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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast wants Eric Davis in the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. Welcome to another edition of the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis. I come

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Speaker 1: to you from a virtual room filled with some heroes,

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal. If you are not baseball incline,

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Speaker 1: Eric Davis was five tool star Sincendi Red's baseball team,

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Speaker 1: West's favorite UH team, and injuries conspired to keep him

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Speaker 1: out of the Hall. But perhaps maybe as a nod

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Speaker 1: to us, the baseball gods and really the voters, now

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Speaker 1: you get dicey where you're counting on the voters for

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Speaker 1: a miracle. UH, put Eric Davis in. But great player

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Speaker 1: Eric Davis, I used to tease West. He was no

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Speaker 1: Darryl Strawberry, who was another UM superstar of that ILK

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Speaker 1: in the late eighties. But Eric Davis is probably a

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Speaker 1: more well rounded player. For some reason. I always just

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Speaker 1: when I think of the Reds, I just think how

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Speaker 1: silly it is um that their original name was the

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Speaker 1: Red Stockings, and how silly it remains that there are

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Speaker 1: two baseball teams named the Red Sox. In the White

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Speaker 1: Sox and there were the Red and the Reds are

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Speaker 1: the Red legs. I don't know, it just seems silly,

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Speaker 1: but I think socks is a is a newer stockings

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Speaker 1: was the word of the day back then it wasn't

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Speaker 1: as off putting. But I mean, I have a suggestion.

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Speaker 1: The Hall of Fame, the Baseball Hall of Fame, is

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Speaker 1: up in Cooper's town, correct, I mean a very I've

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Speaker 1: been there as a child, A very nice Um, it's

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Speaker 1: a nice part of the country, very serene. But maybe, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, we've got a lot of listeners, a lot

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Speaker 1: of power behind this show. Um. You know, it's kind

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Speaker 1: of in vogue to to storm places of security these days,

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Speaker 1: not all in good in good faith, but this would

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Speaker 1: be we storm Cooper's town and forced Eric Davis's presence

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Speaker 1: into the bill danger they if they do bus we

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Speaker 1: could have someone. I'm sure someone would be good at

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Speaker 1: that creating a I initially liked where you're going because

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Speaker 1: I thought you were going with grassroots campaign and start

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Speaker 1: building something on the internet in West's memory. And then

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Speaker 1: you went the other way, um, which maybe connects us

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Speaker 1: with another level of insurgency. I don't know, No, I'm

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Speaker 1: not I would say that that was that was inglorious.

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Speaker 1: What happened in our nation's capital. This would be brute

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Speaker 1: force with with heart behind it something I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know Greg would not be I'm not

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Speaker 1: I'm not shocked that Mark was the one to propose

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Speaker 1: an insurrection uh and and could be. We've we've often

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Speaker 1: said that Mark would be a great cult leader, um

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Speaker 1: if he needed to be. But I don't think this

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Speaker 1: is the spot for it. Plus it's still COVID times,

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Speaker 1: so all this, let's let's hold it off. I don't

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Speaker 1: you know the poor people that are they're working, You

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Speaker 1: know that it's a nice place there they're doing. We

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Speaker 1: can table it for now. I kind of feel bad too,

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Speaker 1: because that is your style, Mark, But like January six

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Speaker 1: kind of ruined insurgency a little bit. Also, I have

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Speaker 1: no history of I have no history of storming building.

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Speaker 1: It's not my style. I mean, I just think I

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Speaker 1: think it's I think it looks bad because of what's

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Speaker 1: But this would be like some sometimes when you storm

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Speaker 1: a building it's for a good reason. But but again

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Speaker 1: and might know. I think they're It's like the British

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Speaker 1: sleeping in the middle of the night. We we would

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Speaker 1: have our way. Um, speaking of the late great Chris Westling,

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Speaker 1: checking in on that go fund me not own. We

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Speaker 1: Lakisha and link. How about that? How awesome is that?

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Speaker 1: So if you haven't um made any nation, It's okay

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Speaker 1: if you don't, because obviously everyone has different financial situations.

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Speaker 1: But if you have anything to give and it doesn't

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Speaker 1: the best cause imaginable. So check that go fund me

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Speaker 1: out wherever uh you find a hero social media page. Um,

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Speaker 1: all right, still really weird. Three weeks tomorrow, Westcone, but

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Speaker 1: we sold you on as a podcast. Right now, we

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Speaker 1: have a really good show today. A bombshell peace dropped

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Speaker 1: in the Athletic. They do really good stuff over at

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Speaker 1: the Athletic. That that has been a successful experiment in

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Speaker 1: sports media if you ask me, not trying to get

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Speaker 1: a job there, I'm just saying I like good sports

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Speaker 1: journalism and I often find myself reading the Athletic and

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Speaker 1: three members of the athletic wrote a combined to write,

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Speaker 1: UMU expose if you will in the situation between Russell

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Speaker 1: going on in Seattle other than Russell Wilson being a

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Speaker 1: different perspective, Greg uh And we're gonna have Michael Sean

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Speaker 1: Dougar Douger, Well, we can clear that up. We'll have

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Speaker 1: to ask him in minutes to talk about what's going

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Speaker 1: on in Seattle because it's getting grim. Also a little

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Speaker 1: more QB talk, another big veteran involved with some drama

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Speaker 1: the end of the show, vision boards are big. Right now,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna build one for one season. But let's start

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Speaker 1: yes by hitting some quarterback news. Let's go Ricky, Mr

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Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh. Ben Roethlisberger. This has been a bit of

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Speaker 1: weeks about whether the uh soon to be thirty nine

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Speaker 1: it's happening. We got this. Uh D d Kinkawalla our

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Speaker 1: own edity on NFL network UM Wednesday reported that the

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Speaker 1: Steelers had confirmed they want him back, and then it

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Speaker 1: became public when Steelers President Art Rooney announced Big Ben

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Speaker 1: productive meeting that he had with this franchise quarterback. We

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Speaker 1: don't know what the contract numbers are, but honestly, who cares.

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Speaker 1: If your Steelers fan, UM, you're either happy or bummed

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Speaker 1: about this, Greg, I I think you had said that

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Speaker 1: So I'm curious if that's the type of deal they

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Speaker 1: a contract and he's expected to be back. I mean,

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Speaker 1: discontent with quarterbacks all over the place. Compared to some

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Speaker 1: of the situations UM bubbling out there, this feels more peaceful.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I I guess I I'm with you, Greg.

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Speaker 1: curious on what the details are, because that's the that's

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Speaker 1: It's an interesting scenario with Steelers fans in general, because

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Speaker 1: I think that there was definitely a pocket of them

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Speaker 1: But part of it is like, look, that's great, you

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Speaker 1: I think it's the right move to bring him back.

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Speaker 1: that is Kevin Culvert their GM's number one concern right

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Speaker 1: now and priority for the offseason, not not the quarterback

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch it now, um, but I will say

428
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Speaker 1: that I haven't seen that, but we have had the

429
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Speaker 1: star of that film's father, ice Cube, on this show.

430
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Speaker 1: So how about that that's a good job by us.

