1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:00,840 Speaker 1: Can't. 2 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 2: I am six forty. You're listening to the John Cobelt 3 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 2: podcast on the iHeartRadio app John Cobelt Show, and we're 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 2: on every day from one until four. And then do 5 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: what millions have done, download the podcast after four o'clock 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: in case you missed the regular radio show. Even people 7 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 2: in Indonesia are downloading the podcast. It's true. People in 8 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 2: Brazil and in Russia and in Ukraine looking at worldwide 9 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: numbers here. 10 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 3: Why why? 11 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: I don't know, Because we're the hottest thing going. That's why. 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: All right, we'll why they did? You're not supposed to question. 13 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: Christy and Paul Ko had been released from a Mexican 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: prison after a dispute with a timeshare company. We have 15 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: a quickie report here from ABC seven to give you 16 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: the background. 17 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 4: The Michigan couple is back home nearly a month after 18 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 4: being taken into custody in Mexico. Family members greeted Paul 19 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 4: and Christy Ako after landing in Lansing, Michigan overnight. The 20 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,279 Speaker 4: couple spent several weeks in a maximum security prison. 21 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: Mexican prosecutors accused. 22 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 4: The couple of trying to defraud a timeshare company, but 23 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 4: they deny any wrongdoing. 24 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 5: You don't know what's happening, and the language barrier is unreal, 25 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 5: and you are trying to figure out what's going on. 26 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 5: And let you know, the Mexican authorities know you know 27 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 5: you need help. 28 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 4: Prosecutors say criminal charges were dismissed after the couple reached 29 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 4: an agreement with the timeshare company. 30 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 2: Now they had refused to pay one hundred and seventeen 31 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: thousand dollars in charges. They were backed up by American 32 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: Express saying that the timeshare company was canceling their reservations 33 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: all the time. Let's get John Manley on atturny four 34 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: the chios. John, how are you, hey, John? 35 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,559 Speaker 1: How you doing? I'm tired, I haven't slept in seventy 36 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: two hours, but otherwise I'm good. 37 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: I intense negotiations over this case. 38 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: I can tell you that the Trump administration was involved. 39 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: The President knew about it. He appointed his chief hostage 40 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: negotiator to be involved. And then we had a congressman 41 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: named Tom Barrett, who on his own dime went down 42 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: there and basically shadowed them for thirty six hours and 43 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: helped get them out. But let me be clear. The 44 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: idea that the prosecutors were involved in this case. Is nonsense. 45 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: There is no law in can Kun. There's none. It's 46 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 1: whatever whoever's there wants it to be and whoever has 47 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: the most money. These people should never have been charged. 48 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: They were arrested over a timeshare dispute, and I'm asking 49 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: the FBI and Michigan law enforcement to look into this case. 50 00:02:55,520 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: They were thrown into cells without beds, with murderers, rapists, kidnappers, 51 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: no toilet you know, there was a sink and there 52 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: was used toilet paper in it, no toiletries, and forced 53 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 1: to sleep on a floor with a shower curtain because 54 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: they had a dispute with their timeshare. And frankly, the 55 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: State Department should raise the travel advisory in Cancun that 56 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: do not travel and anybody that buys a timeshare from 57 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: anybody in some foreign countries out of their minds. I've 58 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: heard from people who have been in Kancun and had 59 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: a dispute at a hotel and found themselves in the 60 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: police station and had to pay ten thousand dollars. There 61 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: is no law there, and I don't my clients don't understand. 62 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: I don't understand how a company, how companies can do 63 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: this to people, and we're gonna have a lot more 64 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: to say about it. You know. The the quote negotiations 65 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: were done while they were shackled with police around them, 66 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: with gut I had to personally pay fifty eight thousand 67 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: dollars to a quote Mexican charity to get them out, 68 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: And the Palace company is now circulating a statement that 69 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: says though they had to pay one hundred thousand dollars 70 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: in damages, that's just a lie. I personally paid the 71 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: money because otherwise they weren't going to get out, and 72 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: I donated it to a charity run by Palace, so 73 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: God knows where that's going to go. But no, this 74 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: the most important thing is their home. And I can't 75 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: say enough good things about