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Speaker 1: This is the Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts with Evan

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Speaker 1: Lazar and Alex Barth. I'm in Lazar Lazar, everybody nailed it,

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Speaker 1: joined us, always buying our bark David match. Here is

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Speaker 1: Evan Lazar and Alex Barr who's a quarterback's best as

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Speaker 1: to have receivers that can open quick. Okay. Well, am

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Speaker 1: I not sitting here saying trade for Jerry Judy? This

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Speaker 1: this is exactly what I was hoping for. I had

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Speaker 1: options for the open this week. Is that twenty minutes

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Speaker 1: we went, we went, We got fired last week. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. We're gonna get fired up again this week too,

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Speaker 1: because Alex Alex, Alex Bart, Evan Lazar, Patriots Catch twenty

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Speaker 1: two coming your way for the next let's call it

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Speaker 1: hour and fifteen hour and twenty you know well, you

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Speaker 1: that hung on and continue to listen. That by my

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Speaker 1: frustration level, admittedly for a team that has won six

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls during my lifetime, so let's face it, there

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Speaker 1: isn't much frustration to have. My frustration level with the

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Speaker 1: Patriots after the owners meetings and what was said at

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Speaker 1: the owners meetings, alex set at all time high and

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Speaker 1: all time high. And it's for many different reasons that

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Speaker 1: we're gonna uncover because we're gonna give our takeaways from

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Speaker 1: the owners meetings, We're gonna do some draft talk. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna take your phone calls five five Pats five hundred,

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Speaker 1: web radio at Patriots dot com if you want to

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Speaker 1: email us. But I think the biggest, the biggest thing

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Speaker 1: that I am frustrated with is this organization from top

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Speaker 1: We are both. I think I came off during the

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Speaker 1: season as a little bit of a Mac defender. That's fine,

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Speaker 1: but I think we're bolt and I don't want to

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Speaker 1: would say undecided, sure, incomplete, I like that or in

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Speaker 1: Patriots organization, since the day that Josh McDaniels accepted the

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Speaker 1: everything everything possible to ruin mac Jones, to ruin his confidence,

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Speaker 1: to ruin his on field product, to ruin their most

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Speaker 1: Matt Patricia and Joe Judge. Well, let's just call it

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Speaker 1: the coaching. Yeah, the coaching staff putting him with those

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Speaker 1: I still do not think from a philosophical team building

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Speaker 1: so obviously the coaching staff last year, Yeah, Mac Jones

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Speaker 1: know if Bill Belichick truly believes that that's the best

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Speaker 1: not talking about with media. I want to make that clear,

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Speaker 1: because I don't think my opinion or your opinion ultimately

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Speaker 1: Then I don't think the media's opinion matters. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's the trends around the league. It's the other Right.

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Speaker 1: They took that picture with the head coaches and the GMS,

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Speaker 1: that receivers truly matter, right, like truly change decks for teams,

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Speaker 1: say to himself, we're going to sign Juju Smith. Schuster

428
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 1: is really just a replacement for the guy we let

429
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 1: leave and we'll see you in August, right, Like, I

430
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 1: just don't think that that's how these other teams would

431
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 1: approach it, and I think that that's how the Patriots

432
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 1: approach it. So my frustrations at an all time high,

433
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 1: my confidence levels at an all time low, because I

434
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 1: really feel like we can start talking about the fact

435
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 1: that maybe his from a personnel standpoint, the way that

436
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: they run the team, I think that we might be

437
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 1: in the category that starting to be in that territory

438
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: of this passing bill by a little bit how to

439
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 1: build the roster in terms of what's important, right, you know,

440
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: he drafts a guard. Everybody else at that spots drafting

441
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 1: a receiver or drafting a skill talent type. To be fair,

442
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 1: he the guard he drafted was overdrafted because three other

443
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: cards went ahead of him in the first round. But

444
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 1: I get I get what you're saying, I let's let's

445
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 1: see what happens in the draft. But I get also

446
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 1: drafted by teams that had the other pieces fair places.

447
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 1: If you were the Chargers and you wanted to draft

448
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 1: Cole Strange, then it's not as big of a deal,

449
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 1: right right, It's a luxury pick. It's like running back. Yes,

450
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 1: So I just I think that that's where we're at

451
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 1: right now at the Patriots. It's very frustrating for me

452
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: to sit back and watch this all unfold like this,

453
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 1: And I'm genuinely curious as we get closer to the draft,

454
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 1: and I think Draft weekend for now, I could be wrong,

455
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: and you know, we could find out tomorrow. And I'm

456
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 1: not saying I have any information about this, but I

457
00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: think that it's going to be a little bit quieter

458
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 1: around the league for the next couple of weeks, that

459
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: all teams are all draft and draft mode right right,

460
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: you know where they're at it, right They're they're really

461
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: trying to set their boards, you know, things like that,

462
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 1: And so I think that the veteran movement might be

463
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 1: a little bit quieter now until the draft and once

464
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: we get to the draft. The Patriots are in a

465
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,719
Speaker 1: position now in the draft where they have to come

466
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 1: at a draft weekend with somebody at the receiver position

467
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: that they feel like it is a potential game changer,

468
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 1: right whether they draft one or they trade for one

469
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: on draft weekend somebody it's got a Jay Assends a

470
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: Flowers or Jerry Judy, like you know, whoever you want,

471
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 1: pick it from a hat. They have to come out

472
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: of that weekend with somebody with us saying that guy's

473
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: gonna demand coverage, that guy's gonna be in number one,

474
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 1: whatever a way you want to phrase it. And I'm

475
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: not confident that they I don't know if the person

476
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Speaker 1: in charge thinks that way. Yeah, it's you, it's your

477
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 1: Tuesday meeting guy. Yeah, that's what you're looking. Do you

478
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 1: think that he thinks that way. I'm genuinely curious because

479
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 1: I just nothing that he's done for three years now,

480
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 1: it shows evidence that he does. Well, Look, we know

481
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 1: that they're in on Judy. They've been in on Judy.

482
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like they've closed the door on that yet.

483
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,959
Speaker 1: Right again, he could make this straight tomorrow and then

484
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: this whole conversation is irrelevant, I think. So I would

485
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 1: hope that Bill O'Brien is kind of in his ear

486
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: about this. Yeah, because you gotta remember where Bill O'Brien's

487
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 1: coming from. He came out of the twenty twenty one season.

488
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,719
Speaker 1: He was in line to be one of the top

489
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: head coach and hires in college football after twenty twenty two,

490
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: and you know, he puts it together with Bryce Young

491
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: winning hisman and all that, and then they had a

492
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: down year and he kind of has to reset his stock.

493
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 1: And I can't imagine he would have come here without

494
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 1: some sort of assurance that the offense is going to

495
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: be upgraded. And Evan you said it before, right, they've

496
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: like as Smith Schuster an upgrade over Jacobe Myers. Yes,

497
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: but if they really upgraded or if they just improved

498
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 1: individual spots, right, because they just should be in the

499
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: mark for Juju Smith Schuster. And that's so that's what

500
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I think the hope even if Bill

501
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 1: doesn't think that way, And to me, I think he's

502
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: this is more of a craft thing. But I wonder

503
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: if it's trickled down to Bill Robert crafts things always.

504
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: I don't like when he's always like, I hire people

505
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: that know more about football than meat to make the

506
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: football decisions. That's his whole thing, Right, I would hope

507
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: that the approach is kind of even if Bill Belichick

508
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: doesn't foot feel that way. He now has an offensive

509
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: expert in Bill O'Brien, who's going to tell him, Hey,

510
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: for my offense to work, this needs to be a thing,

511
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: right right, And so to me, whether Bill feels that

512
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: way or not as irrelevant. He should be deferring to

513
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien on that. And Bill O'Brien I would think,

514
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: does feel that way. Yeah, I would hope. So if

515
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 1: that all makes sense, yeah it does. I mean Bill

516
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: O'Brien was in Alabama. You mentioned it in twenty one

517
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: with you know, Jamison Williams and MATCHI and all those guys,

518
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: and then when it was in Houston, obviously had DeAndre

519
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: Hopkins until the very end, and even will Fuller when

520
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 1: he was healthy, was a big game changer for them.

521
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: So you would think that he recognizes that. I just

522
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: I always come back to does the head coach recognize it?

523
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: Because ultimately I think that he makes all the decisions.

