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Speaker 1: of like Bob's come in and you know, there's he's

424
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,120
Speaker 1: got some work to do here. It's like that wasn't

425
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,679
Speaker 1: a thing. Well they tried to do like a um,

426
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,920
Speaker 1: Bob learns how to do makeup, but I just didn't

427
00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,879
Speaker 1: get any better. So they had to live stor go.

428
00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 1: But then you couldn't even just be with that, Like

429
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,640
Speaker 1: Bob like couldn't put together an outfit from like raw

430
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 1: materials because like you did purst first on the first

431
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 1: episode and then it's like right, but yeah, but you

432
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,440
Speaker 1: like you like made a look out of curtains and

433
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 1: then like and then you were like, okay, well Bob

434
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,119
Speaker 1: can so. And then Bob is a comedy queen, and

435
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,479
Speaker 1: Bob can you know, do all these different things and uh,

436
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 1: the I mean historic snatch game where you did two

437
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,399
Speaker 1: people like it was just like it was a very

438
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 1: it was a very blazing the trailblazing, trailblazing you. I mean.

439
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 1: It was also one of the thing where I would

440
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 1: go in instead of people like why did they let

441
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 1: you do two snatch games? And I was like, I

442
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:38,120
Speaker 1: didn't ask, just did it. I never asked. Everything wants

443
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 1: they don't like it, they'll probably should stop down production

444
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 1: and helping me to switch back. But in the meantime,

445
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do it. I snugged, I snugged the

446
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,119
Speaker 1: Carol in under my prison uniform. Yeah, no way. As

447
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,159
Speaker 1: long as Ruin is laughing, everything goes like. I have

448
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,120
Speaker 1: talked to some gaze out there that are like because

449
00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,159
Speaker 1: I've I've spoken with some gays, and very few of

450
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 1: them are like I've in speaking with gays. Very few

451
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 1: of them are like, well, I think it should be

452
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 1: one character the whole time. And I'm like, bitch, No,

453
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 1: if you are being funny during snatch game and you're

454
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 1: killing it and you can whip out another like ultr

455
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 1: ego or another performance, you should do that. The whole

456
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 1: thing is like a performance of comedy so well those

457
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 1: days you said that Bob and diraculate is a professional disagrees,

458
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 1: but also the real I would love to do that.

459
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 1: But also the thing is like, girl, I mean the

460
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 1: rumbol always says, the only rule in snatch game is

461
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 1: making me laugh. That's the only rule. Make me laugh.

462
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 1: Just make me laugh. And I was like, well, I

463
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 1: got that. That's that's I can do that for sure. Yeah,

464
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 1: I mean the best, the best. And also I think

465
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 1: people are now kind of annoyed at the idea of

466
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 1: people switching it up, because now people are like now,

467
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 1: now folks are like, oh, someone's trying to do that Bob.

468
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 1: Things kind of like when when after I saw she

469
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 1: did the rose petals and then everyone in Asia does butterflies,

470
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: and everyone's like, now it's too much. And I don't

471
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 1: believe that you should be trying to do stunts. I

472
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 1: think you should really think them through. I'm from New

473
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 1: York City. We pull stunts in New York any all

474
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 1: the time. I used to go to see Georgy at

475
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 1: the Wrist and a party calls Saliva every Tuesday, and

476
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: I and I once saw a girl going forth the

477
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 1: ship and apple out of her ass that was so

478
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 1: if y'all things of butterflies are a stunt, bish come

479
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 1: to New or City, you don't know what a stunts?

480
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 1: Go to this and that on a Wednesday night and

481
00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 1: see what a stunt it comes to the circus R

482
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 1: T N T. I wonder if this is a thing

483
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: that's specific within drag or within the queer community, as

484
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: like the appraisal the appraisers of like any particular right form.

485
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 1: But it's like it goes so quickly from being something

486
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 1: goes so quickly from being like innovative to being like

487
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: a gimmick that I'm just like if if if more

488
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 1: time can be afforded to like watch something be developed

489
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 1: over a longer period of time without people writing it

490
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,959
Speaker 1: off so quickly. Is like, I mean, the Asia thing

491
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 1: was tragic, but I was I was kind of like

492
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 1: thinking the back of my head like oh, but like

493
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 1: I also wish that like if that was successful, that

494
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,000
Speaker 1: would have been kind of great, even though it didn't

495
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,360
Speaker 1: match any of those Janet Jackson songs, but like, yeah,

496
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: it just did. It just did. It wasn't completely well

497
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 1: thought out and maybe if she had like at least

498
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: one hundred butterflies as opposed to like three or four.

499
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: But like, I don't think she realizes how many butterflies

500
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: you would need to actually make an impact. Like I

501
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: was in that dressing room when Sasha but Laura was

502
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: putting those rose pedals in that wig. We were sitting

503
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 1: literally side by side, and she was, what, you don't

504
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,239
Speaker 1: realize this. Actually it's a little behind the scenes te

505
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: So Sasha had different numbers planned. She had completely different numbers.

506
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: She had some scissors in her garter in case she

507
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: got crazy, which the other girls got. So she was

508
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 1: gonna start cutting the wig up and do this whole

509
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 1: crazy number. And then she had the rose petals in

510
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: the wig for how I know? And I think she

511
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: had one other thing was so she had a different

512
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: number plan for both once. So it was that that

513
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 1: was not just her. It wasn't her being like, no

514
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: matter what, I'm doing rose pedals. It was like, I'm

515
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 1: doing rose pedals for specific She came up with a

516
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 1: how would I know number, and then she came up

517
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: with a crazy numb Yeah, she had a fully realized

518
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 1: thing for both the Whitney and Brittany number. So another

519
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: thing that I think people are not really thinking about

520
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: when they say, oh, well, Saga had that stunt that

521
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,719
Speaker 1: was also an amazing lip sync and she was emotionally

522
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 1: keyed right into it. And I think whenever people reduced

523
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: that to a stunt, I'm like, look at that woman

524
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: performing about like she is right on the she is

525
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: emotionally living it, and that like ripping of her wig

526
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: off into the rose pedals, like worked with the lyrics,

527
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 1: worked with the tone of this song like completely. She

528
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: started off with saying does he love me? Does he

529
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 1: love you? Now? You know he loves me? Loves me not?

530
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 1: He loves me? And wouldn't us sit in the song

531
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 1: if he loves me? If he loves me not, then

532
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: there's more roads in the sleeve and in more rooms.

533
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 1: So it actually was a really cleverly uh. It was

534
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: really well done. It was like she always does like

535
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 1: it was. It was a performance piece, like it was

536
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: fully realized. She and trying. She wasn't trying to against anyone.

537
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: She was just doing the number. Yes, yes, speaking of numbers, Um,

538
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: let's talk about we're here, so we I was thinking

539
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: about this today and I what I love about the

540
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 1: show is that, um, it's not you Eureka Changela being

541
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: of service necessarily to people. It's you guys are definitely

542
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 1: I think you're all resources to be sure for everybody,

543
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: for all the charges that um you sort of bring

544
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,760
Speaker 1: in and and look over. But I feel like it's

545
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: a show that's just about like performance, it's just about

546
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: it's it's about expression obviously, but it's it's I like

547
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: that it's a show where you're not like the end

548
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: result is not like a furnished house or like a

549
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: skin difference between this and like where I asked the

550
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 1: last first of all the stuff we're giving them, it's

551
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 1: completely unusable, like what are like, what are you? What

552
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: are you going to do with this fucking costume? Besides

553
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 1: where maybe once a year and that's the first year

554
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 1: is getting kind of old, you know what I mean? Like,

555
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: what the hell are we are you gonna do with this?