Congressman Tom Barrett, who went 76 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: down there at great personal risk, it's not safe, didn't 77 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: have a security detail, and basically lived in the jail 78 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: for thirty six hours, and to the President Trump's hostage 79 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: negotiator and everybody else in government who helped them, because 80 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: otherwise they wouldn't have gotten out. And it just it's 81 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: terrifying that this can happen to somebody because you have 82 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: a dispute with a foreign company and no American, No America, 83 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: and should be subject to this because you have an 84 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,119 Speaker 1: argument with a hotel or a timeshare company or anybody else. 85 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: They didn't do anything wrong and American Express found for 86 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: him and they posted a Facebook that's it. So I 87 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: am very troubled by this, and I am confident that 88 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: this is going to be investigated by the authorities, which 89 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: being which is why I'm being careful what I. 90 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 2: Say that is as actually terrifying. I've been to Kankun. 91 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 2: We stated at a hotel. 92 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you what They're not listening to 93 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: your podcast in Cancun. 94 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 2: I don't want them coming to get me here. 95 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 96 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 2: Well, I had a good time that week. I don't 97 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: have any complaints at all. They didn't hold me up. 98 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: Well, good for you. You probably don't look like a 99 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: good target. But in all seriousness, no, I just. 100 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: Want them to know that. 101 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: In all seriousness, I mean, we're really happy they're home, 102 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: but I mean what they've been through is just horrific. 103 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: But what I will say is that you know, what 104 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 1: we learn when I'm a veteran, and what you learn 105 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: on the first day of boot camp or officer candidate 106 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: school is we don't leave anybody behind. And you know, 107 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: I don't always agree with the president, and but I 108 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: got to tell you, they didn't leave this man behind 109 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: and woman behind. And Paul Kayo's a navy veteran, so 110 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: I'm just really grateful they got about So. 111 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, I I mean, there's a lot of lawless areas 112 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 2: in Mexico, and. 113 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: You think. 114 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 2: This, this, this proves it. It's always in the back 115 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: of my mind because I know plenty of people who say, no, 116 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 2: it's fine to go to Mexico. We go every year, 117 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: and it's like, I maybe it's because of this job 118 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 2: I have. I've read too much stuff like this, and 119 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 2: I'm nervous whenever I've gone there. 120 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: Especially in the thought one sixth of the country is 121 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: not under the control of the government. Don't get me wrong, 122 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: there's there's people in Mexico, and there's people in government 123 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: of Mexico that want to do the right thing. But 124 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: I can tell you most of the morning Cancun and 125 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: this prosecution was complete and utterly bogus. They just held 126 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: them because they could, and they wanted to punish them 127 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: for essentially doing what they had a right to do. 128 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: Who anybody that's ever had a credit card gets a 129 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: bogus charge, you challenge it, American Express upheld it, and 130 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: for that you get thrown in a Mexican prison. That's 131 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: insane and frankly, Congress, and you know, the people involved 132 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: in this deserve to be investigated and if they violated crimes, 133 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: they deserve to be prosecuted. 134 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: Can they be prosecuted? 135 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: I mean sure, there's a variety of statutes that others 136 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: can people in foreign countries can be prosecuted for in 137 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: the United States. This company has offices in the United States, 138 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: so there just needs to be And I'm not saying 139 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: crimes are committed or not. I know what I think, 140 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: but I'm not going to say that so I want 141 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: but it's important given what happened to these people and 142 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: the horrific treatment they received and the danger they were 143 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: in their lives, absolutely lives were in danger. This needs 144 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: to be investigated and if if criminality is discovered, the 145 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: people involved that live here and in Mexico, if they 146 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: violated US law, ought to be extradited and punished to 147 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: the full extent of the law. If crimes were violated, Yeah. 148 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 2: I mean, and they're going to be traumatized I'm sure 149 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 2: for quite a while. 150 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: And if I were a betting if I were a 151 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: betting man, I think you know how that would go. 152 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well, John, good work for your part there. 