524
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 1: I understand the other voices. I understand there's other inplot,

525
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, I think the

526
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: buckstar stops with Bill and he makes all the football

527
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 1: decisions for this team. So that's fair. But I think

528
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: I guess it's semantics at this point. But you know,

529
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: is it him. Does he need to recognize it or

530
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: can it be enough that he's open minded enough to

531
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: let somebody else convince him to do it, whether he

532
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: thinks it's the right move or not. I hope so,

533
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: because otherwise, because I think I think that one's a

534
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: lot more like, because otherwise you're staring at a situation

535
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: with the quarterback you don't feel great about and a

536
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: middling offense in terms of personnel. So so we're right

537
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: back at eight and nine, right, I mean, that's what

538
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: we're staring at. Bill, Brian's worth a couple on nine. Okay,

539
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: let's go to the phones and then we'll do some

540
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: draft stuff. Nate, I know you want a T shirt, Nate,

541
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: which is pretty cool. But do you have a a

542
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: question or a take or anything? Oh Nate, No, allright, nope,

543
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: he doesn't. You want a T shirt on PU? That's cool? Patty,

544
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: what's up? Patty up? Guys? Hey, Hey, so Emman, I'm

545
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: glad you brought up philosophical points, and I think at

546
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: least for this team, we definitely need to bolster up

547
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: the line because we saw what happened last year. I'll

548
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: give you my input, but I mean, look at the

549
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: best quarterback on the planet after he got his ass

550
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: kicked up and down the field against the Bucks a

551
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: couple of years ago in the Super Bowl, Casey said,

552
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: we have to protect this guy. This guy will elevate

553
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: everyone around it. Mac Jones is not at that level yet.

554
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: But here's where I'm thinking. I said this on Rook

555
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: Show yesterday. The more and more the closer I get

556
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: to the draft, I feel like with that number fourteen pick,

557
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: like you just I'm gonna pair it pretty much everything

558
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: you just said. Trade the pick away for that stug

559
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: wide receiver or my at crush State Flowers even at fourteen.

560
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you might think it's the reach, but dude,

561
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: look at Cold Strange last year. How that was like

562
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: the reach of all reaches. Right? But I think if

563
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: you're going to do that too, I mean, maybe you

564
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: look out in the second round and one of these

565
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: guys like a Darnel right Siwan Joones, Falsey and maybe

566
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: the latter's wish to thinking, or maybe you just package

567
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: some stuff and move up and get a guy that

568
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: you can, you know, one of those guys that can

569
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: sit behind Riley Reap for a couple of weeks, or

570
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: if he's ready to go week one. You get him

571
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: out there and Reef is your backup. But yeah, I

572
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: mean fundamentally, you pick this kid fifteenth. Overall, you have

573
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: to build the offense up around them. The offense was

574
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: the problem. Your offense. The fact that you couldn't score

575
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: points last year is the reason why you stuck. I mean,

576
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: if they had any sort of you know, just a

577
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: halfway decent weren't functionable offense last year, they probably could

578
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: have won him get But that's where I'm coming from.

579
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear more on the draft because

580
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: you know, this is my time of year. Two guys,

581
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: and this is why I love listening to you guys,

582
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: because you guys break it down like nobody else. Thanks, Patty,

583
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Thanks for the call. So the point about

584
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: the offensive line is a good one. It's obviously a problem,

585
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: but I think that there's that's the part of the

586
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: offense that I'm most confident is going to see organic

587
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: growth because his wide receiver, no, his offensive line, because

588
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: you have Bill Ryan and Adrian Clem here now, and

589
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: I think those two together will make a lot of

590
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: the guys that are already here better players and I

591
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: would also just say that like last year, though, they

592
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: completely blew up the protection system. They changed the entire

593
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: protection system. They stripped it down, and they completely changed

594
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: it to the point where mac Jones is getting to

595
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and they're not able to block it. Right,

596
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: They're just not able to get hat on a hat.

597
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: I think now you'll have less of those just mic

598
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: point issues and just assignment breakdowns and things like that.

599
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: That's not to say that they that they can, you know,

600
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: punt to the sixth round on tackle like nobody's sure,

601
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: nobody's saying that, but I do think that the coaching

602
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: is a little bit I'm also a little bit more confident.

603
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: And the one thing that I'm still a little bit

604
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: confident in them with the draft is finding offensive lineman. Yeah,

605
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: wherever they take him. In terms of the upside of

606
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: the offensive line though, I look, I get what you're saying.

607
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: I just think it's gonna be a more That's a

608
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: position in particular that if it's fundamentally more clean, then

609
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: you can get away with it. I think receiver is

610
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: a position that you need talent, but I think it

611
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: receiver you have Tae kwant Thornton, who, in theory, should

612
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: be able to make a jump this year. Right, young guy,

613
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: you're gonna I also want to say, get Kendrick Bourne

614
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: back like he missed last season. Right. I'm still not

615
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: sure they should. On the offensive line, how much do

616
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: you again your your thing in theory about the coaches? Yes,

617
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: and that honestly, Cole Strange is the guy I'm most

618
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: excited about in that record. But you've got Riley Reef

619
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: who's three five. What's his ups Like? How much more

620
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: is he gonna give you than what he's shown? And

621
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: Trent Brown the issue's availability. You can't coach that. So

622
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: it's still in. Maybe they figure out something with Calvin Anderson.

623
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: But at tackle, I don't think. I just think coaching

624
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: solves it. You're not wrong. I just think you can

625
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: coach up. I'm more becoming. Look how much can Riley

626
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: Reef be coached up? No, I don't think it's about that.

627
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: I think that that with offensive line play, it's a

628
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: five man unit, right, and the five man unit working

629
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: in unison and being pointed in the right direction is

630
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: half is more than half the battle at that that's fair.

631
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: But a lot of people talk about offense. An offensive

632
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: line's only as good as its fifth best player. I

633
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: don't know if I adhered to that. I feel like

634
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: they could, I believe it in some senses, and I

635
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: feel like they could raise the level of that fifth player.

636
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: It would go a long way, certainly. And I still

637
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: think offensive line to me is still top fifty need.

638
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: Whether it's their first round or second round, I still

639
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: want to see that address. And let's call it, you know,

640
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: the top, the top sixty or whatever you want to

641
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: call it. All right, I didn't I hate round numbers.

642
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: I feel like we always harp top fifty to one,

643
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: top one hundred to me, meets first two days, yeah earlier,

644
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: and then I know it goes to like one oh four.

645
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: But firstly, in the draft, they need to draft to

646
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: tackle that has startable caliber traits immediately, yes, right, somebody

647
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: that they can plug and play as a rookie potentially.

648
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: But I you know, going back to that Chiefs example

649
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: for example, Yes, they did go out in trade for

650
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: Orlando Brad and they paid Joe Tuney. Yeah, but some

651
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: of those pieces on that Chief's offensive line were like

652
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: day three draft picks. You know, guys that were that

653
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: were like third to seventh round picks, So it doesn't

654
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: all have to come early. As my point, and I

655
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: do think coaching really helps with that regard. Scheme helps.

656
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 1: It's not just about fundamentals Dante Scarneckiet hit in the

657
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 1: sled at training camp, but you know, behind the practice fields,

658
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: it's also about how does this scheme help the quarterback?

659
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: How does this scheme help the lineman. You know, you

660
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: talk about moving pockets, you talk about quick drops, you know,

661
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: quick quick outs, things like that. You know, there's all

662
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: so many different ways to protect the offensive line. I think, well,

663
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: I think that can be said about wide receiver too.

664
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: Evan last year we had guys in patterns running into

665
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: each other. I fully recognize that. I also think that

666
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: this comes also down to maybe are slightly different opinions

667
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: still on tycon Thornton, Like I'm just not I can't

668
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: have him him. I wasn't sold when they drafted him,

669
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: and I'm not I'm not sold after him. I guess

670
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: my overall thought at both it received those kind of

671
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: two things. It's my take on receiver the receiver position

672
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 1: as a whole, and might take on what they need

673
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: to do with the fourteenth pick. Right, my take on

674
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: the receiver position as a hole, and we've established it,

675
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 1: they cannot bring in another guy who's just gonna mix

676
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: it to the rotation. They have a ton of good

677
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: number two wide receivers, Kendrick Bourne, DeVante Parker, maybe Taekwon

678
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: gets there right. Juju obviously is like a low number

679
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: one high number. But like those are really good complimentary pieces.

680
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: We don't need to do the thing where they bench

681
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: Kendrick Bourne again or bench Davanta Parker like they have.

682
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: You're not adding anything at that point because you can

683
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: only have so many guys on the field at once.

684
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: I'm with you, but so but here's the thing. So

685
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: my other take is with the fourteenth pick, Yes, that

686
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: guy needs to play. That cannot be a rotational player

687
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: whatever position he's at. Right, That's why all you're Lucas

688
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 1: fanness mock drafts can go f off. Right. That guy

689
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: needs to be like an eighty percent used to drake

690
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: guy at minimum. Right. I don't trust them to draft

691
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: a receiver and play him eighty percent of the time

692
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: because you don't trust them to draft the right receiver

693
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: because you don't think that they'll play the guy. Yes, Yes,

694
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: because This is my next question to you, because I gotta, like,

695
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: I I gotta hold a gun to your head for

696
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: a second. Yeah, you're at fourteen. You're on the clock.

