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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast is not young, that's sure.

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Speaker 1: From the Chris west Link podcast studio. It's Around the

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Speaker 1: NFL Wednesday edition. Dan Hans is here with some heroes,

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal. I mean the pickup boys of

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Speaker 1: the news and the intensity of the news. We've gone

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Speaker 1: zero to about six and sixty here in our league.

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Speaker 1: Dan and I had a chance to go out and

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Speaker 1: have a beer yesterday and in the course of we're

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Speaker 1: seventeen stories broke while we were watching the Crawl on

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Speaker 1: the television in the corner of the room. And we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get to all of them. Julio Jones's new home,

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Speaker 1: the official start of the Trey Lance era. Michael Thomas

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Speaker 1: about that. But first right off the bat, and this again,

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Speaker 1: this tells you how things have changed, how things have

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Speaker 1: picked up. We have no time for anymore just messing

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Speaker 1: around you. Everyone's like, hey, how was your weekend? Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, the summer and they don't any how. Stuff

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Speaker 1: in Japan. You know, you know, insiders respect insiders, okay,

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Speaker 1: and we know what I've done in my career. I

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Speaker 1: broke the Tom Brady stolen jersey story amongst many things.

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Speaker 1: And that's life is the A T N media insiders.

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Speaker 1: So when I see someone else that's thriving in this

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Speaker 1: particular sector of sports media, I just respected. And that's

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Speaker 1: why we're gonna bring on right now. From Philadelphia Eagles

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Speaker 1: training camp, Ian Rappaport, who had what I like to

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Speaker 1: call just this is again insider respect, insider maximum scoopage

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Speaker 1: this Kyler Murray story, which is just tremendous and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get into it. And also whatever else is going

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Speaker 1: on with Ian as he travels the Northeast at camps. Ian,

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Speaker 1: what's up, buddy? How are you? Because this isn't OLDTV?

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Speaker 1: Can I just sit back like Chris Now, You're good.

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Speaker 1: You're good. It's gonna be on YouTube. But the look

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Speaker 1: go back to you, Dan to to equal amounts. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's that's resting Ian face. You have to seeing my

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Speaker 1: face while he was talking. It was not it was

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Speaker 1: not resting in face. So let's get into it right now, buddy.

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Speaker 1: The Kyler story is great because you we hear the

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Speaker 1: the big contract and finally five years two thirty and

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Speaker 1: But then we learn via rap sheet that there's a

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Speaker 1: clause in there, an independent study clause, an addendum that

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Speaker 1: basically asks Kyler Murray to work harder, to study harder,

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Speaker 1: to be more focused on the job. I like, we

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Speaker 1: we like learning how the sausage is made when it

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Speaker 1: comes to sports media, How did this come about? And

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Speaker 1: how did it all play out for you here? All right?

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Speaker 1: So you know, I know a lot of people are

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Speaker 1: kind of wondering, like, and I was on the Dan

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Speaker 1: this being out? And I'm like, news doesn't really work

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Speaker 1: like that, Like I mean, I guess maybe it does sometimes,

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Speaker 1: can get it. So you say, hey, Kyler's signed contract,

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Speaker 1: the baseball clause because there is one is guaranteed money

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Speaker 1: so that's what I was looking for, and then I

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Speaker 1: not me, it's gonna be someone else. You put something

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Speaker 1: which we've heard that that's been an issue with Kyler

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Speaker 1: Does it make sense to me? Like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: an embarrassing clause, because how can they track this Anyways?

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Speaker 1: reality is, if I don't know, maybe he's gonna end

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Speaker 1: May be it is something that benefits them, and they say,

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Speaker 1: other quarterbacks, that is okay. It does it look bad, yes,

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Speaker 1: has been in another quarterbacks contract. Is this the first

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Speaker 1: the way through. With Julio Jones last year, you know,

425
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Speaker 1: Titans fans a they really believe that he would be

426
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Speaker 1: the guy that would be that big one to punch.

427
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Speaker 1: Didn't work out. Jones became a free agent this offseason,

428
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,920
Speaker 1: sat on the you know, waiting line as it were,

429
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 1: waiting for a gig, and now he's got one and

430
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,119
Speaker 1: it's a good one because Julio Jones, the future Hall

431
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Speaker 1: of Famer, signs a one year contract with the Tampa

432
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Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers. Um, so we shall see what Julio Jones,

433
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 1: at this stage of his career has left. He's dealt

434
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 1: with a lot of negging injuries now mark for several years. Um,

435
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,199
Speaker 1: but he's playing with Tom Brady and that's never a

436
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 1: bad thing. If he went anywhere else, I would almost

437
00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 1: not even bad. And I I think the Bucks thing,

438
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 1: just because it is Brady, something about tells me you're

439
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 1: gonna get this sort of season from who I's missed

440
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 1: fourteen games over the last two years. Let's say he

441
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 1: stays healthy. I kind of love the signing. I do question, though,

442
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 1: knowing what we know about his durability, Um, what happened

443
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 1: with him last year? Who has a better season, Russell

444
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:42,520
Speaker 1: Gauge or Julio Jones for the Bucks? I think so too.

445
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 1: I will follow the money. I mean, look, look who

446
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 1: got the big early free agent contract that they're putting

447
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 1: into and then Julio Jones who gets six million, which,

448
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,360
Speaker 1: as I mentioned the rapt he was more than I expected. Uh.

449
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have to have a totally solid

450
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Speaker 1: month here, Like if he's missing half of training because

451
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 1: he has hamstring issues which has bothered him and kept

452
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 1: him out of practice mostly for three or four years.

453
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if he even goes into the season,

454
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 1: but it's worth a shot. Yeah. I mean, obviously, Chris

455
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: Godwin questionable to start the season. Um, Mike Evans is

456
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 1: a rock obviously, but Gronk is out the door. Um,

457
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 1: so they need somebody step up. I think and he

458
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: and he he could be that guy. It's just yes,

459
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Speaker 1: I think he got a temper expectations. I think gauge

460
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: is the easy answer for me as well, because even

461
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Speaker 1: if he does get through this training camp in the preseason,

462
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 1: not that he'll probably play in the preseason even he

463
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 1: was healthy, but you gotta set his over under games

464
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 1: play at this point like eight and a half or something.

