1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Just had a poo in the ground, so I'm absolutely 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: buzzed about that, and I'm gonna get tin of beans. 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: Whoa being soaking wet? 4 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: Good Mornings were then Welcome to the No Dunks podcast 5 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: on the Athletic Network. It's Thursday, February eighth, twenty twenty four. 6 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: Happy NBA Trade deadline day to all that celebrate. I'm 7 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 2: j Skeets here in the Classic Factory, and alongside me 8 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: as always, Tess. 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 3: Milis Trade rumor lovers. That's one's for you. 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 2: Next to him, it's the bearded one. Attapsha hot boy trade. Kirby, Hey, 11 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: hey you over Yonder still in the driver's seat. We 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: got Eshua kid. I'll doing what's up Ash And also 13 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: here in studio helping us keep track of everything today. 14 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: It's our guy, Jerome Chain. Where will he go? 15 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 4: I belove it? 16 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 3: Will he go? Will he go? Okay, Mike, we heard 17 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 3: half of it. Where will you go? 18 00:00:58,880 --> 00:00:59,639 Speaker 2: Where will you go? 19 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? 20 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 5: Well, he's kind of love it somewhere. 21 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:03,959 Speaker 3: Let's hear your let's hear your guess. 22 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: Oh no, we're not starting. 23 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 4: We're not doing that. 24 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 2: We have a weggie. It's way more important than where 25 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: Kylin Lowry is gonna end up. Terry Rozier stuck his 26 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: third weggie of the season. Yeah you heard me right, 27 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: his third of the season, number thirty two overall. According 28 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: to our good friends at weggietracker dot com, Scary Terry 29 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: has now matched the individual weggie record set by Ed 30 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: Davis in the seventeen to eighteen season, Tyler hero in 31 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: the nineteen twenty season, and Eric Gordon last year for 32 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 2: the most weggies in a single season with three. So 33 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 2: Terry Rozier has got a lot of basketball still go 34 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 2: here in the regular season and then possibly the playoffs. 35 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: So if he gets number four, he's the official weggie King. 36 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 4: I think they should add it to that paragraph of 37 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 4: texts they have in the heat lane, the weggiest team 38 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 4: in the. 39 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: I though they're gonna say they should add it to 40 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: the basketball reference pages and everything on there. 41 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, so the guy finished twenty sixth. Then MIP voting, 42 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 4: Oh makes the List's got one vote? I guess, so, okay, interesting. 43 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 3: They're very fitting. Terry is the guy who replaces Kyle Lowry. 44 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 3: This is what we started a show with. 45 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got it all comes together? Uh Yeah, the 46 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: NBA trade deadline wraps up at three pm Eastern today. 47 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 2: We're still waiting on a big name or two to 48 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: be moved, of course, but Wednesday did bring a few 49 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 2: smaller deals, and because we're sickos, of course we're gonna 50 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: break them down great them talk about him. Let's start 51 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: with the Celtics acquiring Xavier Tillman from the Grizzlies. It 52 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: took Lamar Stevens and two future second round picks, one 53 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: by way of the Hawks, one by way of the MAVs. 54 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 2: But x go into Beantown. What do you think it's. 55 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 3: A good little pickup. Xavier Tillman is an interesting guy 56 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 3: in that he is ridiculously strong and a ridiculously good defender. 57 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 3: Last year he started in the postseason for the Memphis 58 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 3: Grizzily Grizzlies every single game, and he did a pretty 59 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 3: decent job against Anthony Davis. His numbers got pulled down 60 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 3: a bit, his efficiency got pulled down of it playing 61 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 3: against David Tilman. Now he's not starting for the Boston Celtics, 62 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 3: there's no chance. But he's a better option than Luke 63 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 3: Cornett earning mesh Kita. At times you're going through Brook Lopez, 64 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 3: Joelle Embiid and Nicol Jokich in the postseason. That's what 65 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 3: he is for. Strictly, that is what he is for. 66 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: He had some big games offensively in the postseason, a 67 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 3: twenty one point game. You know, he's had a bad 68 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 3: year offensive offensively, but it's one of the defenses. He 69 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 3: just needs to go up against big bodies. They got 70 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 3: a stronger guy coming off the bench. That's strictly. It 71 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 3: just for a few minutes. I think it helps. 72 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 4: They literally are bulking up their bench here. I like it. 73 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 4: As well. As good as Tilman is defensively, he's pretty 74 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 4: much as bad offensively. His best screen or his best 75 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 4: skill I think is screening, which is helpful. But the 76 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 4: thing with the Celtics is they shoot the ball so 77 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 4: well from outside. They're the best three point shooting team 78 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 4: in the league. Maybe that lets him stay on the 79 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 4: court for ten minutes at a time. And like you're saying, 80 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 4: it only really matters when they're playing against the gigantic 81 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 4: centers because you could throw them out there for an 82 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 4: additional six fouls, and his bulk is more reasonable against 83 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 4: the Joel Embiid than it is if you're trying Luke Cornett. 84 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 4: So I think for the price of a guy that's 85 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 4: out of their rotation, two second round picks that don't 86 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 4: even belong to them, smart move here. 87 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got so many shooters you have to guard 88 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 3: everybody else, and. 89 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 4: This guy you cants score a little bit. 90 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 3: You have a twenty two point game in that postseason, 91 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 3: and it's just smart for the Boston Celtics to go 92 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: get somebody like this now because they won't be able 93 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 3: to sign just anybody in the postseason. They have to 94 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 3: trade for guys just because of how much money they 95 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 3: have on their books, and this guy makes absolutely nothing. 96 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 3: So it's a smart smart move. 97 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can look at it too as like injury insurance. 98 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: I guess a little bit behind porzingis Horford obviously getting 99 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 2: up there in age. You had a great game last night. 100 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 2: I love that they have now sort of one of 101 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 2: everything you'd want in a backup center. You got like 102 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: the athletic rim runner in Kita. You got like the 103 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: high IQ playmaking guy and Luke Cornett, and then you 104 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 2: got like the defensive minded dog here Tillman. So it 105 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 2: gives Missoula options in potential playoff matchups depending on sort 106 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 2: of the other big He's not gonna play a ton, 107 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: but can he win you five to ten minutes of 108 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 2: a playoff game? Tilman? Can he be a difference maker 109 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 2: for one stretch of one quarter of a playoff series? Probably? 110 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 2: And he was really good, like you said Tass in 111 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 2: last year's playoffs when he bumped up his numbers. But yeah, 112 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: the shots just disappeared completely this year. He can't even 113 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 2: score at the rim for a big guy, and he 114 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: can't hit a three. But hopefully he bounces back to 115 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: what he was doing last season in the regular season, 116 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: end the playoffs on a better offensive team, obviously with 117 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 2: a very little offensive role. 118 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 4: If the Celtics end up playing Xavier Tillman a lot 119 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 4: of minutes, they're not winning the championship. I think that's 120 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 4: what it comes down to. If Porzingis is out, it's jober. 121 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 4: If Al Horford is out, probably not good either. But 122 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 4: he's a fine guy and it seems like a cool 123 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 4: guy to have around as well, well liked, and honestly, 124 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 4: they kind of needed a tough guy. They lost that 125 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 4: when Marcus Smart went to the Gizley. So it's good 126 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 4: to get back somebody who will throw an elbow into 127 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 4: somebody else's chest. 128 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Celtics are just looking forward obviously. You know 129 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 3: sometimes these little these little pickups can help. Obviously, we 130 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 3: look back to Marcosol in twenty nineteen. That wasn't just 131 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 3: a little guy. That guy was pretty pretty monumental in 132 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: that series. But the next year the Lakers picked up 133 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 3: Mark if Morris just as a little bio guy. He 134 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 3: played in the postseason. This could happen, This could happen. 135 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 3: I am surprised that he's only twenty five years old. 136 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, number one, he looks way older, way older. 137 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 3: And his name is Xavior Tilman Senior. Right, sounds like 138 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 3: it old, sounds old. Yeah, he's like balding a little bit. Yeah, 139 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 3: he's twenty five. He definitely looks thirty five. But good 140 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 3: job by the Celtics, as you guys said, just to 141 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 3: strengthen the bench here and it didn't didn't really cost 142 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 3: him all that much. The Grizzlies from their side of things, 143 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 3: you know, you said, you don't mind those picks, especially 144 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 3: coming from those other teams like you know, who knows 145 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 3: where Tree Young is in twenty seven with Atlanta Luke 146 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 3: of course with Dallas whatever. But uh them, is this 147 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 3: just sort of another financial move. Yeah, to shore up 148 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:58,679 Speaker 3: their books. Tilman was expiring. 149 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 4: They weren't gonna pay him next seas, and once they 150 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 4: brought back Bismack Biambo and kind of started playing him 151 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 4: over Tilman, a guy they find off the street, it 152 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 4: was kind of over for Tilman in Memphis. So it 153 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 4: doesn't make sense that they're gonna pay him when they're 154 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 4: gonna be getting some guys back at next season. Jared 155 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,239 Speaker 4: Jackson Junior will still be there, Brandon Clark. I assume 156 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 4: we'll get healthy at some point. Maybe he gets a 157 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 4: little run at the end of his season to get 158 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 4: his legs back under him, but not a part of 159 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 4: the future there. So get some second round picks, cuz 160 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 4: second round picks can get you a guy to help 161 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 4: on the bench. Yeah, that's what we've seen. Yep. 162 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: All right, Well, moving on, that was our biggest deal yesterday. 163 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 2: We go to the Pistons. They had a couple minor moves. 164 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: We'll start with them acquiring Simone Fontechio. Yes, the Italian 165 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 2: who is starting and playing well for the Utah Jazz. 166 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 2: The Pistons go and get him, and it cost them. 167 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: Kevin Knox, the second that's the second time I believe 168 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: the Pistons have traded Kevin knocks the second. I hope 169 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 2: he finds his way back and gets traded a third time. 170 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 2: And then a twenty twenty four second round pick more 171 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: favorable of the Grizzlies and the Wizard. So right now, 172 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: that's the Wizards. That's a very early second round pick, 173 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: and the draft rights to a guy you have never 174 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 2: heard of. Maybe one day makes it over to the league. 