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Find a forest 11 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: near you and start exploring at Discover the Forest dot org, 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: brought to you by the United States Forest Service and 13 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: the AD Council. Welcome to money making Conversations. It's the 14 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: show that she has the secrets of success experience firsthand 15 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: by marketing a Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know 16 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: he's given me advice on many occasions. Indication didn't notice. 17 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: I'm not broke. You know he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs, 18 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: and industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do. 19 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: It's what he likes to share. Now it's time to 20 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: hear from my man, Rashan McDonald money Making Conversations. Here 21 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: we go. Welcome to Money Making Conversation. I am your host, 22 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald. It's time to stop reading other people's success 23 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: stories and really start writing your own. Now. You can 24 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: be motivated by their success because their stories can offer 25 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: direction and help you reach your goals, to your plan 26 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: and remember that and through your committed effort. My interviews 27 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: that I do on Money Making Conversations provide the consumer 28 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: and business owner access to celebrities that you might see 29 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: on TV or read about CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. 30 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: My next guest is an industry decision maker. He is 31 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: a celebrity, he is a CEO, and he is an entrepreneur. 32 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: His name is Kirk Franklin. He's a six time Grammy 33 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: Award winning artist songwriter and his latest album is their 34 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: claimed Long Live, Long Live Love, which is his thirteenth 35 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: studio your album. He released a new single and video 36 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: from the album Strong Guard this past summer. He's gonna 37 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: show to discuss something I'm excited to talking about his 38 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: new podcast, Good Words with Kurt Franklin almost like good News, 39 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: a new podcast series that work with people from every 40 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: cross section of life and who seek inspiration and empowerment. 41 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: Block this day in February and ninth. That's the date 42 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: everybody where. He's in conjunction with Sony Music Entertainment dropping 43 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: good words with Kurt Franklin on the podcast Please work 44 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: with the money making conversation. He's my good friend. He's 45 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: been in my life man since ninety four. I'm from Houston, Texas. 46 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: He's up in that Dallas Dallas Folk area, Texas. Boys. 47 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: Please welcome to Kurt Franklin. How you doing, Kurt? How 48 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: you doing man? Well, welcome to my new studio, Kurt. 49 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: I'm trying to do it. Man. I'm trying to step 50 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: up man in my game. Man. No, man, you look good, brother, 51 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: look good. You got a little flex happening in that 52 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: love it. Thank you. How you been doing man? You 53 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: know we're coming out of twenty going in one. We 54 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 1: talked about new podcast, but let's let's step back a 55 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: little bit and talk about because it sent me through 56 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: a lot of changes, tested my faith, tested my patience, 57 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: sent me through some emotional physical change that gained weight, 58 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: loss weight, and anxieties about the COVID ninteen, My family 59 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: and my wife. She still won't go to in a 60 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: restaurant out in public. She would take to go, but 61 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: did she suspectively coming into the house. So how did 62 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: it impact your family and the people who follow you 63 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: and seek your guidance. Well, once again, man, so honored 64 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: to see you and so proud to see you continue 65 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: to just really make impact, especially in our community. Uh. 66 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: To be able to give information that that that a 67 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: lot of times was systemically hidden from us. It was 68 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: part of the plan for us to not always gather 69 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: the information or to be able to pass the information, 70 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: and for it to be transferable uh into the boardroom 71 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: all the way to the block. And I think that 72 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: that's something that is so needed. So I commention what 73 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: you're doing. Yeah, man, the pandemic, especially the fact that 74 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: there was the word I use contemporaneous, Uh, several several 75 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: pandemics happening at one time, from George Floyd to to 76 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: to to to Um too, our mothers and fathers getting 77 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: sick and dying of the disease, to all the the 78 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: the political uprising against it and so um all of 79 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: those things took a toll on me in my family 80 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: because I have a young black son, and so uh 81 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: continuing to see this, uh, this this hateful narrative that 82 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: has been America's narrative for four introvieers. It's something that 83 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 1: can be very daunting, you know, and and it can 84 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: really be fatiguing. And so all of these things that 85 