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Speaker 2: How did you?
Speaker 3: I'll explain everything, but you need to come with me.
Speaker 3: This part of the swamp isn't protected.
Speaker 4: Why don't you put down that knife first?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 3: There, Thomas, you're looking surprisingly well and this wasn't for you?
Speaker 2: Was for that?
Speaker 4: Are we going to a gathering meeting?
Speaker 3: Why would you think that?
Speaker 4: I don't know the symbol you carved those in the
Speaker 4: trees when you want to meet, don't you?
Speaker 3: That's one purpose for them, But that's not the primary one.
Speaker 4: So what is the primary one?
Speaker 3: Come on, we'll talk as we go.
Speaker 6: Okay, Hey, how did you know Thomas's name?
Speaker 3: I know who all of you are, Thomas, especially why
Speaker 3: the Houdini active pulled there?
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if you were impressed or annoy.
Speaker 3: Can I be both? Aren't you going to ask me
Speaker 3: who I am?
Speaker 4: We know who you are. You're a gathering leader from Virginia.
Speaker 3: Right, I guess we all have reputations preceding us. Then
Speaker 3: I assume you know why I'm here?
Speaker 6: Well, why don't you tell us, all right, here we go.
Speaker 4: Ah, where are you taking us?
Speaker 3: It's not so much about the destination as it is
Speaker 3: about getting on a bus. What I haven't had a
Speaker 3: chance to cover the whole swamp yet, and the bus
Speaker 3: stop was closer than the areas I have secured. The
Speaker 3: bus will be safe.
Speaker 4: Iron rank the favor of help. Iron buses are steeled,
Speaker 4: which is an iron alloy.
Speaker 3: M The next bus should be here in three minutes.
Speaker 3: We can talk freely on it.
Speaker 4: What do you mean you haven't covered the whole swamp yet.
Speaker 3: The ruin I carved it wasn't for community cation. It
Speaker 3: was for protection.
Speaker 4: That's why that bigfoot creature vanished.
Speaker 3: H can't come past the boundaries of the rooms.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 3: I can keep it out of areas, but I can't
Speaker 3: keep it in. So be careful if you choose to
Speaker 3: come back.
Speaker 6: So you're saying it's not gone for good.
Speaker 3: No, just vanish to the other side for now. That's
Speaker 3: why I'm here. A lot of things are not where
Speaker 3: they should be.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've figured that out.
Speaker 8: On our own.
Speaker 3: Does that also mean you figured out what's causing it?
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, we know that something is off balance.
Speaker 3: You think things are not just off balance, Jeremy. They
Speaker 3: are broken.
Speaker 2: Because of you.
Speaker 5: Me.
Speaker 4: What did I do? I was trapped for forty years?
Speaker 3: Exactly. You should never have come back out.
Speaker 4: What do you mean he shouldn't have come back.
Speaker 3: Thomas was in there for a reason and he should
Speaker 3: have stayed there.
Speaker 4: How dare you say that?
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, listen, don't be mad at me. I'm just
Speaker 3: the messenger.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, and who exactly is the source.
Speaker 3: Of this message the other side?
Speaker 9: Oh cool, So you've got like a buddy over there
Speaker 9: or something.
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to come here and mess up your life, Jeremy, No.
Speaker 4: You're just coming to murder my father.
Speaker 10: Again.
Speaker 3: That wasn't me, That wasn't any member of the gathering,
Speaker 3: or even a member back then.
Speaker 6: Oh sure there was an offshoot. Yeah, we've heard that
Speaker 6: all before. Then.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm right. You have no reason to take
Speaker 3: your anger out on me.
Speaker 11: Given that I'm the only one here who's actually the
Speaker 11: victim of an attempted murder.
Speaker 4: I think I could be angry at whoever I want.
Speaker 3: That's fair, And I know this doesn't mean anything to you.
Speaker 3: I wasn't even alive when you were pushed into the
Speaker 3: liminal but I am sorry for what happened to you.
Speaker 3: It wasn't right not to mention it didn't even work.
Speaker 3: The liminal mm hmm, that's what we call it. Where
Speaker 3: Thomas was and your solution.
Speaker 4: Is just a thrown back again.
Speaker 3: Do you know exactly what you're dealing with here?
Speaker 6: We have some idea, yeah, then.
Speaker 3: You know who's on the other side, what that place is.
Speaker 3: Or you have a bunch of half baked theories but
Speaker 3: not enough solid proof to connect all the dots.
Speaker 12: Well, we've been thinking maybe it's the Fay realm okay,
Speaker 12: and considering the way you reacted to my iron assumption.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so you're not totally clueless.
Speaker 4: So that is what's doing this.
Speaker 3: The Fay Court, the Hidden People, the Secret Commonwealth, whatever
Speaker 3: you want to call it, non human beings who reign
Speaker 3: over a kingdom that lays just beyond a liminal space,
Speaker 3: who could destroy all of us with ease if they
Speaker 3: so chose.
Speaker 12: If that were true, wouldn't they have done it by now?
Speaker 12: I mean it certainly feels like they've been trying at
Speaker 12: least here.
Speaker 3: They made a deal centuries ago. What do you We
Speaker 3: don't bother them, They don't bother us. Everybody stays happy
Speaker 3: and ignorant.
Speaker 4: And we have to give them something like a human life.