697
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 1: Yeah you are. I'm telling you you're taking a wide receiver.

698
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: Who is it? I can't trade down, No, don't worry

699
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: about all that optics, all right, Like just top receiver

700
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: on your and everybody's on the board. Yeah, sure, Like

701
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: I think so, I think js ends the best player,

702
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: but I think Za's probably Again, So it goes back

703
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: to Z's gonna play more and he gives you something

704
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 1: you don't have. So I think the gap is close

705
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: enough that I would take Za because they're gonna draft

706
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: JSN and he's gonna sit behind Juju. He's gonna have

707
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: like a fifty percent usage rate. And they threw the

708
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: pick out for twenty twenty three, and I've said the

709
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: seven it's a win now year Robert Kraft said last week,

710
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: it's earlier this week. It's very important they make the playoffs. Ye,

711
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: so probably Za because he's gonna give you the most

712
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 1: in year one. And I know that's not how you're

713
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: supposed to make draft picks, but to me, this is

714
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: kind of the corner. They backed themselves into who's gonna

715
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: give you the most right now? So it would be Za.

716
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: But at the same time, do you believe if they

717
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: draft Za Flowers he becomes their number one wide receiver

718
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: this year? I do, because I think we're gonna get

719
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: out into camp and it's gonna be so clear that

720
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: he's the best receiver on the team that it would

721
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: be malpractice to put camp last year At times, but

722
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm talking like, I don't think we've truly seen you

723
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: and I I mean because we've you know, we haven't.

724
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: I don't think we've truly seen what it looks like

725
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: when like Randy Moss steps on a practice. Would you

726
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: count that? Would you count Brandon Cooks? I covered Brandon Cooks.

727
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: Maybe Brandon Cooks looked different. I remember that rank different.

728
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: I was at BCS. We also, for what it's worth,

729
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: Yeah we did. I was at BC's Pro day on

730
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: Friday and I was standing next to Mike Greece during

731
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 1: Zay Flowers his workout. You and I have already seen

732
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: Zay in person at the Shrine Bowl and Zay ran

733
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: the corner post route. Watching him run unbelievable put on

734
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: Twitter and Mike Reece looks at me and he goes, well,

735
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: that's different, and I was like, it is, yes, because

736
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: we our eyes are not used to guide moving like that.

737
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 1: The fluidy, this explosiveness, all of it that. I think

738
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: I asked the Jason z question because I put this

739
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: out on Twitter the other day and of course like

740
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: got like seventy replies of people telling me I'm a moron. Uh. Jason,

741
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 1: to me is the best receiver in the draft. Has

742
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: been since the moment I started draft watching wide receivers.

743
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: For this, He's been since well before that too, but

744
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: since well before the last two months. Personally wide receiver

745
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: won since January for me has been Jackson Smith and Jigba,

746
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: no doubt about it, probably since October when we found

747
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 1: our Kshan boute was. I'm also fully confident that Jackson

748
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: Smith and Jigba's gonna catch one hundred balls somewhere. Yeah,

749
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 1: maybe not as a rookie because of rookie reasons, but

750
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: when the life of his rookie contract, he's gonna have

751
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: a hundred top three slot receiver in the league when

752
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: he at his peak. Right. But with that all being said,

753
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: I think this is a little like quarterbacks. Now where

754
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: I think Zay Flowers is the highest ceiling of any

755
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: prospect in this draft A size maybe Quentin Johnson, but

756
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Zay Flowers for the Patriots because of

757
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: the route running and all that stuff. Zay Flowers has

758
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: the highest ceiling of any draft prospect in this class,

759
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: and Jason has the highest floor. So do you at

760
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: some point in time? I think the Patriots are in

761
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: the position. The Patriots consistently draft to get on base.

762
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: They they are a fairway team, right, They just want

763
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: to get Is that a golfing, the line on the fairway,

764
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: that's on the fair That's how I That's how I golf.

765
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: That's how they want. They are a fair let this draft.

766
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: Instead of taking out the driver with all that risk,

767
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: they take the three wood, nice little easy, old man

768
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: shot one eight straight down the middle. See you later.

769
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: That's how they draft, and that's how Alex calls. That's

770
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 1: how they draft. So with that, knowing that you made

771
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: a golfer, I'm sorry you made a calf for everything

772
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: that's he's about this. I was expected j s n

773
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: is the pick. But if you really want to if

774
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 1: you want to take the old the old driver out

775
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 1: and try to drive the green in a par four.

776
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: Another golf reference for you, go Zay Flowers is the

777
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: Pits So and I have a buddy that golfs like that,

778
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 1: and it's sometimes it works, sometimes it's a disaster. Sometimes

779
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: you go through three balls on the whole. Right To

780
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: put it another way, because I was actually gonna say

781
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 1: this before you use a golf analogy and you want

782
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: to put it in another way, well, I wasn't expecting

783
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: you gonna make a golf analogy when it comes to

784
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: the Patriots, Yes, should they be trying to draft the

785
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna have eight hundred yards on one hundred

786
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: catches or the guy that's gonna have twelve hundred yards

787
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: on sixty catches twelve yards for sixty's why, that's why,

788
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm saying Zach and that's why he's

789
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: more that kind of player, because I think that they

790
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: have the possession guys and Stayed an explosive guy, and

791
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: and yes, Quinton Johnson, Quinton Johnson probably fits that mold too.

792
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, for what Bill O'Brien wants his wide receivers

793
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: to do, quick, Zay is going to be able to

794
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 1: do it better and quicker. One more point on that,

795
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: just to wrap it up. So we're having this conversation again.

796
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: You put me on the spot, I have to take

797
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 1: a wide receiver, assuming that guy's going to be the

798
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: number one. What I keep coming back to and again

799
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: they just it's it's not a wide receiver thing of it.

800
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: They don't unless it's on the line. They don't play rookies,

801
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: they don't do it. Look at what we went through

802
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: a running back last year in quarter Well let's one

803
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: example of that. But I guess they put Kobe and

804
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: they had to, and they put Zappi in last year.

805
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: They did put Zappi in. You're right, yeah, if they're here.

806
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: Here's basically where it comes down to to me about

807
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: being hesitant on wide receiver in the first round. If

808
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: I knew that they were going to play the guy

809
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 1: and make them the number one zay I, Yeah, okay, fine,

810
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: I see that. But if they're gonna draft a guy

811
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: that's only gonna play forty five fifty percent of the

812
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: time at most, well, then just draft that guy in

813
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: the third round because you're treating them like a developmental

814
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: player anyway, So just go get one of the high,

815
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: lower down, higher upside receivers that you don't that you

816
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 1: can get by without playing that much. That's kind of

817
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: why I'm hesitant about wide receiver in the first round.

818
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: That's fair, if that makes sense. That's sorr. All right,

819
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: let's run through these phone calls and then we'll get

820
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: to the draft. Get to the draft, like we're not

821
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: already not to win the draft. Christopher and Fresno. What's up, Chrissy,

822
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. I've have two questions for you

823
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 1: guys after watching the tape. Do you really think that

824
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: Dave Flowers to be like an Antonio Brown two point er.

825
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: I'm really starting to think that he's not going to

826
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,919
Speaker 1: be a reach out fourteen. It's like the talents there.

827
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 1: I really think that people get too much into, you know,

828
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: like the hight stuff and all that. But man, if

829
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: the guy's a playmakers, a playmaker. And then my second

830
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 1: question to wrap up, then I'll get off the air.

831
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: Is that what are your thoughts on Jalen Marno Cropper

832
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 1: and I want the friends of State. I saw him play.

833
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: He was excellent player. Who's up the Shrine Bowl. I

834
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: just want to get your thoughts to that probably get

835
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: him in the fourth round. So thank you, guys, No problem.

836
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: The z A question that I think is a goo

837
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown. You know, I threw that out there as

838
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: kind of, uh, you know, let's feel the hype trade. Yeah,

839
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: but uh no, I don't think that that he's there.

840
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: I think where he reminds us like if he maxes

841
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: out everything right. So I think I'll give you two comparisons,

842
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: because I think one of them is for Patriots fans

843
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: that aren't necessarily as familiar with you know, everybody in

844
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 1: the rest of the league and things like that. I'll

845
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: give you a Patriots from the past comparison, and I'll

846
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 1: also give you who I think he is in today's NFL.