175 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: But yeah, the Pistons, let's start with them tasks. What 176 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: did you think here of Gabby Pro? Yeah, Gabby Pro, 177 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 2: Sure we might see him. He's apparently not bad. He's 178 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: having a decent little run here over in Europe. 179 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 3: So Mony found Teco. I know the Jazz aren't really 180 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 3: on a lot of people's radar. People don't necessarily look 181 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 3: at what they do. But this guy has been starting, 182 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 3: and he has been shooting thirty nine percent from three, 183 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,599 Speaker 3: and he's defended pretty well. There's sometimes he's taken the 184 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 3: job of another perimeter guy on the other side and 185 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 3: done a decent job. We did a good job against 186 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 3: Brandon Ingram when they played the Pelicans. So the Pistons 187 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 3: are looking for somebody who can shoot three and just 188 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 3: give space to Kate Cunningham and j and Ivy and 189 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 3: they just they just struggled a little bit with that. 190 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 3: And somebody who can defend wings like a sar Thompson 191 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 3: has struggled with that a little bit. Isaia Stewart has 192 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 3: been all right in the forward spot doing that, but 193 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 3: he's just not good enough to defend perimeter guys. I 194 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 3: think this is a nice little take on a contract 195 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 3: three and D guy who's fairly cheap at this point 196 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 3: and will help him out next season. I think they're 197 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 3: gonna they're just trying to spread the floor for Cunningham 198 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 3: and Ivy. I think it's a little little smart move 199 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 3: for them because Fontekio is is guy who can play. 200 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 2: Do you think he's a part of sort of their 201 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 2: plans moving forward here and hence why they gave up 202 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 2: again a very sort of a really sexy second round pick. 203 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 2: It can't get much better than thirty two overall right now. 204 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 2: But do you think they see Fontechio is sort of 205 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: a piece moving forward here? 206 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? They must, because why would you trade a pick 207 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 4: that you could get a player like Simon Pontechio at 208 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 4: the thirty two, maybe even thirty one pick. I would 209 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 4: personally rather have the pick because this guy's twenty eight 210 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 4: years old. You're gonna have to pay him more money 211 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 4: than a second rounder would next year. But Tess is right. 212 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 4: He helps the Pistons, he plays defense, he can shoot threes. 213 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 4: That's something they're looking for, especially if they're going to 214 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 4: move Isaiah Stewart. If they're gonna move boy On Bogdanovic, 215 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 4: he won't be helpful. But if he helps the Pistons 216 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 4: and they passed the Wizards in the standings, then the 217 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 4: pick gets even better that they're sending to the Jazz. 218 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 4: So I don't know. I'm kind of like totally sideways 219 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 4: on this one. Like Fontekia is fine, but he's not 220 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 4: really a part of their long term core. I don't 221 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 4: think he's five years older than all of their best players. 222 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 4: I would have stand pat and maybe try and get 223 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 4: him in the summer, but they wanted to do it now. 224 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 2: I guess I think a lot of people have made 225 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 2: this point. What happens today might dictate how you really 226 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: feel about this deal. If the Pistons do go and 227 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: trade Boyan Bogdanovic or Alec Burks to another team and 228 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 2: get let's say, very similar draft capital, maybe even somehow 229 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: a late first round pick, probably unlikely with those two guys, 230 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: then it feels like a little more easy to stomach. 231 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 2: I'm with you, TK, because like it's like, why wouldn't 232 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: you keep the pick? But if they get one back 233 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 2: because they move one of those guys that they definitely 234 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 2: don't see as part of their long term plans, then 235 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 2: it makes more sense to me. So we'll wait and see. 236 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 3: Earlier, they did it on purpose, gave up a thirty 237 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 3: two to say, hey boy and bug Danvich is better 238 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 3: than that thirty two. 239 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 2: Give the market, Yeah, set the market. That's a galaxy 240 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 2: brain thinking there from Troy Weavers smart. Actually, earlier in 241 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: the day Tony Jones of The Athletic who follows the 242 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 2: Jazz and reports on the Jazz, he said that Fintechio 243 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 2: had emerged as a serious trade target for two contending 244 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 2: teams in the Suns and the Celtics. And I know 245 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 2: Hollinger had been writing leading up to the deal that 246 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 2: Fontechio's cap friendly three million dollar deal could make him 247 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 2: a serious option and for financially handcuffed teams like the 248 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: Clippers or the Nuggets, so all of those teams, you know, 249 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 2: much much better than the Pistons where he lands up. 250 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 2: But you wonder after you know, the Celtics, you know, 251 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 2: then pivoted to of course Tilman and they went with 252 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 2: that direction. But I thought that was interesting from those guys. 253 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: He's good, but he is twenty eight years old. It'd 254 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: be a lot more you know, intriguing if he was like, well, 255 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: he's twenty one to twenty two. Yeah, okay, he's a shooter, 256 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 2: plays a little defense, pairs perfectly, but they also don't 257 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 2: want to be the worst team of all time. You've 258 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: said this before, TK. I think it's part of this 259 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 2: deal as well. This guy plays for the Jazz starts 260 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 2: with him, they're five hundred. He might get us too, honestly, 261 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 2: like you know, might get us to twelve wins and 262 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 2: we don't set like the all time record or something 263 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 2: like that. Because he's decent and he's gonna get an 264 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 2: option here. What about from Utah side of things though, 265 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: because you know, once again, here is his second year 266 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 2: in a row. As we got to the deadline training 267 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: a player that does contribute be shocked. 268 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was surprising. I mean, it makes a little 269 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 3: more sense for the Pistons and that they're getting a 270 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 3: guy that they need, a perimeter shooter defender. They're winning 271 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 3: games here without their players. They beat the Sacramento Kings 272 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 3: last night. This team looks a lot better, so it 273 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 3: sort of makes sense. They don't want to trade their 274 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 3: core four guys in Durham, Thompson, Ivy and Cunningham. It's 275 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 3: good they're playing Ivy again for the Jazzy. That's a 276 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 3: little confusing. The Jazz are confusing every single season. Where 277 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 3: are they going here? I guess they're giving up an older, 278 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 3: older player entering his prime because they don't know exactly 279 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 3: where they're going. But that's what that's what they do 280 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 3: every single season. It's a little confusing. This team is good. 281 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 2: Does it open the runway for a Bajie a little 282 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 2: bit more? Maybe they have another deal. I mean, they're 283 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 2: being linked to de Jonte Murray trade rumors if you 284 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 2: buy that, so maybe there's more to come here. 285 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 3: Hey, Baji is a good player, but Fonteko does something 286 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 3: different and that he can shoot threes. That's not a 287 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 3: Bogie's thing. I guess I don't know. I don't know. 288 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 3: We are watching here for the next four hours. What 289 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 3: Danny and Justin are doing? What are they doing in Utah? 290 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 3: It's a little confusing. Fingers out, buddy, what are they doing? 291 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 3: They're getting a draft pick, That's why they're doing it. 292 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 3: Thirty two pick. Danny Ainge says that's better than Simone Fontecio. 293 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 3: Troy Weaver disagrees, and guess who's been a better GM 294 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 3: throughout their careers. 295 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 4: It's Danny Ainge, buddy. They also had Oshai a Baji. 296 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 4: Like you're saying they drafted Bryce sense of ball in 297 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 4: the first round pick. They're just clearing the way. They 298 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 4: weren't going to pay this guy. 299 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, they have a billion draft picks, so because of 300 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 3: the Donovan, Mitchell and Rigobert returns, so that sure. 301 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 2: Keep adding to the cupboard. Here's a little trivia for 302 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: you guys. Fan Techio. He is now the fourth Italian 303 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 2: born player to play for the Detroit Pistons. That's absolutely 304 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 2: one of them. He played one real season for Detroity 305 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: average two point four points per game. Can you give 306 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 2: me the other two? And I want to say this, 307 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 2: I want to stress this again. 308 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 4: Italian born has Gallinari played for them? This season. 309 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: That's correct. He is on the roster. He's played five games, 310 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 2: actually had one really good game. But now we are 311 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 2: down to the final. Italian born, Italian born guy. 312 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 3: Not a holiday but nobody in that family not a 313 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 3: holiday family. 314 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 2: What else can I give you. He maintained dual citizenship 315 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 2: until his eighteenth birthday, so he's obviously American. His dad 316 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 2: was I want to say, you know, in the army 317 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 2: or air force or something like that. 318 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 3: It's an army. It's an army kid. 319 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, he plays. He likes accessories. Reggie Jackson 320 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 2: been go. Reggie Jackson born in northern Italy, So that's 321 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 2: just a fun fact for you. Thirty six percent of 322 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 2: all Italian born NBA players have now played for the 323 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 2: Detroit Pistons. I was a little pissed that Bell and 324 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 2: Ellie had never played for Detroit. That'd have been great, 325 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 2: and even I was talking myself into Barnianni having a 326 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 2: cup of coffee there, but he did. So there you go. 327 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 2: You got four guys, now Italian guys that have played 328 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: for the Pistons. Or once fun Techio suits up, anything 329 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: else on that one on the Jazz Pistons or no I. 330 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 3: Think that the Pistons have a lot of money free 331 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 3: this summer, so they can they're radious splurs. It's around 332 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 3: sixteen million dollars, So what. 333 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: Are they gonna do? Try and do what the the 334 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 2: Rockets sort of did, you know, get aggressive, get some 335 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: vets in here. 336 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what the money is for. 337 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think you're right though. 