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Speaker 4: Christ is Kase growing anxiety across America as the government

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Speaker 1: Human Events Daily, and today is October twenty first, twenty

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Speaker 10: Yes, and thank you so much for your kind endorsement

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Speaker 10: obviously have you know, it sounds like he was in

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Speaker 10: a relationship with this, you know, man who identified as trans.

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Speaker 10: And I don't think it's a coincidence that, you know,

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Speaker 10: he chose to shoot literally at that moment when the

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Speaker 10: very first trans question arose. So I think that's entirely

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Speaker 10: a plausible possibility to be explored.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's just it seems it seems to me that

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Speaker 1: there's so much involved here that of course we're not hearing,

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Speaker 1: and then we see these, you know, these text messages,

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Speaker 1: which are obviously admittedly strange, but you know, between him

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Speaker 1: and Twigs the boyfriend, and he's you know, taking a

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Speaker 1: face value, it seems that there's some sort of you know,

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Speaker 1: loving romantic Romeo and Juliet kind of situation going on.

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Speaker 1: But it it also is a level of catastrophizing where

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Speaker 1: where you know, I had to do this or else

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Speaker 1: your life would have been forfeit. I mean, it's it

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Speaker 1: seems ridiculous, but I guess to the point that I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to make, and what you explained in your book

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Speaker 1: is that when you're caught up in all of these psychoses,

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Speaker 1: that it does actually seem as though you're in a

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Speaker 1: catastrophe to them.

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Speaker 10: Yes, although it's hard to tell sometimes which which is

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Speaker 10: feeding which. So for example, you can just have a

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Speaker 10: desire to murder and then you can you know, basically,

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Speaker 10: you know, sublimate it by coming up with a socially

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Speaker 10: acceptable reason to do it. Right, it's called sublimation. Now,

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Speaker 10: obviously we don't think his reasoning is socially acceptable. Again,

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Speaker 10: it's quite ironic that he said that Charlie Kirk was

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Speaker 10: so hateful right that he had to go shoot him.

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Speaker 10: But a healthy example of sublimation, for example, would be

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Speaker 10: suppose that, like most most surgeons are thought of as

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Speaker 10: maybe sublimating what could be a pathological design to you know,

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Speaker 10: cut people open and you know, get into all that stuff,

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Speaker 10: but they find a socially acceptable way to channel that

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Speaker 10: energy through surgery. And so it's it's possible that instead

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Speaker 10: of his violent eruption coming because of his belief system,

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Speaker 10: he may also have adopted or enhanced his belief system

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Speaker 10: as a cover to accommodate his violent tendencies. Or they

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Speaker 10: can also feed each other in a circular fashion. I

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Speaker 10: do think that there's a lot of very disaffected young

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Speaker 10: men these days, you know. I mean, gosh, if you're

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Speaker 10: a you know, straight white male, a lot.

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Speaker 9: Of doors against another break. Doctor Chloe.

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Speaker 1: I need to hold you over because we need we

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Speaker 1: need to get to the bottom of this. We're guys,

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Speaker 1: we're holding her over. We're holding over doctor Chloe. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: doct Chloe. You're not allowed to leave. The session is

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Speaker 1: not yet finished. I'm not leaving the couch. Jack Posobic

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Speaker 1: Real Markus Voice, Human Events Daily.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Where's Jack?

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Speaker 1: Where is he?

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Speaker 7: Jack?

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Speaker 11: I want to see you.

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Speaker 8: Great job, Jack, Thank you, what a job you do.

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Speaker 11: You know, we have an incredible thing.

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Speaker 9: We're always talking.

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Speaker 11: About the fake news and demand, but we have guys

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Speaker 11: and these are the guys.

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Speaker 9: Shore forgetting Pulseski.

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Speaker 1: All right, Jack Kasobek, we're back here. Human Events Daily.

