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Speaker 1: Everybody.

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Speaker 2: It's Monday, November tenth, twenty twenty five. Welcome to the

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Speaker 2: NFL Fantasy Football Show. We're still figuring out schedules. It's

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Speaker 2: me and your man, NAMG Markus Grant, joined by Michael F.

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Speaker 2: Florio and Lakwan Jones. Welcome to Monday. Sort of a

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Speaker 2: mixed emotion Monday around here. One of us is really excited,

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Speaker 2: one of us is sort of salty. One of us.

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Speaker 2: It's just Monday, so we can go through this show

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Speaker 2: and you can figure out which person is which. I

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Speaker 2: don't think it'll be very difficult.

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Speaker 3: One of us is more emotionally mature than the others

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Speaker 3: as well. Wait, who's that again?

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Speaker 2: Again? Listening to the show, and you can decide for

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Speaker 2: yourself as things go along. But other than that, other

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Speaker 2: than the obvious, gentlemen, I hope you all had good weekends.

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Speaker 4: Excellent weekends. I mean, Floria. I don't know about you,

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Speaker 4: but it's Victor Monday for me. I'm sorry about the

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Speaker 4: Bills game. I'm sorry about Mike McDaniels spinning the block

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Speaker 4: and going by the bloor where you guys assumably just

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Speaker 4: all gathered to watch the Bills game. But I got

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Speaker 4: to give it to Mike mcdana. That was pretty fly, bro,

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Speaker 4: That was a pretty fly. He just pulled up risk

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Speaker 3: What's up when you're three and fourteen career against a

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Speaker 3: certain quarterback and your best season ever ended with him

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Speaker 3: eliminating you. Look, he might be the next SoC in Buffalo.

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Speaker 3: Who knows, But I understand why he was as happy

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Speaker 3: as he was.

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Speaker 1: Boy, are we assuming that this is real?

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Speaker 2: So? By the way, in case you don't know what

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Speaker 2: we're talking about, there was was at an Instagram post.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure it's all over social media of Mike McDaniel

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Speaker 2: allegedly apparently driving past a Bill's fan bar in Miami

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Speaker 2: and trolling Bills fans after the Dolphins win on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I need to see video evidence of

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Speaker 2: proof that he was trolling and not just that he

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Speaker 1: I need more than this, I do know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if the picture is real. I don't

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Speaker 3: know any of that, but I do know that that

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Speaker 3: bar that is in question is the one that Bill's

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Speaker 3: fans like flocked to every time every year when they

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Speaker 3: play in Miami, Like it is a set Bill's bar

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Speaker 3: that every year is jam packed when the Bills are there.

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Speaker 3: So like that part checks out. Whether or not he

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Speaker 3: the matter is he if so, he earned it right,

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Speaker 3: Like I'm not gonna be I'm not the kind of

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: I'm more with my team and the lack of performance

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Speaker 3: they gave. But Mike McDaniel, he earned that. Like I'm

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Speaker 3: when you strike someone out, talkers, you know what. Like

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Speaker 3: that's what sports are to me. So I never get

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Speaker 3: mad when someone who wins then talks a little bit.

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Speaker 3: They backed it up. You know, they earned the run.

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Speaker 2: I guess. I mean, there's the thing. Come January, like

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Speaker 2: Bills will still be playing. Mike McDaniel be updating his

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Speaker 2: LinkedIn I'm just saying so. I mean, I yes, enjoy

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Speaker 1: Know there's a dude there with Bill's gear on.

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Speaker 4: I love it if he.

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Speaker 3: Did it, though, he will answer in the most awkward way,

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Speaker 2: That he's going to give you a little I decided

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Speaker 1: We'll find out.

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Speaker 2: A rookie rapport, of course, will do drops and waiver

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Speaker 2: wire ads for you. But first let's get started with

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Speaker 2: some news headlines, including one that broke literally moments before

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Speaker 2: we started recording this show, and that is that the

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Speaker 2: Giants have decided they need a conscious uncoupling from their

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Speaker 2: In the meantime, offensive coordinator Mike Kafka has been named

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Speaker 2: That is a question that obviously we're not gonna have

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Speaker 2: Giants front office says about it. But fantasy wise, Florio,

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Speaker 2: do you see any immediate impacts on this offense with

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Speaker 3: No, because, look, I mean, maybe maybe Mike Kofka is

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Speaker 3: a surprising move because I'm not gonna say Dable was

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Speaker 3: without Malik Neighbors, without Cam Skataboo. It's a depleted offense

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Speaker 3: So this caught me completely by surprise, and I don't

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, ultimately though, it ends up falling all

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Speaker 3: Oh he was getting rocked four times.

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Speaker 1: It's only week ten.

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Speaker 3: He didn't start playing until week four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean a lot has to do with his

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Speaker 2: camp Scataboo. Like I get it that they kind of

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Speaker 4: If yes start, please go Louder. Does it make no sense?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yesterday it ended up being Russell Wilson who took

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Speaker 2: can you start either Wandell Robinson or Darius Slayton with Russ.

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Speaker 4: Uh At least with Wandell I feel safe with because

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Speaker 4: we've seen Wandell really perform at high levels with Russ

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Speaker 2: Thing about Darius Slayton is that, like, yeah, obviously he

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 2: He's not a superstar level player, but he's a good

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Speaker 2: role player. You need those on your team. Why do

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Speaker 2: you keep trying to send him to a new home?

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't really get it.

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Speaker 3: Free Jamis, that's all Free James cross next week against

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Speaker 3: the Packers. I'm sitting every Giant like I told.

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Speaker 1: Him to do that.

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Speaker 4: That's actually a conversation too. I mean, like, you fire

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Speaker 4: your head coach, what is the motivation for the rest

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Speaker 2: With physicality, that man is a monster. I mean like

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Speaker 2: Back on the field. You were doing the math Florio,

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Speaker 4: So yeah, You're just gonna get him more mad because

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Speaker 4: And it's like, bro it's a dub.

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Speaker 3: Let's say they go two and if they have eight

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Speaker 1: You know, Hey, I think it's probably that.

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Speaker 2: But I'll say, look, I if he's mad, if he's angry,

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Speaker 2: I know that sounds callous, like I get it, but

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Speaker 1: I just I'm not gonna edit it. I put it in,

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Speaker 2: I did think it was funny that after the game,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, all eyebruh, he's like four weeks. I'm over

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Speaker 2: Man, all right?

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Speaker 2: Like sure, Like I don't believe it when he's not

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Speaker 4: Have put him on IR. Just saying seris, I was

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Speaker 2: This is kind of crazy. So so Kyle Shanthan being like,

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Speaker 4: Do they have wide receivers?

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Speaker 4: Cool, because I don't understand if having wide receivers even

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Speaker 4: just ended conversation there. No, you can't trust anyone outside

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Speaker 4: But come on, who else was going to touch that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's pretty bad there for the Jets.

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Speaker 4: I mean, go, I want to pick the smallest jersey

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Speaker 3: It's like nope, nope, it.

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Speaker 2: Right, Like that's just a scene like you're gonna getus,

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Speaker 3: Which you're gonna be out there looking like Zeke.

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Speaker 2: My abs don't look anything like that.

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Speaker 1: Anyway.

