1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:01,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to Drive to the Draft. 2 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 2: We are down here in Dallas at the Star for 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 2: the first day of the Shrine Bowl. 4 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: We're one and done because the snow's coming in Man. 5 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 2: But we talked prospects that impressed, prospects that could maybe 6 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: do better, and. 7 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: Then we talked a little bit of team building. It 8 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: all starts right out. 9 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 3: Welcome to the Drive to the Draft podcast. I am 10 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 3: just that guy, Jason, and I am here with ten 11 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 3: year NFL VET Logan Paulson. Logan you played for. I 12 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 3: had this little game going on in my head when 13 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 3: we were driving from the airport to the hotel. I 14 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 3: was like, who are all the coaches that you played for? 15 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 3: And I was listening. Some good ones on that list. 16 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 3: We don't have to go through them all, right now, 17 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 3: some good ones, mostly from the Shanahan tree, but also 18 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 3: Dan Quinn played with him in Lana. So my point is, 19 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 3: you've been around a lot of great offensive mines and 20 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 3: I would like to consider you a great offensive mine. 21 00:00:58,520 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: Very kind of you. Thank you. Yeah. 22 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 3: So so, listeners, you're lucky to have Logan Paulson here 23 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 3: dropping some knowledge on you. But the other thing about 24 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 3: Logan that is super important that really everybody needs to 25 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 3: key in one is that you are one of my 26 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:14,559 Speaker 3: good friends. 27 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: That's the most important part. 28 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 3: But the most important thing I really want everyone to 29 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 3: grasp in fact, so good of friends that you were 30 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: on a FaceTime call with your lovely wife and she 31 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 3: said Hi Jason. Yeh, she knows me. And she's like, 32 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 3: that's how you you say hi to your buddy's friend. Like, 33 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 3: that's what you do. Like my wife would say hi 34 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 3: to you. Your says hi to me. That's what you 35 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 3: do to your buddy's friend. So so that's if you 36 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 3: take anything out of these podcasts, is that Logan Paulson 37 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 3: and Jessica Jason very good friend. But the biggest thing 38 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 3: I want to key in on uh is we're at 39 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: the shrinebol we are here, we are in Texas. We 40 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 3: saw the first day of practice. We are immediately leaving 41 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 3: Texas because they're is a storm coming through here, an 42 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 3: ice storm? 43 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's like crazy watch the news down here 44 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: because you know, ice storms happened all the time in 45 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: Virginia or in the north as they like to stay 46 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: down here in Dallas. And one of the things that 47 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 2: they were like, yeah, like this it sounds like the apocalypse. 48 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: You know, power is going to be out to buy 49 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 2: food for ten to fourteen days and we're in a 50 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,679 Speaker 2: hotel and we're like, they was just leave. 51 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe we should have been stuck for ten to 52 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 3: fourteen days in a hotel, right, And things are a 53 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 3: little different down here in Texas or not as uh 54 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 3: the equipped right for the cold as you are probably 55 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: up in the DMV like how we are. We have 56 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 3: a storm coming through, so we're leaving one storm to 57 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 3: get to another. That's right, But we're we feel more 58 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 3: prepared and comfortable being at home than here at the 59 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 3: lovely hotel that our boss booked us. Yeah, here in 60 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 3: that So if you're listening to this and you say, hey, 61 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 3: I thought this was supposed to be a live show 62 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 3: with Jeremy Green, well guess what. There's weather down. 63 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 2: Here, and Jeremy's trying to leave too. Yeah, we're trying 64 00:02:58,560 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 2: to get to the airport. 65 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a mass exodus here of some of the 66 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 3: media trying to get out of here. But I promise 67 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 3: that we will have a recap of the Shrine Bowl 68 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 3: with Jeremy. We will still watch some of the practice, 69 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 3: hopefully get footage of that in some way or another, 70 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 3: or at least watch the game. We'll get a recap 71 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 3: for you of the practice the Shrine Bowl on Monday. 72 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: Jeremy will join us for that and then it's off 73 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 3: to the Shrine the Senior Bowl, and we will give 74 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 3: you your regularly scheduled programming. Fingers crossed for that. 75 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: Fingers crossed right. 76 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: So that's our house cleaning. Now let's get into the 77 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 3: Shrine Bowl. Because we did actually watch practice in person 78 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 3: today the first day of practice, and I have to 79 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 3: say it was a lot of fun. Being from Washington, 80 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 3: I had never been to the Star, the Dallas practice 81 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 3: facility is very nice and as much as I disc 82 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 3: like Dallas, just at a visceral fan level, pretty nice 83 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 3: complex then. 84 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 2: Very nice complex and really kind of a cool spot 85 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 2: for the venue because it's all it's like it's connected 86 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: to a hotel. So the guys just walk down, walk 87 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 2: over to practice. They have locker rooms there, and there's 88 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: a great seating for the scouts and the coaches and 89 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: the media and the agents that are there to watch, 90 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: and there's plenty of room on the sideline for people 91 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: to stand and kind of take notes. So it was 92 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: I don't know what I was expecting, but this was 93 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: this exceeded expectations. It was actually like a very pleasant 94 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 2: viewing experience, and I felt like, I like, it's so funny, 95 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: Like I had a couple of coffee this morning, which 96 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 2: I don't really do because I was tired from the 97 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 2: travel yesterday, and I felt like I was really locked 98 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: out on practice. So I've got a lot of notes, 99 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: a lot of things to talk about, and I'm excited 100 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: to get into it. 101 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 3: Well, let's jump right into it, Logan. We watched practice. 