338 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, Pantachio, we'll get a little bit. 339 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 340 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 4: I mean, they wouldn't have traded for him if they 341 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 4: didn't want to pay him. And he's a restrictive free agent, 342 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 4: so they can match anything. They've been linked to Tobias 343 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 4: Harris Hm, former Detroit Piston as well. He'll be a 344 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 4: free agent. Seems like the kind of guy that would 345 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 4: take their money. I'm serious, Like, you're not at the 346 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 4: top of the agency list here, and like, honestly, there's 347 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 4: not a lot of free agency lists, so there's not 348 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 4: a lot at the time. I don't know who it's 349 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 4: gonna be, but they're gonna get They're gonna bring in pros. 350 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 4: Ye're not gonna come back next season with all guys 351 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 4: that are twenty five and hundred clearly, Yeah. 352 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And that's why this fun tech youo move. 353 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 2: People call it pre agency, right, that's like in doing 354 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 2: this deal, it's like they're getting this guy in, you know, 355 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 2: before free agency because they'll likely sign them. And that's 356 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 2: why they gave up a pretty good second round pick. 357 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 2: The Pistons weren't done there yesterday because they traded Monte 358 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 2: Morris two Minnesota and in return, the Pistons get Shake Milton, 359 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 2: Troy Brown Junior, and then two thousand and thirty second 360 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 2: round pick. Thoughts on this one with the Wolves TK 361 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 2: getting sort of a backup guard. 362 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 4: Well, the Wolves are thirtieth in turnover rate this season, 363 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 4: and turnovers have been a problem. And there's only one 364 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,120 Speaker 4: guy on the entirety of the Basketball Reference database who 365 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 4: has a nickname about his assist to turnover ratio. So 366 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 4: the Timberwolves went out up and got him, and I 367 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 4: guess this is what they're thinking, a low cost acquisition. 368 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 4: Shake Milton basically out of the rotation for the Timberwolves. 369 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 4: The same with Troy Brown Jr. And then they've traded 370 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 4: so many picks at this point that they're fine throwing 371 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 4: in that twenty thirty second round pick, in for a pound, 372 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 4: in for a penny, in for a pound, I think 373 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 4: is how it goes right, Penny first, pound second. Personally, 374 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 4: he would be last on my list behind Tyas Jones 375 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 4: and Delon Wright. Those guys probably cost a little bit 376 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 4: more to get him in, So I think this is 377 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 4: fair considering he played for the Denver Nuggets when Tim 378 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 4: Connolly was the guy who was the GM there as well, 379 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 4: so he's a helpful backup point guard. I think. 380 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. The Timberwolves have been dropping off from the first 381 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 3: three quarters to their fourth quarter. They actually have the 382 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 3: ninth leading offensive rating at times for the first three 383 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 3: quarters and then they dropped to twenty seventh in the 384 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 3: fourth because they just don't have guards to help out 385 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 3: become stagnant. They stopped moving the ball, and Mike Conley 386 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 3: needs somebody, and that's exactly what they're getting here, just 387 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 3: somebody who can help. They had this film session where 388 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 3: they all got into it. They all talked about what 389 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 3: the hell was going on in our fourth quarter? They 390 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 3: lost games to the Hornets, Spurs and Bowls recently where 391 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 3: they gave up leads. They need this guy for spacing 392 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 3: and turnovers. They have a tough schedule the rest of 393 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 3: the way, so Mike Conley he's old, he's got a rest, 394 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 3: he's gonna help, and that's exactly what they signed for. 395 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 4: Good news, everybody, Yeah, do it. We got all sales, 396 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 4: the trade we do indeed, well, it was reporting the 397 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 4: Indiana Pacers are trading Buddy Healed to the seventy six 398 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 4: Ers from Marcus Morris, Furking, Cork mis Free had three 399 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 4: second round picks. 400 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 2: Here we go. So yeah, seventy six Ers were rumored 401 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,239 Speaker 2: with a lot of guys yesterday, Buddy Heel being one 402 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 2: of them. You know, there's Kelly Lennok. Obviously there was 403 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 2: the ideas of maybe Dejontay Murray and Bogdanovitch on the Hawks. 404 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 2: But it's Buddy Healed getting shooter in here woes again, 405 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 2: Healed going to the Sixers Marcus Morris, Furkan and then 406 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 2: three second round picks. Your immediate reaction as we find 407 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 2: out about this live right here on Notunks. 408 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 3: Well, it's great to hear that Sixers aren't giving up 409 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 3: this season because amongst the talk was, oh, they're going 410 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 3: to trade away Tobias Harris, which really doesn't make sense. 411 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 3: The guy's a starter and he's good, and they're getting 412 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 3: back a shooter here for other guys who aren't as 413 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 3: big as Tobias Harris Is who can shoot the ball. 414 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 3: That's absolutely true. And the Pacers were ready to give 415 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 3: up on Buddy in an expiring deal because they're deep enough, 416 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 3: they have enough shooters, and they were ready to say 417 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 3: goodbye because he basically lost his starting lineup when they decided, 418 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 3: all right, we need bigger, tougher dudes who defend and 419 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 3: shoot the three. So the Sixers get one that is 420 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 3: just going to come off the bench and give space 421 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 3: for Joel Embiid once he comes back, because he has 422 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 3: great percentages. The percentages are damn good for Buddy. Heal, 423 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 3: but he'll definitely be coming off the bench for the Sixers. 424 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,239 Speaker 3: I don't think there's any doubt about that. 425 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, Buddy held in fifty two games this year, so 426 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 2: he's very durable, playing in a lot of their games, 427 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 2: probably all of their games. Thirty eight percent from deep, 428 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: which is actually, you know, for him, sort of a 429 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 2: down you're a bad year, but that's still above average. 430 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 2: Three point shooting last year was like forty two and 431 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 2: a half percent. But he comes in here to stretch 432 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 2: the floor. Give him twelve points per game, and yeah, 433 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 2: this is one the writing's been on the wall for 434 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 2: a while. TK, it's not really surprising that the Pacers 435 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 2: are moving off from him. You know, the players coming 436 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 2: back are not going to move the needle. I don't 437 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 2: even know if they're ever going to play. I mean, 438 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 2: I guess maybe Morris and Furkhm, but I guess it's 439 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 2: the picks. These second round picks, a bunch of them 440 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 2: for Buddy your thoughts. 441 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 4: Buddy Heal is a guy who's made a lot of 442 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 4: trade request, as is Furkan Korkmas, so I'm happy they're 443 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 4: in the same deal for each other. That's great for them. 444 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 4: The Sixers needed to make a move to stay competitive. 445 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 4: We saw last night against the Warriors, great MVP case 446 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 4: for Joel Embiid because they look pretty bad with him 447 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 4: out right now. So a little bit of an offensive 448 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 4: bump I think definitely helps the Sixers. Windhorse reported yesterday 449 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,479 Speaker 4: that the Sixers planned on making one to three trades today, 450 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 4: so this is apparently the first one. And you know, 451 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 4: I think pretty fair for them to send out guys 452 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 4: who aren't gonna be long term rotation pieces, but also 453 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 4: keep your first round picks, keep your bigger deals in 454 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 4: like Tobias Harris. They can package Tobias Harris and a 455 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 4: pick to actually try and get a big name player 456 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 4: if they wanted to. And the Sixers have said for 457 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 4: a while they're trying to keep cap space open. So 458 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 4: Buddy heals an expiring contract, if I'm not mistaken, so 459 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 4: they will still have cap space in the summer. As 460 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 4: of now, good stuff. 461 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 3: Second round picks are the hot trend right now. Oh well, 462 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 3: they're all going right now. The NBA Draft is going 463 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:35,360 Speaker 3: to be so hot because they have now pushed back 464 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 3: the second round to a second night, and so people 465 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 3: are gonna be talking about who's gonna be traded tonight, 466 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 3: Who's gonna be traded tonight? Over two nights, it's gonna 467 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 3: be huge. You're just gonna be sleepover parties. The GM's 468 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 3: gonna be sleeping each other's room. What are you gonna 469 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 3: do with tomorrow? What are we gonna do tomorrow? I 470 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 3: think the second round picks are they are quite hot. 471 00:21:52,680 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 3: The three second round picks is I know, Buddy's good. Yeah, 472 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 3: that's a lot. 473 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 2: Feels like, oh yeah, yeah, I guess so. Look I 474 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 2: like that, Like you said it already, Maury, They're not 475 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 2: punting on this season. That's probably a good sign that 476 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 2: maybe what they know about Jowell Embiid and the likelihood 477 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 2: of him coming back this season, that's cool. I think 478 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 2: they really would have liked a two way player. Can't 479 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: say Buddy's really that no three point shooter. Obviously space 480 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 2: round Embiid, that makes sense, but you know, they're looking 481 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,239 Speaker 2: for a guy I think that could contribute on both ends. 482 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 2: That's not Buddy. But yeah, they may not be done. 483 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 2: This is Daryl murray Man. He lives for a trade 484 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 2: deadline day. You know, you'd imagine there's at least another 485 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 2: deal or two, like minor ones, maybe a big one 486 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: from Maury. I will say. Chris Haynes was reporting here, 487 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 2: you know, fifteen minutes ago a deal between the Hawks 488 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 2: and the Pelicans for de Jontay Murray has halted with 489 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 2: no progress in sight by the trade deadline, So that 490 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 2: one might be done. That one was always tough to 491 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 2: figure out anyway, sort of like why would the Pelicans 492 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 2: really want a guy like de Jontay Murray? How he 493 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 2: fits with their team? But anyway, Yeah, it doesn't look 494 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 2: like that one's gonna going down. 495 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, and they were apparently asking for a conglu as well. 496 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 4: The Pelicans were, and that to me even makes it 497 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 4: a non sure for the Hawks, so I can see 498 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 4: why that would stall. Also, apparently Miles Bridges will not 499 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 4: waive his no trade clause, so he's staying in Charlotte. 500 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 2: Okay, there's that as well. Any thoughts on any of 501 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 2: that stuff there though, especially the Pelicans Hawks steal maybe 502 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 2: falling apart for de Jonte. 