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Speaker 2: The Rams were out and took care of business. They

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Speaker 2: gotta win over the forty nine ers. You what do

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Speaker 2: you do so, I'm sure, but sir, I'm sure, I'm

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Speaker 2: sure you have a prepared statement. Was opening the floor

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Speaker 4: Belt boys, my boy, listen, I would say this, you guys,

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Speaker 4: my TikTok dms. You guys are cowards.

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Speaker 1: Oh, our defense is all broken.

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Speaker 2: We have no Fred Warner.

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Speaker 4: What if you won, then you'd be like, well, you

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Speaker 4: you're lost to a backup team because now the early season, right,

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Speaker 4: that works? Listen, I'm not satisfied with this. When I

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Speaker 4: Brock perty come back to here, because the most craziest

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Speaker 4: I said about that, and I would say this, you

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Speaker 4: you guys this way? How are you going to win

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Speaker 4: Do you have the answer for that?

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Speaker 1: Ye think?

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Speaker 2: Have you seen there? No?

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Speaker 1: Literally?

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Speaker 2: Because I thought this, like I'm not I'm not.

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Speaker 3: Their next four games oh my god.

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Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be a smartest, Like have you

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Speaker 1: So like yeah, I like, no, I don't think they

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Speaker 2: Like I think they lose in wildcard weekend, but they

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Speaker 1: For sure.

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Speaker 3: I'm rooting for forty nine ers rams take three in

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure that they get that because I think

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Speaker 2: guys are literally painting this picture and you're doing it too. Man,

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Speaker 2: you suffer from the same forty wine or sickness. Yes,

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Speaker 4: Brandon Nayuk? Is Ricky Piersall even alive? Can we do

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Speaker 4: a wellness check? Because at the same time, you guys

437
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,400
Speaker 4: hold these pieces that are coming back. It doesn't matter

438
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,760
Speaker 4: if they come back, doesn't matter if Brock Party comes back.

439
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 4: You guys are not going to the playoffs. You guys

440
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,879
Speaker 4: are not going to the super Bowl. We're gonna win

441
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Speaker 4: the Super Bowl in your house, and that's gonna be

442
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Speaker 4: the death of all the forty one ers fans even

443
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Speaker 4: speaking anything into existence of anything positive for that organization.

444
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Speaker 1: I'm done. That's all you got. I really expected more

445
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Speaker 1: from you.

446
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Speaker 2: I really did. I thought, because like this was this

447
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,560
Speaker 2: was Shark Week and Christmas and your birthday like all

448
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,800
Speaker 2: rolled into one, and like the saw you at like,

449
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 2: oh yeah, your beat up bad team might not make

450
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Speaker 2: the playoffs.

451
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Speaker 4: Well, I didn't bring up the Converse station Stafford. I

452
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,719
Speaker 4: didn't bring this one up yet, though, Florida. I have

453
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Speaker 4: a lot of smoke with you right now by than me.

454
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Speaker 3: I do know what you're gonna say that he is

455
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Speaker 3: still not the favorite?

456
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Speaker 4: Are you kidding me? How is Matthew Stafford not top

457
00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 4: five or even the MVP top leading candidate right now?

458
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Speaker 4: That's the two arguments I have.

459
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Speaker 3: He's number two right now.

460
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Speaker 4: No, I don't care.

461
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Speaker 3: What the internet says. I don't care all the time.

462
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna point this out too though. These I

463
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Speaker 3: was me and olq Ha a great conversation off air

464
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Speaker 3: the other day about how rams Seahawks is gonna probably

465
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Speaker 3: decide Stafford's MVP fate. But the next six weeks for

466
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Speaker 3: the Rams, you get the Seahawks, the Bucks, the Panthers,

467
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 3: the Cardinals, the Lions, and the Seahawks. If Matthew Stafford

468
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 3: wins the MVP, he's gonna beat the Bucks, beat the Lions,

469
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Speaker 3: and go at least one against the Seahawks. So it's

470
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Speaker 3: all out there for him to do. But right now

471
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 3: he's number two in as terms of the favorites go.

472
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Speaker 4: And that is crazy talk. How how are we talking

473
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,680
Speaker 4: about a man since Week four has twenty touchdowns, zero interceptions.

474
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Speaker 4: It's insane that this man is doing what he's doing

475
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 4: at thirty seventy years old with a back injury.

476
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Speaker 2: How is it that the how is it that the

477
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Speaker 2: leading rusher in the NFL, who has more touchdowns than

478
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Speaker 2: anybody else isn't even in a conversation like.

479
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Speaker 1: Why don't we have he should be the MVP? Of

480
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Speaker 1: my opinion, we need.

481
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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I'm gonna start this conversation like it

482
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Speaker 2: needs to start here. We need I don't know we're

483
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Speaker 2: gonna call it, but we need the.

484
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Speaker 1: Football equivalent of the Cy Young Award.

485
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Speaker 2: We need We just need the Quarterback of the Year award,

486
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:43,360
Speaker 2: So that way the MVP voting is actually open to everybody, right,

487
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 2: offensive players, defensive players alike, Like it needs to be

488
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 2: the most valuable player. We got to stop this whole

489
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 2: it's the best quarterback award, Like that's that's trash. So

490
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,679
Speaker 2: let's come up with we call whatever you want, we

491
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Speaker 2: want you want, you want to call it Tom Brady Award,

492
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Speaker 2: whatever called the Tom Brady Award, but like, just get

493
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Speaker 2: something where we get the yes, I don't need to

494
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 2: call it that, I'm just throwing out names, right, but

495
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,880
Speaker 2: something where we can just already say, okay, this quarterback

496
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 2: was the best quarterback of the year, and congratulations on

497
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Speaker 2: whoever it is. And now let's have a real conversation

498
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Speaker 2: about which player actually meant the most to their team,

499
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Speaker 2: because right now it's silly the fact that we've gone

500
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Speaker 2: what fifteen years since the last time a non quarterback

501
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Speaker 2: has won it.

502
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Speaker 1: Probably even more than that. I got to look again.

503
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Speaker 2: But so then we get help having these silly arguments

504
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 2: that change from week to week too. That's the other

505
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 2: part of this is like which from week to week

506
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Speaker 2: it's done.

507
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Speaker 3: I'll just point out the rams have played one tough

508
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,120
Speaker 3: defense and Stafford threw for listen here a week ago. Bro,

509
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:38,359
Speaker 3: don't do that.

510
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Speaker 2: Don't go on completely crashes out. Let's take a break, dude,

511
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 2: so everybody can go back to their neutral corners. We'll

512
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Speaker 2: take a deep breath, we'll get a drink of water,

513
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Speaker 2: and we'll do a big dealer no deal. Let's come

514
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Speaker 2: it up next on the NFL Batsy Football Podcast. Okay,

515
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Speaker 2: everybody has has cooled off a little bit. We've you know,

516
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Speaker 2: we've done our wusaws. We had a drink of water,

517
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Speaker 2: and we're ready to continue the show.

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Speaker 1: Do a little big dealer, no deal.

519
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Speaker 2: Some of the things that popped up on my radar

520
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Speaker 2: from Sunday and whether or not these are things that

521
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 2: we should actually be paying attention to or if it's

522
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 2: just like a one often, you know, don't really stress

523
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Speaker 2: yourself about it. So Florida Davis Mills playing for the

524
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 2: injured CJ. Stroud, nearly three hundred passing yards, pair of touchdowns,

525
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Speaker 2: even a rushing touchdown, had twenty seven point six fantasy points.

