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Speaker 2: How did you?

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Speaker 3: I'll explain everything, but you need to come with me.

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Speaker 3: This part of the swamp isn't protected.

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Speaker 4: Why don't you put down that knife first?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 3: There, Thomas, you're looking surprisingly well and this wasn't for you?

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Speaker 2: Was for that?

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Speaker 4: Are we going to a gathering meeting?

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Speaker 3: Why would you think that?

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Speaker 4: I don't know the symbol you carved those in the

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Speaker 4: trees when you want to meet, don't you?

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Speaker 3: That's one purpose for them, But that's not the primary one.

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Speaker 4: So what is the primary one?

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Speaker 3: Come on, we'll talk as we go.

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Speaker 6: Okay, Hey, how did you know Thomas's name?

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Speaker 3: I know who all of you are, Thomas, especially why

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Speaker 3: the Houdini active pulled there?

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure if you were impressed or annoy.

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Speaker 3: Can I be both? Aren't you going to ask me

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Speaker 3: who I am?

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Speaker 4: We know who you are. You're a gathering leader from Virginia.

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Speaker 3: Right, I guess we all have reputations preceding us. Then

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Speaker 3: I assume you know why I'm here?

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Speaker 6: Well, why don't you tell us, all right, here we go.

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Speaker 4: Ah, where are you taking us?

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Speaker 3: It's not so much about the destination as it is

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Speaker 3: about getting on a bus. What I haven't had a

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Speaker 3: chance to cover the whole swamp yet, and the bus

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Speaker 3: stop was closer than the areas I have secured. The

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Speaker 3: bus will be safe.

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Speaker 4: Iron rank the favor of help. Iron buses are steeled,

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Speaker 4: which is an iron alloy.

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Speaker 3: M The next bus should be here in three minutes.

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Speaker 3: We can talk freely on it.

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Speaker 4: What do you mean you haven't covered the whole swamp yet.

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Speaker 3: The ruin I carved it wasn't for community cation. It

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Speaker 3: was for protection.

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Speaker 4: That's why that bigfoot creature vanished.

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Speaker 3: H can't come past the boundaries of the rooms.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 3: I can keep it out of areas, but I can't

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Speaker 3: keep it in. So be careful if you choose to

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Speaker 3: come back.

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Speaker 6: So you're saying it's not gone for good.

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Speaker 3: No, just vanish to the other side for now. That's

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Speaker 3: why I'm here. A lot of things are not where

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Speaker 3: they should be.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we've figured that out.

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Speaker 8: On our own.

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Speaker 3: Does that also mean you figured out what's causing it?

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, we know that something is off balance.

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Speaker 3: You think things are not just off balance, Jeremy. They

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Speaker 3: are broken.

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Speaker 2: Because of you.

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Speaker 5: Me.

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Speaker 4: What did I do? I was trapped for forty years?

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Speaker 3: Exactly. You should never have come back out.

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Speaker 4: What do you mean he shouldn't have come back.

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Speaker 3: Thomas was in there for a reason and he should

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Speaker 4: How dare you say that?

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Speaker 3: Hey, hey, listen, don't be mad at me. I'm just

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Speaker 3: the messenger.

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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, and who exactly is the source.

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Speaker 3: Of this message the other side?

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Speaker 9: Oh cool, So you've got like a buddy over there

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Speaker 9: or something.

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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to come here and mess up your life, Jeremy, No.

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Speaker 4: You're just coming to murder my father.

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Speaker 10: Again.

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Speaker 3: That wasn't me, That wasn't any member of the gathering,

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Speaker 3: or even a member back then.

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Speaker 6: Oh sure there was an offshoot. Yeah, we've heard that

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm right. You have no reason to take

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Speaker 11: Given that I'm the only one here who's actually the

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Speaker 11: victim of an attempted murder.

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Speaker 4: I think I could be angry at whoever I want.

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Speaker 3: That's fair, And I know this doesn't mean anything to you.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't even alive when you were pushed into the

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Speaker 3: liminal but I am sorry for what happened to you.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't right not to mention it didn't even work.

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Speaker 3: The liminal mm hmm, that's what we call it. Where

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Speaker 3: Thomas was and your solution.

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Speaker 4: Is just a thrown back again.

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Speaker 3: Do you know exactly what you're dealing with here?

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Speaker 6: We have some idea, yeah, then.

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Speaker 3: You know who's on the other side, what that place is.

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Speaker 3: Or you have a bunch of half baked theories but

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Speaker 3: not enough solid proof to connect all the dots.

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Speaker 12: Well, we've been thinking maybe it's the Fay realm okay,

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Speaker 12: and considering the way you reacted to my iron assumption.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so you're not totally clueless.

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Speaker 4: So that is what's doing this.

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Speaker 3: The Fay Court, the Hidden People, the Secret Commonwealth, whatever

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Speaker 3: you want to call it, non human beings who reign

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Speaker 3: over a kingdom that lays just beyond a liminal space,

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Speaker 3: who could destroy all of us with ease if they

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Speaker 12: If that were true, wouldn't they have done it by now?

