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Speaker 1: been a governor. Uh definitely was not a great governor

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Speaker 1: in all aspects if you read all about it. I mean,

427
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 1: he definitely had a lot of roadblocks, a lot of

428
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,199
Speaker 1: things that went wrong. And if he hadn't knocked up

429
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 1: the nanny, they'd probably still be talking about that. Yeah

430
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Speaker 1: that's true. Um, but yeah, at least he had the

431
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 1: experience of running a state. Donald Trump literally went from

432
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 1: nothing in terms of political career to the president. So

433
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: it's like, why can't Oprah win free if if he did,

434
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 1: It's it's a fair point. And I'm watching some of

435
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,400
Speaker 1: these commentators on Fox and it's like we were talking

436
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,360
Speaker 1: about pretty blonds and all that. I won't say any

437
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 1: names of who it was, but like I saw one

438
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 1: girl in particular who I've met, and she was on

439
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 1: Fox Business and she's like, well, maybe she'd be a

440
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: great president. I mean, she's she's a businesswoman. And that's

441
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 1: become like the meme that you're a businessperson, you will

442
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: make a good president, and it's a completely different fields. Yeah. No,

443
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: I I hear that all the time too, and I

444
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 1: completely disagree that, yeah, being a good businessman or businesswoman

445
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 1: would makes you a good politician or a good leader

446
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 1: or a good president. That's total nonsense because the differences

447
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: the profit incentives are different. Um, when you go into

448
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: politics and you deal with these complicated issues, there are

449
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 1: resources that are indivisible. One of the big difference is uh,

450
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 1: in business, as you can and as Americans were great

451
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 1: at this American businessman is trying to set up a

452
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: deal so that it's a win win win, and everyone

453
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: takes away something. Everyone walks away from the deal. Happy. Um,

454
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: when you get into politics, is you know, Jared Kushner

455
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: is finding out there are some things that are indivisible,

456
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,479
Speaker 1: like Israel and Palestine. It's not so easy to just

457
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: draw a fucking red line across territory like okay, you

458
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 1: have that, you have that, or or you have all

459
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,959
Speaker 1: of that and you have nothing. Um. You know, politics

460
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 1: in international politics and domestic politics are just so radically

461
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: different than business. And Um, I don't I don't know

462
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: what to say. I mean, I know what to say that.

463
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 1: You know, Trump is proof of that being a good

464
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: businessman doesn't make you a good president. But other people

465
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: are gonna be like, you don't know what the funk

466
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: you're talking about, Jack, He's building a wall. Well this

467
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: goes back to you not you know, talking about things

468
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 1: you're not necessarily a subject matter expert on, but having opinion.

469
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Speaker 1: But I mean, I would just look at and say,

470
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Speaker 1: what what has Trump had done since he's gotten in office? Um,

471
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: he got his tax for Form bill passed that Fox me,

472
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to pay more in taxes, thank you. Um.

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Speaker 1: Everything else he failed to repeal Obamacare. This wall is

474
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: nowhere in sight. I mean, what, what has he actually done?

475
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Speaker 1: And I mean granted he's like what one year in

476
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: but it seems like he's gotten very little done. I

477
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Speaker 1: I will leave it at that. Um. But with with that,

478
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: for the first time, on with us. Dan Crenshaw running

479
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: for Congress in the second District of Texas as a

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Speaker 1: Republican former Seal Team three UH ten year combat vet,

481
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Speaker 1: also reading your bio Masters in Public Administration from the

482
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Speaker 1: Harvard Kennedy School of Government. So you've done more than

483
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: just special operations, which is a lot in itself of course. Um,

484
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on, man, thanks for having me. I'm

485
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,360
Speaker 1: a fan of all the things you guys put out,

486
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,879
Speaker 1: so it's an honor to be here. Awesome. Well, the

487
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: first thing I was going to ask you about before

488
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Speaker 1: we get into like any real questions, I was just

489
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: out of curiosity. Um, Drew Wallace, who runs all of

490
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: our stuff for softwarep TV, is the one who made

491
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: the connection. So I was wondering how you go back Withdrew.

492
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: And then also, uh, Jason Kennets or our head of brand,

493
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: was like, I've met Dan. He's a solid guy. So

494
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 1: hearing a lot of good things about you. Oh, I

495
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: gotta thanks the other great guys, Um Drew and I.

496
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: How did we get connected? I guess through it through

497
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: another mutual friend at Oakley. Um, and we just hit

498
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: it off for a while. Um and uh despite his

499
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: ranger background. UM, but you great, great guy. And you know,

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00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: I'm glad to see he's doing well. Um working with

501
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: you all now. But I was talked to him a

502
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: lot of Oakley and it took a special interest in me.

503
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: And I'm feeling sorry for me and giving me, uh

504
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,880
Speaker 1: sunglasses when I needed them. Uh, you know, with my

505
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: my one good eye, UH need to be specially protected.

506
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 1: It's pretty sensitive to the light. So they helped me

507
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: out a lot with that. Hey Dan, it's Shack. Thanks

508
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: for coming on the show today. Hey, thank you Jack,

509
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Yeah. I guess a good way

510
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,479
Speaker 1: to start this interview today is I want to ask you, so,

511
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: what made you decide to run for Congress? I mean,

512
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: you had this pretty incredible background in the military and

513
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 1: then going to Harvard and then what was this just

514
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 1: sort of like the natural next step for you? Uh,

515
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: not not initially, but not something I hadn't thought of

516
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: you know, we we had to assisted in my wife

517
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: um in the past. And you know how because the

518
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: real question is how do you how do you make

519
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: an impact? How do you continue making an impact? You know,

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00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: my entire life would want to be an a b

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Speaker 1: CEL really since like age twelve. You know, you read

522
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: a book and you're hooked, and you're hooked to the

523
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: adventure and the patriotism and the elitism of it. And

524
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: that's just what I wanted to do. And so when

525
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: that's all sort of wrapping up and coming to an end,

526
00:28:57,960 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: what do you do with your life? And you know,

527
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Speaker 1: I I knew a couple of things. I knew that

528
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Speaker 1: I really can't get up in the morning for anything

529
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: that doesn't really giving a sense of fulfillment. And m

530
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: the still teams I think did that for me and

531
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: and I think they did that for me because of

532
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: the the the intensity of it, the the impact that

533
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: you that you're having, and you know, that dedication to

534
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: public service and serving your country and the way that

535
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: makes you feel um and and the goods you see

536
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: it does for your country, and how how critical it is.

537
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: And I think there's a there's a ton of ways

538
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: to serve your country, and so I think the way

539
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: I do it that you know, it's it's through leadership

540
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: to the leadership I learned the teams and bringing that

541
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: kind of credibility and passion and inspiration to Congress and uh,

542
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: you know, and showing people what leadership actually means. It's

543
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: not just it's not just authority. People didn't or you know,

544
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,719
Speaker 1: my my guys didn't follow me through mine fields and

545
00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: into dangerous, scariest environments imaginable type places. Um, unless they

546
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: had actually believed that you were the right guy for

547
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 1: the job. You know, yes, you have some sort of

548
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: authority over them, but they're not following you because of

549
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: the bars that your collar and anybody in the military

550
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: would agree with that. And it shouldn't really be any

551
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: different for your elected representatives. You should, you should truly

552
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: be able to say that you believe in them and

553
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: that they've got your back. And that's that's kind of

554
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: leadership I want to show, um for the people of Texas.

555
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: I was written on your website about how you know,

556
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Speaker 1: you describe how you lost one eye and you know,

557
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: went temporarily blind in the other eye. Um, you know,

558
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,479
Speaker 1: when you're caught in an I e D strike and

559
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: I've interviewed other veterans about this, but I wanted to

560
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: ask your take because this is always very interesting to

561
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: hear about, you know, how people bounce back. And I

562
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Speaker 1: noticed that you went on a couple more deployments after

563
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: that injury, and I was just wondering if you could

564
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Speaker 1: talk a little bit about, you know, the recovery process

565
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: and how you kind of jumped back in the saddle.