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: happened at one time and was something that continued to 86 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: pull me. I had to start going back to the 87 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: therapy myself. You know, I'm a black man that is 88 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: very proud to uh acknowledge and promote psychological therapy, uh 89 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: psychiatry for especially black men. But it was something that 90 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: we held onto each other as as a family, and 91 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: it put me in a position where my faith really 92 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: had to be something that was not just priest but 93 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: something that was lived in real time. And so that 94 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: was another chalice to really test me, to see how 95 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: much I believed and how ruded I was and what 96 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: I was preaching and so or seeing the doing so 97 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: is that I think that the battles were all intentional, 98 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 1: and I think that they were all um for our 99 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: good and to reset if we would allow it to 100 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: do that. Well, the beauty of watching you you know 101 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: a popular word in word pivot. You know, if you 102 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,239 Speaker 1: can't do it. I have how you do it virtual 103 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: and you know you put concerts together, you broke people 104 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: together united, you did the verses. I believe how did 105 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: all that play into you reaching your I consider you. 106 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: I'm part of your congregation. I'm part of the Kirk 107 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: Franking congregation. And I say that because I'm not I'm 108 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: not a weekly church goer. I might go to church, 109 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: you know, periodically. You know, I'm not saying I show 110 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: up on Eastern I showing I show up on New 111 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: Year's at Christmas. Sometimes I go with friends. But I 112 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: am a believer and I think I'm one of your 113 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: followers because the way you approach your teachings and that's 114 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: how I can use that word teachings affect me positively 115 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: and your music motivates me. Do you get it a 116 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: lot from people? Second? Say that question again? Please, I say, 117 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: do you get that a lot from people? How you 118 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: motivate them? Or a non church goers like me, you 119 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: know who believe? And I say that's a negative thing 120 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: to the church goers. No no, no, no, no no 121 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: no no no. Let me let me say that I'm 122 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: honored at whatever capath city to be able to do 123 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: life with people to to be able to be part 124 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: of people's journey for God to uh to loan me 125 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: words of music or whatever that I can borrow from Him, 126 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: to just be a catalyst. Uh. That's something that I 127 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: take a great level of humility and responsibility in UM. 128 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: And it was never my intent to try to do 129 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: something that would be left of center. That was that 130 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: was that was never my tempt. I'm I'm just really 131 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: uh someone that is very sincere by my Christian faith 132 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: as well as also uh addressing all the areas of 133 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: revisionist history that has uh sometimes white washed the African 134 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: American Uh sojourned through Christianity and what it was originally 135 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: and how Europe did not influence Africa, but African influence 136 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: Europe and uh this monotheistic approach to faith. You know, 137 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: you're really interesting out another show working with business manager 138 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: stephen A. Smith and you becoming You'll be making appearance 139 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: up on one of our shows. I don't know if 140 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: you know about it on that stephen A's World. And 141 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: I was excited that we were able to bring your 142 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: voice into the arena because you know, because Steve and 143 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: I have sat down and said, you know, that's a 144 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: voice you never see in sports, like from the perspective 145 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: of who you are and you're so unique and how 146 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: you approach you life, Kirk, and how you approach the 147 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: Gospel that I feel comfortable bringing you in that arena 148 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: because the way you talk, you just talking about a 149 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: regular person. I don't know. 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What does that mean? 206 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: Good Words with Kurt Franklin, that's the podcast What does 207 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: that mean? There's just so many bad ones that out 208 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: There's just so many words of negativity, There's so many 209 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 1: words of division. There's so many words that are lies, 210 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: that are that that is misinformation that people build their 211 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: truth upon, and so now truth becomes arbitrary, you know, 212 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: and and and so uh. Good words is something that 213 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: I'm hoping people will tune into to be able to 214 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: get exactly that A a word of information, a word 215 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: of engagement, a word of of of inspiration, so that 216 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:43,839 Speaker 1: they can be able to be entertained. I think that 217 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: that when you hear just just the tapestry of artists 218 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: and individuals that were interviewing, it's going to be very 219 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: unique to see their their intersection of culture and faith 220 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: and how we can help other people even invents. You know. 221 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: The beauty of this conversation's Dad. Okay, you know I've 222 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: seen you so many levels of greatness, of greatness, you know, 223 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: from on the stage hosting TV show. You know, I 224 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: love seeing you host TV You are you want the 225 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: little phenomenal host and I tell you that all the time. 226 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: I love seeing you on TV hosting. And and then 227 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: you got your own channel, you know and music chunel. 