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Speaker 12: I mean it certainly feels like they've been trying at

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Speaker 12: least here.

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Speaker 3: They made a deal centuries ago. What do you We

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Speaker 3: don't bother them, They don't bother us. Everybody stays happy

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Speaker 3: and ignorant.

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Speaker 4: And we have to give them something like a human life.

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Speaker 3: It's different for each doorway here, Virginia, Muda, Mattlock, the

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Speaker 3: Dragon's triangle places where the veil between worlds is thinnest,

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Speaker 3: where the other side is accessible. There has to be

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Speaker 3: something between here and there, hence the liminal where you

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Speaker 3: were trapped with someone else. I'm assuming how did you

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Speaker 3: know that it's similar in Virginia. Well, the need for

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Speaker 3: two souls is at least two souls, one that has

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Speaker 3: to be new every forty years. That's my understanding of

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Speaker 3: how Bridgewater works.

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Speaker 12: And he wasn't willing, so so things have been hinky

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Speaker 12: here for a while.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's not a deal breaker for the Fay realm,

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Speaker 3: the willingness bit, but having two residents of the liminal

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Speaker 3: that's non negotiable. It keeps things nice and closed.

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Speaker 4: So without me, the.

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Speaker 3: Gates are wide open for anyone to waltz into the

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Speaker 3: kingdom or out of it.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so how do we close it?

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Speaker 3: We follow the terms of the deal.

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Speaker 11: Even if I went back in Alden wouldn't be able

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Speaker 11: to come out, or we'd be stuck with the same problem.

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Speaker 3: I take it Alden as the other person in there. No,

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Speaker 3: they wouldn't be able to come out either.

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Speaker 12: Okay, well that's a mood point. Because you are not

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Speaker 12: going back in there.

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Speaker 3: Someone has to or people are going to die.

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Speaker 4: Whoa, whoa. We do not know that you think.

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Speaker 3: You would have been able to defend yourselves against that beast.

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Speaker 3: That's not your storybook, sasquash Jeremy. We've got similar creatures

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Speaker 3: in the South, bear like things that can stand on

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Speaker 3: two legs, take down trees. There's the Faky monster, the

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Speaker 3: Ozak Howler.

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Speaker 12: And wait wait, the faky monster that's Arkansas, right, and

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Speaker 12: it kills livestock.

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Speaker 6: Right, then, maybe what we just saw is the thing

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Speaker 6: that killed the cows.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly my point. These monsters are not gonna stop

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Speaker 3: at a visceray and cows, which is why we need

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Speaker 3: to fix this.

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Speaker 11: Doesn't have to be me though, right, Whatever deal exists

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Speaker 11: doesn't stipulate a specific person.

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Speaker 3: No, it doesn't have to be you. But to be

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Speaker 3: really honest, I don't know who else would willingly go

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Speaker 4: Why would we trust her on this?

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Speaker 13: Why would we trust you on this? We don't even

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Speaker 13: know you. And the gathering hasn't exactly been.

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Speaker 3: Good to us. I have no reason to lie to you.

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Speaker 13: Even if you are telling the truth, that doesn't mean

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Speaker 13: that there's not something else we can do. Okay, you

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Speaker 13: got rid of that beast, the howler thing, whatever, just

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Speaker 13: very easily. You just teach us how to do that,

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Speaker 13: and we can take care of this area.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't work like that. I told you I can

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Speaker 3: keep things out by creating a protective boundary, but I

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Speaker 3: can't keep anything in. They'd be free to rome elsewhere.

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Speaker 4: Can we kill them?

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Speaker 12: They are flesh and blood, presumably right, so we figure

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Speaker 12: out how we can take them down.

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Speaker 3: The monsters coming from the other side are not your

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Speaker 9: I'd say they're pretty urgent concern.

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Speaker 3: If the terms of the deal aren't honored, the Fae

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Speaker 3: Realm won't stick to its side of the veil.

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Speaker 9: Mean what, we're gonna send more monsters through?

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Speaker 4: What does that mean?

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Speaker 3: They won't have to The boundary will collapse, the two

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Speaker 3: worlds bleeding into one another, causing problems we can't even imagine.

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Speaker 3: The deal must be honored.

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Speaker 9: It sounds like we need to renegotiate this deal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think you really comprehend what we're dealing

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Speaker 3: with here, Jeremy. This is old magic. It's not something

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Speaker 3: that can be altered or undone. It's like gravity. We

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Speaker 4: Humans have found plenty of ways to defy gravity.

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Speaker 3: But we always have to come back down always.

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Speaker 4: And do you want to chime in here?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Dad, I think she's right. We may not have a choice, esays,

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Speaker 13: We met her five minutes ago, and you're just taking

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Speaker 13: everything she says at face value.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying that we should just give up, but

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Speaker 4: thank you.