431
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 1: We nail that promoting the first of the movie though

432
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Speaker 1: it's it's it's even with that spoil I bet you this,

433
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 1: even if you watch it, even ho spoilt it for you,

434
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 1: you still want to be able to have first watch,

435
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 1: put together all the brand comers, and will be until

436
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:57,400
Speaker 1: the very end. Wow, this sounds like the new usual suspects. Um. Now,

437
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Speaker 1: let me ask you this, because you said this on

438
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 1: your podcast, you'd be surprised if he's being Russell Wilson,

439
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,880
Speaker 1: the Seahawks quarterback in two Now when you said that

440
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 1: with your co host, was that caught up in the

441
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,640
Speaker 1: heat of the moment or do you honestly believe that

442
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 1: this is something that's heading toward divorce now? I think

443
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 1: and anyone who's like written a big story, like in

444
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 1: generalism more reported one in radio or TV or whatever,

445
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,400
Speaker 1: you know that you left things on the cutting room floor,

446
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 1: and there's a million things that we heard and could

447
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: just didn't make the story right. We had to trim it,

448
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 1: and so like, I know how bad, and I know

449
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 1: that there's two things that we didn't put in the

450
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 1: story that I think are also really important. Russell had

451
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 1: a son in July, his first biological son. His Sierra

452
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 1: has a son fro another marriage. He named that son Win.

453
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 1: His name is Win. Like Harrington Wilson, Pete Carro wrote

454
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 1: a book in two thousand ten. The title of the

455
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 1: book is Win Forever. Like, these dudes are obsessed with

456
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Speaker 1: winning and they will do whatever it takes to win.

457
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 1: That's the one thing they're always going to be aligned on.

458
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: They don't do that, and they can't agree on why

459
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,200
Speaker 1: they're not winning, which is ultimately what the real disconnect

460
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 1: is here. Um, they can't coexist because they're too obsessed

461
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 1: with that idea of winning. Like so when I said, yeah,

462
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:13,959
Speaker 1: I don't think he'll be the quarterback in tween twenty two,

463
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 1: I'm projecting them not winning the super Bowl or getting there.

464
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: If they get there, then that's different. They win it. Obviously,

465
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 1: winning fixes a lot of things, but I think that's

466
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 1: the only thing that can fix the situation is winning.

467
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: You gotta win. These two dudes have made it known. Um.

468
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 1: The only way they could more make it known that

469
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 1: they want to win is they go to follow a

470
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: trademark like Chad Johnson didn't change their names. When your

471
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Speaker 1: name your firstborn son Win you care, right, and that's

472
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,919
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure and only I think that's the

473
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 1: only thing I can fix the situation right now. So

474
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Speaker 1: but you think next year? So you do? You do

475
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: think this is almost setting and I and I heard

476
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 1: this um from someone just asking about this today too.

477
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,640
Speaker 1: They thought it was setting the table for next year,

478
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 1: that this is all priming the pump a little bit,

479
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Speaker 1: and that a trade would be maybe less likely this year,

480
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 1: but more likely next year. And I think it's yes

481
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: to answer that. And then it's like a think about

482
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: the narrative construction here. If the Seahawks do come up

483
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 1: short next year, who is everyone gonna blame? You're blame

484
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, right, Like, yeah, exactly, Pete Carroll of the Seahawks.

485
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 1: They're gonna look at and say, you guys didn't give

486
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson what he wanted. You guys are idiots, right,

487
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 1: So now he wants to leave. Well that's right or wrong.

488
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 1: They've done a good job. And I mean rest of

489
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: his camp of like putting that as the message, like

490
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 1: we are the victims here, guys. I am the superstar

491
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 1: quarterback here who has played with bottom five old lines,

492
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: Like I want to see like seven of his nine years,

493
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 1: and that's just not good enough. At their bottom, like

494
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: half of the league, all the time in the old

495
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 1: line spending other than which year when they've spent the

496
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:46,800
Speaker 1: most on the old line in the whole league? What

497
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: they do that year? Win the Super Bowl? So like

498
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: there's all these arguments, um, that they've put out there

499
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: and used it like like a presidential campaign. So if

500
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: we're right back here next year the Seahawks weren't in

501
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, Um, whose fault is it gonna look like?

502
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: And then the Seahawks are gonna have to get rid

503
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 1: of um. The best quarterback and franchise history. I would

504
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: ask this because I mean it's this Carol Russell Wilson

505
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 1: power struggle. And I love that you met, like the

506
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: the title of the whole thing is about power and control,

507
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: and I mean this story is as old as time.

508
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: But then you got John Snyder um involved in this too,

509
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: and and some of the juiciest stuff in there was

510
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: that John Snyder was prepared to draft Patrick Mahomes, that

511
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 1: they were very high on Josh Allen. I mean that's

512
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: the kind of thing that if you're Russell Wilson you're thinking,

513
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,679
Speaker 1: excuse me, um, I mean, is he is he account

514
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 1: who's holding him accountable? Because when you talk about the

515
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 1: offensive line not coming together coming together over the course

516
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: of seven or eight seasons, I look at the front

517
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: office in the GM two and they've certainly had some

518
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: against the grain draft picks over the year. Yeah, and

519
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: that's where Pete Carroll actually takes ladder that blame too,

520
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: because he oversees personnel. He was hired before John. All Right,

521
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 1: he's essentially John's boss. John can't make a pick um

522
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Speaker 1: until like until Pete. Okay is I think Russell was

523
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 1: like an example of that in you know, John, this

524
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: from Wisconsin worked for the Packers and here comes this

525
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: just five tin, like a guy who's bawling at Wisconsin,

526
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: and John's like, hey, we should take this guy. But

527
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 1: no matter how much John wanted him, if Pete was

528
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: like no, then they wouldn't have took Russell. Al Right,

529
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 1: Like Pete has two okay everything. So yeah, the Seahawks

530
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,439
Speaker 1: have taken I think more alignment in the draft than

531
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 1: any team since I want to say, or maybe it's

532
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: not very good at it all right, So that that

533
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: goes to not only power of control. It's like a

534
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: lack of faith. You know. If if I'm Russell and

535
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, Pete, can we get some better alignments,

536
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 1: Like yeah, chill, we got this, It's like, well, no,

537
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 1: you don't. You don't got it. Like maybe maybe I

538
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 1: should have some control over the situation. It's like, well,

539
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: no you can't. And now we have again, like you

540
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: said old, this time power and control driving two people

541
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: away from one another. They haven't had a great defense

542
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 1: in five years. And if if Pete Carroll wants to

543
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 1: remember life without Russell Wilson, just throw on some Chaz

544
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: Whitehurst tape, you know, or or Matt the Matt FLINNERO

545
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: which never really happened, or even Arvirus who played Okay,

546
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: but it's like, man, you better be careful what you

547
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 1: wished for, um boss and work by Mike and also

548
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: Mike Sando Jason Jenks at The Athletic please check out

549
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 1: that article if you want to be informed in this situation.

550
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: And before we say goodbye, Mike, I'm gonna check out

551
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: Donna Thieves. You definitely need to. I watched a bunch

552
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: of heist movies over the last month, and that was

553
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: one of my favorite been one for you, by the way,

554
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants, Um too, is that's one

555
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: where you you on the third or fourth viewing, the

556
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: layers become evident. It's like cool and where are the pants?

557
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 1: It's a huge highest picture. Um Uh, Mike, I heard

558
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: you say pineapples on pizza is a good thing. I

559
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: don't know where you're from originally, Mike, I don't want

560
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: to judge, but that's that's a terrible take. But I'm

561
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 1: gonna give you the platform here to explain why pineapples

562
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: on pizza is a good thing. See pizza Like the

563
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: reason why Chiefs Pizza, I think is so great because

564
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: it's just like it's a blank canvas. You can just experiment.

565
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: You can do whatever you want with it. You can

566
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: get creative and there really are no limitations. There's another

567
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: another movie reference. Um it's Cuba Gooding Junior. Cuba Gooding

568
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: Junior movie. I can't remember the name at the moment,

569
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: but he's trying to pitch everyone to think outside the box.

570
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: And he's like, you guys want to think outside the box.

571
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 1: Which you really need to realize is there is no box.

