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Speaker 1: What's happened?

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Speaker 2: Everybody.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to a Friday edition, a TGIF finition of Texans

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Speaker 1: All Access. And if you sent a little bit more

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Speaker 1: excitement in my voice, I am John Harris Football on

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Speaker 1: the sideline reporter for your Houston Texans. It is because

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Speaker 1: they were football players on grass doing drills, there were

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Speaker 1: coaches instructing, there were immedia people to watch. It was awesome.

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Speaker 1: Mark Vandermier was so great to be back on the

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Speaker 1: grass today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really great because the last time we

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Speaker 3: were out there, I remember saying this prior to the

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Speaker 3: Ravens game, the playoff game, and I thought, please, let's

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Speaker 3: not have this be the last practice. When we stepped

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Speaker 3: off the field that what was it a Friday, Thursday whenever?

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Speaker 3: It was before we got on the plane the next day,

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Speaker 3: and it was the last practice of the season. And

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Speaker 3: now we have the first practice of twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 3: which is a rookie camp practice. Now the team's been

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Speaker 3: out there doing individual stuff for weeks, the entirety of

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Speaker 3: the squad or most of the guys anyway, and they'll

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Speaker 3: do eleven on eleven starting I think the week after next.

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Speaker 4: I believe that's the program goes. That's exactly how the

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Speaker 4: program goes.

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Speaker 3: So we'll be out there in a couple of weeks

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Speaker 3: and report to you as to what's going on out

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Speaker 3: there and how they look and everything and ultra dissect

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Speaker 3: every little bit of it because that's what we do.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I enjoyed see the guys out there today.

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Speaker 3: Johnny was great to be in the football mode once again.

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Speaker 1: Right. It was the start of quote unquote rookie mini camp.

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Speaker 1: Now it's there's only so much they can do because

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Speaker 1: they only have a select number of rookie bodies. In fact,

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Speaker 1: that leads me to the start of the show today.

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Speaker 1: Some transactions and when it comes to rookie signings, these

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Speaker 1: aren't as they aren't like they used to be. CBA

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Speaker 1: in twenty eleven is the one that kind of changed

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Speaker 1: all that slotted rookie money all that. So really kind

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Speaker 1: of holding out just didn't do anything for you.

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Speaker 4: You like your slot money? Is this all right?

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Speaker 1: Sign it? So the Texans have signed two, four, six,

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Speaker 1: seven of their nine draft picks. They signed Solomon byrd USC,

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Speaker 1: Marcus Harris Stevens, tack from Auburn, Various Henderson and a

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Speaker 1: guard played tackle in Michigan, Juar Jordan running back out

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Speaker 1: of Louisville, Kamar Lassiter from Georgia, Kate Stover from a

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Speaker 1: house state. Blake Fisher and Kaylen Bullock not signed, but

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Speaker 1: they were still participating in practice, don't you worry. They

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Speaker 1: were out there and they were experiencing some of the heat.

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Speaker 1: Blake Fisher talked about it, and I know a lot

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Speaker 1: of you are like, wait, heat, what it wasn't even

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Speaker 1: that hot to day? Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Caause you live in Houston.

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Speaker 1: You get these guys are moving to Houston, and you

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Speaker 1: could just see some of.

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Speaker 4: The guys that were like yo.

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Speaker 1: Even Kamara Lassiter said at his press conference he checked

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Speaker 1: the weather before practice.

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Speaker 4: He's like, ah, it's eighty. It's good. And he walked

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Speaker 4: out and said that it's in eighty.

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Speaker 1: And that's exactly what these guys have to learn, because

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Speaker 1: when you get the training camp, I think of the

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Speaker 1: way out Blake Fisher, I heard him say, this is

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Speaker 1: the hottest I've ever been.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, oh boy, oh.

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Speaker 1: Boy, get ready now. The Texans also had signed and

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Speaker 1: announced the signings of the following undraft the free agents.

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Speaker 1: Tweak Barnes from my Illinois British Brooks running back from

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Speaker 1: North Carolina, the Yankee Twins Jaden Jackson six three two ten,

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Speaker 1: twenty four years old, both rookies, and it's really hard

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Speaker 1: to tell apart it is. It is very difficult to

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Speaker 3: Obviously different numbers, but I call them the jack Rabbits

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Speaker 3: because that's the sounds to go to South Coast.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Felderia's pain defensive van front of Virginia Tech. Max

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Speaker 1: Tooley linebacker from BYU two four six, So only six undrafted.

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Speaker 1: Because as we've talked about before, this is this is

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Speaker 1: a veteran squad, to be honest, even though some of

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Speaker 1: this is solely for the rookies. So they brought in

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Speaker 1: and that was it. You had some tryout guys, and then.

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Speaker 3: Of them had the same number of some of the

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Speaker 3: other guys, and I thought, this is a situation that's

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Speaker 3: interesting because they don't need to. They probably have enough

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Speaker 3: a tryout guy, and one of them just share a number.

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Speaker 3: This is interesting to me because I'm a play by

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Speaker 3: One of the players out there, tryout player, was the

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Speaker 3: quarterback from Georgia Southern, Davis Sprint David Brynt. Yeah, his

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Speaker 3: name is Davis. We have another Davis quarterback, so you

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Speaker 3: know where I'm going with this. And there's a quarterbacks

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Speaker 3: coach in Denver, former quarterback Davis Webb. If we had

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Speaker 4: Of Davis's, but we won't.

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Speaker 3: And Davis Brynn is a long shot to be here

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Speaker 3: for any like the time.

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Speaker 1: But he does throw the ball nicely. We watched him

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Speaker 1: some at george Southern. Actually, I guess shows this sickness.

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Speaker 1: One night, I just was watching Georgia Southern. Georgia State

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Speaker 1: I'm like, man, it's a really fun ballgame. And Georgia

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Speaker 1: State was pretty good last year. The Panthers banned a

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Speaker 4: We talked about that last week.

