing the level of fighting this team, what

784
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 3: they can do on defense. I mean, I know the

785
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 3: score here isn't exactly indicative of any kind of defensive

786
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 3: slug fest, but you know, they can make plays on defense,

787
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 3: cam Ward, as he said, as a playmaker, they're gonna

788
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 3: give teams fits. I want to talk about USC next,

789
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 3: if we can move to USC here quickly. But you know,

790
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 3: I was thinking about Washington State in particular when I

791
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 3: looked at the USC result here seventeen to fourteen on

792
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 3: the Road in Corvallis. This is a seven to three game,

793
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 3: seven to three in favor of Oregon State until the

794
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 3: final quarter. USC needed a twenty one yard touchdown pass

795
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 3: to Jordan Addison with about a minute left to take

796
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 3: the lead. This one was a weirdly defensive game, and

797
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 3: USC continued doing what it's done all year, and that

798
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 3: is getting interceptions. They picked off Chance Nolan four times

799
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 3: in this game, which was ultimately the difference. USC quietly

800
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 3: leads all of the FBS with eleven interceptions, had done

801
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 3: it all season. Granted, Boo booed a little bit by

802
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 3: this game in four interceptions and four interceptions in the

803
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 3: Rice game in Week one, but this is a defense

804
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 3: that has created opportunities for a really good offense.

805
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: On that front.

806
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 3: This was an absolute clunker. This was an absolute clunker

807
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 3: for that vaunted USC offense. Caleb Williams, you will note

808
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 3: last season, granted freshman, still trying to figure things out.

809
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,439
Speaker 3: There were games last year where it was like, yep,

810
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams has a clunker in him.

811
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: He's really good.

812
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 3: He's really good, but he he is not above a

813
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 3: sixteen for thirty six showing now he had big play late.

814
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 3: But I think if you're looking ahead, Utah can make

815
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 3: him play this kind of game. Wazoo more than my

816
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,720
Speaker 3: earlier point. Wazoo might be able to make him play

817
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 3: this type of game. Even Notre Dame by the end

818
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 3: of the season might be able to make him play

819
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 3: that style of game where he can't fire on all cylinders.

820
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 3: And USC needs to dig deep in order to win

821
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,479
Speaker 3: this one. So I want to credit USC for getting

822
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 3: a tough win on the road. I also want to

823
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 3: credit Oregon State for doing whatever it did to hold

824
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 3: down a really good offense. I think we learned a

825
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 3: lot about both teams in this game. USC wins, Oregon

826
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 3: State covers and a tough place to play blah blah blah.

827
00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 3: But I think, especially in this early juncture of like

828
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 3: late September, for us as we look ahead, these are

829
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 3: the types of games that we can harken back to.

830
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,479
Speaker 3: And Sarah, we learned a little something about both teams

831
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 3: in this one.

832
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's true. If I had told you

833
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: a team won a game close not being able to

834
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: get it together on offense, but rode a bunch of

835
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: turnovers and key moments, and even though the quarterback was

836
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,240
Speaker 1: pretty down. They got a couple of runs here and there,

837
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 1: and situationally they pulled it out. You'd be like, oh,

838
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:34,280
Speaker 1: good for Iowa, right, good for Iowa. That's where USC

839
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: was last night or Dallas. Oh no, don't say the

840
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 1: I word. That was a positively fairnsyan win from USC. Sorry,

841
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: that's exactly what it was. And when you're clunkers, when

842
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: you're clunkers, USC's turnover margin is absurd, and sometimes you

843
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: can say, well, it's fool's gold. Right, this isn't going

844
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: to continue the universe evens out fumbles and tipped balls

845
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 1: and interceptions. USC players are in the right place on defense,

846
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: the right place at the right time to pick off

847
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: these poorly thrown chance Nolan balls, right, poor decisions, poorly thrown,

848
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: right place, right time. You know, I'm a big believer

849
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: in the opportunity truck, and USC has done a good

850
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 1: job on defense drafting off the opportunity truck. That is

851
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: an important thing to do. In year one, once again,

852
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 1: they won their clunker. But when Travis Dye without his gloves,

853
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: fumbles the ball on his own one and Oregon State

854
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: looks like their recover but they don't. That's a bit

855
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: of luck fumble recoveries. That ball's gonna bounce wherever it's

856
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: going to bounce. There's nothing skilled about recovering fumbles, right,

857
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: So I am of the mind that USC is gonna

858
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: win a ton of games because I don't see a

859
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: lot of teams that can beat USC on this schedule,

860
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: maybe beyond Utah and whatever it is that UCLA decides

861
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: to look like week to week. But man, was that

862
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: game for the taking for the Beaves. The defense looked great.

863
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: You were down on the USC offensive line ahead of

864
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: the season, and we heard from a bunch of Trojan fans,

865
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: put up b off right, say that you're the third

866
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: best graded p ff what not parallel play by play data.

867
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: USC's offensive line got overwhelmed, like Caleb Jackson cleel of Jackson.

868
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams was the best offensive lineman for USC yesterday

869
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: in the amount of times he had to escape pressure

870
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: and being hit and rolling off of contact, and so again,

871
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: good for USC. You know, Jordan Addison came up big

872
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: in a couple of moments with key catches and down spots.

873
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: But there is an element of fools gold to this

874
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: year's iteration of USC. But they won their clunker, and

875
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna fully criticize them because it's a

876
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: tough place to win with an improved Beaf team on

877
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: the other side, desperate to give that game away, desperate

878
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: to give that game away. All right, you mentioned Iowa.

879
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: Let's shift over to the Big ten. We'll get to

880
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: Iowa in a moment.

881
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 3: Michigan thirty four, Maryland twenty seven. Yeah, first off, monster

882
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 3: game for Blake Krum. Just an absolute monster game. I'm

883
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 3: sure he is on your dude list. I won't steal

884
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 3: the thunder and talk. No, he is too too much

885
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 3: about it. Two hundred and forty three yards on thirty

886
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 3: carries and two touchdowns. Maryland had no answer, not just

887
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 3: for him, but for the Michigan run blocking scheme, whatever

888
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 3: they were doing. The holes were there, and Blake Korum

889
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 3: had the patients, had the vision, obviously obviously had the

890
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 3: speed and strength to get through. So monster game for him.

891
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 3: A really good job by the Michigan team just opening

892
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 3: up those holes. But it is a much better game

893
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 3: than expected.

894
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, much better.

895
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 3: Points spread was seventeen here and for a good chunk

896
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 3: of this game, it felt like Maryland.

897
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: It was there. It was a Stone's throwaway.

898
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 3: If they could just make a few more plays with

899
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 3: about nine minutes left, this was a five point game here.

900
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 3: But Maryland, again, we talked about this in the preseason.

901
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 3: A lot Maryland is making strides. Maryland feels the next

902
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 3: step in its evolution is to knock off one of

903
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 3: the top four in the Big ten East. That's just

904
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,359
Speaker 3: where they're at this.