572
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: Just let you let your mind wonder and like when

573
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: I thought I was like I saw when I was

574
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: a kid, and it was just like, yeah, it's pretty trippy.

575
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: Um dogs too, Yeah, it's a it's a it's a

576
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: great like way to look at like pizza, hot dogs,

577
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 1: um just anything like I debate all the time my

578
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 1: friends like where the hot dogs a sandwich? It's just

579
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 1: it's just great. You can just free your mind when

580
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: it comes to food, like let your mind room. Put

581
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 1: some pineapples on that pizza. Man, it's gonna taste great.

582
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: I'm with you. We get we get pineapple in a

583
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,479
Speaker 1: hall opinion in our house all the time. I'm all

584
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: about right, I'm listening. I'll be cool about this. I

585
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: just feel some some foods are sacred, pizzas one of them.

586
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: But listen, that's why it's a great world. We can

587
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: do what we want and eat what we want. And Mike,

588
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: thank you for joining the show, and would love to

589
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: have you on again because you're good at your job.

590
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: If I come back, I'm definitely gonna have all my

591
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: books right and right. I'm not gonna be lacking next time.

592
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: Thank you. Guys were having awesome stuff. Michael Sewan Dugar

593
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: Uh you can follow him on Twitter and yes again

594
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: over at the Athletic. You know he also within um

595
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: that report by the Athletic h Russell Wilson's camp had

596
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: broached trade destinations with Seattle, excuse me, with Seattle to

597
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, Jets, Saints and Raiders. And then right before

598
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: we came on today, um Adam Schefter reported so as

599
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: this thing continues to mushroom that Wilson has not demanded

600
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: a trade according to his agent, but Wilson told the

601
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: Seahawks he really wants to play in Seattle. If a

602
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: trade were considered, the only teams he would go to

603
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: are the Cowboys, Saints, Raiders, and Bears. First of all,

604
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: Jets aren't on that list. But I don't know if

605
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: that's that's an issue for me personally. Um the uh,

606
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: it's so transparent, this drama that's playing out, and Russell

607
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: Wilson being involves a big reason why because that's just

608
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: kind of his thing. Um. But it does surprise me,

609
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: even after that conversation again where I went to bed

610
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: last night and where we are now that this thing

611
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: is as bad as it is, it's it kind of

612
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: all blew up here. Well and to Mike's point. I

613
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: think I feel like now Russell Wilson has been trying

614
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: to drop these bread comes pretty hardcore. You know, he's

615
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: been trying. It's almost like people weren't really listening because

616
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: people like us think, well, why would they ever get

617
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: rid of Russell Wilson. You know, I remember even talking

618
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,239
Speaker 1: about it when he went on Jimmy Fallon and that

619
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: was a little bit of a story and they wrote

620
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: about that. It's like, well, this isn't really gonna happen,

621
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: you know, this isn't too serious, but it's coming. It's

622
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: coming there for a reason. It reminds me of that

623
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: SI article where like it was all his bros. And

624
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 1: it was like Entourage, Like, we're not Entourage, but that

625
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: is my favorite show. That's what Russ said. And he's

626
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: still got the same he's still got the same agent

627
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: as he did back then, and it just I know,

628
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: you know, I guess the conventional wisdom is maybe it's

629
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: next year, but I don't know, this seems pretty ugly

630
00:30:55,640 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: that another year like that. That seems to me. It's

631
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: pretty it's pretty rough. And the calendar though, too, I mean,

632
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: no I get it. Logic says maybe emotions subside a

633
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: little bit over the course of the offseason and and

634
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: you calm down. But the whole like um political way

635
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: of looking at it, Like the messaging. I thought, that's

636
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: a brilliant way to put it, that he's got these

637
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: like campaign points. It's like, how how is that flying

638
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: with teammates? You know, how is that flying with his

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Speaker 1: offensive line? Because I'm sure some of them are thinking, Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: tom Brady's never taking those sacks. Rusts like, yeah, you're

641
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: right that you could have put the worst offensive lines

642
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: around Peyton, Manny and Tom Brady and they would cut

643
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: that sack total in fifth. You know, by it's just

644
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: a fact like quarterbacks, Uh, sacks are a quarterbacks. It's both.

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Speaker 1: I mean both things can be true. It can be

646
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Speaker 1: the offensive line, but it can also be Russ And

647
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're not loving that. And you see some

648
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: of his old teammates and that was like the huge

649
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: last story about Russell Wilson was that s I store

650
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: where the defense and the codline of Russell Wilson. There's

651
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: just a lot there. I loved it. This is one

652
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: of those stories I'll remember. I feel like this story

653
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: is really planting a flag, you know, in his career

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00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: it's complicated too, though you mentioned that, and everyone knows

655
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson holds onto the ball and that's gonna drive

656
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: up sack totals and make an offensive line look worse.

657
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: And that's certainly fair. But there is the other side

658
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: of it. The reason he's gonna go to the Hall

659
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: of Fame one day, one day is he is a

660
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: magician in the pocket. He's made so many great plays.

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00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: And there's the reason he's been playing for nine years

662
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: and they've gone to the playoffs eight years, and he's

663
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl and nearly one another. He's a

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Speaker 1: special talent. And I think one one thing that they

665
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Speaker 1: um hit on uh in the article is that, like

666
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: they the wet Rust cook era, as short as it

667
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 1: was in was incredible. And then over the course of

668
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: one bad game that led to a sit down with

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Speaker 1: Pete Carrol or Carol saddled up next to him and

670
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: basically told him to get his s together. And then

671
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: the next game they didn't play well either, and then

672
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: it was over that opportunity that he had been waiting

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Speaker 1: for to leave the offense and the way he believes

674
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: he can started off on a record setting pace, they

675
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: go through a little valley and then it's taken away

676
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: from him, and I can understand that being the source

677
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: of a lot a lot of frustration and anger for

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Speaker 1: Wilson as well. I could see that. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: at the same time, there's dk Metcalf saying that defense

680
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: has just figured out what they were doing. Um. But Greg,

681
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,719
Speaker 1: I think you make a great point about the if

682
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Speaker 1: this is going to go on even for another year,

683
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: that we're a long way away from um Dan Marino

684
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: buying his offensive lineman is atone or gloves, which has

685
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: been escalated to you know, quarterbacks treat their lineman like

686
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: kings because your life is in their hands on that field,

687
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: and you've opened the offseason by setting every one of

688
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: them on fire. I this just feels um like it's

689
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: a campaign, but it's a campaign that doesn't have a

690
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: wide opening for a fruitful, happy ending. I would be

691
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: the Seahawks era feels a little bit over to me now.

692
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: A lot else I'm just saying, like it's like this

693
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: is we're a long way away from Carol and Russell

694
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: Wilson being attached to the hip, and everything just seems

695
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: so uh, you know, peaceful and hunky dorry. I hate that,

696
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 1: hate that word, but um for so long and now

697
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 1: it just feels so messy and it's so public. It's

698
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 1: fascinating though it's really a great story. It's a great story.

699
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: But and I don't think you should ever bad mouth

700
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: or use your platform or and happiness with the team

701
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: to chop down teammates, which he is doing on some

702
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: indirect level. But also, yeah, this isn't Joe Thomas and

703
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: you know, Kevin Maui and Quentin Nelson on this line

704
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: in Seattle, like he wants better guys there. He does

705
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: a lot a lot of those guys there because he

706
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: doesn't think they can play. Brady's ruined it. Brady's ruined

707
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: this for everyone. Lebron a little bit too, But that

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00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,919
Speaker 1: basketball is such a different sport because I I don't

709
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: blame him for using the power that he has. He has,

710
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: he has some absolutely good points. None of this would

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00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: probably be even be happening if the Seahawks had a

712
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: top eight defense at any point in the last five years.