847
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 1: The guy that I think he is in today's NFL

848
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: is I think he's very very similar to Jalen Waddle

849
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: from a sized comparison. I don't Jalen Waddle has not

850
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: been First of all, Jalen Waddle didn't test right because

851
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 1: he was injured, so we don't actually know how fast

852
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: he is. You know, the rumors are out there that

853
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: he would have ran in the four twos, like who

854
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: actually knows, right when you put him out there? On

855
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: the track and see what he's got. Jalen Waddle though,

856
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: in the league, and maybe this is just because of

857
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: how Miami has used him, but he's been more of

858
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: that slot possession receiver in the league than he was

859
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: at Alabama. At Alabama, he was the vertical guy. Now

860
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 1: they've turned him into more of like a slot possession guy.

861
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 1: The main reason why I put that the Jaalen Waddle

862
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: comparison out there is, yes, the speed, but I also

863
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 1: think Jaalen Waddle's got some of that jitterbug quickness that

864
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: Zay Flowers has. And from a size standpoint, they're basically

865
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: the same person, Like they're both five nine eighty pounds, right.

866
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: I think that the size thing was Za gets a

867
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: lot of people caught up because he's smaller, but he's

868
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: literally the same size as Jalen Waddle, who's got back

869
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: to back a thousand hard seasons in the league. So

870
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: it hasn't been a problem for Waddle. The pass from

871
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 1: the past guy, and I think this is a better

872
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: one than Jalen Waddle. He reminds me a lot of

873
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 1: Deon Brands. Yeah, yeah, that's a good comp He reminds

874
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: me a ton of Dion because Deon Branch had that

875
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,439
Speaker 1: second gear to go over the top, but he also

876
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: had that ability to create separation at the top of

877
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 1: the route. He was an explosive player at the football

878
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: in his hands, exposed to all over the field. Well,

879
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: I think the big thing with Dion Branch, and honestly,

880
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,359
Speaker 1: this probably plays better in today's game than it did

881
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: when Branch was playing. Just the way teams scout opponents

882
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: and all of that. Branch's route tree was deep. And

883
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,720
Speaker 1: you know, we've heard Corner, we heard Steph gilmore about

884
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: talk about this. At times, he would know what routes

885
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: a receiver generally runs and that's all he had to

886
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: worry about recovering a guy, right, Like, Okay, this guy

887
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: doesn't really run a seven yard in so I don't, like,

888
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: I don't have to worry about that, right. Za's route

889
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: tree is massive, and look, some of that comes to

890
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: the coaching and it's this nature verse narrature thing. But

891
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 1: like there, and Dion Branch was like this as well.

892
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: Again where you can't all three levels, right, you can't,

893
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 1: and all three levels on the outside, you know, outside

894
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: the numbers between the hashes. Like he is, he is

895
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: a threat on any play to run anywhere on the field,

896
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: and that inherently before you even get to skill level.

897
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: I'm not saying Zay's not skilled, he is, but that

898
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: attribute inherently. The Patriots haven't had a guy like that

899
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: in a long time. Probably, Yeah, but I think what's

900
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: you was Julie Edelman like that a little bit, but

901
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: not really. You haven't had a guy like that in

902
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: a long time. That can be an advantage. One more

903
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: thing I'll speak on to what he said about the reach. Yeah,

904
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: So this is where it gets interesting. I think a

905
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: lot of people are saying Zay Flowers is a reach

906
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: at fourteen because we've been talking about what a down

907
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: year this is for receivers. And that's true. Zay Flowers

908
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: at fourteen last year, based on who was available, unless

909
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: receivers went with like five of the first ten picks,

910
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: would have been a reach. Yes, but he's Is he

911
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: the best or second press receiver in this class? Yes?

912
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 1: If fourteen, if you really feel like a receiver is

913
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: the key to unlocking Mac Jones, then yeah, Zay Flowers

914
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: at fourteen makes sense even though this is a down class. Yeah.

915
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: I watched some Deon Branch clips to make sure that

916
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: my memory served me right on this comparison and watching

917
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: Dion Branch run routes from like old school twenty one

918
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: twelve personnel under center where he's, you know, the flanker

919
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: like he played in today's NFL. The space, amount of

920
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: space that they would scheme for that guy would be crazy,

921
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: And I think it's pretty if you look at I

922
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: sent it the RAS comparisons card to you of Dion

923
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 1: versus A Flowers. It is remarkably close. Dion's a little

924
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: bit thicker, like he's got I think he had maybe

925
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 1: five to ten pounds on Zay Flowers, but forty time

926
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: agility or he didn't at forty times jumps you know,

927
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 1: five foot nine, one eighty five, right in that range.

928
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: They were almost identical in terms of athletic profile. So

929
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: that that's who I would use if you're a Patriots

930
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: fan and you want to patch from the past comparison

931
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 1: the friendno State kid, I don't know much about you,

932
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: Jalen moreno h Crawford. Yeah, so he's kind of like

933
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: he tested better than expected to combine. He ran a

934
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: four four flat um, but he's I don't think his

935
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: he doesn't play with that straight line speed. Yeah, and look,

936
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: he's very productive of friendos resinos. Date eighty three catches

937
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: a thousand yards. But he's a pure slot receiver. And

938
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: it goes back to my point that just where is

939
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: he playing? Yeah, if they take him on day three

940
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: as a project, like, I don't hate it. It's kind

941
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: of like I said, if the guy's gonna play forty

942
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: five fifty percent of the time anyway, then yeah, but

943
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: he's not. I've seen people say like he's the answer.

944
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: I think there is like a group of Patriots fans

945
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: that really like this guy. He's not a bad NFL prospect.

946
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: But it goes again back to my thing that he's

947
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: gonna mix into the rotation. And then so he's taking

948
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 1: snaps away from Kendrick Boorne or DeVante probably Kendrick Borne.

949
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 1: Most likely Borne's a better player than him right now.

950
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: I don't know how much that helps. Got Okay, all right,

951
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: we got one more call and then we're gonna do

952
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: our our nice draft segment. I keep teasing Aldred, what's up? Aldred? Hey, Alison,

953
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: I'm doing well. How are you? I'm all right? Love

954
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: show to love what Joe was talking about? All Right,

955
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: I gotta take my boy Quintin Johnson if if you

956
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 1: have to pick a wide receiver outside trying to get

957
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: trying to free everybody up in the middle. But Evan,

958
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: I'm like you, our coach is a dinosaur. Wouldn't come

959
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 1: to GM, especially you know his way. He's always the best.

960
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: So I don't know if you pick up pick the

961
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: good players or not. So that's what I'm like they're

962
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: doing draft season. I'm not happy like I used to.

963
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: I have a board too, and I follow everybody I

964
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 1: would pick, and they do a whole lot belly even

965
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: when they play against us. But uh, JC didn't sound good.

966
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: But I'll still take Quentin Jumps. I'm not. I'm not

967
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: surprised about that, Aldred. So Quintin Johnson, by the way,

968
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,759
Speaker 1: is fine. He is gonna run a forty day. I'm

969
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing that because and me too. Thanks

970
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: for the call, Aldred. With Quentin Johnston hed my my

971
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: biggest issue with him. And I know a lot of

972
00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: people have issues with the way that he plays the

973
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: ball on the field, which I think is a concern too,

974
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: Like he's not he's more of a body catcher and

975
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: he doesn't really extend his hands and go out and

976
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: and go up and elevate for the ball. He's like

977
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 1: six foot three, and you would expect him to be

978
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 1: like DeVante Parker, but he's he's not, right, He's only

979
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:16,240
Speaker 1: two twelve pounds. Yeah, he's not a contested catch artist

980
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 1: despite his size. So I think people have concerns about that,

981
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: and but my bigger concern is route running and separation

982
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: and his ability to create underneath separation. But to defend

983
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: Eldred's point for one second, because we bag on Johnson

984
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 1: quite a bit on this program. At least I don't

985
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: think we bag. I don't bag on him, I bag

986
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: on his fit for the page. Yeah, I think there's

987
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,479
Speaker 1: places he could go where he'd be very He didn't

988
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: mention being able to take the top off, and yeah,

989
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 1: you know, make the middle of the field a little

990
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: bit more accessible, I think is the best way to

991
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: put it for guys like Juju in the tight ends

992
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: and things like that. And there is some merit to that.

993
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: You know, if you're gonna if you really want a

994
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,879
Speaker 1: draft a dominant outside receiver that's gonna take this safe

995
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: over the top with him, or take some of that

996
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 1: pressure off of the middle of the field. He's probably

997
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: the best thing in this draft. He is, but day

998
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: haven't used that guy the last couple of years. That

999
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:14,359
Speaker 1: role generally isn't very big. And that's the biggest thing

1000
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: is that that the usage rate the volume right of

1001
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: that role. Unless we're talking about Quentin Johnson coming in

1002
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: and being DeAndre Hopkins or Randy Moss, then he's not

1003
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: going to get the volume to merit the pick, which

1004
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: is I think true about any receiver they take. But

1005
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: this is the point I've been made, but especially with

1006
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: the receiver of that ilk. Yeah, of that skill, of

1007
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: that type. Okay, so the draft thing that we wanted

1008
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: to get to today, everybody, and I'm in on the

1009
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: joke now, I'm leaning into this van trying to kill it.