503 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't think that Dejonte and his air quotes, 504 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 3: back spasms were really a trade for sure. I thought 505 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 3: he's been injured all season long. 506 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 2: You're saying last night on the injury report, he's suddenly 507 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 2: out of the game. 508 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so was Clint Capella. And then I thought, okay, 509 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 3: Clint's on the move. But apparently he's out seven to 510 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 3: ten days and he's getting a little older, so it 511 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 3: makes it a little less likely that teams are going 512 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 3: to trade for him, even though the future is and 513 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 3: you Cankongolu a center and they signed him to a 514 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 3: good extension the braids or the brace the Atlanta Hawks did, 515 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,239 Speaker 3: so they're not trading him. I don't think. 516 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 2: I don't You don't think the Hawks are going to 517 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 2: trade de Jihonte at all today. 518 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 3: Well, if there's a good deal out there, yeah, the 519 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 3: Pelicans kind of doesn't really make sense. Him and c 520 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 3: J McCollum together. It's fine, but I don't think so. 521 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 2: The best deal. Where's the deal, I mean right now, 522 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 2: if we believe it, it's probably the Lakers with the picks. 523 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 2: Way in the future. Maybe there's a swamp as well, 524 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 2: but then you got to get probably Dangela Russell to 525 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 2: a third team. So now you've got to rope in 526 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 2: another team for the likelihood of Dejonte finding his way 527 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 2: to play with Lebron and ad the Lakers, and it's 528 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 2: maybe not even enough from Atlanta for Atlanta. 529 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 3: I agree. Yeah, the Lakers only have one first round 530 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 3: pick to trade, that's all they have to trade. And 531 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 3: the Hawks gave up many three in a pick swap 532 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,719 Speaker 3: for de Jontay Murray just a year ago, so they 533 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 3: probably want more. But yeah, they've been asked. Everybody's asking 534 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 3: Austin Reeves and D'angela Russell, and the Lakers are saying, 535 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 3: actually it's Angelo Russell that's trending on Twitter tonight. I 536 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 3: don't know who you're talking about. We don't have D'Angelo 537 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 3: Russell It's Angelo as always whenever Dangela Russell is trending, 538 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 3: it's Angelo whoever that is? 539 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 4: Really? Yeah? 540 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 2: Is this because the hyphen in it in the I 541 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 2: mean yeah. 542 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 3: I guess I didn't know that. It's always Angelo Angelo 543 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 3: Russell Angel. 544 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 2: Okay, so look, this is exciting a trade happening while 545 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 2: we're live here. Buddy Healed going to the seventy six 546 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 2: ers and then all those minor deals from yesterday. 547 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 6: Uh. 548 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 2: There it is for everyone joining us on YouTube. 549 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 3: Guy's gonna shootroom, He's gonna shoot. They had get the 550 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 3: Sixers had guys like Marcus Morris already on the roster. 551 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 3: They had enough of those you know, three and D 552 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 3: type guys. 553 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 4: I got them all from the Clippers. 554 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's right. 555 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 4: That's what I said. We'll give you three fore men 556 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 4: and they all play the exact same. Yeah. Marcus Morris. 557 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 4: Does he take his key to the city with him 558 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 4: to Indiana? Oh? 559 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? 560 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 4: Or does he just leave it somewhere in the walls 561 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 4: Fargo Arena when he gets back? 562 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 2: Every door also an option? Well you think the key 563 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 2: opens every door in the city. I just assume that's 564 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 2: what it does. Why else would they get these things away. 565 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 2: I never thought about it that way. 566 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 4: That's real power, really real power and real trust. They're like, 567 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 4: you can't be a creep, that's right, having you a 568 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 4: key to the city. Yeah, I saw the press conference 569 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 4: for Marcus Morris getting the key to the city. Did 570 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 4: they give him like a novelty key or just an 571 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 4: actual What did Markith get? 572 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:11,479 Speaker 3: Nothing? 573 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 2: Nothing? 574 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 3: Does he get the lock? 575 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 2: The lock and the key they go together. Okay, let's 576 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 2: take a break, but I will remind you before we 577 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 2: do that. Coming up at two pm Eastern, We're gonna 578 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 2: jump back on live here as we go up to 579 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,959 Speaker 2: the buzzer for the trade deadline at three pm Eastern, 580 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 2: and we'll do a couple hours of hopefully reacting to 581 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 2: some of the other trades that maybe happen after we 582 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 2: wrap up this pod, and then when we go live 583 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 2: again again, like I said, at the deadline, so can't 584 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,719 Speaker 2: wait for that. Make sure you subscribe podcast listeners, leave 585 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 2: us a five star rating and review. When we come back, 586 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 2: we'll talk a little bit about last night's games. And 587 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 2: I saw Jerome put his hand up, so we might 588 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 2: have another trade. But we'll be back in a second. 589 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 2: All right, we are here in the Classic Factory again. 590 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 2: Happy NBA Trade deadline day to everyone, and I see 591 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 2: big numbers people joining us live on YouTube. We love 592 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: to see it. Hit the like button, Matre, you subscribe. 593 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 2: We go live every day at ten am Eastern to 594 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 2: talk about the NBA games and news and all that. 595 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 2: Podcast listeners help us out, leave us a five star 596 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 2: rating and review. Remember when we were talking about Fantechio 597 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 2: going to the Pistons and we said that might open 598 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 2: up some room that might clear the runway for Abaji 599 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,239 Speaker 2: on the Jazz. Well, so much for that, because right 600 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 2: before we went to break Woes tweeting that the Jazz 601 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 2: are finalizing a trade to send Kelly Olynyk and Ojaiabase 602 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 2: to the Raptors for Kierra Lewis Otto Porter and a 603 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four first round pick. Yeah, we got the 604 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 2: Jazz and Raptors making a deal. 605 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 4: Here. 606 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 2: Trader Danny's doing things today. And that first round pick, 607 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 2: we are learning will be the least favorable of the Thunder, Clippers, 608 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 2: Rockets Jazz in twenty four. That's the one the least 609 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 2: favorable of those four teams. 610 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 4: Clippers right now, I guess. 611 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 2: Clippers and Thunder Yeah, right there, Neck and next, so 612 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 2: you know, late first round, let's call it that. We 613 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 2: got another playing for Toronto. How do you feel Kelly 614 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 2: captain Canada. 615 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 3: I feel like they might move him immediately. I think 616 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 3: there are a lot of teams that were looking for 617 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 3: a center that can shoot the three ball that are 618 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 3: actually contending for a championship. He would fit on the 619 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 3: Lakers as a backup, so that's possible. Otherwise there's a 620 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 3: Canadian Oh Chaiabaji. It felt like, yeah, there might be 621 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 3: a little bit of a runway in Utah. Well he 622 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 3: got on the runway and he's going to Toronto. 623 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 4: Play. 624 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:28,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, come on up. 625 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 3: He is the guy who got traded for Donovan Mitchells 626 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 3: as a draft pick just last year. This is second 627 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 3: year in the league. He is nearing twenty four years 628 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 3: of age, and he hasn't hasn't been incredible in Utah. Actually, 629 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 3: Will Hardy has kind of put him at the back 630 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 3: of the rotation. He's obviously a ridiculously athletic guy, but 631 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 3: that is what the Raps are giving up a late 632 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 3: first rounder for no disrespect to Kelly Olinik, who could 633 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 3: do things, but that's who they're trading for. I guess 634 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 3: to see to see their relationship. 635 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 4: You think this is more about Abaji, Yeah, I think so. 636 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 4: I don't think he has a huge future in the league. 637 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 4: He's very handsome though, one of the most handsome guys 638 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 4: in the league if you ask me. I feel like 639 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 4: this is just a gett a litic play. 640 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess. 641 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 4: And I don't think they'll ship him because if there 642 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 4: was a like a better first round pick that's available, 643 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 4: wouldn't Utah just do that trade? 644 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 2: Yea. 645 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 4: I honestly don't know why the Raptors. 646 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 3: Are doing that. 647 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think they should be trading a pick 648 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 4: right now. 649 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 3: Kelly Olin, he's been around, he's gonna be thirty three soon. 650 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 3: The Rap saint winning anything immediately. I mean, he's nice 651 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 3: to have on the on the bench, but he's getting 652 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 3: a little bit older. He's got to go help a 653 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 3: really good team. It's just kind of confusing from the 654 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 3: Rap side. He's I assume, assize thinking which Abaji we 655 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 3: can try him out. I'm guessing. I'm guessing. And the 656 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 3: Kyra Lewis roun that was quick that of course, Yeah, 657 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 3: that hasn't worked out for Kira Lewis another ridiculously athletic 658 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 3: guy for New Orleans for years, but late first rounder 659 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 3: has not one. I mean it wasn't that late at all. 660 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 3: What was he fifteen fourteen? Yeah, some Yeah, he hasn't 661 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 3: worked out for any team. 662 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Olenik is an expiring deal. He's making twelve point 663 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 2: one million this year, but that's you know, obviously coming 664 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 2: off the books at the end of the year. He's 665 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 2: at the end of the year. He's been playing really 666 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 2: well and that's why his name had been linked to 667 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 2: all these like good teams. The Raptors are not, but 668 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 2: as a possible sort of guy where you could maybe 669 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 2: convince yourself, oh yeah, he could be a difference maker 670 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 2: in a potential playoff series. But yeah, right now going 671 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 2: to the Raptors, this one is surprising, very surprising. What's 672 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 2: miss I gonna do next. We're gonna get Andrew Wiggins. 673 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 2: We're gonna go make an aggressive move for Dylan Brooks. 674 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: That were just literally going, let's got Team Canada out 675 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 2: there into because this is wild. With r J. Barrett 676 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 2: and Kelly O. 677 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 3: Linox, it is wild. He's got to be on the 678 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 3: horn with Rob Polenka saying Lakers take him, He'll help 679 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 3: Anthony Davis. He'll give him rome within the three point 680 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 3: line because this guy can hit the center spot. He 681 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 3: can help a championship team. That's for the Raps. 682 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you really think that messai here is making 683 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 2: this move because he could he sees maybe a better 684 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,479 Speaker 2: like return for olymic Here immediately. 