Speaker 3: It's different for each doorway here, Virginia, Muda, Mattlock, the
Speaker 3: Dragon's triangle places where the veil between worlds is thinnest,
Speaker 3: where the other side is accessible. There has to be
Speaker 3: something between here and there, hence the liminal where you
Speaker 3: were trapped with someone else. I'm assuming how did you
Speaker 3: know that it's similar in Virginia. Well, the need for
Speaker 3: two souls is at least two souls, one that has
Speaker 3: to be new every forty years. That's my understanding of
Speaker 3: how Bridgewater works.
Speaker 12: And he wasn't willing, so so things have been hinky
Speaker 12: here for a while.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's not a deal breaker for the Fay realm,
Speaker 3: the willingness bit, but having two residents of the liminal
Speaker 3: that's non negotiable. It keeps things nice and closed.
Speaker 4: So without me, the.
Speaker 3: Gates are wide open for anyone to waltz into the
Speaker 3: kingdom or out of it.
Speaker 4: Okay, so how do we close it?
Speaker 3: We follow the terms of the deal.
Speaker 11: Even if I went back in Alden wouldn't be able
Speaker 11: to come out, or we'd be stuck with the same problem.
Speaker 3: I take it Alden as the other person in there. No,
Speaker 3: they wouldn't be able to come out either.
Speaker 12: Okay, well that's a mood point. Because you are not
Speaker 12: going back in there.
Speaker 3: Someone has to or people are going to die.
Speaker 4: Whoa, whoa. We do not know that you think.
Speaker 3: You would have been able to defend yourselves against that beast.
Speaker 3: That's not your storybook, sasquash Jeremy. We've got similar creatures
Speaker 3: in the South, bear like things that can stand on
Speaker 3: two legs, take down trees. There's the Faky monster, the
Speaker 3: Ozak Howler.
Speaker 12: And wait wait, the faky monster that's Arkansas, right, and
Speaker 12: it kills livestock.
Speaker 6: Right, then, maybe what we just saw is the thing
Speaker 6: that killed the cows.
Speaker 3: That's exactly my point. These monsters are not gonna stop
Speaker 3: at a visceray and cows, which is why we need
Speaker 3: to fix this.
Speaker 11: Doesn't have to be me though, right, Whatever deal exists
Speaker 11: doesn't stipulate a specific person.
Speaker 3: No, it doesn't have to be you. But to be
Speaker 3: really honest, I don't know who else would willingly go
Speaker 3: in there.
Speaker 4: Why would we trust her on this?
Speaker 13: Why would we trust you on this? We don't even
Speaker 13: know you. And the gathering hasn't exactly been.
Speaker 3: Good to us. I have no reason to lie to you.
Speaker 13: Even if you are telling the truth, that doesn't mean
Speaker 13: that there's not something else we can do. Okay, you
Speaker 13: got rid of that beast, the howler thing, whatever, just
Speaker 13: very easily. You just teach us how to do that,
Speaker 13: and we can take care of this area.
Speaker 3: It doesn't work like that. I told you I can
Speaker 3: keep things out by creating a protective boundary, but I
Speaker 3: can't keep anything in. They'd be free to rome elsewhere.
Speaker 4: Can we kill them?
Speaker 12: They are flesh and blood, presumably right, so we figure
Speaker 12: out how we can take them down.
Speaker 3: The monsters coming from the other side are not your
Speaker 3: biggest problem.
Speaker 9: I'd say they're pretty urgent concern.
Speaker 3: If the terms of the deal aren't honored, the Fae
Speaker 3: Realm won't stick to its side of the veil.
Speaker 9: Mean what, we're gonna send more monsters through?
Speaker 4: What does that mean?
Speaker 3: They won't have to The boundary will collapse, the two
Speaker 3: worlds bleeding into one another, causing problems we can't even imagine.
Speaker 3: The deal must be honored.
Speaker 9: It sounds like we need to renegotiate this deal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think you really comprehend what we're dealing
Speaker 3: with here, Jeremy. This is old magic. It's not something
Speaker 3: that can be altered or undone. It's like gravity. We
Speaker 3: have to bend to it.
Speaker 4: Humans have found plenty of ways to defy gravity.
Speaker 3: But we always have to come back down always.
Speaker 4: And do you want to chime in here?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Dad, I think she's right. We may not have a choice, esays,
Speaker 4: what is happening here.
Speaker 13: We met her five minutes ago, and you're just taking
Speaker 13: everything she says at face value.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that we should just give up, but
Speaker 4: thank you.
Speaker 6: No, Jeremy's right, we don't have any reason to trust you.
Speaker 6: Your predecessor was slippery at best and manipulative at worst.
Speaker 6: I've known her a lot longer. So until you have
Speaker 6: proof of what you're saying, and I'm not even sure
Speaker 6: what that proof would look like, we're going to keep
Speaker 6: doing what we've been doing and figure things out the old.
Speaker 3: Fashioned way, grasping for straws in the darkness.
Speaker 4: Investigate.
Speaker 3: You know what, Fine, I can't force any of you
Speaker 3: to do anything. We don't know how disastrous that is,
Speaker 3: So go ahead, do your own investigating, but do it
Speaker 3: quickly and when you finally figure out that I'm telling
Speaker 3: the truth, come and find me, all right?