905
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 1: The who are the big four in the Big Tennis too,

906
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State. All right, I

907
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: hear a big three after yesterday. Continue fair enough and

908
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 1: we'll get to Michigan State. Okay, but that is the

909
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: stated goal, stated goal for this Maryland squad. Two turnovers

910
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 1: in particular killed him. They had one on the opening kickoff,

911
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,760
Speaker 1: Michigan cash that in almost immediately for a quick touchdown,

912
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: and then they had another one down the stretch. At

913
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: about six minutes left, Maryland's driving Ti Leah throws up

914
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: a pick down the right sideline. M hmm.

915
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 3: Maryland was in this game. They were in this game,

916
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 3: oh totally. This one looked like progress to me. So

917
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 3: even if you know, if you're a Maryland fan, you're

918
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 3: disappointed you didn't win. But the fact that they went

919
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:55,720
Speaker 3: to Michigan and were within seven of the Wolverines within

920
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 3: five late. That's big time progress. So they can build

921
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 3: from them that. The Michigan State game probably there for

922
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 3: the taking after what we've seen so far from Sparti.

923
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 3: But on the Maryland side, you were close. This is

924
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:12,399
Speaker 3: definite progress. On the Michigan side, you know, the run

925
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 3: blockings there, the offensive line is good. They can clearly

926
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 3: run the football. The JJ McCarthy things interesting though, here's

927
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 3: a little bit. It's a little bit interesting. I have

928
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 3: a continue there's a little bit of Techmo super Bowl

929
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 3: in his style of play, where he's just a lot

930
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 3: of running backwards, waiting for guys to get open. Maybe

931
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 3: make a dash for it, make a break for it.

932
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 3: That'll work against Maryland. I don't know if it works

933
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 3: next week against Iowa. It's Penn State, certainly not against

934
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 3: Ohio State. Like, they've got to work that part of

935
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 3: his game out. They've got to get Donavan Smith back

936
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 3: healthy as well, but they got to work that part

937
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 3: of his game out so that he is not putting

938
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 3: them in third and long situations, second in long situations

939
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 3: by trying too hard to make a play yeah.

940
00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 2: No.

941
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: There are certain ways in which a game can unfold

942
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: where you're like, oh, man, this team might just have

943
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 1: it today. They might just upset this team. Everything's clicking,

944
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: And sometimes there are games where teams score twenty one

945
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,760
Speaker 1: to twenty eight points on pick sixes and freak cover busts,

946
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: and you're like, well, they're not really doing anything consistently. Well,

947
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 1: they're getting these like freak plays. And the way that

948
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: game unfolded to me was Michigan was like two and

949
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: a half plays away from losing this game. They get

950
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: the crazy opening kickoff, bounce off the player, and then

951
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 1: they have what the opening He throws it to one

952
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: of the tight ends was a schoonmaker who thought the

953
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: school market the opening. Yeah, that opening touchdown was great,

954
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,720
Speaker 1: and then Marylyn intercepts the ball, but the guy's foot

955
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 1: is out of bounds right at the goal line. Later

956
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: on in the game, they're just there are certain things

957
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 1: that like you're getting two hundred and forty how many

958
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 1: yards from Blake horm and barely beating Maryland at home,

959
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: That to me is worrisome. That to me is worrisome that,

960
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: like JJ McCarthy, is it necessarily stepping into the pocket

961
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: and launching the ball successfully downfield consistently that he has

962
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: to scramble and wait and scratch like work against. To

963
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: your point, that'll work against Maryland. Don't know how many

964
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: of the better teams in the Big Ten that's working against.

965
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: If that sort of improvisation is what's needed at times

966
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: to barely beat Maryland, and so when you're clunkers as always.

967
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: But I think we're right to hold Michigan, as a

968
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: reigning champion and playoff team, to a high standard of

969
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: if you're going to this new guy and you're going

970
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: to play precisely nobody in September, Colorado, State, Hawaii, u con,

971
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: you better be able. You better be ready to dominate

972
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 1: a team like Maryland at home if we are going

973
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: to believe in you. And look, that's worrisome.

974
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy's playmaking is also undeniable. We saw it in

975
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 3: this game. He is able to make total legs. But

976
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 3: the thing where he's running backwards and just not getting

977
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 3: rid of the football trying to make a play. They're

978
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 3: going to have to weed that stuff out because against

979
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 3: the better teams, it's just not going to work. It's

980
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 3: going to put him behind the chains, and that is

981
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 3: how Iowa wins games. I should point out they win

982
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 3: games with field position, with dumb turnovers, and with doing

983
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 3: just enough to score three points every so off and

984
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 3: off of bad play.

985
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: That is how teams in the Big Ten win, not

986
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: just Iowa, but still probably better than one hundred and

987
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: fourteen quarterbacks.

988
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and he's young, right he Yeah, he will

989
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 3: have an opportunity to mature and get better as the

990
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 3: season progresses.

991
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: And this was his first Big Ten game as a starter. Yeah, yeah,

992
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: like it. We should cut him some slack at the

993
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: same time that he was not prepared with Hawaii, Colorado State,

994
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: Yukon to sort of like, oh, they're they're falling into

995
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: this type of quarter's look, Oh they're blitzing from this angle.

996
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:52,439
Speaker 1: Oh they're taking away my hot read here. But let's

997
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: let's hope for improvement. Let's hope for improvement.

998
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 3: By the way, it's all around on that offense, I

999
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 3: said Donovan Smith. I meant Donovan Edwards Edwards, Yes, Donovan Edwards,

1000
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,439
Speaker 3: who's been out out CJ. Stokes I believe got one.

1001
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 3: Carryon fumbled it in this game as potentially the compliment

1002
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 3: to Blake Korum. They kind of went away for that

1003
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 3: plan pretty quick.

1004
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right.

1005
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 3: Elsewhere in the Big Ten, let's rattle through some conferences here, please,

1006
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 3: Ohio State by thirty one. Oh Man just drilled Wisconsin

1007
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 3: and not even that close, not even that close. They

1008
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 3: were without JSN Jackson Smith and Jigba both starting quarterback

1009
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 3: cornerbacks excuse me, were out, but it still was a

1010
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 3: hot knife through butter fifty two to twenty one. We

1011
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 3: had Minnesota guess who just got footed just destroyed Michigan

1012
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 3: State thirty four to seven. This one was never close either.

1013
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 3: Tanner Morgan had as many touchdowns three as incompletions two

1014
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 3: forty on the ground for the Gophers. Meanwhile, Michigan State

1015
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 3: just looked bad on offense, looked bad. Minnesota, for their part,

1016
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 3: probably a very very strong case in light of four

1017
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 3: as the best team in the Big Ten West, which

1018
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 3: we've always acknowledged is a possibility. We just needed to

1019
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 3: see it and certainly needed to see the competition we

1020
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 3: may be at that juncture. You and I spoke this

1021
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 3: morning on slack. You're ready for Noah Kim.

1022
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 1: I mean ready for something new with Michigan State. Yeah,

1023
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 1: I mean he he was one I think he threw

1024
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: the garbage time touchdown for the Spartans late. I'm going

1025
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: to speak for myself. I'm not gonna say we, but

1026
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: I perennially I think underrate Minnesota and what their potential is.

1027
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 1: I have no idea what Michigan State is or isn't.

1028
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: At this point, I kind of have a good idea

1029
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: of what they're not. But yeah, year in and year out.