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Speaker 6: No, Jeremy's right, we don't have any reason to trust you.

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Speaker 6: Your predecessor was slippery at best and manipulative at worst.

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Speaker 6: I've known her a lot longer. So until you have

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Speaker 6: proof of what you're saying, and I'm not even sure

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Speaker 6: what that proof would look like, we're going to keep

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Speaker 6: doing what we've been doing and figure things out the old.

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Speaker 3: Fashioned way, grasping for straws in the darkness.

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Speaker 4: Investigate.

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Speaker 3: You know what, Fine, I can't force any of you

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Speaker 3: to do anything. We don't know how disastrous that is,

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Speaker 3: So go ahead, do your own investigating, but do it

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Speaker 3: quickly and when you finally figure out that I'm telling

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Speaker 3: the truth, come and find me, all right?

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Speaker 14: All right?

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Speaker 6: So have you moved into Celeste house too? Huh? Stepped

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Speaker 6: into her whole life.

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Speaker 3: I'm not her permanent replacement. Besides, I wanted to keep

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Speaker 3: an eye on things, so I'm staying in Freetown Forest.

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Speaker 3: That safe, I'm protected, all right. Listen, follow the ruins

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Speaker 3: from the East Hiking Path and you will find me.

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Speaker 4: I don't think we're gonna need to, but thanks.

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Speaker 3: Remember, don't take too long.

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Speaker 12: Hey, it's Jeremy, Jeremy Bradshaw, the cool Professor.

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Speaker 9: Hi.

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Speaker 12: I know it's only been a few days and I

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Speaker 12: don't have any really important sightings to tell you about,

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Speaker 12: although I do actually want to tell you about the

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Speaker 12: Bigfoot situation at some point, but that's not why call.

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Speaker 12: I'm calling because a woman named Peyton Blake showed up

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Speaker 12: up here. She's a gathering leader from Virginia, and I

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Speaker 12: basically just wanted to know if you think she's someone

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Speaker 12: I can trust or.

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Speaker 4: I talked about whatever later, dork. Hey, who was that?

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Speaker 12: Oh that was that legend tripper that I met? I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that was an interesting text to get yesterday.

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Speaker 12: Well, you know, I just thought that I should loop

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Speaker 2: But you're okay, you know, after nearly getting ripped apart

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Speaker 4: I think so.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, but I've decided to call it a hackamack howler.

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Speaker 4: Because it sounds more academic.

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Speaker 9: I am really not looking forward to lecturing.

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Speaker 12: Today, but I'm not sure what to do, because apparently

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Speaker 4: Feels like a reason to take a sick day, though.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: Unfortunately, I think if I take any more of those,

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Speaker 4: I don't know. Do you want to do?

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Speaker 8: You want to help me go over the topics for today.

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Speaker 2: This is so fucked.

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Speaker 6: Eloquent as always lived.

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Speaker 14: Well, I don't know what else I'm supposed to say.

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Speaker 14: I mean, if even half of what Peyton told you

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Speaker 6: Okay, don't joke about that.

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Speaker 14: I'm not joking. It's one thing to grow up hearing

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Speaker 14: collapsing into our world and unleashing all sorts of hell, no,

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Speaker 4: That is not going to happen.

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Speaker 11: Okay, we are going to figure out how to stop

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Speaker 2: How new, Grandpa.

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Speaker 14: We're talking about some seriously ancient forces here, and we

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Speaker 6: We're not gonna think like that. Okay, We're gonna figure

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Speaker 3: Oh sure, yes, super easy stuff.

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Speaker 6: Well I didn't say it was gonna be easy, but

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Speaker 14: All right, what do you need me to do?

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Speaker 6: You still want to help with all this?

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Speaker 14: Do I want to prevent the evil fairy apocalypse?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be nice.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 6: I prefer you stayed inside as much as possible, because

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Speaker 6: I don't like how close that dog got to you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you and me both?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: What needs doing?

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Speaker 4: Ah?

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Speaker 6: Well, let's see. Jeremy's chasing down some information on the

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Speaker 14: He's using all the different reported sightings to try and

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Speaker 6: Fantastic, And I'm gonna go and see if Doc Edward's

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Speaker 6: got any think from his lab examination of the cow.

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Speaker 4: So I could use a hand.

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Speaker 11: Okay, I think we need to find out more about

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Speaker 11: what happened to Olden.

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Speaker 14: Oh yeah, sure, I can help you with that.

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Speaker 6: All right, all right, well, I'll be back in a bit.

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Speaker 2: Oh haha, wait, what do you mean again? H what

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Speaker 6: I'll explain later. I'm sure he'll be fine.

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Speaker 4: Nanna, we'll be fine, Olivia.

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Speaker 14: You know, the more you both say that less I think.

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Speaker 9: You believe it.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what else to say. I have to

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Speaker 14: Right, right, of course, I'm sure it will be. And

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Speaker 14: I'm surprised you didn't want to help Jeremy with his research.