465
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Speaker 1: It's just that's the nature of the beast with Julio

466
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Speaker 1: Jones at the stage. But last his last games he played,

467
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: he went five for fifty eight in a touchdown in

468
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 1: six or sixty two in a game where they couldn't

469
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Speaker 1: get much going offensively, Like he could be fine. This

470
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,919
Speaker 1: tells me, though that Tom Brady and there there's been

471
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Speaker 1: reports about this, so I'm not just speaking out of

472
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Speaker 1: school that like he wasn't totally in love with Tyler

473
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Speaker 1: Johnson and Jalen Darden and Cyril Grayson and Irman and

474
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 1: Scotty Miller, like he he hasn't really seen those guys

475
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Speaker 1: step up. But I feel like we knew that during

476
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 1: the playoffs last year he wanted he wanted Julio. There

477
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 1: is there isn't an outcome here where this turns into

478
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Speaker 1: a great veteran signing that he's a nice role player

479
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Speaker 1: for them. I would like to see that, um, if

480
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 1: only to like, No, actually, I feel bad for Falcons fans.

481
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: Falcons fans are hating this one. Just like to see

482
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: him on the rival Bucks, to see to Tom Brady

483
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Speaker 1: Julio Jones, who would have gone down in history as

484
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Speaker 1: one of the best ten catches, I would say, in

485
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl history, leading the Falcons to a victory on

486
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 1: that sideline grab overt Stefan Gilmore that should have set

487
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Speaker 1: up the game winning points for Atlanta midway through the

488
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Speaker 1: fourth quarter until Ryan took that sack that took him

489
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: out like that he would have gotten down. That would

490
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 1: have been his moment forever, and that was just sort

491
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 1: of like a footnote Tom Brady and no player in

492
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: the history at the NFL, because I follow people one

493
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 1: just you just said you like stopped yourself because you

494
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,479
Speaker 1: didn't want to like rag on Falcons fans, and then

495
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 1: you immediately drive it to experience we've had. We've had

496
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 1: the fish tank, right, we had? What else did we have?

497
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 1: The Ravens nest? The Ravens Nest. I want to take

498
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Speaker 1: us in two thousand twenty two to the Bear Cave.

499
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: Now a lot of people are going to the Bear Cave.

500
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: Usually we like to go places where people don't go.

501
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: Nobody's going to the Bear Cave right now, so we

502
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: this year will occasionally walked gingerly into the darkness of

503
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:38,360
Speaker 1: the bear. I mean, he's a nice guy, he seems nice,

504
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 1: but I just don't need to have the conversation, uh

505
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Speaker 1: in the bear Cave. Some good news, Roquan Smith is

506
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 1: not it's not so contentious that he's not even in

507
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: the building. He's in the building. But it's your classic

508
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: Holding Bears quote, Matt Eberflus, Did you know that you

509
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: know that even loses the head coach of the Bears

510
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Speaker 1: that's why we're well, some people might not be following

511
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: the Bears very closely in this moment. That's sort of

512
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 1: bird's eye view following the Bears, just knowing the coaches

513
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: name right, I'm just listening. There are people out there

514
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: that are listening that we're like, Oh, now, if if,

515
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: if you didn't know that their offensive coordinator. And remember

516
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: eber flu is a defensive guy, so this offensive coordinator

517
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: has a lot of responsibility. Or just if you didn't

518
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: know he it was Luke Getzy, former Packers assistant, then

519
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: that is more understandable. Eberflus. You gotta know. There's information

520
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: just flying around the Bearcave right now. Anyway, ro Kuan

521
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,719
Speaker 1: Smith has been put on the pup list, but he

522
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: is still looking for the contract. He's set to make

523
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 1: nearly ten million in the fifth and final year of

524
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 1: his rookie deal. But maybe you could take that as

525
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: a sign of good news. How about Robert Quinn, the

526
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: veteran pass rusher coming off a big year with Chicago,

527
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 1: There's been questions about whether he is part of the

528
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: team's future. Um he had not reported to camp, but

529
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 1: now he has. He reported to training camp. He had

530
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: skipped mandatory minicamp in June, and there had been some

531
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Speaker 1: thoughts that the veteran could be moved because Chicago not

532
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 1: contending well. He does not expect to be traded, he

533
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: said today Wednesday. We'll see if that plays out true.

534
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Speaker 1: Eighteen And did you know this in the Bearcave, eighteen

535
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Speaker 1: and a half sacks last year for Robert Quinn. I did.

536
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Speaker 1: And in the three previous seasons he had an equal

537
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: eighteen and a half, so he had a standout year.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, if you're Matt Eberflus, very informational cave,

539
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 1: it is you lost Khalil Mack obviously a Keem Hicks

540
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: out the door. I mean, if you're Matt Eberflus, I

541
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: get that the Bears are rebuilding and there must be

542
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: some organizational buying that it's gonna take a couple of years.

543
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 1: But on offense it feels sort of super gloomy. But

544
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: he's a defensive coach and he's coming there to put

545
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: his stamp on. He's got a new scheme. You need

546
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn, you need Rokwan Smith, So there have to

547
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: be some buying in the building. We're getting Rokewan Smith

548
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 1: a new deal and it better happened soon. The whole

549
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: like he wasn't gonna show up didn't last too long.

550
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: It's it's a classic hold in class. I'm not gonna

551
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: say if it existed for three years or so, so

552
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,959
Speaker 1: it's not you know, that's we're already in classic territory now.

553
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: I think it would. It's like one of those terms

554
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: holding that would have gained popular popularity eventually anyways, like

555
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: I are boomerang um right, But I I gotta say

556
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: among the national NFL media, I really kick started holding

557
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 1: started three years ago, started repeating over and over. Now

558
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: it's everywhere there is. You know, I'm not saying, don't

559
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 1: dance around and come out and say it, say it's you.