228 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: So why the podcast, Mr Franklin, You know you've got 229 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: all these other ways to communicate social media, You're a giant. Okay, music, 230 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: you're giant, got your own music channel. Why do we 231 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: need a podcast? It's just another extension of communication. It 232 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: is just continuing the conversation. Wherever people are, that that 233 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: wherever their ears, that should that should be the story 234 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: of the good news. That the good news should be 235 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: whatever people are, And so we don't wait for people 236 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: to come to us to get this good news. We 237 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: are ambassadors, we are we are soldiers. We we are 238 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: extensions of of His grace, his love and with good words. 239 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 1: I wanted to be a place where you can see 240 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: that you're not alone. I do think that there is 241 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: this dichotomy of what it looks like to be a 242 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: real person and try to hold onto real faith that 243 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: they don't always seem to be synonymous in people's journey. 244 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: And I hope that this podcast will allow you to 245 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: get interviews from other people that that that live with 246 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: that tension that try to maneuver through what what my 247 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: faith and my humanity should be and who should take 248 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: the lead, and what happens when it doesn't happen, and 249 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: and and how I'm gonna do with through that in 250 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: my career and being able to manage successible to manage 251 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: my own fears, my own anxiety. So I believe that 252 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: good words will be a a I pray a very 253 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: special uh place for people to come on that platform. 254 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: It's just a interesting thing about k I know one 255 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: side of Kurt. I know it backwards and forward. Now 256 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: there's what type of food this curve? Are you a 257 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: barbecue man? Or you are pizza man, a hamburger man? 258 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: Or you just shot? I like to stay in shape. 259 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: What are your key do? What? What are you brother? 260 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: What is I eat really clean? Try to eat really clean. 261 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: No Krispy Creme. No Crispy Creme. I haven't at Krispy 262 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: Kreme in a few years. But but but but but 263 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: now as I do have cheat days, I do have 264 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: cheap days, and in my cheap days, I do go 265 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: ham right. But but I think the problem that we 266 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: can all attest to that we we can, we can, 267 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: we can we can all be uh witnesses hallelujah? About 268 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: is that this pandemic, bro, this pandemic has messed up 269 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: everybody's food playing and because man, you know you're trying 270 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: to eat right. But you know earlier owning that pandemic, 271 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: when everything was shut down, it's like, well what am 272 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: I eating good for? I ain't gonna being from no 273 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: camera and so you just boom ate the whole grocer's 274 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: and now, okay, that's that. That's there. Now, how about 275 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: music other than gospel music? What R and B music 276 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: or rap music? Do you listen to? Kurt Franklin listen 277 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: old school or new school? I listened to everything. I 278 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: am a student of the craft. I listened to everything 279 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: from Jasmine Sullivan's new album to UH. I listened to 280 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: whatever Drake drops. I listened to whatever uh, Fred Hammond's drops. 281 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: I listened to whatever Yo Yo my drops. I listened 282 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: to whatever Adele drops. I listened to uh, anything that's 283 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: going to be either old Miles or snarky puppy. You know, 284 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: I'm I'm just a fan of music. You know. It's 285 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: a funny point by you get my car. Here's my 286 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: first three songs. Okay, because you know I'm old school, Kurt, 287 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: you know, relodies from Heaven. I gotta, I gotta you know, 288 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: I gotta have that that that if I get my 289 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: car by five o'clock in the morning coming to my office, 290 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: so that gets me on fire. Okay. Then I go 291 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: to rock Star by the Baby. That's that's my whole genre, 292 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: you know, my and so and so. Then I then 293 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: I go to Kim you know, uh and so so 294 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: and then I I slowed down a little bit more 295 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: with Anthony Hamilton's that's my first fourth songs in my podcast, 296 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: in my in my excuse me, in my in my 297 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: player on my truck. When I want to start rolling, 298 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: what would be your first four songs, Kurt, not putting yours? 