Speaker 14: All right?
Speaker 6: So have you moved into Celeste house too? Huh? Stepped
Speaker 6: into her whole life.
Speaker 3: I'm not her permanent replacement. Besides, I wanted to keep
Speaker 3: an eye on things, so I'm staying in Freetown Forest.
Speaker 3: That safe, I'm protected, all right. Listen, follow the ruins
Speaker 3: from the East Hiking Path and you will find me.
Speaker 4: I don't think we're gonna need to, but thanks.
Speaker 3: Remember, don't take too long.
Speaker 12: Hey, it's Jeremy, Jeremy Bradshaw, the cool Professor.
Speaker 9: Hi.
Speaker 12: I know it's only been a few days and I
Speaker 12: don't have any really important sightings to tell you about,
Speaker 12: although I do actually want to tell you about the
Speaker 12: Bigfoot situation at some point, but that's not why call.
Speaker 12: I'm calling because a woman named Peyton Blake showed up
Speaker 12: up here. She's a gathering leader from Virginia, and I
Speaker 12: basically just wanted to know if you think she's someone
Speaker 12: I can trust or.
Speaker 4: Not, if you have any inpo on her. Sorry, I
Speaker 4: know that's a bit weird, but.
Speaker 12: Yeah, anything that you could tell me would be helpful,
Speaker 12: or anything any of the other legend trippers might know
Speaker 12: anything anyone knows would would be helpful, So you can
Speaker 12: just you know, text me back or call me back
Speaker 12: or whatever, any any mode of communication. And yeah, that's it, Okay,
Speaker 12: thank you.
Speaker 4: I talked about whatever later, dork. Hey, who was that?
Speaker 12: Oh that was that legend tripper that I met? I
Speaker 12: was just curious if she had any information about that
Speaker 12: about Peyton.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that was an interesting text to get yesterday.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 12: Well, you know, I just thought that I should loop
Speaker 12: you and Olivia in on the newest, weirdest developments.
Speaker 2: But you're okay, you know, after nearly getting ripped apart
Speaker 2: by us Sasqua.
Speaker 4: I think so.
Speaker 12: Yeah, but I've decided to call it a hackamack howler.
Speaker 4: Because it sounds more academic.
Speaker 9: I am really not looking forward to lecturing.
Speaker 12: Today, but I'm not sure what to do, because apparently
Speaker 12: life doesn't stop just because evil fairies are trying to
Speaker 12: kill your dad.
Speaker 4: Feels like a reason to take a sick day, though.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 12: Unfortunately, I think if I take any more of those,
Speaker 12: I'm going to lose the health insurance it helps me
Speaker 12: after these monster attacks.
Speaker 4: I don't know. Do you want to do?
Speaker 8: You want to help me go over the topics for today.
Speaker 2: This is so fucked.
Speaker 6: Eloquent as always lived.
Speaker 14: Well, I don't know what else I'm supposed to say.
Speaker 14: I mean, if even half of what Peyton told you
Speaker 14: was real, then well, first of all, I'm moving the
Speaker 14: moment I graduate.
Speaker 6: Okay, don't joke about that.
Speaker 14: I'm not joking. It's one thing to grow up hearing
Speaker 14: stories about pug Wedges and windogows, but now there's a
Speaker 14: whole other dimension that's one badly executed ritual away from
Speaker 14: collapsing into our world and unleashing all sorts of hell, no,
Speaker 14: thank you.
Speaker 4: That is not going to happen.
Speaker 11: Okay, we are going to figure out how to stop
Speaker 11: all of this for good.
Speaker 2: How new, Grandpa.
Speaker 14: We're talking about some seriously ancient forces here, and we
Speaker 14: can't be the only people who've wanted to fight back
Speaker 14: against them before. I mean, what if the deal that's
Speaker 14: been made is the best possible version of a win.
Speaker 6: We're not gonna think like that. Okay, We're gonna figure
Speaker 6: out what the fey realm wants, what they can do,
Speaker 6: and how they can be beat.
Speaker 3: Oh sure, yes, super easy stuff.
Speaker 6: Well I didn't say it was gonna be easy, but
Speaker 6: we don't have any other choice.
Speaker 14: All right, what do you need me to do?
Speaker 6: You still want to help with all this?
Speaker 14: Do I want to prevent the evil fairy apocalypse?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be nice.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 6: I prefer you stayed inside as much as possible, because
Speaker 6: I don't like how close that dog got to you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you and me both?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: What needs doing?
Speaker 4: Ah?
Speaker 6: Well, let's see. Jeremy's chasing down some information on the
Speaker 6: fay realm. Vivian's working on some kind of map. I
Speaker 6: have no idea.
Speaker 14: He's using all the different reported sightings to try and
Speaker 14: track creature's movements.
Speaker 6: Fantastic, And I'm gonna go and see if Doc Edward's
Speaker 6: got any think from his lab examination of the cow.
Speaker 4: So I could use a hand.
Speaker 11: Okay, I think we need to find out more about
Speaker 11: what happened to Olden.
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, sure, I can help you with that.
Speaker 6: All right, all right, well, I'll be back in a bit.
Speaker 6: Call me if the house starts to shake again.
Speaker 2: Oh haha, wait, what do you mean again? H what
Speaker 2: happened now?
Speaker 6: I'll explain later. I'm sure he'll be fine.