560
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: It was me. Well, we could do a deeper linguistic

561
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: study on that, but that's that's fine. Let's leave the barricade,

562
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 1: but it won't be the last time we're gonna We're

563
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,719
Speaker 1: gonna visit the barcade periodically. Everyone else stays away from

564
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: the cave right now, they're not even going to the forest.

565
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: We will duck in occasionally, but let's add somewhere else

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00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: in the NFC North Little Packers News, Uh Packers President

567
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: and CEO Mark Murphy is happy to hand out extensions

568
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: for general manager Brian Goode Kanst and head coach Matt LeFleur.

569
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: Uh these two have not gotten over the hump to

570
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: Lombardi glory together, but what else can you ask for?

571
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: The Packers are a year in and year out a

572
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: true Super Bowl contender uh la Fleur statistically, numbers wise,

573
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: has been one of the most successful head coaches ever

574
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: uh in three seasons, three NFC North titles, thirty nine

575
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: and ten record. Packers are in good hands, especially with

576
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers there, so they make sure to get these

577
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: guys pen to paper with a new extension for years

578
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: to come. I'm not sure what is the how many

579
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: years they didn't say, I don't know what the whole years?

580
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: What is the whole thing with like, let's not reveal

581
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: all the details of coaching and GM contracts, Like no

582
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: one was sure as we talked about with Jane last episode,

583
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: whether Mike McCarthy had an extra year on his contract.

584
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: This should just be public. Make it public sometimes. I

585
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: don't know how they get away with that. If it

586
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 1: goes south, the owner is stuck paying coach x like

587
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: four more years and they probably like, it's fine, just

588
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: just let us know. I mean, this is no great idea.

589
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: Their roster looks amazing. I think their defensive roster. Goody

590
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: has really focused on defense quite a bit as a GM,

591
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: and I think he's done a nice job with it.

592
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: I think this is the year it should pay off.

593
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: Matt Laflor has come a long way since we were

594
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: in your garage and your dad, Keith Hansas called him

595
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: a little boy with a beard. He called a bearded boy, right.

596
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: I thought it was a little boy with a beard.

597
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: He's like a boy with the beard. Yeah, maybe it

598
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: was just boy with a beard, but yeah, it's not

599
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: wrong back then. But now he's not a boy. I'm

600
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: still Packers are still in old Zuser tugboat time out

601
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: um after their playoff performance. I mean they're in tugboat

602
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: time out still and they're going to be probably until

603
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: next January. But I will not you'd be stupid, did

604
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: not respect what they built. What are you gonna do

605
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: when you know we're talking Packers every week will be

606
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: over the moon because they're in tugboat time Matt normally

607
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: would be you just ignore them. You don't even like

608
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: that's shoot them into the sun. Yeah, I can't do

609
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: with that because I'm hosting the podcast. But I'm not

610
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 1: going to be over the moon, and that's gonna I

611
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: have to think about that with power rankings too. I

612
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: need to be understand what happened to January should not

613
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: be forgotten. The size of the egg that was laid

614
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: by the packers and what that means organization. How is

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00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: that different than every other I've been saying this for

616
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: as long as we've been getting together every January and

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00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: egg is laid. Well, I'm just saying that in particular,

618
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: that was a pretty grizzly egg. It was a horrible

619
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: egg that was for the team. The Niners team allowed

620
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: the Cowboys to do that. They pushed the Cowboys into

621
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: the same spot previously. That was a lot. A lot

622
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: of it had to do with the Niners operating saying

623
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: it was too cold for the packers and that's why

624
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: they lost. And I was just remembering comments remember that

625
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: I think it was I think I would say that, yeah,

626
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: that the weather hurts their passing attack. That happened every year.

627
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: It's an egg where oh there's a little chicken ee

628
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: inside and then you open it and no actually the

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00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: chicken ee is bleeding and dead. Gross. They've had it's

630
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: like bloody egg to your point, since we've been here

631
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: in two thousand ten, they've they won the Super Bowl

632
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: the first year we were here. There's been many eggs since,

633
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: but that was the first one who was like, man,

634
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: these guys are tight. These guys are afraid of the moment.

635
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Speaker 1: These guys are better that that. It's Jimmy Garoppolo it listen,

636
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let it. I'm gonna move on. And other news,

637
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas is practicing. That is big news for the

638
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints, who are hoping their wide receiver can

639
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: return to listen. He was on a canton path when

640
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: that ankle for that ankle gave out in week one

641
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: of the season. So getting him off the pub list,

642
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: getting him on the practice field this early in training camp,

643
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: it's just a great sign. Greg. It's the biggest on

644
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: field development I think of the first couple of days

645
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: of training camp. He he was emotional, especially for Michael Thomas.

646
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: I mean, he he's the guy who's like always fired up,

647
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: but you could see what the day meant to him.

648
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: When he spoke to the media, he gave. I believe

649
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: Jeff Duncan a little grief, which I enjoyed too about

650
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: something because he's been really reporting about the UH divide

651
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: between Michael Thomas and and the organization over the last

652
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: couple of years. It's huge, you know. We they have

653
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: such a huge gap between like what their best outcome

654
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: is and their worst outcome. And Michael Thomas to me,

655
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: is sort of the embodiment of that. You could get

656
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: a top ten receiver out of Michael Thomas. Suddenly Landry's

657
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: your three and the Lobby's your two and you're you're

658
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: you're on fire, or you might not get anything out

659
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: of Michael Thomas and and that could be the type

660
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: of season the Saints have. I think they could be

661
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: anywhere from like twelve to six wins. I think that's fair.

662
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you're in a division where you know you're

663
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: gonna play the Falcons twice. They seem like a dead

664
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: operation this season. The Panthers are iffy. I mean, that

665
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: can inflate your wind total. They're not scared of the Bucks.