685 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 3: It makes the most sense to me. I guess from 686 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 3: a SIS perspective, our team's gonna be good. Kelly Olynic's 687 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 3: gonna help. That's that's a debatable at this point. It 688 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 3: ain't gonna be for this year. 689 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 2: But he's going to help. But yeah, yeah, what is 690 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 2: it doesn't move the needle. 691 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 3: They ain't making the play in tournament this year. So 692 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 3: you're gonna help a team not making a play in 693 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 3: tournament unfortunately. Yeah. Yeah. 694 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 2: And then the pick, yeah, which is surprising. Again it's 695 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 2: a first round pick at the end. But still, I 696 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 2: know it's a crappy draft, but that's that's capital that 697 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 2: most of these teams want. Strange. This is a weird movie. 698 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 4: It's a weird one pretty weird move. I mean, the 699 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 4: Raptors need three point shooting and that's what Olynic brings. 700 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 4: And that's if you if you squint and you look 701 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 4: through rose colored glasses. That's why Abaji brings as well. 702 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 4: I suppose that he's shooting thirty three percent this year 703 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 4: and thirty five last year. He's supposed to be a shooter. Yeah, 704 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 4: this doesn't make sense for the Raptors to be. 705 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they're maybe maybe you're right task that Obaji 706 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 2: is actually the play here. That they see something that 707 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 2: you know, he's stagnated here in his second year in Utah. 708 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 4: He's been buried. 709 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 3: Of course. 710 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 2: I got a lot of talent there and that that 711 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 2: they think there's a little bit of diamond in the 712 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 2: rough there. That's maybe maybe yeah, hopefully, I guess as 713 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 2: the Raptors. Otherwise, it's perplexing any other deals, So we 714 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 2: need to address here. Any other Canadians headed home? 715 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 3: No, okay, a lot of Canadians. Yeah, this is gotta 716 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 3: be the most Canadians ever to play for this team. 717 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 2: We've got three of them right now. And Bouchet is 718 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 2: still there. He might be traded. He should be traded 719 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 2: today and. 720 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 4: Maybe they got to keep the quota can gone. 721 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people don't know this. Actually have 722 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 2: to have one or two Canadians on the rosters at 723 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 2: all the time. Uh, okay, Well let's talk about another Canadian. Well, 724 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 2: we'll get into some games from last night, but obviously 725 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 2: keep our eyes on Woja and Schaum's Andrew Wiggins. Great 726 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 2: timing here, he had a double double led the Warriors 727 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 2: to the one twenty seven one oh four win over 728 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 2: the seventy six ers, and it's got people wondering task 729 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 2: does Wiggins like little little revival here make it easier 730 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 2: for the Warriors to you know, keep him at the 731 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 2: deadline and Steve Curse and we got a team here. Look, 732 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 2: we've got. 733 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 4: Enough, We got all sales and team. 734 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, we can do this. Well do you think of 735 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 2: Wiggins last night? And yeah, as you know, his name 736 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 2: obviously coming up a lot in trade rumors, but a 737 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 2: tough contracted deal. 738 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 3: It's great to see Wiggy getting back to wiggy stuff. 739 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 3: He looks since Draymond Green has come back from the suspension, 740 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 3: a lot more like Andrew Wiggins, a lot more like 741 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 3: that guy that was literally their best perimeter defender on 742 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 3: the way to championship. That being said, I don't think 743 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 3: he would garner a lot back in return at this point, 744 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 3: because you know how long its contract is for, how 745 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 3: how he's played this season literally his worst number since 746 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 3: he was a rookie. But it's great to see him 747 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 3: out there defending and running and playing with Jonathan Kaminga. 748 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 3: This is what it is. They're playing their best five 749 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 3: together to start, and Curry and Clay, Draymond Kaminga and 750 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 3: Andrew Wiggins. Those guys are playing really well together. So 751 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 3: it's it's part of a deal here where everybody's thinking, oh, 752 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 3: the Golden State's going to make a trade. I don't 753 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 3: think they're making a trade for any of these guys. 754 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 3: Draymond's too good as part of this team. They've literally 755 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 3: dropped out. They've dropped or excuse me, bumped up to 756 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 3: like the seventh best defense since Green came back. And 757 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 3: he's got to be there. And they're not trading wings. 758 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 3: They're not trained coming. I don't think they're trading Clay. 759 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 3: I know Chris Paul was the hot one. Are they 760 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 3: trading Chris Paul if they're bad. It's nice to have 761 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 3: an unguaranteed contract next season where he comes off the 762 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,280 Speaker 3: books and he was good to help out that second unit, 763 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 3: so he will be playing. So I don't think they 764 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,879 Speaker 3: make a deal. And it's great to see what wiggy get 765 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 3: a wiggy with it? 766 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit. Wiggins in only twenty three minutes 767 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 2: twenty one points, nine to fourteen shooting ten boards. You'd 768 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 2: always like to see that from Wiggins. And he does 769 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 2: a good job on Maxie. He had that assignment for 770 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 2: most of the night last night. I know there's no 771 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,879 Speaker 2: Embeid and the Sixers are reeling right now, but kept 772 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,720 Speaker 2: Maxie in check, holding him to five or fourteen shooting 773 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 2: and three turnovers. So good stuff from Wiggins. What do 774 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 2: you think of Golden State here at the deadline? 775 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 4: I love the ten boards. I think that's the most important. 776 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 4: I also love that the Warriors seem to at least 777 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 4: be figuring out on the defensive side of the ball 778 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 4: that Wiggins and Cominga can play alongside Draymond. That's the 779 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 4: most important thing because I don't think there's still a 780 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 4: trademarket for Wiggins. Because I'm with you, guys, I'm like 781 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 4: he is having a revival. He's been really good lately, 782 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 4: and then you go look at his game longs. He's 783 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 4: coming off a nine point game, a two point game 784 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 4: in a game where he was inactive. He's got twice 785 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 4: as many single digit games as twenty point games in 786 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 4: twenty twenty four, So I don't know if he's that 787 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 4: much better, but he's showing more activity. He's still in 788 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 4: the first year though, of a gigantic deal that's going 789 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 4: to pay him until he's thirty two years old. The 790 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:39,320 Speaker 4: Warrior's best hope is that they get engaged effort Wiggins 791 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 4: for him yest of the season, because they're not going 792 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 4: to get a return back for Wiggins that they're looking 793 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 4: for without having to add a. 794 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 2: Pick outside of last night's box score. You're right, those 795 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 2: other games are not going to blow you away. But 796 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 2: if you watch him, he's definitely playing with more like 797 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 2: energy and spirit. He's like out of that funk, out 798 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 2: of that fog that was sort of like that cloud 799 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 2: hanging over him. At least over the last little bit. 800 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 2: Can maintain that because he's a difference maker when he 801 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 2: plays with that spirit. And they've got this lineup you 802 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 2: said it task like he kuris sort of decided now 803 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 2: this is our five. Clay's coming to terms with that 804 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 2: reduced role at the end of games. But Kuminga's development 805 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 2: has been huge. Draymond Green, we know the defensive impact 806 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 2: he has Clay, you know, Steph Steph, and then and 807 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 2: then Wiggins is the does he have does he have 808 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 2: any juice? Does he just play like he's the most 809 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 2: He always should be one of the most athletic guys 810 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 2: on the floor, and when he and when he's just 811 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 2: lollygagging out there, it's brutal. He kills you. So he's 812 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 2: looked better, at least for them. 813 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a little scary because he does come 814 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 3: off those nine and two point performances, but right before 815 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 3: that he had a twenty three and a twenty two, 816 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 3: So he looks good and in bad good and in bad. 817 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 3: The rebounds are important. You're right about that because it's 818 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 3: a tiny team with Draymond starting at the five, because 819 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 3: they're just not waiting for Kevon Looney to have a 820 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 3: good twenty twenty five minutes. So this is, uh, everything's 821 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,840 Speaker 3: important for him trying and Kaminga's athleticism is obviously important. 822 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,720 Speaker 3: But this looks like a good team. The Western Conference 823 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 3: standings are very, very tough, from all the play ins 824 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 3: down even the Nuggets. I'm sorry, excuse me, the mass 825 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 3: it's got to be a little scary for the mask 826 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 3: got a little scary about for the Kings here as 827 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 3: they don't look incredible losing to the Pistons, So it's 828 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 3: it's just stacked. The Western Conference standings are literally stacked. 829 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 3: In Golden State's eleventh right now, making their way up 830 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 3: to the play it well, the. 831 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 2: Clippers took a little step back last night because the 832 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 2: Pelicans beat them, led by Zion Williamson CJ McCollum, both 833 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 2: those guys having big fourth quarters one seventeen one oh six. 834 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 2: Pelicans beat the Red Hot Clips. There's obviously in the 835 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 2: playoffs right now. New Orleans is and we talked about 836 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 2: them being linked to Jontae Murray, but that's apparently dead. 837 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 2: What has impressed you the most, tray about the Pelicans 838 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 2: because I feel like they're the most sort of underrated 839 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 2: team in the league. We never talk about them, You 840 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 2: never hear any other shows really talk about them, and 841 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 2: they're playing really good right now. 842 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're a pretty good team. And the thing that's 843 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 4: most impressive to me is they've got a top ten 844 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 4: defense per Basketball Reference, with like one and a half 845 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,720 Speaker 4: guys who are well respected defenders. Obviously Herb Jones, is clamps, 846 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 4: Jose Alvarado, great off the bench, but he's missed quite 847 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,720 Speaker 4: a bit of time and is still just a bench player. Otherwise. 