526
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Speaker 1: Is this a big deal or no deal? Down in Houston?

527
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Speaker 3: It depends on who you ask. Because I've had some

528
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Speaker 3: Texans fans in my mentions being like it was the

529
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Speaker 3: Jaguars who cares, And I will point out that earlier

530
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Speaker 3: this year against the same Jaguars defense, the Texans lost.

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Speaker 3: They scored ten points.

532
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Speaker 2: CJ.

533
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Speaker 3: Shroud throw for two four to one and two interceptions

534
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Speaker 3: in that game. But what I think matters even more

535
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Speaker 3: is Nico Collins had a season high in targets, yards

536
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Speaker 3: and fantasy points. Davis Mills comes in and he's like

537
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Speaker 3: Joe Flacco, which Chase right, He's like Nico somewhere. I'm

538
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 3: just gonna put it where he's supposed to be and

539
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 3: it's worked. And then Dalton Schultz also had a season

540
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Speaker 3: high in targets and he had his second best fantasy

541
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Speaker 3: game of the year as well. So I don't think

542
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Speaker 3: it matters in the sense of when if CJ. Shroud

543
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Speaker 3: is healthy enough to play this week. I think he

544
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Speaker 3: does play. But the theme of this season has been

545
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 3: soft bentions, right, And I'm here like you got any

546
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Speaker 3: more of those soft Bensons in Houston, because all I

547
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 3: care about is, as a non Texans fan, is what's

548
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 3: best for fantasy. And maybe it was just one week

549
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 3: and Davis Mills goes back to being Davis Mills. But

550
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 3: when is CJ. Stroud gonna go back to being CJ Stroud?

551
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Speaker 3: Because this is now two years in a row that

552
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Speaker 3: this is the guy in the product that we are getting.

553
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Speaker 3: So while it might not be a big deal in

554
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Speaker 3: the grand scheme of things for Houston, I do think

555
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Speaker 3: it is a big deal in the sense of if

556
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Speaker 3: Stroud keeps playing bad, people are going to start to

557
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Speaker 3: be like questioning him and this offense moving forward.

558
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Speaker 1: The further we go into CJ.

559
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Speaker 2: Stroud's career, it is looking more and more like that

560
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 2: rookie season was the outlier in that this version of

561
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Speaker 2: c J. Stroud is closer to what the real thing

562
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Speaker 2: is going to be. Yeah, obviously he's no time for

563
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 2: for things to turn around, but you know the clock's

564
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Speaker 2: ticking on Stroud getting things going.

565
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Speaker 4: He might be on the middle meter next year.

566
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Speaker 2: A little spoiler alert, We're not putting We're not putting

567
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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence back on the middle like you threw him

568
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Speaker 2: away last week.

569
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Speaker 1: He's still off.

570
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Speaker 4: He's in one of these trash bags around. He's gone,

571
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 4: he's to Yeah, he's been retired. I mean, honestly, I

572
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Speaker 4: have an updated like I'll ignore the Trevion Henderson side.

573
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Speaker 4: I mean, like t floor, h you actually put a

574
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Speaker 4: whole lot of more labels on. It's gone.

575
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Speaker 1: It's on rip like you erase this side.

576
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all he's given.

577
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Speaker 3: Us is the floor. One fact that I saw while

578
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,879
Speaker 3: writing up Trevor Lawrence today, he's broke twenty Fantasy points

579
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Speaker 3: twice all year.

580
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Speaker 5: Both were games that he ran for two touchdowns. Well

581
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 5: woo wide receiver suffered. Yeah, yeah, it's nasty worst Daniel Jones.

582
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Speaker 5: Like I again, I'm trying to avoid rabbit holes. Like

583
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 5: you know, let's just keep the show moving. That's that's

584
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 5: my job here. I'm the I am, I'm the ring

585
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 5: master man. It's got to keep this thing moving.

586
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones. Lakwan, you have been the Daniel Jones Champion

587
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 2: all year longch look to your credit, like because you

588
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 2: said that in the preseason and we kind of snickered,

589
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 2: like ah, and then like you know, you got the

590
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 2: last left for the.

591
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Speaker 1: First six eight weeks or whatever.

592
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 2: But yesterday fifteen and a half points, second straight game

593
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Speaker 2: with fewer than sixteen points. And I know a lot

594
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: of people, especially Giants fans, are you know, they're doing

595
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 2: the Leonardo DiCaprio point at the TV thing. Now, is

596
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: this a big deal or no deal that he's kind

597
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 2: of slumping at the at the moment, I.

598
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Speaker 4: Would say it's a deal like kind of in the middle.

599
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 4: Big not really because when you look at Danane Jones

600
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Speaker 4: and what we saw even in the game that he

601
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 4: didn't give us those high QB one fantacy point, he

602
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 4: was still doing great things getting out of the pocket,

603
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 4: avoiding the stupid turnovers, even though he has seven in

604
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 4: the last two games. I do think there could have

605
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 4: been racked up times where we could see dan Jones

606
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 4: turn back into that Giants quarterback where the interceptions, the fumbles,

607
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 4: they all just keep racking up in the same game.

608
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 4: So I think they go into this by they hit

609
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 4: the reset button like rest of the season. I'm still

610
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 4: looking at Daiane Jones as a QB one, but I'm

611
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 4: going to be more cautious about the matchups that I

612
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 4: put him in because now we're seeing him deal with pressure, right.

613
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 4: I think it started off, it cracked off in that

614
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 4: Rams game where you see him dealing with pressure. The

615
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 4: Denver game. They're one of the best and one of

616
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 4: the most ivicious QB pressure rates of defenses, but he

617
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 4: was able to come out with a win. But then

618
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 4: you look at these last two games. The Titans even

619
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 4: gave him a little trouble with pressure. So I'm looking

620
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Speaker 4: at how when we're looking at Daniane Jones in terms

621
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Speaker 4: of how do we get him into our starting lineup,

622
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 4: all you have to do is look at your QB two.

623
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Speaker 4: If he don't have the rushing upside, if he doesn't

624
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Speaker 4: have the Jonathan Taylor type of caliber of a running back,

625
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Speaker 4: there's no way that I'm going to be trying to

626
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Speaker 4: force him into a matchup to where he's going to

627
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Speaker 4: have that QB pressure running down his neck.

628
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think the other part of Daniel Jones

629
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 2: for fantasy at least is if you drafted Daniel Jones,

630
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 2: you drafted another quarterback. You know, no one drafted Daniel

631
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 2: Jones to be like, you're my guy. You know I'm

632
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 2: gonna start you every single week. Don't worry about it. Like, so, yeah,

633
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 2: it hasn't been great the last couple of weeks. But

634
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 2: also if you're really really worried about it, you probably

635
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: have another option on your bench that you can sort

636
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 2: of turn to.

637
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Speaker 1: So there's the silver lining on that Florida.

638
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 2: You and I were on the Jamison Williams train all

639
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:47,719
Speaker 2: off season. It hasn't really happened until it suddenly did Sunday.