556
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: Like you can't use this stuff is completely unusable. But

557
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: we are making these really great connections with people and

558
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: building helping them, build us as a community and amplifying

559
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: the voices, especially when we amplify the voices of marginalized people,

560
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: are like I can't get over Nate and Lady Shug.

561
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if you watched them all yet. But

562
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: if you have not watched My Pet, you watched Farmington's

563
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: Nate and Lady Shug from the Navajo Nation and ship

564
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 1: Rock in New Mexico. Beautiful. That was the Mrs Broder

565
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: Frankenstein thing. Yeah, that was very Yeah, And people don't

566
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: realize that me and Chancel and ere we come up

567
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: with those numbers. There's there's no there's no team that

568
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: that does them. Then we just act like we did it. No,

569
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,959
Speaker 1: we we we we choose the songs, we come up

570
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: with the numbers, We go to the design teams, we

571
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: explain the constant we want, we go to the set builders.

572
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: We talked to her till the way outfit. We want

573
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: what what set we want? And we build each number.

574
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: It's so conceptual. They're so conceptual. Um, and they're and

575
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 1: they're wonderful. But yes, no, I that episode is so

576
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: like I mean, I I kind of have this crazy,

577
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: sort of like emotionless experience as a viewer for most things,

578
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 1: but like they're I mean, I mean you really just

579
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: sort of get choked up. I mean, I just kind

580
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: of put it in context with the fact that there

581
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: are these communities in these parts of the country where

582
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: you would where any coastal elite would think that like, oh,

583
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: you know, like Twin Falls, Idaho is missing something that

584
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: New York has. But it's like, but that's not necessarily true.

585
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: Like there are these there are the people there to

586
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: like build out these communities that would be in place

587
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: anywhere else. Yeah, it's a microcosm of a microcosm. You know.

588
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: What it means of the world is asm of the

589
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: real world. And then you have Twin Falls Adho, which

590
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: is a microcosm of like a New York City drags

591
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: and it's like a smaller version of it. And I

592
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: think that it really feels great to be a part

593
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: of something that feels really impact. We're not we don't

594
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: we're not we're not mentors, we're not uh counselors. Were

595
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: just people having connections with the people. And that sound

596
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: a little b cheap. People watched the show, you realize

597
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: it really is what it is not a makeover show.

598
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: We're not giving them anything that is actually usable. It's

599
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: just us using this as a distraction to amplify the

600
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 1: voices of trans people, queer people, black people, Asian people,

601
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: indigenous people. I wanted to ask just because It's been

602
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: a long time since I ventured out of l A

603
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: just because of the quarantine, and these past a few days,

604
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: I've been on Long Island, which is obviously part of

605
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: New York State, and so people think blue state and

606
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: they kind of think, oh, it must be sort of

607
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: liberal leaning. But on Long Island it is like I

608
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: was taking a walk the other day and every other

609
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: house there was a huge Trump flag. It's really crazy,

610
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: and I kind of felt like I was in the

611
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: twilight Zone walking down the street because I'm like, what

612
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: are people seeing that I'm not that they could possibly

613
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: be in support of this ideology and this um administration.

614
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: What does it feel like, UM, to be you and

615
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: go into these places. I know you've traveled a lot

616
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: because of RuPaul's drag racing, because you're a successful drag artist,

617
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: But is there a sense of like self consciousness or

618
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: fear that you get going into towns like this and

619
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: having the responsibility of being that person who's going to

620
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: like help this person change their ideology. What does it

621
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: feel like going and doing the show? Well, I mean,

622
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,959
Speaker 1: I'm from a red state, UM, so I'm not from

623
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 1: New York City. I wasn't raised in New York City

624
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: or anything I was. I was born in Georgia. I

625
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: was raised in Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi. UM, so I'm not

626
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: a complete stranger to being a liberal in a red area. Um.

627
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: And even my theater program when I was in college

628
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: was like this, like weird Republican theater theater pro Republican

629
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: theater program, Republican theatergra Look. I remember being in the

630
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: green room in my college, like it's like it's like

631
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: about theater lounge at my college and like arguing about

632
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: like George Bush versus like I can't remember who it

633
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: was at the time, maybe John Carry yeah, um, and

634
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: and being like yeah, al grand laws one before it

635
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: was John Carry yeah, and just kind of like arguing

636
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: with this guy was like much older than I was

637
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: and way more articulate than I was, and really ruined,

638
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: like pummeling me that he was like a grad student

639
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: and I was like eighteen, Like yeah, but he's that

640
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: thanking and that that kind of thing. Um. But I

641
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: also realized too, when you live at these people, because

642
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 1: I've been really obsessed. I've been in girl these YouTube

643
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: like k holes, like you just watch YouTube, Well it's

644
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: it started. It actually all started with talk to You

645
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: Westbrother so many times. And now there is this YouTube

646
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: genre that it's just YouTubers doing videos about other YouTube

647
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: and there are these YouTubers who do documentaries about YouTubers.

648
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: It it's in. I mean, like, there's this YouTube naim

649
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: and watch everything like I'm obsessed. Anyway, then I started

650
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: getting into this whole Trump or YouTube thing, and I

651
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: realized that all those folks are they what they are

652
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: doing is they're operating from fear. I don't think that

653
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: the goal they have is completely different than the goals

654
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: I have, but the they're operating out of a place

655
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: of fear. They feel like they're losing something, and quite frankly,

656
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: in order for all of the people in America have

657
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: more equality, the people at the top have to start

658
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: losing power. The people up here have to get rid

659
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: of something. For the people down here you have something

660
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: because power is finite. That didn't power is an infinite noe,

661
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: bitch is not. There's an infinite number of jobs, there's

662
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: an infinite number of money, there's an infinite number of food,

663
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: there's an infinite number of houses. So for the people

664
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: at the bottom to have more, the people at the

665
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: top half to start giving up more and they realize

666
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: that and it's scary. But then also the people who

667
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: are down at the bottom were being used, and they think,

668
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: these smoking, poor white people in Alabama, don't they realize

669
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 1: Trump is not for you. Married Trump just signed an

670
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: executive order to to like demolish social Security. Now you

671
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,959
Speaker 1: are in your you're sixty four, You're about to hit

672
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: the fucking limit, and they think, you know, you want

673
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: to have some security because you voted yourself out. And

674
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: then I realized that Trump's not not actually acting in

675
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: their interests as much as they think. And then I mean,

676
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to do a whole but positive now

677
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: we're happy to talk about it. It's just it's just

678
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: crazy to me because it's exactly what we're saying, Like

679
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: I'll say on this podcast because I know because some

680
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: of my cous listened to and I will take this risk.

681
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: I have two ants and one of them is high

682
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: income and one of them is lower income, middle class

683
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: to lower income, and they both support Trump. Do you

684
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Speaker 1: think that the one who's low income thinks she might

685
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: be the one who's high income, but she doesn't know

686
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: how much your other art makes she like, wait, so

687
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: it so makes more than me. I think it's more

688
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: cultural than that. I think I think once it gets obviously,

689
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: once it gets to the middle lower income, it must

690
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: be a cultural thing or like a spiritual thing or

691
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: a religious thing, because what else could it be, Because

692
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: you're literally voting in your her own malinterest. Because what

693
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: happens is Trump what he does is he panders to

694
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: other fears they have. For example, Trump will get up there,

695
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: Trump will talk about like, let's say, the liberals will

696
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: say something like, we just want to make sure that

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00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 1: everyone gets healthcare, and then Trump will get on the

698
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: platform and say something like, We're not gonna be having

699
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 1: you pay for other people health care. And as a reminder,

700
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: I believe strongly in the second Amendment. Right, whoa whoa right? Right?