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00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: They've been totally mediocre. If they had a good defense,

714
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: we're not talking about it. But I think Brady, you know,

715
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: has given this idea, especially in football, that's so wrong.

716
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: It's like, not everyone gets to win. Bro. It's like

717
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is one of the greatest of all time,

718
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: he hasn't been a Super Bowl in a decade. Ben

719
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger same, Drew Brees went one, and it's just like

720
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: so hard to put everything together that makes you win.

721
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: It's not saying anyone's right or wrong, but it's just

722
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: so hard. Tom Brady ruined a lot of things for

723
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: a lot of people, um, including my twenties and thirties.

724
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 1: What the next thing coming here, by the way, is uh,

725
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: and it's put it in stone. Okay, I might even

726
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: put a sandwich on it, but I won't. The Seahawks

727
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: are going to disappear from his social media accounts very soon,

728
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: and I love it and I will also the whole

729
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: idea of New York not being on that second list.

730
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: There was that nugget that Sierra, an entertainer who is

731
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 1: attracted to either l A or the Big Apple, longs

732
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: to be in New York to some degree. So and

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00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: the Jets, by the way, if you're all these teams

734
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Speaker 1: that want to trade for Russell Wilson, you're not gonna

735
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: ship a bunch of like late round picks. I mean

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00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: the Jets could offer Seattle a fresh news start. I

737
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: never would rule the Jets out. You know what they

738
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: could do. They can say, hey, you know those two

739
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: first round picks you stupidly gave us for a safety

740
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: will come back to you. Give us a fack. Let's fly.

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00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: I'll give it. You know it would hurt, but we'll

742
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: give you. You know, Quinin And by the way, we

743
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: got you gotta give him. You gotta give him overall.

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00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: If you give them number two overall, you could that

745
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: is that's the trump card that the Jets have right

746
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 1: now that they won't You know, if you're a Jets fan,

747
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: I hope that they have normally that that that if

748
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,919
Speaker 1: they want to make the big move at quarterback, now

749
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 1: is the time. Because you have that number two overall pick,

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00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: whether it's Watson or Wilson, you've got that. You you

751
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: might not ever have that again. Stick a PINX. That's

752
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: gonna come up a little bit later. Um, all right,

753
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: I don't Ricky the den of thieves thing? Are you?

754
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: You're younger than it? Are you plugged in on den

755
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: of thieves? No? I haven't seen it. I'm a little

756
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: nervous that Mike is going to catch some heat for,

757
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: you know, pulling the like Kevin Spacey at the end

758
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: of usual suspects Like you usually don't give away the

759
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: big twist. Um, maybe you could put like a spoiler

760
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: alert and post there or something a little bit more

761
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: time big like give away though it was sort of yeah,

762
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: it sounded like it was though suddenly it's him versus Netflix.

763
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: His name becomes elevated and magnified. I mean, it's it's

764
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: a power move and I did it. It would be

765
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: funny if we stopped the show right there and Ricky's

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00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: voice or Dan's voice comes in, we insert it and

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00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: it says attention if you plan to listen watch the

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00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: you know movie Den of Thieves. Ever, uh, Mike, Mike

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00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: is going to spoil it for you. Yeah, okay, well

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00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: let's do that what you just said, and I'll put

771
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: it before too, and then you guys can hear it

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00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 1: again right now in real time. Okay, Well, it sounds

773
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: like our listeners are the ones who lose out, but

774
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: sometimes that's how the first time. And don't and one

775
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: last thing in this whole quarterback talk Deshaun Watson tweeted today, Um,

776
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 1: loyalty is everything. Don't you ever caps ever forget it?

777
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: And the Texans can play their little cute game right

778
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: now and and act like they can just ignore this

779
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: and it's gonna go away. It's not gonna go away.

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00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: The power dynamic is shifted in our and our league.

781
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: And if you, if you're superstar, is unhappy, it is

782
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: going to tear your franchise apart unless you somehow um

783
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 1: fix things. And if you can't fix things, you gotta

784
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: move them. Uh. And and we'll see if Seattle gets

785
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,439
Speaker 1: to that point, but Houston certainly seems like they're at

786
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: that point. And maybe they're just in denial right now.

787
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: I mean, in speaking of sandwich bets, I had one

788
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: on Big Ben as the Houston Texans Week one starter.

789
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: I will be paying you in sandwich. That was easy.

790
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: That was That was that was like that was like

791
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: a drunken moment with no alcohol involved. I don't know

792
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: what I blacked out mentally. All right, good stuff, All right,

793
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: let's let's get into it. Vision board. What's a vision board?

794
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: It's big right now, okay, And I'll give you a

795
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 1: little bit of an example of a vision board, um

796
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: being successful. My wife, the ladies are into this. Now.

797
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: I don't wanna get tagged as being a sexist, like,

798
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,919
Speaker 1: oh no, men like vision boards to sure. I'm sure

799
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 1: there are plenty of men crafting vision boards at this

800
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: very moment, but the ladies love the vision board. My wife,

801
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: my wife, the wonderful Emily, she put together a vision

802
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: board because we were looking for our first house. And

803
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 1: guess what not two months after she put together the board,

804
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: we found our house. So I feel like that is

805
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: it works. I mean, there it is. There is the

806
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: proof in the pudding, speak it into existence. That's what

807
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: it's about. It's about taking something a wish of belief,

808
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: a hope, and if you put it out there as

809
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: something tangible physical, if you see it, you you can

810
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: believe in it and then you can achieve it. So

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00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: with that in mind, we were thinking, what if we

812
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: put together a NFL vision board for things that we

813
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: really just want to see, we want it, and we'll

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00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 1: put together a college We're all gonna We're not doing

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Speaker 1: our own vision board. This is the Around the NFL

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00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 1: podcast vision board for keep in One. We're looking ahead

817
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: to this season and let's get going, Greg, I want

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00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: you to start off the artwork here and I want

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00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: you to imagine if you're listening to this, Greg, we

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00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: have a big piece of paper here and and Greg

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00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,399
Speaker 1: is you know, cut out something. This is a lot

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00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: of cutouts quotes from magazines. Greg has cut out like

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00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: the picture and like his vision is. He's putting the

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00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: first piece of the blue stick out onto the board.

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00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: It's beautiful, the big white uh board that he got

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00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: from blicks Um art gallery or art supplies. And Greg,

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00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: just so you know, to take it a little further,

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Speaker 1: he's wearing overalls, no shirt underneath one of the overalls undone,

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00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: so you see maybe even a little nipples popping out.

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Speaker 1: And he's got a bandana, okay, barefoot corduroy overalls. Mm hmm, delectable.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to mid nineties women's fashion. Love that stuff.

832
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:44,439
Speaker 1: I was thinking, like me more and ghosts. I'm thinking,

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00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: yeah more, just like high school girlfriends and stuff. I

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00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: mean I did, I was a big fan. Um I'm

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00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: I'm I cut out a picture and uh it's just

836
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: a one man of one NFL player and it's a

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00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: picture of Justin Herbert pre haircut um cocking back to

838
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 1: throw to throw a nice past and uh, I cut

839
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: around it, putting that in the corner here. And for me,

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00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: I looked at this more like a personal vision board,

841
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: not what I want to see, but more um what

842
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: I want out of my and Herbert to me represents,

843
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: um the love of the game that I just love

844
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: watching this guy play. So whether it's with this podcast

845
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: or with our writing or with our my TVs, our

846
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: TV stuff, I just want to like tap into that

847
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: because more drafts for preview shows. Absolutely just like he's

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00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: the guy to me that connects me. And I'm not

849
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: saying it's all about Herbert, it's just what he represents.