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Speaker 1: They're leaving. They're saying, hey, I've established myself now, I

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Speaker 1: bigger opportunity. And that's what's happening across college football. But

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Speaker 1: that's not what today is about. Today is about basically

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Speaker 1: our observations from what we saw at camp. And look,

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Speaker 1: we can still have observations about things. In fact, some

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Speaker 1: of the observations I even have about it really didn't

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Speaker 1: even have to do a lot with the rookies themselves.

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Speaker 1: But we'll start with the rookies themselves. Mark, was there

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Speaker 1: anything as you watch the guys move around and you went, hey, wow, okay,

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Speaker 4: The way that guy moves. I like the look of

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Speaker 1: What you thought.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be careful with sentences like I like the

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Speaker 3: way that guy moves. But I'm gonna tell you this

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Speaker 3: And that was two weeks ago with Mick. But one

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Speaker 3: noticed right away. And I'll go back to eleven years ago.

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Speaker 3: It was twenty thirteen. They had a squad out there

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Speaker 3: for rookie camp, tryout camp. They had case Keenum, Colin

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Speaker 3: had all the rookies out there, undrafted and drafted, and

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Speaker 3: they had a bazillion tryout guys out there.

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Speaker 4: I think they had a whole roster.

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Speaker 3: They must have had ten tryout guys out there, at

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Speaker 3: the forties. It was a full squad workout a couple

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Speaker 3: of them, and I remember talking to Gary Kuback. That's

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Speaker 3: do well here. He's gonna push guys. He was looking

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Speaker 3: and he does look good, but let's see what happens

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Speaker 3: when Shab gets back and Yates get back gets back,

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Speaker 3: and we all know what happened in twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 4: But that stood out to me.

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Speaker 3: The lack, I don't want to say lack, but a

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Speaker 3: position group breakdowns because you literally had one offensive lineman

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Speaker 3: they had you know, defensive tackle and live. But it's

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Speaker 3: funny to see one or two guys in every position

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, that's what it is. It's rookie camp. You

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Speaker 3: It's fun for the coaches to have these young guys,

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Speaker 3: but they've been out there with the veterans, like we said,

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Speaker 3: doing individual work, and I'm sure they can't wait to

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Speaker 3: get eleven on eleven some real competition going.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And that's what Dimiko talked about his press conference.

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Speaker 1: He talked about the teaching that has to be done,

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Blake Fisher was funny. He took he was at the

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Speaker 1: was looking for the cafeteria. He ended up in the

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Speaker 1: he ended up in the training room. And they're right

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Speaker 4: So it's easy.

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Speaker 1: You take a left at Albuquerque or you take it right,

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Speaker 1: so that's what next week is gonna be for them.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be the rookies with UH, with the full

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Speaker 1: squad kind of going through the conditioning. And then I

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Speaker 1: think the week of the twentieth, I believe that's when

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Speaker 1: they'll have I think OTA starting then and you'll see

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Speaker 1: as much as the squad. Again, OTA's voluntary, I feel

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Speaker 1: like you have to say that's voluntary. Mini camp at

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Speaker 1: the end will be mandatory. But that's for a different time.

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Speaker 1: Talking about just what we saw today. I'll give you

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Speaker 1: a I'll give you a player one, okay, Mark, and

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Speaker 1: I talked about a little bit, but I would say

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Speaker 1: the player one. I know there's been a lot made

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Speaker 1: like I listen, I read, Oh, Kamara laste he's a

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Speaker 1: four to six? Is that make a manickel guy? Whatever,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say what I said Draft Knight. And I

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Speaker 1: heard somebody say this, and it may have been to Miko,

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Speaker 1: maybe been Nick. I think Nick maybe said it. I

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Speaker 1: never got the feeling when I watched Kamaria last ter.

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Speaker 1: The number of times that I have and I can't,

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Speaker 1: I mean it was probably half a dozen if it

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Speaker 1: was once. Bear was never a time where I felt

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Speaker 1: like Kamari Laster slow. I've never felt like that. So

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Speaker 1: watching him it just confirmed what I what i'd seen.

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Speaker 1: He's very well put together and he is quick. He

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Speaker 1: is very quick. Balls thrown in front or your routes

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Speaker 1: in front, you could just see him break. His transitional

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Speaker 1: quickness is incredible. He ran a six six ' two

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Speaker 1: that's incredible. That was one of the best times there

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Speaker 1: was in the entire in the entire thing, I don't

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Speaker 3: I thought, I'm going to be a much better special

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Speaker 1: And you're gonna watch it during practice now, No, it's

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Speaker 1: Didn't get a ton of carries, obviously because Marion Hampton.

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Speaker 3: I could never full back hands like fish before. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: If you have hands of fish that you can't catch it,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's gonna be a zone scheme

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Speaker 1: The former method. Yeah, so it's gonna be interesting.

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Speaker 3: I've been watching, Johnny, and I know they're doubleheaders Saturday

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Speaker 1: I mean it's it's you know, a lot of people

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Speaker 3: Well, think about it, we've gone through four different coaching

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Speaker 3: and then twenty twenty three brand new with Dimiko and

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Speaker 3: the support staff. It's the extra people who really help

436
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Speaker 3: behind the scenes. You have continuity there as well. I

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Speaker 3: agree with you. You pointed that out when I walked

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Speaker 3: out to the field today, and I said, that's a

439
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Speaker 3: great point because I felt so comfortable myself not having

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Speaker 3: to get to know a lot of new people, like

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Speaker 3: you know, hey, we're back, let's go, and they like that.

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Speaker 3: Plus last year's rookies and you brought this up, last

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Speaker 3: year's rookies are this year's veterans. Will Anderson Tamiko said,

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Speaker 3: if you want to know who to follow, your rookie,

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Speaker 3: follow fifty one. He's the guy. Well what did we

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Speaker 3: say when Will was drafted to me? I said, I

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Speaker 3: don't even I'm not in the locker room, but I

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Speaker 3: knew that guy's going to run the locker room.