701
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 1: What do you like? Throw those little things in there? Yeah,

702
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: we're talking about healthcare, who's talking about who's talking about guns? Sure? Sure? Well,

703
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: because because there was some like Leach memo where they

704
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: were considering using just because the poll poll numbers or

705
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: something for Trump that the team that the campaign team

706
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: was considering using quote unquote transgender sort of this is

707
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: the new talking point as just as a wedgiess ship,

708
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: which is like, okay, so this is this is the

709
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: game and all, this is the playbook and all. So

710
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: before I forget, but yeah, your whole social Security example,

711
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, well, Mary also turns out that she

712
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: is in favor of social Security and so that's like

713
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: a natural literal like social program and so like it's

714
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: like it's like you're it's like no one knows what

715
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: their interests are and people think that, like when people

716
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: don't realize they think that this like this social Security

717
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,959
Speaker 1: is like some random government money. No, that is money

718
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: you paid for. You're supposed to get it back. And

719
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: Trump is trying to just take it and to be

720
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna keep We're gonna keep it and use

721
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: it for something else then you didn't approve to do,

722
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: but now we're gonna. But now we're gonna switch at

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00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: the very last minute. So when you're able to do

724
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: stuff like ignite, uh, like if these people think that

725
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: Trump genuinely has any truck, doesn't give a funk Trump

726
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: Trump probably doesn't hate trans people, but he knows that

727
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: he can say something about them and then get his

728
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: base fired up, and then he can use that fodder

729
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: to then go ahead and make it seem like then

730
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: get them all riled up so they don't know that

731
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: he's trying to do the Social Security or he'll he'll

732
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: get up there and he'll say something that to a

733
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 1: complete distract Trump's Trump's values are clearly not Christian. Then

734
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: he runs on this like I'm super Christian. He says

735
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: stuff like, no one loves the Bible more than me.

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Speaker 1: He said those words with his arm. He said, no

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Speaker 1: one knows more about building walls than I do. If

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Speaker 1: that's true, let's put you in a fucking fill with

739
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: brick and more than watch you build the walls, as

740
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: you know so much about it. Also, your wall is failing.

741
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: A big chunk of your wall fell over because of

742
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: strong wind. I couldn't believe that. So how great are

743
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: your walls? Donald? They're not the metaphor was wild. They're

744
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 1: not kind of crete. Parts of them are just bars.

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00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Naomi small because Naomi smalls

746
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: can slip through the cracks of someone that's sucking walls.

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00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: Naomi walls could bend over backwards. Now we know and

748
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: wall exactly the bad bending of it all. That was

749
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: a new trick exactly. So I'm like, girl, don't even

750
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 1: like it. But it is a when when you payander

751
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 1: to people. But all so, I don't want for even

752
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: one second to people believe that the left are the

753
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: only people pandering. I think they certainly nailed it and

754
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: they've gotten better at it, and there are people are

755
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: much more receptive to it. But over on the on

756
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: the right, they'd be pander into Hillary Clinton. We're talking

757
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: about hot sauce in her bag, and Joe Biden was

758
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 1: talking about it if you if I ain't black, both

759
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: of me, you ain't black, And I'm like, no, no,

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00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's it's all a mess, and we're

761
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: dealing with decades of mess, and I feel like it's

762
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: a very recent awareness that that a lot of people

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00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: have about how fucked up it is. And I think we're,

764
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: like I said to my dad the other day, I

765
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: was like, you know, it's a we're trying to talk

766
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: about what could possibly be any of the positives out

767
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: of the situation. And I know, for me, I there

768
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: will never be another mid term. I will ever skip

769
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: local election. I will ever skip And I do think

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00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: there is like a such a greater awareness of you know,

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00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: what our responsibility and our rights are as American citizens,

772
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: so at least that, but you know, it's so thinks

773
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: so much too about um, I don't know. This whole

774
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: election is gonna really robbly well up in a way.

775
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: It's really odd. Like I'm not really here to like

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00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: shame anyone for their smarts or anything, but I am.

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00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: But I do think I'm allowed to say whether that

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00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: someone is qualified for their job or not. I mean,

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00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: based on my little experience of just being an American.

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00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: But like when the president goes into it really is

781
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: embarrassing when the President says stuff like well, we're we

782
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: have Like when when he's on the Axios interview and

783
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,359
Speaker 1: he's he says, we have less cases of corona than

784
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: the world. I know if you all heard him say that.

785
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: He goes, we have less cases in the world, and

786
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, because we're included in the world's corona count.

787
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: When he goes, when the interviewer goes, we have the

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Speaker 1: most cases by percentage like based on our population. Goes, No,

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Speaker 1: not that, don't do that, and he won't go back

790
00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: and say stuff like you know what, guys, everyone freeze,

791
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: I said, this was no more danger than the flu.

792
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: I need to take that back. That is absolutely completely false.

793
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: I misspoke that. It's not true. This isn't killed almost

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00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: almost two people just in America alone. We have almost

795
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: five million cases in this country. Roll it back. It

796
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: is more dangerous considering that this is the this disease,

797
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: this sickness has killed more people, more Americans in the

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00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: Vietnam War, I would say it is dangerous. Yeah, let's

799
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 1: take up No, no, no, yeah, I think we'll just

800
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 1: take a quick break. And then, you know, I think

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00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna take a quick break. Okay, and

802
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: only because the queen said so, well, we're right back, okay,

803
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: so we in fact our back and at this point, uh,

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00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: Bob the drag queen, we would like to ask you

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00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: the question that we ask all of our guests, each

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00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: and every single one, and Bowen, what exactly is that

807
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: because I forgot Oh no, Matt, you shouldn't forget, Bob.

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00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 1: What is the question is what is the culture that

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00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 1: made you say culturists? For me, this is a formative

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00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: piece of pop culture, could be a movie, a book,

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Speaker 1: a person, an area, like anything at all. And and

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00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 1: you didn't forget that. I happen to choose one. No,

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00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 1: it can mean you know what, it can be whatever

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Speaker 1: you want because we're let's let's talk. Well. I had

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00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: a few moments for me. A big moment for me

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00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: growing up was, um, like just the culture surrounding Whoopie

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00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:41,760
Speaker 1: Goldberg direct, hearing her in Lion King, watching her ghost

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00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: Karina Karina long walk Home. I like seeing someone on

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00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: TV who looked like me, we didn't have eyebrows like me,

820
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: who was dark skinned like me, being told that she

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00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: was amazing, being awarded practically every ward you can get

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00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: an entertainment and I mean unless you, I would not

823
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Speaker 1: get a Soul Train award or something, so she'll have

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Speaker 1: them all. Um, were you familiar with her One Woman show?

825
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 1: Do you think I just turned black and gay us today?

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00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: But I mean like as but I mean like as

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00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 1: a young Jesus Chris yet, I mean it's like it's

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00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 1: like a child. No. But in my in my college years, yeah, yeah,

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00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: for sure, it was like the VHS vaults of the

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00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: college and all that stuff. And of course once YouTube,

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00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: when YouTube came out when I was in college, Um,

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00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: I would get ahold of from over there. But like

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00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: I just so like Lion King of Sister Act Sister

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Speaker 1: Act two, Corina Ghost Long Walk Home, all that stuff,

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00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: all that whoopee content. I'm a huge like I just

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00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 1: love Whoopie Goberg a lot um and also full full

837
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: A genuine culture reset was RuPaul's Drag Race. Watching the

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00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: season one of RuPaul's Drag Race, I saw someone on

839
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: TV who I thought looked like me. It was Bbs Harbonnet.