850
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: He's the guy that connects connects me, especially last year,

851
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: which was not an easy NFL season for anyone, um,

852
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: but he was the one last season that sort of

853
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: connected me and kept me close to that love of

854
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 1: the game and just love of the sport. And so

855
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 1: for me, that's like and he represents and I'm putting

856
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: on the vision board. I like it. I like that.

857
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: I love it. And Herbert was yes a shining star

858
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: this season. And it's funny because we much handwringing and

859
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: the Chargers do still absolutely have their work cut out

860
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: for them and really carving out a niche in this market.

861
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: And we'll see once people are going and actually going

862
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: back to the stadiums what kind of crowds they draw.

863
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: But one of the things that everybody was hammering over

864
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: and over again, like who is the star that you

865
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: can sell the Chargers in Los Angeles? And well, here

866
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: he is. He comes in. You nailed the draft pick,

867
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: You absolutely nailed that draft pick, and Dolphins fans are

868
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,240
Speaker 1: nodding their heads solemnly. And now you have to hope

869
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: that he just continues to build off that season. All right,

870
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 1: I'll go next. Um, I'm really i gotta be totally

871
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 1: honest with you. I'm struggling. I'm struggling with this because

872
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: this whole thing around my team with the quarterback. Well,

873
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: first of all, what are you wearing? Um, I'll let

874
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: you decide. But while all you think or unless you have,

875
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: you do your thing, and I'll do it all right.

876
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: So I know, like Greg, what you're saying about Donald

877
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: makes so much sense logically. It really does that that

878
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: what he's put on tape over three seasons is more

879
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: than enough evidence that the Jets, if they have a

880
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: chance to to move him off the roster for a

881
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 1: nice draft pick and start fresh, do it. I know that,

882
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: And I also know from years of history as a

883
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: fan that whenever I fall for a quarterback, inevitably they

884
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 1: let me down. Um, and the belief I had him

885
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: most recently, I would say Mark Sanchez, even Ryan Fitzpatrick

886
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: going into his second season there, Um, you know Browning, Nagel,

887
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: You you go up and down the list, you could

888
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: find so many guys, Bryce, Petty, even Harvard. Some thoughts

889
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: about never the kid from Penn State. It should be said,

890
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: I never thought he could play. Um Hackenburg come out

891
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: to hack Man. So you know, it's like I tend

892
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: to fall in love with the idea of the young

893
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: uh Savior and then I get let down. So starn

894
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: Old was to me the biggest chance at number three

895
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: overall pick um, So I should I should not be

896
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 1: cutting out his photo right now in Jets green and

897
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: White and putting him on the vision board. And yet

898
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: I am, because in my vision all this talk for

899
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,240
Speaker 1: people that that understand the quarterback position in the sport,

900
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:32,959
Speaker 1: that think he could play, and just got the roster

901
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: for aw deals, Why wouldn't I take the number two

902
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: overall pick, and instead of taking another swing in the draft,

903
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 1: why wouldn't I rebuild the roster with massive smart trades

904
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: with a g M. I trust you have the Falcons

905
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: picking it four, you have the Eagles at six, you

906
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: have the Panthers at eight, all teams, and I'm just

907
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: naming three logical ones that would die to get into

908
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: number two and take a young quarterback like his Ck

909
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: Wilson or Justin Phills or what have you. And then

910
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: I could use that bounty over the next couple of

911
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: years to build a monster roster and then give Sam

912
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: Donald a chance with a better coach and a better offense.

913
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: And here's the kicker here, And I'll shut up in

914
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: a second. If Donald stinks this year, it doesn't sink

915
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,919
Speaker 1: the franchise necessarily. You still have two first round picks

916
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: at least next year, and you could then try to

917
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: address things. My vision is Sam Donald's there with a

918
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: much better roster and a real shot. And I know

919
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: it's not the right way to look at things, but

920
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: I can't help but think that makes sense for this

921
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: team given their dearth of talent. I love it because

922
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: I think you have to factor in what I think

923
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 1: is going to be a Coach of the Year type

924
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: coaching staff with Robert Sala and Mike Lafleur. Just look

925
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: what the Niners accomplished on offense when Jimmy g went down.

926
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: I think that the way that they treat the quarterback

927
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: in the run game and everything else. I mean, the

928
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: Jets don't have all those pieces, but there are some

929
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: mock drafts out there that have the Jets moving down

930
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: a bit and taking like the number one tight end

931
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: in the draft, which is a key position for that.

932
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,439
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that it's just like but to your

933
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: theory though, that maybe you just don't assess into everything

934
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: about Sam Donald based on the train wreck he's been

935
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: um that he's barely survived, that maybe there is a

936
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: new life for him, and I think that's an interesting idea.

937
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: This is this is where sharing the vision board is

938
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 1: because if Dan comes down and you know, checks out

939
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: the vision board in the middle of the night and

940
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 1: someone slash Donalds like face, It's like, everyone's gonna look

941
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: at me. You know, everyone's gonna look at me. I know,

942
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: I know. But like I said, I'm not disagreeing with you.

943
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 1: Everything you're saying makes sense. But there is a case

944
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: to be made on my side of things. Well, if

945
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,439
Speaker 1: I want to be real, if I want to be real,

946
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: like as a Patriots fan, yes, do that. That's my

947
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: vision too. That's kind of what I would hope for. Oh,

948
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: I would love for Donald to be good so amazing, Fine,

949
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: I can think. I'm not saying I I don't I have.

950
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: We've done this long enough. That's like, I never feel

951
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: that confident in anything. Um, but like he can be fine,

952
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 1: but like always typically been as safe as it gets.

953
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: What are the what are the odds of him being

954
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: a top five quarterback? Ever? That seems like that seems

955
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 1: like a big reach to me. That's my thing. That's alright,

956
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 1: top five, that's pretty hardcore. I mean I would take

957
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: top ten, but that's a big reach right now too.

958
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: All right, it's a mark. Well, I I don't have

959
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 1: a full picture, but I know that you're wearing one

960
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: of those things that became popular like eight or nine

961
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: years ago at live games or in other scenarios where

962
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 1: like a grown man would wear like the giant furry

963
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 1: animal on his head, remember that whole movement. I don't

964
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: know what happened with that, but I'd see you in

965
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: that with like a nice Teetos and soda. No, I've

966
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: got it that you're actually wearing the same T shirt

967
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,720
Speaker 1: you're wearing now, just you know, playing nice T shirt.

968
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 1: But then you're wearing jams shorts. Do you guys remember

969
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:02,240
Speaker 1: jams jams that was like my wardrobe, really really bright

970
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: color shorts. Maybe like a Swatch watch on his on

971
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: his wrist, wearing this watch and now we'll throw it

972
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: to you, Mark, I already know what you're wearing. Um.

973
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: This also became popular about ten years ago at sporting events.

974
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,439
Speaker 1: In fact, that's where I thought you were going. Remember

975
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: when guys started showing up in the full green body

976
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: spandex including the head, and they were they'd be nude

977
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: underneath and it would just be like nothing left to

978
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: the imagination. And even your face is covered in this

979
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: green spandex outfit. That that's what you're doing in your

980
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: private home while you're putting together your vision board. I mean,

981
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: I see Greg's face right now, But I'm concerned that

982
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: part of me really likes that concept and idea. I

983
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: don't know if I like it hanging out with the

984
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: three of us, but um, it's compelling because get your arrested.

985
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: But it's what you like, it's what makes you feel safe.