1030
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: Maybe it's because of the bad Tanner Morgan, maybe it's

1031
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: because of the COVID season, Maybe it's because of some

1032
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: sort of down offensive stretches, and for whatever reason, PJ.

1033
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: Fleck and Kirkshiraka are just the duo of duo. Do

1034
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: I need to put it back on the board Kirk Shurock, Kirk,

1035
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 1: thank you, that was quick. Thank you, good job. No,

1036
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: long term, I have no idea or long term this season,

1037
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: I have no idea what to make of Michigan State

1038
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 1: beyond a lot of worry, A lot of worry because

1039
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: between what they showed last week and what they showed

1040
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: this week, they're an inspiration to teams. Teams look at

1041
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: the Spartans across the field. They look at that green,

1042
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: and the green is a green light. They are what's

1043
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 1: the word I'm looking for? They're a muse tie to

1044
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 1: offenses and defenses. You can't spell mews without MSU tie.

1045
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:33,760
Speaker 1: Are you saying what are relieve it is? It's rough.

1046
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 1: Ten of twelve was what Minnesota was on third downs

1047
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: ten of twelve. This makes me worry that Washington's not

1048
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: that good because they allowed so many points for Michigan State.

1049
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: I know that was also closer than it actually was.

1050
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 2: But.

1051
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I I was into Michigan State more than I

1052
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: probably should have been heading into the season, even though

1053
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 1: I last year I thought was a little bit of

1054
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: fools gold with the Indiana and Brass games and not

1055
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: playing Kenny Pickett in the bowl game. But damn, I

1056
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: don't know where you go like in late September and

1057
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: this is what you're looking like. I don't know how

1058
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: much you can fix in season. We'll see.

1059
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a minute since I could think of

1060
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 3: a number of like Power five teams that from a

1061
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 3: betting standpoint, we knew were fool's gold going into week five.

1062
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 3: Usually that stuff gets sorted out by Vegas by week three,

1063
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 3: but this is one that obviously Minnesota is a lot

1064
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 3: better Michigan State's got work to do. Penn State wins

1065
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 3: by nineteen over Central Michigan. Central Michigan hung around enough

1066
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,919
Speaker 3: to cover the twenty eight point spread, Penn State shut

1067
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:45,919
Speaker 3: him down after pretty much halftime. Cincinnati wins by twenty one,

1068
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 3: gives Indiana their first loss. They had a twenty eight

1069
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 3: point second quarter, never relinquished the lead, perdue very close,

1070
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 3: knocks off Florida Atlantic twenty eight.

1071
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 1: Twenty six.

1072
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 3: Northwestern goes down against Miami, Ohio. Illinois won earlier in

1073
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 3: the week thirty one nils over Chattanooga, and then that

1074
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 3: brings us to Iowa Rutgers, the vaunted batchup that everybody

1075
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 3: talked about couldn't get enough of twenty seven to ten.

1076
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 3: The good news is the overhit. The bad news is

1077
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 3: the Iowa offense again scored what thirteen points on their

1078
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 3: own to knockoff Rutgers.

1079
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: Here correct, yeah, defense, I'll score the offense brutal, brutal.

1080
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 3: Now we've got Iowa hosting Michigan next week, which I

1081
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 3: don't know what to make of that game for a

1082
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 3: number of different reasons that we will discuss when we

1083
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 3: do the recap, or excuse me, the preview show on Thursday.

1084
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:44,959
Speaker 1: But twenty seven to ten, Yeah, among those games. Ben

1085
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: Bryant might be full on good for Cincinnati. First year

1086
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: starter he and I think was Tyler Scott had a

1087
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: really nice connection. They can't really run the ball, which

1088
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 1: is a bummer without droeing Ford. But yeah, I think

1089
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 1: Indiana will be okay. But I think this is just

1090
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:03,720
Speaker 1: the Hoosier experience. Otherwise, in the Big Ten, Austin Burton

1091
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: got the start because Aidan O'Connell was out with I

1092
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: think it was a rib injury, which I've never had

1093
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: rib in I have torn cartilage, I haven't broken a rib.

1094
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: It sounds like a complete and utter human nightmare to

1095
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 1: exist with rib injuries.

1096
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 3: I broke three ribs and tried to play through it.

1097
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 3: Oh and I went three for four in that I

1098
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 3: had a very good baseball game, so not a full

1099
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 3: sport but yeah, correct, but I was in horrible pain,

1100
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 3: could not take a deep breath. It was definitely not

1101
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 3: the right decision at the time. I didn't know any better,

1102
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 3: but really really tough. I can't imagine what it's like

1103
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 3: to play football through a rib injury.

1104
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Austin Burton I think transferred in from UCLA.

1105
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,280
Speaker 1: Hope it works out for Purdue and aid O'Connell heals

1106
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: up quickly because he and Charlie Jones are exceedingly fun

1107
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: to watch. But yeah, a close win against FAU but

1108
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 1: Niicosy Perry true freshman Mayu will be there another eleven years. No,

1109
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: nice Onedueo actually ran the ball well, which has not

1110
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 1: necessarily been a strength of the Boilers. Did so in

1111
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 1: West Lafayette. Otherwise, I didn't watch any of the Penn

1112
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: State games, so I'll take your word for it. It

1113
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 1: looked like Parker Washington made plays, which is nice, but yeah,

1114
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 1: I look like Penn State kind of jumped out to

1115
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: it and then just sort of coasted. I watched a

1116
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: good chunk of the Wisconsin Ohio State game. Those receivers

1117
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: are great, so they're so good, The running backs are

1118
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: so good. CJ. Shrouds seems so comfortable. And Wisconsin is

1119
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: just another team. Sorry. They were up twenty one to

1120
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: seven in the Big Ten championship game in twenty nineteen

1121
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 1: and since then nothing nothing so and Illinois, let's mention

1122
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: Illinois taking care of business against Chatty Nuge's Chase Brown

1123
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: quietly one of the better running backs in the country.

1124
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: Probably he cb all right.

1125
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 3: Big twelve Baylor thirty one, Iowa State twenty four. Bears

1126
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 3: finally got something out of their offense. Dan, Finally Big

1127
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 3: I got something out of their offense. It was I

1128
00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 3: think easily the best game this season for Blake Shapin,

1129
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 3: who looked very confident running things. Notably, this was not

1130
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 3: the pickleball offense that we have used about here really

1131
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 3: for either team. Neither team was playing pickleball here, but

1132
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 3: a fair amount of chunk plays made this I thought

1133
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 3: a really entertaining watch. I watched a good portion of

1134
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 3: this game. Baylor's defense remains solid. That is the bedrock

1135
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 3: for this team. It probably always will be that way.

1136
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 1: Under Dave Randa.

1137
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 3: They seemed to generate a fair amount of pressure on

1138
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 3: a Hunter Deckers, They forced two picks, They were really

1139
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 3: tough against the run. Iowa State average something like two

1140
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 3: and a half per carry. So the combination of all

1141
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 3: of those factors together, just playing really really sound football

1142
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 3: on the road, the defense stepping.

1143
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: Up when they had to.

1144
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 3: I thought, all things considered, this was a pretty good

1145
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 3: showing for both teams. But Baylor just had its act

1146
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 3: together much much more and looked like a more complete

1147
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 3: product at this point.