Speaker 4: Nanna, we'll be fine, Olivia.
Speaker 14: You know, the more you both say that less I think.
Speaker 9: You believe it.
Speaker 4: I don't know what else to say. I have to
Speaker 4: believe it will all be okay.
Speaker 14: Right, right, of course, I'm sure it will be. And
Speaker 14: I'm surprised you didn't want to help Jeremy with his research.
Speaker 14: I'm sure he'd love to spend more.
Speaker 5: Time with you.
Speaker 11: It wasn't really something I could help with. He had
Speaker 11: to go to work anyway, and he's calling up an
Speaker 11: old friend from Oxford. Did you know that he studied.
Speaker 4: There for a semester. I didn't.
Speaker 14: I mean I didn't really know him all that well,
Speaker 14: we only met, like just got a few weeks ago.
Speaker 4: Right of course, you two didn't even know each other existed. Yeah,
Speaker 4: how do you feel Anne? Did you forget mom? Shelly?
Speaker 2: I'd take it Anne's out.
Speaker 11: Yes, yes, you just missed her, but I'm sure she'd
Speaker 11: be right back. We could call her on her cellular phone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, probably better. She's not here. Okay, hey, live,
Speaker 2: would you mind giving us a minute?
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, sure, I'll just take my laptop to the
Speaker 14: guest room and start doing that research.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I would say that I'm sorry for just
Speaker 2: dropping by unexpectedly, but.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess I take the price for that. Huh.
Speaker 11: Olivia told me she explained everything to you, or tried
Speaker 11: to at least, but that she needed some time. I
Speaker 11: would have come to see you if I know.
Speaker 2: It's fine to be honest, I still need time. But
Speaker 2: I was driving to work and was about to pass
Speaker 2: the turn to my mom's house, and before I knew it,
Speaker 2: I was driving over here. And I wasn't even planning
Speaker 2: on coming in until I saw my mom's carpool away.
Speaker 4: I know she really wants to talk to you. Do
Speaker 4: you want to sit or I can make you some coffee?
Speaker 4: I barely understand. And the machine it's got these weird
Speaker 4: plastic pods.
Speaker 2: But I'm sure I don't know how long I can stay. Right,
Speaker 2: You've really just been gone for forty years and just
Speaker 2: blinked out of and back into existence.
Speaker 4: Not exactly, I was somewhere all this time.
Speaker 2: Right right, Yes, it was some magical in between voice.
Speaker 4: It sounds crazy, I know.
Speaker 2: Well I don't think that you do. You don't even
Speaker 2: look old enough to be the father to a teenager,
Speaker 2: let alone, you know.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I know freak me out too, that you're really yeah, yeah,
Speaker 10: I'm really your dad and you have to know, Shelley,
Speaker 10: I never wanted to leave you or Jeremy and and I.
Speaker 4: We had a plan. We were going to be a family.
Speaker 2: But then you got sucked into some other dementia.
Speaker 11: I know it sounds about as believable as I'm going
Speaker 11: out for cigarettes.
Speaker 4: I'll be right back.
Speaker 2: But yeah, at least it's not cliche.
Speaker 4: At least there's that, Shelley, why are you here?
Speaker 8: Hey?
Speaker 2: It was Olivia researching, by the way. When she left
Speaker 2: this morning, she said, something happened.
Speaker 11: Oh, we met someone who knows a lot more than
Speaker 11: we do.
Speaker 4: And well, the.
Speaker 2: Situation is, it's it's complicated.
Speaker 4: There was a boy with me in that other place.
Speaker 4: It was also trapped in Olivia.
Speaker 11: She's helping me to try to find out more about
Speaker 11: him so that maybe we can help him.
Speaker 2: Is another.
Speaker 11: A boy from a long time ago.
Speaker 2: So this thing, whatever it is, it does take children.
Speaker 11: Yes, I don't know if that's the preferred sacrifice.
Speaker 2: What sacrifice.
Speaker 11: There's some sort of balance sheet. That other place needs
Speaker 11: two people at all times. I ended up there by mistake.
Speaker 11: I think I think maybe it wanted Jeremy back then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my mom did mention something about him. Going missing one.
Speaker 11: We got him back, just like you got your boy back.
Speaker 11: He's not in danger anymore.
Speaker 2: We'll forgive me if I don't take you at your
Speaker 2: word that I'm keeping him at his grandparents for the
Speaker 2: foreseeable future, his other grandparents.
Speaker 11: I'd like to meet him someday, if that's okay.
Speaker 2: I don't think so, I mean, at least not. You know,
Speaker 2: I honestly have no idea. What's okay?
Speaker 3: You know I don't know you.
Speaker 2: I know no, I mean, I don't even have stories
Speaker 2: about you. Mom did not tell me anything. She never
Speaker 2: talked about you.
Speaker 4: I never would have told her to do that.
Speaker 2: Well, Anne Becker does whatever it is she wants, and
Speaker 2: for some reason, she didn't want me to know that
Speaker 2: you were my dad.
Speaker 4: I still am.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: You don't just get to claim that you've been gone
Speaker 2: forty years and we never I mean, we never met,
Speaker 2: and you've never been a father to me.
Speaker 4: You're right, but I.
Speaker 11: I thought about you every single day. I understand that
Speaker 11: you're angry, I do, and confused and frustrated.