153 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 2: They were very lucky to have you representing them. And 154 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 2: it's a good thing for Congressman Barrett, what's his full name. 155 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: Tom barrettn Army combat, Army, combat veteran. And look, I 156 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: don't know what his politics are, but I was today. 157 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: He showed the best our country has getting him out. 158 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: Courageous and no one else helped the White except the 159 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: White House, and I'm just so grateful for him. 160 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: Yes, Special Envoy Adam Bowler, he was. 161 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: The Adam and his staff were amazing and cared deeply 162 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: about Americans in prison. I don't want to make this political. 163 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: I'm not political, but I'm telling you these people would 164 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: not have gotten out but for Adam Bowler and Tom Barrett. 165 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 2: They were They did a job. If they did the job, 166 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 2: they got to be praised. That's all that matters. 167 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 168 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 2: Amen, All right, John Manley, good good talking with you. 169 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: By the way. Just one other thing, because it was 170 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 2: rare that we you heard about the La County case 171 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 2: about the sexual do you have any connection to that case. 172 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: I have cases in that case that were not settled, 173 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,599 Speaker 1: so I'll leave it at that. I don't want to 174 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: comment on it otherwise. So we have a trial in June. 175 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: I see, all right, we'll talk with you then. Hey, 176 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 2: all right, thanks a lot. John Manley, and he's the 177 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: attorney that represented paul A Kio and his wife Christy, 178 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 2: who spent a month in a Mexican prison. And it 179 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 2: was John Manley's strong opinion that you're out of your 180 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 2: mind if you go to Cancun and definitely do not 181 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 2: get involved in a w you're not listening, do not. 182 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 3: Get I am listening. 183 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 6: I'm going to Mexico next year, and I forgot exactly where, 184 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 6: so I was. 185 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 3: Just texting my husband to ask him. So that's why 186 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 3: I was my pot. I forgot where we're going. It's 187 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 3: not we're not going to cancuon. 188 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 2: Oh, so you're doing Indonesia and Mexico. Huh after coming 189 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 2: home from Dubai excellent and missing out on Israel. Sure? 190 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: Wow? 191 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, you really hard to Kiss of Death. Okay, all right, 192 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: more coming up. 193 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 194 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 7: six forty. 195 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: John Cobelt's show. We've got two rounds on the Moistline 196 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: coming up after three o'clock. Two rounds of the Moistline 197 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: at three twenty and three fifty or so, and then 198 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 2: we have a hack and a dumpster. Yes we do. 199 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 2: She has been on the fringe of the news for 200 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: a while here in La County, but she took center stage. 201 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 2: And I don't want to give any more clues. You 202 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 2: have to wait to three thirty to find out. But 203 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 2: she definitely deserves a toss, a hard toss into the dumpster. 204 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 2: And I have a feeling there are probably many county 205 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 2: officials who would like to toss her into the dumpster 206 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 2: as well. We'll get to that coming up after three thirty. Now, 207 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 2: we just went through the case with John Manley of 208 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 2: the Michigan couple who apparently have the ties here to 209 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 2: southern California. That's why John Manley got involved this Christy 210 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 2: and Paul Akil. They had a timeshare in Mexico and 211 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 2: they ought one hundred and seventeen thousand dollars. They wouldn't 212 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 2: pay their bill anymore because they say the timeshare the 213 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 2: palace company kept canceling their reservations and they got sick 214 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: of it and they went to American Express. American Express 215 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 2: backed them up. They went online and explained what happened. 216 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 2: And you know, I'm I'd be really leary of the 217 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 2: time share of Mexico myself, but people do what they do. 218 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 2: And John just came on and said, you know, in Cancun, 219 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 2: Quintana Rue is the state where Cancun is located, and 220 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 2: I've been there with my family and it's a beautiful area, 221 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 2: but there are no laws, there's nobody to appeal to. 222 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 2: So I guess somebody at the hotel called somebody in 223 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 2: the Mexican with the Mexican police or somebody in the 224 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 2: prison system. And next thing you know is Paula Kio, 225 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 2: who's fifty eight and his wife, Christy is sixty. They 226 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 2: ended up, as you heard John say, on the floor 227 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 2: of a Mexican prison, maximum security, with murders and rapists, 228 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: hardly any food, no working toilet, and it was horrific. 