1148
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: In the season. Yeah. I liked watching Blake shape and

1149
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 1: he was good in play action. He found open dudes,

1150
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,919
Speaker 1: some like no brainer throws he made right, and that's

1151
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: not always the case with everybody. You look at like

1152
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 1: the All twenty two angle, Like this guy was running

1153
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: wide open. It's supposed to be his second read. Blake

1154
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 1: Shapin was impressive. He seemed cool, calm, and collected against

1155
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: a good Iowa State defense. It should be noted. Yeah,

1156
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: they're cool to see. You had always mentioned with Baylor,

1157
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: like who's that next guy, Who's the next Abram Smith,

1158
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: Who's the next whoever? And Gavin Holmes was that guy yesterday.

1159
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: Let's hope he is one of many if you're a

1160
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 1: Baylor fan. His name sort of makes him sound like

1161
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: a problematic influencer. Not my problem, not my problem. Good

1162
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: for Baylor get the job done in a close game

1163
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: against a tough team as they try to not rebuild

1164
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 1: but reload from a pretty impressive twenty twenty one. Yeah.

1165
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: And Richard Reese too, Yeah, continues to be strong. Continue.

1166
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, just gave you know, not like a monster statistical performance,

1167
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 3: but as a freshman to get in there and get

1168
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 3: some yards on the ground. He did a good job,

1169
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 3: So nice one for Baylor on the road. We had

1170
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 3: Kansas moving to four and oh we had TCU winning

1171
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 3: the skillet over SMU, and we had West Virginia winning

1172
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 3: their game very sloppy. Oh my god, that game was

1173
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,959
Speaker 3: so sloppy. I watched every second of it. My eyes

1174
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 3: were ready to bleed. Thirty three to ten over Virginia

1175
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 3: Tech thoughts on these games.

1176
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: Dan very cool to see Max Duggan, who did not

1177
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: win the starting job this year. Chandler Morris did, but

1178
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: he's been out look very sharp and decisive. Spread the

1179
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,479
Speaker 1: ball around. TCU ran the hell out of the ball

1180
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: against SMU. A lot of emotion in this one for

1181
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: obvious reasons, with sunny decks leaving SMU to go essentially

1182
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: a few miles away for a rival to take over

1183
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: that program. And if TCU, especially on defense, can once

1184
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 1: again get their act together, it's not gonna happen this year.

1185
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: But we talked about this in the Big Twelve. Who

1186
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: steps into the void of Oklahoma as like the power

1187
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 1: in that conference, and we agree that TCU is one

1188
01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: of the clear options at the top at their best,

1189
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: and I think they can be pretty interesting, So very

1190
01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 1: cool to see them immediately turn things around in the

1191
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: skillet match up up elsewhere in the Big Twelve. You

1192
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: know who CJ. Donaldson is. CJ. Donaldson would be an

1193
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: absolute pleasure to root for if he were on your team.

1194
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: Well doesn't he? Like he was, like, I am so

1195
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 1: happy and he's a freshman and I know this is

1196
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: a you know, a Virginia Tech team that's somewhat down,

1197
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 1: but like West Virginia taking care of business comfortably in

1198
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 1: that game was very cool to see because I just

1199
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:26,120
Speaker 1: like watching CJ. Donaldson excuse me? And then Kansas like,

1200
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to have a ranked conversation at a

1201
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 1: certain point, We're gonna have to have a Jalen Daniels

1202
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: And where does he rank in the Big twelve quarterback hierarchy?

1203
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: Where does he rank in the terms of just like

1204
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 1: fun players to watch, not must see TV quite yet

1205
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 1: because it's still Duke. But these weren't games Kansas was

1206
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 1: winning traditionally these past two years. I mean, and he's

1207
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: bombing at downfield.

1208
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 3: He's bombing at downfield over four hundred total yards, five

1209
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 3: total touchdowns, for Jalen Daniels. Kansas was also very good

1210
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 3: in the red zone. I'm sure it was against Duke,

1211
01:01:58,040 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 3: but Duke's a three and one team, and Duke's been

1212
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 3: on defense. It's been okay on defense. Right, It's not Alabama,

1213
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 3: it's not Georgia, but Duke's been okay. And again, these

1214
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 3: are not the games that Kansas would typically win. They're

1215
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 3: good in the red zone. They got three touchdowns on

1216
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 3: four trips into the red zone. The offensive line has

1217
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 3: played well all season. Again granted, but.

1218
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 1: This is also this we talk about Michigan and holding

1219
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 1: them to a certain standard that they're setting for themselves.

1220
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 1: The standard that Kansas has set for themselves this past

1221
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 1: few years doesn't exist. No, They're exceeding whatever tiny, tiny

1222
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 1: bar they set by leaps and bounds. It's it's one

1223
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 1: of the actual joys of college football fandom, not involving

1224
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 1: your own team, is to see dramatic improvement. And that's

1225
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 1: it's an incredible story.

1226
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 3: They gave up their first sack of the year yesterday.

1227
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 3: Cool first sack of the year, So credit to Kansas.

1228
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 3: Lanslo I pulled move into four and oh, let's rattle

1229
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 3: off some other matchups here in the SEC. Auburn wins

1230
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 3: in overtime over Miszoo. We'll come back to this one

1231
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 3: in a second. Georgia thirty nine, kent State twenty two.

1232
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 3: Kent State doing a little bit more work than I expected.

1233
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 3: Brock Bowers also leading Georgia in rushing yards two carries,

1234
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 3: two touchdowns seventy seven yards, one of which went for

1235
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 3: seventy five, but three turnovers for Georgia that they're gonna want.

1236
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: To clean up.

1237
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 3: Bama wins by fifty two over Vandy. They cover the spread.

1238
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 3: Kentucky thirty one. NIU twenty three tied it half, but

1239
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 3: Kentucky pulled away in the third and fourth quarters. Ole

1240
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 3: miss thirty five Tulsa twenty seven. This game wasn't really

1241
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 3: in doubt, even though it doesn't look close. We had

1242
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 3: Mississippi State winning big over Bowling Green. LSU wins thirty

1243
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 3: eight zip over New Mexico and South Carolina by thirty

1244
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 3: six over Charlotte.

1245
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 1: Dan didn't watch South Carolina, Charlotte, didn't watch LSU. New Mexico.

1246
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: Only watched a bit of Mississippi State Bowling Green because

1247
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 1: that was pretty out of hand early on. Watched more

1248
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 1: than I would have liked to of Auburn Miszoo. And

1249
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 1: that's to say I didn't watch much of it, but

1250
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 1: that's already too much of this matchup. Obviously, watched a

1251
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 1: good deal of Florida Tennessee, which we talked about, watch

1252
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 1: a good deal of A and m Arkansas, which I

1253
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 1: know you want to talk about. Didn't watch any of

1254
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 1: Bama Vandy as soon as I saw that getting out

1255
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 1: of Control, saw the highlights of Georgia Kent State, but

1256
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 1: didn't watch a lot of that. Of these games, that's

1257
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 1: A and m Arkansas always weird, never fails to be weird.

1258
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 3: I was saving it. I was saving the score. Okay,

1259
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 3: for this moment we're gonna get. We're gonna get people

1260
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 3: who write and say.

