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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Well, the Trump administration

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Speaker 1: ran on exposing fraud and a few other things, but

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Speaker 1: If you remember, and looking back, you probably also remember

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk joining the rallies. He talked about volunteering his time,

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Speaker 1: he was going to expose waste, fraud, and abuse. And

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Speaker 1: then when President Trump took office, we had DOGE, and

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Speaker 1: I believe that DOGE was essential. They started cutting waste

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Speaker 1: and then the pushback was really hard, you know, like

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Speaker 1: there was all these people like, oh my gosh, you

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Speaker 1: can't cut all of that money. But it was essential

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Speaker 1: to opening the minds of the people that there actually

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Speaker 1: is fraud, waste, and abuse, and when you were in

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Speaker 1: positions of power, there is the opportunity to abuse the system.

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Speaker 1: Why was that pushback so hard at the time when

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk was out there, Well, first of all, there's

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Speaker 1: coordinated efforts. When you have someone as powerful and as

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Speaker 1: they start to try to chip away at his integrity.

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Speaker 1: So we saw that. But also I think for the

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Speaker 1: American people, it's like very offensive, you know, it's like,

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Speaker 1: really unbelievable to think all of your money has been

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Speaker 1: to all these fraudulent organizations. And at first it was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't want my money to be going to foreign

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Speaker 1: governments and foreign countries. But then we start to see

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Speaker 1: what's happening just on the local level. So you see

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Speaker 1: Minnesota and you go, why is this happening? But if

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Speaker 1: you take a step back, it really actually makes sense.

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Speaker 1: Because we've said this for years. How are these yahoo's

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Speaker 1: getting elected? Like, how is it possible that these democrats

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Speaker 1: few that have the it factor, but generally they're awful people.

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Speaker 1: They're really bad at their jobs or they haven't had

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Speaker 1: look at Kamala Harris. She was a total disaster and

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Speaker 1: I mean, Kamala Harris was an attorney, but she's never

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Speaker 1: even saying I haven't been to Europe either. Well, perfect

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Speaker 1: example that she had no foreign policy experience. Look at

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Speaker 1: Obama himself. He was a first term senator, He was

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Speaker 1: an attorney, he was a lecturer. Does an attorney and

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Speaker 1: a lecturer? I mean really, there are quite a few

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Speaker 1: jokes about attorneys, But is an attorney and lecturer the

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Speaker 1: looked at him as like he was there was something

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Speaker 1: special about him. Again, he had that it factor, the

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Speaker 1: strange appeal, even with no message and no experience. And

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Speaker 1: you have to look at that because Trump has that

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Speaker 1: it factor. But he's run companies all over the globe,

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Speaker 1: all across the world. He has worked, he's made deals

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Speaker 1: in the world. How is it happening. You have to

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Speaker 1: ask yourself. There's money and abuse of power at all levels.

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Speaker 1: There's manipulative dialogue. These people say certain things and it

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Speaker 1: The whole concept of you scratch our back, we'll scratch yours.

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Speaker 1: That's actually nearly the exact conversation that was recorded with

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Speaker 1: Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison when he was running between

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Speaker 1: him and one of these fraudsters, like, hey, man, we

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Speaker 1: understand you need money to get elected, but you gotta

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Speaker 1: take care of us too. And turns out that fraudster

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Speaker 1: was later indicted. But what about the votes, because we've

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Speaker 1: been suspicious for a long time. Definitely since twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: you have to understand in this state is that we

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Speaker 1: general that is as corrupt as they come. Dana Nessel

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Speaker 1: So my friend Tony FORLINI some people call him Anthony,

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Speaker 1: but those of us who know, I'm calm Tony. He's

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Speaker 1: But he's never stopped, and he recently found something that

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Speaker 1: the program. Tony, thanks for coming on. Tell us what

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Speaker 2: Well, Twitter, thanks for having me on. I really appreciate

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Speaker 2: it because this is an important message. This is something

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Speaker 2: that when we came upon this and stumbled across it

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Speaker 2: through cross checking databases, we found something that was incredibly alarming.

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Speaker 2: The first thing is is, you know, I've won national

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Speaker 2: awards for operational efficiency, so I'm always looking at how

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Speaker 2: various reasons, right, but the one reason that really caught

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Speaker 2: I thought that was interesting. Take I says, give me

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Speaker 2: our software system. Back in September, I says, give me

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Speaker 2: so easy for non citizens to be brought into this

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Speaker 2: me these names. I want you And it just so

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Speaker 2: Give me those names and doing me a favor and

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Speaker 2: go over to the election department. I want you to

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Speaker 2: pull every one of these names and see if they

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Speaker 2: are also on the QBF.

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Speaker 1: Well, what's the QBF for people who don't.

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Speaker 2: Know, qualified voter file? So that's the statewide system that

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Speaker 2: the Secretary of State maintains, the qualified voter files. And

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Speaker 2: so these are people that are registered to vote.