102 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 3: What I'm going to start off this way? High level? Yeah, 103 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 3: high level? What did you think of the practice? What 104 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 3: was the structure like, what did it look like? What 105 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 3: was the feel of it? Give us Shrine Bowl Day 106 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 3: one practice? 107 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? 108 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: I mean, and this was really interesting to watch because 109 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: you know, in Senier Bowl, I feel like we've been. 110 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: There for three years now, we've gone. 111 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 2: This would be the fourth year we've gone, and I 112 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: always feel like for getting a bunch of guys together 113 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 2: for the first time, it's relatively sharp, and this kind 114 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: of felt the opposite. Like the first practice today, there 115 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: was a ton of false starts, guys not knowing where 116 00:04:58,640 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 2: to line up. 117 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: Same thing with the second in practice. 118 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: I'm not sure if they get him that if the 119 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: if the guys get here a little bit later than 120 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 2: they do for the Senior Bowl, but it just felt 121 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 2: a little bit off, And it's honestly interesting watching practice. 122 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 2: Like I think all these guys are really good college 123 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 2: football players and really good kids, obviously, but I think 124 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: the thing that sticks out is like you're looking at 125 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 2: a very different type of prospect when you're here at 126 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 2: the Shrine Bowl. And We've talked about that a little 127 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 2: bit other places, but I think one of the things 128 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 2: that sticks out to be probably most acutely, is you're 129 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: not looking for like the stud Like at the sheet 130 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: at the Senior Bowl, there's going to be Ruben Bain, 131 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: there's going to be Bailey, the guy from Texas Tech. 132 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: He'll be there. 133 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 3: Potential top five, maybe even top ten, definitely top ten, 134 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 3: but potentially top five guys. 135 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 2: Like really outstanding football players. And here it's more like 136 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 2: you are looking for traits. You're looking for qualities. You're 137 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: looking for guys that fit roles on your team. You're 138 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 2: not necessarily seeing those stud players that have like a 139 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 2: ton of product production, really good measurables. There there's always 140 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: something a little bit off like and I think, you know, 141 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 2: just as an example, like the receiver I think is 142 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: really interesting specifically for the East roster, like Kobe Young 143 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: Noah Thomas both receivers from Georgia. 144 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: They transferred in. 145 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 2: One was from Miami, Kobe Turner was Kobe Young from 146 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 2: was from Miami, and then Noah Thomas was from A 147 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 2: and M. And they were very productive at their previous schools. 148 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 2: At Georgia, they both had injuries this year and were 149 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,359 Speaker 2: kind of middling in terms of production. So, like, you know, 150 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: they're big, strong guys. They definitely looked a part, but 151 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: it's you know, you're kind of here, kind of this 152 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 2: is your last audition, having only played five or six 153 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 2: games this year, and so getting to see those guys 154 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: one more time against some good competition, I think is 155 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 2: really helpful. And that's really kind of the nature of 156 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 2: the prospects, right It's like, here are some guys that 157 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 2: maybe could do something, but they're probably down down the 158 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 2: board picks a little bit. 159 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: And I think that's kind of. 160 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 2: The interesting thing about the evaluation process because it does 161 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,279 Speaker 2: change a little bit down here in Dallas. 162 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: As a post Tomobile, let me ask you a question. 163 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 3: How do you take watching film of like a Reuben 164 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 3: Bain or David Bailey and then and say, Okay, now 165 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 3: I'm going to go watch film of a guy that's 166 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 3: going to be your the Shrine Bowl. Let's do like 167 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 3: Ethan Burke for example, right, And it's like, how do 168 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 3: you make the how do you remove that mindset of like, well, 169 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 3: he's not this guy. 170 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's right, and. 171 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 3: Still give an evaluation almost like make sure you're not 172 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 3: having a confirmation bias in the sense of like, okay, 173 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 3: you're not a top ten pick, so I'm going to 174 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 3: see your flaws and like does that make sense? Because 175 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 3: sometimes I know when I'm watching just as a guy, 176 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, well, no one's heard of this guy. 177 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 3: I haven't heard of this guy. He's at a lower school. 178 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 3: So like my middle my initial thought process like what's wrong, 179 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 3: Like that's what you're looking for, Versus when you go 180 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 3: watch David Bailey, you go for what's right, And it's 181 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 3: like just making sure your mindset is even playing field. 182 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 3: How do you do that for yourself? Just as far 183 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 3: as this process. 184 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: So I always try to make sure, you know, I 185 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: feel like I'm harder on top prospects. Honestly, I feel 186 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: like I'm looking for the flaws more and I do 187 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:00,559 Speaker 2: feel like my mind set shift. 188 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: My mindset set shifts. 