1261
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 1: You didn't talk about this game until an hour. I apologize. Yeah,

1262
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 1: there's a lot going on, a lot of going, lot

1263
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 1: going on.

1264
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 3: Sorry, a lot going on, but we do need to

1265
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 3: take a few minutes and talk about Texas, A and

1266
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 3: M in Arkansas. Here is why I did not include

1267
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 3: it in that first chunk. This game went exactly the

1268
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 3: way you and I thought.

1269
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 1: This game went.

1270
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:53,479
Speaker 3: Exactly the way Vegas thought. The points spread was two

1271
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 3: in favor of Texas A and M. It was exactly

1272
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 3: according to the script. So in terms of things that

1273
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 3: could have happened College Football Week four that would upset

1274
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 3: the balance of the force, that would change the storylines

1275
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,439
Speaker 3: and the narratives and really get people talking, I don't

1276
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 3: know if this game so much falls into that category.

1277
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 3: This game was kind of exactly as expected on many fronts.

1278
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 3: The Texas A and M offense leads a lot to

1279
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,080
Speaker 3: be desired, right, a lot to be desired. Devin a Chain,

1280
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 3: thank you for playing. Oh my god, thank you for playing.

1281
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 3: He's very good, very very good.

1282
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 1: It was actually kind of a squad on your back Saturday,

1283
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 1: right a little bit. A lot of a lot of

1284
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 1: teams were like, we're gonna ride that dude for better

1285
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 1: or worse and see what happens. And that's what Texas

1286
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 1: A and M did with Devin a Chain smartly. That's

1287
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 1: what they did smartly.

1288
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 3: What happened in this game is Arkansas got off to

1289
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 3: a quick lead, quick fourteen to nothing lead, and then

1290
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 3: A and M sat on them. AM did not let

1291
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 3: much happen beyond that late touchdown, But in between, A

1292
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 3: and M did what it needed to do. Got those

1293
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 3: twenty three points. I thought, in particular, they were able

1294
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 3: to either confuse or pressure kJ Jefferson into making inaccurate throws.

1295
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 3: I saw a lot of inaccurate throws from him in

1296
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 3: a way that I'm not used to seeing. Yeah, and

1297
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 3: I thought just that subtlety with however they were doing

1298
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 3: it changed the outcome of this game. kJ did not

1299
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 3: look as comfortable as I'm used to seeing him look,

1300
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 3: and I thought that played a pretty outside impact honestly

1301
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 3: on this one. It's not the kind of thing that's

1302
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 3: necessarily going to show up in the stat liner or

1303
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 3: the box score, even a lot of a game recaps,

1304
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 3: but it just he didn't feel as comfortable as dynamic

1305
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 3: in this game, probably because A and M has a

1306
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 3: good defense, but that just tweak whatever they did, that

1307
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 3: was how they won this one.

1308
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:45,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. A and M looked a lot better up front

1309
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 1: later on in the game, making more plays, especially with

1310
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 1: the younger guys. Wouldn't hate if every game broadcast featured

1311
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 1: a slightly deflated looking John Day somewhere in the with

1312
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 1: the pigs hat on with the Pigs had. I mean,

1313
01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 1: he's a joy to look at. Visually, he's like a

1314
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 1: cartoon character taking in Arkansas games. But I uh, I

1315
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 1: think we can't underestimate the loss of a magnificent connection

1316
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 1: like what kJ Jefferson had with Trailon Brooks last year.

1317
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 1: That a thing like that where you're like, who's going

1318
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 1: to be this year's trailing burd Like that almost feels

1319
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 1: disingenuous with how strong the two of them were together

1320
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 1: last year. And I know that, you know, bring in

1321
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 1: transfers and who's you know, the next guy up, but

1322
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 1: not a lot of teams, not a lot of programs

1323
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 1: just have that next guy up who steps in without

1324
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:36,400
Speaker 1: missing a beat. So just like you predicted in the preview,

1325
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 1: you were like, watch out for kJ Jefferson fumbling near

1326
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 1: the end zone and texts A and M handing it

1327
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 1: off to a dude on the recovery and having sprint

1328
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 1: down the sideline and that be responsible for a third

1329
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 1: of A and M points and a winning effort. It's

1330
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 1: a freak way to win the game. But that's what

1331
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 1: this game is every year. Every year, It's a game

1332
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 1: that comes down to a freak way to win. And

1333
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 1: so yeah, Devin Ah chain bum to see Anya Smith.

1334
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 1: Hopefully his injury is not as bad as it appeared

1335
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 1: at the time of recording. But it does not look

1336
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:08,200
Speaker 1: good for Anyah Smith. God, I it's again coming down

1337
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 1: to I have no investment either way in A and

1338
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 1: M football, But if you're an A and M fan,

1339
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 1: watching Max Johnson drop back slowly every down must be

1340
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:20,839
Speaker 1: heartbreaking in its own way. He had a long scramble

1341
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 1: for a first down that reminded me of like what

1342
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 1: a quarterback who was cajoled out of retirement would look

1343
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 1: like when he's like, I'm acown brother sprinting down the

1344
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 1: sideline at forty one. I mean he looks terrible jets.

1345
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 1: He looks like Brad Johnson, his father. Correct, Yes, it's

1346
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 1: just yeah, I remember I have like visuals of my dad,

1347
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 1: Like the last time I saw my dad sprint as

1348
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:45,080
Speaker 1: an adult because he doesn't do that, it has it

1349
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 1: for a long time, Like that's kind of what Max

1350
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 1: Johnson is, like a twenty year old looks like running.

1351
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be Ah, It's gonna be a trying

1352
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 1: season for Texas A and M. But once again they

1353
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 1: want to clunker in a very emotional spot that they

1354
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 1: don't always win. So good for ann as they moved

1355
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 1: forward and defense got healthier and just guys back from

1356
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 1: suspension and stuff. So playmakers on defense and Devin a

1357
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 1: Chain is not the worst combination heading against some tough teams.

1358
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 3: Just very quickly, Miszoo fumbled the ball out of the

1359
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 3: end zone in overtime.

1360
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 1: Oh, Vaniel Pete, Yeah, yeah, fumbled the ball out of

1361
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 1: the end zone. That's how they lost. Missed, missed a

1362
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 1: kick to win it at the end, a very makeable

1363
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 1: kick and we're running into the end zone to win

1364
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 1: that game. That game featured many punts and we were

1365
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 1: even talking like should we prepare a video just in

1366
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 1: case Brian Harston has lost goal after losing the Missoo

1367
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 1: game in this fashion, and then they win the game,

1368
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 1: and now Auburn money is sitting around saying to themselves

1369
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 1: onto next.

1370
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 3: Week, next week, push it back, yeah, this week, all right?

1371
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 3: Acc Notre Dame wins forty five to thirty two over

1372
01:09:54,560 --> 01:10:00,120
Speaker 3: North Carolina. Sarahcuse eked one out over Virginia twenty two

1373
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 3: to twenty. We had UCF knocking off Georgia Tech twenty

1374
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 3: seven to ten. We had Pitt forty five twenty four

1375
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 3: over Rhode Island. Notably, Pitt's kicker recovered one of those

1376
01:10:12,720 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 3: cool on site kicks that saw that that you and

1377
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 3: I talked about in the Fantasy Things draft where the kicker,

1378
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 3: just like Dlink kicks, is straight and or covers his

1379
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 3: own thing, which was kind of neat.