640
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 2: Six catches, one hundred and nineteen yards and a touchdown,

641
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 2: almost twenty four fantasy points. I mean they I mean

642
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 2: you can do the ole. Oh they're playing the Commanders

643
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 2: and the Commanders are bad. Yeah, sure, but he still

644
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 2: had a nice game, first twenty point game this year.

645
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Speaker 1: So is that a big deal or no deal?

646
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 2: Florio?

647
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 3: Uh No, it is a big deal because if you

648
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 3: go back to the week prior six, he had six

649
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 3: targets in that game as well, and that might not

650
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 3: sound like a whole lot, but at that time it

651
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 3: was his third most and watching that game two weeks ago,

652
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 3: in my opinion, at least the Lions offense started clicking

653
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 3: in the second half when they started involving Jamison Williams more.

654
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 3: And that was right after Dan Campbell was pretty vocal

655
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 3: on saying we need to get hit. He didn't say

656
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 3: him by name, but everyone knew who he was talking

657
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 3: about when he said they need to get their downfield

658
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 3: presence more involved. Then we learned yesterday which shout out

659
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 3: to Mike Garafola with the awesome reporting that has now

660
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 3: become a huge story in the NFL. Dan Campbell is

661
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 3: calling the plays again like there was a clear disconnect

662
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 3: with John mooreton there. And it's no coincidence in my

663
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 3: opinion that Dan Campbell being in charge of the play

664
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 3: calling has led to more involvement for Jamison Williams. It's

665
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 3: not like Jamison Williams stopped being Jamison Williams. Just look

666
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 3: at his game log and there's legit games where he

667
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 3: had three targets, two targets, one target. It's hard to

668
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 3: be productive when you're not getting the opportunity to produce.

669
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 3: So I think it's arrows up right now for Jamison Williams.

670
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 3: I have him in a number of leagues and I'm

671
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 3: back to like there was a point this year where

672
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 3: I just started sitting him. I'm back the last couple

673
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 3: of weeks to starting him. Granted it was two favorable matchups,

674
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 3: but I just think with the change of play caller,

675
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 3: there is something tangible that we could we could point

676
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 3: to and be like that is what changed, and that

677
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 3: is what's led to the success for Jamison Williams. It's

678
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 3: not like it's just a random deep catch, because we've

679
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 3: seen that from him already.

680
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 2: I think it's funny that Dan Campbell takes over the

681
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 2: play calling and the offense sort of springs to life,

682
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 2: just because you got the sense of the preseason when

683
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 2: everybody kept asking over and over again like how does

684
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: this offense cope with losing Ben Johnson? And by the

685
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 2: end of the training camp in the preseason, you could

686
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 2: see that Dan Campbell was getting cut kind of annoyed

687
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: by having to answer that the whole time, like, hey, guys,

688
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 2: I'm still here. We still have a lot of great

689
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 2: coaches here, and now Dan Campbell, after the offense was

690
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 2: kind of meh, takes over the play calling and they

691
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: look kind of like the Lions again. So yeah, it

692
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: is what it is, right, last one here, Jalen Naylor

693
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: Lakwan five catches a buck, twenty four in a touchdown,

694
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 2: twenty three point four fantasy points. I went and did

695
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,239
Speaker 2: the math between weeks four and nine combined, he had

696
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 2: twenty four point seven points. He had a couple of

697
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 2: zeros in there too along the way. So Jalen Naylor

698
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 2: breaking out with JJ McCarthy at quarterback.

699
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 4: Big deal or no deal, no deal. I mean I

700
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 4: do like the numbers. I do like what he's performing

701
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 4: with JJ McCarthy nineteen point nine yards per reception. So

702
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 4: he is getting utilized deep downfield just as much as

703
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 4: a Justin Jefferson. So I look at Jalen Naylor as

704
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 4: a guy. If you're in those deeper leagues, the fourteen

705
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 4: sixteen leagues, you guys are crazy, by the way, more

706
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 4: ruin good teams. Then that's when you start looking at

707
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 4: guys that have this buster boom strapped him. Because there's

708
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 4: some games in there. In these last couple of games

709
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 4: with JJ, he has one catch and there's like not

710
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 4: enough volume that's going to be strapped in that I

711
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 4: can trust in roster. So I'm looking at this side

712
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 4: eye it like, yeah, I ain't that down bad to

713
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 4: even try to entertain that, Like it's cool, that's great

714
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 4: what's happening over there. But I don't see the need

715
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 4: of absolute right now thinking that this is going to

716
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 4: blossom to anywhere near Like how we can compare to

717
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 4: a like a Wandall Robson as a flex appeal, you

718
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 4: know what I mean? So like that's the bar one.

719
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: I mean not to take away from him. But one

720
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: of those catches too, he broke a couple of tackles

721
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 2: and had a long run after the catch too, which

722
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 2: sort of factored into that which is hard to count

723
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 2: on on a regular basis. It did just kind of

724
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 2: feel like one of those one off games that sort

725
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: of nize. Although it's funny because before I started putting

726
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 2: together the list of sleepers sort of early just kind

727
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: of based on matchups, and then I was like.

728
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: Hey, what about Gelin Naylor, like next week, you know,

729
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: could he maybe have something?

730
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: And and then all of a sudden he does all

731
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 2: of this, and I'm like, now it's gonna feel like

732
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 2: now people would be like, you're just you're just following

733
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 2: the trends.

734
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: So I'm not like, now I can't Now I can't

735
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: use him. Now I can't use it.

736
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 2: I was like, no, like really, I put the name

737
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 2: down and then he had to.

738
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 4: Be average in nearly fifty yards per game with JJ

739
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 4: right now, but it's still the small sample of looking

740
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 4: at what they have a body of work together, and

741
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 4: do we honestly trust JJ?

742
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: I mean not yet, play not yet.

743
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 3: The other thing is Jefferson at twelve targets Addison had eleven.

744
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 3: You know, like he's still he couldn't get the ball

745
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 3: to them, but he's trying.

746
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 2: Like he missed a lot of throws to both of

747
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: those guys on Sunday.

748
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 4: So nine, that's his nickname, his alter ego.

749
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 2: Nine.

750
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, one interception. Jefferson didn't even try like he

751
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 3: looked fed up.

752
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 4: Well, he just was walking towards that tackle on that.

753
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 2: There are a few times I went back and watched

754
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 2: it last that a few times he looked very fed up,

755
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 2: just kind of like the.

756
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 4: His Fitt ball that justin Jefferson is down there somewhere

757
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 4: is not It's not any Yeah, no, it's not. Try

758
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 4: it again.

759
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 2: Quick rookie report before we hit a break here and

760
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 2: four rookies who had notable games on Sunday, Florida. Want

761
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 2: to start with you, because if finally happened, your dude,

762
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 2: finally did it. Traveon Henderson one hundred and forty seven

763
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 2: rushing yards, two rushing touchdowns. He had one catch for

764
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 2: three yards. Okay, but twenty eight fantasy points. All it

765
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 2: took Floria was for pretty much the entirety of the

766
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 2: Patriots backfield to get fanost. But does this mean, Mike

767
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 2: ray bold Out believes in his rookie running back.

768
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 3: I can't say that it does, but it should because

769
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 3: Ramandre Stevenson has no explosiveness. And the other thing is like,

770
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 3: what have we been saying, and I've been saying all year,

771
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 3: is like give him the ball on outside zone runs.