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Speaker 14: I'm sure he'd love to spend more.

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Speaker 5: Time with you.

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Speaker 11: It wasn't really something I could help with. He had

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Speaker 11: to go to work anyway, and he's calling up an

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Speaker 11: old friend from Oxford. Did you know that he studied.

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Speaker 4: There for a semester. I didn't.

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Speaker 14: I mean I didn't really know him all that well,

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Speaker 4: Right of course, you two didn't even know each other existed. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: how do you feel Anne? Did you forget mom? Shelly?

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Speaker 2: I'd take it Anne's out.

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Speaker 11: Yes, yes, you just missed her, but I'm sure she'd

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Speaker 11: be right back. We could call her on her cellular phone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, probably better. She's not here. Okay, hey, live,

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Speaker 14: Oh yeah, sure, I'll just take my laptop to the

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I would say that I'm sorry for just

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess I take the price for that. Huh.

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Speaker 11: Olivia told me she explained everything to you, or tried

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Speaker 11: to at least, but that she needed some time. I

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Speaker 2: It's fine to be honest, I still need time. But

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Speaker 2: I was driving to work and was about to pass

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Speaker 2: I was driving over here. And I wasn't even planning

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Speaker 4: I know she really wants to talk to you. Do

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Speaker 4: you want to sit or I can make you some coffee?

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Speaker 4: I barely understand. And the machine it's got these weird

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Speaker 2: But I'm sure I don't know how long I can stay. Right,

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Speaker 2: You've really just been gone for forty years and just

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Speaker 2: blinked out of and back into existence.

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Speaker 4: Not exactly, I was somewhere all this time.

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Speaker 2: Right right, Yes, it was some magical in between voice.

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Speaker 4: It sounds crazy, I know.

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Speaker 2: Well I don't think that you do. You don't even

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I know freak me out too, that you're really yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 10: I'm really your dad and you have to know, Shelley,

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Speaker 10: I never wanted to leave you or Jeremy and and I.

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Speaker 4: We had a plan. We were going to be a family.

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Speaker 2: But then you got sucked into some other dementia.

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Speaker 11: I know it sounds about as believable as I'm going

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Speaker 4: I'll be right back.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, at least it's not cliche.

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Speaker 4: At least there's that, Shelley, why are you here?

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Speaker 8: Hey?

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Speaker 2: It was Olivia researching, by the way. When she left

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Speaker 11: Oh, we met someone who knows a lot more than

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Speaker 11: we do.

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Speaker 4: And well, the.

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Speaker 2: Situation is, it's it's complicated.

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Speaker 4: There was a boy with me in that other place.

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Speaker 4: It was also trapped in Olivia.

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Speaker 11: She's helping me to try to find out more about

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Speaker 2: Is another.

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Speaker 11: A boy from a long time ago.

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Speaker 2: So this thing, whatever it is, it does take children.

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Speaker 11: Yes, I don't know if that's the preferred sacrifice.

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Speaker 2: What sacrifice.

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Speaker 11: There's some sort of balance sheet. That other place needs

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Speaker 11: I think I think maybe it wanted Jeremy back then.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my mom did mention something about him. Going missing one.

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Speaker 11: We got him back, just like you got your boy back.

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Speaker 11: He's not in danger anymore.

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Speaker 2: We'll forgive me if I don't take you at your

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Speaker 11: I'd like to meet him someday, if that's okay.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so, I mean, at least not. You know,

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Speaker 2: I honestly have no idea. What's okay?

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Speaker 3: You know I don't know you.

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Speaker 2: I know no, I mean, I don't even have stories

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Speaker 4: I never would have told her to do that.

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Speaker 2: Well, Anne Becker does whatever it is she wants, and

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Speaker 2: for some reason, she didn't want me to know that

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Speaker 4: I still am.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 2: You don't just get to claim that you've been gone

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Speaker 2: forty years and we never I mean, we never met,

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Speaker 4: You're right, but I.

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Speaker 11: I thought about you every single day. I understand that

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Speaker 4: I am too.

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Speaker 11: I was just figuring out how to be a dad,

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Speaker 11: But that doesn't mean being a father was ripped out

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Speaker 11: So in the times when I let myself imagine what

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Speaker 11: I mean proud of who I'd become, the kind of

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure Jeremy is thrilled to have you back.

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Speaker 2: He remembers you growing up. You could tell he lost you.

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Speaker 2: He was carrying that hole with him everywhere, and.

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Speaker 4: It seems like he turned into a good man in

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Speaker 4: spite of it. I don't know.

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Speaker 11: I'm still getting to know him, but he seems smart,

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Speaker 4: Like me. I'm feeling a bit like a fifth wheel,

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Speaker 4: like he doesn't need anything returned to him. Then there's you.