1380
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 1: But did you see who Rhode Island's quarterback is? Did

1381
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 1: you happen to catch this? It's like the starting quarterback

1382
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 1: for the still in College All Stars. Cassim Hill, he

1383
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:34,639
Speaker 1: of Maryland and Tennessee Fame. Still still still go there,

1384
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 1: still still still there at Rhode Island.

1385
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 3: We had we when we finished this out quick. We

1386
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:41,519
Speaker 3: had yeah, Wouisville winning big. We had Florida State beating

1387
01:10:41,560 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 3: Boston College and NC State big over Yukon Dan.

1388
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 1: Yes, glad to see Jordan Travis's health was in order

1389
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 1: enough to look very strong against Boston College, who looks

1390
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 1: to be very bad, very bad. Boston College does not

1391
01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 1: look competitive. They didn't score in the first half. Florida

1392
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 1: State controlled this one from whistle to whistle. Georgia Tech

1393
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 1: speaking of very bad.

1394
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, mumbles penalties, Yeah not good.

1395
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:12,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Louisville looking strong especially, I mean it was a

1396
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:14,599
Speaker 1: balance game. Will like Cunningham it's a squad on your

1397
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 1: back Saturday. South Ford's not that good. Well, you mentioned

1398
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 1: pitt NC State comfortably Syracuse one of your picks, which

1399
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,879
Speaker 1: still a strong pick. I don't hate the pick. Defense

1400
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 1: will win them more games. Offensive line I don't love

1401
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 1: right now for Syracuse winning games without a great offensive line.

1402
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 3: That's okay, May need to back off the Garrett Shredder nickname. Okay,

1403
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 3: he needed to add more in your eyes.

1404
01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1405
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 3: Qus needed five field goals in this game, and they

1406
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 3: turned the ball over four times, a lot of drops.

1407
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:54,600
Speaker 3: It was very sloppy, extremely sloppy game. Twenty four total penalties.

1408
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 3: There were two turnovers for UVA. There were about eighty

1409
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 3: five replay reviews in this game, m h.

1410
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:01,400
Speaker 1: Which was maddening.

1411
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 3: But the unique I think takeaway from this game is

1412
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 3: that regardless of which side of the fence you're on,

1413
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 3: whether it's QS or UVA, you came away from this

1414
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 3: game feeling like you could have won by three scores. Yeah,

1415
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 3: didn't matter. Like both teams had a lot that they

1416
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 3: left on the bone there, which was really maddening. Let's

1417
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:26,799
Speaker 3: talk about Notre Dame UNC really quickly. Let's Geene Chizik

1418
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 3: got carved up by Drew Pine.

1419
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:31,439
Speaker 1: Is that bad? I feel like that's bad. That's bad.

1420
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:32,639
Speaker 1: That is that is bad.

1421
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:36,600
Speaker 3: Notre Dame's offense racked up forty five points, close to

1422
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,680
Speaker 3: six hundred yards total offense. They had a ton of confidence.

1423
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 3: You could see it going through this one here. It

1424
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:46,640
Speaker 3: was a unit that really needed it. So from that standpoint,

1425
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:48,759
Speaker 3: this is good. On the Notre Dame side, the line

1426
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 3: continued to improve. They dominated North Carolina. They just they

1427
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 3: dominated him. They opened up the ground game Audric Estime,

1428
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 3: Chris Tyree, Logan Diggs all told close to three hundred

1429
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 3: yards on the round and Drew Pine or a clean game,

1430
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 3: clean game, three touchdowns, close to three hundred yards through

1431
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 3: the air. So Notre Dame did anything it wanted on

1432
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:11,719
Speaker 3: offense here. This is what sucks so for North Carolina.

1433
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 3: A part that sucks for North Carolina is that their

1434
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 3: offense is actually quite good, at least through the air.

1435
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 3: They're quite good. Part of it quite good. Yeah, So

1436
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 3: we're talking about a half half team basically very good.

1437
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 3: It's a quarter team. Yeah, yeah, it's a quarter team.

1438
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 3: It's going to be a quarter team thing all year

1439
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 3: where the passing attack is constantly trying to keep up

1440
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:35,679
Speaker 3: with a non existent rushing attack and a really bad defense.

1441
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 3: So they're gonna have Drake May is going to put

1442
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 3: up wonderful numbers this season that are going to be unfortunately,

1443
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 3: very hollow because they can't stop anyone and they can't

1444
01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 3: run the ball to save their life.

1445
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to say what I'm going to say

1446
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 1: right now what I think people will say in a

1447
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 1: year and a half to two years, and that's that

1448
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 1: the mac Brown North Carolina program is a failed state.

1449
01:13:56,600 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 1: Sorry it is. And if you or head coach who

1450
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 1: recruits well, brings in two disappointing defensive coordinators in four

1451
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 1: years and is now in his second plus year of

1452
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:12,639
Speaker 1: losing the trenches on both sides and not being able

1453
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:16,599
Speaker 1: to defend teams at all with top fifteen, top twenty

1454
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:21,599
Speaker 1: type recruiting classes in a down acc maybe mac Brown

1455
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:26,639
Speaker 1: is just there to golf, Like maybe he was hired

1456
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 1: because administrators and boosters Like I'm not saying mac Brown

1457
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 1: took the job to golf. I'm saying North Carolina hired

1458
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:36,000
Speaker 1: him because they like mac Brown. And then mac Brown

1459
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 1: hires assistance because he liked them, not because they're gonna

1460
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 1: win a bunch of games, and so Drake may is

1461
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 1: really good. The offensive skill talent that's been there has

1462
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:52,880
Speaker 1: been really good. But again, if we're in year four, sorry,

1463
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 1: we can the golf. Oh no, we can smash cut

1464
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 1: forward to twenty twenty four and we're like, well, I

1465
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 1: guess it didn't work out for Mac Brown and North Carolina.

1466
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 1: Or we can just have that conversation now. Yeah, because

1467
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 1: if Drew Pine these are your words. If Drew Pine

1468
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: is carving you up in year four, you have failed.

1469
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 1: And I Drew Pine is a backup quarterback. I'd have

1470
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 1: nothing against Drew Pine. I hope he continues to improve.

1471
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 1: He improved in the second half against Cal. He looked strong.

1472
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just gonna walk in on Michael Mayor.

1473
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you. I mean, Jean Chisuck had one job.

1474
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 1: Take away Michael Mayor, get after the quarterback a little

1475
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 1: bit and confuse a shorter quarterback who has trouble going

1476
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:35,560
Speaker 1: through progressions at home. Right, this game was in Chapel Hill. Yeah,

1477
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 1: couldn't do it. Four years in three top fifteen ish

1478
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:43,519
Speaker 1: recruiting classes, two disappointing defensive coordinators. Sorry, again, we can

1479
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 1: sim ahead to twenty twenty four to have this conversation.

1480
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 1: We can just have his conversation now and move forward.

1481
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 3: Sorry, all right, to go over to the PAC twelve.