772
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 3: Every Patriot running back has struggled running up the middle

773
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 3: until yesterday. Not only did Traveon Henderson go off one

774
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 3: hundred and forty in rush yards is the most anyone

775
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 3: has had against the Bucks this season, he is the

776
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 3: only running back to average over ten yards per carry

777
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 3: on inside and outside carries in the same game this season.

778
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:15,720
Speaker 3: And his top speed yesterday, only Jonathan Taylor and Jamior

779
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 3: Gabes have reached a higher top speed his average speed

780
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 3: on the season, only a Chan and Walker are higher. Like,

781
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 3: the guy is every bit that we have advertised as

782
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,919
Speaker 3: the home run hitter. And to me, what I kept

783
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 3: saying was like, once he hits these home runs, I

784
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 3: don't think you could put the genie back in the bottle.

785
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 3: So they do have a short week this week, which

786
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 3: I think works in his favor. I'm playing him everywhere.

787
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 3: I have him against the Jets but like, if you

788
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 3: are the Patriots, you have been getting by with explosive

789
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 3: plays in the passing game, wouldn't you want your offense

790
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 3: to be even more dynamic and have that explosive ability

791
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 3: out of the backfield. Now I feel so vindicated because

792
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 3: it took way longer than I thought, But this is

793
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 3: everything that I explained and thought he could be here.

794
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 3: And even more so, it's like, very well, imagine what

795
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 3: he could have been a few weeks ago if you

796
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 3: gave him more chances early on. Like I was watching

797
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 3: this game like Ron Swanson when he's drunk in that episode,

798
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 3: just dancing on the head like this was the happiest

799
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 3: I'm going to be all season long. I've accepted that.

800
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 3: But yeah, like like maybe it's a one off, I

801
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 3: don't know, but it shouldn't be because he is living

802
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 3: up to every bit as advertised and every bit that

803
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 3: made you take him in the second round of the

804
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 3: NFL Draft.

805
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see, we'll see whether they're not this actually sticks,

806
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 2: you would think so you would hope that at least

807
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: gives him more opportunity even when Ramandre Stevenson his back,

808
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 2: or if Mike Rabel decides just to be stubborn and

809
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 2: you know, put him back on the bench. We'll see.

810
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: Look on Dylan Gabriel.

811
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 2: One hundred and sixty seven passing yards, a couple of

812
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 2: passing touchdowns, also fifty four rushing yards just to shade

813
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 2: over twenty points. Does this mean maybe Dylan Gabriel's figuring

814
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 2: it out or is it just the Jets defense is

815
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: bad because they traded their good players.

816
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 4: I mean, for the defense to be bad, Dylan Gabriel

817
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 4: still looked to be mid and still one in six

818
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 4: as a starter. Like, what are we doing here?

819
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 5: Right?

820
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,439
Speaker 4: Like there there's been an experiment. We've seen how it's

821
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 4: playing now. I mean we look at the games that

822
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 4: he's playing. They're losing by a ten or they keep

823
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 4: it close, or he's not even the reason why they win.

824
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 4: Like you go back to their one win. You look

825
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 4: in that game Quinn Shawn Jenkins had three touchdowns. My

826
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 4: guy had less than less than one hundred and forty yards,

827
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 4: less than two hundred yards in most of his games. Like,

828
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 4: we're looking at a player that's not excelling. He's not

829
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 4: lifting or elevating this Browns offense to anything. Next, I

830
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 4: think it's time. It's it's short or time, Like is

831
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 4: it time to put him in? Like let him finish

832
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 4: the back end the season? See what you got?

833
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 2: I mean, didn't he didn't finish? Right, you have to

834
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 2: finish the game yesterday? If no, I guess he did not.

835
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 2: I thought maybe he was was coming it's time. I

836
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: saw people tweeting posting that it was time, So I

837
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 2: thought that meant he actually was in the game. But

838
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 2: you know they think they were just wishing for it.

839
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 3: Don't wish work for it needs to be entertaining, right,

840
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 3: people will watch Browns games for a change.

841
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 4: I guess I frekeem Stefanski. Man, he's trying to do

842
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 4: the worst job. He kind of get out.

843
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 6: I mean maybe, but also I agree he's like I

844
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 6: don't care if everything bad is happening, right, if all

845
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 6: this bad is happening and all this offense is terrible,

846
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 6: and Shoulders still can't work his way in, Like, oh no, man.

847
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 2: At some point you got to look around the table

848
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: and figure out you know who.

849
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: The problem is.

850
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 4: Players like harro Fan and Junior are starting to decline, right,

851
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 4: Like he's starting to decline in his production, Like there

852
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 4: needs to be a change, Like there's obviously a night

853
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 4: and day situation, even though Joe Flacco was bad in

854
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 4: hisself in Cleveland. But we see what Joe Flacco can do,

855
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 4: Like we see him elevate the Bengals back to somewhat

856
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 4: conversation of having a T. Higgins and Jamar Chase and

857
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 4: starting lineups that we could trust. But with Dylan Gabriel,

858
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 4: it's like, what are we getting here? Like what are

859
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 4: we doing? We're not gaining anything. We're just watching a

860
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 4: young man go out there. And again, I don't want

861
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 4: to poop pool on his parade. I don't want to

862
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 4: yuck his yum. But at the same time, it's like, hey,

863
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 4: we got fantasy rosters out here. I still have harrow

864
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 4: fan and junior starters in most of my tight end

865
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 4: positions in these leagues. So I need production to be elevated,

866
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 4: and I think Shudor should get a shot at doing that.

867
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 3: I guess Jonah Hill already quit on them.

868
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 2: I just look at it as any Browns that I have,

869
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 2: we're sort of a luxury that I can go back

870
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 2: to something else.

871
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 4: Jerry Judy is still rostered. I don't know how, but.

872
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: You got a touchdown yesterday.

873
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 2: Actually, maybe the best game of the season yesterday, and

874
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: that was all she wrote. I don't mean to keep

875
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 2: asking you about the Houston Texans Florida, but I'm gonna

876
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 2: ask you about the Houston Texans again. What he Mark's

877
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 2: sixty three rushing yards to touchdown, two catches for eighteen yards,

878
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 2: sixteen points. I mean, it's not spectacular, but it's not

879
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 2: terrible For a guy that you grabbed off the waiver wire.

880
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 2: You're using it as a fill in this is is

881
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: it time? It's time with Nick Chubb? Right, it's just

882
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 2: it's been It's been wonderful. We wish him the best,

883
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: but it's just time. It's gotta be.

884
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 3: I think it's time where we could stop trusting him

885
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 3: in fantasy Like yesterday he played fifteen percent of the snaps.

886
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 3: He had five carries in one target. You cannot trust

887
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 3: someone with that little volume. But the thing that's been

888
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 3: super frustrating about this backfield is we've had many different

889
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 3: opportunities this year where it looks like Woody Marx is

890
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 3: fully taken over, and then the next week it's back

891
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 3: to fifty to fifty Nick Chubb involved. Like, you cannot

892
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 3: trust Nick Chubb enough, but his involvement makes it where

893
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 3: it makes it tougher to trust Woody Marx as anything

894
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 3: more than a flex option, because like I tweeted out

895
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 3: this usage yesterday and I was like, it's looking like

896
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 3: Marx is taking over, and all the comments are like,

897
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 3: but next week I'll be a Chubb week because everyone

898
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 3: is sick and tired of chasing their tail with this backfield.