1010
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: I'm leaning into the joke. I'm trying to kill it.

1011
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 1: That's right. Don't worry. We got like another month of

1012
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: my own recency bias. So as some of the regular

1013
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,320
Speaker 1: listeners will already know, but I'll explain it briefly. Alex

1014
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: has this theory and I'm going to admit that he's

1015
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 1: probably right about this that the my favorite player is

1016
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: the player that I watched the most recently in the draft.

1017
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: So I do the draft from the top down, right,

1018
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: So I start with the guys in the first round

1019
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 1: and I work my way down. So this is the

1020
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: type of time of year where I'm starting to get

1021
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: into Day three, right, So I really getting into the

1022
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: nitty gritty now. And I have a recency bias that

1023
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: my favorite player is the last player that I watched.

1024
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 1: So we thought we would do a segment called Evans

1025
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: recency bias, and I'll just tell you some of the

1026
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: guys that I've watched in the last couple of days

1027
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: over the next couple of weeks as we get into

1028
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: the draft that I've really gravitated towards I really liked.

1029
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: So I want to give you one offense in one defense, yea.

1030
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: And I think it's funny because they're both kind of

1031
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: the offensive prospect in the defensive prospect of the same type, right,

1032
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: And I think he'll get what I'm saying in a second.

1033
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: I'll start on offense. Yeah, so I've been starting. I

1034
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: always do like twenty to twenty five receivers. The Patriots

1035
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: never take one, but I always do it anyways because

1036
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: I love watching receivers and I could I could sit

1037
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 1: there and watch wide receivers all day long. It's it's

1038
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: my favorite position to study in the draft. So before

1039
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: the combine, you mentioned Charlie Jones from Purdue. Yes, and

1040
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: I okay, I mentioned Charlie Jones Purdue for the first time,

1041
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 1: like the twenty nineteen I got, I'm just saying ketch. Actually, yeah, no,

1042
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: because I liked him. I liked him him. I like

1043
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: him when he was in the sixth grade. So and uh,

1044
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: you mentioned Charlie Jones from Purdue to me, and I

1045
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 1: watched him initially and I was like, yeah, but you

1046
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: know how, I don't know about this play speed. I'm

1047
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 1: concerned about that. I'm not sure how if he's gonna

1048
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: be fast enough in the league. And then he went

1049
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: to the combine and he put down a four for

1050
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: three and I was like, whoa, Okay, Charlie Jones runs

1051
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: a four four three. I was not expecting that. What

1052
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: I thought he was on film was a guy that

1053
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: plays fast but isn't necessarily running fast. You what I mean, Like,

1054
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: he just has a good play speed. This guy has

1055
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: a good play speed, and he has a good combine

1056
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 1: speed apparently too. Yeah, four or four three is putting

1057
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: it down. That's moving. So what I love so much

1058
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: about Charlie Jones on film is the same things from

1059
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 1: a route running perspective that all of us got all

1060
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: hot and bothered about Hunter Renfro and Cooper Cup and

1061
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 1: like all these types of receiver. He's a really good

1062
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: route runner. And he's also really the other thing that

1063
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 1: he can find space. He can manipulate his routes against

1064
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: his own to find space. So he runs, which, by

1065
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: the way, something Jacoby Myers was excellent at his footwork

1066
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: at the top of his breaks out of the out

1067
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: of the top of the route. I would say outside

1068
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 1: of JSN, he has the best footwork in the class.

1069
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: He's one of those guys that can come off the

1070
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: line and this is like, this is the stuff that

1071
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: gets me hot and bothered. This stuff is is really rare.

1072
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 1: Like I just want people to realize that this is

1073
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 1: not easy to do. He can come off a line

1074
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: on a vertical stem and stopping three steps. Stopping in

1075
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 1: three steps is not easy. It's not So he can

1076
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: come off the line and he can take two steps

1077
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 1: to gather himself, and then his third step he's already

1078
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 1: pointing out of the break right because hims and his

1079
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: foot is already starting to make it out of the break,

1080
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: and he just snaps these routes off man Like, he

1081
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 1: just gets up to the top of this route and

1082
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: he'll just snap it off in three steps. And that's

1083
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: how you lose coverage at the next level. Dies like

1084
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: Zay Flowers. Zay has natural suddenness, right, his quickness is

1085
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: just naturally gifted to him by God. Okay, but he

1086
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 1: takes four or five steps to get out of the break,

1087
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: and that's that's something that he's gonna have to work on.

1088
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to be a little bit more efficient

1089
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 1: at the top of his routes. Charlie Jones ain't like that.

1090
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: Charlie Jones is three steps and out that those are

1091
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: the types of routes that create separation at the next level.

1092
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,240
Speaker 1: When you're that efficient at the top of the route,

1093
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: that's how you can really break out of routes. What

1094
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: I also, you know, the four for three. I bring

1095
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: that up because he is not he's not Julian Edelman

1096
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,439
Speaker 1: and Wes Welker right like, he is not your prototypical

1097
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:11,839
Speaker 1: white slot receiver. He's not that he is. He's got

1098
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 1: more straight line speed than that. Now, he's not a

1099
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: vertical threat either, And I think that that was some

1100
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: of the issues that they had at Perdue. As good

1101
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: as he was at Perdue and as productive as he was,

1102
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: they kept on trying to throw him nine routes and

1103
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: he's just like, he's not a goball guy, right, Well,

1104
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: he's their only receiver. Yeah, they keep on trying to

1105
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: throw him goballs down the sideline. And I read some

1106
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: other people's like draft right ups on him because I'm like,

1107
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: what am I missing about this guy? Like this, This

1108
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: guy runs well, his athletic profile is solid. He's a

1109
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: little bit bigger than like a typical slot receiver too,

1110
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 1: he's like five to eleven right one eighty, and he's

1111
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: also got this just fantastic technique at the top of

1112
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: the route. Yeah, And I think a lot of people

1113
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: were pointing to the fact that a lot of his

1114
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: targets down the field were contested and he doesn't really

1115
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: run away from coverage down the field. And my pushback

1116
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: on that would be, well, I don't think that he

1117
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: was being used correctly. I don't think he's he's not

1118
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,439
Speaker 1: a go ball artist, right, Like you don't don't throw

1119
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 1: him jump balls down the sidelines. When he gets the NFL,

1120
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: I think he's going to move more inside and on seams,

1121
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: on crossing routes. That's where the four four three is

1122
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 1: going to be able to run away from coverage, right Like,

1123
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 1: that's where he's going to be able to create separation.

1124
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: So I'm all sorts of bullish about Charlie Jones. I

1125
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: think that in terms of mid round prospects, and I

1126
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: want people to understand I'm not talking about at fourteen. Yeah,

1127
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: but in terms of like I would say, basically at

1128
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 1: the start of the third round on I'm taking Charlie

1129
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: Jones over the field. Well, this this kind of goes

1130
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 1: back to my point of if that if the receiver

1131
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: they take is going to play fifty percent of the

1132
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 1: time no matter where they put him, he'd take Charlie

1133
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: Jones in the fourth round rather rather than Zay Jones

1134
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: in the first. Yeah. Well, he's an excellent Actually you

1135
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 1: watch him return punts a little bit, but he's I know,

1136
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: Marcus Jones, but he's an elite kick and punt returner

1137
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: as well. He didn't return kicks last year at Purdue,

1138
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: but go back twenty twenty one. Watch him turn kicks

1139
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: at Iowa. He's in Marcus Jones doesn't return kicks, He

1140
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: only returns punts. Yeah, Charlie Jones really really good returner.

1141
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 1: That was one thing I was more so than the

1142
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 1: contested targets down the field, because again, I think that

1143
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: was more about situation and how he's being used. The

1144
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: one thing that I was a little bit concerned about

1145
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: was how dynamic he would be with the football in

1146
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: his hands, because he's not going to break very many tackles,

1147
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think he's got that like jitterbugs,

1148
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: you know, jump out of a tackle quickness. They did

1149
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: use him a little bit on screens, epper dude, and

1150
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: they try to get him some runways off of screens.