1482
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,759
Speaker 3: Just four other games here to mention very quickly. Utah

1483
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 3: wins and covers thank you over Arizona State thirty four

1484
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:01,639
Speaker 3: to thirteen. Washington would forty to twenty two over Stanford.

1485
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 3: UCLA wins by twenty eight over Colorado, and Cal Cal

1486
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 3: scored forty nine dude on area.

1487
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 1: Not former Oregon commit at running back two hundred and

1488
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 1: seventy four yards for Cal. What do is? They poured

1489
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 1: it on the Arizona defense. Yeah, sort of an upright

1490
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 1: running style. I know you like specific details like that.

1491
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:25,240
Speaker 1: I do, but fast gets after it and Cal made

1492
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 1: the adjustment. After North Dakota State, by the way, carved

1493
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 1: up Arizona in a losing effort last week, Cal was like,

1494
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 1: screw it, we're down twenty one seven. Just give the

1495
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:34,439
Speaker 1: ball to Jada not and see what happens. And then

1496
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 1: they rattled off all of the points sone one they win. Yeah, yes, okay.

1497
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 1: And finally James Madison the Maddies baby, Yeah, buddy, saving

1498
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Speaker 1: the best for last. I know, They're not the Maddies,

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Speaker 1: but I'm going to call them that.

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Speaker 3: The three to zero app State led twenty eight to

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01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 3: three in this freaking game with six minutes left in

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01:16:56,520 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 3: the second quarter. The Maddies scored twenty nine unanswered and

1503
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:04,720
Speaker 3: grabbed a lead with about ten minutes left in the

1504
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 3: fourth quarter. They end up running out the clock. They

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01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:09,600
Speaker 3: win this damn game thirty two to twenty eight. What

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01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 3: a freaking showing here by James Madison, as you said,

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01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 3: as you rightly pointed out, they have never lost an

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01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 3: FBS game. They're just brand new to this level. To

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01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 3: go to app State to win this game, to be

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01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 3: down by twenty five points, say yeah early and come

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01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 3: back and win this game is a hell of a

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Speaker 3: freaking showing. Really awesome to see them in the Sun Belt,

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01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:34,720
Speaker 3: which is not an easy conference, and they will have

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Speaker 3: opportunities to lose.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they will at some point. But thirty to

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01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:45,639
Speaker 1: twenty eight, great win for James Madison. Gratulations Todd Sentaio, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 1: really good transfer from both Temple and Colorado State. Yeah,

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01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 1: very strong win. I mean to be down again, Like

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01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:52,599
Speaker 1: I said, twenty eight to three, I was going back

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01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:54,680
Speaker 1: and forth with this one in some other games, but

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01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 1: it just seemed that app State took their foot off

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Speaker 1: the gas at halftime. And I mean, look the emotional

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01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:04,040
Speaker 1: letdown from weeks now of emotional games, you know, going

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01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 1: back to North Carolina A and M and Troy last

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01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:09,559
Speaker 1: week with the hail Mary and Troy bouncing back back nicely.

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Speaker 1: By the way, James Madison College football is one true

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01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 1: Madison anywhere else in the Sun Belt, anywhere else in

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01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:21,680
Speaker 1: the Will Halbowles Southern miss much healthier version than they

1529
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 1: were last year with a nice.

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Speaker 3: Win against TULANEYUT Wyoming thirty eight to twenty four.

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01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:30,400
Speaker 1: Air Force Big over Nevada.

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01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:33,680
Speaker 3: Uteph We had a Boise fan call in about the

1533
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 3: UTEP game twenty seven to ten. UTEP knocks off Boise.

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01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 3: Boise fired Tim Plow. Yeah, offensive coordinator in dirt Cutter.

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01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:45,599
Speaker 1: Dirt Cutter's back, which sounds like a decision made by

1536
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 1: somebody a lot older and richer than Andy Avlos. Yeah yeah,

1537
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 1: so who he himself is probably not in the chilliest

1538
01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 1: seat in Boise with the expectations and rightfully so. In

1539
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 1: the is it the Treasure Valley? I think it's the

1540
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:03,919
Speaker 1: treasure Valley. Maybe I'm wrong on that Air Force comfortably

1541
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:06,559
Speaker 1: against Nevada, which everybody's going to be comfortable against Nevada

1542
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 1: this season. San Diego State sneaking by I think a

1543
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 1: decent Toledo team, not great, but decent. Colorado State losing

1544
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 1: the sax State tie. Can't do that. Can't lose to

1545
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 1: an FCS team by thirty one. Otherwise, Yeah, New Mexico State,

1546
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 1: who's not that good, took it to Hawaii. San Jose

1547
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 1: State a nice went against Western Michigan at home. Navy,

1548
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 1: by the way, one, how about that tie? How you

1549
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 1: didn't believe rightfully?

1550
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 2: So?

1551
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 1: But Navy takes down East Carolina at home? Mike Houston,

1552
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 1: East Carolina, Speaking of Houston, the buy you bucket? How

1553
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 1: about a baby? Is Houston's and Houston's alone? By the way,

1554
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 1: you know who's having a nice little season for rice

1555
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 1: Luke McCaffrey. Yeah, wide receiver, Yeah, baby, Luke McCaffrey. Yeah.

1556
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:54,679
Speaker 1: You see if you mentioned in Georgia Tech, Memphis takes

1557
01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 1: down North Texas Temple shut out, you mass stand Drayton

1558
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 1: five two and two. Yep, big game, big game for

1559
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 1: a EJ. Warner. Oh is that true? Big game for

1560
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:09,719
Speaker 1: the Warner family. Well, EJ. Warner gets his first win, okay,

1561
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:12,680
Speaker 1: and not something I forget where the other Warner is

1562
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 1: playing wide receiver, but he got some action as well.

1563
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:16,760
Speaker 1: I think it might be a Caid Warner. Is that

1564
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:20,680
Speaker 1: the one I'm thinking on? Yeah, UNLV. Doug Brumfield, we

1565
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:23,640
Speaker 1: mentioned UNLV on our our Tuesday show last week, our

1566
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 1: midweek show that un LV one of those teams that

1567
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 1: has been very much down and very much improving. And

1568
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:31,919
Speaker 1: so for UNLV to beat the reigning Mountain West champs

1569
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 1: by ten points, very impressive. Anywhere else ty that you

1570
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 1: want to take this Liberty over Akron, No any thoughts,

1571
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:44,759
Speaker 1: I don't road Runners of utsa big over Texas Southern

1572
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:49,600
Speaker 1: by the way, Western Kentucky absolutely murdered out. Not like

1573
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 1: Steven F. Austin Warner. Oh my gosh, seventy three nothing toppers.

1574
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:58,920
Speaker 1: Steven F. Austin beat something called Warner ninety eight to nothing?

1575
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:02,719
Speaker 1: Was it around it? It was literally speaking of Kurt Warner.

1576
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 1: He decided to take on a team himself. Was it

1577
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 1: really ninety eight nothing? It was ninety eight nothing great?

1578
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:16,680
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's excessive. Monroe beat Lafayette. Do you

1579
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:19,559
Speaker 1: remember Rana Lafayette? Yeah? Do you remember when we did?

1580
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 1: We even mention Fordham? Yet fordam Ohio, hold on, hold

1581
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 1: on eleven miles of offense, contin hold that thought.