840
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: And everything that I thought was bad about me, black, faggotty, gay,

841
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: fim like I felt, ugly, nappy hair, everything that I

842
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: was told made me bad. I saw this person on

843
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: TV being told that those were all the things that

844
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: actually made her really fat. Was that was being told

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00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: that not not she wasn't great despite those things. She

846
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: was great because of those things. And it's it's something

847
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: that happened on We're here, Amelia. I think all the time.

848
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: She said everything about me has been used against me

849
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: at one point in my life, and that really stuck

850
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 1: with me that I cannot forget those words. Everything about

851
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: me has been used against me at one point in

852
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: my life. And I was like, I relate to that.

853
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: But then she found this community of drag where they

854
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 1: don't call her some fat dude, They say, go big girl.

855
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like everything that, like the

856
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: fact that her baldhead became a symbol of beauty for

857
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: her drag. You find a community that uplifts all the

858
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: things that you were told made you garbage and you

859
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: find out that it actually makes you gold. Yes, yeah, amazing.

860
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: And what what was it like when you first met BB?

861
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: We've met BB and it was everything we could ever

862
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: Oh and the first time I mean meeting BB is

863
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: a combination of magical, remarkable, and exhausting. Yeah. For those

864
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: of you who don't. Who don't aren't familiar with BBS Harbona,

865
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: but maybe you are a later Dragon's Watcher. BBS Abone

866
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 1: was Valentina before Valentine was Valentine. Someone who really feels

867
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: the fantasy, like she made her own rules about existence.

868
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: She everything she's saying it is real to her. She

869
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: is an African queen. She is like she's wild, She's

870
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: that in her ross singing a circle of life. That's

871
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: who by is. I used to so addresses for her.

872
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:53,399
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, you did addresses and I would get something.

873
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: Ever ever told this, But I'm telling who cares I

874
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: was st of these dresses and I was like a

875
00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: gown and I would go. I never saw anyone besides

876
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: her best Her roommate was my best friend at the time,

877
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: so I saw in her dresses, but just because we

878
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: were friends, like, I'll show you dress, I love you.

879
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: I saw a bb AD dress and I was like,

880
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what to charge for this. She was

881
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: she's so cheap. People was like, hey, baby, listen, I

882
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: will do all of the embroider be myself. I'll do

883
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: all of the storing. Um. I will give you. Yeah,

884
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: he's at old dress fifty dollars. And granted it was

885
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: the dress probably was not great. It was probably not

886
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: a brilliant dress. But I made it. And I was

887
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: like in my twenties. And she didn't say I think

888
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: she did dog where she took that dress and she

889
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 1: called it a shell. She was like, you make the shell,

890
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: and then I she was shut up, like bitch, I

891
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: made you made. But but but she is one of

892
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: the people that really inspires me and I just I

893
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: love her a lot. I really think she's truly epic,

894
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: and I go, I am so happy. I mean, when

895
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: when we discovered bb well, I mean we we would

896
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 1: have rediscovered her along with a lot of other people,

897
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: I think during All Stars three, and then it was

898
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: just this thing of like, oh, right, like she she

899
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: has she has sort of been crystallized in amber this

900
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: whole time since season one and has basically been unchanged.

901
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 1: And then like we just fell down this hole of

902
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: just watching every single one of her music videos are amazing.

903
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: The Cameroon video is I mean to to to to

904
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: recall this comparison. It is Diana Ross singing the Circle

905
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: of Life. It is like pure beautiful, like her like

906
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: dancing in some park in Minneapolis with like all these

907
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: other people and then just her like truly like making

908
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: love to the camera and like she's a star. She's

909
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: a goddamn star. So the dress, the dresses video, face

910
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: face yeah, I made like that two or three, made

911
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: two or three of the dresses video. That's good. That's

912
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 1: a video. The legend that the the tradition of making

913
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: a rubro videos BBS harmon. It was the first rude

914
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: girl to make a video. And the song was class

915
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: I'm the One, Yeah, I'm the Ship. And then there's

916
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 1: I'm fun Tonight, which is great. Yeah there is no

917
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: but there is no. I mean talk about like all

918
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: these girls come out with their videos and I mean

919
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: we love purse first. That's up there. For me, there

920
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: is nothing like jungle Jungle kidding. Jungle is a narrative.

921
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: It's uh powerful sort of presence and acting. And like,

922
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: so who sent you in the beginning, who's the interaction

923
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 1: between her and now? Yeah, yeah, it's it's right behind

924
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: the eyes. It is she she butts them in the

925
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: face with the with the with the blood end of

926
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: a baseball pack. This is this is not me like

927
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 1: to on horn, But I'm gonna say this if you

928
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: have not in this is a video of mine that

929
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: is lesser known. Not a lot of people know about this.

930
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,399
Speaker 1: I would encourage you all to watch my video yet

931
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: another dig. This is one of another day achievements. This

932
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: is one of my honestly, actually I want you I

933
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: want you to watch it and then talk to me

934
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 1: about I will wait the three minutes after the podcast.

935
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: I'm really proud of It's all. Watch it. It's about

936
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: two or three years old, this wee, but I'm still

937
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 1: very proud of that video. Also, I mean, one of

938
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: my favorite tracks that you're on is Toddrick Wrong bit.

939
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: I love wrong bitch, and I love all of Toddrick's stuff,

940
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 1: And I feel like Toddrick does not get the amount

941
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: of attention that he deserves for what exactly goes on

942
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 1: in his brain and is Todrick is amazing. Todricks next level.

943
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: Toddrick is insane, like I've never seen, to be honest

944
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: at all, I've never met anyone who works as hard

945
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: as to call. I can almost guarantee you even beyond

946
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't work as hard as I can almost promise

947
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: you want a claim. I mean, creatively, he executes so much.

948
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: I mean he's choreographing for the girls, He's chorographing for

949
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: the Rual girls. He's doing his own cho cho no. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

950
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying like he's really the girls. Yeah he did.

951
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: Uh it must be good to you? Was that one?

952
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: Good to that video? Wow? Yeah? That really feels like

953
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: him actually now that you say that, because I know

954
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: he's I know he's um in the Taylor universe. Yeah,

955
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: he works with Taylor as well. I I agree that

956
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: drag Race was this cultural rista and yeah for sure,

957
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: and and I feel like, well, season seven, but then

958
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: season eight was scooted the first season where you had

959
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 1: people um vocally be like I did drag after the

960
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 1: show started, Like, I like, this was a new generation,

961
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: a new turnover of people. And I said to the camera,

962
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: I started doing drag because of the show. Yeah, um,

963
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: and that was that was huge for me. I was

964
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: not a drag queen before post Drag Race. I had

965
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: done Dragon maybe once or surprise in college theater stuff,

966
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,479
Speaker 1: but never like in the in the clars like yeah, yeah.

967
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: But it was seeing BB that made you feel like

968
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: this could be something much for me. Yeah. It was BB.

969
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: I remembering I had Tebow. That's how long ago it was.