229 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I got chills just listening to his story. 230 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 2: And I remember when we were in uh Cantcoon area 231 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: and this is going back about ten years, and there's 232 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 2: some there's some great things to see there. There's like 233 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 2: these beautiful pyramids. I remember there was a zoo amusement 234 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: park that we went to, but as you approach the 235 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 2: resort had we stayed at one of those all inclusive 236 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 2: resorts that's on the beach, and we had to take 237 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 2: these long winding roads that went up and back and 238 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 2: ump and back, and the driver had us in a van. 239 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 2: I guess they picked us up from the airport, and 240 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 2: he went really slowly down the roads because there were 241 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: a lot of traffic bumps, and it took a little 242 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 2: bit to get there. We didn't go in a straight line. 243 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 2: We'd go towards the ocean. We'd double back towards the ocean, 244 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 2: double back. Finally we get to the entrance, and the 245 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 2: entrance had looked like a twenty foot iron gate, and 246 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 2: they had armed security and you had to give your 247 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 2: name to the security guard and they would checked they 248 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: would check their their clipboard and then slowly opened the 249 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 2: gate and would only be one car wide, one car 250 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 2: at a time. And I finally asked somebody what's this about, 251 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 2: and they said, it's the drug car teuse. 252 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 6: I had the same experience when I took my kids 253 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 6: outside of Cancun a few years ago exactly. 254 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where we went. What's the town next to Kankun, Well, 255 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 2: there is, that's where we stayed at the resort. There's 256 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 2: there's another No, Talloom is the archaeology. 257 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 6: Harris was apply delk krmen. Oh yeah, but there's pliod o' carmen. 258 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 6: But I was close to something moo Harris. 259 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 3: But it's literally right side right outside of can Kun. 260 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, the whole region there kan Kuhn and there's 261 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: a series of other towns and that's where the resorts are. 262 00:14:54,160 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 2: And Talloom is the temple the pyramids that the the 263 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: natives built years ago. And the thing is you had 264 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 2: to spend your whole time at the resort, and that's 265 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 2: why they made it as beautiful and entertaining as possible. 266 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: You don't want to go wandering by yourself. 267 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 3: I mean people do believe it. 268 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 5: No. 269 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: I remember we took a van from the hotel to 270 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 2: the Tulum and then they also had a ride for 271 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 2: us to go to the Zoo amusement park. And that 272 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 2: was it, because they told you don't go wandering out 273 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 2: by yourself, don't go looking for something to eat. We 274 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 2: got plenty to eat here. We got plenty to do 275 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 2: and if you want to go see the sites that 276 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 2: will drive and it was none of those places like 277 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 2: going to Russia. It just didn't feel comfortable. And I 278 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 2: can't imagine how many times these I remember there was 279 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 2: a few years ago where bad guys on jet ski 280 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 2: jet ski went up onto the beach. 281 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 6: Right, so then you're not really you're not protected. No, 282 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 6: there's no gate there, and. 283 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 2: They had all these all these like military police that 284 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 2: were guarding the beaches from the drug cartel guys on 285 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 2: the jet skis. It's like, none of this is fun. 286 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 6: Which is it's sad because it is. It is very beautiful. 287 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 6: But I yeah, there's a lot of beautiful places. Yes, yes, there's. 288 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of sandy beaches and turquoise 289 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 2: waters and I don't have to share the beach with 290 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 2: drug cartel. 291 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 6: Well I'm going to okay, so here, I'm going to 292 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 6: a place called Punta Mita in. 293 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 3: A year, uh Pa Mita. 294 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 2: But you know what, you look up the State Department's 295 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: travel recommendation. 296 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 3: I know here's the thing. 