899
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 3: I do have Woody marks on a couple of teams.

900
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 3: I'm interested in him moving forward, but I want to

901
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 3: see it. I'm still at a point where I can't

902
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 3: elevate him to anything more than a flex because of

903
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 3: how frustrating this backfield has been utilized week to week.

904
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's the thing. It's just I just

905
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 2: want them to finally say, hey, look what he marks.

906
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 2: This is your gig now you and like you know, hey,

907
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 2: Nick Chubb will come in every once in a while

908
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 2: just to give you a breather, but but this is

909
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 2: your backfield.

910
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: But it doesn't seem like they want to do that.

911
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 4: I just, oh, my god, is that Joe Mixon's music?

912
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 4: Like that's literally what's going to happen.

913
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 2: It's really not. It's not gonna be Joe mixing. Would

914
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: that be if that happen at least for the rest

915
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 2: of this year.

916
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 3: You know the give where the wrestler pulls the blanket

917
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 3: over his broken leg and he's fine. Yes, except for

918
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 3: that leg is fully wrapped in the cast.

919
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: Exactly, He's not fine. Like it's the fact that they

920
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 2: don't even utter his name down there in Houston tells you.

921
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 1: I think everything you pretty much need to know. I'm

922
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: Soli Kwan.

923
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 2: Would you like to apologize to Tyler Shuck where you're

924
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 2: not really familiar with his game? Two hundred and eighty

925
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 2: two passing yards and two touchdowns. I know you said

926
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:58,959
Speaker 2: you wanted to see more from him. Did you see

927
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 2: what you wanted from Tyler Shuck?

928
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 4: I would like to take this moment to apologize absolutely nobody,

929
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 4: because one I had to take back my words. I

930
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 4: went back and watched the film. Those two touchdowns were

931
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 4: blown coverages. The defenders fell on both of them. So no,

932
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 4: I will not be apologizing to Tyler Shuck. I need

933
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 4: to see more. I'm gonna stick to my grounds because

934
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, I appreciate the quarterback

935
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 4: when he helps my fantasy roster. Okay, I'm going to

936
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 4: be so selfish in this because I have a lot

937
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 4: of Juwan Johnson to see that his first two completions,

938
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 4: his first two attempts were to Juwan Johnson. It's encouraging,

939
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 4: but I need to see more the touchdowns I'm taking

940
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 4: out of the equation because that's everything that the fantasy

941
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 4: streets were championing him on. If you look at both touchdowns,

942
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 4: both defenders fall down and trip over their feet. That

943
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 4: is what we like to call a Quentin Johnson blown coverage.

944
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 4: I am not going to champion Tyler Schuck on that.

945
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 4: I will appreciate him escaping the pocket at times and

946
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 4: keeping his eyes down field and finding somebody like a

947
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 4: Juwan Johnson. As long as he stays on track and

948
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 4: on pace to get the ball to the players that

949
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 4: I have on my roster and everybody else as well,

950
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 4: and Chris o'lobvey as well, I could take him out

951
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 4: of the Saturl discontent.

952
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, yeah, he can come out.

953
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 4: He can come out, he's fine, and the doors locked

954
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 4: behind him. He can't get back in.

955
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 1: Christ O Lovey has.

956
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,439
Speaker 4: Officially been removed from the Satul discontent, but I will

957
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 4: say this, there still needs to be more proven from

958
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 4: Tyler Shuck Like, I'm not looking at these stats and

959
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 4: saying like, yeah, that's the game. He completed over seventy

960
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 4: percent of his passes. Well, Spencer Raller did that four

961
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 4: times in his time when he started, So that's nothing

962
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 4: like that's like eye popping, So I need to see more. Ultimately,

963
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 4: I'll just.

964
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 3: Point out he had fifty more yards than Spencer Ralller's

965
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 3: high on the season.

966
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: Oh, here we go.

967
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 4: It's because of the two blown coverage touchdowns, bro, But

968
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 4: that's more of a negative from Spencer Rallery.

969
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 2: If he missed them, right, if he overthrew him, then

970
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: you would hammer him for that.

971
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, you're absolutely correct.

972
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: So you know, I don't know. I give him his flowers.

973
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 1: He made the throws when he had to make the throws.

974
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 2: Not yet, Okay, I use the Falcons next week, so

975
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 2: that'll be interesting because Atlanta's defense at times is good

976
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: and at times not. So. I mean that's all I

977
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 2: got for you on that one more break come back.

978
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: We'll talk about some guys as you can say goodbye

979
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 2: to on your fantasy rosters, and some guys you should

980
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 2: maybe be saying hello to, depending on your needs. That's

981
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 2: coming up next on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Time

982
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 2: to visit The Drop Zone, which is an underrated Wesley

983
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 2: Snipe's action movie from the nineties. Go check it out

984
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 2: if you are so inclined. Yeah, back when Wesley Snipes

985
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 2: was doing the damn thing as like a legit action

986
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 2: movie star back in the nineties.

987
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:39,879
Speaker 4: Simon says, what movie is that?

988
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: What movie is that? That's from a demolition Man? Yes,

989
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 1: which side note to that is it was.

990
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 2: It was his character and demolition Man that initially persuaded

991
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,479
Speaker 2: Dennis Rodman to dye his hair blonde, and then.

992
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 3: Rod all of this is why I am shocked that

993
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 3: there's so many horror movies that you've never like. Yeah,

994
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 3: you never got so much about cinema.

995
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 2: I've just never gotten into horror movies. It's just like,

996
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know, it just never did.

997
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 2: There's just never a thing for me. I never loved

998
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: The Halloween. I think maybe because as a kid, like

999
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, I had a bad scary experience and

1000
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 2: so I just just never just never got into horror movies.

1001
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1002
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: It just it's a blind spot. I would it is

1003
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: a blind spot for me. So yeah, I don't know.

1004
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,439
Speaker 3: It took me like seven years of doing this pod

1005
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 3: with you to find that blind spot, and I'm happy

1006
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 3: I was the only one who hasn't seen every movie there.

1007
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 2: It is to say, anyway he drop zone guys that

1008
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 2: we are putting back into the waiver wirepool, who are

1009
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 2: you saying goodbye to.

1010
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 4: The Unfortunately Jordan Mason, I just can't hold on any longer.

1011
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 4: It looks like Aaron Jones is back. I mean obviously

1012
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 4: him coming back with fifty percent of the snaps these

1013
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 4: last three games. It's kind of looking like Jordan Mason

1014
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 4: is now back to being the backup plan. But like

1015
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 4: even with Jordan Mason had his opportunities, he just wasn't

1016
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 4: returning like RB one like I thought he could have

1017
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 4: that ceiling. So I understand if folks are going to

1018
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 4: drop him. I understand if folks want to give him

1019
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 4: one last chance against the Bears. I'm looking at it

1020
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 4: as like, look, man, I got to move on. There's

1021
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 4: some guys that are starting to pop up with the

1022
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 4: waiver wire. The trade deadline is coming in a lot

1023
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 4: of leagues, is this week next week For a lot

1024
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 4: of folks like folks are starting to build their championship rosters,

1025
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 4: and right now I don't see Jordan Mason being usable

1026
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 4: as long as Aaron Jones is playing at this level.