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Speaker 4: I really don't know you, but I can tell you're

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Speaker 11: I'm glad you didn't grow up like Jeremy, feeling like

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Speaker 4: But I still want to belong to you if you'd

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Speaker 2: Of course, I felt like something was missing.

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Speaker 5: I just.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know what exactly to miss.

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Speaker 4: Well, whatever it is, you don't have to miss it anymore.

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Speaker 4: I'm here now, and you're I mean, you're.

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Speaker 2: Are you real? You know you're not a ghost or

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Speaker 2: a I don't even know what to ask you.

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Speaker 4: I'm real, and I'm I don't know how many of

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00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 4: this works.

453
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 11: But if I'll live another fifty years, or if my

454
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 11: body just looks young and really I'm in my seventies,

455
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 11: I have no idea what my life would even look

456
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 11: like here in twenty twenty a year. That still sounds

457
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 11: made up in my ears. But I know that all

458
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 11: these questions aren't really important. The only question that matters

459
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 11: to me is if you'll allow me to get to

460
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 11: know you.

461
00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't know, And this is all still so.

462
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 4: I understand.

463
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:10,959
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not saying no, I just I wanted

464
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 2: to come over here today to try and make it

465
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 2: make sense, you know, as much sense as it could.

466
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 4: How's that going?

467
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 9: Not great?

468
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 5: I bet.

469
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 2: I've always had a really hard time with the paranormal stuff.

470
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 2: You know, my teenage rebellion was becoming as pragmatic and

471
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 2: straight edged as.

472
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 4: Possible a model teenager, were you.

473
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 2: Well, no, I would not say that. I was still

474
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 2: pretty awful with the mootiness and shouting matches and awful boyfriends.

475
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 11: God, you and Jeremy never, oh God, no, no, no,

476
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 11: Jesus Christ, I would have been.

477
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 2: Look, I'm barely registering that I have my father who

478
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 2: is alive. I think the question of a half brother

479
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 2: is just going to have to sit on the back

480
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 2: burner for a minute.

481
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 4: Okay, understandable, But no.

482
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 2: No, Jeremy and I didn't overlap in school much. I

483
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 2: have no idea what kind of teenager he was at home.

484
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,120
Speaker 4: I'm sorry I missed it all.

485
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 2: I really should get going to work.

486
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 4: Wait, yeah, thank you, you know for coming by. Maybe

487
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 4: we could continue the conversation at some point.

488
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe, Oh God, what is it, I have your nose?

489
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 2: Jeremy doesn't, but I do.

490
00:26:58,880 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, you do.

491
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 2: Tell Olivia's here at home, so.

492
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 4: Now let go. I have no idea, but thank you

493
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 4: for talking to her, for trying.

494
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 14: I didn't mean to overhear well, actually, I was totally

495
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 14: eavesdropping when she asked if you were real you were

496
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 14: talking around something.

497
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 4: Not a lot gets past you.

498
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 2: Huh, you're not sure you're going to stay.

499
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 4: If I have anything to say about it, I will.

500
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 11: I'll get Alden out, I'll shut down the fay realm,

501
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 11: I'll live my life.

502
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 4: Right.

503
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 11: But I don't know Jeremy's worried something's happening to me,

504
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 11: or that the liminal might take me back?

505
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 2: Is that something you're worried about?

506
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 11: Peyton sent that beast back to the other side with

507
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,439
Speaker 11: a simple carving. What's to say that same thing couldn't

508
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 11: happen to me or to anyone that it was as

509
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 11: easy as drawing a symbol somewhere.

510
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 3: But you don't belong there.

511
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 14: That sasquatch was from the other side, so that room

512
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 14: sent it back. You're not from the liminal.

513
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 11: I've spent more years there than I did here. Maybe

514
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 11: it sees me as part of it, and I keep

515
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 11: I keep feeling sick or tired, dizzy. That's what makes

516
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 11: me wonder if I'm not actually as young as I appear.

517
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 14: Do you feel like you're in a seventy year old's body?

518
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 4: Oh?

519
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 11: But that doesn't change the fact that I'm sitting here

520
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 11: with my twenty two year old granddaughter. Oh, I just

521
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 11: realized I'm dumping all of my problems on I'm sorry.

522
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 4: You're a kid. You shouldn't have to listen to the

523
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 4: adults in your life worry like this.

524
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 14: Okay, first of all, I'm not a kid, and second

525
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 14: of all, I know we're genetically a few generations apart,

526
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 14: but I mean the reality of it just feels like

527
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 14: we're cousins or something.

528
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 4: You don't feel weird about listening to all your grandpa's fears.

529
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 14: Oh, I feel weird about literally everything that's happening in

530
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 14: my life right now. But that doesn't have to be

531
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 14: a bad thing.

532
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: Besides, who else are you going to talk to?

533
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 14: You know, like four people, and one of them is

534
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 14: your long lost love and another is your son.

535
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 4: You might be right. I just don't want to worry them.

536
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 4: I know, not that I want to worry you.