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Speaker 4: You can just tell.

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Speaker 3: He's that guy that kind of spliting to happen eventually,

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Speaker 3: and he is the man now to a rookie, I

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Speaker 3: want to be like him.

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Speaker 4: It was Rookie of the Year.

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Speaker 3: Literally follow him, do what he does and things will

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Speaker 3: turn out as well as they possibly could.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was a great comment by to Miko.

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Speaker 4: It's a great point by you. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Will Anderson immediately was just he said, at point blank,

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Speaker 1: if you don't know what to do, watch fifty one.

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Speaker 1: And I thought, boy, that's high praise. And it goes

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Speaker 1: all the way back to Draft nine. At twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: They knew they were drafting a great player, but what

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Speaker 1: they knew about Will Anderson was they were getting a

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Speaker 1: culture shifter, a culture changer, and un that word is

466
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Speaker 1: used way too often about culture, but it really has changed.

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Speaker 1: That you have that guy in the locker room that

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Speaker 1: they're going up to him at the Pro Bowl saying, hey, man,

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Speaker 1: I'd love to come to Houston. He's saying, you may

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Speaker 1: not be a good fit in Houston. Em there's a

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Speaker 1: special thing we got going on in Houston. You may

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Speaker 1: not be the right fit, but if you are, come on,

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Speaker 1: let's go.

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Speaker 3: It's funny with the word culture and the concept. It's

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Speaker 3: almost as if the more you talk about it, do

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Speaker 3: you really have it? But we're observing their culture. I

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Speaker 3: don't think they talk about the culture. They have the culture.

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Speaker 3: They live the culture. And it's great to follow somebody,

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Speaker 3: to model yourself after. Somebody in any workplace, somebody is

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Speaker 3: really successful salesperson, whatever the case may be. I remember

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Speaker 3: Arian Foster talking about Andre Johnson. They play a different position,

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Speaker 3: but Arian talked about ooh that guy. That guy's a

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Speaker 3: total prop. The way he goes about his business, the

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Speaker 3: way he conducts himself.

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Speaker 4: I need to be like that. Now.

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Speaker 3: Arian did press conferences in Terra Dactyl at Tennessee. I

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Speaker 3: think he did want was he speaking Spanish or English?

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Speaker 4: English?

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Speaker 3: Sharrion, Andre Johnson doesn't do that. And Arrian eventually allowed

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Speaker 3: his personality to take shape along with his fine play.

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Speaker 4: But to get the bier movie, yeah, to get to

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Speaker 4: the ball rolling.

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Speaker 3: He emulated Andre Johnson's professional ability. And I'd love to

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Speaker 3: hear Andre Johnson, to hear him do British Andrea.

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Speaker 4: I don't think what one thing we're never gonna see.

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Speaker 1: Who is always the guy, no matter who we brought

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Speaker 1: in here, who was always the guy offense or defense

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Speaker 1: that they said was the first guy to step up

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Speaker 1: to them on the sideline and talk to them every

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Speaker 1: time they came off the field. Jonathan Joseph, Yeah, Jjo

501
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Speaker 1: was the same way. He was the same way. You

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Speaker 1: follow what twenty four does. What he does, you do

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Speaker 1: And that's kind of the thing now with fifty one

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Speaker 1: with Will Anderson.

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Speaker 4: It's really nice to watch.

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Speaker 3: Jjo must really not want to coach. God, he must

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Speaker 3: really not want to. Here's here's a player who could

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Speaker 3: be a fine coach. Oh yeah, see, this is what

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Speaker 3: I thought about with Demko. People always ask me, did

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Speaker 3: you always knew? Did you always know he's going to

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Speaker 3: be a coach. I didn't know he was going to

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Speaker 3: be a coach, right, I always knew he could be

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Speaker 3: a coach.

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Speaker 4: That I had that feeling.

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Speaker 3: But some guys don't want to coach because they just

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Speaker 3: don't want to go through what it takes to coach.

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Speaker 3: I can't speak for Jjo, but I got a feeling

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Speaker 3: that if he really wanted to coach, he'd be coaching

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Speaker 3: right now.

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Speaker 1: I got it. The thing you can get a job

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Speaker 1: because here's here's the thing that coaches have to to

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Speaker 1: have to understand, or you know, something like Jjo. If

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Speaker 1: the bug gets you, if the bug hits you, because

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Speaker 1: I could speak to this wholeheartedly, if the bug hits you,

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Speaker 1: you gotta go all you gotta go all the way in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean all the way. He can't just be

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Speaker 3: a consultant, right something, you have to.

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Speaker 4: Go all the way in. If that bug hit you.

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Speaker 1: Now the flip side of that is nah, not really

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Speaker 1: for me, not really for me.

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Speaker 4: This is, you know, prime in my life.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I want to give that time to it. So if

534
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Speaker 1: the bug hits you, you gotta go all the way.

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Speaker 1: You just gotta go. You gotta go. You have to

536
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Speaker 1: go do it because nothing else will give you the

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Speaker 1: satisfaction when that bug hits you. And I hit me

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Speaker 1: a long long time ago, and I'm coaching seventh and

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Speaker 1: eighth graders, but it hit me. It was like ah,

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Speaker 1: and I didn't want to coach. I didn't want to coach.

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Speaker 1: And maybe in two years, Ja Jo's like, no, I'm ready.

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Speaker 1: I know what it's gonna take. And in a couple

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Speaker 1: of years I'll be ready and whatever the case might be.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, he would be a fine coach, but he was.

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Speaker 1: He was also a culture setter as well. Drew Doherty

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Speaker 1: is a culture seter for us, and he joins me

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Speaker 1: in the life next right here on Texans All Access.