986
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'll take your word on that, um I,

987
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: but mine is you know, some of these vision boards

988
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: they've got, you know, there's a verbal, there's a word

989
00:49:58,200 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: aspect to it, because it's something you want to just

990
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: remember in your head. And I previously um banned this phrase,

991
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna unbann it um in this one situation

992
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: because I think it's a powerful reminder of where Aaron

993
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: Rodgers could be in the future. And I and here's

994
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 1: the thing. It's a cutout. Um. The word is my

995
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: office for the day, and the cutout is so Fi Stadium,

996
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 1: And it's Aaron Rodgers making it clear in his mind

997
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: from here to the end that he will be playing

998
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl next year and so Fi Stadium

999
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: that there is no other destination for Aaron Rodgers. Still

1000
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: when I talk about every Sunday my office for the day,

1001
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: well because look, I think at this point there were

1002
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: times when I was annoyed by the whole Aaron Rodgers thing,

1003
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: mainly because people just like fast track the Packers to

1004
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and every prediction all the time, and

1005
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: they would invariably crumble in the NFC title game. And

1006
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 1: you know I've mentioned it before. It's like every January

1007
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: of like Dom Capers and his hair flying up in

1008
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,280
Speaker 1: the booth as the defense is crumbling in the offense

1009
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: can't do anything about it. Well, things are a little different.

1010
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 1: This team is different. NFC championships in a row, right,

1011
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: I that's what I'm saying, Like this time around, hair,

1012
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: his hair would have been flying up in this time around.

1013
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: There can be. It is seek and destroy. And my

1014
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: office for the day is where he will get to

1015
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: when he gets that promotion, to the right place he

1016
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: should be working, which is so Fi Stadium in January,

1017
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 1: and he every Sunday until then, He's gonna have to

1018
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 1: be a businessman with his briefcase. He's gonna have to

1019
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 1: prepare his documents, file his reports, do it well. Be

1020
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 1: a guy that shows up all day long, and you

1021
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: wind up in l A next February, winning the Super

1022
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: Bowl and putting that narrative that he's one of these

1023
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,720
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that's gonna go down with just one Lombardi Trophy

1024
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: to bet. I like when you because I obviously can't

1025
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: do the same thing. I like when you you. You

1026
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: rain yourself in and you say, I'm not going to

1027
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 1: talk about the Browns, and then I'm gonna pretend like

1028
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for anyone else, including Aaron Rodgers. I like that. Well,

1029
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: I call the last year they can play him against

1030
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: each other. Then you would do it for the Brownses.

1031
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 1: It's fine. I don't know he really they do play

1032
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: each other next year, so that will be part of

1033
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 1: the journey. Cut a week for Mark flaming Aaron Rodgers

1034
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 1: and the Packers for some reason, I don't know why,

1035
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 1: but it'll Mark while we're here. While we're here, because

1036
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: you did have some really strong takes on this, and

1037
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: I hope you don't ran it in on the podcast.

1038
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:30,240
Speaker 1: The engagement with the actress Cheyenne Woodley of Big Little

1039
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 1: Lies and many other projects. Very talented woman. Um your

1040
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: thoughts on the Penning Metschels, I, I just have questions.

1041
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 1: I'd like to learn a lot more. I it feels

1042
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: to me um and you know and who I know nothing,

1043
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 1: So let's start right there. I'm not coming at you

1044
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: with information. It just feels to me seeing pretty little nontext. No,

1045
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: it feels a little, um, a little suspicious that you know,

1046
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 1: it's all this thing about they met during the pandemic.

1047
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,439
Speaker 1: She's never heard of football, which is fine, that's fine,

1048
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: that's fine. That part of it I don't know. But

1049
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: it's just like when I think of Aaron Rodgers and

1050
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: everything about him, like what about what she said about him?

1051
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 1: Is how they link up. I would love to hear

1052
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 1: an Erica. If you cut this for social I will

1053
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 1: drive my car off a cliff. So I don't even

1054
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: think about it. I'd love to know Erica's take on

1055
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 1: this too, But like, am I wrong? Does this seem like? Oh, yeah,

1056
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: of course this makes total sense. They didn't even know

1057
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: each other five months ago or whatever, and now they're

1058
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,439
Speaker 1: like and when I just I want to know more,

1059
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: they'll leave it at that. And I probably was a

1060
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 1: little stronger on text. You were text it was totally different.

1061
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: Am I am? I like a lone wolf with this.

1062
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: I just I find what do you? It's a total

1063
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 1: publicity move. I mean that's how I feel. I mean,

1064
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: he's he's dated famous people. But that's the circle, as in,

1065
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: you know, let let people love you know. Colleen and Ganza,

1066
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: they were famous people in Philly. They got they moved

1067
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 1: in after three months they were telling I got I

1068
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 1: got engaged in out that about as quick as as

1069
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: I mean. This is a classic situation where Greg makes

1070
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,879
Speaker 1: friends and I burn Bridges and I just it's on appealing. Well, yeah,

1071
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: me and Woodley are gonna be you know, hitting the

1072
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: part three. I don't Well, she doesn't know what that is.

1073
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: She's like, he's a football guy. It's like, okay, please,

1074
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: what is the um? Ricky? You would know? This is

1075
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: the type of thing I feel like, you know, what

1076
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:27,800
Speaker 1: is that celebrity dating site Riot? So there's this site

1077
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: UM that you have to get invited to and it's

1078
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: basically a housing area for um wealthy slash well known people.

1079
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: What's that it's tender for to get verified? I got

1080
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: on it a couple of years ago. Actually, somehow I got.

1081
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: I don't think they're getting Woodley Rogers level people to

1082
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:56,919
Speaker 1: the no, but Rogers Rogers is watching Divergent one night

1083
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: and he's just like Texas agent, Hey, can you get

1084
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 1: me her agents number or whatever? You know? That's that's

1085
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: kind of okay. I was gonna I'm just saying, what

1086
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: if he was on RYA, I don't know, maybe that's

1087
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 1: where they met there Ricky, who did you see when

1088
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: you were scrolling? Were you swiping? How did you get in?

1089
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: By the way, Yeah, someone gave me like an I

1090
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 1: was referred to by someone like a YouTuber that has

1091
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:30,120
Speaker 1: some trillion followers, so I like got on through an invite. Um,

1092
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: and I saw John Mayer, I saw Kaylani, I saw

1093
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 1: Raven Simone, Um, I saw um a couple of other

1094
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: like guitarists that you would recognize guitarists. I mean, did

1095
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: you interact or date or do you know? None of No,

1096
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: none of them matched me back, which was really sad.

1097
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: That's one thing to see them. Yeah, Richie Sambora wasn't

1098
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,399
Speaker 1: like hey I gotta check this. H It was such

1099
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: a random guitarists. Um, you know, like rock stars and

1100
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: like losers to like, oh I'm a vine star with

1101
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: a million followers. It's like get out of here. But

1102
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:12,279
Speaker 1: here I am like, yeah pop calling them. But all right, um,

1103
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 1: all right, well Mark, that was good. No, I'm just

1104
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 1: saying it's like it's true. It's true. It's true. But like,

1105
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: why wouldn't John Mayer like be intrigued, Like I'm just

1106
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: like a little nobody who's like fun to be around

1107
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: like mystery. What are you doing on that side? Bro?

1108
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, I mean, hey, I guess he's

1109
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: he's just owning his whole thing, all right? Does anybody

1110
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 1: else have anything I want to add to the vision board?

1111
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: Thank you Ricky before we go, I have a just

1112
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 1: I will not dive into them, but I have a

1113
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 1: couple of taglines for certain, for a couple of quick

1114
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: taglines that would take no more than twenty seconds. If

1115
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: you'd be interested, I have another one to add to

1116
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: the board. If you want to do that, then finish

1117
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: by giving us some taglines. Sure, let's do that, okay. Um.