848 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 4: It's like Valentiunis not really known as a rim protector. CJ. McCollum, 849 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 4: he's not known as a defender. But they've got length 850 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,280 Speaker 4: everywhere outside of their guard positions, where Alvarado's a shorty 851 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 4: and McCollum isn't very big. Everybody else has crazy long 852 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 4: arms and seems to be at least six foot six 853 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,920 Speaker 4: inches tall. So they give a lot of effort. They 854 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 4: do everything pretty well. They force turnovers at an OK rate. 855 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 4: They rebound really really well. That's something Valentunis is great at. 856 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 4: He cleans the glass. They just are pretty good at 857 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 4: everything defensively, which lets them compete in games when they're 858 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 4: playing well enough offensively. I think that's another thing that's 859 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 4: surprising is that the Pelicans have been this good with 860 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 4: Zion having an OK season, Like we tossed his name 861 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 4: into All Star conversations, but he was kind of behind 862 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 4: Brandon Ingram when they were in first place last year. 863 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 4: It was cause Zion was dominating. He is not dominating 864 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 4: this season, but I do think he's taken a little 865 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 4: step forward with regards to his playmaking, he's a career 866 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,399 Speaker 4: high and assists right now, He's got a career high 867 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 4: assist rate as well. His usage is down. You could 868 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 4: say he's not engaged, or he could say he's just 869 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 4: getting off the ball earlier. It's helping the Pelicans, whatever 870 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 4: it is, but they figured out a way to be 871 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 4: a pretty good team despite their superstars not necessarily being 872 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 4: superstars every night. 873 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 3: Yeas Zion had one of those nights where people are 874 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 3: talking about he just doesn't look like an All Star 875 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 3: and he came out slow scoring. He only had two 876 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:31,919 Speaker 3: points in the first half, but he had a great 877 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:36,359 Speaker 3: fourth quarter and he helps out making assists. That's what 878 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 3: he does. And the Clippers, Yeah, came back after a 879 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,800 Speaker 3: long road trip. Tends to happen. It's what happened to 880 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 3: Sacramento to the Pistons seven game road trip. You have 881 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 3: a stinker. Yeah, And Tyler was asked about it during 882 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,919 Speaker 3: the broadcast. What do you have to do to play better? 883 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 3: I don't know, That's what he literally said, because it 884 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 3: was hard. It's hard to Yeah, it's a long season 885 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 3: and literally the first game after the road trips ten 886 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 3: to stink. I know, Kings fans are just mad at 887 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,800 Speaker 3: their performance last night, sure, but it just happens to 888 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 3: this literally was fun while the Clippers were in first 889 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 3: in the Western Conference. It was a fun day. That's it. 890 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 3: An they're gone now, they're gone the place. 891 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 2: Half to be impact now. I think what the Pelicans 892 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 2: season has been so funny too, especially when you talk 893 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 2: about Zion, because like, you're right, he has not been 894 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,240 Speaker 2: like wow, all NBA Zion, but he's been good still, 895 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,399 Speaker 2: but he just picked the worst time ever to have 896 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 2: like those really disappointing games. I'm talking about the inn 897 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 2: season tournament, and then he looked like crap. Everybody was 898 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 2: like complaining about him and wondering about his effort and 899 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,839 Speaker 2: his weight and all that, and everybody just decided, well, 900 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,839 Speaker 2: we're moving on from the Pelicans. They're nothing, don't worry 901 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 2: about them. And that happened. And then of course they've 902 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 2: still played really really well here and you went through 903 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 2: all the metrics tray, you know they're thirty and twenty one. 904 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 2: That's a good record. They're tied with the Suns. You know, 905 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,280 Speaker 2: they improved better record wise than the Kings, who obviously 906 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,479 Speaker 2: picked up an last night, which we can talk about 907 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 2: in a second. But I think they're really fun to 908 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 2: watch too. I like I like a lot of their 909 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,720 Speaker 2: their roster. They're they're guys because everybody is helping so good. 910 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 4: Everybody, even like Najie Marshall, and like somebody should pick 911 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 4: up Naji Marshall and be solid. And another thing that 912 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 4: impressed me, Antonio Daniels is probably top three color commentator 913 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 4: for me in the league. Homer Card, Stacy King is 914 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 4: in the mix as well. You got a lot of 915 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 4: Clyde Fraser. But I love Antonio Daniels. You can tell 916 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 4: he loves watching this team play. He's super exciting. I 917 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,880 Speaker 4: think him and Joel Myers are very very funny together. 918 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 919 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 4: I think they were calling him Grady Richard when they 920 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 4: played the Raptors. That's a whole lot Crady Richard. 921 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 2: Let's get Let's move over to the surprise of the night, 922 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 2: Jade and Ivy scoring a career high thirty seven points 923 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,799 Speaker 2: to lead the Pistons past the Kings one thirty three, 924 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 2: one twenty. Now you're saying this is a bit of 925 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 2: a schedule loss task, boss. 926 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 3: I don't know. There's the Pistons, No, their defense is 927 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 3: struggling at times, this season for the Sacramental Kings. That's 928 00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 3: why I'm very interested in next few hours if they 929 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 3: go in try and get the Kuzma or whoever to 930 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 3: be that power forward spot. Because their defense is bad. 931 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 3: They let the Piston shoot above fifty percent from three. 932 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 3: That's the seventh time they've done that this season. That 933 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,359 Speaker 3: doesn't happen in a lot in NBA games where teams 934 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,839 Speaker 3: shoot that well. Only the Spurs and the Nets have 935 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,720 Speaker 3: allowed that many times for their opponents to shoot fifty percent. 936 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 3: So that's the worrist part. Sacramento Kings have dropped down 937 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 3: to the play in tournament at this point. That's very scary. Yeah, 938 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 3: and I bring up Kyle Kuzman because I wonder are 939 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,359 Speaker 3: they going to try and go for it. It's it's 940 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 3: the defensive side that's been a problem. Pistons had no Kid, 941 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 3: no Boy, and mcdanovich in this one. And it's nice 942 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 3: that Monty Williams has gave Jade and Ivy the keys 943 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,399 Speaker 3: at times because he didn't at the beginning of the season. 944 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 3: That's part of why they've stunk. But yeah, thirty seven 945 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 3: the five from seven from three is ridiculous. That the 946 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 3: fourth quarter was ridiculous where he had a nineteen point 947 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 3: fourth quarter Sacramento Kams were just letting them play Io. 948 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 3: Continue to let them play Iso, and their defenses is 949 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,320 Speaker 3: a big question. It's the effort I think on the 950 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 3: question even even yes, long trip coming back, but I 951 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,760 Speaker 3: should say the offense is a question too. Like Fox, 952 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 3: we went through the wiganstats where he have a twenty 953 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 3: point games and have a nine point game. It kind 954 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 3: of happens to Fox and Monk, both those guys. They're 955 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 3: not twenty point game twenty point scores every single game. 956 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 3: So yeah, that's the scary part to Watson. Bonus is 957 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,879 Speaker 3: their steadiest best player Fox, Sometimes he fades a little 958 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 3: bit and their defense is it ain't there unfortunately, so 959 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 3: it's weird to see them in a play in tournament 960 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 3: spot now at this. 961 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 2: The Kings have a horrible habit of playing to the 962 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,319 Speaker 2: level of their opponent. They do it all the time. 963 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,359 Speaker 2: They look great against good teams, and then they will 964 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 2: lose to bad teams like the Pistons, who improved to 965 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 2: three and twenty on the road, seven and forty three 966 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,760 Speaker 2: ozh overall. And yeah, Ivy was awesome. He was blowing 967 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 2: by Herder every single time. He's just too fast for 968 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 2: Kevin Herder, but offensively right, Keithan Murray zero points in 969 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,320 Speaker 2: twenty minutes, Fox bad game five to fourteen, twelve points, 970 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,800 Speaker 2: and then Harrison Barnes didn't hit a three eight points. 971 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 2: That's three other starters right there. Sibonis, He's he is 972 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 2: the one, the steady guy. He's basically always good for 973 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 2: you know, twenty ten and eight. It feels like every night, 974 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 2: if not more. But those other guys sort of hit 975 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 2: and miss. But it was a bad loss, and Mike 976 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 2: Brown was going, no excuses, come on this, we should 977 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 2: be beating a team like this, and they again they 978 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,279 Speaker 2: carried themselves like, we'll play one quarter, you know, we'll 979 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,359 Speaker 2: play eight minutes of defense, will win this game. Ironically, 980 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:26,360 Speaker 2: it sort of worked. 981 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 4: They almost had them. 982 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 2: They just did it too soon, because yeah, they were 983 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 2: down big. Then they locked in, they took the lead, 984 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,840 Speaker 2: and then Ivy said no, no, no, we're getting a victory 985 00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,760 Speaker 2: tonight and Kings came up short. But any thoughts on. 986 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 4: Once you start rolling, it's hard to turn that water off. 987 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,360 Speaker 4: And they could not stand in front of Ivy and 988 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 4: then it was just overhelping, which led to wide open 989 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 4: three pointers for the Pistons. They took thirty one three 990 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 4: point attempts last night. Fifteen were considered wide open by 991 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 4: NBA dot COM's tracking data, and fifteen were just considered 992 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:59,399 Speaker 4: standard open. So one of them they defended. Well, right, 993 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 4: that's how the p that's made seventeen threes last night. 994 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,960 Speaker 4: This is just weird. Pistons are three and thirty seven 995 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 4: without Kate with Kate Cunningham in the lineup, four and 996 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:11,799 Speaker 4: six without Kate Cunningham. Well, something to keep tracking, keep. 997 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 2: Tracking, keep tracking, keep tracking, keep your eye on that. 998 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 2: Interesting the other games last night, because I want you 999 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,920 Speaker 2: to get your uh, your cowboy hat ready. Here we 1000 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 2: had Porzingis and White leading the Celtics to a win 1001 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,399 Speaker 2: over the Hawks. We had Donovan Mitchell who is on fire. 1002 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 2: He scored forty again. Calves beat the Wizards. That's their 1003 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,359 Speaker 2: seventh straight win. Jimmy Butler had a triple double as 1004 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 2: the Heat pulled away from the Spurs one sixteen, one 1005 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 2: to four. But come on, let's talk trades. 1006 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I got one thought here? Oh what Jmi Bickerstaff 1007 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 4: should coach the All Star Game? Sure, Calves passed the 1008 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,359 Speaker 4: Bucks like the day after Doc Rivers got the got 1009 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,440 Speaker 4: the call because of where the Bucks record is. But 1010 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 4: now the Calves are in second, and they're still in second, 1011 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 4: so I think it's gonna be JB. Bickerstaff since Doc 1012 00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:51,439 Speaker 4: has been there for five games. 