297 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 6: I will But I know so many people to go 298 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 6: there every single year, every year and have had zero 299 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 6: problem and people love it so I'm I'm gonna just 300 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 6: go with that. 301 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you have if it's your going, yeah, you 302 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 2: have your It's a year. 303 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 3: It's a year. 304 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 2: The other day because my wife and I I've been 305 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 2: kicking around ideas to go, and she's always wanted to 306 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 2: go Gorilla trekking in Africa, Yeah, which which Mark Thompson 307 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,479 Speaker 2: has gone on. Uh, And so we're we're looking at 308 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 2: doing it and there's like three countries you could do 309 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 2: it in. And you could do it in Rwanda or 310 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 2: Uganda or Congo No one. The Congo no no, because 311 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 2: the State Department rates them as a four. That's the 312 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 2: most dangerous rating a country gets. Wow, it's like a 313 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 2: red bar. So it's like a four. Stay out of here. 314 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 2: You could end up being taken hostage. 315 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 3: And all right, well you guys have already done a Safari. 316 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 2: So Uganda was a three and Rwanda was a two, 317 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 2: which was like, it's okay, but just be careful. I 318 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 2: don't know how you be careful when you're on the case. Right, 319 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 2: somebody's gonna snatch you. What are you supposed to do 320 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 2: to block them? So if we go, it would be Rwanda, 321 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 2: it's definitely not Congo. Well, nice, and that's that's the 322 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 2: State Department. In fact, you definitely ought to go to 323 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 2: the State Department site. 324 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 6: No, I just want to I just want to live 325 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 6: in ignorant bliss. 326 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 2: When we come back, more on Mexico, because we've talked 327 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 2: about this for so many years. There's a huge amount 328 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 2: of sewage that the Mexican government pumps into America flowing 329 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 2: into San Diego. You know how many billion, how many 330 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 2: billion of gallons of ross sewage have flowed into San 331 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 2: Diego in the last seven years. You're not gonna believe 332 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 2: this number. And we have been fighting with Mexico for 333 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 2: seven years to stop sending us ross sewage, and they 334 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 2: wouldn't stop. And now the Trump people are in charge. 335 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 2: And if you wonder why there's tariffs on Mexico, this 336 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 2: is one of the reasons. In addition to all the 337 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 2: illegal immigration and the fentanyl and the drug cartel and 338 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: this mind boggling amount of ross sewage. And I'll tell 339 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 2: you how much when we come back. 340 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI A 341 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 7: six forty. 342 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 2: We have so much good stuff coming up in the 343 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 2: next hour and a half. Next segment, there's another Another 344 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 2: excerpt from this new book on the Kamala Harris Trump election, 345 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 2: and it's called Fight Inside the Wildest Battle, Battle for 346 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 2: the White House, and it terms. According to this Kamala 347 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 2: Harris was totally completely shocked that she lost. Her staff 348 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 2: had insisted to her that they were going to be 349 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 2: big winners, and it was a huge, a huge disappointment. 350 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 2: Can you imagine what it's like when you're absolutely sure 351 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 2: you're gonna win and everybody tells you you're gonna win, 352 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: and you're sitting there watching the election night results as 353 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: fifty states come in and I think Trump, I mean, 354 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 2: I think she only won about twenty states, maybe nineteen. 355 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 2: How could you lose sixty percent of the states. And 356 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 2: she and her staff were convinced they'd win, all the 357 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 2: money they spend on polling, all that political expertise. I mean, 358 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 2: if you're going to have all that money and expertise, 359 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 2: at least know what's going on. We'll get to that 360 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 2: in the next segment. Now, among the many crimes that 361 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 2: Mexico commits against the American people here, not only the 362 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 2: rampant immigration, illegal immigration, but a tremendous amount of weapons 363 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 2: come over the border, tremendous amount of drugs, heroin, cocaine, 364 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 2: and in recent years fentanyl and the fentinyl costs has 365 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 2: been costing one hundred thousand lives a year and more. 366 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 2: And China sends Mexico the ingredients and then they're put 367 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 2: together in these cheap Mexican labs and then the cartels 368 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 2: distribute the drugs over the border. Now that has dropped dramatically. 369 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 2: We had Todd Bensman on yesterday from the Center for 370 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 2: Immigration Studies, and it looks like in just three months, 371 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 2: sentinel smuggling is down fifty percent. One of the other 372 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 2: things that Mexican sends US is a tremendous amount of sewage. 373 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 2: And periodically this story has made the news and again 374 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 2: for a day or two and then disappears. The city 375 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 2: of Tijuana has a completely failed sewage system, huge population 376 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 2: that's been growing, and they have been pumping enormous amounts 377 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 2: of ross sewage and garbage and storm water into the 378 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 2: city of San Diego and into the waters in the ocean. 