970
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: I was scrolling through Tebow and I was going through

971
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,439
Speaker 1: I went to the Gate Chann. I just scrolled through

972
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: the Gate channel and I saw Roup had was the

973
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 1: show record And then I watched that. I got in

974
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: from work and I was like, oh my god, this

975
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: show is amazing. So I've watched every episode of Drag

976
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: Race in real time. Yeah, for sure. Were you doing

977
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: stand up before that or were you kind of just

978
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: doing that? So I was writing stand up but I

979
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: had never actually I was too afraid to get on

980
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: stage and do it. And then I decided to try

981
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: my hand and stand up On the same night I

982
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: tried my handed drags. I did my my first knight

983
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 1: of stand up was also my first drag performance ever

984
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: at the New or Comedy Club. I see, what does

985
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 1: it feel like to sort of have like the industry

986
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 1: quote unquote take drag queens seriously as comedians because we

987
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: actually had We had Jinks in Alaska on one of

988
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: our shows, and I had a conversation with the drinks afterwards,

989
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: and she was like, you know, every time we kind

990
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: of come to one of these things, like it always

991
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: feels like, um, they always treat us like the drag

992
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 1: queens and they don't treat us like actual talent. Do

993
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: you feel like there's been like a shift in the

994
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 1: past few years about how you get treated as like

995
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: just an artist and a comedian and a performer. Yeah,

996
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: well for me, I mean I know that I've started,

997
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 1: um really shifting. How like the gigs I'll do, for example,

998
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: like here's the guy I got called by, Uh, I

999
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: got called by what's what's his name? Andy Cohen? Do

1000
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: if you know he has all the dragons to show

1001
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: up and they act like the celebrities. Yeah, the watch

1002
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: it happens live yeah, yeah, watch Happens Live and I

1003
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: did one for Ends with Asset and then they called

1004
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: me after I want drag Race and I was kind

1005
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: of like, you're not gonna go step behind the bar. Now,

1006
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: I remember thinking myself, but I'm one of the celebrities,

1007
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: because when I thought to myself, I was like, but

1008
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: I should be I should be in the chair, especially

1009
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 1: on a show with a gay audience, like we'd be

1010
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 1: more excited to see you than fucking someone on fucking

1011
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: CBS as elementary. So I told SO. I told him

1012
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 1: that I wasn't gonna I wasn't gonna come back and

1013
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: do it. And I said, I don't know what I'll

1014
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: ever come back into the shows that I'm sitting in

1015
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 1: the chair. And of course they have called me a

1016
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: few times, do you want to come in personate? Uh so?

1017
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 1: And so I'm like, no, I really don't. I genuinely

1018
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:20,919
Speaker 1: don't have any of you. Now you have, I feel

1019
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: like you have very successfully sort of kind of branched out,

1020
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 1: branched out quote unquote, but like you doing like Angels

1021
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: in San Francisco was like like a thing that like

1022
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 1: people took notice that I feel And yeah, so what

1023
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 1: happened was Tony Kushner. And if you don't know Tony

1024
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: kush Tony Kushner is the Pulitzer winning anyone winning. I mean,

1025
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 1: he's one. He's huge. He's wrote Asian America Abraham, I

1026
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,720
Speaker 1: mean Lincoln recover A wrote, he wrote Asian America wrote Lincoln.

1027
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: He wrote Carolina change Um. He's a really big deal. Anyway,

1028
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: he was he's a band of drag Race, and he

1029
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: watched drag Race and at some point he was like,

1030
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: Bob seemed like he'd be a good actor. So he

1031
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: literally just went to my website Tony Kushner. Tony Kushner

1032
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 1: was I was like, hey be in my show will

1033
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: you Be Believes? Which is like it's an incredible role,

1034
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 1: thank you. It was really Whenever you asked me who

1035
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: did I play? I always I always say the black person.

1036
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: I was like, gay person is like, who did you play? Well,

1037
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: only it's only weird when they go I actually really

1038
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 1: love Angian. I'm really familiar with angels. Who did you

1039
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 1: play in them? Like the only black person in the show?

1040
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: Off your Yeah, I was Harpard, Like who do you

1041
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: think I was? But it was really great. I was

1042
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: also there I mean with some really great actors, with

1043
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: Randy Harrison form uh, Steven Steven Spanella, who's the original

1044
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: prior to it was great really and I was there

1045
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: for six months. Yeah, yeah, I was gonna I was

1046
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: gonna ask how long it was. I'm actually doing My

1047
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: friends and I in Quarantine are doing a reading of

1048
00:52:56,360 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: it on zoom and who are you? Who are you? Prior?

1049
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: Of course? Wow, but I'm Berry Steven Spielberg. You know

1050
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: that scene, right Bowen, you know the play? Yeah, but

1051
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 1: it's like one of the last scenes in the first half.

1052
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:20,760
Speaker 1: But it's Uh, it's interesting because I hadn't actually realized

1053
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,439
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen it because I didn't see the recent

1054
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: Broadway version with Andrew Garfield. Um, and I hadn't seen

1055
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: it since I had watched the mini series. I have

1056
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: not read Angels in so longer. Well to your friend,

1057
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: um Millennium approaches Believe is only in like three or

1058
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 1: four scenes, Um include miss Allied as well and then

1059
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: missing in Paris. She is And I think like a

1060
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 1: ton seventeen or nineteen, it's back to back to back

1061
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: with with with real, real, real, real good scenes too.

1062
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's so funny because Like I said, it

1063
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: has been so long since I've seen it because I

1064
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 1: was younger when I watched the mini series with Um

1065
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: but Metal Streep, Um, Patrick Wilson, etcetera. Um and Jeffrey

1066
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,399
Speaker 1: Wright played the Belize role. Um. But it's been such

1067
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: a long time and now as like a gay adult,

1068
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: it's so much more. It really just hits. It's just

1069
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: such a piece of art. Invite I would like to

1070
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: go listen if if I'm free, Oh my god, I

1071
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 1: mean we would be thrilled all seven hours. Truly, it's

1072
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: just like act by act but um but yeah, it's

1073
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: it's amazing and I it's interesting. No, no, no, no,

1074
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: it's every Tuesday we read a different we read um

1075
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: uh like act. Yeah, it's so fascinating to read it

1076
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 1: and realize how how oppressions it is. Like, it's really interesting,

1077
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 1: especially in a pandemic to be and not to compare

1078
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 1: it to what AIDS was, but it's interesting to hear

1079
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: like the paranoia about illness and the uncertainty, and also

1080
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 1: to be um written that takes place during a time

1081
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: where the government didn't have our best interests in mind.

1082
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: It's just really it's really a timeless piece Unfortunately, before

1083
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: you do Boys in the Band do augustin Age County,

1084
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: and then after Boys in the Band the inheritance. But

1085
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: hopefully we're not doing this. I know. But do you

1086
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 1: guys remember back we thought quarantine was going to be

1087
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,399
Speaker 1: a month. It was so funny. Yeah, when they said

1088
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 1: we'd have to do this for a couple of weeks,

1089
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 1: I thought I was going back to work and everything. Well,

1090
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: this is the other thing. Remember when Trump was saying,

1091
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 1: like the first week of quarantine, this will be over

1092
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 1: by July or August, And now that it's July or August,

1093
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, l oh l, what a time to Well,

1094
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: they thought that the heat would kill the virus. Yeah,

1095
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: that's what they said. They were. They were like, of

1096
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 1: course in the summer months, the virus won't survive. We

1097
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 1: know this. And it's like, do we know it's not

1098
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: that hot? Jesus Christ, I don't even aside. I dropped

1099
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: out of theater school and I know that what what

1100
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 1: are you doing? And we how are you quarantining? There?

1101
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: Have you been there for a while? Girl? This is

1102
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:02,879
Speaker 1: a long story. I can't here to look for a house.