1118
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,399
Speaker 1: I wanted to throw Greg and you kind of put

1119
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: this on my rate are and that I did some

1120
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 1: thinking about it. Uh. I want to see it's a

1121
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: big picture of Greg Gumble's head, and then surrounding Greg

1122
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: Gumble's head is just a collection of the most fierce

1123
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: looking wolves that you've ever seen. Just he's he, but

1124
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: the wolves and they had their teeth out. They are

1125
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 1: not coming at Greg. They're going the other way. They're

1126
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 1: protecting Greg Gumble because what whatever is happening behind this,

1127
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: This is just seems to be the number one guy

1128
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: at CBS and those days are over. But what they've

1129
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: been doing with this guy, they just let rich Gannon

1130
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: go his partner um for the year last a couple

1131
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,439
Speaker 1: of years, I guess it was Um. They before that

1132
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: they had tagged him with Bruce Arians, which was, you know,

1133
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: come on, but in Trent Green was in there, and

1134
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: then before that, Trent Green was there, and they got

1135
00:57:56,520 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: Trent Green out of there, and it's like, let's get

1136
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: this man out of this abusive cycle where you're pairing

1137
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: him with like gimmick hires and quarterbacks from the Imperial

1138
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: period of ludicrous. You know, how about we take Jim

1139
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 1: Nance and his twenty million dollar a year demands, say,

1140
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: go take a high, go to Amazon, Greg with Romo

1141
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 1: and uh. For for no other reason than just think

1142
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 1: how many less uh golf ball golf bits we'd have

1143
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: to endure during the middle of huge games Gumble Romo,

1144
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: protect Greg, Gumble wolves around him. I would only ask

1145
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: what other bits would we endure though, in place of

1146
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: the golf bits? My bets gumbles a pro. He's been

1147
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 1: doing this for a long time. He's good at his job.

1148
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: He's a professional. There's no question. Why what do you

1149
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 1: see that? Well? I see the I see the first

1150
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: of all, the worm has really turned on the Romo thing.

1151
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: People are are a little tired of Romo. I'm not

1152
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 1: um or the you know, the Romo nance thing. You

1153
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: know fall I don't lie. I mean he's fallen down

1154
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: that pecking chart. Greg Gumble, he had a time at

1155
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: our network. I don't know if you remember that doing

1156
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 1: Thursday night football that I don't know. It doesn't even

1157
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: really make sense of this. God, I don't know. Like

1158
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: CBS executives don't lie, but yeah, I guess they do. Um. Yeah,

1159
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,919
Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, he had his time and

1160
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: he's still he's still getting those checks. So I would

1161
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: be worried though about who's next up there. Yeah, if

1162
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: you're like, if you're Greg Jennings or whatever, and he

1163
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: you're the next partner for Gumble that you know, then

1164
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: you gotta be a little word at it's a weird

1165
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 1: thing to that you put the son your vision board.

1166
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 1: I love it. It's it's yeah, and I greg Or Dan,

1167
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: I wasn't aware that you were such a Greg Gumble

1168
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 1: of file. I like, based on shatter in our news room.

1169
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: And I'm not pegging this on you. I I didn't

1170
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: realize anyone was a died in the wool gumble fan.

1171
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 1: But he is a professional, no doubt about. I don't

1172
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: remember how we did on art play by play rankings

1173
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: a couple of months ago. I don't have the sword

1174
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 1: into the skies, but um, it's like Greg Jennings is

1175
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: gonna come first first day of work and like, oh,

1176
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: by the way, before you get in the booth, here's

1177
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 1: this pendant with an ancient like mummy's head on it.

1178
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: You have to wear it all season. It's like, why,

1179
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 1: oh no, don't worry about. It's definitely not cursed. And

1180
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: I know Jenny Jennings is on Fox Savior tweets I

1181
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: should have chosen Jay Feely or something. You know, it's

1182
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: a live show that we're taping here. I'll throw I'll

1183
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: throw one even by the way, even and something like this, Greg,

1184
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: let's not throw Jay Feely out there. Go ahead, just yeah,

1185
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: trying to think of CBS. I have just a phrase

1186
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 1: for the for the middle of it. I don't know

1187
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 1: if I looked at this exercise differently. I was thinking

1188
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,080
Speaker 1: really more personally, but I'm putting that phrase which I've

1189
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: brought up. He heed the call which was something West

1190
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: would say to me. A lot head the call, that's

1191
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 1: just a nice It's not about little faith or anything.

1192
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: It's you know, but that you can look at it

1193
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 1: that way too. You know what's in your heart that

1194
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: you want to do ultimately if you look in far enough,

1195
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 1: so head that call. I like that, and don't put

1196
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 1: a hashtag head the call. Let's no, we don't need

1197
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 1: the call straight up. And Greg Jennings if they try

1198
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: to give you a tiki god pendant to say no,

1199
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 1: that is I'd not do. I'm not wearing this so

1200
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: so random. This is the first. We haven't talked to

1201
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: Greg Gumble in a while. Do you remember that? Yeah,

1202
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: we were not We did not have a podcast when

1203
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 1: Greg Gumble was on NFL network. Was it Gumbel and Mayok?

1204
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 1: Was that? Who was with Mayak? You predated me in

1205
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 1: terms of watching NFL Network to be totally honestly, I

1206
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 1: didn't even have NFL but he he launched Thursday Night Football,

1207
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: so that that was a big spot. That was I

1208
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: thought Mak was great on it. That that was a

1209
01:01:55,240 --> 01:02:00,080
Speaker 1: big spot for Greg Gumble. Uh at NFL network. You

1210
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 1: know you brought up West and one of the things.

1211
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 1: I would have loved to read a book that West

1212
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: would have written, because I think he would have written

1213
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 1: the next great um sports book. Um, if you were

1214
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 1: able to write a book, Greg, it would it would

1215
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 1: definitely have to be one of those like in in

1216
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:19,240
Speaker 1: Death Breakdowns like they did, like an SNL book they did.

1217
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 1: These guys had all the fun the ESPN book like

1218
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: an NFL network oral history. Um, but oral history is

1219
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 1: even not taking advantage of this because I want Greg's

1220
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:30,960
Speaker 1: takes in there. I want you to to write to

1221
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 1: tell all on NFL networks, but the takes in between. Yeah,

1222
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 1: so stay on my good show network or else. I'm

1223
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 1: coming to you afterwards. And I know all the people

1224
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 1: to contact. By the way, one of them is not

1225
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 1: Greg Gumbo. I made the huge Gumble mistake and confused

1226
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 1: the two Gumbles. It was Brian. I knew something was wrong.

1227
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 1: Bryant Gumble did launched the NFL network, and that's why

1228
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: it was not you know, with all due respect, I

1229
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 1: shouldn't say that. Don't say I know exactly where you're going.

1230
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 1: Don't edit that out. I don't respect it. He he

1231
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 1: was great in the in the studio. Brian Gobble not

1232
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 1: good in the booth. It was a bad choice. So

1233
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 1: his brother Greg in the booth. Okay, in the in

1234
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 1: the booth, Brian Greg spinning, we're off the rails, all right,

1235
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: give us some tags, all right, And there's a lot

1236
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: to these. But they're gonna you're gonna have to almost

1237
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: imagine what they mean. I guess, But, um, best life unlocked,

1238
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. I mean, you had a you know what,

1239
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: we're five months removed from Mrs Stafford complaining about Michigan.