Speaker 4: I am too.
Speaker 11: I was just figuring out how to be a dad,
Speaker 11: and then I was ripped away from it, from the
Speaker 11: chance to watch Jeremy grow up, the chance to meet you,
Speaker 11: But that doesn't mean being a father was ripped out
Speaker 11: of me. Because there was Alden, that other kid. She
Speaker 11: needed me, and I did figure it out for him.
Speaker 11: So in the times when I let myself imagine what
Speaker 11: it would be like to come back, I actually felt prepared.
Speaker 11: I mean proud of who I'd become, the kind of
Speaker 11: father I was turning into. So to come back and
Speaker 11: find that my son has well passed the point of
Speaker 11: meeting a parent and my daughter doesn't want any kind
Speaker 11: of father at all, I feel untethered.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure Jeremy is thrilled to have you back.
Speaker 2: He remembers you growing up. You could tell he lost you.
Speaker 2: He was carrying that hole with him everywhere, and.
Speaker 4: It seems like he turned into a good man in
Speaker 4: spite of it. I don't know.
Speaker 11: I'm still getting to know him, but he seems smart,
Speaker 11: protective of the people in his life.
Speaker 4: Like me. I'm feeling a bit like a fifth wheel,
Speaker 4: like he doesn't need anything returned to him. Then there's you.
Speaker 4: I really don't know you, but I can tell you're
Speaker 4: strong and you've raised an amazing daughter.
Speaker 11: I'm glad you didn't grow up like Jeremy, feeling like
Speaker 11: a part of you was missing.
Speaker 4: But I still want to belong to you if you'd
Speaker 4: ever had me.
Speaker 2: Of course, I felt like something was missing.
Speaker 5: I just.
Speaker 2: I didn't know what exactly to miss.
Speaker 4: Well, whatever it is, you don't have to miss it anymore.
Speaker 4: I'm here now, and you're I mean, you're.
Speaker 2: Are you real? You know you're not a ghost or
Speaker 2: a I don't even know what to ask you.
Speaker 4: I'm real, and I'm I don't know how many of
Speaker 4: this works.
Speaker 11: But if I'll live another fifty years, or if my
Speaker 11: body just looks young and really I'm in my seventies,
Speaker 11: I have no idea what my life would even look
Speaker 11: like here in twenty twenty a year. That still sounds
Speaker 11: made up in my ears. But I know that all
Speaker 11: these questions aren't really important. The only question that matters
Speaker 11: to me is if you'll allow me to get to
Speaker 11: know you.
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't know, And this is all still so.
Speaker 4: I understand.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not saying no, I just I wanted
Speaker 2: to come over here today to try and make it
Speaker 2: make sense, you know, as much sense as it could.
Speaker 4: How's that going?
Speaker 9: Not great?
Speaker 5: I bet.
Speaker 2: I've always had a really hard time with the paranormal stuff.
Speaker 2: You know, my teenage rebellion was becoming as pragmatic and
Speaker 2: straight edged as.
Speaker 4: Possible a model teenager, were you.
Speaker 2: Well, no, I would not say that. I was still
Speaker 2: pretty awful with the mootiness and shouting matches and awful boyfriends.
Speaker 11: God, you and Jeremy never, oh God, no, no, no,
Speaker 11: Jesus Christ, I would have been.
Speaker 2: Look, I'm barely registering that I have my father who
Speaker 2: is alive. I think the question of a half brother
Speaker 2: is just going to have to sit on the back
Speaker 2: burner for a minute.
Speaker 4: Okay, understandable, But no.
Speaker 2: No, Jeremy and I didn't overlap in school much. I
Speaker 2: have no idea what kind of teenager he was at home.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry I missed it all.
Speaker 2: I really should get going to work.
Speaker 4: Wait, yeah, thank you, you know for coming by. Maybe
Speaker 4: we could continue the conversation at some point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe, Oh God, what is it, I have your nose?
Speaker 2: Jeremy doesn't, but I do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you do.
Speaker 2: Tell Olivia's here at home, so.
Speaker 4: Now let go. I have no idea, but thank you
Speaker 4: for talking to her, for trying.
Speaker 14: I didn't mean to overhear well, actually, I was totally
Speaker 14: eavesdropping when she asked if you were real you were
Speaker 14: talking around something.
Speaker 4: Not a lot gets past you.
Speaker 2: Huh, you're not sure you're going to stay.
Speaker 4: If I have anything to say about it, I will.
Speaker 11: I'll get Alden out, I'll shut down the fay realm,
Speaker 11: I'll live my life.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 11: But I don't know Jeremy's worried something's happening to me,
Speaker 11: or that the liminal might take me back?
Speaker 2: Is that something you're worried about?
Speaker 11: Peyton sent that beast back to the other side with
Speaker 11: a simple carving. What's to say that same thing couldn't
Speaker 11: happen to me or to anyone that it was as
Speaker 11: easy as drawing a symbol somewhere.
Speaker 3: But you don't belong there.
Speaker 14: That sasquatch was from the other side, so that room
Speaker 14: sent it back. You're not from the liminal.
Speaker 11: I've spent more years there than I did here. Maybe
Speaker 11: it sees me as part of it, and I keep
Speaker 11: I keep feeling sick or tired, dizzy. That's what makes
Speaker 11: me wonder if I'm not actually as young as I appear.