1103
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: I'm going about a house in l A. But then

1104
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: I can't look for a house. But already both the

1105
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: tickets with my boyfriend had a surgery, so I'm here

1106
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: to like look look after him and say hey da

1107
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: him and all that thing. Okay, well so you're thinking

1108
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 1: about relocating though, Yeah, it's good. It means the move yeah,

1109
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 1: you know. But when I want to quickly talk about

1110
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: how remarkable, um and great that coal miners scene you

1111
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 1: do what RuPaul was? Oh? Thanks, We were just talking

1112
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 1: about that before, how it wasn't in the real show

1113
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 1: it was. It was a thing they put online and

1114
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: their hands on it was so great. It was really

1115
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: really good. I was. I was talking about how one

1116
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: of my worst moments at the show was when that

1117
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: sketch got It wasn't cut for time at first. It

1118
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,439
Speaker 1: was moved to later on in the show, like after

1119
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: the second time the musical, after the second time Justin

1120
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: Bieber went on, so it was like, it's definitely getting

1121
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: cut for time, it's definitely getting tough for time. It did,

1122
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: and then I justin these songs one, no, no, no,

1123
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: no no. So literally, when Justin Bieber was on stage,

1124
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: I can tell the story when Justin Bieber was on

1125
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,760
Speaker 1: stage the second time and I was like, the odds

1126
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: of this coming to term are not good. So I

1127
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: went out to see Justin Bieber's number, and then I

1128
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 1: sidled up next to Lauren because Laurence sits stands on

1129
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: the floor whenever the musical guest goes up, and I

1130
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: went up to him and whispered to him, can we

1131
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: please put the dress rehearsal version online? And then he goes, yeah,

1132
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: we can. Because I was like, because I had explained

1133
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: to like, because I was like, because he knew that, like,

1134
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: this was such an important show for me that like,

1135
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: I'm not going to feel this way about any other host.

1136
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: Like it's rue, you know, and like as much of

1137
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 1: like a you know, a little like Rorschach test Rue

1138
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: is for a lot of queer people. Now, it's like

1139
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: it's it's still rue, Paul, Like it's still you know,

1140
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: you don't need to explain to me life in a

1141
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: lot of ways. And I don't expect anyone to be perfect,

1142
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 1: so I don't need any explanation of why is important

1143
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: me of all people? Sure, sure, but it's like and

1144
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: we can all like is like I thought you like

1145
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: settled up? I thought you like, I'm surprised you didn't

1146
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: since Nancy caring to think out just the sneak out

1147
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 1: to buy more time for your Yeah, who knows, I

1148
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: don't think, Oh, thank you. It was like, you know,

1149
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: like I I was proud of a lot of the

1150
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: like sort of queer leaning stuff that I've gotten on

1151
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: the show in the past, and I was like, well,

1152
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 1: this is it's rude. Like I gotta, like, you know,

1153
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: try to like throw in something fun and like but

1154
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: also like classic, and so you know, we just basically

1155
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: wrote like a Dynasty scene taking place. It was very Yeah,

1156
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: it was. It was obviously burned in the bottle at

1157
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 1: some point. It was very burned to the bottle at

1158
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: something dying burned in the bottle, dying name burned, burned

1159
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: in a bottle bottle. Wait, you know I thought of

1160
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,919
Speaker 1: I thought of one before. Has anyone done this head

1161
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: of topper headed top like miss head a hopper? No one?

1162
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: I think no one's done it because it's bad. I

1163
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: think because it's a really bad drag. Honestly, I said it,

1164
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is a C plus attempt.

1165
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: You lose your enthusiasm as you're saying this head of topper. Um,

1166
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: I'm a really big fan of Are you familiar with

1167
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: Mommy DearS at all? Like yes, yes, I just want

1168
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: I just watched it recently, like gay familiar, not just

1169
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: a little familiar with familiar. What do you bring up?

1170
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: What's the reference? A great drag name will be Barbara,

1171
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:40,040
Speaker 1: please please, and there's some please Barbara, please please, Barbara,

1172
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 1: please Barbara. You needed to ask Caroline God, I need please?

1173
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 1: Isn't that a great name? Walking the stage? Barbara? Please

1174
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: please please Barbara. Something about the apps too? If you

1175
00:59:54,840 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: need anything? This is wonderful. This isn't what you you

1176
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: delifferently and empressed me in front of the reporters us

1177
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: you love to make me hit you. It's so good, truly.

1178
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 1: When Ruke came like there was there was like a

1179
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: like twenty minutes where it was me Rue, James Anderson,

1180
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 1: another gay writer at the show and we're just quoting

1181
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 1: Mommy Dearest and just but like the second that like

1182
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 1: ru felt comfortable with us, I could tell was when

1183
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: um uh was when I said I'm not mad at you,

1184
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: I'm mad at the dirt and like them like it

1185
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: all like fell away and we were we were like

1186
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 1: on good terms and it was it was all good

1187
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: from there. It's like we had a party and one

1188
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: guy's like, I'm just gonna do one bump of coats

1189
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: or everyone knows it's cool. Yeah, I was gonna do it.

1190
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do it in the middle of the room.

1191
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 1: So everyone here, we're just starting into the atmosphere and

1192
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: we're off, and then we're off. You gotta test the gay.

1193
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:00,040
Speaker 1: You gotta know which quote to do. You can in

1194
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 1: that quote in some rooms they don't get nothing. But

1195
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 1: then you're looking at someone and go, oh, so you agree,

1196
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 1: you think you're yeah, yeah, I mean it's a generational

1197
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: divide for sure. But then our friend's studie Green has

1198
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 1: a really good one. I think a really good drag name,

1199
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 1: which which is old tweets, but I think old for anything,

1200
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 1: old before anything is a good drag name. Oh here

1201
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: comes old tweets Old. A good drag king name is

1202
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 1: a Lincoln bio or or or deleted tweet is horrible

1203
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 1: things when whenever anyone refers to um, whenever there's an

1204
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: article that's like in a tweet that has since been deleted,

1205
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: I just love that sentence that intro like in a

1206
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 1: tweet that since been deleted. Well, I'm always in treatment

1207
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 1: the fact that in these news articles are always just

1208
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: they actually U r L copy the link instead of

1209
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 1: screen grabby, like mama problematic, it's gonna thinking away screen

1210
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 1: grab that mug mom. Always that break and grab that

1211
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 1: mug mom. Real culture. Um, Bob, I just want to

1212
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 1: I did want to say thank you for giving us

1213
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: our fucking favorite episode of Game Show Too. You came

1214
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 1: out and played that so sweet. I think you had

1215
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 1: a lot of fun that day. It was weird we

1216
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 1: had and Darcy reached out to me on the internet

1217
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, she's the best ever. Yeah,

1218
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: she's really sweet, She's the best ever, wonderful. Um, alright,

1219
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 1: so what do you say? Bone? Is it time I think? Well,

1220
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: before I do that, I can't leave. I know I've

1221
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 1: said it before air, but I want everyone to know

1222
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: that I also appreciate Mad Roger because I was talking

1223
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: mad about his hit song be a Bit Too to

1224
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 1: Friend this Pride available on Instagram and YouTube at some

1225
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 1: point because that was like something Bone and I were

1226
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: doing for fun whatever, And then once Drinksman soon liked it,

1227
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, maybe this take has legs And

1228
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: I still have a standing offer from her to go

1229
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 1: into the studio and do a recording of it, and

1230
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 1: she said she would jump on the track, And I'm saying, now, Bob,

1231
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 1: the jack creen also needs to be on the track. Listen,

1232
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 1: you want some cabaret jazz version, No, you, We're gonna

1233
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 1: do a bitch track called be a Bit to your

1234
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: Closest Friends Pride. Honestly, I'm doubt And also, you know,

1235
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 1: Jinks contacted me and she was like, I'd like to

1236
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 1: do the song in my show, and I was like, please,

1237
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 1: please do it. She's probably performed it more than I

1238
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 1: have at this point. Listen, I'm gonna right now, man,

1239
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta trade numbers. We're gonna, We're gonna

1240
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 1: get being based to your closest friends trending. You're seeing

1241
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 1: the beginnings of a collab. I'm into it, all right,

1242
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 1: Let's do I don't Think so, honey. So this is

1243
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: our finale of every episode of Lost Culture, which is

1244
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 1: I don't Think so honey. We take sixty seconds to

1245
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 1: rail against something in pop culture that, let me tell

1246
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: you something we hate. Sorry to say the word hate,

1247
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 1: but this is worth saying it. We don't I get it?