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Speaker 1: We're on and we're finishing up our session, our therapy

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Speaker 1: session here with doctor Chloe Carmichael. Because doctor Chloe, you

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Speaker 1: were talking you you got it.

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Speaker 9: I mean, this is so amazing.

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Speaker 1: You've tied together sublimation people who have these these perhaps

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Speaker 1: violent but perhaps anger tendencies, and then you tied that

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Speaker 1: and just as we cut you tied that to the

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Speaker 1: rising portion of disaffected young men in society. This is

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Speaker 1: something that I've talked about a lot. This is something

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Speaker 1: that Charlie Kirk talked about a lot. That we have

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Speaker 1: this huge and rising, unfortunately pool of this affected young men.

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Speaker 1: And it's that disaffection. And this has been my argument completely.

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Speaker 1: It's that disaffection, that disassociation with the real world because

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Speaker 1: they feel the real world doesn't have anything for them.

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Speaker 9: So what do they do.

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Speaker 1: They throw themselves into fantasy worlds. They throw themselves into

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Speaker 1: these false beliefs, and in some cases it does produce

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Speaker 1: psychoses like the ones that you've been describing here, because

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Speaker 1: they feel that reality, the real world the sort of

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Speaker 1: quote unquote status quo of society today. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: I'm more than willing to acknowledge that there is a

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Speaker 1: problem in America today for young men that that in

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Speaker 1: some cases those pressures do end up squeezing them to

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Speaker 1: the point where they.

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Speaker 10: Erupt very few outlets for them to just be men

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Speaker 10: without getting labeled as toxically masculine in some circles, right, So,

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Speaker 10: I feel like many of them feel as if they

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Speaker 10: kind of have to subvert that masculine energy or you know,

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Speaker 10: identify as trans or you know, say well, I hate

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Speaker 10: the fascists or whatever, as you know, and it kind

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Speaker 10: of distorts in a way their masculine energy. And then

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Speaker 10: when we throw in this thing about words or violence,

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Speaker 10: I just I find it very interesting that Tyler Robinson,

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Speaker 10: as well as Luigi Mangioni, as well as the Dallas

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Speaker 10: ice shooter and others, they're starting to literally etch words

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Speaker 10: upon their bullets. Right, So, I mean talk about the

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Speaker 10: ultimate confusion of words and violence that this is. As

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Speaker 10: a psychologist, I mean, it's kind of a textbook picture

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Speaker 10: of acting out to your violent feelings. Because these are

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Speaker 10: the very same people who tend to think that it's

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Speaker 10: somehow virtuous to shut down dialogue. This is the same

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Speaker 10: group that statistically much more likely to defriend on Facebook,

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Speaker 10: to disinvite a speaker, or otherwise show social hostility and

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Speaker 10: refuse to dialogue with people who see things differently.

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Speaker 1: Okay, last, and I want to remind everyone the book

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Speaker 1: is can I say that doctor Chloe Carmichael.

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Speaker 9: Oh, we've got the graphic. Don't worry. You don't have

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Speaker 9: to do the.

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Speaker 1: Whole Uh, you don't have to do the whole van

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Speaker 1: of white up there for us and although of course

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Speaker 1: we love seeing it, and it's all about free speech

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Speaker 1: and the attacks on free speech day and how it

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Speaker 1: produces these various psychoses, and how that we should use

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Speaker 1: free speech fearlessly. Obviously wrote this before knowing that Charlie

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Speaker 1: Kirk would.

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Speaker 9: Be killed over free speech.

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Speaker 1: That's the point that I want to ask you though.