1027
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Jones look good. He looked really good

1028
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 2: yesterday against the Ravens. Side note to that, because I

1029
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 2: did go back and watch that game. I'm not ready

1030
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 2: to make a full on declaration about Derrick Henry, but

1031
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 2: it looks like the cliff is coming. It's just it

1032
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: looks like it's coming. It just he doesn't you know,

1033
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: he has those moments when he still does have that burst.

1034
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: And there was a play where he.

1035
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 2: You know, he did the classic Derrick Henry stiff arm

1036
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 2: someone into the shadow realm, but those are becoming fewer

1037
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 2: and farther between. You know, obviously he still has it

1038
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 2: in him. He's you know, he's had a couple of

1039
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,760
Speaker 2: really big games where he's gone for about a buck twenty.

1040
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 2: But it's just, you know, he's always been a guy

1041
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 2: that you when he gets up ahead of steam, you

1042
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 2: don't want to tackle him. But it seems like it's

1043
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 2: taking him longer to get to that top speed, to

1044
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 2: get to that spot. So you know, I won't obviously

1045
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 2: see how this season plays out with him, but I'm

1046
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 2: starting to think we have seen or we are seeing

1047
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 2: the end of Derrick Henry as like a bona fide

1048
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 2: fantasy stud running back. I think it's just coming. So anyway,

1049
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 2: you're not dropping him. I'm not suggested that you should

1050
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 2: drop Dereck Henry, don't. That's not why I mentioned it.

1051
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 2: I just you mentioned that game. I was talking about

1052
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 2: the thing I saw also in that game, spinning it

1053
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 2: to the next year. I'm not drafting Derrick Henry at all. Yeah,

1054
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 2: I just you know, we'll see what his ADP is.

1055
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 2: But certainly if we're talking like a first round or

1056
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 2: even early second round, I don't know that I'm in

1057
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 2: on Derrick Henry just yet.

1058
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 4: It seems like an Alvin Kamara pick for next year.

1059
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it you that bad.

1060
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 2: I don't think I'll have that quite a fall off,

1061
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 2: but it's coming. It is coming, for sure, Florida. Who

1062
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 2: are you saying goodbye to?

1063
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 3: It pains me to say it, but ja Cory Krossky

1064
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 3: merrit Outside of like, I have a couple of real

1065
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 3: deep leagues where I'm not going to drop him. But

1066
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 3: besides that, like if you're in a ten team or

1067
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,760
Speaker 3: a regular twelve team league, like he gets the Dolphins

1068
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 3: next week, right, And the reason I wrote his name

1069
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 3: down was because the Dolphins on paper are a fantastic

1070
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 3: matchup for running backs, and I was like, I can't

1071
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 3: even consider including him as a start and start sits.

1072
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 3: So if I can't play him and what is maybe

1073
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 3: the best or one of the best matchups for a

1074
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 3: running back, then I don't think he is rosterable. And

1075
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 3: the frustrating part is, like it comes down to usage.

1076
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 3: He's got to play better as well at times, but

1077
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 3: he has looked the part at times.

1078
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 2: This year.

1079
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 3: It's been very up or down. But in the past

1080
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 3: the game that's gonna be more Jeremy McNichols. Now he's

1081
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 3: got to worry about Chris Rodriguez in the run game,

1082
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 3: especially near the goal line. His quarterback, regardless of which

1083
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,760
Speaker 3: one it is, is always a threat to vulture touchdowns

1084
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 3: at the goal line away. So it's all floor, and

1085
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 3: that floor is lower and lower. In his last five games,

1086
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 3: you could a it all up. It's not even as

1087
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 3: big as that one game he had in what like

1088
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 3: Week four or five. It was so yeah, it's I

1089
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 3: think it's time with Bill. Unfortunately, if he didn't have

1090
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 3: that cool nickname, he would have been dropping.

1091
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 4: We got to stop giving players cool nicknames before they

1092
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 4: actually do anything. That's why the middle meter was created.

1093
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 4: I think he came into the league with this nickname.

1094
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 4: He didn't just it isn't just yeah, we kind of

1095
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 4: a load up.

1096
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 3: That's on us.

1097
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 4: That's on us.

1098
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 2: I think the other thing that you know, again, this

1099
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 2: is hindsight, right, but we do spend a lot of

1100
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 2: time talking about draft capital and how much that impacts

1101
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 2: running backs, running backs especially, I think we all sort

1102
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 2: of glossed over the fact that he was a seventh

1103
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 2: round pick, right, and guys like I mean, there's a reason.

1104
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously teams miss all the time, but generally speaking,

1105
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 2: especially with running backs, teams tend to sort of follow that, right,

1106
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 2: And a guy who lasted as long as he did

1107
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 2: in the draft and was always sort of intended to

1108
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 2: be a last resort. I mean, let's remember they they

1109
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 2: started this year with Austin Eckler. I mean, they traded

1110
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 2: Brian Robinson just before the season started, but they came

1111
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 2: into training camp with Austin Eckler and Brian Robinson as

1112
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 2: there two running backs. It's sort of worked out because

1113
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 2: of situations circumstances that JCM.

1114
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: Got this opportunity. So I don't maybe got we got

1115
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: a little who.

1116
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 4: Hyped if Eckler was still healthy. I don't know if

1117
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,280
Speaker 4: we will be even at weeked and even mentioning j CM,

1118
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 4: like you would just just be part of the function

1119
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 4: of that backfield behind Eckler.

1120
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 2: He would be the hey, keep an eye on him

1121
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 2: just in case Eckler gets hurt, Like that's would be

1122
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 2: that would be the conversation.

1123
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: You know what.

1124
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 4: Brian Robinson, he was the first running back to score

1125
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,720
Speaker 4: a rushing touchdown against my Rams defense.

1126
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 3: Congrats he ran. I don't know which defender that was,

1127
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 3: but he did run that dude over.

1128
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,439
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, we're not going to name him.

1129
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 2: He's actually been playing well the last few weeks and

1130
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 2: earned that boy.

1131
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 4: Yeah he's and we love that boy, but YO, don't

1132
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 4: let that happen again.

1133
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 3: I mean you're gonna be seeing that run tomorrow on it.

1134
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: Now he's getting more and more opportunity.

1135
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 2: Obviously, Christian McCaffrey dominates, but Brian Robinson has been playing

1136
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,320
Speaker 2: well the last few weeks. You know, the few chances

1137
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 2: he gets, he's trying to make the most of them,

1138
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 2: So you know, can't can't fault him for that. My

1139
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:17,760
Speaker 2: drop and ear muffs on this one, Florio's it's justin fields.

1140
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 2: At this point, we are through a good chunk of

1141
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 2: the buys. Maybe your quarterback still has a buy to

1142
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 2: come over the next few weeks, but for a lot

1143
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 2: of you, your quarterback has already had their buy, and

1144
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 2: chances are if it's a guy that you trust, it's

1145
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 2: one of the upper level guys. That's the guy you're

1146
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:36,120
Speaker 2: going to start. Justin fields. You drafted or you added

1147
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,240
Speaker 2: because you needed support, because you just wanted another option.