537
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 14: No, I know it's okay, Like, you don't have to explain,

538
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 14: And after all, we don't really know each other, do we.

539
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 14: With Nana, you have this whole complicated history, and you

540
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 14: knew my mom existed. You didn't know to expect me

541
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 14: and with Jeremy.

542
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 11: I don't know how to talk to Jeremy. He's still

543
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 11: a little boy in my mind. So sometimes when I

544
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 11: look at him now, I have to remind myself that

545
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 11: he's the same person, not just some man i've met.

546
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 4: But there's other times.

547
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 11: Where I feel like I'm arguing with him like I

548
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 11: would have if I'd been around when he was growing up.

549
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 14: Well, for what it's worth, I think Jeremy does need you.

550
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: You're not a fifth wheel.

551
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 4: It's kind of you to say.

552
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: I mean it.

553
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 14: Look, I may not know Jeremy well, but I've gotten

554
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 14: to know Vippen a bit, and I think he might

555
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 14: be the person who knows Jeremy.

556
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 4: Best, isn't he Jeremy's ta.

557
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 14: Yeah exactly. They've been working together for a few years,

558
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 14: and Vippen called him Professor Bradshaw until like, I don't

559
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 14: know a week ago, but I think Vippen is the

560
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 14: closest thing that Jeremy has to a best friend.

561
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 4: Really, that's what I mean.

562
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 14: He's not. I just don't know how full his life is,

563
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 14: or how full it was before all of this happened.

564
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 14: Vippen said that Jeremy gave him a whole speech about

565
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 14: not turning out like him, telling Vippen to make sure

566
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 14: he had a life outside of work and all that.

567
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,959
Speaker 4: I'm not sure that this makes me feel better or worse.

568
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

569
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 14: Sorry, I'm not exactly the best at PEP talks.

570
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 4: You know what, I think you're doing just fine?

571
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 12: Hello, Sophie, it's Jeremy Bradshaw. I know it's been forever, Jeremy.

572
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 5: Good lord. I didn't think i'd ever hear from you again.

573
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 12: Oh come on, well, I'm sorry. I know I'm terrible

574
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 12: at keeping in touch.

575
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 5: It goes both ways. I imagine you've been quite busy.

576
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 5: You're back in the Bridgewater Triangle.

577
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I've been back for a while.

578
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 5: Must have your hands full with all sorts of speaks.

579
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 9: No less than I'm sure you have in Pluckley.

580
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 4: You're still there.

581
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 5: I'm actually back at Oxford, if you can believe it.

582
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 9: What are you going for another degree?

583
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 5: Handing them out? In fact, I'm a professor like you.

584
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 4: Oh wow, an Oxford professor. Wow.

585
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 12: Okay, well, I guess you've reached the apex for anyone

586
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 12: in our discipline.

587
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:13,959
Speaker 4: Congrats.

588
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 5: I don't get me wrong, I'm still hoping to someday

589
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 5: find fame and fortune as the first person to provide

590
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 5: definitive proof of the paranormal. But twelve years in the

591
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 5: most haunted village in Britain and I didn't see a

592
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 5: single ghost.

593
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,239
Speaker 4: Sorry, no, you're not.

594
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 5: You always knew none of it was real.

595
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 9: What am I hearing? Has Sophie Burton become a skeptic?

596
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 5: I'm skirting dangerously close.

597
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 4: Well, I guess time does funny things to all of us.

598
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 5: Don't tell me that you believe.

599
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 12: No, no, but I would say that I am. I

600
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 12: am working on keeping an open mind.

601
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 5: I'm impressed. Is that why you're calling me up out

602
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 5: of the blue? You need me to give you my

603
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 5: old ghosts a real shpiel?

604
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 4: Uh, not exactly.

605
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 12: I've actually been trying to expand my expertise, hence the

606
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 12: open mind, and I'm working on something that's a bit

607
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 12: outside of my comfort zone. Okay, I'm trying to write

608
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 12: a lecture that covers the Fay realm. And I realized

609
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 12: that I don't actually really know much beyond the basics

610
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 12: because it's never really been much of a thing in Bridgewater,

611
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 12: so I haven't even bothered before.

612
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 5: What's making you want to bother now just curiosity. Well,

613
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 5: you certainly called the right person. We're chocolate block for

614
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 5: the fath o here.

615
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I was hoping.

616
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 5: What exactly do you want to know? It's fairly expensive.

617
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 12: Well, that's why I wanted to talk to an expert

618
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 12: directly instead of just diving into my books.

619
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 5: Is there a particular region or myth origin you're looking at?

620
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 9: I guess the biggest question is friend or foe.

621
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 12: Yeah. So I feel like the popular cultural representation is

622
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 12: fairly positive overall, tinker Bell and the like, But I

623
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 12: know there's a lot of darker versions of fay Realm.

624
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 12: More so, I'd love to know which side.

625
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 4: To come down on.