379 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 2: How many how many gallons of ross sewage do you 380 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 2: think they pumped from Tijuana to San Diego since twenty eighteen. 381 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 3: You're asking me, I get this wrong every time. 382 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 2: Well, give me another wrong answer. 383 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 3: How are you calculating and thinking gallons? 384 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 2: Yes? Gallons here? 385 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 3: Yes, okay, fifty thousand gallons. 386 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 2: Fifty one hundred billion? 387 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 3: Oh my, see what I mean. Don't ask me these 388 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 3: hard questions anymore. 389 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 2: How did you get the fifty thousand? And you were 390 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 2: talking to yourself there like you had some calculation. Here 391 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 2: the wheels, the wheels go around. They rusted shut. A 392 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 2: hundred billion gallons of raw sewage and garbage and storm 393 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 2: water have flowed into San Diego in seven years from Tijuana. 394 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 2: Can you imagine this? One hundred and nobody ever did 395 00:22:55,600 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 2: anything about it. San Diego area beaches are frequently closed 396 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 2: because of all the toxins. There is one beach that 397 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 2: was shut down for more than a thousand days straight. 398 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 2: That would be about three years. Navy seals do their 399 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 2: training in the waters. They get sick. Even the Navy 400 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 2: seals can't fight this off. So Trump's new EPA administrator, 401 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 2: Lee Zelden, he noticed that there was a construction incident 402 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 2: in Mexico and sent untreated sewage into the Tijuana River. 403 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 2: And now he is publicly pressuring Mexico to do something 404 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 2: and to pay for it. It turns out we gave 405 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 2: them a lot of money to fix the situation, and 406 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: they took the money and didn't fix it. What do 407 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 2: you know, Mexico must fully honor its commitment to control 408 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 2: their growing pollution and sewage. The time and excuse delays 409 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 2: are exceptions is over. Zeldon said. They Trump is using 410 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 2: tariffs to force countries to do not only what he 411 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 2: wants them to do, but that what they should be 412 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 2: doing if they were decent allies and neighbors. I'm so 413 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 2: second turn around there saying well, this is our allies. 414 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 2: Our allies are screwing us. They're screwing us. They're taking 415 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 2: our money, and they're not funding their own military to 416 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 2: defend themselves. We have to spend our money to defend themselves. 417 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: They manipulate their currencies, they have they have it real 418 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 2: high tariffs. We've been paying far higher tariffs for years 419 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 2: than they've been paying on our goods. I mean a 420 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 2: lot of the stuff. He says. It is true. I 421 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 2: don't know if all his this big plan is going 422 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 2: to work or not, but the charges he makes against 423 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 2: these countries are absolutely true. The State Department is cutting 424 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 2: off deliveries of Colorado River water to Tijuana. It usually 425 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 2: runs through San Diego system, and they say it's unrelated 426 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 2: to the sewage problem, that it has has to do 427 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 2: with another issue. But the Trump administration cannot believe what 428 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 2: they've gotten away with. For years, US has been giving 429 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 2: Mexico money. For example, Trump gave three hundred million dollars 430 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 2: to Mexico to upgrade an international water treatment plant on 431 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 2: the US side of the border. That was part of 432 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 2: a big trade agreement. But Mexico hasn't done its part 433 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 2: for the sewage on their side of the border, and 434 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 2: they claim they don't have the money. Are they not 435 00:25:54,200 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 2: getting a cut of the cartel proceeds anymore? The one 436 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 2: US official says, they understand it's not okay to send 437 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 2: sewage in the river. It's just a matter of having 438 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 2: the resources to repair and replace things. See when they 439 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 2: have when the waterline breaks, there isn't really impact to 440 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 2: any Mexicans. Well, the impact is in the US. We're 441 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 2: a much bigger and richer country. So they say, why 442 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 2: don't you guys come pay for it? So they dump 443 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 2: one hundred billion gallons of sewage on our side of 444 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 2: the border, foul our ocean. Foul our rivers and then 445 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 2: they say, well, you're rich, fix it. A lot of 446 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 2: people have that attitude. Countries have this attitude. You were rich, 447 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: How about you you spend your money as a priority 448 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 2: and fix your own freaking sewage plant. I mean, one 449 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 2: hundred billion gallons, you should be bombing them. Congress has 450 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 2: provided another three hundred and fifty million for the for 451 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 2: the international treatment plant. In fact, we just gave a 452 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty million in December. And there's a 453 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 2: spoke espression for the EPA named Molly Vessilu. She says 454 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 2: Mexico needs to build and properly operate all the infrastructure 455 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 2: necessary to treat all the sewage generated by Tijuana. Mexico 456 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 2: should pay for their own wastewater collection. Well they won't, 457 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 2: and they keep dumping it here. So maybe you know, 458 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 2: that's another reason for a tariff or some kind of retaliation. 