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Speaker 1: Well, turns out non citizens registered to vote.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's supposed to be citizens registered vote. There should

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Speaker 2: out out of two hundred and thirty nine tutor fourteen

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Speaker 1: a Tutor Dixon podcast for people who don't remember. Back

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Speaker 1: in twenty four suddenly we find out just before the

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Speaker 1: because the Secretary of State came out and she kind

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Speaker 1: You're How is that possible that the system doesn't kick

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Speaker 2: So it shouldn't be self reporting. It should be we

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Speaker 1: And someone could have either gone to jail or been

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Speaker 2: We are judged by Americans, not by foreigners. Now listen,

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Speaker 2: I'm the son of a foreigner. My dad came over

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Speaker 1: So how far do you think this goes? Has just first,

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Speaker 1: So that is fantastic news. I think that's what people

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Speaker 2: Well, let me say this, Tutor. As the county clerk,

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Speaker 2: the state of Michigan to shut off the modems. It's

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Speaker 1: Well, and that's that's what I think people don't understand.

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Speaker 2: Everything we can to bring the confidence back to elections,

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Speaker 2: We did some of it, you know, small I'll give

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Speaker 2: This is low lying people over the age of one hundred.

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Speaker 2: Let's just look at that. Three hundred of them are

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Speaker 2: Right, And keep in mind, I didn't run the twenty

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Speaker 1: So explain that. Explain that to people.

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Speaker 2: So I ran as the county clerk in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: And of course everyone was complaining about the election was

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Speaker 2: it gave me a unique perspective because I had nothing

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Speaker 2: to find problems with what had happened before fraud. I

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Speaker 2: didn't find the fraud in McComb County. What I did

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Speaker 2: find was protocols that weren't properly followed, things that would

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Speaker 2: immediately and moving forward started making it better and better.

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Speaker 2: So it's important to note that it was it was

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Speaker 2: I was in a good position to look at Macomb

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Speaker 2: County and what happened in McComb County. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: of things, you know, we're still finding out. We're still

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Speaker 2: trying to uncover this jury service and how that all

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Speaker 2: came together was just one of those things that we

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Speaker 2: uncovered and continue to as as we move forward, we

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Speaker 2: have to keep our eyes open. We have to always

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Speaker 2: keep our eyes open as to what is going on

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Speaker 2: out there. What are the bad guys looking to do?

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Speaker 2: How can we prevent it? It's really, you know, it's

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Speaker 2: the bad guys. It's you know, and it's sometimes it's

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Speaker 2: because we have systems in place that are not very good.

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Speaker 2: The protocols are not very good. The application to vote

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Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on

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Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. McComb County loves President Trump.

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Speaker 2: They sure do. They sure do. Just outside my house

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Speaker 2: here on Lake Saint Clair, Man, there is a flotilla.

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Speaker 2: There must have been, I don't know, a thousand, two

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Speaker 2: thousand voats that went right by, all waving their flags.

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Speaker 2: That was back in twenty sixteen, you know, twenty sixteen

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Speaker 2: and twenty twenty. And by the way, President Trump won

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Speaker 2: McComb County in twenty sixteen, twenty twenty, in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: I see you have a picture of him behind you there.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I do. This is a great picture. I love

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Speaker 2: talking about it because this picture with President Trump happened

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Speaker 2: in the White House. I was invited because the president

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Speaker 2: from Italy had come to visit and I was invited

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Speaker 2: to come in. I had been knighted by him, by

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Speaker 2: the way, a few years before that.

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Speaker 1: Whoa, whoa. Okay, that's a whole nother story. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to tell us that someday.

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Speaker 2: Who another story. So I was invited to come in,

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Speaker 2: and it was the day my granddaughter, my daughter gave

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Speaker 2: birth to my first granddaughter, first first grandchild, and so

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Speaker 2: I was getting a lot of grief from my wife

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Speaker 2: and I told the President, I said, I'm really getting

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Speaker 2: a lot of agreef from my wife. But I had

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Speaker 2: this onesie in my pocket. I pulled out. I said,

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Speaker 2: if you could sign this for my granddaughter, it'd make

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Speaker 2: everything better. It didn't, but I said that to him.

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Speaker 2: He laughed, he thought it was funny. He signed it.

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Speaker 2: And that's a picture of him signing it right there,

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Speaker 2: and then right next to it's the actual onesie. And

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Speaker 2: so yeah, you know, when I brought it back, I

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Speaker 2: asked my daughter where you want me to put it for.

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Speaker 2: I took the picture with her and she said, oh, Dad,

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Speaker 2: just she's in the hospital, so just put it over

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Speaker 2: they'll take care of it later. Steffy, No, it's not

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Speaker 2: going to happen. I'm taking it. If she turns out

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Speaker 2: to be a great kid at eighteen, I'll give it

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Speaker 2: to her at her graduation. So for the time being,

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Speaker 2: it's a safe keeping at my house.