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Speaker 1: So the writings on the bullet casings. You mentioned that

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Speaker 1: Tyler Robinson wrote on the bullet casings. He also wrote

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Speaker 1: bella Chow, which is the international anthem of Antifa. You

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Speaker 1: mentioned the anti Ice shooter down in Dallas, Texas. He

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Speaker 1: wrote literally anti Ice on the bullet casings. And the

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Speaker 1: first one that we've seen in the string of violent shootings,

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Speaker 1: violent sniper shootings, was in fact Luigi Maggioni himself who

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Speaker 1: wrote on the bullets when he shot and killed United

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Speaker 1: Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson. Den I defend and depose what

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Speaker 1: is the connection here, because you're right they it's not

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Speaker 1: just that they're they're words or violence. But to the

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Speaker 1: people who believe words are violence, they're writing words on

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Speaker 1: the bullets, which is the act of violence itself. I

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Speaker 1: feel like I'm getting there. Unpack it for me.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, So it's it's interesting, it's I talk about this

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Speaker 10: in my book with something called the five d's. So

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Speaker 10: the same people happens to be people who identify as liberal,

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Speaker 10: who will defriend on Facebook, disinvite a speaker, decline to date,

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Speaker 10: drop or distance contact in real life are literally the

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Speaker 10: same people, according to say you gov polls, that will

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Speaker 10: endorse or celebrate political violence. And so there is something

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Speaker 10: about taking away our words, which is our most natural

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Speaker 10: way to resolve conflicts. I mean, it's literally innate. Even

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Speaker 10: infant babies will respond to human voices in ways that

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Speaker 10: they won't respond to any other sound. We need to communicate.

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Speaker 10: We're hardwired to communicate. And so when you stop people

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Speaker 10: from communicating, or stop yourself from communicating, you are literally

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Speaker 10: just setting the stage for violence for yourself. So I

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Speaker 10: would love to get, say, with Linda McMahon or these

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Speaker 10: other people that are working with young people in schools

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Speaker 10: so that we can help them understand that if they

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Speaker 10: want to reduce bullying and whatnot, the way to do

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Speaker 10: it is not to stamp out speech. It is to

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Speaker 10: promote speech. That is the answer.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't agree more And you're right, this is all ties together.

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Speaker 1: The final expression of the words are violence is the

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Speaker 1: fact that they are turning their words, turning these words

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Speaker 1: into actual expressions of physical violence. This is the penultimate

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Speaker 1: step before actually pulling the trigger. Doctor Chloe Carmichael, incredible interview.

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Speaker 1: Where can people go to follow you?

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Speaker 10: Free Speech Today dot com? If they go to free

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Speaker 10: Speech Today dot com, they'll get my books and my

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Speaker 10: social media handles. I love to mix it up on

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Speaker 10: x Jack, especially with you, So if they go to

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Speaker 10: free Speech Today dot com they can get it all.

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Speaker 1: Check her out Doctor Chloe on xanfree Speech Today dot com. Folks,

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Speaker 1: Well, the government claims fluoride is for quote unquote healthy teeth,

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Speaker 1: our next guest, my good friend Paula Scanlon from Early

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Speaker 1: Vote Action is now joining us.

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Speaker 9: Paula, how are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm good, good to be back with you, good.

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Speaker 1: To be here, and it was great to see you

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Speaker 1: on I guess that was Sunday up with Jack Chiarelli

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Speaker 1: up there in Bergen County and.

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Speaker 9: Paul tell everybody how many people were there. I'm not

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Speaker 9: making this up.

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Speaker 11: There are a few thousand, or at least a thousand, right,

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Speaker 11: I mean, I'm really actually bad estimating group numbers of people,

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Speaker 11: so maybe I'm not the best person to ask. But

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Speaker 11: it was a great event. There were at least a

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Speaker 11: thousand people there. You spoke and did a wonderful job,

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Speaker 11: and many people were excited to see Poso speak himself,

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Speaker 11: and he made the trip and so we're grateful for that.

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Speaker 11: But what I will say is the energy in New

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Speaker 11: Jersey is high. Bergen County is one of those must

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Speaker 11: win counties that will determine the course of the election

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Speaker 11: for Jack and just Jack Chitderelly in two weeks, and

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Speaker 11: so I'm excited to see it.

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Speaker 3: I think the energy is high.