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Speaker 1: Step and everybody, Welcome back this Friday edition to Texans

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Speaker 1: All Access from Monday Texans Radio Studio.

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Speaker 2: I'm your host, John.

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Speaker 1: Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter for your Houston, Texans. This

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Speaker 4: Let's go John, what's up, dude?

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Speaker 5: Som Hey, thank you you watching or listening. In addition

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Speaker 5: to me and John, the three of us here appreciate

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Speaker 5: that it's good to be with you. Make sure you're

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Speaker 5: subscribing to YouTube, the Texans YouTube channel, so you get

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Speaker 5: this quickly and promptly.

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Speaker 4: Yep. On a Wednesday, Yep, Happy Wednesday to you. John.

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Speaker 5: Want to rewind just a tenC tiny bit to the weekend.

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Speaker 5: I was at the JJ Watt Charity Classic. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 5: it was awesome. That thing since he started it in

567
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Speaker 5: twenty thirteen was awesome. He did it thirteen fourteen to

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Speaker 5: fifteen their Constellation field, and then he switched it over

569
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Speaker 5: to minute May for them two three seasons. More COVID

570
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Speaker 5: injuries kind of put that on pause and then he

571
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Speaker 5: went to Arizona. But he brought it back this year,

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Speaker 5: and thank goodness he did because it was just like,

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Speaker 5: I mean, just like the old days, which if you've

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Speaker 5: not been to that event, get tickets next time it

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Speaker 5: comes around. Because I think it's going to come around again.

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Speaker 5: I think he's going to keep doing this. All the

577
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Speaker 5: former players were there that he was palaced with, not all,

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Speaker 5: but many of them. Many of the current players were there.

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Speaker 5: Stefan Diggs was there. Landers.

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Speaker 4: It was awesome and there.

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Speaker 5: It's fun seeing dudes that you pigeonholed into. This is

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Speaker 5: what they are, their football players doing something that they're

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Speaker 5: not softball players. And even though John the current guys

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Speaker 5: got smoked fourteen, they put a charity run on the

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Speaker 5: board for him. The one they didn't score that they

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Speaker 5: get it was they they got destroyed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but even though.

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Speaker 5: Oh these the current players got got destroyed, they're still

589
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Speaker 5: like they did some stuff in the field. Every once

590
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Speaker 5: in a while you're like, oh, yeah, those guys are

591
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Speaker 5: professional athletes that you like just trying like they could

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Speaker 5: have turned a double play if they had known to

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Speaker 5: throw it a first, but just cover the bag, getting

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Speaker 5: the fielding things cleanly.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like that's that's.

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Speaker 5: Pretty cool, you know, And I guess that's the eight

597
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Speaker 5: year old baseball coach and me seeing a ball go

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Speaker 5: up in the air and then just like Jack in

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Speaker 5: the box, out of the glove once it gets to

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Speaker 5: the glove with the eight year olds, didn't happen? I

601
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Speaker 5: mean back in the box, you know everybody.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, with NFL, you know, these conversations come up. Austin

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Speaker 1: Rivers started this and obviously was looking for clicks, controlling people,

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Speaker 1: and they could take thirty people out of the NBA

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Speaker 1: and put him in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Like, no, you could maybe a few you maybe there

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Speaker 4: are some that have positions.

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Speaker 1: Right, There are some that have the side, you know,

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Speaker 1: like look, Julius Pepper's you know, once played college basketball

610
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Speaker 1: and he was like the sixth seventh guy in that team.

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Speaker 4: Not an player though, but he was not an.

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Speaker 1: NBA player, and he was a guy that you know,

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Speaker 1: ends up obviously being a Hall of Fame player in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. It's they're just I I always get frustrated

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Speaker 1: with this conversation because to be a professional athlete in

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Speaker 1: a sport, you have to be so good at that

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Speaker 1: particular sport that at some point you have to specialize

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Speaker 1: in it. And there are some over the years that

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Speaker 1: have shown the athletic ability to play a couple of

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Speaker 1: sports in professional and professional sports. And it's incredible to

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Speaker 1: see Dean Sanders play baseball and football in the same

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Speaker 1: freaking day.

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Speaker 4: It was was on real Bo Jackson what he was

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Speaker 4: doing and others.

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Speaker 1: But baseball is one of those that if you haven't

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Speaker 1: thrown a baseball, you haven't hit a baseball, you will

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Speaker 1: look absolutely foolish when you go it on a field

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Speaker 1: and try and do it, even if you haven't done

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Speaker 1: it in a long time, like I have done it

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Speaker 1: a long time. It would take a while for it

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Speaker 1: to come back for me. But I played it in fact,

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Speaker 1: you know, almost played in college. But baseball is so

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Speaker 1: specific you know football in some sense, and some people

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Speaker 1: will say this, but this is this is true in

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Speaker 1: some cases, like you just take the guy awes from

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Speaker 1: you and you just get in a big sumo fight

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Speaker 1: with him.

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Speaker 4: You can win that.

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Speaker 1: You know, obviously we know it's more technical than that,

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Speaker 1: but sometimes it comes down to that. Sometimes in football

641
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Speaker 1: you can run right by a guy and go catch

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Speaker 1: a pass. That's just one part of the game Baseball,

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Speaker 1: like if you're if you're hitting the ball, like.

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Speaker 4: There's you hit the ball, that's it. There's no you

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Speaker 4: hit the ball, you feel the ball, you throw the ball,

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Speaker 4: that's it. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So and baseball and softball there's that jiggles things a

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Speaker 5: little bit.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, baseball and softball is definitely different.

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Speaker 5: Titus Howard was talking about because Titus when he was

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Speaker 5: in high school was a really good baseball player.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, lefty pitcher, and he could hit.