459 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: See. 460 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 2: I think he's right. He should play hardball with all 461 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 2: these countries, because what do we get out of we 462 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 2: got one hundred billion gallons of sewage? Well, what's the 463 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 2: point of playing mister nice guy, mister negotiator. It's like, okay, well, 464 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 2: let's just talk let's find a way, let's compromise that. No, 465 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 2: they're playing us for suckers and fools. Apparently Mexico is 466 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 2: not able to collect the sewage properly to treat that's 467 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 2: been the issue. How amazing when we come back Kamala Harris. 468 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 2: There is a story leaking out every few hours because 469 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 2: there's two books that are being released and excerpts are 470 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 2: are getting play in the media. This hour's excerpt is 471 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 2: how shocked Kamala and Tim Walls was when they lost 472 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 2: because their staff had told them that they were gonna 473 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 2: win easily. Well, we'll tell you it's actually pretty funny. 474 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 2: People really live in delusional bubbles. It's like I want 475 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 2: to do. Some say the other day that he lives 476 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 2: in a big blue bubble. He just spent the campaign 477 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 2: talking to big blue crowds, taking the big blue book. 478 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 3: But remember Biden was pushed out. 479 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 6: Everybody thought that Kamala Harris was going to be the 480 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 6: savior for the Democratic Party, and so she really thought. 481 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 3: For sure, yeah, that she was going to win. 482 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 2: Yeah they didn't. They didn't. They should have known. She 483 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 2: didn't have a brain though, That's what was missing. And 484 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 2: the thing is her own staff is like taking potshots 485 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 2: at her. We'll tell you more when we come back. 486 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 7: You're listening to John cobelts on demand from KFI Am sixty. 487 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 2: If you could follow us on social media, John Cobelt Radio. 488 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 2: That's right, John Cobert Radio, less than six hundred followers 489 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 2: away from twenty five thousand after three o'clock in Deborah's 490 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 2: News in Sacramento, the evil, corrupt, criminal democratic legislator legislature 491 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 2: is trying to starve Prop thirty six to death. They 492 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 2: will not fund what needs to be funded. Remember. Prop 493 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 2: thirty six is supposed to make a stealing illegal again. 494 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 2: I don't know how else to put it, make theft 495 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 2: a crime again, make drug use crime again, and treat 496 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 2: the drug addicts rather put him in jail, rather than 497 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 2: put them in jail. We're gonna talk to the founder 498 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 2: and president of the Criminal Justice Legal Foundation, Michael Rushford. 499 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 2: He's written a piece for californiaglobe dot com on how 500 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 2: California's legislator, Governor Newsom is not funding what needs to 501 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 2: be funded to make Prop thirty six work. They will 502 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 2: defy you at every turn. They have no respect for 503 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 2: what you want done in this state and we'll get 504 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 2: into that two rats of the moistline, and also a 505 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:39,479 Speaker 2: hack and a dumpster, and you'll enjoy this one, all right. 506 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 2: Here's the latest expert excerpt from this book on the 507 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 2: Trump Kamala election called Fight Inside the Wildest Battle for 508 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 2: the White House, and it was written by Jonathan Allen 509 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 2: and Amy Parnes. And it turns out that Kamala Harris 510 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 2: and her goofy sidekick Tim Walls were completely convinced that 511 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 2: they were going to win, that her staff had snowed 512 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 2: her and Walls into believing that they would have a 513 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 2: very enjoyable night, it would be an easy win. She 514 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 2: was completely shocked, said Amy parn Is, one of the writers. 