566
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: Of course. Um. Yeah, so you know, I got hit lost,

567
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: I was blinded immediately, Um, knocked over. Didn't really lose consciousness,

568
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: but I was. I was torn up pretty bad. One

569
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: of our Afghan interpreters said, stepping an i D pressure

570
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: plate right in front of me, and Um, he was

571
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: dismembered right away. And I took the blast because I

572
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: was only a couple of feet away and looking right

573
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Speaker 1: at him, so I didn't I was blind, but I

574
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: don't think I quite realized I was blood in the

575
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: sense that I figured it was just dirt my eyes

576
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: or something along those lines. So there was a long

577
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Speaker 1: period which really never ended, by the way, a period

578
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: of self a self deception where I was I was

579
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: never really blind. I mean basically I was, but I

580
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: really didn't think of it that way. Um, I was

581
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: able to walk it off and get to the Metavac

582
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: Hilo and they put me out right away. And I

583
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: woke up about five days later, still blind of course,

584
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: um now completely missing my right eye because had been

585
00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: been removed and uh surgery and candahar and to so

586
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: I woke up from Germany, and you know that their

587
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: message to me was essentially, you you might see get

588
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: out of your left eye. It's not it's not looking

589
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: so great. We got a cataract, so we have to

590
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: stabilize you and then get you to Besasa where we'll

591
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: actually do the operation. And again that kind of self

592
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: deception kicked in where I really just didn't believe them.

593
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: You know, you didn't want to. I don't know, it

594
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: just didn't. It wasn't like a there was there was

595
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: really there was. There was no pushing and pulling inside

596
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: my brain like it was just like, okay, you're saying

597
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: there's a chance. I guess there's a chance, and and

598
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: and and that's just how I thought. And frankly it

599
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,239
Speaker 1: was probably better for my mental health, but that's how

600
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: I thought. And but but I was hallucinating constantly too

601
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: because because like I said, I was blind but still

602
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: seeing what I what I where I had just been.

603
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: So I was constantly seeing Afghanistan all over my hospital room,

604
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: um in dreams and then waking up from dreams and

605
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: still seeing those hallucinations. It's a very weird, awful experience. UM.

606
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: So we eventually it through that, and you know, of

607
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: course proving the doctors, um, proving their negativity wrong by

608
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: by by actually recovering and actually eventually gaining full sight

609
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: in my left eye. Not perfect site by any means.

610
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I saw have to wear a

611
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: very specialized contact to see anything at all. But we

612
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: got through it. And you know why why I keep

613
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: going And you know, not medically retire from the military

614
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: right then and there. And I don't know, that just

615
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: wasn't There wasn't an option, you know. I think people

616
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: ask me that a lot, and it's kind of a

617
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: tough question because I never really wrestled with it. There

618
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: was there was never a moment where I thought, oh,

619
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: I mean I should probably get out of the military

620
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: now that that That conversation never occurred. The only conversations

621
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: that occurred were which, you know, can I go back

622
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: into a platoon or do I have to do other

623
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: kind of deployments, Like what kind of service can I

624
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: continue doing? Not really should I continue? It was just

625
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: it was just never a conversation that I had, was

626
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: never something I wrestled with. So it's our question to answer. Um,

627
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: it's the best way to answer. It's like, you know,

628
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: you're going to have to do better than that to

629
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: keep me from continuing uh service and continue serving with

630
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: my brothers, You're gonna have to do more than take

631
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: away my sight. I think it's great that they that

632
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: they let guys who have been injured stay in, you know,

633
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: even if they I mean, sometimes they can requalify and

634
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: become you know, ground guys again putting boots to assides.

635
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: But even if that's not possible, you know, for those

636
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: guys to stay around and you know, work in some

637
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,280
Speaker 1: other capacity in their unit or in the military and

638
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: um kind of have that sense of brotherhood and leave

639
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: the military on their own terms. I think it's good

640
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: for the military, and I think it's good for them

641
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: personally too. It is We've list a lot of time

642
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: and money and training into our people, and we should

643
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: be looking for ways to keep them. Don't I don't,

644
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. The Navy does a great

645
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: job of that. I think the Army and Marine Corps

646
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 1: do a little bit better because I have not spot

647
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: it is there's a lot of fighting on my part

648
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 1: to stay in and they wanted to back discharge you. Yeah,

649
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: it's that they don't because they don't because you know,

650
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: the Navy Seals are only very tiny part of the

651
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: rest of the Navy, and so when you go up

652
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 1: to be med, they're not They're not really accustomed to

653
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: seeing kind of combat injuries and the waivers that you

654
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: need in order to stay active and deployable. So it's

655
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: that those those conversations are harder to have whereas you know,

656
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 1: in they are in the Army, I've seen it a

657
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: little bit easier. But it's something we we should do,

658
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, and again I did redeploy UM,

659
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: but more in intel related roles, still still in a

660
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 1: way that I felt was impactful and it's a selling

661
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: So I'm very proud of that and happy to would

662
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: have kept doing it UM. But eventually we got to

663
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: a point where even even that was a little bit

664
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 1: too much for the you know, the stricter rules and

665
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: and and kind of maintaining the medical standards that they

666
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: wanted to. So it made it made sense to medically

667
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: retire me in two thous sixteen. So when you got out,

668
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: you went, um back to school. Could you talk a

669
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: little bit about continuing your education as a as a

670
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,479
Speaker 1: seal veteran, because I mean there's a lot of dudes

671
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: out there. Of course we are leaving the military. I

672
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: was one of them in two thousand time getting out

673
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: and that process of going back to school, of course, um,

674
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: and you're you're looking for that transition, right and you're

675
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: looking for a bridge into the civilian world because there

676
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: really is no obvious way to do that, you know.

677
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: So that the first thing I really thought it was, okay,

678
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: like what gets me up in the morning. It's kind

679
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: of like what I was talking about before, the things

680
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 1: that get me up in the morning, or our service,

681
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: the American people serving something greater than myself. And I

682
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 1: felt that I got that out of the military. Um, worlds,

683
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: can I get that, you know, world? Because I don't

684
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: want a job, I want a new mission. And yeah,

685
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: that that's harder. It really limits your choices. Um. But uh,

686
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: I went to the Kennedy school, because the Kennedy School

687
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: of Government, and because it's all about public service. And

688
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 1: I was interested in polow see that just natural security

689
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: policy and sort of my wheelhouse. But economic policy, healthcare policy,

690
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: immigration issues, I mean, things that concern voters at a

691
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: very low level, you know, at the local state level.

692
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: I getting more and more interested in politics, and so

693
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: that was really the natural choice for me. Now what

694
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: I did with that degree, I was sure. Yet I

695
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 1: thought that after you graduated from Harvard, they just handed

696
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: you a job and on the silver platter, And turns

697
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: out not that way at all. So um, you know, somebody,

698
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: but after graduating and I was really looking for a

699
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: way to serve again. You know, I was really only

700
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: looking at either government jobs or um jobs in congress

701
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: is something along those lines. Um that I would work

702
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: with the Congressman P. Sessions for a while just to

703
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: really wanted to reconnect with Texas. That was my goal

704
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: above all else. But I'm sure all veterans have really

705
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: come across this. It's just it's hard. It's hard to

706
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of people want to meet with you.

707
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: They want to they want to hear your story and

708
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: tell you how great they are. And how appreciative they

709
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,479
Speaker 1: are of your service. But we're still going to hire

710
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 1: the guy or gal who had been answering phones and

711
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: in that industry or whatever it is for the last

712
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: couple of years, you know, And they don't they don't

713
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: realize how quickly veterans can learn and adapt and overcome

714
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: and get back on their feet. What do you think

715
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: of you know today, the situation in America will not

716
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: just today. It's always been like this. I think to

717
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: a large extent that our politicians are largely lawyers, and

718
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: you know, you're a guy who actually has real deal

719
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: military experience and also majored in public policy. I mean

720
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,439
Speaker 1: that kind of brings a different background to the full,

721
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 1: doesn't it. It does. It's a it's a necessary background.