666
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,959
Speaker 1: It's it's not just their offense, it's their defense too.

667
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I think a love is someone who's gotten

668
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley comparisons our friend Land zero Line compared him

669
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: to Terry Terry McLaurin. So a good route runner can

670
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: come in and help them right away. I think he's

671
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: a chance to be a big contributor. I think for me,

672
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: it's like you don't have the Sean Payton factor, Michael

673
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: Thomas or not. Like what does that mean for Jamis Winston?

674
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: What does it mean for the entire I think he

675
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: gave them an extra two wins a year. So the

676
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: Saints to me are a real X factor type team

677
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: right now. All right, we talked about hold ins. Here's

678
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: some real holdouts. Jesse Bates the safety of the Bengals

679
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: unsigned franchise tag, and he has not reported to training camp.

680
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: There have been some rumors about a potential trade there

681
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 1: as well. But also Cincinnati is right in a Super

682
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: Bowl window. You would think they will do everything to

683
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: try to keep him on the field or get him

684
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: on the field. UH. And then also Orlando Brown, very

685
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: important piece of what the Chiefs are doing. The left

686
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: tackle has not reported training camp in Kansas City, and

687
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: Mike Garifolo reported earlier this week that he will not

688
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: report for some time. So that is another UH. Situation

689
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: to track. If you're not going to show up for

690
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: day one, you might as well skip that whole first

691
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: two and a half weeks where it's technically training camp,

692
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: because it doesn't seem like that much fun. You either

693
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: have to live in the dorms, especially if you can

694
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: get the money wiped away the fines. It's like August fifteen,

695
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: seventeenth is around the window where they break from from

696
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: quote training came might even be earlier August eleven. I

697
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 1: mean you can show up a solid three or four weeks. Yeah,

698
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: skip this part. I'm with you. And Andy Reid kind

699
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: of stuck it to Orlando Brown saying, we know that

700
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: Joe Tuney can do this in a heartbeat if they

701
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: need to move in the left tackle at some point,

702
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: so they I think there is stances you look at.

703
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: You turned down what Mike Garifola reported it was a

704
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: ninety one million deal dollar deal over five years. I

705
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 1: don't know why he did, because I think it's a

706
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: great organization to be at. You can you can be

707
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 1: the left tackle for Patrick Mahomes and now you're sitting

708
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: there in He'll be back. I know, he just know,

709
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: w is he just because you think he's worth million.

710
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's it's a great situation for a

711
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: left tackle in the NFL. If you're good and he

712
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: is good, well, I can't deny that. Who wouldn't want

713
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: to play with future Hall of Fame or Patrick Mahomes

714
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: in front of one of the great fan bases in football? Well,

715
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: apparently Orlando Brown at at the current time. Let the

716
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: man go through his business process. Mark, speaking of the

717
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: Bengals Joe Burrow, I don't know what you have against him,

718
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 1: but I just felt like I had to say something.

719
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 1: They're I feel like you're cooking that up at a

720
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 1: thin air. That's fine, Marks, very much the like these

721
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: guys will make too much money. I'd be out there

722
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: players make too much money. Joe Burrow also not involved

723
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: with Cincinnati Bengals practice right now. He's gonna miss a

724
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: little bit of time. He's having his appendix removed. You know,

725
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: this is another to me, a positive sign, uh for Cincinnati,

726
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: because the old Bengals, the appendix, this would happened in

727
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: week six and he'd be missing like seven games or

728
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: three games or something. But now that things are better

729
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, knock on wood. Uh. It happens in mid July.

730
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: Everything's fine care of That was a professional take from

731
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: someone who's done this long time, because I was I

732
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: looked at this story, was well, what could we possibly

733
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: say about that? I wrote, non issue? You came up

734
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: with one, I'm gonna have the one I'm gonna come

735
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: up with is. I like it in cases like this

736
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: when someone gets their appendics and it's like, oh, well,

737
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: that's that's nothing. At least that's not a real injury.

738
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: It's like if I had to go get my appendix

739
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: out and miss the next thing of work, that would

740
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: that would bother me. That's significant in my life. So

741
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: I feel for Joe Burrow. Don't be healing. The only

742
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: good thing, though, is when your appendix needs you're in.

743
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: You're in like total physical infamy when you need it out.

744
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 1: I looked it up though, and it's said the normal

745
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: recovery time to to typical human activities is two to

746
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: four weeks. So he's doing something more than just walking

747
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: around or climbing the ladder, you know, you know, mowing

748
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: your lawn. He's gonna be taking massive hits. So I

749
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: wonder if we see him in the preseason. No, I

750
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: doubt we will, and I don't think we would anyways.

751
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: And yeah, like they really is fortunate because obviously he

752
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: won't be touched from now until September eleven or whatever

753
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: the first game is. But uh, it's it's a violence.

754
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody's paying attention news update. So

755
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: if the timing worked out, Unfortunately for Chris Carson, his

756
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: NFL career has come to an end after just five seasons.

757
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: The Seahawks running back who suffered a neck injury required

758
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: a surgical fusion. And that you know, you hate to

759
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: hear any type of surgery for a player, um, but

760
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: when you hear the next surgery, it always his touch

761
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: and go. At that point, you and you hope that

762
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: the player gets cleared and he can be healthy and safe.