626
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 5: Well, there's really not one definitive answer to that question.

627
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 5: For as long as there have been fay Realm legends,

628
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 5: there's been good and bad.

629
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 4: But there is a distinction.

630
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 9: I mean, there are different there are different groups, right.

631
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 5: They can be In Scottish law, there's the Sealy Court

632
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 5: and Uncaly Court. Both are fay courts, so therefore dangerous.

633
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 5: But the Sely won't go out of their way to

634
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 5: hurt humans, but the Uncily Court will. There are related

635
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 5: to a whole manner of evil creatures over here, boggots,

636
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 5: habby lovers, creatures of the devil. Essentially, what do the

637
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:51,439
Speaker 5: Fay want? Well, just general mischief, not the cute fun

638
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 5: kind mind, more of the beating and possessing variety you mentioned.

639
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 9: The courts are those physical courts.

640
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 5: Some times there's a lot of law around fairy lands.

641
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:08,720
Speaker 5: Sometimes they're called other worlds or underworlds, even herd fairy kingdom.

642
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 5: And sometimes they're a physical place, sometimes just a ritual

643
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 5: or the very act of doing magic.

644
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 12: Okay, So if they are physical places, presumably human beings

645
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 12: could enter into one of these lands, and.

646
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,479
Speaker 5: There aren't many legends that explore that idea plenty of

647
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 5: fiction and films, but original myth is mostly the Fay

648
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 5: courts coming over to the human realm.

649
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 9: How about making deals with humans?

650
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 5: Oh? Yes, Fay contracts very tricky things. Their story is

651
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 5: you should never accept a gift from a theory, especially food,

652
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 5: never get into debt with them, never make any promises,

653
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:45,879
Speaker 5: and don't even give them your name in the case

654
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 5: of creatures like.

655
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 9: So basically avoid them at all casts exactly.

656
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 12: Okay, So hypothetically, what if there is an existing contract,

657
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 12: can you break it?

658
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,720
Speaker 5: I have absolutely no idea. Are you in law school? Now?

659
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:06,919
Speaker 5: Is your class on fairy contract law?

660
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 9: I'm just trying to create a full picture.

661
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I've given a few lectures on the

662
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 5: famous and there's so much to cover. It's honestly best

663
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 5: to keep things surface level.

664
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 12: If I were you, Okay, sure, But let's say I

665
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 12: was doing fairy contract law.

666
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 4: What would I teach my students to never.

667
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 5: Enter a contract with a fairy no matter what. But

668
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 5: if they had, they aren't going to let a contract

669
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 5: be broken. The only way I could see out of

670
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 5: it would be if you had something on the fay

671
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 5: court that could neutralize it. In a lot of law,

672
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 5: they hate being in debt. If there was a mutual

673
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 5: debt that could be exploited, maybe the slate would be

674
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Speaker 5: wiped clean. But more likely, you just have a very

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Speaker 5: angry and violent spirit after you.

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Speaker 9: Okay, is there a way to kill them?

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Speaker 5: Jeremy? What is this really about?

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Speaker 12: If I figure it out, I promise I will tell you, Jeremy,

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Speaker 12: just please, whatever you can tell me about ways to

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Speaker 12: stop them or even just ward them off.

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Speaker 4: I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 9: Just just humor me here.

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Speaker 5: It really depends on the type you're dealing with. There's

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Speaker 5: all sorts of things, turning your clothes inside out. Avoiding

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Speaker 5: fairy circles, of course, but circles of all kinds can

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Speaker 5: be problematic. A rooster's crow or church bells have been

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Speaker 5: said to scare them away. I can send you a

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Speaker 5: list of all the methods I'm aware of, if you like,

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Speaker 5: that would be amazing.

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Speaker 4: Selfie, Thank you. Thanks, You've already been a huge help.

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Speaker 5: Sure you'll bring me back if you find yourself in

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Speaker 5: over your head.

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Speaker 4: That's why I caught you in the first place.

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Speaker 5: Are you This sounds ridiculous? Are you okay?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 12: I I think I've got.

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Speaker 4: It all under control.

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Speaker 5: Of course, you've got it under control. I always do.

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Speaker 4: Wow. Fuck, I know. Are you okay? My whole body

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Speaker 4: is sore, but I am alive.

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Speaker 7: I cannot believe I turned down your offer to join you.

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Speaker 4: Next time I go monster hunting, I'll insist.

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Speaker 7: I appreciate that. Hey, thanks for meeting me here. By

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00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 7: the way, I was going to suggest hawk a mocks.

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Speaker 12: But yeah, Well, weirdly, Freetown Forest feel safer at the moment,

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Speaker 12: even if Peyton is hiding around.

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Speaker 7: Here somewhere I'm sorry again for not being able to

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Speaker 7: help with her.

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Speaker 12: No, No, it was fine. It was a long shot.

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Speaker 12: I just wish I knew if I could trust her.