722
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: Um hey great. There's so many lawyers in the in

723
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 1: the legislature, and um right, because it's a your lawmakers,

724
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: So people assume that you should be a lawyer before

725
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: you become a lawmaker. And it's just not that's just

726
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: not truce. But you know, I think worked on the hill,

727
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: like I understand how these things have it. You're a policymaker, yes, yes,

728
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: you're writing laws. If you're not the one physically writing

729
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: the laws. Your law degree didn't help you in this,

730
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: you know, unless you want to be on the judiciary

731
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: committee or something like that, then this guys should probably

732
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: be lawyers, but you know it's it's certainly not a requirement. Um.

733
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: And actually a lot of people are running against in

734
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: this primary are mainly businessmen. Only a couple of lawyers

735
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: here and there. And too bad because I had all

736
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: these lines about are you're sick of having lawyers? You're politicians?

737
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: And hope for me? But I turned to both like

738
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: a disident the lawyers. What do you Ian and I

739
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: were having this conversation earlier, and I won't interject my opinion,

740
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: I'd like to hear your take on it. What do

741
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: you think about the notion of businessmen running for office?

742
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: I mean, of course, we hope that there's a diversity

743
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: of American life that ends up representing us in public life.

744
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: But there's this idea out there that if you're a

745
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: good businessman, you're going to make a good politician or

746
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: a good public leader. What do you think of that? Yeah?

747
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it should really be dependent on

748
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: on the person as opposed to their necessarily their experiences so,

749
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: as I said, I'm running against a lot of businessmen

750
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: and they are, and we'll say things like this is

751
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: how I know how to fix the economy because I'm

752
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: a businessman. Well, let me guess it's lower regulations and

753
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: less active I mean, these things aren't all that complex. Um.

754
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: The policy prescriptions are out there. Um. You know, we

755
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: differ on whether you're on the right or the left.

756
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: I which probably prescription policy prescriptions you think are best

757
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 1: for the economy. But you're not running to be CEO

758
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 1: of the second district. You're you're running to lead people. Leader.

759
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,720
Speaker 1: Leadership is not authority, you know. And I think sometimes

760
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: when you manage in office, you might you might get

761
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: confused about the difference between being a leader of being

762
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,720
Speaker 1: a manager and what it truly means to have authority

763
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: and influence. And you know, like I was saying before,

764
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: like you guys don't follow me to the heat of

765
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 1: battle because of the bars and my color. They follow

766
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: you because they believe in you and they trust you.

767
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: And you need that kind of credibility in any leadership role,

768
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: and especially when you're representing the American people. I think

769
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: that's so important. Um. And you know I'm not saying

770
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,760
Speaker 1: all CEOs don't have that. I'm just saying it's certainly

771
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: not a prerequisite. And in an even if you're talking

772
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: economic policies, it's not a prerequisite because you know, the

773
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 1: policy is different than managing your office and managing your business.

774
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 1: Very pro business, don't get me wrong, and I'm very

775
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: happy to see entrepreneurs creating jobs. I mean they are

776
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: the drivers are our economy, especially small businesses. But policy

777
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: is different, all right, Like it's you know, and you

778
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,959
Speaker 1: have to study in these things in a different way,

779
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: like like what sort of more expensive policies, how is it?

780
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: How is the regulatory policy actually written? And by what agencies?

781
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: And how do they go about it? What are the

782
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: cost benefit analysis they do? Those are the questions that

783
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: you have to answer. Not so much. Uh, you know,

784
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: you're managing your office as you would and you know

785
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 1: in every quarter, you know, coming with different projections and

786
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: profit gold, you know, all these things that there's a

787
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: lot of things that go into business, is a lot

788
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 1: of things that go into policy, and there's some overlap,

789
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: but it's it's a it depends on the person. It

790
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 1: depends on their ability to lead and make a difference

791
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: in influence. And you know, again we're all me and

792
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: my opponents will all probably agree on the policy prescriptions, right,

793
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: we're all very conservative. Uh, what matters is who can

794
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: get those things done and who can inspire more people

795
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: to come to your side. That's influence, that's leadership, and

796
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: that I think I've learned a lot from from the

797
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: steal teams. Well, how do you think you would go

798
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: about that? Considering the very divisive political atmosphere we're living

799
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: in today? Wow? Yeah, I mean, you know it's a

800
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: big it's a big question, but I mean you'll be

801
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: in the hot seat if you get elected right right now,

802
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: I mean, since you do it first by by showing

803
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 1: credibility for what you're talking about. One of my big

804
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: things is is uh speaking to the next generation, especially

805
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: with respect to as being a conservative. You know, you

806
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: can imagine most young people vote, you know, they're lean left,

807
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: and that that worries me because I do believe that

808
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: we have a lot of the right ideas. I do

809
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: believe that our values are good ones, and I do

810
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: believe that we truly have m the best interests of

811
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: the country in mind. And I'm not so sure we're

812
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 1: convincing people of that. And that's maybe because we're electing

813
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: people to represent us as conservatives, with which just less

814
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: grows a credibility than they really need to be up there.

815
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: So if you're you know, you elected businessman or a lawyer,

816
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: So what what is it about this person that that

817
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: that proves to you that they really care about the

818
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: country and then they care about their constituents like I'm

819
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: not so sure. Maybe they do, maybe they don't. Um,

820
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: you know, I I'd like to think that people look

821
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: at my story and they know that truly the only

822
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: thing I care about is actually serving the American people. Um.

823
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: And and no matter what you do to me, whether

824
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: you're take my eye like I'll that's all I still

825
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: want to do. Um. There's really not a whole lot

826
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: you can do to get in my way. So if

827
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: it comes, if you're looking for somebody to fight for

828
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: your values, then you can you can be damn sure

829
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: that it's going to be me. And I'm gonna be

830
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: pretty effective at it. Um. I'm also one of the

831
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: few people who have actually worked in federal government and

832
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: really knows the issue as well, since I of national security,

833
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: intelligence related issues, defense, you name it. You truly need

834
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: experience in these things to be effective. Are these are

835
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: these They are not things that you can just sort

836
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: of research on your own, develop your talking points and

837
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: figure out because it does require years and years and

838
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: classified briefings, an actual experience on the ground to understand. Um.

839
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: I'm probably one of the few people in the race too,

840
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 1: with a lot of existing relationships on the hill. Um.

841
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 1: You know, I don't. I haven't. I'm not a dent serve,

842
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure I'm the only one with actual

843
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: endorsements from sitting members of Congress. Uh. You need those

844
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,439
Speaker 1: relationships to get things done, and people want to work

845
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: with you when you have a proven track record of

846
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: of serving this country. Um. And if they don't want

847
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: to work with you, they at least want the you know,

848
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: the publicly. I think they know that they need to. UM.

849
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: And I don't think that would be the case of

850
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: my opponents. I don't think that they I don't think

851
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: they'll be able to inspire that kind of uh, you know,

852
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,280
Speaker 1: you know, inspire that kind of a sense of cooperation

853
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: and get things done kind of attitude that I that

854
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: I believe I can and that I know I've done

855
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: in the past working in the military and working across

856
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: different federal agencies of State, Department, intelligence community. UM. You know,

857
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: to get to get some major operations done. Hard to

858
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: talk about on a podcast, but no, no, I understand,

859
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: but I appreciate you gotta you know, going at length

860
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 1: on this. UM. It is one of the benefits actually

861
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: of doing a podcast and as opposed to television is

862
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: you know, you can really articulate whatever it is you

863
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: like to say. UM. I would like to shift over

864
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: into UM national defense a little bit because I was

865
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: reading you know, your policy positions on your website, you know,

866
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: to prepare for this interview, and you talk about ISIS

867
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 1: on there, and you know we can see that isis IS.

868
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to use the word defeated, but they've

869
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: been crushed pretty good in Syria and Iraq. UM. There

870
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: nowhere near where they were at, say, two years ago. UM.