1151
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: So I think that he's going to be able to

1152
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: run away from some people. But he's not going to

1153
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: be a big time YAC guy, I don't think. But

1154
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: if you just want a guy to run a twelve

1155
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: yard in like, he's your guy, yea. You know there's

1156
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: nobody that runs a dig route better than this guy

1157
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: in this class. One other thing about Jones that's a

1158
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: fit for the Patriots is he's twenty four and since

1159
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, the Patriots have the oldest average draft age

1160
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: in the NFL, So they like these guys that are

1161
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: a little more developed, gonna come and physically ready to

1162
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: play in the league. It turns twenty five in October,

1163
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: but that's another guy you kind of target for that

1164
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: kind of thing. So that's my recency bias on fun offense.

1165
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: My recency bias on defense is the Charlie Jones defense.

1166
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: Riley Moss for former teammates from Iowa. Former teammates. Yeah, Now,

1167
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 1: before we get into the scouting report, don't there's no

1168
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 1: Iowa connection with the Patriots, Like I think that this

1169
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: gets overplayed. So there is, but they don't use it.

1170
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: They don't use it. They don't never drafted from mine.

1171
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 1: That's my point, right, they don't, So it's not necessarily

1172
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 1: about that. What I loved about Riley Moss. First of all,

1173
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 1: I watched him specifically against Marvin Harrison junior last year

1174
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 1: in Ohio State. I thought he did a really good

1175
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,120
Speaker 1: job on Marvin Harrison. Did you watch against Charlie Jones.

1176
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 1: I did. That was a fun one. Yeah, that was

1177
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: a good matchup Charlie Jones. Also the Syracuse Kid burnt.

1178
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 1: The Syracuse Kid likes Garrett Williams. Yeah, yeah, Garrett Williams

1179
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 1: put the Syracuse Kid. I thought I'd get more excited

1180
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: about him as the as the process has gone on.

1181
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,439
Speaker 1: That hasn't been the case. No, my god, poor kid.

1182
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: And anyways, Riley Moss, what I like so much about

1183
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: him is that I see two different ways that he

1184
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 1: can contribute to the Patriots long term. I think he's

1185
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: a corner. I think he's got good enough ball skills, instincts, speed,

1186
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 1: certainly long speed, ran like a four four seven. He

1187
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,959
Speaker 1: checks that box to play corner. But if it doesn't

1188
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: work out at corner, I think he could be a

1189
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: really really good safety. Right so, I think either way

1190
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,880
Speaker 1: you're getting a good defensive back with Riley Moss. Whether

1191
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: he plays corner, he plays safety for you. A really

1192
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: instinctual player, heady player. Their defensive coordinator of Parker is

1193
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 1: his last name. I forget the first name right now,

1194
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 1: of course, but he's like a savant right like. He's

1195
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: known to be a dB master, Like he just turns

1196
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 1: out dB prospects left and right. He's better in zone

1197
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 1: than he is in man right now, which is why

1198
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 1: a lot of people think he's going to move to

1199
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 1: safety because he's got that those instincts and those ball

1200
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: hawking traits. But I think he can play man. And

1201
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: like I said, he went toe to toe with Marvin

1202
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 1: Harris and Junior, Like it wasn't a clear win. I

1203
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 1: think Harrison Junior finished with like seven for sixty seven

1204
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: in the game, which for him is like nothing. So

1205
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,919
Speaker 1: the fact that you held him to sixty seven yards

1206
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 1: on seven catches me like I've been doing this with

1207
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: um Deontay Banks. Yeah, allowed five catches for sixty three

1208
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: yards against Ohio State this year and it sounds like

1209
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 1: a lot. But against that offense as the number one corner,

1210
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: you only allowed five catches for sixty three yards. You

1211
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 1: did very well. Yeah. So I really like Riley Moss.

1212
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be an instant contributor on

1213
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,760
Speaker 1: special teams as well. Yeah. And so he's a three

1214
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 1: two phase player that has a couple of different avenues

1215
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: to be an NFL starter. So I'm really high on

1216
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: him as well. So those are my two recency bias. Guys.

1217
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: I just feel like a guy like Riley Moss a

1218
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: special teams one. Uh No, I feel like Riley Moss

1219
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:53,439
Speaker 1: is also you know this safety class, Alex the deeper

1220
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 1: that I get into the draft, the safety class ain't great.

1221
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: It's not great. Well, you're gonna hate my recency picks.

1222
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 1: Then maybe changed my mind on some of these safeties.

1223
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: Well now you're gonna watch him in love. But you

1224
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 1: look at Devin right, and you look at I just

1225
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 1: just hearing his story again and go into the retirement

1226
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 1: ceremony and talking to him and things like that. You know,

1227
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 1: the transition from corner to safety worked out. Couldn't have

1228
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: worked out better for Devin mccordy. So maybe that's the

1229
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 1: path that they end up going, is taking a corner

1230
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 1: who might not have the stickiness to play corner at

1231
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:27,920
Speaker 1: the league, in the league in man coverage at at

1232
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 1: a high exposure rate, but he ends up being a really,

1233
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 1: really good safety in the league instead. And I think

1234
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 1: Riley Moss could be that guy who are your recency biased?

1235
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 1: So on offense? A guy that I know you like.

1236
01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 1: I watched a little more break Blake Freeland from BYU.

1237
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 1: He's tall, looks like a Patriots sixty eight three h

1238
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 1: two thirty four inch arms. He'll get more muscle on him.

1239
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 1: And this is me, hand up, my bad. I'm uc

1240
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 1: by U prospects being like twenty five, twenty six years old.

1241
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: He's only twenty's only twenty two. Yeah, so there's and

1242
01:03:58,120 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 1: I know I just said the thing about older prospects

1243
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:01,479
Speaker 1: and get to that in a second. But there's rumor

1244
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 1: grow four year starter. You tweeted this out yesterday. They

1245
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 1: love the experience. He's played on both sides, two years

1246
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: starter at right tackles and two years of starter at

1247
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:12,520
Speaker 1: left tackle. He moves well, he has the technique down.

1248
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 1: I think he just he's not like as built as

1249
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: he needs. He's literally too tall. That that My biggest

1250
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 1: concern with him is is leverage and paddler. But if

1251
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 1: he puts muscle on, I think it'll be fine. Like

1252
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 1: Nate Solder was six seven, right, so he made it work.

1253
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 1: But I think Nate Solder is a good comp for him, Like,

1254
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that's totally the guy. Yeah, Nate Solder is.

1255
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 1: Uh what I think the one difference that I see

1256
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 1: um with Freeland. Now, granted with Freeland the level of

1257
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 1: competition might have played into but he moved people at

1258
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 1: BYU right in the run game. I'm talking about you know,

1259
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 1: you watch him get on a double team, you watch

1260
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 1: him combo up like that guy was was moving people

1261
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: at that level. Now, he went to the Senior Bowl

1262
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 1: and he was really had a rough week in pass protection,

1263
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 1: but he was still pretty good in run blocking at

1264
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl too, And he had a really good

1265
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 1: block early on in the game itself in the Senior Bowl,

1266
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 1: a perfect combo playing right tackle, just right up to

1267
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 1: the backer and opened up the hole for the running back.

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01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 1: He's got he's a really good run blocker. Like I

1269
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 1: think he might be a better run blocker coming out

1270
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 1: than Solder was. But Solder was a little bit further

1271
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 1: along and pass pro. But with him, it's just about

1272
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 1: pad level, Like is he gonna be able to have

1273
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: the flexibility at the knees and the hips to bend

1274
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 1: down and go get a Joshu j right? Is he

1275
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 1: gonna be able to do that? But I just think

1276
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 1: with you know, there's that kind of day two group

1277
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:40,520
Speaker 1: of tackles, it's really not there's only nine tackles expected

1278
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 1: to go in the first two days. Yeah, and that

1279
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 1: I think it was. The number was like sixteen last year. Yeah,

1280
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 1: so it's way down. But that group of Blake Freeland,

1281
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: Jalen Duncan, Matthew berger On. I am in that order now,

1282
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,280
Speaker 1: I guess let's put it down. Yeah, I'm starting to

1283
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 1: gravitate towards Freeland Matt among that group. To Jalen, Duncan

1284
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 1: is probably a little bit more stout and build than

1285
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 1: he is so obviously. Bergieron to me is a guard.

1286
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: So I've written him and maybe play right tackle, but

1287
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 1: he's like a right tackle right guard combat. We want

1288
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 1: to talk like you want to throw Scronsky and like

1289
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:13,800
Speaker 1: everybody immediately throws Skurnsky into that category of guard. I'm

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01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 1: with bersier On on that, Like, I think Bergieron is

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01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: a guard, but mainly because of his range and his

1292
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 1: footwork and pass protection, right, he just doesn't have that

1293
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 1: ability to get out to the edge like you need

1294
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 1: to at that position. And Duncan is Duncan is like

1295
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 1: Day two Broderick Jones. Right, Yeah, so he's raw, but

1296
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 1: he's got a lot of tools. And uh, yeah, I'm

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01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 1: with you. I think Freeland's somebody that they I mean, yeah,

1298
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 1: you literally can't draw up a more carbon copy of

1299
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 1: Nate Solder if you tried two guys quick on defense,

1300
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: Byron Young from Tennessee, because there was also a Byron

1301
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 1: Young from Alabama who plays confusing on the defensive line

1302
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 1: as well and is projected to on the same range

1303
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 1: in the draft. Yeah, Byron Young from Tennessee. First of all,

1304
01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 1: great story, like worked out of high school, went to Juco,

1305
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 1: was one of the top JUCO recruits. Two year starter Tennessee.