Speaker 14: Do you feel like you're in a seventy year old's body?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 11: But that doesn't change the fact that I'm sitting here
Speaker 11: with my twenty two year old granddaughter. Oh, I just
Speaker 11: realized I'm dumping all of my problems on I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: You're a kid. You shouldn't have to listen to the
Speaker 4: adults in your life worry like this.
Speaker 14: Okay, first of all, I'm not a kid, and second
Speaker 14: of all, I know we're genetically a few generations apart,
Speaker 14: but I mean the reality of it just feels like
Speaker 14: we're cousins or something.
Speaker 4: You don't feel weird about listening to all your grandpa's fears.
Speaker 14: Oh, I feel weird about literally everything that's happening in
Speaker 14: my life right now. But that doesn't have to be
Speaker 14: a bad thing.
Speaker 2: Besides, who else are you going to talk to?
Speaker 14: You know, like four people, and one of them is
Speaker 14: your long lost love and another is your son.
Speaker 4: You might be right. I just don't want to worry them.
Speaker 4: I know, not that I want to worry you.
Speaker 14: No, I know it's okay, Like, you don't have to explain,
Speaker 14: And after all, we don't really know each other, do we.
Speaker 14: With Nana, you have this whole complicated history, and you
Speaker 14: knew my mom existed. You didn't know to expect me
Speaker 14: and with Jeremy.
Speaker 11: I don't know how to talk to Jeremy. He's still
Speaker 11: a little boy in my mind. So sometimes when I
Speaker 11: look at him now, I have to remind myself that
Speaker 11: he's the same person, not just some man i've met.
Speaker 4: But there's other times.
Speaker 11: Where I feel like I'm arguing with him like I
Speaker 11: would have if I'd been around when he was growing up.
Speaker 14: Well, for what it's worth, I think Jeremy does need you.
Speaker 2: You're not a fifth wheel.
Speaker 4: It's kind of you to say.
Speaker 2: I mean it.
Speaker 14: Look, I may not know Jeremy well, but I've gotten
Speaker 14: to know Vippen a bit, and I think he might
Speaker 14: be the person who knows Jeremy.
Speaker 4: Best, isn't he Jeremy's ta.
Speaker 14: Yeah exactly. They've been working together for a few years,
Speaker 14: and Vippen called him Professor Bradshaw until like, I don't
Speaker 14: know a week ago, but I think Vippen is the
Speaker 14: closest thing that Jeremy has to a best friend.
Speaker 4: Really, that's what I mean.
Speaker 14: He's not. I just don't know how full his life is,
Speaker 14: or how full it was before all of this happened.
Speaker 14: Vippen said that Jeremy gave him a whole speech about
Speaker 14: not turning out like him, telling Vippen to make sure
Speaker 14: he had a life outside of work and all that.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure that this makes me feel better or worse.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 14: Sorry, I'm not exactly the best at PEP talks.
Speaker 4: You know what, I think you're doing just fine?
Speaker 12: Hello, Sophie, it's Jeremy Bradshaw. I know it's been forever, Jeremy.
Speaker 5: Good lord. I didn't think i'd ever hear from you again.
Speaker 12: Oh come on, well, I'm sorry. I know I'm terrible
Speaker 12: at keeping in touch.
Speaker 5: It goes both ways. I imagine you've been quite busy.
Speaker 5: You're back in the Bridgewater Triangle.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I've been back for a while.
Speaker 5: Must have your hands full with all sorts of speaks.
Speaker 9: No less than I'm sure you have in Pluckley.
Speaker 4: You're still there.
Speaker 5: I'm actually back at Oxford, if you can believe it.
Speaker 9: What are you going for another degree?
Speaker 5: Handing them out? In fact, I'm a professor like you.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, an Oxford professor. Wow.
Speaker 12: Okay, well, I guess you've reached the apex for anyone
Speaker 12: in our discipline.
Speaker 4: Congrats.
Speaker 5: I don't get me wrong, I'm still hoping to someday
Speaker 5: find fame and fortune as the first person to provide
Speaker 5: definitive proof of the paranormal. But twelve years in the
Speaker 5: most haunted village in Britain and I didn't see a
Speaker 5: single ghost.
Speaker 4: Sorry, no, you're not.
Speaker 5: You always knew none of it was real.
Speaker 9: What am I hearing? Has Sophie Burton become a skeptic?
Speaker 5: I'm skirting dangerously close.
Speaker 4: Well, I guess time does funny things to all of us.
Speaker 5: Don't tell me that you believe.
Speaker 12: No, no, but I would say that I am. I
Speaker 12: am working on keeping an open mind.
Speaker 5: I'm impressed. Is that why you're calling me up out
Speaker 5: of the blue? You need me to give you my
Speaker 5: old ghosts a real shpiel?
Speaker 4: Uh, not exactly.
Speaker 12: I've actually been trying to expand my expertise, hence the
Speaker 12: open mind, and I'm working on something that's a bit
Speaker 12: outside of my comfort zone. Okay, I'm trying to write
Speaker 12: a lecture that covers the Fay realm. And I realized
Speaker 12: that I don't actually really know much beyond the basics
Speaker 12: because it's never really been much of a thing in Bridgewater,
Speaker 12: so I haven't even bothered before.