1582
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 3: Do you remember the uproar it called it caused that

1583
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:34,920
Speaker 3: one time Wisconsin scored eighty points the eighty Burger and

1584
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:38,480
Speaker 3: there was so much like conjecture around college football.

1585
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 1: Media like who was that it was?

1586
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 3: I forget who it was who they beat, but they

1587
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 3: put up like eighty points and everyone was talking like

1588
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 3: is this sportsmanship? Is this bad sportsmanship? To put up

1589
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 3: ninety eight on a team? I feel like crosses the line.

1590
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 1: It probably does. Was the eighty point Wisconsin game where

1591
01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 1: somebody asked Brett Bielimo why he went for two up

1592
01:21:58,360 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 1: forty six, and he was like, that's what the court

1593
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:02,680
Speaker 1: sid with the court said, I don't know what's the

1594
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:06,880
Speaker 1: cord soon I remember that. I don't know if that

1595
01:22:06,920 --> 01:22:08,640
Speaker 1: was the eighty point game, but there was there was

1596
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 1: something where Repulum was up by a ton and went

1597
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 1: for two.

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01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 3: It's the court said, all right, tell me about otherwise thing?

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01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 1: Okay, So Fordham put the fear of God into Ohio

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01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:26,200
Speaker 1: on the road in Athens. It's okay. Fordham quarterback Tim

1601
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 1: de morat five hundred and three yards through the air

1602
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:32,599
Speaker 1: fourteen point four per pass. Curtis Rourke had five thirty

1603
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 1: seven himself. Fotus Coco Sulis photos Coco Sulis, Fortum's number

1604
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 1: one receiver, thirteen catches for three twenty. WHOA, Maybe he's

1605
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 1: the full dood alert. He might be. He's the full

1606
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 1: dood alert. He's the only dude, h we can at

1607
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 1: Georgetown got murdered. Lafayette embarrassed itself. I don't know if

1608
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:52,560
Speaker 1: you want to get into patrio letgue stuff, but I

1609
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:53,840
Speaker 1: have some dudes if you want to get into do

1610
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:54,559
Speaker 1: I would.

1611
01:22:54,439 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 3: Love to do the dood alert here? Four week four?

1612
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:02,720
Speaker 3: Who do We got.

1613
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 1: Good receiver week? By the way, speaking of our guy Fotus,

1614
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 1: how about Tyler Scott at Cincinnati. I mentioned he went

1615
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:11,400
Speaker 1: off for a buck eighty five. Michael Wilson at Stanford

1616
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 1: went for one to seventy six in a losing effort

1617
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:17,719
Speaker 1: against Washington, who looked good. Not world beating, but Washington

1618
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:19,639
Speaker 1: definitely looked good. We didn't really talk about that game.

1619
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:21,600
Speaker 1: Both of those receivers for Florida by the way in

1620
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 1: addition to Anthony Richardson, but Ricky Pierce Sall and Justin

1621
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 1: Shorter in a losing effort. Yeah, I mentioned Jaden Ott

1622
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 1: Blake Korum of course with what he was able to do.

1623
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 1: Devin H. Chane squad on your shoulder Saturday, absolute dude

1624
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 1: for texts, A and M. How about Adrian Martinez an

1625
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 1: all purpose efforts, total offensive effort from Adrian Martinez leading

1626
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 1: the way in that upset win. You know what I'm

1627
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 1: gonna say. Bo Friggin' Nicks for Oregon was a full

1628
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 1: on dude. How about that Tie goes for four to

1629
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 1: twenty eight career high in a comeback winning efforts. Cam

1630
01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:56,680
Speaker 1: Ward also a dude? How about that in that matchup

1631
01:23:57,439 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 1: Braylan Allen in a losing effort. Oh man, poor Wisconsin fans.

1632
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 1: I guess Braylon Allen goes for one hundred some ond

1633
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 1: yards one hundred and sixty seventy yards. So a bunch

1634
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:09,639
Speaker 1: of dudes on both sides of the ball. I saw.

1635
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 1: There was a kick six in the Montana State game,

1636
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 1: a safety set. The coach's son had a kick six

1637
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 1: and established himself as the all time leading tackler for

1638
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:23,080
Speaker 1: Montana State in the same game. How about that guy?

1639
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:25,000
Speaker 1: I should get his name right. I think it's Howk,

1640
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 1: Robbie Howke, Robby Kuk. Yeah, Bobby Howk is the legend

1641
01:24:29,080 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 1: must protect this hawk. Yeah all right? So well, as always,

1642
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 1: we appreciate it. It's Montana. It's Montana, not Montana State. Sorry, Grizzlies,

1643
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:41,480
Speaker 1: I apologize. I'm an idi apologize. He apologize.

1644
01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:43,960
Speaker 3: Thank you one and all for calling into the reverbs,

1645
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 3: for hopping into our discord over at for bowlers dot com.

1646
01:24:47,800 --> 01:24:51,200
Speaker 3: For supporting the show as you always do. We are

1647
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 3: about two weeks out now from college football, the game show,

1648
01:24:54,360 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 3: the experience, Yes, the immersive college w ball experience that

1649
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 3: everybody on the Eastern Seaboard is talking about. It's going

1650
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 3: to be October the seventh. It's going to be in

1651
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 3: New York City at Chelsea Music Hall, go to Solid

1652
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 3: Verbal Live or what the hell whatever it takes. Smell

1653
01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 3: tieshair dot com. If you ever so inclined, stop on it.

1654
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 3: We'd love to have you. It's gonna be a lot

1655
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:21,559
Speaker 3: of fun. We have not fully figured out the content yet.

1656
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:25,599
Speaker 3: We're working on the content bit of this, but I'm

1657
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:28,720
Speaker 3: very excited, very excited. I know how you are with

1658
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 3: game shows. You're very good at my shows.

1659
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:34,879
Speaker 1: I'm already thinking about props and blindfolds and noise canceling

1660
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:37,720
Speaker 1: earphone and all sorts of fun stuff. Yeah. I'm going

1661
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,599
Speaker 1: to put a blindfold on you and these noise canceling

1662
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 1: earphones on you, and I'm gonna say, name all of

1663
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner's children in five seconds. Yeah, and can at

1664
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 1: least for Kansas State, by the way, Kansas State, Thank you.

1665
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:49,880
Speaker 1: I know two of them. I don't know if there

1666
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 1: are more. We can find it.

1667
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1668
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, name as many Temple players as you can in

1669
01:25:53,960 --> 01:26:00,760
Speaker 1: twelve seconds. Oh my god, Oh the guy huh Red Riddick? Yeah,

1670
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 1: Hassan is that? Wasn't he playing a temple Hassan Riddic? Yeah? Okay,

1671
01:26:05,160 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 1: that's all. I forget his name. Okay.

1672
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 3: Anyway, thank you to one and all for bearing with

1673
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:12,080
Speaker 3: us here. Longer than usual show, but a lot more

1674
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 3: action than usual in week four. So much to discuss here.

1675
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 3: We'll be back on our regular Wednesday show to break

1676
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 3: down more of this. Honestly, we couldn't get it through.

1677
01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 3: Couldn't get through all of it and get you set

1678
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 3: for week five. Ahead thanks, as always stay solid, Peace