871
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,760
Speaker 1: What do you see as far as being our national

872
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: defense priorities in the future. I mean, I don't think

873
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: either of us are so naive as to think that

874
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: international jihad is going away. UM, how would you what

875
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 1: would your approach to counter terrorism be, you know, say,

876
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: going over the next five years, yeah, I know you're

877
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: you're right, just say it's not going away anytime soon. Um,

878
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: it has been nice to see this president really unleashed

879
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: the general's so to speak on ISIS. And you know,

880
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: because you've probably seen me talking to my friends in

881
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: the soft community there there isn't uplifting in morale and

882
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: the way they feel that they're they're treated and the

883
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: way that the field the administration has their back. And UM,

884
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: I think it's really been effective. Now that doesn't mean

885
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: the ideology is going away anytime soon. If anything, it's

886
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: it's still very much alive. Um. They simply don't hold territory.

887
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: And you know you fight that by really removing the

888
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: conversation away from arbitrary timeline and arbitrary troop levels. You know,

889
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: we have to get we have we have to have

890
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: people in leadership positions who who are just honest with

891
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: the American voter and say, listen, if if you wanted

892
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: to feed these things, you have to maintain the presence.

893
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: You cannot have UM power vacuums. And in states like

894
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: Afghanistan or Iraq or Yemen, you just can't, you know,

895
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: and you cannot for ten That's how we can like

896
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: on Ostris, like we took our head in the stand

897
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 1: and then and there's nothing going on out there. That's

898
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: just it's unrealistic. Endless deployments, no ended site. Yeah, I mean,

899
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: at least for the foreseeable future. There might be an end.

900
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: I mean, but you know, American troops have been in

901
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: South Korea and Germany and Japan since you know, the

902
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 1: Korean War and World War two, and these these things

903
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: turned out well. And I'm not saying those countries are

904
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: really comparable to Iraq and Afghanistan, but but we we

905
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: do have pretty good evidence, very very good evidence of

906
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: what happens when you do leave power vacuums. You get

907
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 1: ISIS and you get you get nine eleven. We we

908
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: know that already. Now we don't. That doesn't mean we

909
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: need a hundred two hundred thousand troops nation building. I

910
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 1: think we've we've tried that experiment and it's I don't

911
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 1: think American people have the patience for it. But if

912
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: we're not going to engage in nation building, then I mean,

913
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: isn't that literally uh, you know, a sentence in a

914
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: in a way, are our troops that they have to

915
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 1: stay and occupy a country like Afghanistan indefinitely because we're

916
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 1: not willing to invest in the infrastructure and the capacity there.

917
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: That's true. I'm not saying don't invest in it. I'm

918
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: saying we probably have to find the right balance. Um

919
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: and again, just because of the costs and because of

920
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: the the American voter is is it's not as patient

921
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: we would like it. That's what I say. No, we

922
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: do have to be honest with the American voters. This

923
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: is this is what's needed, all right, and you know

924
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 1: we we the new bombom of years. I don't think

925
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 1: we had very courageous leadership on that front, right, it

926
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: was just do whatever the polling says, um I stearted

927
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: ghettos out of Iraq, whatever that means, And well what

928
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: it meant was isis that's what it meant. We got

929
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: there going right back. So yeah, I mean you're correct

930
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: to a degree. You do have to do some nation

931
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,760
Speaker 1: building and frankly, you know, we put a lot of blood,

932
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: sweat and tears into that um into Iraq, and we

933
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: actually came away with what was looking to be a

934
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: good product. But we we you can't just leave it

935
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: for maturely and and hope it will last we fought

936
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: very hard, you know, through the years, the two thousand

937
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: and six, two thousand seven to really turn that war around,

938
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: and it was very sad to see us just just

939
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 1: let those games slide away. And Afghanistan is a different animal.

940
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 1: It's I think it's uh, the nation build a country

941
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: like Afghanistan is. It's a very different conversation than Iraq.

942
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 1: You know, you can you you can control the cities,

943
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: the major cities in Afghanistan, but uh, there's there's zero

944
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: evidence when you look at the history. Coming back to

945
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: Alexania was great that anybody can control the countryside in

946
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 1: that in that place and people even want or desire

947
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: a state. There's yeah, there's just it's just it's a

948
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:52,919
Speaker 1: very different situation than in other places in the Middle East. Um,

949
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 1: we just need to be aware of that. That doesn't

950
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: mean we leave, It means we continue pressure on it,

951
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: um so that we don't get another nine eleven. So

952
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: we've don't have elements of ol Kaid or Isis or whatever.

953
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: It is just having the room, the space, and the

954
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: and the and the time to really plan operations, you know.

955
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: And I always want to say that there's always an

956
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: argument that like, well, the more we do, the more

957
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: they hate us, the more enemies we make. And you know,

958
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 1: to an extent, you know, we have to be smart

959
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 1: about the way we operate. But at the same time

960
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: that that argument is it misunderstands how how the enemy thinks.

961
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: I always ask people like, what is it we did

962
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: to Asama bin Lan exactly? You know? Was it? Was

963
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: it all the help we gave him and Hadean in

964
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties against the Soviets. Is that why he

965
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 1: hates us because we helped him so much? Or that

966
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: was it us defending his home country of Saudi Arabia

967
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: from Saddam Hussein? I mean, what, what is what do

968
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: we do to this guy? Because you cannot you cannot win.

969
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 1: To the other things I saw when I was reading

970
00:51:56,320 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 1: about it shifting away from counter terrorism or counterinsurgence, s

971
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: is uh. You mentioned Russia and China, and you know

972
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: we've seen both of these countries involved in fairly aggressive

973
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: territory expansions in recent years in the South China Sea

974
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: and in Ukraine. Um, what what would your position be

975
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: in regards to these two countries. I mean both seem

976
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: pretty aggressive, expansionist, um and basically out foxing us, perhaps

977
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 1: in different manners. Um, but I was wondering if you

978
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: could speak a little bit to that. Of course, there

979
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: you're dealing with sort of two different still, two different entities.

980
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 1: They're kind of they're they're operating in similar ways, but

981
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: one is really a rising power and one is a

982
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 1: frustrated declining power. Right and and um, so we'll talk

983
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: about China. You know, yes, they're they're, they're they're they're

984
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 1: going to continue to test our will and see how

985
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: far they can get away with. And it's our job

986
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 1: to keep trying to shift them back into being a

987
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: responsible actor. Like, listen, it's in both of our benefit.

988
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 1: With your economy, girl, in our economy growing. That's all great,

989
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,280
Speaker 1: but stopped acting like you're a developing country, Um, taking

990
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: the short end of the stick. It's just not true anymore.

991
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: And I think that's that's a big part of Donald

992
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: Trump's message. Um, you know, China taken advantage of it.

993
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: He's right, because they like to act like they're that

994
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: they're like they're the underdog, and it's time to it's

995
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: time to really push them back into being responsible actors

996
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: that we can work with. And this North Korean issue

997
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 1: will be a huge test of that. And i'd like

998
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,439
Speaker 1: to I'd like to think that it's going well because

999
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: I think the Chinese realized that the President is pretty

1000
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:37,760
Speaker 1: serious about it. But I mean, hasn't China already backed

1001
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 1: off and made it clear that they're not going to

1002
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: be our ally against North Korea? Um? I mean, the

1003
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: Chinese need North Korea there are in a lot of

1004
00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 1: different ways for a lot of different reasons. Um. Don't

1005
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: you think it's a little No, I'm not saying they're

1006
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 1: going to back us into an absolute overthrow the regime

1007
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: of North Korea. But I think what they will start

1008
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: doing is using their actual influence too to bring the

1009
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: North Korean regime back from the brink um, because they

1010
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: realize that the US is not playing around and that

1011
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: we would actually be we would have a credible threat. Um.