654
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Speaker 5: And when he got up and when he was hitting

655
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Speaker 5: in the home run derby and when he was hitting

656
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Speaker 5: at the plate, you could tell that guy's played before. Yeah,

657
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 5: that guy's very good. But he wasn't getting all that.

658
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Speaker 5: And he was talking about it.

659
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Speaker 4: On the side.

660
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Speaker 5: He's like, you gotta He's like, first of all, you

661
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 5: guys gotta move forward in the box because the balls,

662
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 5: like he had all the technical stuff. Yeh yeah, He's like,

663
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 5: I gotta, I gotta get a different bat because I

664
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Speaker 5: can't swing this bap up up. So even he was

665
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Speaker 5: adjusting to that, and it's so much so whereas you

666
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Speaker 5: got Shane Leckler who's playing softball all the time. He's

667
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Speaker 5: coaching his daughters, who are they're really Yeah, they're in

668
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 5: high school. They're gonna play in college if they want to. Yeah,

669
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Speaker 5: And he's just smacking down. I mean, he's being Shane Lackler.

670
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 5: He's good at everything. Kate Lecler is good at everything.

671
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Speaker 5: He didn't already know that Shane Leckler. When he was

672
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 5: in high school, he was all state as an outside linebacker, quarterback,

673
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 5: and punter on the football team. I think they won

674
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Speaker 5: a state title or they got to the state title

675
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 5: game in basketball. I believe he won or was in

676
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Speaker 5: the final round of the state title in golf. And

677
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 5: he was a hell of a baseball player. He took

678
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Speaker 5: them deep into the playoffs. I mean, I think he

679
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Speaker 5: might have been All state in all four sports.

680
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Speaker 4: He was incredible. He's phenomenally.

681
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Speaker 1: He's still incredible. He's still an athlete. Is he is

682
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: texting to the core with all that he can do.

683
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Speaker 1: It's it's pretty incredible. But you're right about the baseball

684
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Speaker 1: softball thing.

685
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Speaker 4: When I was.

686
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Speaker 1: Inference when I was in college, our Buddy Lands Airline,

687
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Speaker 1: he said, hey, man, wann't you you want to come play?

688
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 4: Because I would come home for the summers.

689
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Speaker 1: I was really the only one for my class that

690
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Speaker 1: would come home from the summers because I was working

691
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Speaker 1: at amacal pipeline out in Texas City, So I would

692
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Speaker 1: drive an hour fifteen minutes there and back every single

693
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Speaker 1: day to have this job, though I would turn into

694
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Speaker 1: an engineering job in Chicago, and it did, and then

695
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Speaker 1: it didn't, and now I'm here. But I remember when

696
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: he asked me to come play. He's like, you know, softball,

697
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Speaker 1: you know, I have fun and playing center field and

698
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Speaker 1: all that.

699
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Speaker 4: I was like, okay, and I loved it.

700
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Speaker 1: But man, I'm telling you, the first two games I

701
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:31,719
Speaker 1: didn't touch a ball.

702
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Speaker 4: I just I couldn't do it.

703
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Speaker 1: It was I was so used to baseball where the

704
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Speaker 1: timing had to be there. And then finally I started

705
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Speaker 1: getting my timing down and went to you know, the

706
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Speaker 1: slow pitch, like wait for it, and then I just

707
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: started hitting the line drives all over the place. But

708
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Speaker 1: it took me a good two games to kind of

709
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Speaker 1: figure it all out. So if you haven't done that

710
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: even that before, it's going to be tough on that

711
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: slow pitch stuff. Man, it's tough. But uh, such a

712
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: great event. Thanks to JJ for doing that and what

713
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: it brings to the Houston community, and obviously his chair.

714
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: He's what he's been doing for what he's done with

715
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: his charity. You know, for the whole time that he's

716
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: been in houston's been incredible. He's never he's never forgotten

717
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: about us. Even though he moved on to Arizona for

718
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: a few years, he's never forgotten about this place. And

719
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: it's just been incredible to watch and incredible for people

720
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: to experience that.

721
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 5: He's probably watching or listening right now, I mean up

722
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 5: there with Dave Howard. Shout out Dave Howard, good to

723
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 5: see you, good to hear you. I think those two

724
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 5: are probably the the alpha hyper consumers of this podcast.

725
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 4: Absolutely Watt and Dave, so JJ thank you.

726
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, keeping this, not that you're gonna, not that you're

727
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 5: considering not doing it, but you keep doing it.

728
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Speaker 4: It's it's phenomenal.

729
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 5: We love you, and uh, we wouldn't mind seeing in

730
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 5: the football field if that happens.

731
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Speaker 4: Be kind of fun.

732
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Speaker 5: But anyways, that's neither here nor there. Let's talk about

733
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 5: some over unders schedule release wise. Okay, you and Mark

734
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 5: have been killing it on Texans All Access recently because

735
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 5: hey it was made the fourth weekend, so because of

736
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Speaker 5: the Star Wars stuff. He brought up the villainry, the

737
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 5: villains that the Texans hierarchy of evil that you did

738
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Speaker 5: a mock non mock draft. You've done many, but you

739
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 5: got a mock schedule for the Texans. Yeah, it's an

740
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 5: article on Houston Texans dot com. Read that you guys

741
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 5: talked about it at length over the last few nights.

742
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Speaker 5: It's been awesome. You guys. If you aren't listening to

743
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 5: Text Texans All Access, something's wrong with you. You're not

744
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 5: really a true Texans fan. But hey, if you're listening

745
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 5: to this, you JJ, you Dave, and you also the

746
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Speaker 5: other person.

747
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 4: You guys. Yeah, thank you. Okay, John over under.

748
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 5: Three and a half primetime games the Texans will have

749
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty four. Primetime includes primetime, is not just

750
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Speaker 5: at night. Primetime would include Thanksgiving, a Thanksgiving, a Christmas,

751
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 5: a London, just a time when that's the only game

752
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 5: that's on and it's the one you're gonna watch.