1013 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 2: I agree with you. I said this when we were 1014 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 2: like debating, what the hell's going on? 1015 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 3: Wait? 1016 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 2: Why don't they just go down a tier go to 1017 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 2: the next team? Who cares exactly if it's not the 1018 00:45:58,880 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 2: first place team? 1019 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 4: It's like care? 1020 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand, I got rules, but yeah. 1021 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:02,719 Speaker 4: It should be JB. 1022 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 2: Bicks. Okay, well we've got a couple. Actually, yes, we 1023 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 2: do trades. 1024 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:09,120 Speaker 4: Bruce Brown. 1025 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,880 Speaker 3: I see a cowboy hat must be no no. 1026 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 2: No, no, no no no. A man that probably never 1027 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,480 Speaker 2: puts on a hat because he likes his haircut. Gordon 1028 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 2: Hayward where going? Yeah, okay, we are learning from a 1029 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 2: wosh here that Gordon Hayward, yes, is headed to the 1030 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:31,399 Speaker 2: Oklahoma City Thunder for Trey Man and Davis Burton's. Yeah 1031 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 2: you forgot about Burton's. Didn't the old fat deal that 1032 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,360 Speaker 2: he's got, But yeah, I guess the Thunder here adding 1033 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,879 Speaker 2: you know, obviously a former All Star still times looks 1034 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,760 Speaker 2: really good and can put up some numbers. But getting 1035 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 2: a vet in here with all these young guys that's 1036 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 2: gonna bump up their their average age. They got to 1037 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 2: throw that stet out the window because everybody, Oh, I 1038 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 2: don't know, can they win it with an average age 1039 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 2: of that young? We never had a team and the 1040 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,160 Speaker 2: team win it with the average age of twenty two? 1041 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 2: Go to the championship? Oh no, I can get throw 1042 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 2: that out because we've got Gordon here. 1043 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,800 Speaker 3: What do you think? And we're definitely gonna hear. Oh yeah, 1044 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,600 Speaker 3: thunders got an All Star. You're gonna hear all the work, 1045 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,320 Speaker 3: all Star, all the time. Gordon Abord. It's been a minute. 1046 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 3: He's gonna be turning thirty four soon. His contract is 1047 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 3: coming up with the Charlotte Hornets, that major, major contract 1048 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,440 Speaker 3: that he signed. Michael Jordan signed him to this incredible 1049 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 3: deal that he got. It's it's coming to an end. 1050 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,799 Speaker 3: But he's definitely good off the bench. That's where he'll 1051 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,319 Speaker 3: be playing. He can score, so he can help the 1052 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 3: okay see bench, But the Hornets have to say goodbye 1053 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,760 Speaker 3: at this point, right here, right now. When he's healthy, 1054 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 3: I mean, the surgeries and injuries have slowed him down. 1055 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,760 Speaker 3: He hasn't been the same guy. But does he play 1056 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 3: at all? I mean, he has a great question. 1057 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 4: He hasn't literally hasn't played since December twenty. 1058 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 3: Sixth He gets hurt a lot, a lot, he does. 1059 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 3: I guess he's coming back. I guess. I don't have 1060 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 3: no idea. 1061 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,760 Speaker 4: I can't imagine they would trade trade man if Gordon 1062 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,239 Speaker 4: isn't gonna play. But man, Skeets. You talk about a 1063 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 4: guy that they're gonna say he could win you a 1064 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,240 Speaker 4: quarter in a playoff? Oh hell yeah, absolutely right, Hayward? 1065 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 4: Could he could hit three threes? Do that thing where 1066 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,240 Speaker 4: he drives into the lane and stops short. That guy's 1067 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 4: seat belts must be active in his cars because he's 1068 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:21,239 Speaker 4: always stopping short for the little pop ups. But uh, sure, yeah, 1069 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 4: he'll be a veteran helper there, I suppose in okay see, 1070 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,239 Speaker 4: assuming he's able to get on the court, and then 1071 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,319 Speaker 4: I think a worthy roll of the dice for the 1072 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 4: Charlotte Hornets picking up Trey Man a guy who wants 1073 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,799 Speaker 4: the first round talent just out of the picture in 1074 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,360 Speaker 4: ok see, though he did put himself in that picture 1075 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 4: once upon that photoshop. 1076 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,759 Speaker 2: Yeah he is uh, he just turned twenty three years old. 1077 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,759 Speaker 2: So I'm with you, a bit of a flyer here 1078 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,440 Speaker 2: for the Hornets, maybe also doing good for Gordon Hayward 1079 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 2: a little bit here, and in trading him good Gord 1080 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 2: to a good team. I don't know it's possibility, but yeah, 1081 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 2: obviously Berton's also is he an expiring? Yeah, Berton's expiring 1082 00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:58,399 Speaker 2: as well. 1083 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,760 Speaker 3: They gave up on the Burt, which is I guess 1084 00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,920 Speaker 3: they didn't want that. And Trey Man has his minutes 1085 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,360 Speaker 3: have been reduced a lot. Okay, see, but good for 1086 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:10,359 Speaker 3: Charlotte to give him a shot. 1087 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And another trade it's minor, but the seventy six 1088 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,520 Speaker 2: Ers are trading Daniel House Junior and a twenty twenty 1089 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,239 Speaker 2: four second round pick by way of the Knicks to 1090 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,960 Speaker 2: the Pistons. Man the Pistons are active, and we said it, 1091 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,800 Speaker 2: Morey wasn't done and that's a that's House going there. 1092 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 2: I don't know what the hell was what I did 1093 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 2: I even say anything returning? No, No, that's one of 1094 00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 2: those trades where we're still waiting. 1095 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 4: To Okay, we got WOJ added a little context. The 1096 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,920 Speaker 4: move gives the Sixers salary cap cushion to sign buyout 1097 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,120 Speaker 4: player's post deadline, including the possibility of here we go 1098 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:50,480 Speaker 4: Charlotte's Kyle Lowry should he become available in a contract. 1099 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:50,719 Speaker 4: Buy it. 1100 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 2: Okay, oh baby, oh my god. If you're joining us 1101 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 2: on YouTube, you're gonna love this graph of text. Somebody 1102 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:04,840 Speaker 2: tweet this graphic right now. So, yes, house going to 1103 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,799 Speaker 2: the Pistons along with along with the second round pick, 1104 00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:09,919 Speaker 2: which we talked about them, you know, giving up one. 1105 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,160 Speaker 2: Maybe they would get one back. I mean it's maybe 1106 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 2: not as good, but they do. And then yeah, Sixers 1107 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,759 Speaker 2: maybe doing a move here for the future tasks when 1108 00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,960 Speaker 2: it comes to buy out guys. And you want to 1109 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 2: talk about giving Kyle Lowry maybe the key to the city, Yes, 1110 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,279 Speaker 2: that'll get a key. 1111 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 3: Yes, and sorry, Patrick Beverley, I'm taking your key because 1112 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:33,040 Speaker 3: Patrick Beverley is their backup guard. Kyle Lowry would be 1113 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,839 Speaker 3: a key guy. He helped the Heat get to the 1114 00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 3: finals last year as their backup guard. But he played 1115 00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,919 Speaker 3: a lot and he played good. So I thought, yeah 1116 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,279 Speaker 3: that this would as soon as Charlotte deal was done. 1117 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,319 Speaker 3: It made sense for him to go there. Made sense 1118 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,880 Speaker 3: a little bit to the Lakers, and it's great to 1119 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,800 Speaker 3: see that the Sixers aren't giving up and that embiids knees. 1120 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,279 Speaker 3: We'll probably bring him back within weeks. You need those 1121 00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:02,120 Speaker 3: knees obviously, so it's great to hear that. But Kyle Lowry, 1122 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,919 Speaker 3: the Kyler we are signing, it can help, I brought 1123 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,960 Speaker 3: up to the Laker official. No, it's not. It can help. Yeah, yeah, 1124 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 3: like I brought up, the Lakers signed Markie Morse to 1125 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 3: start in the playoffs. They sign him as a bio guy. 1126 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 3: That's what happened in twenty twenty when they won the 1127 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 3: NBA championship. Kyle could help. No, I'm not saying six 1128 00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,600 Speaker 3: they're winning the championship, but he could definitely. Yeah, you 1129 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 3: get help. You get to help a lot. 1130 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 6: Man. 1131 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,840 Speaker 2: Things are happening here. Things are happening during the morning podcast, 1132 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,120 Speaker 2: which we like to see. Will there be anything left 1133 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,840 Speaker 2: come two o'clock? What the hell are we gonna do 1134 00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:35,600 Speaker 2: for two hours? They better get some sporkles ready or 1135 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:36,279 Speaker 2: something like that. 1136 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 4: Check our castings. 1137 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,840 Speaker 2: I'll try and come up with some more Italian trivia 1138 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:41,320 Speaker 2: for your. 1139 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,640 Speaker 3: Great We're gonna open up our mail, that's for sure. 1140 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,160 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, we will be live at two pm Eastern. 1141 00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,520 Speaker 2: I don't we don't care if nothing happens, we'll go 1142 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:54,839 Speaker 2: over maybe some of the any of. 1143 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 4: These three men before God, no, no, there's already saying 1144 00:51:58,120 --> 00:51:58,759 Speaker 4: we're keeping kop. 1145 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. I had to put the big names on the 1146 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,440 Speaker 2: big faces on the graphic. You know that that's a 1147 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 2: that's a thumbnail rule. 1148 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,960 Speaker 4: Okay, if you were going to put three faces on 1149 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,440 Speaker 4: the graphic that you think actually will be traded from 1150 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,200 Speaker 4: the two to four o'clock, Bruce Brown's got to be. 1151 00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,480 Speaker 4: He's the number one guy I think will actually be traded. 1152 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:21,319 Speaker 2: Okay, I like that one. Who else? Let me look 1153 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 2: at Grant Williams, Well, somebody from Dallas. 1154 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,000 Speaker 4: Dallas is super in the mix for everybody right now, 1155 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:27,879 Speaker 4: for everybody. 1156 00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,320 Speaker 2: How about you know I'm gonna put Okay, like Bruce Brown, 1157 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna stick with one of the nets guys, probably 1158 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,320 Speaker 2: a Royce O'Neill. He's going to be moved for a 1159 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:36,360 Speaker 2: second round pick. 1160 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 3: And then DFS that is probably and Finney Smith. I'm 1161 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 3: just picking guys that aren't big names. Frankly, likely, what. 1162 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:50,319 Speaker 2: Will happen someone from the maps? I don't know who 1163 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,360 Speaker 2: I can't pick, but okay, yeah, I like that mystery 1164 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 2: MAVs man mistery Maxwell. 1165 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:59,440 Speaker 4: They're gonna ship that guy home. That weird Mascot're go 1166 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 4: try to get it forever. 1167 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,319 Speaker 2: Face is too scary, a basketball face. Guys on a 1168 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,440 Speaker 2: big contract, too tough to move. Okay, we gotta take 1169 00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,000 Speaker 2: one more break. It's a quick one when we come back. 1170 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 2: Tweet the night, all right, still here in the Classic Factory, 1171 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:16,719 Speaker 2: our first of two podcasts today. At least love this 1172 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,760 Speaker 2: comment though, because we were debating which realistic player should 1173 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,799 Speaker 2: we actually have on our trade deadline special graphic, which 1174 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 2: we're gonna be live at two pm Eastern, just to 1175 00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 2: remind you, we decided on Bruce Brown. Sounded like we 1176 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,680 Speaker 2: came to a consensus on a Royce O'Neill. And then 1177 00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:35,920 Speaker 2: in the stream team they're saying, just put Bugdanovich because 1178 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,319 Speaker 2: it increases your odds, because we've got two of them 1179 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,279 Speaker 2: in the Hawks and the Pistones. So we'll just put 1180 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:46,280 Speaker 2: the name bugged on a vish, not even a player's face. 1181 00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 2: As we wrap up this pod, though, let's get to 1182 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 2: tweet of the night. 