763
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: But this is the other outcome where the player ends

764
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: up retiring years, half a decade and maybe more than

765
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: when he typically would be expected to retire. And unfortunately

766
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: Chris Carson has to walk away. It's just not safe, uh,

767
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 1: to play with this type of issue. So tough because

768
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: Greg Chris Carson when he was healthy, was really a

769
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 1: great running back. It was so fun when he first

770
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: popped up. I remember West just loving his running thought

771
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: how could you not? It was just like so aggressive. Unfortunately,

772
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: it was the kind of running style where you're like, oh,

773
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: that guy might get hurt sometime playing that way. This

774
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: was obviously just bad luck. But a couple of seasons

775
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: over twelve yards rushing, Uh made some big plays in

776
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I remember against the Vikings where he broke

777
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,240
Speaker 1: a couple of tackles, scored a long touchdown. Happy trails

778
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: that that's too bad. There's another retirement in Seattle just

779
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: popped up ten minutes ago. K J. Wright is signing

780
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 1: a one day ceremonial contract and is officially retiring as

781
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: a member of the Seahawks. Smith and Drew lock and

782
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: Rashad Penny. They've got Kenneth Walker. Kenneth Walker their second

783
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: round pick, so that's that's a great duo. I think

784
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: they what has Penny done other than that stretch last

785
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: year to show you that he could be counted on

786
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: a question for the we we want to see what

787
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: if it's that version going forward? Look out and they

788
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: came Metcalfe and Tyler Lockett. I mean they have some

789
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:57,240
Speaker 1: high level player. That's a nice duo. If if Penny's healthy.

790
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: I love met Calf and Locket, and they're gonna need

791
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 1: to run the bullocks six hundred forty times a game

792
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: at Trew Locker, Geno Smith at your quarterback. Sorry, Greg,

793
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: I know you're running that fan club along with It's all.

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00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 1: It's all Um managed ex spectators. Was very rose. Both

795
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: of you were very rosy. And just now I was looking,

796
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: I was thinking about that Joe behind the offensive line

797
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 1: and like, oh, that's rough. But you guys are higher

798
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 1: on the backfield, and maybe the rookie is a big

799
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: we we were there for a big Rashad Penny game

800
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 1: in person, Dan against the Rams, I mean for five

801
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: games he was like Derrick Henry busting open like seventy

802
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: yard runs everything. Multiple years before that, well yeah, there

803
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: was four of those. Three of those. Will consider the

804
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Speaker 1: entile entire sample size. All Right and kJ Right, but

805
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: I once throughout a whole feature on NFL dot Com

806
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: about the kJ Right Wagner duo. They were sort of

807
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: after they got to the Super Bowl. That was the

808
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: core of their team. He was a hell of a

809
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 1: linebacker whose whose career d fell off a cliff quickly,

810
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: but was great when he was great and finally, this

811
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: always messes with my head. We have a name change,

812
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: especially when it's a prominent player. Darius Leonard has made

813
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: it be known the All Pro Colts linebacker that he

814
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: now wants to go by the name that many of

815
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: his family and friends call him. It's his middle name.

816
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:26,280
Speaker 1: Darius Leonard going forward is now Shaquille Leonard, Shack Leonard.

817
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: I like, but I don't know if he goes by show.

818
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: I think it's Shakil Shakil Leonard from this point forward,

819
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: respect it or else. You wanted to throw this one

820
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: in there in fairness. He the first thing he said

821
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: about it was like, oh, no, hard feelings. You can

822
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: call me Darius. I know it's hard to do that.

823
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: He's like, I know it's hard to get used to.

824
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: But I've been going by Shaquille with with everyone I

825
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: love forever. I feel more comfortable. I like it. I

826
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 1: think there is a market difference. Mark disagreed. He likes

827
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: Darius Leonard has a name better. To me, it's Shaquille Leonard.

828
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: Sounds like a Hall of famer. Darius Leonard was solid,

829
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: you're not going to honor the Shakill switch. Now. I

830
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: want him to do what he wants to do. It's

831
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: just that I got to know him a certain way

832
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: and then suddenly, Uh, he changes his name and he

833
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: goes to the middle the middle name, which is interesting.

834
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: I guess we could all make that choice at some point.

835
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: I am my middle name is my father's name, so

836
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: Keith Hansas, which would be confusing to the listeners who've

837
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 1: listened for a long time. Also confusing if any of

838
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 1: your family members, because you kind of sound like Keith.

839
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: Does he have like a Keith Hansas at gmail dot

840
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: com most in the podcast. Now there would be we

841
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: need an offseason episode where you speaking that voice the

842
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: entire episode. What is your middle name? Greg, I can't

843
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 1: do it. Keep the ends, I said, I don't think

844
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: my good name is Michael. My middle name is Michael

845
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:52,439
Speaker 1: Michael Rosenthal. Mine's Edward after my father, who is also

846
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: Namedward Essler or ed But I don't go. I don't

847
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 1: call myself Mark ed Cessler. Now it's like it's like, yeah, Greg,

848
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: it's Youah. Penny was great at the end of the

849
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: last Yeah, but look at the rest of his career

850
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: fairly well, you tried, Uh me and my dad should

851
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: switch roles for a summer where he hosts the podcast

852
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: for a summer, and then I just work outside, uh,

853
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,479
Speaker 1: in the yard for the entire summer, like seven hours

854
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 1: a day. You're going to like a Billy Joel concert

855
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 1: with your mom and you're kind of take a concert,

856
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: you know, mow the lawn twice a week, just be

857
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: just be working constantly outside to the point where I

858
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: can't even figure out what my dad's doing at this point.

859
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: But he's really he's an outdoor warrior. He's mowing the

860
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: lawn twice a week. That feels very like it. I

861
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: feel like you're on that path though you're very much

862
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: you like doing the yard like that door, like being

863
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 1: a real homeowner. I do. I enjoy enjoy, enjoy it. Uh,

864
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: I enjoy being a homeowner. You know your neighbors that

865
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: you're feeding, um, one of your neighbors or two frogs.

866
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: It's a zoo basically over there. I'm feeding two giant dogs,

867
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: a stray cat that they feed, and two frogs. What

868
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: is taking the dogs? Are you doing that too? Oh?

869
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: I love dogs, that's not get it, but it's a

870
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: lot of work. The cat is a little touch and

871
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: go because cats, you know, you know, cats it's like,

872
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: come on, what is the frog? What's the diet for

873
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: the frog? Is it of your neighbor? Though? Dogs are

874
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: like people get paid for that. I would I'm not

875
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 1: saying I would ask for payment, but I would expect

876
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: a nice thank you gift. All right, that is what's

877
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: happening in the news. What do you guys think an animal? Comment?