1306
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 1: He is twenty five. But it goes back to what

1307
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 1: I said before. The Patriots like these older prospects who

1308
01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 1: are a little bit further along. Monster production, twenty three

1309
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 1: and a half tackles for loss, twelve and a half

1310
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 1: sacks in twenty six career games. He's a good pass

1311
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: rusher right now. The run defense is coming along. But

1312
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 1: with Josh hu Chain a contract here, Anthony Jennings in

1313
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 1: a contract here, I think he could realistically play on

1314
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 1: either side. I think he could be your strong side

1315
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 1: edge setter or your weak side pass rusher. He's supposed

1316
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 1: to go on this, you know, on the second day.

1317
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 1: Because he's older, there's not as much ceiling. But that's

1318
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 1: a guy like and then you said no safeties. Do

1319
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 1: you watch Ronnie Hickman from Ohio State. He's on my list.

1320
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 1: So he's a Patriots safety. He played over one hundred

1321
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 1: stamps last year in the slot on the boundary at

1322
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 1: corner box safety, deep safety. They also used him to

1323
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: rush the passer. He also played a ton of special teams.

1324
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: He was a captain. Yeah, like he's just so he's

1325
01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 1: a Buckeye. So let me get to that. S good size,

1326
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 1: six foot two oh three, tackles very well. Yeah, tackles

1327
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 1: very well, which they wanted that position, you said, But

1328
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 1: he's a Buckeye. Facts new director College Scout and Cam

1329
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 1: Williams played his college football at Ohio States. Maybe that

1330
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 1: there's a level of familiarity with the program. It changes

1331
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 1: things and guess whatever. And I have a guy on

1332
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 1: special teams. I watched that. I like, you're gonna hate this.

1333
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 1: Oh no, I already hate it. I don't even know

1334
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 1: who it is. Shedrick Jackson from Auburn is Bo Jackson's nephew.

1335
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,679
Speaker 1: It's a wide receiver, but he covered kicks and punts

1336
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 1: for Auburn the last three years. So he's Matthew Slater

1337
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 1: ran a four two five forty is pro day so

1338
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 1: it runs a four to three runs Okay, But like, yeah,

1339
01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 1: and there's a little bit of upside there at wide receiver,

1340
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 1: I'd say more so than Matt Matthews. Slater played safety

1341
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 1: in college. He did, so that fact, he don't I

1342
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 1: don't think he was. Um, I'm trying to find the

1343
01:08:57,760 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 1: stats here real quick. He wasn't Auburn's leading receiver, but

1344
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 1: he contributed as orsi react. So last year he had

1345
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:06,800
Speaker 1: forty catches for five hundred yards. Okay, So you know

1346
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 1: he's projected to going drafted. So he's a guy they

1347
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 1: don't need to take him. Maybe they take him with

1348
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 1: that pick they got for Johnny Smith. But really good athlete,

1349
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:19,000
Speaker 1: experienced on teams. Little bit of intrigue. There's a wide receiver.

1350
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 1: He basically replaced Christian Wilkerson. But there's a role for

1351
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 1: that guy. Okay, So Shedrick Jackson Auburn. So one of

1352
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,000
Speaker 1: the things that we're working on mock draft three point out.

1353
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 1: Deuce and I were gonna have it out next week,

1354
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 1: and I totally forgot just talking about special teams and

1355
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 1: versatility and all. I totally forgot about Derek Parrish and

1356
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 1: H and H Coletto. You forgot about ja Jack Coletto's

1357
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 1: gonna be a Patriot. You forgot about it, right, And

1358
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 1: so I was I was trying to fill out the

1359
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 1: day three picks, you know, have those four six round picks,

1360
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 1: and I was like, probably gonna take one of those guys,

1361
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 1: aren't they. Coletto's the one they worked with. He was

1362
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 1: better at the Shrine and Hornig Award winner, more experienced

1363
01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball, which is where

1364
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 1: either of those guys is probably gonna play. Yeah, I

1365
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 1: think it's Collett. Yeah, I I the reason the only

1366
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:07,640
Speaker 1: reason why I put Paris put would put Parrish in

1367
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 1: the mock is because we think it's gonna be COLLETTI

1368
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 1: have you watched Hunter Lepke, Yes, and no, he's like, Okay,

1369
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 1: he's not two way, but like that kind of hybrid move, fullback,

1370
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 1: tight end thing, like he fits that mold too. So

1371
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 1: those are the three guys. We didn't get some emails

1372
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 1: today somebody asking about Tank Dell, who we haven't talked

1373
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 1: about as much a long time, probably since before the combine, right,

1374
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 1: because just didn't didn't do didn't do enough at the

1375
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 1: combine to warrant the risk of the of the size. Right, Yeah,

1376
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 1: if you're gonna be that kind of size, he's what

1377
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 1: five seven, and he measured it much smaller than that

1378
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:50,640
Speaker 1: was the It's not just that he didn't test well

1379
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 1: enough for his size. He came in significantly smaller, yeah,

1380
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 1: than we expected five eight, one sixty five. Right, So

1381
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:58,640
Speaker 1: if you ran a four four nine forty, Yeah, if

1382
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 1: you're gonna be that size, you gotta be in four threes.

1383
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 1: Yah to pick him early. Yeah, if you want to

1384
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 1: take a Day three flyer on the guy, then that's

1385
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 1: one thing. So yeah, I gotta take questions. We got

1386
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 1: another interesting question about I've heard this this theory floated

1387
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 1: with Jerry Judy a couple of times, and that is

1388
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 1: why don't they just trade down and then trade to

1389
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 1: pick for Jerry Judy? Right, Like, if the Patriots are

1390
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:23,720
Speaker 1: really if the Broncos are hung up and getting a

1391
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 1: first round pick and the Patriots are are telling them

1392
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 1: that fourteen is too rich, then trade down into the

1393
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 1: late twenties of the draft on Draft night and then

1394
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 1: instead of picking you, you trade the twenty ninth pick

1395
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:39,080
Speaker 1: in the first round for Jerry Judy. Yeah. So the

1396
01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 1: question is is there anything preventing that? The answer is no,

1397
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 1: as the one thing preventing it is if there's another

1398
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:48,600
Speaker 1: team that really wants Jerry Judy and you trade it.

1399
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:50,639
Speaker 1: Let me let me pull at the NFL draft order

1400
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 1: here real quick. Um, what prevents it is basically another

1401
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 1: team doing the same thing, or a team being fine

1402
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 1: parting with its first round pick, because as I pull

1403
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 1: up the order right here, right, so they would fall

1404
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 1: behind the spot we've all had the moving down to,

1405
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:09,679
Speaker 1: it's like twenty, right, or even if they move down further.

1406
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 1: If a team like Washington or a team like Pittsburgh,

1407
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 1: one of these teams, a team is like a team

1408
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 1: like Tampa. Oh, they want to first and you trade down, right,

1409
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 1: We'll just give you this one ahead, right, You risk

1410
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 1: the word being out there that there is a deal

1411
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:26,280
Speaker 1: in place. The Broncos might also say, like, you can't

1412
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 1: really Are the Broncos gonna say, well, no, we wanted fourteen.

1413
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 1: That's the other risk in it. Yeah, like you really

1414
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 1: can't offer that to the You can't offer four Once

1415
01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 1: you offer fourteen, that's off the table because it sort

1416
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 1: of becomes a slap in the face. Yeah, And reality,

1417
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 1: you would be off table anyway, because if the Broncos

1418
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 1: say no to fourteen, they're gonna say no to nineteen.

1419
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty one. I also know this is crazy, but

1420
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 1: at some respect it's not How much time do you

1421
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 1: actually have when you're on the clock, right, isn't it

1422
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 1: like ten minutes or something like that. Yeah, you would

1423
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 1: need to line it all up ahead of time. And also,

1424
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 1: by the way, if you do that, let's say they

1425
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 1: get a first in a second for that pick. Right. Yeah.

1426
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:05,200
Speaker 1: If I'm the Broncos, I'm gonna say no, we want

1427
01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 1: what you just got for fourteen. We wanted the value

1428
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:09,680
Speaker 1: of your first round pick. Yeah, we're not taking it.