1012
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: And and I think that's part of the President's strategy

1013
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: to show that he is serious and to to bring

1014
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: the Chinese to the table, not bringing to the Chinese

1015
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: as an ally in an invasion against North Korea. That's

1016
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 1: not at all what I think is in the realm

1017
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: of the possible right right now. I understand that, um,

1018
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: But but I do think they might be more inclined

1019
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,359
Speaker 1: to use their influence with the North Koreans to uh,

1020
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: you know, to push towards the deglorization eventually. I mean

1021
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: that's a long ways off, I believe, but um if

1022
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: it's even if it's even possible at all, but I

1023
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: think we hopefully will see more of that. I mean,

1024
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: there's there's not a whole lot of other choices. You know, nobody,

1025
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: nobody has good options with North Korea. That that that

1026
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: is for sure. It's either the Chinese do their part

1027
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 1: and and really bring them back and uh or or

1028
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: the president gets and use this path right now and

1029
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: it needs to be credible, and I think that's what

1030
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: he's doing. Hey, I was gonna say, then, you sound

1031
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: very knowledgeable on all of this, and I also didn't

1032
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: know about you know, your your prior experience in politics.

1033
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: The one thing I wonder about is I feel like

1034
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,720
Speaker 1: everybody who runs her office goes in there with noble

1035
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 1: intentions to help the American people, and then you know,

1036
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 1: when they get there, there's so much influence of super

1037
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 1: PACs and lobbyists and even unions, and it's like, what's

1038
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 1: your plan once you get in there to make sure

1039
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 1: that you could put forth in agenda, represent represent your constituents,

1040
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 1: um and your own values without you know, being tied

1041
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: to so many groups, which happens to I feel like

1042
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 1: almost anybody who goes to Washington, it certainly does. Um.

1043
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: You know, luckily, really unluckily, I don't don't have a

1044
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: whole lot of these big groups, So I don't know

1045
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:56,879
Speaker 1: about to hold that anybody. But if you get if

1046
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: you get the Republican nomination, I would think that you'll

1047
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: start to see the influence of those groups, right of course, um,

1048
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: you know they'll they're all over watching and then they

1049
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: come to the office all the time. You know, these

1050
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: groups aren't all bad. Let's remember they provide kind of

1051
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: a legislative subsidy to the members. Okay, you can't possibly

1052
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 1: understand every single issue, so there's not a detail that

1053
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: you need to so um. My, my basic rule would

1054
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: be this, any time somebody comes in and and and

1055
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: once a policy put forth, whether I agree with it

1056
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 1: or not, especially if I agree with it, um right

1057
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: off the bat, just I will always demand those counter

1058
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,879
Speaker 1: arguments because I've seen how these obvious work. I've seen

1059
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 1: how the you know, the paperwork they bring in front

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00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:40,799
Speaker 1: of you. They're not lying, you know that, But but

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00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: they might share to pick some data, they might only

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00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,879
Speaker 1: provide one side of the argument. Always demands both sides

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00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:47,959
Speaker 1: of the argument because I might I might know ahead

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00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: of time that I completely support what they want, um,

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00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: just because of my own values and what my constituents want.

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00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 1: But I will also demand that there's counter arguments to

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00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: that one so I can sound credible. I think too

1068
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: many politicians go out there a lot, and if they

1069
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,959
Speaker 1: really do, only have they're one or two talking points

1070
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: on one side of the story. It's not hard to

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00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: have the other side that you can actually fight for

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00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 1: these effectively. And the only way you fight effectively is

1073
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 1: if you know the other side. Um. So that's one way,

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00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: But I mean, how do you how do you keep

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00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: them at bay? I think in the end, they can't

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00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: vote for you. Okay, so you know, now they can

1077
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 1: attack you, they can put out funding whatever it is.

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00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: But if you're if you're in touch with your constituents,

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00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 1: and if you've shown them ahead of time that you

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00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 1: care and that you're courageous enough to explain why you

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00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: did certain things and why you didn't do other things. Um,

1082
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 1: you know, that's leadership, that's accountability. If you show those things,

1083
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: if you demonstrate that, you know, they'll let you back

1084
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: and and you can and and and that's the real

1085
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 1: power is your people, through people that actually give you

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00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: the gift of following you, not so much the the

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00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: lobbyists and another special interests that are out there. Yeah,

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00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: what you're saying reminds me of I was about to

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00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 1: look up where he represents, you know, justin Amash though, right,

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00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: I believe he's I have to, I have to look

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00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: at all you're trying to get him with a moment. Well,

1092
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: I think just you know, one congressman somewhere, But no,

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00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 1: I I actually seemed I jenuor generally like his positions.

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00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 1: And the thing that I've noticed on his Facebook that

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00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: I like that I don't see any other politicians doing.

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00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: Like every bill that he votes on, he'll put on

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00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: Facebook and he'll be like, this is why this is

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00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: how I voted, and this is why I voted this way,

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00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 1: like no matter what the bill is, and I wish

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00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: more politicians did that. And what you're saying reminds me

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00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: of that. And as you're responding to that, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: look up who justin Amash is so like, you're sneaky

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00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: sometimes right now. It honestly came to my head as

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00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: he was speaking, just because we were talking about Yeah,

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00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: so he's third District of um Michigan. But I just

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00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: I like that idea. I wish more congressman would do

1107
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: that because I think there's so many bills we you know,

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00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 1: we don't generally look at how our congressman votes on

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00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 1: every single bill that comes across their desk. But if

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Speaker 1: you like your congressman on Facebook, which is a pretty

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00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: easy thing to do, it's cool to be able to

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00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: see like, hey, this is why I voted this way,

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00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: and it keeps you accountable to the people. Some transparency

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00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. It's it's usually beneficial. It's not just good

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00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 1: for the people. It's good for you because you're I mean,

1116
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: you've got a communication is everything, and it's so easy

1117
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: to communicate with lots of people these days with social

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00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: media and another thing. So it's it just makes sense,

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Speaker 1: you know, would you would you possibly do that if

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Speaker 1: you become the consen? I think so. I think I

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00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,760
Speaker 1: do actually like that. Yeah, I think it's a great

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00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: We're already we've already got We're very active on social

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Speaker 1: media media as it is. And um, I mean you

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00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: have to have ways to talk to your confisent. Let

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00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: me look at the president Twitter all the time. Yeah.

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00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: That that that's the method. Um. I probably wouldn't use

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00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: exactly that method, but I would. But with speaking to

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Speaker 1: people and also just getting out there in person, I

1129
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: think getting out there in person is big two. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know in my district is a lot of very

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01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 1: active Republican clubs. You just go talk to them. Let's

1132
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: go talk to them. Just get the word out, let them,

1133
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: let them vent at you. Um, if they didn't like

1134
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: how you voted here and there, and explain yourself, just

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01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 1: be courageous enough to explain yourself and be honest and

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01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 1: and go from there. And I was gonna say with

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Speaker 1: us being you know, really an international podcast because the

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Speaker 1: Internet is everywhere and we've listeners and you know, like

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01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: the UK and Australia that I see. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not as familiar with just the second district of

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01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: of Texas, but I was looking at the basics and

1142
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: the current congressman there, of course is Republican Ted Poe,

1143
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 1: but he's not seeking re election in ten. I believe

1144
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 1: the guy has been there, you would know better than

1145
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: me of like nearly fifteen years, right, right, right, let

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01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: the look, I think, yeah, it's approximately from what I've see,

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01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: it's it's between ten in fifteen years though, from what

1148
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 1: I saw, And I would think that you know, you

1149
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 1: were saying all these people that you're running against that

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01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,600
Speaker 1: it's like a highly coveted position to be the Republican

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01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 1: nominee because I would assume district is probably going to

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01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 1: go right again, and uh, that you're not up against

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01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: a incumbent. It's it's really anyone's game. It's certainly is

1154
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: it's a it's a small field, only nine people in it.