878
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: All right, take a break and then uh a quick

879
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: game with Grave Digger and then we're out. All right,

880
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: welcome back. Let's do something fun here, Grave Digg or

881
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: how are you doing buddy? Pretty well? Thanks for asking?

882
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: What pretty well? What do you second? How you doing,

883
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: Grave Digger? I'm doing well. Thanks for us. There's the

884
00:44:55,560 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: Grave Digger cam again. Our viewers on YouTube, h can

885
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: do enjoy a great look of graver Christie Randy who

886
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 1: loves publicity. We should mention you know that we are

887
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: on YouTube. Um if you if you prefer that, I

888
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: believe we have mentioned that. I'm just saying it the

889
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: I don't like it. I don't like it because you've

890
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 1: often been down on the problem that YouTube. Here's why

891
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: we were the internet is the future now if we're

892
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: if we're live on YouTube, then it's like a whole thing.

893
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 1: I don't like because we're we're the biggest NFL only

894
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,919
Speaker 1: podcasts out there. You know, you don't want to puff

895
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: your chest out too much. But just in terms of audience,

896
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 1: not fantasy. It's the big numbers, big numbers. But on

897
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: YouTube there's that big numbers. So that just annoys me.

898
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: And it's like, either we should just do it. Help.

899
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying, either we do it or not. I think

900
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: it's great. If you want to see the visual real

901
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: p T. Barnham there, if you want to see what

902
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: the show looks, I can see behind the glass and

903
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: meet the whole crew. I see Randy Chavez Chavez Ravine

904
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 1: back there. See he didn't even bother looking up because

905
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm busy, I'm a pro. Let's get into it.

906
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: Let's get into it. Great. Are you pulled up some

907
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 1: quotes that have popped up over the last twenty four

908
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: hours or so? Do you just want to play that?

909
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: Set them up to him up and play him and

910
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:20,919
Speaker 1: then we'll react to him. Is that what we're doing here? Yeah?

911
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: I think that works. Are maybe some of them are

912
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: kind of funny, some of them maybe like do you

913
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: buy what they're saying, but let's start here. This is

914
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick asked if it will be a problem that

915
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: they haven't named an offensive coordinator the Patriots. Yeah. I'm

916
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: the head coach. Ultimately, I'm responsible for anything. So just

917
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: leave it at that. That's what it is. We're not

918
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: really big on titles and all that, so I think

919
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: everybody you know, it's important that we all work together

920
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: and create a good final product. That's what we're gonna

921
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 1: final product seven. I it's it's such a pull string

922
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: doll answer that I respected the final pro. Do you

923
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 1: wonder what's going on here? Matt Patricia is going to

924
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: be the O C. But if they don't want to

925
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: put it out there, if they put the title on him,

926
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: he doesn't get paid by the Lions. Just I think

927
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: they're just keep allowing him to the plays at practice.

928
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: According to reporters on Wednesday, Matt Patricia, but this is

929
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: not new. Uh. It is a way to avoid paying

930
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: people their full value. Uh. Potentially, But when Josh McDaniels

931
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 1: took over for Charlie Weiss, he was not named offensive coordinator.

932
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: When Brian Flores took over, I believe it was for

933
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: Dean P's It took him a solid two years of

934
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: him actually being the coordinator to get the title. Uh

935
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 1: so they've they've got this in the past for what.

936
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: And when he says we're not really into titles, he

937
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: should say I'm not into titles. And also, let's not

938
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: bury the lead. The bigger question is not like that

939
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 1: they don't have the official labels. It's that Matt Patricia

940
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: and Joe Judge have vital roles on this coaching staff.

941
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: It is another great test of Belichick's reach and ability

942
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: to lead a team. Um, you know, which is pure

943
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 1: would be one thing if Judges the special team coach

944
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 1: and Patricia's helping as a defensive assistant. It's different that

945
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: they're in charge of Max Jones future. I think that

946
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: is like just assumed that that's going to work out.

947
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: Does that mean that at the end of the day, though,

948
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: it's actually Bill Belichick that's directly responsible for the development.

949
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: And if that's the like Belichick is in his early

950
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: seventies now very late sixties, that is he's just I mean,

951
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: the guy is he's different. I guess that's all I'll

952
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: say about it. I respect it, I be grudgingly respect

953
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: Belichick's greatness. He turned seventy in April. Alright, what else

954
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 1: do you have? All right? Jerry Jones opened training camp

955
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: with a press conference, and before anyone could even ask

956
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 1: him a question, he decided to say, this probably the

957
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: one that I have the most sensitivity about, and that

958
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: is Mike and him coaching, and uh, I want to

959
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: be real clear. He wouldn't be sitting here today if

960
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: I didn't think he was the man to lead this

961
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: team to a super Bowl. He would not be And

962
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: I have choices. That's my favorite part of that. I

963
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: have choices. Yeah, there was there's a lot of pushback.

964
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: Even Jane pushed back a little bit as the person

965
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: covering the Cowboys for NFL Network, Like, you know this

966
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 1: narrative about Mike McCarthy and and Sean Payton, and let's

967
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,359
Speaker 1: let this play out. Sure, that's fine, you tell me

968
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,880
Speaker 1: you love Michae McCarthy, you believe in them. But it

969
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: doesn't change the fact that that is a very real

970
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: plot line entering the season, right, and that most coaches

971
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,919
Speaker 1: would not be sitting next to the owner while they're

972
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: speaking about them, just like this, as the opening press

973
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: conference of the season kicks off. That says a lot,

974
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: and her point was that Peyton would not be comfortable

975
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 1: in a Cowboys environment where he doesn't have autonomy and power.

976
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that couldn't change a little bit if

977
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 1: they wanted to finally make that work. I do love

978
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 1: that I've got options though, because of course every NFL

979
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: choice has choices. But Jerry was saying, I'm Jerry f

980
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: and Joe, I've got more choices than those other guys.