1248
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 1: Needs to be dressed down bo when I do have

1249
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 1: something I could do, Okay, that's good. Um, I've got

1250
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 1: you on the clock that is patent Rodgers. I don't

1251
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 1: think so, honey. As time starts now, I don't think

1252
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 1: so honey, bugs you have to go. I understand that

1253
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 1: we need some of you for the environment, but Sugar,

1254
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 1: we are already going down, absolutely so winging in that area.

1255
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 1: So we're actually gonna let go of bugs. I have

1256
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: to say, I don't think so, honey. Bugs. You're itchy,

1257
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 1: you're crawley, you're looky, you're bookie, you are not it.

1258
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 1: Can I say something? You're too small, and if you're big,

1259
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 1: fuck you even more. Fuck bugs of all curs, and

1260
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:43,920
Speaker 1: fuck the stinging that bugs do. I'm out here on

1261
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Speaker 1: Long Island. I'm dealing with the humidity. The bugs are

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Speaker 1: out here. They're not here to play. They're here to bite,

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Speaker 1: there here to suck, there here to fuck. Unfortunately, I'm

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Speaker 1: sorry to say. Here's what i'd say, bugs. I like

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Speaker 1: no media about you, not even Ants, which has j Lo,

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Speaker 1: which I usually love all her ship. J Lo was

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01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: not even giving you ten percent in the movie. And

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Speaker 1: I don't want to watch a bug's life. I'd rather

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Speaker 1: get thrown into uh lava pit. No bugs, I don't

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Speaker 1: there's a honey bugs and that's one minute and there's

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Speaker 1: none in Los Angeles. That's not true. Shut up a

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Speaker 1: false Shut up, you're both wrong. Get out of here. No,

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Speaker 1: that's just because you're an actor. That's that's because you

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Speaker 1: have the ability to play belize. And I don't believe

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Speaker 1: that there was a bug right there. That's called word play.

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Speaker 1: That's I mean, I don't think so. Honey bugs and

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Speaker 1: they can go if if this earth is sinking the

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Speaker 1: way I feel it is that we can get rid

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Speaker 1: of them. Bugs found dad, bugs, bugs about bugs will

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Speaker 1: outlive us all bugs. Yeah, bugs are bugs right here

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Speaker 1: to stay. I'm sorry, Now that's odd. I think that

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Speaker 1: the reason why bugs are doing so what was because

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Speaker 1: they aren't expected to stick around as long has a

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Speaker 1: longer animals stick around, the worst off they are. Why

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01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 1: are elephants always extinct? And why there's so many sucking flaws?

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01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 1: It's truly the worst. The worst animals are the ones

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01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 1: that there's a lot of. It's true. I would love

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01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,480
Speaker 1: to see more pandas out here, but you know what,

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01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 1: there's just not very many of them. Also, there was

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Speaker 1: a lot to I don't think, so honey this week,

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Speaker 1: and I chose bugs I could have. I don't think

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Speaker 1: so honey. Anyone tweeting about how the CARDI BN Megan

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01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 1: single is inappropriate go fund yourself. Who's saying that? Now?

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01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 1: It's it's like it's like a lot of Republican congressmen

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01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 1: being like what is this. I'm like, why the hell

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01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:31,919
Speaker 1: do they care? It's because they can have their little

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01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 1: talking point. Yeah. Yeah, there was a ton to I

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Speaker 1: don't think, so honey this week, and I chose bugs.

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Speaker 1: I've got one. I've got I've got a pretty crazy one.

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Speaker 1: I love when you have one. Okay, so I think

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01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 1: you got a pretty crazy one. I think people people

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01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 1: will relate, all right, So this is gonna be bone.

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01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. As time starts now, I

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01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: don't think so honey. Speaking of books, books with like

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01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: the fake distress texture already and now let me distress

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01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: the books on my own. I want to wear down

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01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:04,919
Speaker 1: the book with the elements in my house. Don't give

1308
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 1: me this like series of unfortunate events like you know,

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01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 1: were like on the book, like when the pages get

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01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 1: all like scratchy on the side. When they do that,

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01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 1: they distress it on purpose to make the book seem

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Speaker 1: rustic or something. I don't I don't even know what

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01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 1: aesthetic it falls into, Honey, I don't think you selling

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01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 1: me a book that is supposed to look bad when

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01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 1: I don't know how that serves the narrative. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how that serves the marketing. Were beyond this. The

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Speaker 1: distressed books aesthetic is trapped in two thousand three. We

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01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 1: are seventeen years removed, transcended from that moment. Do not

1319
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 1: pull back into the tide of two thousand three, because look,

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01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 1: we think the country's bad now, is pretty bad back

1321
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: then too, maybe not as bad as it is now.

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01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 1: But the that Iraq war that really did a number

1323
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 1: on everything, that Iraq war. And that's one minute. So

1324
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 1: but when I get it, you wanta you want to

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01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 1: be the one to whether your own materials. Yes, do

1326
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about? Like, it's it's here.

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01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 1: I have one right right in front of me forest.

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01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about. It's it's this thing.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's got like the ridges there, you know,

1330
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 1: like those kinds of books that are like fake torn up. Sure, sure, sure,

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01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 1: you don't need to do the work in reading the book.

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01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: When it comes to Boney, you give it to him

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Speaker 1: hill Weather at himself. He will tear through these books.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I do love. I do love that you're

1335
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 1: able to, you know, wear a book down physically. And

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Speaker 1: that's something he missed from from audio books or from

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01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 1: uh from yeah, from audio books and e books. So

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Speaker 1: it's actually a really culture. You can't wear an audio

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Speaker 1: book down. You can't wear it. It's a real culture.

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Speaker 1: Number fourteen. It can't be fourteen. There's so many four

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01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:42,680
Speaker 1: teensy three. You can't wear an audio book down. All right,

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01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 1: Bob the drag Queen already with it. I don't think so, honey.

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01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 1: All right, I just wrote one for myself. I didn't

1344
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 1: to try to have one kind of guest. Let's see

1345
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 1: if this is a minute at all, and if not,

1346
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 1: also all star ranting you're ready, this is beautiful. This

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01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 1: is Bob the drag Queens. I don't think so, honey,

1348
01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 1: And uh, time starts now, game, I don't think so too.

1349
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 1: Showing your video in a zoom, why do you need

1350
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 1: to see my face? You already know what I look like.

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01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 1: I chose this picture for a reason. This is a

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01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 1: photo shopped image. And not only that, but I took

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01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 1: this picture back when I first moved to New York

1354
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 1: City and at the skin of a nut free Milky

1355
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 1: Way chocolate bar. And now I'm a webbing age Reese's

1356
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 1: pizza you found in the couch after five years. The

1357
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 1: shower this morning, and I haven't showered in the last

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01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:31,640
Speaker 1: week at all. If we're being honest, and if I

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01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 1: turned my camera, if I don't turn my camera on,

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01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 1: you need to know that I'm only dressed from the

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Speaker 1: waist up. And on top of that, the only clean

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01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 1: part of my apartment is the area you are seeing

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01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 1: behind me. If I turn my camera to the or

1364
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Speaker 1: to the right, it's absolutely gonna look like the day

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01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 1: after the Stonewall riots. So we lug into the video

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01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 1: and you say, can't we see your face? The answer

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01:09:55,439 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 1: is a flaming fucking no, you cannot. I And that's

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Speaker 1: one minute. Everyone. We should just make it clear that Bob,

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01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 1: I think that was directed at us, and and we

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01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:08,720
Speaker 1: and we we can receive it. Yeah, we just want

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01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 1: to say that first of all, in this quarantem and

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01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 1: this quarantine we have to be reserving something, and if

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01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 1: that must mean face to face contact, we're happy to

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01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,719
Speaker 1: see you. And that photo that you had up before

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01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 1: was you know, the photo shop. I mean it was gorgeous,

1376
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 1: but that wasn't the real Bob. That wasn't the real Bob.