189 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 2: The other way right in terms of like when I'm 190 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 2: here at this event and watching guys that are way 191 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: down the list, it becomes like what can they do? 192 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 2: And does that what can they do? Does that add 193 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: value to the Washington commanders of the team or can 194 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 2: I see it playing playing out? 195 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: You mentioned Ethan Burke, Like he's a big guy. 196 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 2: He's six', six he's two hundred and seventy, pounds he's 197 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 2: got thirty three inch, Arms like he's a big, man 198 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 2: but he's kind of got skinny, arms skinny, legs kind 199 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: of an odd. Build but like when you watch him 200 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 2: against the run At, texas like he's. Outstanding he can 201 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: play in multiple spots From, Texas, yeah the edge From, 202 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 2: Texas and so it's interesting looking at him because it's, 203 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 2: like is he the right fit for? Everybody probably, Not 204 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 2: but if you want a first and second down edge 205 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 2: shedding player that's going to play with good physicality and 206 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 2: good awareness and use his hands really, well there's value 207 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 2: There and could he develop into a third down maybe 208 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 2: interior pass. Prusher, sure but Like i'm looking at what 209 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 2: he's giving us right, now and, that's you, know some 210 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: type of physical presence against the run on early, downs 211 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 2: WHICH i think every team needs that Right, like SO 212 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: i think that's kind of what where my mindset, goes you. 213 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 2: Know Like Kobe turner is another interesting. Example, like so 214 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 2: he's a big, receiver he's sixty, three he's two, fifteen 215 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: he's From. Georgia he's the guy that was hurt FOR 216 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 2: i think five or six games this. Year but the 217 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 2: thing about him is like what does he progress to 218 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: the next? Level does he project to the next? 219 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 3: Level? 220 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 2: Well and so WHAT i would say is like watching 221 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 2: a run, routes like is he a perfect? 222 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: Prospect? Now does he get a little stuck in out 223 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: of his? Break? 224 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 2: Sure but he uses his frame, well he's. Physical the 225 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 2: other thing that he does is he plays. Teams so 226 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: if you're going to bring him in with a sixth 227 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: or seventh round pick or maybe U, dfa like he 228 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 2: has a shot to make the roster because he can 229 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 2: play gunner and then he can kind of develop as 230 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 2: that third or fourth receiving option for. You and because 231 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: of the, frame because of the, size because of the ball, 232 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 2: skills you kind of say maybe there's more, there, Right 233 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 2: so that's kind of what you're looking at is like 234 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 2: not what can't but what Can because a lot of 235 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 2: these guys have pretty glaring what can't they? Do is 236 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 2: it's just about like can you find roles for them 237 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 2: in your on your? Team AND i think like those 238 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 2: are two good examples of guys that you're, Like, OKAY 239 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 2: i see something for, them you. Know another EXAMPLE i 240 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 2: think would be the receiver FROM, lsu WHO i didn't 241 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: really have a ton of faith In Xavion. 242 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: Thomas he's five to. 243 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 2: Ten he's one hundred and ninety six, Pounds he's that 244 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 2: smaller guy obviously kind of plays a slot for them AT. 245 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 2: Lsu and again watching me, Here i'm, like my thought 246 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 2: watching film was, like can he actually do this at 247 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 2: THE nfl? 248 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: Level in? 249 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 2: HERE i think he won every one on, one was 250 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: very sharp, underneath played through, contact well physical in the run. 251 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 2: Game is he an absolute? 252 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: Murderer? 253 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 2: No but could he return puns for you and maybe 254 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 2: be that third down developmental. 255 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: Piece? 256 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: Absolutely, SO i think that's kind of what you're looking 257 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 2: at here is you're looking at people With wartz but 258 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 2: also like there's things that they can, do so focus 259 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: on what that is and see if that works for. 260 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 3: You, Right, so when you're building a, roster you have 261 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 3: fifty three, men, yeah more than that now with practice, 262 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 3: squad and when you have camp, invites it's even more than. 263 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 3: That so not everybody is going to be a. Superstar 264 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 3: so if you're going to bring somebody in and you 265 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 3: want them to help your, team it can't be, like, 266 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 3: well you played football, BEFORE i guess that's a good 267 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 3: enough come on over. Here, yeah it's, like, NO i 268 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 3: need you to play a very specific role almost at this, point, Right. 269 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: YEAH i think that's. 270 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 2: IT i think it's also just like, YOU i think 271 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: people think of the top now everyone does. It it's 272 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 2: not this is not a criticism of, fans but everyone 273 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 2: thinks of the top guys on the, roster your top 274 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 2: three or four, guys, right and when in, reality the 275 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 2: majority of your roster is composed of guys that are 276 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 2: quote unquote, journeyman guys that are going to kick around 277 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: a little, bit guys that are defined by their role 278 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 2: on the. Team and so if you can find some 279 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: depth in later rounds of the, draft you, know, three, four, 280 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 2: five six seven eight free AT udf excuse me with 281 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 2: the eight, There then that's really going to build a 282 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: nice backbone for your, team. Right if that middle class 283 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 2: of your roster is very very strong with very good role, 284 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 2: players it supports the top half of your roster in 285 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 2: a really nice. 286 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 3: Way and As i'm, Sorry i'm kind of on this 287 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 3: before we really dive into The Shrine bowl, guys BUT 288 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 3: i find this, interesting this part of team. Building so, 289 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 3: like if you're A gm or a head coach or 290 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 3: maybe both of them working, together and you're you want 291 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 3: to find these guys that like serve these roles and 292 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 3: fill out a. Roster they all you're looking for, something you, 293 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 3: say right when it comes to the, individual like what's 294 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 3: the thing you? Do but that thing you do then 295 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 3: has to. Match AND i would assume an overarching theme 296 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 3: that the team. Has let me give you a quick. 297 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 3: Example tell me If i'm right or. Wrong i'm trying 298 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 3: to lay this. Out so let's say we're gonna be 299 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 3: all right. Overarching, first we're gonna be a tough at nails. 