753
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Speaker 1: In my schedule, I went over. I had four I

754
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Speaker 1: had four night games. Okay, I should put that in quotes.

755
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: I'm doing my air quotes. I have four night games.

756
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: I had opener Monday night against the Jets, had a

757
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Speaker 1: Sunday night at Kansas City at a Sunday night home

758
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: against the Bills and at Monday night home against the Lions.

759
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Speaker 1: So that would be two night games on the road,

760
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Speaker 1: two night games at home. Then I had Thanksgiving against Dallas.

761
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Speaker 1: I just felt like that was the best matchup just

762
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Speaker 1: looking at the teams that Dallas was playing, Like, man,

763
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Speaker 1: what would make a really good Thanksgiving?

764
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Speaker 4: This makes a great Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: And then I don't know if it's considered prime time,

766
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Speaker 1: but you know the Saturday games in December, it's always

767
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Speaker 1: the Saturday games. They'd give you the both dates, either

768
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Speaker 1: this or that.

769
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Speaker 5: I think if it's the only game that's on at

770
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Speaker 5: that time, I think that's a prime time right.

771
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Speaker 1: So I gave them a Saturday game. Okay, so four

772
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Speaker 1: night games Thanksgiving, and then that's Saturday. So that's six

773
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Speaker 1: that ends up being I guess you're kind of from

774
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Speaker 1: that ways, who's a Saturday?

775
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:48,479
Speaker 4: Would you think?

776
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Speaker 1: It's Minnesota at Minnesota, Thanksgiving at Dallas, and then Saturday,

777
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Speaker 1: December twenty eighth at Minnesota. So that was the Minnesota game?

778
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Speaker 1: Is sandwich in And this is what was interesting. I

779
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Speaker 1: didn't even know this, but as I was going, as

780
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Speaker 1: I wrote this and sent it in posted Mark's looking

781
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: at it, and he looks at it and goes, WHOA.

782
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Speaker 1: The last three games I had were home Indy. Oh no, no, no,

783
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Speaker 1: it was at Indy, at Minnesota, home Indianapolis.

784
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Speaker 4: That's the exact order of teams we played in twenty twelve. Yeah. Yeah,

785
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Speaker 4: And I didn't realized that.

786
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Speaker 1: But at twenty twelve we played home home, home road.

787
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Speaker 1: This one would be road road home either way. I

788
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Speaker 1: didn't even look at the twenty twenty four schedule, but

789
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Speaker 1: what I noticed about it was we played the exact

790
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 1: same teams, except for we played Denver instead of Kansas City.

791
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Speaker 1: And then you add on Dallas because we have the

792
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Speaker 1: seventeenth game, So we're playing the exact teams we played

793
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Speaker 1: in twenty two.

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Speaker 4: I didn't even notice that.

795
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Speaker 5: To flop the homes with the roads espe NFC north

796
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Speaker 5: right right, don't go to Chicago, and you don't go

797
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 5: to they come here, they come here.

798
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Speaker 4: So you flipped that you're playing the same team. I'm

799
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Speaker 4: like wow.

800
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Speaker 1: So then I started looking at the similarities that I

801
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: had in the twenty twelve schedule. We had four night games,

802
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: we had a Thanksgiving game, yep, and then we had

803
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Speaker 1: the end of the schedule, which was those teams Indye,

804
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 1: Minnesota Indie to end the schedule, and uh.

805
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 4: We are like there was one other because there's similarity.

806
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Speaker 1: I can't think of right now, but I started looking

807
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 1: at twenty twelve and I thought of mylastkas was like, whoa,

808
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: that's weird. That's strange because in twenty twelve we had

809
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 1: played Chicago on Sunday night and Chicago was good.

810
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, played a.

811
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Speaker 1: Monday night at New England, which everybody unfortunately remembers for

812
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: the wrong reasons.

813
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 4: Played Sunday night against the Packers. Yeah, here was the

814
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Speaker 4: first loss of the season.

815
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Speaker 5: You were five and zero at yeah, game in that

816
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 5: was tough, and then you had lost Cushing the week before,

817
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 5: and then then you had to that. I still think

818
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 5: losing Cushing like that and having a trade away to

819
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Speaker 5: Miko in the off season significantly depress.

820
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Speaker 1: That's why I asked, well, we did the hierarchy of evil.

821
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: I'll ask you drew the hierarchy evil. I wanted to

822
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: put in Matt's lost Jets offensive line and Matt's lawson.

823
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, now he's the guy that doved Bushing's leg right.

824
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: And he got some run, but it was not enough.

825
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: To get him in the hierarchy of evil. But I

826
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: said the same thing. I'm like, you'd already lost the Miko,

827
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: now you lose cushion, and now you're just trying to

828
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: patch work it together for the rest of the year.

829
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Speaker 1: And you were super talented everywhere else in the field,

830
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: and guys were just you had to try and get

831
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: the most out of Brady James and Barrett Rude and

832
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: you get to New England, you're toast.

833
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 5: Dude, I still have not had a chance to do this.

834
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 5: There's going to come a time when you know the

835
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 5: situation is right. But I want to ask Nick Cassario

836
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 5: this when he has a moment there's no stress going on,

837
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 5: I want to ask him. Hey, ahead of that twelve

838
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 5: Monday night football matchup, was Belichick basically like this was

839
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 5: he like, Okay, well they've got a good defensive line,

840
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 5: corners are sold good good back in with Danielle Man.

841
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 4: Ing m m m m m m Ning, Barrett Rude,

842
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 4: Brady James.

843
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that went off like them that that

844
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 5: must have and then what they do they'd attacked them

845
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 5: with wide receivers, running backs and just anyhow.

846
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's that's I guarantee you that's exactly

847
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: what they did. Knowing how they knowing how they approach things.

848
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: I guarantee they looked at it and went, wait a second,

849
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: we've got we've got running backs that can beat these guys.