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Speaker 11: I don't think people are very excited about the other

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Speaker 11: candidate who is just Vanilla Harris. That really is who

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Speaker 11: she is, and that's what we've seen. But New Jersey

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Speaker 11: is ready and we're working hard. And again there's so

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Speaker 11: many people that have come out and supported this race,

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Speaker 11: and so we're worth two weeks.

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Speaker 3: To go and we're excited to win this thing.

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Speaker 1: So you mentioned Vanilla Harris. Gosh, she has now Mikey

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Speaker 1: Cheryl has now announced that she's bringing air dropping Barack

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Speaker 1: Obama into New Jersey. And I'm so confused why she

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Speaker 1: would do that because didn't Joe Biden get five hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand more votes in New Jersey than Barack Obama? Is

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Speaker 1: Why is she getting Yesterday's news like Barack Obama and

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Speaker 1: not bringing in the far more popular president Joe Biden.

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Speaker 9: I don't understand it, Paula.

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Speaker 11: You know, I wish I knew too, and I had

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Speaker 11: just tweeted about this actually earlier before coming on. Obama

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Speaker 11: has not been on the ballot in almost fifteen years.

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Speaker 11: Why is this the best person that you have to

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Speaker 11: help campaign and represent the Democrat Party and make the

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Speaker 11: push for Democrats.

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Speaker 3: I think, if anything, Obama is.

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Speaker 11: Unpopular in the state of New Jersey. I think many

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Speaker 11: people in New Jersey probably voted for Obama and then

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Speaker 11: realize the mistake that they've meant because made, because this

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Speaker 11: state has only gotten further and further right every election

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Speaker 11: since Obama was on the ballot. I'm pretty sure this

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Speaker 11: past election, I mean, it was so close, Trump almost

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Speaker 11: beat Kamala, and so it's I have no idea, and

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Speaker 11: I think that they're scrambling. I think it shows that

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Speaker 11: they're desperate here and I think that really there's the

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Speaker 11: excitement for Cheryl is just not there.

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Speaker 9: No, it's not there at all. And we found a

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Speaker 9: picture of her a couple of days ago that showed

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Speaker 9: you that there's no joy. She's not experiencing the joy.

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Speaker 1: We're coming up on a quick break. But New Jersey,

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Speaker 1: we've seen the polls, Titan. We know that it's getting closer.

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Speaker 1: Paula Scanlon is down there early vote Action. Of course,

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Speaker 1: you work with Scott Presler, so many others working directly

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Speaker 1: with the campaign. Look, guys, I've said it and I'll

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Speaker 1: say it again. Njay is the play if you want

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Speaker 1: to put work in. And by the way, go download

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Speaker 1: the Turning Point Action app because the Turning Point Action

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Speaker 1: App can let you work in New Jersey or wherever

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Speaker 1: you like, Virginia, Arizona from the comfort of your own home,

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Speaker 1: will be right back, Jack Posobic, Paula Scanlon, Human Events

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Speaker 1: Daily continues.

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Speaker 9: Jack is a great guy. He's written that fantastic looking

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Speaker 9: everybody's talking about it.

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Speaker 1: Go get it. Patty's been my friend Richman at the

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Speaker 1: beginning of this whole unful event, and.

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Speaker 4: We're going to join her around this make our.

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Speaker 11: Country way to get him?

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Speaker 1: Amen, all right, Jack Pracovic back live Human Events Daily.

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Speaker 1: You're looking at the live shot the East Wing reconstruction

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Speaker 1: of the White House.

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Speaker 9: Wrong with Paula Scanlon. She is working with Early.

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Speaker 1: Vote Action in New Jersey predominantly Early Vote Action. Of course,

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Speaker 1: we know Scott Presler covers New Jersey, Pennsylvania, a number

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Speaker 1: of other states, Paula. For those who are interested in

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Speaker 1: perhaps whether they're you know, willing to hop on a

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Speaker 1: plane or fly over to New Jersey or drive there

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Speaker 1: or whatever it might be, how can people get involved

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Speaker 1: with Early Vote Action.