300 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 3: Team that's what we. Are when it would be no, nonsense, hard, 301 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 3: violent tough as. Nails, Okay then off of that we're 302 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 3: going to be a run first team on, offense and 303 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 3: we're going to be a run stopping team on. Defense, 304 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 3: Okay now we have our stars that are scheme, agnostic 305 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 3: as you call. Them they'll play in anything they fit in. 306 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 3: This and then you have guys do a couple of 307 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 3: things at a high. Level, Okay now you have your 308 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 3: bottom of the roster guys or your fill out of 309 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 3: the roster, guys and that's where you come to The Shrine. 310 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 3: Bowl and if you're a, scout a coach or anything like, 311 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 3: that you're, saying who out here wants to get nasty 312 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 3: in the run? Game that's their plus arm length all of. 313 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 3: This maybe that's their, Wart but are they and that's 314 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 3: what they're looking for? Now is that what's happening with 315 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 3: scouting here at events like The Shrine bowl where they're 316 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 3: all going through and they're, saying here's what you do 317 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 3: well and then try and link it all the way 318 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 3: back to what the team identity. 319 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 2: IS i don't know if every team's doing, that BUT 320 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 2: i think the good teams are the smart teams should 321 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 2: do something like. That LIKE i think back to one 322 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 2: of my favorite draft clips of all time was When 323 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 2: sean McVay was making his pitch to THE gm In 324 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 2: la with the rams For pukinakua, okay and he, says you, 325 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: know like he's physical at the point of, attack he's 326 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 2: grounded through the, catch and he's an absolute maniac. 327 00:13:58,760 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: With the ball in his, hands. 328 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 2: Right and, so like the thing that sticks out to 329 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 2: me is like he identified, Strengths like he's, physical he 330 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 2: is grounded through the, catch which is a huge part 331 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: of a receiver skill, set and he's a maniac with 332 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 2: the ball in his, hands. Right and so you can 333 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 2: see That sean McVay in this example is a very 334 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 2: clear vision for what that player is and how he 335 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 2: fits in the. Offense and there are a lot of 336 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: people that, say, oh you, KNOW i want A, PUKINAKUA 337 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 2: i want a big slot for my, team, right but 338 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 2: they don't really use them that. Way and that's the 339 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 2: thing THAT i always find. Confounding it's like if the 340 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: coach and THE gm are aligned in terms of. Usage, 341 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 2: so for, example let's go back to our defensive end From. 342 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: Texas was his Name, brown? Right? 343 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 2: No The, Burke, Yeah, Burke like if you want if you, said, 344 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: hey we're looking for a third down pass rushing, player, 345 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: like that's not what he is and so that would 346 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 2: be ridiculous for me to bring him in to do. 347 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: That but IF i, say If i'm the coach And 348 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 2: i'm talking to you THE, gm AND i, Say burke 349 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: does a great job on first and second, down AND 350 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 2: i think he has some inside outside pass rush. Flexibility 351 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: we got to develop that a little, bit BUT i 352 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: think we can BECAUSE i think he's the right kind of. 353 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: Worker because the inner we have with, them then you, Say, 354 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 2: okay you have a vision and a plan and a 355 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 2: path for this. Player let's maximize. That and SO i 356 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 2: think that's where good coaching good front office. Align, right 357 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 2: they've done the work the front, office they've, Scouted but 358 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 2: then how does the coaching staff feel about the? Player 359 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 2: AND i think with unlike with the people at The Senior, 360 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 2: bowl where it's like very, clear the, path very clear 361 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 2: the role, here the role is a. 362 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: Little bit more. 363 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 2: Ambiguous AND i think that's the thing you run into 364 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 2: here is like do you see the? Path does it 365 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 2: fit with your overall? Vision and then DO i have 366 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 2: a plan to get the player where they need to? 367 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 3: Go all, right let's talk about some of the. Players, 368 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 3: yeah move off to the team building, thing even though 369 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 3: that's the most interesting to me sometimes is how teams 370 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 3: are built Because i've never been in the room where 371 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 3: it happens with that goes. On but we can continue 372 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 3: to have these conversations throughout the draft. Process, okay let's 373 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 3: talk about some actual players. Here we talked About, burke 374 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 3: we talked about young as guys that kind of stood 375 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 3: out to. You is there anybody? Else let's start. There 376 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 3: the guys that stood, out they just day one of, 377 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 3: Practice i've reckoned like you're you're standing tall in the, 378 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 3: crowd everybody put their eyes on. You you did something. 379 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 3: Today now carry that momentum through the. Week who are these? 380 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 2: Guys, yeah SO i think there's a couple guys that stood. 381 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 2: Out and again like it's it's kind of again because 382 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 2: you're looking for. Traits so just a simple. One maybe 383 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 2: this is the most obvious one Is Gary, smith the 384 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 2: third From UCLA's near interior defensive. Lineman he's six to, 385 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 2: one he's two hundred and thirty, Pounds he's got thirty 386 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: two inch. 387 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: Arms he is not a great pass, rusher but that's his, 388 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: word that is his. 389 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 2: Wort he's not good at that but like when you 390 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: watch so in the first, practice so he was part 391 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 2: of The east. 392 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: Team, Yeah east. Roster i'm getting mixed Up east. 393 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: Roster and so they do like a double team, drill, 394 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: right and so there's guys that just get absolutely ejected 395 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: from the. Club it's like we're checking id's it's offensive 396 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 2: lineman's favorite. 