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Speaker 1: So she's not allowed at the Abolish Ice rallies or

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Speaker 1: anything like that. She's got to be I don't know,

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Speaker 1: good good, well. I appreciate everything you do in Macomb County.

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Speaker 1: I will just say, for those of you listening, I

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Speaker 1: live on the other side of the state. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to say we have the best beaches, but you definitely

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Speaker 1: have the best food in macomb Ah.

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Speaker 2: But your restaurants know that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, we're in a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: food dessert. I'm not gonna lie, but I go over

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Speaker 1: there and I've never I've never had a bad meal

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Speaker 1: in McComb County. You guys do food very well.

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Speaker 2: Well. That's why I look how I look and you

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Speaker 2: look how you lookad.

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Speaker 1: The Italians do food very well. I think that's part

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Speaker 1: of it.

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Speaker 2: We were just at Luciano's last night.

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Speaker 1: Oh I'm jealous. Tell them, I say hello, I'll do

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Speaker 1: that they are wonderful, all right, So tell people you

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Speaker 1: are running. This is a critical race. I want people

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Speaker 1: to understand that when you look around the country, whatever

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Speaker 1: state you were in, the races that you may not

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Speaker 1: have paid attention to in the past, which I would

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Speaker 1: say are secretary of State, Attorney general, prosecutors, local races

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Speaker 1: like that, But on the state level, AG and secretary

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Speaker 1: of State are races that I think historically Republicans have

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Speaker 1: overlooked because we've thought of them as nonpartisan. They are

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Speaker 1: not nonpartisan. You want to have somebody in there who

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Speaker 1: is going to look at it from a non biased

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Speaker 1: perspective and make sure that it is running well. I

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Speaker 1: believe that we have that person, but you're running. You're

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Speaker 1: not there yet. We have to make sure that we

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Speaker 1: have we get Tony into that position of secretary of state.

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Speaker 1: Now it's just this news came out that our lieutenant governor,

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't say, I'll say Gretchen Whitmer's lieutenant governor, who

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Speaker 1: I believe she used to get into the position that

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Speaker 1: she's in, and now she's just throwing him to the side,

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Speaker 1: like I'm going to have a guy with me, but

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Speaker 1: I don't really care about him because she would not

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Speaker 1: endorse him for governor. He's been running for governor for

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Speaker 1: all these months, many many months, against Jocelyn Benson, our

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Speaker 1: corrupt secretary of state. But Jocelyn Benson is corrupt. She's

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Speaker 1: traveled the country with Hillary Clinton. She's a bad egg. Okay,

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Speaker 1: she and Hillary tight like this. I'm sure Hillary made

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Speaker 1: some sort of you know, threat on Garland's life. Will

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Speaker 1: will suicide you. I don't know, I'm guessing, but somehow

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Speaker 1: Garland decided to step out of this race, and now

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Speaker 1: he's running for secretary of state. We do not want

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Speaker 1: a trifecta of Democrats again. I think that this race

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Speaker 1: is going to be very tight. We've got to make

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Speaker 1: sure that people are supporting Republican candidates. So tell us

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Speaker 1: your website.

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Speaker 2: So my website is real simple. My name anthonyforlini dot com,

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Speaker 2: and that's where you can get information about me. There's

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Speaker 2: a donate button, which is so critically important for your

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Speaker 2: national audience. This is a critical race. I think it

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Speaker 2: has national implications and I think this is something that

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Speaker 2: the right person getting in could really make a lot

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Speaker 2: of dramatic changes that can be used as an example

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Speaker 2: across the country.

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Speaker 1: I love how you're like, it's so simple, Anthonyforlini dot

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Speaker 1: com because like everybody knows how to spell for Leini,

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Speaker 1: it's f O r l I n I.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't everyone know that.

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Speaker 1: I know, right, we're not all Italian? Okay, right, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much. I appreciate you coming on today. Everybody

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Speaker 1: check out his site, check out what he's doing. I

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Speaker 1: think you said. The President retweeted the article about your

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Speaker 1: press release and Elon Musk, so people know that you're

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Speaker 1: working hard here.

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Speaker 2: We're working hard, but we do need the support of

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Speaker 2: all the patriots across the country. So it's not something

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Speaker 2: that I don't believe. It's just Michigan that's at stake here.

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Speaker 2: The rest of the country is.

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Speaker 1: Also absolutely well. Thank you Tony Forlani, thank you for

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Speaker 1: coming on.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Twitter.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it absolutely and thank you all for listening to

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Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. As always. You can get it

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Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts.

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Speaker 1: You can check out tutordixonpodcast dot com. Also you can

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Speaker 1: watch it on Rumble or YouTube at Tutor Dixon. But

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Speaker 1: make sure you join us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast

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Speaker 1: and have a blessed day