1155
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: That's a lot, Yeah, chiefs for one congressional seat. Yeah,

1156
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 1: it's it's it's an intense race. Isn't like that in

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01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: the Democratic primary? I would assume not right, No, I'm

1158
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 1: not actually true. I think there's a few. I think

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01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 1: there's a few in the in the Democratic primary. But

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01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 1: you were right in that it's it's a very Republican district.

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01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 1: There's there's very little chance of this going blue. I

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01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: don't think the Democrats really going to focus their efforts

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01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: on this one. Um, they're gonna look at other districts

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Speaker 1: in Texas. This isn't one of them. Um. It's still

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01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 1: a diverse district, you know. It's it's it's not old

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01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 1: all old white people's Hispanic. It's um, it's it's only

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01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 1: thirty seven percent life. Um. It does. It does cover

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01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 1: large sloths of Houston. It does snake around from all

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01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 1: the way from southwest Houston to all the way up

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Speaker 1: to where I live in Spring and then all the

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Speaker 1: way east to the you know, all the way to

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Speaker 1: the edge of Harrick County. Um. So it's quite large

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01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 1: and and windy. And actually I'm gonna run the entire

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01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 1: thing on February about a hundred miles of the course

1175
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: of five days. And that's something I'm I like. I'm

1176
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 1: not a runner, you know. I think seals in the

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01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 1: older days were big triathlete type guys. That that's like

1178
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 1: the younger generation of Seals we just like to pick

1179
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 1: up heavy objects and that's what I'm good at. The UM.

1180
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 1: So this will this is, this is gonna hurt. But

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Speaker 1: a big, big reason we're doing is to draw attention

1182
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: to the neighborhoods are still affected by Hurricane Harvey. Um,

1183
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 1: it's still need reconstruction. I'm excited to do it, working

1184
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 1: with some local groups and you know, bring attention to

1185
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 1: about the campaign but also some of the issues that

1186
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 1: we need to work on here. One thing i'd assume

1187
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 1: that you have to your advantage running against eight people,

1188
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 1: like I was just thinking about it, is you have

1189
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 1: to be a pretty like big asshole to run a

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01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 1: negative campaign against this guy, because you'd be like, you know,

1191
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 1: lost your eye and I d blast and Afghanistan because

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01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 1: Dan could beat you former Navy seal. But I mean, like,

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Speaker 1: what are you gonna say this? This man hates America? Like,

1194
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what you'd have going for you in

1195
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 1: that case. Oh yeah, and you well, we'll see. I

1196
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 1: I the people are running against, at least the ones

1197
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 1: they've hired of a history of dirty campaigning, So we'll

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Speaker 1: see how this goes. Now, they are going to try

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Speaker 1: and say that, you know, I haven't lived there at

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Speaker 1: a lot of time. I mean that's true then that

1201
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: you know, I grew up in Katie, just west to Houston.

1202
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 1: My dad was in the energy industry. We moved around

1203
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: a lot as a result of that. You know, speaks Spanish,

1204
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 1: to go. Was in South America for a little while,

1205
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 1: and then I was in the military my my entire career.

1206
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 1: So than God, but I've got pretty good excuses for it. Um,

1207
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 1: you know, we're six generations of lineage here in Texas,

1208
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 1: proud of it. Uh. I wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wouldn't

1209
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: be from anywhere else. But I absolutely love set its

1210
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: greatest nation in the country. Then, before we wrapped this up,

1211
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Speaker 1: I was wondering, if you want to talk a little

1212
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 1: bit about some of the local issues, because I know

1213
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 1: I've kind of quizzed you about these like broad national

1214
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 1: and international issues. Um. You know you mentioned Houston, and

1215
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 1: I remember reading on your website about, you know, the

1216
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: recent flooding you had had down there. If you want

1217
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 1: to speak a little bit towards you know, the stuff

1218
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 1: that actually affects your district that you'd like to address.

1219
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Speaker 1: Hurricane Harvey is still very much on our minds. We

1220
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Speaker 1: don't want that again. Big reason I'm doing that hundred

1221
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 1: mile run is I don't want people to forget. Uh

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01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 1: there's there's We're just touring some houses just yesterday and

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Speaker 1: uh nearer I grew up and it was actually right

1224
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 1: where I was volunteering with Team Reubicon. I'm back in

1225
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 1: September Team Rebcon, Cradele and Station and they're still out

1226
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 1: here and there's just there's just so much work to

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01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 1: be done. There's just a lot of houses still down

1228
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 1: to the studs. We can't get contractors here because there's

1229
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 1: just not enough of them. I don't think the rest

1230
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 1: of the country realizes that if are at least at

1231
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 1: least contractors in the rest of the country. If you

1232
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 1: want jobs there in Houston, um, please come down here.

1233
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 1: We're having a lot of trouble just just getting labor.

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01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: That's it. We just need labor, um, you know, and money.

1235
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 1: But there's I think there's been a lot of donations.

1236
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,959
Speaker 1: We need labor badly. A lot of people are waiting

1237
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 1: months and months to get contractors into their house to

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01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: get some of the work done. A lot of churches

1239
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: are having to just train people up, and churches and

1240
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 1: other nonprofits just training people up on you know, how

1241
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 1: to put in flooring and drywall, just just to get

1242
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 1: some of these things done. So that's you just who

1243
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 1: Another really big local issues border security, you know, border

1244
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 1: security times with thousands um Texans are really tired of

1245
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 1: being on the front lines of this and and not

1246
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 1: having the backing from the federal government. Obviously that's changed,

1247
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 1: and I will be a huge proponent of supporting the

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01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 1: presidents and his push for better border security. Just finally

1249
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 1: just putting the issue to rest. And once you put

1250
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 1: that issue to rest, we can really fix the immigration system, um,

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01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 1: and in ways that I think benefit everybody. Um. You know,

1252
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 1: whether it's whether it's moving forward on fixing DOCCA, having

1253
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 1: honest conversations about what doc actually is and uh, and

1254
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 1: just fixing the immigration system towards a more merit based system,

1255
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 1: getting the right people in this country. We're not an

1256
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 1: time or grant, never have been. I grew up in

1257
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 1: Latin America, you know, for many years. Like I, I

1258
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 1: understand it very well. And you know, it's it's a

1259
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 1: big issue for us in Texas is getting these things

1260
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:50,720
Speaker 1: sorted out. Well. There's a ton of people who listening

1261
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 1: to the podcast or in Texas and then even more

1262
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 1: who probably just want to donate to a special operations

1263
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 1: VET who's running. Uh. You know, we get so many emails.

1264
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 1: Let's say we need more vets running for office. You

1265
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 1: have more special operations guys, will you know, here's a

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Speaker 1: guy doing it, so it's and and has the chance honestly,

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Speaker 1: because there's been other people who have been on the

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Speaker 1: podcast before who have run and honestly had very little chance.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like Kristen Beck ran against some incumbent as

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Speaker 1: a Democrat, Like I didn't think that was gonna happen,

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Speaker 1: and it didn't. I mean, it's great that you know

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Speaker 1: Kristin ran, but like you, you sound like a friend.

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Speaker 1: I could win this, my friend. And uh he's written

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Speaker 1: for us before. Um fattest. He's a former CIA officer.

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Speaker 1: He ran in Maryland and fortunately he didn't get elected. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so we'd love to see more people in office, and then,

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Speaker 1: you know, from running for Congress and hopefully winning, it

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Speaker 1: could just go up from there and look at Ryan

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Speaker 1: Zinky who's now in the administration. Uh. So it's Crunchhaw

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Speaker 1: for Congress dot Com on Twitter Dan Crunchshaw t X

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Speaker 1: and then on Instagram Crunshaw for Congress. Uh And I'm

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Speaker 1: assuming people to donate right through the website, right crunched

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Speaker 1: Off for Congress dot Com. Absolutely, that's the best way

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Speaker 1: to donate. And we need the help and we've got

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Speaker 1: We've got every advantage you can think of in this

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Speaker 1: race except funding, going up against completely self funded millionaires,

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Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I don't think that's what had

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's what our country needs. I don't

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01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 1: think it's what Texas needs. So I truly every little

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Speaker 1: bit helps. Please crunch out for Congress dot com. That's awesome.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, any of those people who ever get in

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Speaker 1: touch with us and say there's not enough you know

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Speaker 1: that's running for office, here's your chance to put your

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Speaker 1: money where your mouth is. There you go, Well, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for that, guys, I really appreciate that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thanks for coming on, Dan. Good luck with the election,

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Speaker 1: and hopefully we can have you back on in the future.