397 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: Drill there's no. 398 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 2: Linebacker we're just going to sit this double. Team And 399 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 2: i'll be darned if you Know Gary smith doesn't know 400 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: how to split a double, team sit to a knee 401 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 2: and not lose any ground every single time he does that. 402 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 2: Drill and so IF i want a guy who's a 403 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 2: rotational first and second down player that can stop the, 404 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 2: run he's a guy that catches your. 405 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: Eye. 406 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 2: Right he's not the same guy as you Know Daryl 407 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 2: jackson From Florida, state who's kind of the big name 408 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 2: down here at defensive. Line like he's six,' five he's. 409 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 2: Three thirty he, can run he's like he's got this 410 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 2: reputation of being one of the bigger players in. College football, 411 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 2: he pops, he flashes he's he could have easily gone 412 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 2: To The senior bowl in, my, Opinion right like that 413 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 2: is an easy thing, to catch and it's just about 414 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 2: utilization where he, best fits like strengths. AND weaknesses i 415 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 2: don't think he, did like, for example he didn't do 416 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 2: a great job in the double, team, drill right but 417 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 2: in pass rush drills and, team drills like you feel. 418 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: Him because he's just a, superior. 419 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,959 Speaker 2: Athlete RIGHT so i think Guys Like gary smith are 420 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 2: really interesting in that regard because he pops in a. 421 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 2: Different way the defensive Lineman From Navy. Landon robinson he's five, 422 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 2: to eleven two hundred and, Ninety POUNDS like i, immediately 423 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 2: thought like he's got some good burst off, The ball, 424 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: but like could you use him as a? Rotational fullback 425 00:17:58,400 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 2: was the THING that i THOUGHT when i, saw him because, 426 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 2: he's fast. He's quick is he going to be able 427 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 2: to survive IN the nfl as a, you know every down. Defensive, 428 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 2: tackle no but could you carve a role for him 429 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 2: kind Of Like patrick recard Up? IN baltimore i think 430 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 2: so in that position is starting to, come back especially 431 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 2: with a bigger, body fullback and so could he bring 432 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 2: a little value? 433 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: On? Team sure and is he going to have to 434 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: kind of find his way to. The roster but he. 435 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 2: Showed enough bursts and explosiveness, you're, like uh, Maybe right and, 436 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 2: so again maybe not, the biggest most explosive or dynamic. 437 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: Guys at the position for, the DAY but i just 438 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: give you. 439 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 2: Some example the other one on defensive line interior that 440 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 2: really jumped out to me and was not on my 441 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 2: RADAR at r at All Was, james thompson Junior. From 442 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 2: illinois he's, six' five he's, Three oh one and sometimes 443 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 2: you just watch a dude, and you're like THAT dude's an, 444 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 2: nfl ball player and that's what he. Came out today 445 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 2: like they were, doing reach drill he was, kicking butt 446 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 2: right he's doing pass rush and he just his. Athleticism 447 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 2: shows up team guys are having a hard. Time blocking 448 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 2: him and when you're kind of the best player of 449 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 2: the day at an interior, defensive line position you stand. 450 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 2: Out that, way like again he Is with the west 451 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,640 Speaker 2: roster so, the second practice but those are the types 452 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 2: of things that really stick out from that interior defensive line. 453 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 2: Group of, guys, you're, Like, oh okay, like You, KNOW 454 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: obviously jackson i was aware of, him coming in but 455 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 2: those other, guys, like okay well maybe these are guys, 456 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 2: that YOU know maybe, udfa seventh round sixth round pick 457 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 2: that could make the roster and then not only, make 458 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 2: the roster but provide a valuable depth piece under if 459 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 2: the team drafting them understands how best. 460 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: To utilize, them all right what? 461 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 3: Are, some guys now those are the? 462 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: Guys? 463 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 3: That, popped, yeah yeah, right all right so what do 464 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 3: you want those guys to now do for the rest? Of, 465 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 3: the week like are you okay? With like, okay for 466 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 3: instance you Were Just Saying, james, thompson, Thompson, right okay 467 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 3: sorry so, he, popped today right are you okay if 468 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 3: like tomorrow he doesn't or the next thay or does 469 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 3: he have to? Continue to pop do these guys have 470 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 3: to continue to be that alpha dog? At this practice 471 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 3: like because there are four, days of, this so yeah they, 472 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 3: stood out today but do you then go check mark 473 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 3: and then? Never look again or does the longevity of? 474 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 2: THE week matter i think the longevity of the week matters, 475 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 2: because like today he, was, Physically dominant right so why 476 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 2: won't you be? Physically dominant tomorrow it's, because you're tired 477 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,959 Speaker 2: because you're, out of shape because it's unimportant to. You, 478 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 2: maintain IT yeah and, i think again he should be 479 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 2: able to and so when we do, our recap show 480 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 2: we'll be able to talk about him. A little, BIT 481 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 2: but yeah i think that's something that sticks out to 482 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 2: ME is like i noticed this is the. Senior bole 483 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 2: too if you have a, GOOD first day i expect 484 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 2: you have a. Good second DAY so like i remember 485 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 2: a couple, Of Years ago offensive lineman, had an awesome 486 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 2: like stellar first day then didn't do anything for the rest. 487 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 2: Of the week like that's a red. Flag for, me, 488 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 2: it's like well why was the first? Day so good 489 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 2: was it just because you were motivated and pumped up 490 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 2: and ready to go and then all, of a sudden 491 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 2: that's not in the in the in. The CARDS anymore 492 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: so i do think for some, of these guys it'd 493 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 2: be nice to see them kind of have a continued 494 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 2: level of, success MOVING forward and i think they will 495 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 2: based on what they did today and the things that. You're, 496 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 2: looking For again, if i'm, Expecting you know smith to 497 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 2: go out there and get four, sacks of practice like. 498 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: That's just unrealistic, ON my back i. 499 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 2: Want him to continue to look stout, against the run 500 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: continue to look like he can handle that responsibility well 501 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 2: and that's going to be his role at. 502 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: The, next level. 