Speaker 5: What's making you want to bother now just curiosity. Well,
Speaker 5: you certainly called the right person. We're chocolate block for
Speaker 5: the fath o here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I was hoping.
Speaker 5: What exactly do you want to know? It's fairly expensive.
Speaker 12: Well, that's why I wanted to talk to an expert
Speaker 12: directly instead of just diving into my books.
Speaker 5: Is there a particular region or myth origin you're looking at?
Speaker 9: I guess the biggest question is friend or foe.
Speaker 12: Yeah. So I feel like the popular cultural representation is
Speaker 12: fairly positive overall, tinker Bell and the like, But I
Speaker 12: know there's a lot of darker versions of fay Realm.
Speaker 12: More so, I'd love to know which side.
Speaker 4: To come down on.
Speaker 5: Well, there's really not one definitive answer to that question.
Speaker 5: For as long as there have been fay Realm legends,
Speaker 5: there's been good and bad.
Speaker 4: But there is a distinction.
Speaker 9: I mean, there are different there are different groups, right.
Speaker 5: They can be In Scottish law, there's the Sealy Court
Speaker 5: and Uncaly Court. Both are fay courts, so therefore dangerous.
Speaker 5: But the Sely won't go out of their way to
Speaker 5: hurt humans, but the Uncily Court will. There are related
Speaker 5: to a whole manner of evil creatures over here, boggots,
Speaker 5: habby lovers, creatures of the devil. Essentially, what do the
Speaker 5: Fay want? Well, just general mischief, not the cute fun
Speaker 5: kind mind, more of the beating and possessing variety you mentioned.
Speaker 9: The courts are those physical courts.
Speaker 5: Some times there's a lot of law around fairy lands.
Speaker 5: Sometimes they're called other worlds or underworlds, even herd fairy kingdom.
Speaker 5: And sometimes they're a physical place, sometimes just a ritual
Speaker 5: or the very act of doing magic.
Speaker 12: Okay, So if they are physical places, presumably human beings
Speaker 12: could enter into one of these lands, and.
Speaker 5: There aren't many legends that explore that idea plenty of
Speaker 5: fiction and films, but original myth is mostly the Fay
Speaker 5: courts coming over to the human realm.
Speaker 9: How about making deals with humans?
Speaker 5: Oh? Yes, Fay contracts very tricky things. Their story is
Speaker 5: you should never accept a gift from a theory, especially food,
Speaker 5: never get into debt with them, never make any promises,
Speaker 5: and don't even give them your name in the case
Speaker 5: of creatures like.
Speaker 9: So basically avoid them at all casts exactly.
Speaker 12: Okay, So hypothetically, what if there is an existing contract,
Speaker 12: can you break it?
Speaker 5: I have absolutely no idea. Are you in law school? Now?
Speaker 5: Is your class on fairy contract law?
Speaker 9: I'm just trying to create a full picture.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I've given a few lectures on the
Speaker 5: famous and there's so much to cover. It's honestly best
Speaker 5: to keep things surface level.
Speaker 12: If I were you, Okay, sure, But let's say I
Speaker 12: was doing fairy contract law.
Speaker 4: What would I teach my students to never.
Speaker 5: Enter a contract with a fairy no matter what. But
Speaker 5: if they had, they aren't going to let a contract
Speaker 5: be broken. The only way I could see out of
Speaker 5: it would be if you had something on the fay
Speaker 5: court that could neutralize it. In a lot of law,
Speaker 5: they hate being in debt. If there was a mutual
Speaker 5: debt that could be exploited, maybe the slate would be
Speaker 5: wiped clean. But more likely, you just have a very
Speaker 5: angry and violent spirit after you.
Speaker 9: Okay, is there a way to kill them?
Speaker 5: Jeremy? What is this really about?
Speaker 12: If I figure it out, I promise I will tell you, Jeremy,
Speaker 12: just please, whatever you can tell me about ways to
Speaker 12: stop them or even just ward them off.
Speaker 4: I really appreciate it.
Speaker 9: Just just humor me here.
Speaker 5: It really depends on the type you're dealing with. There's
Speaker 5: all sorts of things, turning your clothes inside out. Avoiding
Speaker 5: fairy circles, of course, but circles of all kinds can
Speaker 5: be problematic. A rooster's crow or church bells have been
Speaker 5: said to scare them away. I can send you a
Speaker 5: list of all the methods I'm aware of, if you like,
Speaker 5: that would be amazing.
Speaker 4: Selfie, Thank you. Thanks, You've already been a huge help.
Speaker 5: Sure you'll bring me back if you find yourself in
Speaker 5: over your head.
Speaker 4: That's why I caught you in the first place.
Speaker 5: Are you This sounds ridiculous? Are you okay?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 12: I I think I've got.
Speaker 4: It all under control.
Speaker 5: Of course, you've got it under control. I always do.
Speaker 4: Wow. Fuck, I know. Are you okay? My whole body
Speaker 4: is sore, but I am alive.
Speaker 7: I cannot believe I turned down your offer to join you.
Speaker 4: Next time I go monster hunting, I'll insist.
Speaker 7: I appreciate that. Hey, thanks for meeting me here. By
Speaker 7: the way, I was going to suggest hawk a mocks.