1240
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 1: They're probably like, you know, shoveling their driveways. It's dim

1241
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 1: and dreary. Now you're in law law Land. I mean,

1242
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,919
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stand for them a little bit. You what

1243
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,560
Speaker 1: you are? Wait, I don't understand what you're saying. You agree,

1244
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 1: I just don't want that to go unchecked. Michigan is

1245
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 1: a wonderful place. I know a lot of people love Michigan.

1246
01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 1: Oh it's not really a shot at Michigan, but they

1247
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 1: seem to be tired with it, and I think this

1248
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: is a best life to unlocked. There Suddenly, you know,

1249
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 1: hanging out in Los Angeles and there's a chance to

1250
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 1: become a star for the Rams. I like that out

1251
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 1: of a boring situation. How about this, If you're Jared

1252
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 1: Goff in Detroit, everyone's down on this guy, time to

1253
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: be a boss boy, And you can paint that all

1254
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 1: from how you wish. But these are things that I've

1255
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 1: found on other people's message boards people are actually using.

1256
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 1: In that case, it was time to be a boss girl.

1257
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:25,919
Speaker 1: But he's he's a boy, so flip it. For some reason,

1258
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 1: boss girl has a little more pop to it than

1259
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 1: boss boy. Well there's some things have more pop than

1260
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 1: Jared Goff right now. So I mean it's you know,

1261
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 1: he's a little guy. Well that wasn't my attempt. Um.

1262
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 1: The last thing is he designed a life he loved. Again,

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Speaker 1: I saw she designed a life she loved. But this

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Speaker 1: can be I think gender neutral. It's Sean McVeigh. I

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Speaker 1: think he's boldly sort of said, look, I was the

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Speaker 1: genius boy and that came with like you know, if

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Speaker 1: you ever watched the Royal Tenant bombs, their adult lives

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Speaker 1: were riddled with with with problem is after being the

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Speaker 1: the boy geniuses and the girl Geniuses and that family,

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Speaker 1: and Shaun McVeigh came in as that guy as the

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Speaker 1: head coach. Well, these are men were I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't have a I could get a Sheila hemp Ford

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Speaker 1: in here for you, somewhere I find will use a boy.

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Speaker 1: It's just coming up a lot. I don't know. This

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Speaker 1: says he designed a life he loved. Oh yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: he was the boy genius. But I'm just saying that

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Speaker 1: he's boldly sort of said, look, I'm restarting the engine,

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Speaker 1: doing it my way. I'm designing the rams and the

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Speaker 1: life that I love. And I think that the Rams,

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Speaker 1: if anything, they've kind of said, we don't care how

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Speaker 1: anyone else does it, and you can like it or not.

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Speaker 1: We're starting in a new direction and they they've upped

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Speaker 1: my interest in that team. And that was a chore

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Speaker 1: I think on their part to get there. I was

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Speaker 1: just saying, like, just to take the pedal off the

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Speaker 1: accelerator on all the boy stuff because it it might

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Speaker 1: get weird on the vision board if it's just like

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Speaker 1: too much stuff like boy, this boy that, well that's

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Speaker 1: you know, you could exclude me from the exercise, but

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Speaker 1: I'm allowed to paste what I want onto the board.

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Speaker 1: You've got idea, Yeah, it was a good idea. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Greg Gumble not ban Can we put Sean Can we

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Speaker 1: put Sean McVeigh the shirt list in the pool? Can

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Speaker 1: that be the picture of him that we cut out

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Speaker 1: and use. Sure, I don't know if that's exactly the

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Speaker 1: message here, but yes, again, it's your your You have

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Speaker 1: freedom to do what you wi. This is yours though.

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Speaker 1: That's why I don't want to putting next to my

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Speaker 1: picture of him, Like I could have him in clothing,

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Speaker 1: you could have him in the pool. Okay. I hope

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Speaker 1: someone's watching this or listening to this right now and

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Speaker 1: maybe it shows up on the subret somebody, somebody puts

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Speaker 1: together what this vision board would look like. We will

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Speaker 1: definitely amplify that on social media. A lot of boys stuff.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get a lot of contributions there. Just just because,

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Speaker 1: by the way, it's been bothering me. I just want

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Speaker 1: to let you know. The original NFL Network Thursday Night

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Speaker 1: team was Bryant Gumble and Chris Collinsworth and Dick and

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Speaker 1: Dick Vermeo replaced Collinsworth on the Saturday games, which I

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Speaker 1: remember was a weird thing, but I stand by my take.

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Speaker 1: Brian and Gumbo was one of the worst play by

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Speaker 1: play man I've ever heard. Barely was aware of what

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Speaker 1: was going on in the NFL. We killed those broadcasts.

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Speaker 1: One little note before we get out of here, like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not standing for the total Brian Gumble takedown. As

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Speaker 1: someone who's older than you and grew up every morning

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Speaker 1: watching Brian Gumble and Jane PAULI uh, you know, they

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Speaker 1: were the Today Show hosts of choice, and I know

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Speaker 1: Brian Gumble. They that Sports Illustrated profile they put out

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Speaker 1: about Brian and Greg Gumble back in the day was

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Speaker 1: one of the bigger broadcasting takedowns I've ever read, and

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Speaker 1: I would suggest you go find it. Do you guys

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Speaker 1: remember that Greg? You Greg, this will essentially be adult

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Speaker 1: reading to hear you would he he did. He did

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Speaker 1: the game where they went sixteen and o over the Giants.

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Speaker 1: That was actually Brian Gumble's last game. I believe with

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Speaker 1: NFL network that Greg is so annoyed that he was

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Speaker 1: so annoyed. UM. But and you know, real sports venerable UM.

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Speaker 1: Sports of the last twenty years so so still going strong.

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Speaker 1: Certainly there is definitely some respect on Brian Gumble's name here,

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Speaker 1: but the vision board has Greg with the Wolves and

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Speaker 1: maybe Briant like with his name scratched out, I don't respect.

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Speaker 1: There we go a bunch of whipper snappers taking down

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Speaker 1: the gumbles. This should go well. Um. All right, that's

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Speaker 1: it for this week. We'll be back next week with

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Speaker 1: two shows, UM, including a Monday program, so you'll hear

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Speaker 1: from us next on Monday. Again. A reminder the Chris

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Speaker 1: westling UM go fund me for Lakisha and link is active,

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Speaker 1: please hit it up. And actually, someone just on Twitter

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Speaker 1: this morning had asked me UM about what kind of

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Speaker 1: books West was into. Of course, as you know, West

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Speaker 1: wrote an amazing piece about his favorite football book Books

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Speaker 1: of All Time. Check that out. And also another listener

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Speaker 1: and and West fan as we all were, UM went

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Speaker 1: on Spotify and saw that West his Spotify account his

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Speaker 1: playlists and I can't stress this enough. West was a

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Speaker 1: music lover as all of us are, but West, in

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Speaker 1: his west way, was also a curator of playlists that

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Speaker 1: all fit a very UM specific mindset. And um, he

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Speaker 1: has eighty five playlists available over on Spotify, which you

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Speaker 1: could get if you look him up. Contact West over

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Speaker 1: there or just check out my Twitter profile where I

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Speaker 1: have it amplified there. Keep saying amplified everything from Steely

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Speaker 1: Dan to lead belly based on what we were listening

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Speaker 1: to over at their place, uh last weekend. Absolutely all right,

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Speaker 1: good stuff. This is dan As signing off for Quiet Storm,

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Speaker 1: the Old Boss and Ricky Hollywood behind the virtual glass.

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Speaker 1: Oh Greg, take down that other suspender or what is

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Speaker 1: what they called, oh brill Bryan Gobble. That's it until Monday.

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Speaker 1: Defender