503 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 3: Okay who are some of the guys to you that? 504 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 3: They didn't pop they didn't, win the day but, it, was, 505 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 3: LIKE oh okay i like here's, a LITTLE note here's 506 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 3: i gotta Follow up where oh MAYBE this guy i 507 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 3: needed to go watch. Some film again maybe THERE'S something 508 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 3: there i. Didn't see before like just seeing them in 509 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,680 Speaker 3: person gave you. A DIFFERENT perspective a i about eyebrow 510 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 3: raise if you will? 511 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 1: Like, the Rock. 512 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 2: YEAH the rock i think the first one that comes 513 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 2: To mind is jackson to watch The linebacker From. Miami 514 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 2: of ohio so. He's six' three so again the measurement 515 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 2: sticks out to. Me for a, linebacker he's sixty, three 516 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 2: he's two thirty he's got thirty, One, one inch arms 517 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: like that's kind of. What you're looking for a lot 518 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 2: of the linebackers here are kind Of smaller GUYS. Like 519 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 2: perkins from lsu? What's His? First name harold? Perkins is 520 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 2: that right let me. Find, It Real Quick yeah harold 521 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 2: perkins junior is kind of. Like this star safety and So, 522 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 2: when you see kowatch like he looks like a dude 523 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 2: and he has an interception today and he's running, out 524 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 2: with the football, he's getting guys, communicated and you're like 525 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: you were. Not on my radar you weren't. EVEN on 526 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 2: the list i think he was a Late Ad. To 527 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 2: the shrine bowl and, You're, kind, of LIKE okay well 528 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 2: now i want to go watch him because it's so 529 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: hard to find guys. Who can play linebacker like a 530 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 2: lot of the linebackers here, when you watch them especially, 531 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: in one on ones, they're just totally, outmatched like physically 532 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 2: outmatched like they can't keep up with the tight. Ends 533 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 2: or the backs and so when you've got a guy like, 534 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 2: him who can, run he can jump he's got good, 535 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 2: body awareness, AND coverage it's, Like i don't know i'd 536 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 2: have to keep watching him right to kind, of get 537 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 2: a field but like He's definitely someone that i've, circled, 538 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 2: him and like, okay like let's see maybe, you're a 539 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 2: rotational linebacker special, teams guy to start but you kind 540 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 2: of find your, way onto the field Kind Of like 541 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 2: a cole holcom maybe who's got some athletic upside with 542 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 2: with some good stuff going on. 543 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 3: To the spit off, of that real quick, not necessarily 544 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 3: about him but you could use. Him as an example 545 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 3: how much does being at these practice and seeing a 546 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 3: guy like you said, With, him is like, okay now 547 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 3: he's communicating he looks like a, leader on the field 548 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 3: he's getting everybody together. Into the right spot how much 549 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 3: of that shows up more here than it would? Be 550 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 3: on the film and how do you weigh, That. 551 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,719 Speaker 2: It's, it's huge, like so you know, just As An 552 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 2: example like eric gentry from LSU's or from, a usc 553 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 2: EXCUSE Me linebacker from usc he's he's he was one. 554 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: Of my most intriguing. 555 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 3: They were talking to me. About him last, night he's. 556 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 2: Six six, He's two twenty five he's got. Thirty five 557 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 2: inch arms he looks like a spider out there the. 558 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: Way he runs. 559 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,719 Speaker 2: AROUND he can run i think He could actually play 560 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 2: nickel at THE next level because i, THINK he can 561 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 2: cover i. THINK he can run i think he's. Not 562 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 2: afraid of physicality and SO to me when i, was watching, 563 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 2: him today like again Just comparing him to kowatch as 564 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 2: a as, a point of, comparison like he's tired, he's 565 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 2: out of breath he's on a. Knee on the side 566 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 2: now he might not be feeling, he might be. Sick 567 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 2: he's throwing, Up but, to me i'm like you knew, 568 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 2: This game was coming so like are? We not, in 569 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 2: shape and again like he's he's not communicating. With the 570 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 2: other linebackers he's kind of got this, deject did body 571 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 2: language and so, you're, kind of, like huh you know 572 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: like it's just it's. A it's a start i Almost, hope, you're, 573 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 2: sex yeah YEAH right, because like i again like this 574 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 2: is an, important, interview for you right so like let's 575 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 2: make sure that we're ready to rock and. Roll with this, 576 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,919 Speaker 2: thing and so yeah when you when you get, that 577 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 2: point of comparison you Get a guy like kawach who's 578 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 2: crushing it and really just like helming, and leading, the, defense, 579 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 2: You're LIKE okay cool like i. Want TO know more 580 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 2: and i think it's just, EVEN in this conversation i 581 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 2: want to, know more about him while, with the other 582 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 2: guy you're hoping that, it's he's actually ill, because it, 583 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 2: was that you know like jarring to see him. That 584 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 2: NOT not engaged so i think that's Like where STUFF 585 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 2: where i've where i think there's value in. Being at 586 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 2: the event and again One of the, reasons i'm bummer' 587 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 2: leaving but we have to leave. Because of the weather, 588 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 2: but like the is you get to kind of get 589 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,719 Speaker 2: a feel for the personalities a little bit more right 590 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 2: when you're watching, them on the sideline. Watching HOW they're 591 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 2: communicating like i think a really good example Is, The Receiver. From, 592 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 2: cincinnati jeff caldwell right he is everything you. Want in 593 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 2: a receiver he's six six, four almost sixty five two, 594 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 2: hundred and ten pounds he's got thirty three and a 595 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 2: half inch he is a he looks the. 596 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 3: Part, before you, start yeah, go AHEAD all right because i. 597 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 3: We WATCHED this guy ye i watched this, guy separately 598 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 3: from you. Without you knowing this you just said a wide. 599 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 3: Receiver at one point you didn't tell me, in, the, 600 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 3: name CORRECT yeah right because I think and, like, i 601 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 3: was like oh are you referring To the kid from cincinnati? 