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Speaker 12: Names are really fucked up here. Things are certainly fucked

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Speaker 12: up here. There is just a lot at stake for me.

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Speaker 12: I don't even know how to.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how to protect myself from a sasquatch.

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Speaker 3: Jeremy, it sounds like it was pretty terrifying.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, and if Peyton hadn't shown up, I probably would

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Speaker 12: be dead.

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Speaker 4: My dad was right. I'm an academic. I'm not the

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Speaker 4: person who fights monsters. Here.

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Speaker 7: Let me show you something what I'm not poisonous. I

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Speaker 7: promise it'll be easier if I just guide your hand.

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Speaker 4: Trust me.

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Speaker 7: Okay, so move your hand in a bee like this,

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Speaker 7: and then moved to center and bring it all the

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Speaker 7: way down. Okay, now you do it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I know it feels goofy.

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Speaker 7: Let's try it all right, the.

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Speaker 4: Center down, and I'm supposed to do what exactly?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, it's supposed to banish monsters or trap them

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Speaker 7: or something. Honestly, I haven't had the opportunity to try,

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Speaker 7: but see his keep running into them for real?

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Speaker 4: Well, that'll be an experiment for next time.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, report back to me. I'm dying to know.

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Speaker 4: If it works.

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Speaker 7: Where'd you learn that there was this other legend tripper

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Speaker 7: a while back? I met her at some conference or other.

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Speaker 4: There are legend tripper conferences.

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Speaker 7: You're telling me you haven't been to anything like that.

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Speaker 12: No, no, no, of course I've been to paranormal conventions

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Speaker 12: and academic conferences. I just haven't met a whole lot

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Speaker 12: of uh, monster hunters in one place.

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Speaker 7: Okay, well, maybe conference was putting a bit strongly, but

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Speaker 7: these communities are all tied in together, and there are

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Speaker 7: meetups from time to time. I as she picked it up

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Speaker 7: from some guy in Norway.

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Speaker 4: So it's some kind of old Norse room.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so she said it translates to protection. I think,

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Speaker 7: now maybe you know how to fight monsters.

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Speaker 4: Well, here's hoping that I never have to use it.

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Speaker 7: Come on, you're telling me there's not even a little

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Speaker 7: part of you that's dying to see something else.

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Speaker 4: It was genuinely, really frightening. I would not. Oh shit, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 4: maybe right, of.

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Speaker 7: Course I am. I mean, after all this time studying

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Speaker 7: and teaching all of this stuff for years, you actually

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Speaker 7: get to witness it. I'd be fucking jealous if it

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Speaker 7: wasn't so cool.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, well, you keep hanging out in these forests and

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Speaker 12: swamps and you might see something yourself soon.

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Speaker 7: Maybe I just need to hang out with you more.

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Speaker 4: Well, I guess it's worth a shop.

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Speaker 7: Here's the spirit.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: I was expecting to see you, but not so soon.

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Speaker 4: I don't think we really got to finish our conversation earlier.

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Speaker 3: And what conversation was that?

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Speaker 4: The one about how I broke everything.

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Speaker 3: I seem to remember your son having quite a lot

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Speaker 3: to say about that subject.

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Speaker 4: It's going to get much worse very quickly.

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Speaker 5: Isn't it.

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 3: I believe so.

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Speaker 11: And you think I'm the only one who can fix it,

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00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 11: not the only one, just the right one.

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Speaker 4: What would I have to do?

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Speaker 1: This episode of Bridgewater was written by Lauren Shippen and

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Speaker 1: directed by Brendan Patrick Hughes Assistant director Sarah Kleine. Sound

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Speaker 1: designed by Vincent de Johnny Rima El Kali, Josh Thain,

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Speaker 1: and Trevor Young, with music by Chad Lawson. Starring Misha

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Speaker 1: Collins as Jeremy Bradshaw, Melissa Ponzio as Anne Becker, Alan

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Speaker 1: Tudick as Thomas Bradshaw, Karen Sony as Vipen Kurana, Sabra

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Speaker 1: May as Olivia Hoskins, Cheryl Umanya as Officer Bautista, Will

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Speaker 1: Wheaton as Captain Haddock, Tricia Helfer as the Legend Tripper,

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Speaker 1: Stephen Guarino as Doctor Edwards nand Mi Siu Dambe as

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Speaker 1: Peyton Blake, Hillary Burton Morgan as Shelley Hoskins, Nicky McCauley

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Speaker 1: as Celeste, and Victoria Grace as Katie Franks, with additional

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Speaker 1: voice acting by Greta Gould, Shelby Young, Adam o'byrn Monte, Markham,

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Speaker 1: Charlie Bergman, and Tarren Westbrook. Executive producers Aaron Manke, Misha Collins,

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Speaker 1: Lauren Shippen, Matt Frederick, and Alexander Williams. Supervising producers Josh

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Speaker 1: Thain and Trevor Young. Bridgewater was created by me Aaron

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