1148
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 2: But it's also the point that his front office is

1149
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 2: ownership group doesn't trust him, doesn't seem to like him.

1150
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 2: And now you've got a head coach that is playing

1151
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 2: mind games. Look, maybe what he's telling the guys in

1152
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 2: the quarterback room is different than what he's telling the

1153
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 2: general public. But if Aaron Glynn's going to play these

1154
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 2: mind games every week of I'm not telling you who

1155
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 2: I'm starting, you know, you guys don't need to know

1156
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 2: that information. If we are sitting here waiting until Sunday

1157
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 2: morning to figure out if Justin Fields is playing like

1158
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 2: what we're getting from Justin Fields on a week to

1159
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 2: week basis is not worth the mental gymnastics that Aaron

1160
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 2: Glenn is putting us through about his starting quarterback situation.

1161
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: I just don't want the headache. I don't want the

1162
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: hassle for a guy.

1163
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 2: Who maybe gets me twenty points but also maybe gets

1164
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 2: me four. Like, I just can't do that every week.

1165
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 2: And so for all the upside that's there. And look,

1166
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 2: I wish Fields the best as a quarterback in the NFL,

1167
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 2: though I think his journey as a starter is pretty

1168
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 2: much coming to an end. I just can't with him

1169
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 2: anymore on my fantasy rosters.

1170
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 1: It's just time at this point.

1171
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 3: So if Eron Glenn plays the quarterback game this week

1172
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 3: and we all just ignore it because Fields is won

1173
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 3: two in a row, like, you're not getting away from

1174
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 3: him on a short week. We all know it, Like, yeah,

1175
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 3: don't do it again, that.

1176
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 4: Is true Division game two.

1177
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, So well see how this goes top of the cap.

1178
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 2: Those are the guys we are saying goodbye to. Of course,

1179
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 2: uh Waiver Wire as we head into Week eleven, he's

1180
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 2: go to eleven. Who are we potentially adding off the

1181
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 2: waiver wire this week? Florio, I think if you need it.

1182
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 3: It's awful that it's in a week where there's only

1183
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 3: two buys, but there's a lot of good streaming options,

1184
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 3: like Joe Flacco just needs to be picked up. Jacoby Brissett.

1185
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 3: I'd argue the same over nineteen Fantasy points in all

1186
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 3: four of his starts. It doesn't always look pretty. Sometimes

1187
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 3: it looks hideous, but it is always effective. It was

1188
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 3: awful to start, yes, Dad, Aaron Rodgers because he has

1189
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,720
Speaker 3: the Bengals this week. JJ McCarthy gets the Bears, Tua

1190
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 3: gets the Commanders. I know we're wasting all the good

1191
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 3: matchups on these guys, but you need a streaming quarterback.

1192
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 3: They're the ones that get the matchups. And then Brock

1193
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 3: Purdy maybe he comes back, who knows, but if he's

1194
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 3: out there, I think he should be picked up. Running

1195
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 3: back wise, Trey Benson, he could be activated at any point.

1196
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:04,439
Speaker 3: Tyler Alzeer because it's maddening to me that how much

1197
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 3: usage he gets, especially in the red zone, but it's working.

1198
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:11,760
Speaker 3: Sean Tucker. There's no timeline on Bucky Irving. They're saying

1199
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 3: Tucker was more utilized this past week, and he gets

1200
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 3: the Bills. And then a couple of handcuffs for you guys,

1201
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 3: Brian Robinson Jr. Just in case, Blake Korum just in case,

1202
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 3: and then some wide receivers. Alec Pierce I think absolutely

1203
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 3: needs to be picked up right now. The floor is

1204
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 3: so much safer than it's ever been and the upside

1205
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 3: remains very high. Toy Franklin I think is the wide

1206
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 3: receiver one for the Broncos at least usage wise. Tesz Johnson. Look,

1207
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 3: Chris Godwin might not be back for another month at

1208
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 3: this point, and Tesz is getting the job done. Parker

1209
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 3: Washington continues to be utilized in the slot there. I

1210
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 3: like Darius Slayton more before we know what's going on

1211
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 3: with the Giants right now. And then some Stashes and

1212
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 3: Brandon Ayuk, Jaylen McMillan, and Luther Burden and Matt Collins

1213
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:58,760
Speaker 3: if you're into that thing as well. He's been playing

1214
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 3: better assively. And then lastly some tight ends. Kate Aughton

1215
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 3: has been highly highly utilized. Dawson Knox could be the

1216
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 3: Bills tight end one for the foreseeable future with the

1217
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 3: Kincaid dealing with the hamstring. Deil Johnson has been utilized

1218
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 3: more Dalton, Dalton Schultz, Juwan Johnson. Like, there's actually tight

1219
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 3: ends out there that you could pick up and plug

1220
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 3: into your starting lineup.

1221
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 2: So I have Brandon I you stashed on IR in

1222
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 2: a few leagues.

1223
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 1: He's like, Brandon, you get this point.

1224
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 2: He's like the towels in the guest bathroom, right, Like

1225
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 2: they're there and you can look at them, but you

1226
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 2: can't use them. Like, I don't know why. I really

1227
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 2: don't know why I've held on to him. Well, I

1228
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 2: think it's just because at this point I'm pot committed,

1229
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 2: Like it's been this long and I've just left him

1230
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:40,240
Speaker 2: in my IR spot.

1231
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: So it's like, well now.

1232
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 2: I just got to wait it out, right, Like I

1233
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 2: I've waited this long, Why would I cut him now?

1234
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 2: But like I'm like, I don't know, he's just there.

1235
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,800
Speaker 2: I probably should, but again, like I've done, I've waited

1236
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 2: so long now, right, Like I can't. I can't just

1237
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 2: drop him and then he comes back and then I'll

1238
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 2: be like then I'm like an idiot.

1239
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 3: Emberone week six was the targeted date in August.

1240
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 4: Remember, he was running routes.

1241
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you get buyed through week six. There's no buys

1242
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:10,399
Speaker 3: until what week four or five?

1243
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 2: Like this? That was easy. That was one hundred percent

1244
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 2: my thought.

1245
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 3: I trusting Kyle Shanahan.

1246
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: That was one hundred percent my thought process with that.

1247
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 3: And so same. I have him on a lot of teams,

1248
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:24,439
Speaker 3: unfortunately so many.

1249
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 2: So I mean it's good to have the IR spot, right,

1250
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 2: I mean, if I had to actually use a roster

1251
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 2: spot for him, like I would have cut him a

1252
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 2: while ago.

1253
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: But like because of the IR spot, I can.

1254
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 2: Like justify like, all right, well I'm not burning a

1255
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 2: spot for him, It's fine. But yeah, man, he's just

1256
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 2: he's just sitting there, just hanging on the rack in

1257
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 2: the guest bathroom, just like can't use it. It's just

1258
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 2: right there, just to look at. That's all it is.

1259
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 2: All right, there you go. That's that's enough of that.

1260
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 2: That's enough of us. That'll do it for this edition

1261
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 2: of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Stay happy, saved, hell

1262
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 2: they do good, and live well. Enjoy the week, everybody.

1263
00:57:55,160 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you again on Wednesday. Wow. Want