602 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: Who? 603 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 3: Takes, plays off, Yeah RIGHT right RIGHT so i didn't 604 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 3: i didn't get. To see Him today, so now i'm 605 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 3: WONDERING like that's what i. PUT in my notes i 606 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 3: think that's something, you mentioned about him is words, as 607 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 3: you describe him and then it's like? How Is he 608 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 3: here now i'm curious? 609 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:43,479 Speaker 1: How? 610 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 2: Was HE here yeah so i think that was the 611 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 2: thing that was surprising to me was he was very, engaged. 612 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 2: With the process right he wasn't again like there's still 613 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 2: something to be desired, from a physicality, standpoint BUT you 614 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 2: know like i found out that he's, relatively new to 615 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 2: football he's kind of learning the. Ropes a little bit 616 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 2: and to see him talking to the coaches trying, TO 617 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 2: help himself along i, think is, Always encouraging you know 618 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 2: like and again going back to just a good Example Of, 619 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 2: this was ethan burke right The. Defensive end for texas 620 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 2: like he did all the special, teams coverage drills like 621 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 2: and then when it was time to, go do past 622 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 2: rush he like ran over and checked with the special teams, coach, 623 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 2: and was like hey do you need? 624 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: This for this period and the, guy was like no 625 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 1: and then. 626 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: He ran, back over so like just guys that are 627 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 2: engaged and locked in and trying. To maximize, this process 628 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 2: and again when, you're watching the film you don't, you 629 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 2: lose those storylines. 630 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: You, lose those moments. 631 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 3: Yeah this is. So fascinating To me and using caldwell, 632 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 3: HERE as an example i think is a great one 633 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 3: BECAUSE far too often i do this. Too far too often, 634 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 3: it's it's a hey we'll watch a highlight video or 635 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 3: a couple of clips of film and he's either what he's, great, 636 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 3: or he's trash right like you distinctively put. Them in 637 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 3: two categories, and, then it's like, well wait a minute what? 638 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: Did? 639 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 3: We just watch right why? Did we watch it and 640 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 3: then you go watch more, film, and it's like well 641 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 3: he lacks it daysical he takes his, plays off and 642 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 3: okay but that's why this process that we're going through isn't, 643 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 3: all about the film because you're just, Brought, up to 644 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,959 Speaker 3: me hey look. At him at practice look at how. 645 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 3: He's engaging in practice look at what he's. It's important to. 646 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 3: Him you, see that and, then like you mentioned, he's 647 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 3: new to football so MAYBE this play that i watched 648 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 3: that was, what six months, ago he looks disengaged but 649 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 3: maybe he just doesn't. Know what he's doing, and at 650 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 3: that point, like the point is it's context and it's 651 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 3: like this draft process is so it's so important to, 652 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 3: be at, these events for scouts, to be at events 653 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 3: to talk to the, janitors at the school to talk 654 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 3: to these kids and, put them on whiteboards to, watch 655 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 3: film to like because that's how you get the full. 656 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 3: Picture of a kid SO all that is I digress 657 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 3: To Say i'm glad jeff, caudwell did well today because 658 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 3: that's A red. Flag THAT i HAVE and i and. 659 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: I guess the thing is like did he do like did? He? 660 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 2: Catch every ball no but did he? Run the routes 661 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 2: hard was? He again? In condition in shape and. It's 662 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 2: AGAIN it's yeah and i THINK the thing that i 663 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 2: would say too is like a little bit of it 664 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 2: is just like is this is this someone you? 665 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: Want? To invest in right is this? At? A job 666 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 1: interview right is this someone you? 667 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 2: Want to invest in, and so leaving today like there 668 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 2: was a LOT of receivers where i came out, of, 669 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 2: it being like man LIKE these guys are i remember 670 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 2: thinking the receivers coming to this event were kind of, 671 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 2: on the. Weaker side you Know But like, watching dylan 672 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 2: bell today the other guy that you, like watching, his 673 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 2: professionalism the sharpness the conditioning that, He Brought right again 674 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 2: noah thomas who we, Mentioned before was injured. 675 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: Like again there's is? 676 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 2: He? A perfect player no but did they do the 677 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: things they? Were asked to do did they wind up 678 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 2: where they were? Supposed to line up did. They, have 679 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 2: any minimalist no like those. Guys were locked in like 680 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 2: even The Running, back from ohio state who who have to, 681 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 2: leave practice early, today like to ME. Really, set out 682 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 2: cj donaldson like because of, how he ran routes how, 683 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 2: he caught the football how he Was IN pass pro 684 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,239 Speaker 2: like i was just like you could tell he's been 685 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 2: at a program where there's a, certain level of professionalism 686 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 2: and it was good to see just those little, accents on, 687 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 2: a day you know even though he, Had TO leave, 688 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 2: early like i think like those ARE the accents that, I, 689 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 2: WANT to say okay i want to watch. More of 690 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 2: this guy does he have the professionalism required to? Make 691 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:19,479 Speaker 2: in the league and again that's what you're looking at. 692 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 2: With all these, guys and you know one of the 693 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 2: fun things about, An, event, like this. 694 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 3: Okay uh let's try and put a bowl bow on this. 695 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 3: First day of practice any guys that we haven't talked 696 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 3: about yet for, one reason or another you just want 697 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 3: to get, their name out there want to say a 698 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 3: little something about him after the first Stay, here, AT trin. 699 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 