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Speaker 1: I hope so absolutely. I'm always I'm always open to

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Speaker 1: the software podcast. Um, I love you guys. Thanks Dan, alright,

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01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 1: talk to um. Yeah, great having day on. I could

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Speaker 1: tell you he just really knows his stuff. And uh,

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01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of guys who just run in general, right,

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01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 1: who don't have the background that he does. And he

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01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 1: seems like he's like working his way up and and

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Speaker 1: it's just knowledge about a whole lot of things from

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Speaker 1: what you're talking about with that, you know, he he

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01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 1: clearly is educated on you know, the subject matter, and

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Speaker 1: you know, we see people running for office all the

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Speaker 1: time who don't have a clue. And I don't mean

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Speaker 1: I don't agree with every single thing Dan said, but

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01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 1: I think he's clearly educated. Um, he's not an ignorant person,

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Speaker 1: and he's obviously studied these issues in depth. So you know,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I agree, man Um. So wrapping things

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Speaker 1: up here, I was thinking throat puncture the week right

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01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,759
Speaker 1: before I was prepping for the show. I saw Joe R. Pile,

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Speaker 1: your favorite guy, trending on Twitter who was pardoned by

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Speaker 1: the way, Yeah, it was pardoned, And I was like,

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Speaker 1: why is he running? Why is he trending on Twitter?

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01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:55,599
Speaker 1: And it's he's officially running for Senate. It looks like

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Speaker 1: in Arizona for Jeff Flake seat. Um. For those don't know,

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01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 1: because it's been a couple of years at this point,

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Speaker 1: do you want to go back into your history when

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01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:07,679
Speaker 1: you bring it up all the time, Well, there's people,

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01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 1: there's new people listening every show, and you haven't been

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01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:13,719
Speaker 1: here in four months. So our paloe uh. He once

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01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 1: referred to me as a renowned anti government author. Um.

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01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 1: I don't really know why who or who on his

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01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 1: staff holding they say that. Um, I thought that was

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01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 1: pretty funny. Yeah, but yeah, Suriff Joe, he's a piece

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01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 1: of work. So when yeah, when I was thinking of

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01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 1: throat punch of the week, there's a lot of like

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01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:36,599
Speaker 1: nut jobs out there running for political officers. So there's him,

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01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:39,720
Speaker 1: and then there's also Jan Morrigan, who people have seen

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01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 1: on the news and and she's most known for having

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Speaker 1: a gun range in Arkansas and making it a Muslim

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Speaker 1: free zone. And I've even seen articles about people like

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01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 1: that we're almost you know, just darker skin that she

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01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 1: heavily questioned before allowing them to shoot at their range.

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01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 1: We're not Muslims. She sounds like a nice woman. I

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01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,560
Speaker 1: you know, have her over for dinner. Yeah, so, uh,

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01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,719
Speaker 1: Jan Morgan running for governor in Arkansas. So I didn't

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01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 1: even really discuss the see you before we did the podcast.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know, it's like throw a punch worthy

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01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 1: in your opinion, Yeah, they're both throw it punch worthy.

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01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 1: I mean it seems like racism is like the new

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01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,680
Speaker 1: like cheap heat, Like you know, you throw that out

1347
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 1: there and like people will you know, some of the

1348
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 1: worst elements in society will love you for it. The

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01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 1: thing is running like a Muslim free gun range in Arkansas.

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01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 1: How many Muslims are there? Even in Arkansas? How many?

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01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,880
Speaker 1: How many Muslims has this woman ever met an entire life?

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01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:33,600
Speaker 1: Probably it reminds me of like people in Arkansas or

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01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:36,640
Speaker 1: just let's just it doesn't have to be Arkansas anywhere.

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01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 1: You know, let's say in Middle America. People who hate Jews.

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01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 1: How many Jews have you met in your life? You know?

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01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 1: I remember learning about David Duke's campaign when he ran

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01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 1: for Congress, and uh, like a huge part of his

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01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 1: platform was going again to Jewish people and black people.

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Speaker 1: And I think there was someone on his campaign they

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01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 1: were like, you know, David sho focus more on the

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01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 1: black people because there's no Jews like you gets. So

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01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 1: it's like, how can you really blame these local problems?

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01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 1: We don't have any any people we can blame for

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01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,679
Speaker 1: our problems. Uh, we don't have any Jews here to blame,

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01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:13,080
Speaker 1: so let's focus on the other minorities. Yeah, it's I

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01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 1: think it just kind of said state of affairs man,

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Speaker 1: And I think that that it it. Uh, it appeals

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01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 1: to people who just their their lives are not going

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01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 1: the way that they wanted to, so they need to

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01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:25,640
Speaker 1: have someone to shift to blame to. Just the xenophobia

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01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 1: works for him. Yeah, and I think that seems to

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01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 1: be a big part of Sheriff Jose appeal. I mean

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01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 1: a lot of people do like him. But yeah, well

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01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 1: you see these sheriffs where sheriffs are an elected position,

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01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 1: and they cut these populist figures, you know, and they

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01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:43,639
Speaker 1: go and say they'll we're gonna get tough. And that's

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01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:45,960
Speaker 1: why you see those I laugh at them all the time.

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01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 1: You know those videos that the sheriff's make where it's

1379
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 1: like they have all their guys that wearing like bala

1380
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 1: clavas and they have the dude in the gilly suit

1381
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 1: and they're like listen and the thirteen, we're gonna come

1382
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 1: and get you. We're coming to your house. We're gonna arrestue.

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01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:02,640
Speaker 1: Not my county, it's not gonna have It's like the cheesiest,

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01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 1: stupidest thing. It's like, why are all these cops playing

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01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,839
Speaker 1: dress up wearing multi cam with like a R fifteen?

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01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:09,800
Speaker 1: So what's the point, Like, who do they think they're

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01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 1: scaring but it's because they're in an elected position, Like

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01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 1: it's not it's not for criminals, it's for voters. It's

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01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 1: probably there's like scared white people who watched that and

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01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 1: they're like, Oh, we need to elect him because he's

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01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:23,639
Speaker 1: going to crack down on the gangs. I would think

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01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 1: it does. Uh. I don't know it could be effective

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01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 1: on some level, right because where where we live, it's

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01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 1: the whole like sanctuary city thing, and they don't do

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01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 1: anything about illegal immigration where you know, if you live

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01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 1: probably were like Dan Crenshaw's running for in Texas, I

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01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 1: would assume that they probably cracked down in that a

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01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 1: little harder. I can tell you right now, I live

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01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:45,719
Speaker 1: in Port Washington, New York, Long Island. The house next

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Speaker 1: to me is like over a dozen illegal immigrants in

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Speaker 1: the house, and I'm positive, you know, a ton of

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01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 1: them don't speak English. Um, And I could assure they're

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01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 1: not gonna do anything about that type of thing. If

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Speaker 1: that same situation was in another state, yeah, they they'd

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01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 1: be you know, reporting that, would they? I think would

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01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 1: they spare the policeman power? I mean, I think if

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01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 1: you lived near honestly and like Arizona under like a

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01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 1: Sheriff JR. R. Pyle area. They would they would look

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01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 1: into that type of thing. I don't know, maybe, I

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01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 1: mean I would like to see some kind of like

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01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 1: actual like data on on these things. But this is

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01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 1: true anyway. Great having Dan Crunchhaw on UM. I really

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01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 1: do hope he does well. And the guys who have

1414
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:28,679
Speaker 1: met him from the site seemed to speak really highly

1415
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 1: of him just as a person. And that makes sense

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01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 1: that there's the Oakley connection because Jason Cannets are Drew

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01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 1: Wallace both worked at Oakley prior. Yeah. No, Dan seems

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01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 1: like a cool guy. UM, so let's see, let's see

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01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 1: where he goes with his campaign. Sure, man, any any

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01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 1: other stuff you're working on. I mean you just put

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Speaker 1: out put out this article, So any other pieces and

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01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 1: just wrap this up. I have another one, another story

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01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 1: of mind um actually kind of a spinoff from my

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01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:55,840
Speaker 1: work on the TV show. UM. I want to write

1425
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:58,680
Speaker 1: a little bit about Serbia UM, kind of like a

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01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:02,679
Speaker 1: retrospective on it. UM. So I think I'll probably start

1427
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:05,839
Speaker 1: working on that. And I gotta start writing more on

1428
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 1: my book. I actually have to write that damn thing.