515 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 2: She was completely shocked. Tim Walls was shocked. Walls was 516 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 2: sitting in his hotel room, stunned. He has no words, 517 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 2: and people are kind of explaining to him, kind of 518 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 2: explaining to him, there's two words. You lost. Let's to 519 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 2: explain same thing with her, Kamala, and she's like, are 520 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 2: you sure? Have we done a recount? She lost thirty 521 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 2: one states, she lost, She lost sixty two percent of 522 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 2: the states in the Union, which is important because and 523 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 2: a lot of people don't understand this. The popular vote 524 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 2: totals don't matter. It's only an electoral college. And you 525 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 2: could whine and bitch all you want about that, but 526 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 2: it's in the constitution and good luck changing it. Those 527 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 2: are the rules of the game. And whenever anybody loses 528 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 2: because of the electoral college, like, yeah, this is not fair, 529 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 2: this is wrong. It's like the rolls tailor your campaign 530 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 2: to the electoral college. And the thing is they did. 531 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 2: They spent most of their time in the seven swing states, 532 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 2: so they know the rules. And she lost sixty two 533 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 2: percent of the states. She lost fifty eight percent of 534 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 2: the electoral votes. This wasn't close. And she's saying, have 535 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 2: we done a recount? Well, that night Election night, they 536 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 2: don't do. He counts of the entire nation that night. 537 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 2: According to Parnas, they thought they were going to win. 538 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 2: And when they come back down and say, oh, no, 539 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 2: we didn't really have a chance. No, that's not what 540 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 2: they were thinking. They thought they were gonna win. And 541 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 2: the Harris campaign staffers felt they were gas lit by leadership. 542 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 2: They were told things were looking good. Harris bought the 543 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 2: hype that she was doing better than she was. Kamala Harris, 544 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 2: Oh this is so key was looking at her crowd 545 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 2: size and they felt like the vibe was strong, and 546 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 2: people were saying, Oh, we have more boots on the ground, 547 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 2: we're doing better in fundraising. And she bought all that. 548 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 2: She bought the hype. So did a lot of people 549 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 2: in the campaign. The vibe Oprah vibes don't vote Yeah Oprah? 550 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 2: You know a TV star for twenty years ago, Oprah? 551 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: Do you know? 552 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 2: Most people never watched the Oprah Show. It's you know, 553 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 2: you tell people things, It's like, yeah, Oprah, you know, 554 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 2: maybe I don't know if she had seven ten million 555 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 2: people watching, which means three hundred and twenty million didn't watch. 556 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 2: There's no star who's nearly as popular, not a tiny 557 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 2: fraction as popular as you think they are. Most people 558 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 2: never watched the Oprah show. I never saw a whole 559 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 2: Oprah show. 560 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 3: Oh, I used to watch Oprah. I wanted to be Oprah. 561 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:34,479 Speaker 2: You wanted to be I did? 562 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 7: I did? 563 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 2: Well, you missed it in a lot of work, I really did. 564 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 7: I know. 565 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 2: I didn't know that. 566 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was my thing. 567 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 6: You don't eat that much, oh, John, I wanted to 568 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 6: be a talk show. 569 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 3: I wanted to do that type of kind of it. 570 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 2: Oh that kind of yeah, I say. And then she 571 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 2: said she could have won if only the election was 572 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 2: later in the calendar. And actually one of her friend says, 573 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 2: that's effing bonkers. If election day was October first, we 574 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,720 Speaker 2: might have pulled it off. The shorter was better, not longer, 575 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 2: because according to one Harris advisor, Kamala's problem was substance, 576 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 2: not a lack of campaign time. I don't think we 577 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 2: needed more time. We needed more substance. And she did 578 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,879 Speaker 2: not have more substance. That's one of her own advisors. 579 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 2: She did not have more substance. But half of California, 580 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 2: more than half of California, is ready to elect her 581 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 2: as governor. The advisors are telling you that there's nobody 582 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 2: home upstairs, because there's nobody home upstairs, but she's the 583 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:47,800 Speaker 2: leading gubernatorial candidate when we come back. Michael Rushford, the 584 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 2: founder and president of the Criminal Justice Legal Foundation. Prop 585 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 2: thirty six supposed to make theft and drug addiction crimes 586 00:35:55,400 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 2: again and send those drug criminals to to treatment rather 587 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:07,240 Speaker 2: than prison, except they're not funding the treatment centers. Gavin 588 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 2: Newsom and the Democratic Legislature are trying to undermine Prop 589 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 2: thirty six so they could say, Sue it doesn't work. 590 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 2: We'll get to that with Michael Risford coming out next 591 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 2: Deborah Mark live in the KFI twenty four our newsroom. Hey, 592 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 2: you've been listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast. You 593 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 2: can always hear the show live on KFI Am six 594 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 2: forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 595 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 2: and of course, anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app