981
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,479
Speaker 1: Anything could happen in the jaral zone, and that's what's

982
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: playing out. Every time he speaks. You get relegated to

983
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 1: such a beta sitting there next to Jerry Jones as

984
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,720
Speaker 1: the head coach, where you just sort of like hands folded,

985
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 1: not able to say anything. That's part of the price

986
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 1: you pay. What else? All right? This is cults GM

987
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:21,919
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard, what's your favorite type of frog? On why

988
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: they haven't signed a notable wide receiver yet? Easy for

989
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: me to go sign a name for yall. It would

990
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: be y'all would write these beautiful stories and then when

991
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 1: that got him play well, the flip would be incredible,

992
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: like it would be incredib y'all won't get called on it.

993
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 1: I will y'all won't get called on it though, so

994
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,800
Speaker 1: I have some patience. Let us work to it, so

995
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: you're not signing a wide receiver to avoid eventual critique.

996
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 1: I like that because he is right about that. There

997
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 1: were there were points last season, just to use the

998
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: cults as an example, where the local media had said

999
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: the season was over or so at two and four,

1000
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 1: and then there was points last season when the local

1001
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: media was thinking this team might make the super Bowl,

1002
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: and then everyone knows what happened, but the media end

1003
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: up really not taking any grief for being so far off.

1004
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 1: I think it was interesting though, that Matt Ryan didn't

1005
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: want Julio Jones on his team, and that is absolutely

1006
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: how I'm reading this situation, knowing a little bit of

1007
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: behind the scenes stuff Ryan and Julio they Ryan was like, man,

1008
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: I would do anything to have Julio Jones. I think

1009
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: they would have found room for him probably probably, or

1010
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: he'd want Julio Jones of four years ago. Uh. Do

1011
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 1: you think we're gonna do our hot butt rankings of

1012
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: head coaches on the hot seat? Um? Probably next month?

1013
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: I wonder you know. Jim Mercy is a very passionate owner.

1014
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: He's very emotional we saw how he took the collapse

1015
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: against the Jaguars in Week eighteen last year almost personally

1016
00:51:56,080 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: on a biblical level. Um. I wonder if Raik Ballard

1017
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: or feeling a little heat this season. You know. So

1018
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 1: we had Zach Key from when you were the East

1019
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 1: Coast our friend, Zach Key from you did the show.

1020
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 1: We did a show without you and it was very

1021
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: informative and we asked him that and he said that

1022
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,479
Speaker 1: they're definitely you know, it's real because they had the

1023
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: heat should be there. But I think the thing is

1024
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,919
Speaker 1: if you're or say you have to say what better coach,

1025
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: You're gonna get what better GM becase I think ballads

1026
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: very good. When then on top of it, they had

1027
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: to navigate the retirement of Andrew Luck, which I think

1028
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: was super thorny, and they've gone. It's been difficult since,

1029
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: but you can't just flip. They are floating. I think

1030
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: they've they've done fairly well. I think they won that

1031
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: was they won tend with a lot, they won ten

1032
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 1: with Luck. I kind of forgot that right Luck Sea

1033
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: he was really great. And then seven wins, eleven wins,

1034
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: nine wins. I think it's unfair, but I absolutely think

1035
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: if they didn't make the playoffs, they'd be on the

1036
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 1: hot seat, and right would probably lose his job even

1037
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: if it was I don't know. I think if you

1038
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 1: give up, if you give up Frank Reik, he has

1039
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: another job in four seconds. But that doesn't doesn't mean

1040
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 1: you wouldn't make the move if you didn't think he

1041
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:05,919
Speaker 1: was a guy though, just because somebody else would value

1042
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: if they didn't make the playoffs this year, I think

1043
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: they would make changes to the couple more more, let's

1044
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: skip down a couple. Then here's Matt rule. The graver cam.

1045
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: Now you got Sean Kelly's like, Now he's looking directly

1046
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: at the camera, like, Psychopa, do you have any work

1047
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 1: to do? Um? Here's Matt Rule on naming a starting

1048
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: quarterback for the Panthers. To me, my job is not

1049
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: to pick the starting quarterback. The players will do that

1050
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: with the way that they play. My job is to

1051
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: make sure that we have really good players in the room,

1052
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: which we now know which we do in that one,

1053
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: and make sure that they have opportunities and so you know,

1054
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 1: it'll it'll be a fun ride when we know we know.

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Speaker 1: I like Matt Rule. Do you like he's a Jersey guy.

1056
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: He's cool. What the hell is he talking about? He's

1057
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,959
Speaker 1: pretty loose just the way he talks. I actually he picks.

1058
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: Of course he's going to pick through the quarterback is

1059
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 1: I identify with that. I definitely sometimes just say things

1060
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: and it's like, well, I didn't really mean it in

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00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: that way, and I think that's what he just I

1062
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: think he I mean, he's saying that they'll decide with

1063
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: their own play, like I get it. But it's act.

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00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: It's a hundred percentage job. It's one of the most

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00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: important parts of his job right now. I don't think

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00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: he is he technically saying I have nothing to do

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00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 1: with the process that they were. They both played equally well,

1068
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 1: Sam Donald and Baker Mayfield. I would have no input.

1069
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 1: I don't think that what he's that's what he's implaying.

1070
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: They'll go out on the field week one, holding hands

1071
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: against the Browns. Can't be worse than last year. Anything else.

1072
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: One more, one more and then one quick fun one. Okay,

1073
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: so one more real one? Uh. Kyle Shanahan on Trey Lance,

1074
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo moving on and trying to trade Jimmy g

1075
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: I like the second um, but we have moved on

1076
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: to Tray were starting camp out this way. Um, we

1077
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: think Jimmy would have been traded if the surgery didn't happen.