1183 00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,760 Speaker 3: Tweet of the night, Wow twit. 1184 00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:03,759 Speaker 4: Tweet of the night. More like thing we yesterday? The 1185 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,879 Speaker 4: boys went to big hoops? What's big hoops. You ask, well, 1186 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 4: it's the world's first tech confused basketball game that allows 1187 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:15,239 Speaker 4: for social competition between all skill levels. Basically, it's top 1188 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,800 Speaker 4: golf for basketball, and we had a chance to demo 1189 00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,359 Speaker 4: it here just outside of Atlanta. You see a bunch 1190 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:25,160 Speaker 4: of different games. They have a bunch of different environments 1191 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,799 Speaker 4: you can play in, and then the key is this 1192 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,280 Speaker 4: basketball hoop. That switch is from a regular regulation size 1193 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,800 Speaker 4: rim to a gigantic big hoop keeping track of your scores. 1194 00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:36,680 Speaker 4: You can play all these different kinds of games. Like 1195 00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,920 Speaker 4: some of them are just about trying to hit a 1196 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 4: shot early in the shot clock so you get more 1197 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:46,000 Speaker 4: points out. They're skeezy, big dumb. Some are a little 1198 00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 4: bit more like a standard Papa shot where you're every 1199 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,960 Speaker 4: time you make it and add something on. We had 1200 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 4: a great time, played for like an hour and a 1201 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:58,319 Speaker 4: half straight fore arms or firing at the end of it. 1202 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,839 Speaker 2: That was really a great time. This is not an ad. 1203 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,640 Speaker 2: We just actually wanted to try this out. Yeah and 1204 00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,800 Speaker 2: deumble this thing, and uh yeah, I think I'm speaking 1205 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,279 Speaker 2: for all of us. We're addicted to it. Nobody wanted 1206 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,439 Speaker 2: to leave yesterday. We're like, hah, everybody's like hopefully there's 1207 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,560 Speaker 2: no trades happening because I want to keep shooting around 1208 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,359 Speaker 2: on this and battling the guys. This is uh, I mean, 1209 00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:18,719 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1210 00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,160 Speaker 3: I think this is going to be huge, super fun. 1211 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,440 Speaker 3: You mentioned that it's like top golf. It is, but 1212 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,279 Speaker 3: the games I think even better, a little bit more 1213 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:28,800 Speaker 3: variety with the games. 1214 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:29,520 Speaker 2: That's true. 1215 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,600 Speaker 3: That that track that it's on, it's pretty neat. They 1216 00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:36,120 Speaker 3: they brought up that it's like at a car factory 1217 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,279 Speaker 3: where you've got these these things just moving. This track 1218 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,879 Speaker 3: is really really cool. It's not like a top shot 1219 00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,080 Speaker 3: you get at a Dave and Busters, you know what 1220 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,000 Speaker 3: I mean, where the backboard might move a little bit. 1221 00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:48,239 Speaker 3: It was all over the place. 1222 00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:49,200 Speaker 4: Oh it's all over the place. 1223 00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:49,719 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. 1224 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:53,560 Speaker 4: You can just practice at your location way back way high. 1225 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:53,879 Speaker 2: Uh. 1226 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,239 Speaker 4: People are asking where is it. They're negotiating spaces right now. 1227 00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:58,960 Speaker 4: Like we said, we demoed it so we got to 1228 00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,960 Speaker 4: see what it was like earlier. But just even being 1229 00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,160 Speaker 4: in the one place and playing around with it, like 1230 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:07,560 Speaker 4: I wish we had it for a couple of hours 1231 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:13,279 Speaker 4: between the trade podcast right now, but eventually it'll be 1232 00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,640 Speaker 4: I don't know, a big warehouse that has ten of them. Man, 1233 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,799 Speaker 4: you know, like a bar and a restaurant that you 1234 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,240 Speaker 4: can order food from. Yeah, that is coming soon, I assume, 1235 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:23,759 Speaker 4: hopefully at the end of the year. I think they said. 1236 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,200 Speaker 2: I got most intrigued when they were like, when we've 1237 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,399 Speaker 2: did it a couple times and obviously we're like all 1238 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,479 Speaker 2: competing and everybody's talking shit and stuff, and they're like, yeah, 1239 00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,960 Speaker 2: we think like there'll be like ten bays or we 1240 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:36,919 Speaker 2: vision like ten bays in a space like you said, 1241 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,000 Speaker 2: a bar and all that, and that you'll be able 1242 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 2: to like have leagues, like you'll have teams like, well, 1243 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,480 Speaker 2: we have a No Dunk's team and our bay is 1244 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,080 Speaker 2: competing because it's just keeping track of everything against the 1245 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,239 Speaker 2: other teams, be it there or around the world. I'm like, 1246 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,239 Speaker 2: oh my god. And then you could be doing all 1247 00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,440 Speaker 2: the same shots and stuff like that. Like the possibilities 1248 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,960 Speaker 2: are endless with this, and I was amazed. I couldn't believe, 1249 00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:58,600 Speaker 2: like we knew we were going into it. I'm like, Okay, 1250 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,040 Speaker 2: this'll probably be fun. I didn't think it'd be this slick, 1251 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,799 Speaker 2: like the interface and the you know the possibilities of 1252 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:06,520 Speaker 2: the games and stuff like that, and just how it looked, 1253 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,280 Speaker 2: especially like you said, tast that track moving, how fluid 1254 00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:09,520 Speaker 2: it was. 1255 00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:10,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was cool. 1256 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,839 Speaker 2: It was cool. So Big Hoops keep an eye out 1257 00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,160 Speaker 2: for that fans. Yeah, we are huge fans. We haven't 1258 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,520 Speaker 2: said like they were like, yeah, we could have you 1259 00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,080 Speaker 2: guys down when we actually officially launched and we could 1260 00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,400 Speaker 2: have come beat like the No Dunks guys, Like we 1261 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,680 Speaker 2: could put our score in and then people could try 1262 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 2: and compete and you can play for prizes and stuff 1263 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,960 Speaker 2: like that. Sounds good. 1264 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:36,000 Speaker 4: Sounds good. You could play in the possibilities are endless. 1265 00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, astrome. Any thoughts on on Big Hoops. You guys 1266 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,840 Speaker 2: got to come to the warehouse there and try out 1267 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:42,200 Speaker 2: the demo. What do you think. 1268 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:45,000 Speaker 5: Waiting for the camera? 1269 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,880 Speaker 2: You can just talk it was. 1270 00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:52,120 Speaker 5: It was a super fun time. It's I mean, we're 1271 00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,800 Speaker 5: all sickos here. If there's a hoop and a ball, 1272 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:59,640 Speaker 5: you're gonna pick it up if anything. Uh, when it 1273 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:01,920 Speaker 5: like this becomes a thing and you can attend it, 1274 00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,480 Speaker 5: I'm gonna be the most anti social person because all 1275 00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:05,200 Speaker 5: I'm gonna. 1276 00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:05,520 Speaker 4: Do is shoot on. 1277 00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:10,320 Speaker 5: Yeah it's but no, I mean, like how quickly we 1278 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,200 Speaker 5: saw the interface and once it's swiped. We're just like, oh, 1279 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,920 Speaker 5: that's interesting. Literally the first shot up we were hooked. 1280 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like it was a problem. It was like, oh, 1281 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:20,000 Speaker 2: this is way better than. 1282 00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:22,400 Speaker 4: It's a really good time. 1283 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,320 Speaker 2: I'm immediately going, can I become an investor in this? 1284 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,280 Speaker 5: She was holding me back from like you guys were 1285 00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,000 Speaker 5: chatting with them, and I was just like sitting there 1286 00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:31,040 Speaker 5: like game, not even going. 1287 00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:32,440 Speaker 3: I was just shooting stuff. 1288 00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,080 Speaker 2: It's fun thoughts. I know you did want to. 1289 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:38,400 Speaker 6: You were an if I got a ball, I'm trying 1290 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,640 Speaker 6: to shoot, you know, I'm really yelliss with it. But 1291 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,200 Speaker 6: I was real, real salty though, because I always came 1292 00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,400 Speaker 6: in second like skeets you were You're killing me every 1293 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,320 Speaker 6: time you would be by one point, I know, but 1294 00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,320 Speaker 6: every other one like I'm like, oh, yeah I got 1295 00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,000 Speaker 6: this one. I turn around and here you go. You 1296 00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:56,400 Speaker 6: got a big score or whatever. I set one record, 1297 00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:57,160 Speaker 6: you record. 1298 00:58:58,600 --> 00:58:59,840 Speaker 3: That was like my record. 1299 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 2: It was fun, very very much fun. Thanks to everybody 1300 00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:04,760 Speaker 2: had big hoops. So that the guys there for having 1301 00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,479 Speaker 2: us out look forward to doing it again. And obviously, yeah, 1302 00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,760 Speaker 2: hopefully this is something I don't know three four or 1303 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,919 Speaker 2: five years will be like basically across America, across the world. 1304 00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:13,800 Speaker 2: They can open these things. 1305 00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:19,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm looking at the ceilings, but maybe outside. 1306 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:23,000 Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. Oh yeah, we can play with the 1307 00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,600 Speaker 2: play with the sheep and the dogs down there. Yeah, 1308 00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:28,280 Speaker 2: all right, let's call it there before any more trades 1309 00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:32,400 Speaker 2: come in, join us at two pm Eastern live here 1310 00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:37,680 Speaker 2: on YouTube. Subscribe like it's the trade deadline special. We'll 1311 00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,920 Speaker 2: go probably two to four, you know, however long we 1312 00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,760 Speaker 2: need to as the hopefully more trades trickle in, but 1313 00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,680 Speaker 2: we got to fire them out coming in live here. Uh, 1314 00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,920 Speaker 2: the ones yesterday, those were pretty minor. But what happened 1315 00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 2: here so far today, Buddy heal Be going to the Sixers, 1316 00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:55,680 Speaker 2: Gordon Hayward going to the Thunder. Also my forgetting those 1317 00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,320 Speaker 2: the biggest names. Yeah, those are the biggest names. So 1318 00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:03,760 Speaker 2: hopefully some more on TNT doubleheader tonight too. MAVs, Nick's Nuggets, Lakers. 1319 01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,160 Speaker 2: Kobe's statue is unveiled tonight. Like I was like, I 1320 01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:08,919 Speaker 2: don't call me us surprised. I know, I should have 1321 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:12,920 Speaker 2: taken note of the date. It is February eight, twenty 1322 01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,200 Speaker 2: twenty four. But yeah, we'll see that tonight as well, 1323 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:17,800 Speaker 2: So we'll be back tomorrow morning for the Drop podcast 1324 01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:19,960 Speaker 2: at ten, but you're joining us live at two. Can't 1325 01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,440 Speaker 2: wait to see it then, Clipper Brose, you heard it 1326 01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:23,000 Speaker 2: here first. 1327 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:26,480 Speaker 4: Have a great time, turn up. Love you guys awesome. 1328 01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,200 Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us. And remember Daryl Mori in Philadelphia 1329 01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,560 Speaker 3: signed Kyle, Signed Kyle Lowry and give him a key 1330 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,080 Speaker 3: to the freaking city and the freaking state. 1331 01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,920 Speaker 2: Let's do it race today, people,