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Speaker 11: Yes, you can definitely go to our website Early about

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Speaker 11: action dot com. There's information there if you want to

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Speaker 11: see more of what we're up to and get more involved.

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Speaker 11: But you can honestly, message me personally if.

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Speaker 3: You're looking to get involved.

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Speaker 11: Our wonderful state Director Michael Casey is also helping manage

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Speaker 11: our inboxes have been full.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to live to you, guys.

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Speaker 11: I stayed up pretty late last night going over everything

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Speaker 11: with Michael. But what this shows me is that the

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Speaker 11: energy is here. There are patriots from across this country

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Speaker 11: that want to see New Jersey win, and so we

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Speaker 11: have to keep moving on this. We have two weeks

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Speaker 11: left until election day. Make sure you vote early if

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Speaker 11: you're available right now, and if you're waiting till election day,

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Speaker 11: make sure you find a way to get it done.

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Speaker 3: This is so important. Text your friends in New Jersey.

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Speaker 11: I'm going to text all of my friends from college

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Speaker 11: that are from New Jersey this week and make sure

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Speaker 11: that they're all ready to go, ready to vote, and

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Speaker 11: ready to vote for Jack and also for the down

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Speaker 11: ballot candidates. Some of them were there at the event

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Speaker 11: that we were at this past weekend, and that's also

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Speaker 11: equally important. Jack needs support in the local positions to

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Speaker 11: help push his agenda to help better New Jersey, to

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Speaker 11: help put in better policies, and so I've been really

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Speaker 11: excited the energy is really high. People are ready, and

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Speaker 11: people are tired of what's been going on Democrat control

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Speaker 11: in New Jersey, and they want change. And I think

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Speaker 11: this entire country wants to see New Jersey win.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of people have been looking to

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Speaker 3: this race.

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent. I couldn't I couldn't agree more Anook.

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Speaker 1: I saw the energy there on the ground myself. Personally.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually told by the way that another prominent conservative

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Speaker 1: is going to be heading up to New Jersey this weekend,

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Speaker 1: although I'm not sure it's public yet, but look for

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Speaker 1: that coming up this Saturday.

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Speaker 9: Paul, though, I got to ask.

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Speaker 1: You because I know that you you know you're you're

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Speaker 1: working New Jersey, but you actually live in New York City.

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Speaker 1: And I know this because you obviously you tweet about

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Speaker 1: all the time, and you are looking at your city's

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Speaker 1: mayoral race. Now, are you about to be governed by

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Speaker 1: Kami Mamdani?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, it is unfortunately looking that way. I think we're

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Speaker 11: in a situation now where it's a three way race.

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Speaker 11: I don't entirely understand what's going on. I think the

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Speaker 11: fate of New York is is dire. The amount of

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Speaker 11: texts I've received from friends and family in the last

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Speaker 11: couple of weeks just saying.

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Speaker 3: Hey, when's your moving date? Do you need help moving boxes?

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Speaker 11: Because this is the reality that we're dealing with in

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Speaker 11: New York, and unfortunately, we have a lot of brain

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Speaker 11: dead people that don't know any better, people who probably

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Speaker 11: shouldn't even be allowed to be voting in elections that

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Speaker 11: are voting here in New York. It's really sad and

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Speaker 11: pathetic and something when I look at Mom Donnie, someone

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Speaker 11: who's gotten has such privilege to immigrate to this country.

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Speaker 11: My mom immigrated to this country and she moved right

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Speaker 11: here to New York City, and her family worked so

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Speaker 11: hard to live the American dream, and they understand the

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Speaker 11: value and the privilege it is to be an American.

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Speaker 11: And seeing someone like Mom Donnie with all this privilege

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Speaker 11: coming in and saying I don't actually care about the people.