1078
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: It did. He needed to do it, So there's no

1079
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: ill will there at all. Um. But you also can't

1080
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 1: just give um one of the better quarterbacks in the

1081
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: league just to make him available for no reason to

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00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: the whole world. So UM. And the good thing is

1083
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 1: you can have those conversations with jim and he understands

1084
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 1: that too. This is Kyle Shannon crying uncle to the

1085
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: media and he's like, please just stop asking me about

1086
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo in season. He's not involved. I can't be

1087
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: any more clear. Please just stop asking me about it.

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00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a pretty big change though that it's

1089
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: just like we're rolling with Trey, and I think the

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00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 1: only reason they wouldn't the change. I'm sorry they never

1091
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 1: said that before they were they weren't will change other

1092
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: than now he's coming out and saying it's just it's

1093
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: just actually saying you're right. I think he would have

1094
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:36,439
Speaker 1: said that in March or February if they weren't trying

1095
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: to hold on to some mythical leverage when it came

1096
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: to Jimmy G. And then Kyle Shannon's funny because he

1097
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: was like, hey, look, there's no ill will about him

1098
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: getting the surgery, and it's just one of those comments

1099
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: where it's like you should just say less because it

1100
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: would have never occurred to me that there would have

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00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: been ill will. And now I absolutely think they were

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00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: frustrated by the timing of Jimmy G surgery, which was

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00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: early March after they had already put it out there

1104
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 1: that he was available, and I was like, oh, they

1105
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 1: probably weren't thrilled about that, even though it was made

1106
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: sense for Jimmy well legitimate kind of blew up their

1107
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: plans because now they're stuck trading a quarterback that maybe

1108
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: nobody wants, and I think they're gonna hold on to him.

1109
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 1: It sounds like they're not gonna cut him. I like

1110
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: the clarity that part. I don't believe he did say

1111
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: that later, like, we're not gonna cut Jimmy G. They

1112
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: are lying. If for some reason they couldn't get any

1113
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: uh trade offer for him, they are not going to

1114
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 1: keep him for twenty four You have to get rid

1115
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: of him before August because his four million dollar based

1116
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: salary becomes guaranteed if they're they're lying about that well

1117
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,240
Speaker 1: to get the debot deal done, which they sound confident

1118
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: that they can. Like this is a huge part of

1119
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: that was the real story. Now, what's by The one

1120
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,399
Speaker 1: thing You've got to watch John Lynch's body language during

1121
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: that press conference go back. It's one of the most

1122
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: uncomfortable looking. I don't know what's going on there, but

1123
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 1: I do read into he He does the thing where

1124
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 1: he's like scratches his hair where do you can tell

1125
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: his hair is not itchy? He does the thing where

1126
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: he like does this, does this with his nose, and

1127
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: like he looks fidgeting and sort of annoyed at what

1128
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 1: Kyle is saying a little bit too much here and there,

1129
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,240
Speaker 1: and Lynch does not seem to like that. It's been dramatic,

1130
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 1: and I just wonder if those two are really always

1131
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: on the same page. It's been obviously a stressful situation

1132
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: for the pair. Finally, finally, Aaron Rodgers was asked if

1133
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: it was good having Alan Lazard back after missing all

1134
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: off season, and this is his response. I mean, it's

1135
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: always tough going from Hall of Fame and Hall of Famer.

1136
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: It's good. You know, the ConA Air entrance for Aaron

1137
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: Rodgers and then uh, I don't know. He he obviously

1138
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: was annoying with the with the vaccine stuff and some

1139
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 1: of the comments he makes. But like you said, Greg,

1140
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: we'll miss him when he's gone, right, And I don't

1141
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: even I'm I'm not even the big fan of the

1142
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 1: connear thing. Like to me, it's sort of seems corny

1143
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: and tried to herd. But I will miss it all

1144
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: because it's a it's a show, like he had this

1145
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: line ready and some people are like, oh, burn, It's like,

1146
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: calm down, he's having some fun with his friend Davante Adams.

1147
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: It's he's just making a joke. Let's let's let he's

1148
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: been more enjoyable this offseason than or in recent days

1149
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 1: than in the last couple of years. But I also

1150
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: think when he stops playing, he won't be gone. He's

1151
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: not gonna vanish like Andrew Luck until he tried to

1152
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: become the Jeopardy host, which he is not. Somebody who's

1153
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: he's not pulling Andrew Luck put it that way. It's

1154
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: not growing the bushey beer and disappearing for five years. Alright,

1155
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: good stuff, good job, I like that. It was a

1156
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: good seg that's good producer work by Grave Diggers. So

1157
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 1: let's got you on camera. That's you know, it's his idea. Yeah, yeah,

1158
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: his execution of it was flawless and he put in

1159
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 1: the work and you know it made the show better.

1160
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: So we appreciate. It's unclear what Sean Kelly is doing

1161
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: no professionally behind he's supporting. He's supporting him. Yeah, he

1162
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: two thumbs up. All right, before we go, there is

1163
00:58:55,960 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: one more news item that everyone needs to know about,

1164
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: and it's it's a figure that has a special place,

1165
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: um in the hearts of this show. We've been tracking

1166
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: him since his college prospect days. UM, and this gentleman

1167
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: just signed a contract with the San Francisco forty nine.

1168
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 1: Is maybe that's why John Lyndra scratching his head. He's

1169
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: thinking about this situation. He's got all the tools, um,

1170
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: still just twenty seven years old. He's hoping to finally

1171
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 1: break through in the NFL. And UM, let's end today's

1172
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: show by singing literally the praises of a man that

1173
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: we're all rooting for. M D Jack Inde jacking D Jack.

1174
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 1: Why you fall out that we know you fell down

1175
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 1: the draft board and right out of their minds. First

1176
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: hit was Star Cards, then the doll Fins, then sett

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01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: Don't See Hawks, Now nine Ers, Kim dj in djck

1178
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: in DJ, more than a Broken glass pile, Kim DJ

1179
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 1: Kim DJ k in d J. Time to convince Kyle

1180
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 1: absolutely worth de Lane the show for twenty five minutes.

1181
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Unlike Aaron Rodgers, you may have another chapter

1182
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: after this show. Raps