1429
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:13,280
Speaker 1: So you you you'd have to It's it would be

1430
01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 1: incredibly risky because you'd have to line it all up

1431
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 1: ahead of time. But at the same time, you kind

1432
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:20,720
Speaker 1: of can't line it all up ahead of time. Yeah.

1433
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:23,800
Speaker 1: We also got an email. Remember the guy last week

1434
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 1: that emailed in about how awful Jerry Judy is. Yes,

1435
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 1: so he brought some more evidence to the Okay, and

1436
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 1: now well he's emailing I'm going to follow up on

1437
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:35,080
Speaker 1: this too. We keep going about a game in twenty twenty,

1438
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 1: which was Jerry Judy's rookie year, where he dropped five

1439
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 1: passes in one game, and this is this was the

1440
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:44,280
Speaker 1: game that according to our friend Bryant and Denver, this

1441
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 1: is the game that that was the nail in the

1442
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 1: coffin of Drew Locke's NFL career. You know, me, I

1443
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 1: was a big Drew lock out. Is because Jerry Judy

1444
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 1: went out and dropped five paths. I think we mentioned

1445
01:13:56,280 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 1: that early on in his career drops were were an issue. Yeah. Year,

1446
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 1: his drop rate was lower than Julian Edelman's over the

1447
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:06,160
Speaker 1: final few years of his Yeah, so he started to

1448
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 1: figure it out as well as I have my rant

1449
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,479
Speaker 1: about drops and how relevant they actually are as a

1450
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 1: receiver stat but that's not here nor there. What was

1451
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 1: your other You had another Jerry Judy opinion? So somebody

1452
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 1: in the chat on YouTube, and yes, I do kind

1453
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:22,719
Speaker 1: of look at the chat periodically during the show because

1454
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:26,360
Speaker 1: I don't pay attention to that, right, somebody was asking

1455
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 1: why we want Jerry Judy when he was no different

1456
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 1: than Nelson agile Or last year. It's somebody like if

1457
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 1: Nelson agil Or couldn't fix it, they were the same

1458
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 1: player last year. I don't know what exactly what he

1459
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 1: was talking about. I don't think they're similar players stylistically

1460
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 1: at all. I can't prove that right here, right, we'd

1461
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 1: have to pull up the film, but just they're not.

1462
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:48,960
Speaker 1: My proof would be you saying that. But if that

1463
01:14:49,080 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 1: person is still listening. Jerry Judy last year in fifteen games, yeah,

1464
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 1: sixty seven catches, nine hundred and seventy two yards, six

1465
01:14:57,080 --> 01:15:00,640
Speaker 1: touchdowns a thousand yard pays Nelson ag Lore in one

1466
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 1: more game than Jerry Judy played less than half the

1467
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 1: catches thirty one to sixty seven, third of the yards

1468
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty two yards and two touchdowns. There

1469
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 1: was somebody in the chat that was just really insistent

1470
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 1: about it. I felt the need to clari. Okay, so

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Speaker 1: I just the last thing, I would you agree with

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Speaker 1: that that Jerry Judy's better than Nelson al And then

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Speaker 1: one thing I'll about Jerry Judy in particular, I also

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01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 1: think that we have to continue to recognize that the Patriots,

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01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:34,680
Speaker 1: in trading for Jerry Judy, in theory, are trading for

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01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 1: a player that hopefully is ascending, not descending. Yes, Jerry

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01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 1: Judy is only twenty three. Not only is he only

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01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 1: twenty three, he is I think it's like fourteen months

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01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 1: older than Zay Flowers, right, So so he's like talking

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01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 1: of age of some people in the draft. He's a

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01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 1: nine hundred yard receiver last year, thousand receiver that we

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01:15:57,160 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 1: are hoping is going to get even better as we

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01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:02,719
Speaker 1: progress here, right, right, you know this is not DeAndre

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01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 1: Hopps and is gonna grow with mac Jones, right, and

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01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 1: so that that's the goal. So I think that a

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Speaker 1: lot of people look at Jerry Judy and that are

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01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 1: not all in on Jerry Judy, and they look at

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01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 1: it and they say, well, what is he right now?

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01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 1: And what is his production right now? The Patriots are

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01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:19,600
Speaker 1: hoping that they're getting prime Jerry Judy, who's going to

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01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 1: take off into a perfect yard guy. Maybe that's a

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Speaker 1: little bit too. No, I've gotten this a bunch. Why

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Speaker 1: the veteran when the younger player has upside? Jerry Judy

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01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 1: was born April nineteen ninety nine. Yeah, Zay Flowers was

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01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 1: born September two thousand. Right, they're gonna be the They're

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01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 1: not gonna be the same age when the season starts,

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01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 1: still be year older. But yeah, yeah, no, You're you're

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Speaker 1: getting Hopkins is different. If you want to say Hopkins

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Speaker 1: verse or rookie, you can have that conversation because it's

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01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:52,720
Speaker 1: a sending Verse de sending Jerry Judy is still very

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01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:55,640
Speaker 1: much on the way up and getting better. And you

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01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 1: saw it in a career year last year. Yeah, absolutely,

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01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:01,559
Speaker 1: all right, before we saw off, Alex it is Opening day?

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01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:03,759
Speaker 1: Is the Red Sox is a big day for Alex

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01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 1: right now? Opening day for base acknowledge baseball? No, yes,

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01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:11,640
Speaker 1: I acknowledging it right now, Evan, tell me why now,

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01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 1: let me ask you my question before we sign off.

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01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:17,760
Speaker 1: Tell me why I should be any any ounce of

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01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 1: b should be excited about this Red Sox season. Is

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01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 1: there any reason whatsoever that that they could actually I

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01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 1: didn't even want to say surprises, but just make baseball watchable.

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01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:32,639
Speaker 1: So the reason you should be excited about this MLB

1513
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 1: season is the pitch clock's going to change everything that's

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01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 1: not the shifts. So I'm going to somebody's house to

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01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 1: watch the game after this, and I was like, I

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01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 1: won't miss that much. Like it's because the game start

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01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 1: at the same time as the show that I'll miss

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01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:47,720
Speaker 1: a couple innings. Right, it's already the top of the fourth, Evan,

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01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 1: in an hour. It was great. You can watch these games.

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01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:53,759
Speaker 1: Is it zero zero? Still? It is? Uh four one Baltimore.

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01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 1: I would say why you should be excited about the

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01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 1: Red Sox is Brian Bayo and Tristan Causes because the

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01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:04,680
Speaker 1: young guy, even if they're not gonna even if the

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01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 1: Red Sox aren't going to compete this year, if they're

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Speaker 1: going to compete in the near future, those two guys

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01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:15,640
Speaker 1: need to be at Those two guys, those two you

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01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 1: asked them answering the question. Those two guys need to

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Speaker 1: be players, and we're gonna find out this year because

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01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 1: they should be with the team for the majority of

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01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 1: not all the seasons. So well, Bale's hurt right now,

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01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:29,639
Speaker 1: but I don't I don't bring it back the old boom.

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Speaker 1: I'm not like a baseball die hard as you know. Yeah,

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01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 1: but I always do do get a little bit juiced

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01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 1: up for opening Day. God, I who hates everything falling day.

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01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 1: But I have never in my recollection of my lifetime,

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01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 1: I have never been less jazz up for a Red

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01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 1: Sox Opening Day than I am. So it's it's weird

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01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 1: because of the pitch clock, and they did some changes

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01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 1: with the schedule to all the teams play each other

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01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 1: now like every team plays every team, which is fun. Um.

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01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:58,640
Speaker 1: I've never been. It's been a long time since I

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01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 1: was so excited for a baseball season, like just the league.

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01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm more lukewarm on the Red Sox maybe

1544
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 1: than just like I'm excited to watch some of the

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01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 1: other games that are gonna be on this weekend's padres Tonight,

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01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to watching the Dodgers right like, because

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01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:14,759
Speaker 1: you can actually watch the game now, there's action, it happens.

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01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:18,120
Speaker 1: All right, we'll see about that. All right. Well, we'll

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01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 1: be back next week, and we're in not that we

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01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:23,960
Speaker 1: weren't already, but we're in full draft mode like this is.

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01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 1: We're on the back nine with the draft coming up.

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01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 1: There's another golf analogy for you, Alex, I love it

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01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 1: Masters this week. Ask me about the Masters, Evan, I

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01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 1: will not ask me about the most. We'll be back

1555
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:37,679
Speaker 1: next week full on draft mode, draft preview, draft talk

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01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 1: the rest of the way until the end of April.

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01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 1: So signing off for Alex Bart, I'm Evan Lazar. Thanks

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01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 1: so much for listening and watching, and we'll see you

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01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:49,520
Speaker 1: guys next week. Thank you for downloading this podcast, Subscribe

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