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Speaker 3: I want to put people in danger making the buses free.

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Speaker 11: It's going to become basically moving homeless shelters.

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Speaker 3: The people in the.

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Speaker 11: Streets in New York are already out there. We need

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Speaker 11: more police, not less, And he wants to defund the police.

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Speaker 11: And he tries to walk away from that, but it's

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Speaker 11: been everywhere in his platform, and that's not what we

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Speaker 11: need in New York.

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Speaker 3: We need people to crack down on crime.

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Speaker 11: We don't want to see what happened to Daniel Penny

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Speaker 11: where we have prosecutors trying to arrest heroes.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that will be the reality under Mom Donnie's rule.

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Speaker 1: Here all right, but now here's here's the kind of

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Speaker 1: the question. Because the New York Post ran a cover

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Speaker 1: this morning, and I when I'm at wuah Wah every

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Speaker 1: single morning, one of the first things I do is

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Speaker 1: always check the New York Post and they had a

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Speaker 1: cover that said, basically, I forget exactly. They had some

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Speaker 1: pond about Curtis Sleeve and his beret and they were

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Speaker 1: telling Curtis Leewah to drop out of the race. And

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Speaker 1: there's been you know, we did a huge episode the

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Speaker 1: other day on Thought Crime with myself and the team,

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Speaker 1: the guys, and you know, we watched the debate in full.

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Speaker 1: I thought Cuomo absolutely just kind of destroyed himself. He's

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Speaker 1: sort of self immolated like that like Aaron Danielson outside

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Speaker 1: of the White.

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Speaker 9: House or whatever it was.

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Speaker 1: And then oops, and you know, and Mom Donnie, he

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Speaker 1: comes across very charming. A lot of communists are they

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Speaker 1: use this rhetoric or I'm just one of you when

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Speaker 1: we know they're not.

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Speaker 9: And then Curtis was up.

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Speaker 1: There and he really stuck to the issues, and I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, really talked about quality of life for all

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Speaker 1: all New Yorkers and I thought that was a great job.

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Speaker 1: So excuse me, Aaron Bushnell, I'm being still boneless, is

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Speaker 1: mentioning me? It's Aaron Aaron Bushnell. See, I don't even

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Speaker 1: remember the guy's name, that's how bad it was. When

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Speaker 1: when you're looking at the race, does it make sense

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Speaker 1: then for the New York Post to be calling for

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Speaker 1: Curtis to drop out? Or perhaps should it actually be

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Speaker 1: Cuomo who drops out himself.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, this is something we've gonen into on even our

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Speaker 11: Twitter sphere, and we were talking about this offline before.

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Speaker 3: I got on here. But this is I don't know

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Speaker 3: what to make of this entire situation.

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Speaker 11: I think it's one of those things where if it's

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Speaker 11: a one to one race, I think anyone would really

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Speaker 11: beat Mom Donnie. But the problem is when we're looking

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Speaker 11: at a three way race, Mom Donnie will win, and

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Speaker 11: I think there are a lot of people who on

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Speaker 11: the Democrats side.

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Speaker 3: Actually really do like and support him.

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Speaker 11: Unfortunately, I mean, they elected AOC, so there's some brain

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Speaker 11: dead voters that exists in this population, and many other

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Speaker 11: Jasmine Crockett people voted for her allegedly too, So you know,

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Speaker 11: we see this widespread in the Democrat Party. But I

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Speaker 11: think that Cuomo has no right to be here. He

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Speaker 11: lost in the primary that they had. He lost to

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Speaker 11: Mom Donnie. And also, do we have a short term

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Speaker 11: memory here because I remember twenty twenty. I remember what

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Speaker 11: I saw in New York City in twenty twenty with Cuomo. Okay,

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Speaker 11: what I saw in the entire state of New York

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Speaker 11: with Puomo. He's not this savior, he's not this amazing person.