Speaker 12: But yeah, Well, weirdly, Freetown Forest feel safer at the moment,
Speaker 12: even if Peyton is hiding around.
Speaker 7: Here somewhere I'm sorry again for not being able to
Speaker 7: help with her.
Speaker 12: No, No, it was fine. It was a long shot.
Speaker 12: I just wish I knew if I could trust her.
Speaker 12: Names are really fucked up here. Things are certainly fucked
Speaker 12: up here. There is just a lot at stake for me.
Speaker 12: I don't even know how to.
Speaker 4: I don't know how to protect myself from a sasquatch.
Speaker 3: Jeremy, it sounds like it was pretty terrifying.
Speaker 12: Yeah, and if Peyton hadn't shown up, I probably would
Speaker 12: be dead.
Speaker 4: My dad was right. I'm an academic. I'm not the
Speaker 4: person who fights monsters. Here.
Speaker 7: Let me show you something what I'm not poisonous. I
Speaker 7: promise it'll be easier if I just guide your hand.
Speaker 4: Trust me.
Speaker 7: Okay, so move your hand in a bee like this,
Speaker 7: and then moved to center and bring it all the
Speaker 7: way down. Okay, now you do it.
Speaker 2: Okay, I know it feels goofy.
Speaker 7: Let's try it all right, the.
Speaker 4: Center down, and I'm supposed to do what exactly?
Speaker 7: Yeah, well, it's supposed to banish monsters or trap them
Speaker 7: or something. Honestly, I haven't had the opportunity to try,
Speaker 7: but see his keep running into them for real?
Speaker 4: Well, that'll be an experiment for next time.
Speaker 7: Yeah, report back to me. I'm dying to know.
Speaker 4: If it works.
Speaker 7: Where'd you learn that there was this other legend tripper
Speaker 7: a while back? I met her at some conference or other.
Speaker 4: There are legend tripper conferences.
Speaker 7: You're telling me you haven't been to anything like that.
Speaker 12: No, no, no, of course I've been to paranormal conventions
Speaker 12: and academic conferences. I just haven't met a whole lot
Speaker 12: of uh, monster hunters in one place.
Speaker 7: Okay, well, maybe conference was putting a bit strongly, but
Speaker 7: these communities are all tied in together, and there are
Speaker 7: meetups from time to time. I as she picked it up
Speaker 7: from some guy in Norway.
Speaker 4: So it's some kind of old Norse room.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so she said it translates to protection. I think,
Speaker 7: now maybe you know how to fight monsters.
Speaker 4: Well, here's hoping that I never have to use it.
Speaker 7: Come on, you're telling me there's not even a little
Speaker 7: part of you that's dying to see something else.
Speaker 4: It was genuinely, really frightening. I would not. Oh shit, yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: maybe right, of.
Speaker 7: Course I am. I mean, after all this time studying
Speaker 7: and teaching all of this stuff for years, you actually
Speaker 7: get to witness it. I'd be fucking jealous if it
Speaker 7: wasn't so cool.
Speaker 12: Yeah, well, you keep hanging out in these forests and
Speaker 12: swamps and you might see something yourself soon.
Speaker 7: Maybe I just need to hang out with you more.
Speaker 4: Well, I guess it's worth a shop.
Speaker 7: Here's the spirit.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: I was expecting to see you, but not so soon.
Speaker 4: I don't think we really got to finish our conversation earlier.
Speaker 3: And what conversation was that?
Speaker 4: The one about how I broke everything.
Speaker 3: I seem to remember your son having quite a lot
Speaker 3: to say about that subject.
Speaker 4: It's going to get much worse very quickly.
Speaker 5: Isn't it.
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: I believe so.
Speaker 11: And you think I'm the only one who can fix it,
Speaker 11: not the only one, just the right one.
Speaker 4: What would I have to do?
Speaker 1: This episode of Bridgewater was written by Lauren Shippen and
Speaker 1: directed by Brendan Patrick Hughes Assistant director Sarah Kleine. Sound
Speaker 1: designed by Vincent de Johnny Rima El Kali, Josh Thain,
Speaker 1: and Trevor Young, with music by Chad Lawson. Starring Misha
Speaker 1: Collins as Jeremy Bradshaw, Melissa Ponzio as Anne Becker, Alan
Speaker 1: Tudick as Thomas Bradshaw, Karen Sony as Vipen Kurana, Sabra
Speaker 1: May as Olivia Hoskins, Cheryl Umanya as Officer Bautista, Will
Speaker 1: Wheaton as Captain Haddock, Tricia Helfer as the Legend Tripper,
Speaker 1: Stephen Guarino as Doctor Edwards nand Mi Siu Dambe as
Speaker 1: Peyton Blake, Hillary Burton Morgan as Shelley Hoskins, Nicky McCauley
Speaker 1: as Celeste, and Victoria Grace as Katie Franks, with additional
Speaker 1: voice acting by Greta Gould, Shelby Young, Adam o'byrn Monte, Markham,
Speaker 1: Charlie Bergman, and Tarren Westbrook. Executive producers Aaron Manke, Misha Collins,
Speaker 1: Lauren Shippen, Matt Frederick, and Alexander Williams. Supervising producers Josh
Speaker 1: Thain and Trevor Young. Bridgewater was created by me Aaron
Speaker 1: Manke and is a production of Grim and Mild and
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