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01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:11,639
Speaker 1: Get it out there. Yeah, I got like twenty words

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01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:13,479
Speaker 1: and I need to crank that thing out and this

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01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 1: will be up tomorrow from what I'm speaking. But tonight

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Speaker 1: is the second episode of your show. Correct? Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's true. Um, yeah, tonight is. It's Tuesday night, so

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Speaker 1: it'll be on tonight at tent on the Discovery Channel. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So if you're listening on Wednesday, I'm sure you could

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Speaker 1: check it out on the app on demand. UM. I

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Speaker 1: hope it continues to grow. Man, are you Are you

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Speaker 1: still seeing more people checking you out who aren't familiar

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Speaker 1: with software. Yeah, and I'm starting to get the emails

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Speaker 1: from people that, like Jack, that is not how you

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Speaker 1: build a death ray, Like you're doing it all wrong. Bro.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, man, thank you. Well that's an interesting

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Speaker 1: thing too, because when you got put on this show,

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01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 1: I think there was some response of like what is uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, Tesla have to do with Special Forces or

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Speaker 1: me Rangers, And they were wondering why you were a

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Speaker 1: part of a show like this because my background, well

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Speaker 1: I think they liked my military background. That's something they

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Speaker 1: can kind of use to sell the show and sell

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Speaker 1: me as a character on the show. But um, my

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01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 1: role on the show is to be an investigator, so

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Speaker 1: they tap into my background working as a journalist. I

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Speaker 1: dig it man and uh, yeah, if you haven't checked

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Speaker 1: it out yet, it's Tesla's death ray checking out on

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Speaker 1: the app on Discovery and yeah, that's it. Has always

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Speaker 1: That's great Club dot us and I should point out

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Speaker 1: um premium Create Club members. Our team room party is happening.

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Speaker 1: I know it's later than usual that we've announced it,

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Speaker 1: but January two in Las Vegas six pm. Uh, the

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Speaker 1: location will be announced If you're a member and all that,

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Speaker 1: and I know there's like a sign up on the

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Speaker 1: website rs VP. If you haven't seen that yet, Um,

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Speaker 1: the Odissean put it up, so yeah, check that out.

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Speaker 1: It's on software dot com. If you're a team, remember,

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Speaker 1: we hope to see you there. Uh, you know, if

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Speaker 1: you're in the area, even if you're not in Las

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Speaker 1: Vegas and you can make the drive out, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a great time. I'll be there. Uh, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: be there, right, Jack, Yeah, I'll be there. The Odissan

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Speaker 1: will be there, maybe with the Luculire mask on. Um,

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Speaker 1: I think got I think maybe b K right, James Powell,

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Speaker 1: a bunch of guys. Yeah, James will be there. Who else,

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Speaker 1: Scott Whittner, Steve from Special Operations, Mark Miller, he'll be there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: um so yeah, it should be a good group of guys,

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Speaker 1: a whole bunch of guys. And I always love seeing

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Speaker 1: the people who check out the website. And I'm used

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Speaker 1: to seeing kind of the East Coast people, uh, you

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Speaker 1: know when we have these events at Olney's, but it's

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Speaker 1: it's cool to see the West Coast people. If you're

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Speaker 1: out there for Shot Show, or even if you're not

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Speaker 1: out there for Shot Show, and you can make the

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Speaker 1: drive out or you can take the flight. Uh. It's

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Speaker 1: definitely worth it. And you know, I think it's open bar. Uh. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so check it out. And if you haven't seen this

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Speaker 1: stuff on soft Rep, you should be getting an email.

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Speaker 1: But if you are a team remember Premium Craig Club member,

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Speaker 1: you can email us uh soft rep dot Radio at

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Speaker 1: soft rep dot com and I'll shoot you over the link. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know you have to be a member, which we

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Speaker 1: check and all that. But yeah, that's really it, man. Um.

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Speaker 1: Next episode, we're gonna James Powell in studio. Oh, and

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Speaker 1: then I'm excited for next week. Andrew Wilka will be here.

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Speaker 1: I want to hear his take on Oprah wanting running

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Speaker 1: for president. I'm sure he'll have a lot to say

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Speaker 1: on that, Andrew will Yeah, he'll go ballistic. It's it's weird, man.

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Speaker 1: I'm not for since May. I've been working here full time,

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Speaker 1: so I don't get like Andrew's day. And I haven't

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Speaker 1: seen Andrew in a while. Yeah, every now and again,

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Speaker 1: I do tune in and hear what he's up to,

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Speaker 1: but I don't get his daily anger about what's going

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Speaker 1: on in the world, and and he's also gonna be

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Speaker 1: promoting he's back on TV, so he's he's really yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be on Conservative Review TV. That's why I

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Speaker 1: figured we'd have him on UM, which has a really

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Speaker 1: cool line up. Dan Bongino's on there too, who's been

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Speaker 1: on the podcast. Uh. And Andrew was kind of joking

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Speaker 1: around on Twitter about a CRTV like bench press who

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Speaker 1: could bench the most if they would have a contest,

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Speaker 1: because he was like, between me, Stephen Crowder, and Dan Mongino,

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Speaker 1: He's like, I think I would place third because crowd

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Speaker 1: is pretty jack too, and Bongino is like huge, well no,

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Speaker 1: not huge, but he's he's like a yeah, he's pretty ripped, dude. Um,

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Speaker 1: I mean, and also being a Secret Service, so assume

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Speaker 1: it's like a benefit to be in really good shape.

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Speaker 1: So the last I would have loved to get him

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Speaker 1: back on the last time we were on with him.

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Speaker 1: He gets very political, and I do like hearing about politics,

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Speaker 1: but I would I would like to hear more about

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Speaker 1: his experience as being former Secret Service. Yeah, me too,

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Speaker 1: because I think that's got to be an interesting job.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of which I don't want I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: say who it was, but there was another guy, not um,

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Speaker 1: not Dan, who was at one of will Cow's events

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Speaker 1: who was former Secret Service. Um, you know, he was

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Speaker 1: just there as an event. He's at the event. He's

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Speaker 1: a friend of Andrews and people at the site or

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Speaker 1: people at uh from his radio show on our site

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Speaker 1: and your friend, um, well, I'm not forgetting his last name,

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Speaker 1: Army Ranger, Matt Sanders. Yeah. Man, he went up to

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Speaker 1: him and like he didn't want to. He was a

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Speaker 1: former Secret Service but he wasn't like announcing this to

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Speaker 1: everybody and where he ran up to him and he

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Speaker 1: was like, dude, you guarded Bill Clinton. You were secrets

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Speaker 1: serve with your Bill Clinton. And I can tell this

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Speaker 1: guy was just like, dude, I'm I'm not in the

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Speaker 1: mood for this right now. It was pretty funny, cool alright,

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Speaker 1: So unless there's anything else, As always, thanks for checking

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Speaker 1: this out. Yeah, we'll do it again next week. Right,

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Speaker 1: We'll do it on Thursday. That's the beauty of doing

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Speaker 1: twice a week. So you'll see this up again on

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Speaker 1: on Friday, and then I also do the Power I

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