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Speaker 11: I don't know why we're saying, yeah, okay, maybe he's

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Speaker 11: a little bit better than Mom Donnie, but he's still

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Speaker 11: pretty far left and not someone who I think is

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Speaker 11: a good leader of any state or city.

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Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, then your argument

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Speaker 1: would be, this is very similar to what Curtis has said,

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Speaker 1: that actually it should be Cuomo who drops out, because

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Speaker 1: when you look at it, Cuomo's voters could potentially move

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Speaker 1: over if he's got Maha, if he's got if he's

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Speaker 1: got upper class, if he's got people, you know, people

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Speaker 1: who are working, people are professionals, people who have the

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Speaker 1: ability to actually be successful.

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Speaker 9: In New York.

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Speaker 1: They've got they would potentially move over and vote for Curtis,

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Speaker 1: but instead, you know, he's staying in and he's saying

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Speaker 1: Curtis a drop out. Meanwhile, Curtis's voters, they're not voting

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Speaker 1: for Cuomo because Cuomo was a grandma killer in addition

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Speaker 1: to all the other things, which, by the way, Mom

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Speaker 1: Dami was the one that blew him up on that

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Speaker 1: on stage. Mam Dami was.

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Speaker 9: The one who was hitting Cuomo on this. So you

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Speaker 9: look at a.

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Speaker 1: Guy who's completely again just self immolated, totally bushnelled himself,

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Speaker 1: and I you know what, you've convinced me. You've convinced

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Speaker 1: me no it Quomo is the one who should drop

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Speaker 1: out of the race and endorse Curtis sliwa.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And guess what though, he won't do that.

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Speaker 11: I think he is in this race because he has

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Speaker 11: his ego that he needs to feed.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's exactly why.

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Speaker 11: He went from an a shamed governor to trying to

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Speaker 11: become the mayor of the largest city in this entire country.

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Speaker 11: I mean, this is just someone who does not come

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Speaker 11: across as for the people. I watched that debate live,

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Speaker 11: and as much as I wanted to sit there and

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Speaker 11: say I think Mam Donnie is horrible, I agree with

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Speaker 11: you what you said earlier. He is a great speaker,

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Speaker 11: and Mom Donnie did a wonderful job of trying to

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Speaker 11: be for the people and being convincing and being charismatic

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Speaker 11: and being a great actor on that stage.

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Speaker 3: And Cuomo, in.

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Speaker 11: My opinion, I thought, looked the worst in this debate.

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Speaker 11: I mean, of course, Curtis stuck to his stuff, and

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Speaker 11: I've always loved Curtis for the longest time. Every time

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Speaker 11: he's on any interview or on the news or even

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Speaker 11: speaking somewhere, I make an effort to watch it because

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Speaker 11: I just think Curtis is one of those really fascinating

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Speaker 11: people that I love. And I wish that there was

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Speaker 11: a better path to victory and there isn't someone like

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Speaker 11: Cuomo that's taking away his votes. But unfortunately, this is

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Speaker 11: a situation that we're in, and I think the other

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Speaker 11: thing we have to look at is it's too late now.

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Speaker 11: Why couldn't they've had these conversations earlier. Why couldn't Cuomo

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Speaker 11: have stopped running his ego and just gotten out of

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Speaker 11: the way and realized again he stepped down shamefully from

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Speaker 11: being governor of New York.

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Speaker 3: How do you expect to go back and become the

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Speaker 3: mayor now? It's just an ego drive and that's exactly

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Speaker 3: what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't agree more. We're at a time, Paula Scanlon, where

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Speaker 1: can people follow you?

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Speaker 11: Follow me on ex paul I Scanlon, I don't know.

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Speaker 11: We're doing the New Jersey Race. You probably see a

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Speaker 11: lot of that.

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Speaker 3: If you catch me there.

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Speaker 1: We certainly will. Paula, I need that guy Fong, Ladies

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Speaker 1: and gentlemen. As always, you have my permission to lay

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Speaker 1: shore