850
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 4: They were past receiving running backs over the years, whether

851
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 4: it was James White, whether it was Stephen.

852
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: Ridley, Shane Verene, James White, any of those guys that

853
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: they had, Like, hey, when those guys in a game

854
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: and you could I remember there was one There's one

855
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: moment in that game and I was doing overnights at

856
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: that time, so I'm watching the game like getting ready

857
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 1: for my show, and I see like on the couch

858
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: watching it in studio and I'm watching going, oh god,

859
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: oh god, please no, They've got Rude on on. Oh no,

860
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: Rud's on Veren, oh no. And you could just see it.

861
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: It was just like this beacon of light going, They're

862
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 1: gonna the rudest guy.

863
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 5: Rude could probably have handled that like seven years per Yeah.

864
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 5: I think the textas had pulled him off pouch in November.

865
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 5: Really good guy. I remember the first time I heard

866
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 5: him spoke, I went up and I was I introduced

867
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 5: myself in the locker room, and his locker was somewhat

868
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 5: near Sean Cody's, and Cody heard him spoke and Cody was.

869
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 4: Like, ears pricked up. He's like, hey, brother, you got

870
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 4: a really good deep voice. I like that voice of years.

871
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 4: So that's pretty good. That's pretty good.

872
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 5: I uh, that's man. I could see that happening. Your

873
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 5: scenario with six, I think the number will be a

874
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 5: little bit lower than that. I still think it hits

875
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 5: the over three and a half.

876
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: Yea.

877
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 5: My only quibble with yours is I think the NFL

878
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 5: will put one of the primetime games, whether it's a

879
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 5: Saturday afternooner, whether it's you know, one of the others.

880
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 4: I think one of them is going to be a

881
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 4: divisional matchup. Yeah, you know, I just think about it. Yeah,

882
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 4: I know, what.

883
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 5: A what a season the Texans had, but you were

884
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 5: one play away there from at the EL. Get that

885
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 5: conversion late, what happen? Things are different, you know. And

886
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 5: that's a pretty good team with a quarterback who I

887
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 5: think we all think Anthony Richardson's gonna be better than

888
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 5: Gardner minshew. You know, I just think that and Trevor Lawrence.

889
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 5: What if they bounced back. They've added some stuff. Man,

890
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 5: the Tennessee Titans have, They've got some weapons. I think

891
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 5: this is a good division. No, I a lot of crap,

892
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 5: and I think you're going to see a divisional matchup

893
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 5: slid in there, and I think it's gonna be a

894
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 5: hell of a game.

895
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 4: I know disagree, I think, and Mark and I talked

896
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 4: about this.

897
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 1: I think if it's going to be a division matchup,

898
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be when that gets flexed in.

899
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: Think so, I think it's gonna be when that gets

900
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 1: flexed in like last year. And that's why I got

901
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: the Colts at the end of the year because I

902
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: very I think it could very easily come down to

903
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 1: the Colts again. I mean the Jaguars matchups, I don't

904
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: I didn't have the Jaguars matchups in periods where it

905
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:55,479
Speaker 1: could get flexed the Titans. One of the Titans could

906
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: depending on what the Titans do, but the one tight

907
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: and two Cults are in positions where they could easily

908
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: get flexed.

909
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 4: So I kind of had that as.

910
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: A thought process as I went through, Like, I don't

911
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 1: think they would give a straight up just AFC South. Now,

912
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: I do think they could Thursday night. They could do

913
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: a Thursday night. But since I had the Texans penciled

914
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: in with the Cowboys on Thanksgiving, I thought, well.

915
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 4: No, it doesn't mean that they don't.

916
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: They can't have a Thursday night because I think the Cowboys,

917
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, the Cowboys played on a Thanksgiving

918
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: afternoon and then played on Thursday the next week.

919
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 4: If I remember correct, that's happened. Absolutely, it has happened

920
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 4: in their history.

921
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: So the Texans could have that Thanksgiving game and then

922
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: have a Thursday game some other time, which I don't

923
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: know if that will happen. You know, it's been done before.

924
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: But I have felt like the division game, if it's

925
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 1: going to be a division game, it's.

926
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 4: Gonna be flexed.

927
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 1: Well, well, they don't think to your point, Drew, I

928
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: don't know that people truly understand how good and how

929
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: competitive this division could.

930
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 4: Actually be in twenty twenty four. Yeah, I think I think.

931
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 4: You do think I do?

932
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, we know, marked, Yeah, I think absolutely, But yeah,

933
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 5: a lot of the stuff I'm seeing on twitters it's

934
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 5: pretty interest Anyways, let's move on bye week before or

935
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 5: after October twentieth. You think it happens when you think

936
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 5: it happens.

937
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 4: I'm saying, after God, I hope. So I hate that I.

938
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: Instead I had it week nine or week ten. I

939
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: tried to put it right in the middle because that's

940
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 1: when I wanted it, and I don't want it right

941
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: in the middle, so I.

942
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 4: Get like November one. That's where I put it.

943
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: Now. Yeah, the early bye just stinks, and it stinks

944
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: for a number of reasons.

945
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 4: I'll give you a couple of selfish ones.

946
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: Number one, if you get to early bye and you're

947
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: early October with that, which pretty much is about when

948
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: it is, you still don't have good weather.

949
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 4: You still have got ninety plus degree weather.

950
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to get it into November where if

951
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have the weekend all if you will, I

952
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: want seventy degrees. I want a little breeze. I want,

953
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: you know, maybe a little cloud cover. I want to

954
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: be able.

955
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 2: To go out and go.

956
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: Yes, I got this weekend and this is great weather

957
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 1: that I you know, I'm not gonna sweat when I

958
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 1: go do everything. I want to have good weather. So

959
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: that's one selfish reason. Secondly, that stretch last year was long, long, long,

960
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: even though even though we're playing well, and playing some

961
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: really exciting games. That was a long stretch because we

962
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: go what we went five games then the bye I

963
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 1: think was week six?