1377
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:34,439
Speaker 1: That was a curated version. That was a curated And

1378
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 1: now he's hidden, he's hid in the video. Wow. See,

1379
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 1: And already it's a less sort of visually commanding experience

1380
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 1: without experience. But that was an excellent I don't think so, honey.

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01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:49,680
Speaker 1: What are the rules? I mean, like if you're not

1382
01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 1: like you know, on the meeting, or if you're not

1383
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 1: like pulling focus, it's like, yeah, I don't really want

1384
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 1: to be seen all that the entire time. Either is

1385
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 1: everyone knows their video is not on. Like when people

1386
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 1: are like your videos got on, it's like a bitch.

1387
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 1: We the fu no us right before this, and we

1388
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 1: were like, I don't think Bob his video was on.

1389
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 1: He heard us the whole time. He was just like

1390
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:21,280
Speaker 1: getting ready, rolling his fucking damn eyes. These two, Um damn,

1391
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 1: what a pleasure for us to have you, Bob the

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01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 1: drag Queen. So wonderful. It's been coming on. It's been

1393
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 1: really wonderful. I really think you're both really magnificent And um,

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01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:37,320
Speaker 1: what's good with this reading of your show? You're gonna

1395
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 1: do a reading of your your play Night Soap is Uh,

1396
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 1: it's on the schedule. We just don't know where it

1397
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 1: is on the schedule, but we're going to figure out

1398
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 1: about that and then we will let everyone know. But basically,

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01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 1: Bone and I wrote it. We what was it anfest?

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01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:56,680
Speaker 1: It was years ago. We Ruby Rue, who I'm sure

1401
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:58,559
Speaker 1: you know, got up, got us all up and dragged

1402
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 1: and beat our face for the very first time ever.

1403
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 1: And we basically played two warring women in the chocolate

1404
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 1: industry and we wrote a whole play about it. And uh,

1405
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:11,120
Speaker 1: Bowen and I are going to do it, and we'll

1406
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 1: be donating all the money that people, um would sort

1407
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 1: of throw our way to watch it. Not that you

1408
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 1: have to in order to watch it, but it's a

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01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 1: two person show. Yes, I can't wait to see. I

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01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 1: would love to whenever happens, let me know, I would

1411
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:32,439
Speaker 1: love to attend. Oh my god, I think my life

1412
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 1: this is not. I feel like I'm confident enough in

1413
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:38,560
Speaker 1: the writing and just in your um and your sensibilities

1414
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 1: that I think you would enjoy this, I really do.

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01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 1: I don't remally say that to throw back to the

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01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:46,640
Speaker 1: Dynasty era war paint. It's very war paint. Is there

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01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 1: like a timeline, like in the next month, In the

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01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 1: next I would say, in the next month, yes, yes, no,

1419
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:59,679
Speaker 1: it's that was ahead of top or delivery. Your voice

1420
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:03,679
Speaker 1: didn't up, but it went up a few notes. Top

1421
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 1: is it better if? If? It? Is? It better if

1422
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:14,280
Speaker 1: it's ted? A topper in the next month tends to

1423
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,600
Speaker 1: be Boone tends to be a little bit busier than

1424
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 1: me with his job on the hit sketch show Saturday

1425
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 1: Night Live. Not anymore, not for not for a while longer. Um, well, yeah,

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01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 1: we'll do it the next month. We'll do that. Um.

1427
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:33,679
Speaker 1: And also it is we we totally forgot sibling rivalry.

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01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 1: Sibling you better be listening to sibling rivalry With the

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01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 1: mon exchange, who is someone that we must get on

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01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 1: this pot wonderful wet You know? I went on the

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01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 1: exchange right and it was so fun and Monai like

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01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:53,599
Speaker 1: Money's got the damn set up. Money looks gorgeous over

1433
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 1: the zoom camera. We gotta say so, you're acknowledging person

1434
01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 1: she didn't look like good. Drag her? Wow, boy, and

1435
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 1: the library is closed. You said we love all the

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01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 1: New York Queens. Every year, whenever the New York Queens

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01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 1: go on, we are in the corner and also to

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01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 1: the left, and then the things that goes up you

1439
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 1: and you look like baby Yoda. Yeah, Baby yodas cute.

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01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 1: What are you gonna let baby Yoda here? That's the question. Yes,

1441
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 1: did you see baby Yoda in the WAP video? Oh

1442
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 1: that's something I'm gonna need. Honestly, I just tweeted the

1443
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:39,840
Speaker 1: other day picture goodnight plus see what acid is damn

1444
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:46,599
Speaker 1: dirty to me? Baby Yoda speaking in adult Yoda's voice,

1445
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 1: jarring hot moment. You just you just dragged you exposed me.

1446
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 1: I've not seen the Mandalorian. I'm just jumping on the

1447
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 1: Baby Yoda. You're missing wagon zero, you're missing zero? All right? Yeah,

1448
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:03,560
Speaker 1: he will watch Mandalorian. You didn't watch Mandalorian? No, definitely not.

1449
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 1: But I did watch We're Here, which is we need

1450
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 1: for a second season. Congratulations, the plug of it all.

1451
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 1: And then let's win that fucking emmy, shall we? In fact,

1452
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 1: before you go, let's see who the funk you're up against?

1453
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 1: I want to I want to spread. I want to

1454
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 1: be Schumer r up against Kevin Hart. Um. Okay, yes,

1455
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:31,679
Speaker 1: Amy Schumer learns to cook. That ain't winning an Emmy. Cheer, Oh, Cheer, Cheer. Cheer.

1456
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 1: Cheer is a cultural moment. But you know what we

1457
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:39,640
Speaker 1: are people, We're here. I love Cheer. I remember not

1458
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 1: that much about the show, like with some distance. I'm like,

1459
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:45,320
Speaker 1: it was it was all very it was, it was

1460
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:48,840
Speaker 1: very sort of. It didn't occupy space in my brain

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Speaker 1: for that long. And I love it. I think it's

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01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 1: a wonderful work. But I feel like we're here is

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01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:55,679
Speaker 1: just so important culturally that I heard that the director

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01:15:55,800 --> 01:16:03,600
Speaker 1: of Cheer is a Holocaust denier. Damn on that. But

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to I'm trying to get out. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: have to vote elsewhere on that one. How do you

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Speaker 1: say that? Okay, listen, this is a campaign, and on

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Speaker 1: the campaign trail things get very ugly, you get dirty.

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Speaker 1: We have um Okay, but also can we say three

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Speaker 1: out of five of these shows are super super queer,

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Speaker 1: so you gotta love that love, right, So I'm still

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Speaker 1: there's there's two drag shows there and also alright, well,

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Speaker 1: damn the drag Queen. Thank you for coming and doing

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Speaker 1: Lost Culture my pleasure. Thank you all. And I'll see

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Speaker 1: what they're reading. Yes, yes, and also you know we

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Speaker 1: and every episode with the song, isn't that right? Bowen Yang?

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Speaker 1: It's rights and here we go, Jessy love me, how

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Speaker 1: well I know you're doing it all? I boy,