2: Yeah so i mean always THERE'S a bunch OF o 700 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 2: linemen that i think at THIS event specifically that i 701 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 2: was impressed with because, again like coming in like the 702 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 2: list is always, a little bit scattered like who's? Going to, 703 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 2: MAKE it but uh i don't even. Know how To 704 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 2: Say his Name REED adams FROM. Texas a and m. 705 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 2: That's his last name. HE plays right guard i thought he. 706 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 2: LOOKED really sharp today i got. To actually bumped in 707 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 2: this is another great. THING about the event i bumped 708 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 2: into a guy that, coaches, HIM and said like i 709 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 2: think he. Could start right now and IT'S a guy 710 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 2: that i have a lot of respect for and so 711 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 2: like to get that, validation from his coach to see him, 712 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 2: living a living color the, questions that he's asking how he's, 713 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 2: engaging with you know, the old line coach the assistant 714 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 2: a Line coach for the commanders is. Helping out, here 715 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 2: today like though like that's, great to, see that you 716 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 2: know great to see again. That Kind of engagement joe 717 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 2: cooper's The Other, guy from slippery rocks small school guy. 718 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 2: NOW on my radar i thought he did, a great job. 719 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 2: Today like really fantastic he's. Moving FROM tackle, guard but 720 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 2: i THOUGHT like, that's an nfl player, maybe a rotational 721 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 2: GUY but that's an nfl prospect and. 722 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 3: So in what way in the size and the. Movement, 723 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 3: in the, attitude. 724 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, the size the movement like how he's he was, 725 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 2: out to practice early like so just a little, bit, of, 726 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 2: all this yeah yeah a. Little bit all stuff and 727 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 2: again like he's, from a small, school so you're like 728 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 2: what are you gonna? 729 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: Get from? 730 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 2: This guy RIGHT right and so i think like that 731 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 2: was something that really. WAS cool to see i always 732 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 2: love when a small school guy comes and it doesn't 733 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 2: look like it's. Too big for him and so he 734 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 2: was a guy that that fit that. Bill one hundred 735 00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,239 Speaker 2: percent and then The TWO kids FROM texas a and m, 736 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 2: On The defense Line ALBERT regis FROM texas A and 737 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 2: M and tyler on Demi excuse me on demi really 738 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 2: was more impressive because he was again, nowhere on, the, 739 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 2: radar but explosive physical understood leverages. In the run GAME 740 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 2: and again like. I didn't there weren't they weren't on 741 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 2: the sheet that we Originally Got. For the shrine bowl 742 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 2: they were. Kind of laid ads and to see those 743 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 2: guys come out and play, the way they did especially 744 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 2: because they played late into The Season With, THE college 745 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 2: football playoff i thought those guys on the tior really 746 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 2: deserved a shout out from the. 747 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: From, the west. Roster yeah Absolutely so and. 748 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 2: Then i'm just trying to look this over one more 749 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 2: time see if there's anybody from this morning that. Had a, 750 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 2: good day, BUT yeah those guys i mean THOSE guys 751 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 2: really so i think the Tight Ends OBVIOUSLY obviously, jack 752 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 2: injuries i thought had a really good day blocking and, 753 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 2: then catching the. Football showing Natural hands Eli Raid on 754 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 2: from notre dame also again came IN way, lighter than 755 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 2: i thought. 756 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,719 Speaker 1: LIKE two forty four i think he's listed, to sixty 757 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: five but moved A lot better. 758 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 2: Than i was expecting and then my dark horse at 759 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 2: the tight end position is Actually The, kid From mississippi 760 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 2: State sayd trey or a is like. A converted wide, 761 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 2: out he's six,' three he's two thirty so kind of 762 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 2: this slash IN between did not lose a one on, 763 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 2: One was an impeccable condition like we went one from, 764 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 2: one from one on ones team drills two special teams 765 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 2: and covered, every kick with great intensity showed enough physicality 766 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 2: in the run game we say maybe this could. Work, 767 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 2: in the, right situation right and again just a mismatch, 768 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 2: weapon that has some upside which was great to see 769 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 2: a guy that's kind of. KICKED around a little bit 770 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 2: I Think it was at arkansas state for A Little 771 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 2: bit and now missippy state and now. GETTING ready for 772 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 2: the league a guy like with with a skill set 773 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 2: that is, very valuable in the league. Very valuable to 774 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 2: the commanders potentially have. 775 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: A really. 776 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 3: Solid, first day that's, awesome good great, first day. 777 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: Great first day. Great, day great first day. 778 00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 3: Yeah and unfortunately we. Won't, be able to stay yeah 779 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 3: me into. Our fastest forty for today our fastest forty 780 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 3: is how quickly Can we? Get out of texas already so. 781 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: Here, WE go starting now yeah, i mean we. Gotta 782 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: hurt we gotta. 783 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 3: Go the ice is coming our best wish is to 784 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 3: everybody who Is, sticking around here in texas sticking It. 785 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 3: Through the people of texas just good luck with the. 786 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 3: Ice that's coming through here we're going TO go up 787 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 3: to the dmv get. Into our, own little snowstorm. That's 788 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 3: yeah there it is we'll Have, a recap show on monday. 789 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 2: And again if there's anybody you, guys want, us to 790 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 2: watch oh. Yeah, Please leave A comment. 791 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 3: Yeap and and, I have gone. Through them i got 792 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 3: them we will. Do like a mail bag once we 793 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 3: get out a shrine senior, ball with all these guys 794 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 3: and we'll make sure that we. Get them all in 795 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 3: there so please leave them, if, you already left them 796 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 3: like we, haven't TALKED about them. Yet but i, GOT them. They're. 797 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 3: Written down, I promise yeah so uh. 798 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 2: I think, that's that's it that's it