964
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 4: Is that right? Is that right?

965
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,399
Speaker 1: Something like that. It was too early. It was too early.

966
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 1: So I think I put it and we've had it.

967
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: I think for twenty one and twenty two we had

968
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 1: it like right in the middle. Week nine or week ten.

969
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: It was like right in the middle. It was like cool,

970
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 1: I like this, right in the middle. Get a longer

971
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: stretch to start, but then okay, catch your breath and

972
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: then go. You didn't even really kind of get into

973
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: the heart of the season. Also, boom, here's your buye.

974
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I say this perfect world guinea a Monday nighter

975
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 5: in late September. Give me the buye November one, and

976
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 5: give me like a Thursday nighter or two, or a

977
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 5: Thursday night or and a Monday nighter spaced out in

978
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 5: November eight because you get weekends, you know, get get

979
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 5: those get those weekends.

980
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, those weekends are kind of nice to have. Yeah,

981
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: the times, Yeah, absolutely, so I can't remember I put it.

982
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: Go read my article.

983
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 4: You can.

984
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: You can check it out and see where I put it.

985
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: I think it was week nine that I put it in. Okay,

986
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: that's I think that's where I put it because I

987
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: think week ten was a trip to Jacksonville, and I

988
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: think that was an early November, so it was right

989
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: around the last week, so week nine if I'm doing

990
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: my math correct and looking at my calendar, because that's

991
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: what we do in the lab.

992
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 2: That's right, John, That's what we do on in the lab.

993
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 2: All right, we get back. We'll go around in the

994
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 2: NFL some signings.

995
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: If you can hear the first segment, we'll recap the

996
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: texts and signings of rookies and undrafted free agents. That's next,

997
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 1: and Texas All Access we want second with this Friday

998
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: editue of Texans All Access before Area forty five takes over.

999
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Speaker 1: Sean Johnny Patrick Creighton there next. But we got a

1000
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: couple of minutes, so let's knock it out with some

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Speaker 1: to some news. Like I said, Zay Jones, former Jacksonville

1006
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: Jaguar is now signing with the Arizona Cardinals. That's a

1007
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: good pickup for them. They add Marvin Harrison, they add

1008
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: Zay Jones. Kyler Murray's gotta be happy. Last I saw

1009
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. He was knocking out jays from the corner

1010
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: three pointers at the Oklahoma City game last night. Looked

1011
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: pretty darned good, uh doing it. Raey Morris talked at

1012
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 1: Falcons OTA's and he said, Kirk Cousins is pretty much

1013
00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: full go. Hello, Kirk, he is ready to go. He

1014
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: headed achilles injury that he suffered in Minnesota. By midway

1015
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 1: through the year the rehab, he's ready to go. And

1016
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: obviously we know Michael Pennix was drafted there. He was

1017
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: dotting receivers, he was making one ended catches.

1018
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 2: I think the Falcons could be scary hot this year.

1019
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: All this controversy kind of overlooks the fact that they

1020
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: got some dudes. They have some offensive dudes in particular, So, uh,

1021
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: we'll see how that goes for Atlanta. Less need says,

1022
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: you know, the Blake corn pick wasn't controversial. We just

1023
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: can't run down Kyra Williams. I think Kyra Williams is

1024
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: one of the better running backs in the league. Showed

1025
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: it last year. He's a three down back. But if

1026
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 1: you hit him with Blake Koram as your complimentary back man,

1027
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: that's pretty good stuff. So taking some pressure off Matt Stafford,

1028
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: taking pressure off for Kylon Willis, Kyron Williams, and putting

1029
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: in a fresh Blake Korum.

1030
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 2: It's a nice little formula for the La Rams.

1031
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: And remember the Rams are coming to Houston allegedly for

1032
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: joint practices.

1033
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 2: At some point during the preseason.

1034
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: Don't know when, just know that it's going to happen

1035
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: at some point that Kyron Williams and the Rams and

1036
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: Blake Korum will be coming to Houston for some joy practices.

1037
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: The Chicago Bears were the biggest iguinst the bomb of

1038
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: the day starting quarterback.

1039
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 2: Is Kayleb Williams.

1040
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: Well, there's really kind of no conversation about it, apparently,

1041
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: but the Bears named Kavia Williams the started quarterback, which

1042
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 1: I think we all saw coming. Look, we all saw

1043
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: it happening with c J. Stroud, Mark and I talked

1044
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: about this a little bit in between segments. Kind of

1045
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: you knew that CJ. Stroud was taking over as a starter,

1046
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: but the Texans made him go earn it, and he

1047
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: did the way he played during training camp, he earned it.

1048
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 1: Kalla Williams, not you're the guy, no conversation. He's the starter.

1049
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: It's done, Okay. I just that whole thing about naming

1050
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: his starter. I mean people could all wrapped up in that.

1051
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: I just let a guy earn it. I mean, give

1052
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: him all the reps you want. I mean, she got

1053
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: a lot of reps last year.

1054
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 2: He wasn't. He wasn't aching for reps. He got his reps.

1055
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 2: It's just a matter of now with Caleb Williams, he'll

1056
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 2: get his reps and he's the starter. Dinner it handed it.

1057
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens in Chicago.

1058
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: Hopefully you guys had a great time listening to this show,

1059
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,439
Speaker 1: had a great time bringing it to your big thanks

1060
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: to Mark to Drew.

1061
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: Great day at rookie manning camp.

1062
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: Afort So we won't see him tomorrow, but we'll recap

1063
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: everything next week as the schedule drops. Yes, go to

1064
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: Ticketmaster make sure you pick up your tickets for this

1065
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: upcoming schedule.

1066
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Speaker 2: We'll see that everybody, and as always, go Texans.