299 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: My first fourth song, first fourth song mineus He's from 300 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: Heaven the Baby with rock Star. Then I slide into 301 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: Kim like Sharlene from Anthony Hamilton and my first four songs. 302 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: As I can't say that I am that that consistent 303 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: um in in that process. You know, it's some mornings 304 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: I'll listened to you know, a a a teaching podcast. 305 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: The first thing in the morning, you know, is I 306 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: may listen to some old school you know Walter Hawkins, 307 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: Uh you know, uh Undercracker or is I mean listen 308 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: to something to give me lit my way to the gym? 309 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It could be a Drake record, 310 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: It could be a a you know every being rock 311 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: Kim record. It could be you know, you know jay 312 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: Z record. There you go? You know? So so you 313 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: know it is that I have a I have a 314 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 1: big appetite for music man, and one doesn't win over 315 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: the other. Well, you know, when when we look at 316 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: good words for Kurt Franklin and then the press really 317 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: came out, they mentioned your interviewer for Real, you know, 318 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: just to give a sense of the type of talent 319 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: or celebrity level that will be part of the show. 320 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: Why is it important to for individuals like for Real 321 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: to not only discuss their faith but also tell the 322 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: side of the story that's not entertainment driven or selling 323 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: albums and movies or things like that. Why isn't that important? Well, 324 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: I think that's even more important now because there were 325 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: we are at this crossroads that in in American culture, 326 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: American society, and even in our belief systems, that that 327 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: that that these that during this pandemic is going to 328 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: change the trajectory of how people process what is real 329 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: and what matters. And a lot of times the people 330 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 1: that have impacted culture more than others may be the 331 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: greater microphone of how to be able to navigate through 332 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: those things, as well as being able to give another 333 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: side so that we can be able to start we 334 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 1: can be able to start fixing a lot of the 335 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: holes that have been in what people consider organized religion, 336 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: that we can pull down some of the barriers so 337 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: that we can be able to even uh uh even 338 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: try to articulate more misinformation that has been passed down 339 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: generationally to people of color. And and to be able 340 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: to also unpack the weaponization of Christianity, to be able 341 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 1: to uh to uh understand that Western Christianity and the 342 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: teachings of Jesus Christ are not synonymous necessarily and so 343 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: uh and and and then also how people maneuver through 344 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: their temptations of successful Gussie. There's trauma already being an 345 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: African American, but there's an extra layer of trauma when 346 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 1: you become successful. Success brings its own level of trauma. 347 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: When you say repoonization of Christianity, what exactly you referencing 348 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: in that and not trying to be negative. I'm just 349 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,479 Speaker 1: just trying to get a clear definition of what you 350 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: mean to say that. Oh yeah, well, well well when 351 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: you look at um, when you look at the colonizes, 352 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: everything was was was from the from the bibliocentric lens 353 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: of misinformation and revisionist history, where where where it was 354 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: weaponized to uh keep people marginalized, to keep people oppressed, 355 00:20:55,320 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: to uh, to even create a misogynistic tone to women roles, 356 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 1: even in Christianity. And so when you weaponize something, it, 357 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: uh you become a very authoritarian in your approach to 358 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: what God is, because God will be whatever it's beneficial 359 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: to the one that holds the weapon or or or 360 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: the tool that could be used for good or bad. 361 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: It's almost like fire. Fire is good for cooking, it's 362 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: good for being able to keep people warm and comfortable, 363 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: but out of control, they can burn down the city. 364 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,959 Speaker 1: And so that's what Christianity throughout history, from from the 365 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: Crusades onto the trans Atlantic slave trade, there were times 366 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: where where you had you even had chaplains on the 367 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: slave ship, absolutely had white chaplains on on the slaveship. 368 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: So so so that does not mean that there's something 369 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: uh intuitively wrong with with the message of Jesus Christ. 370 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: It's been something uh intrinsically wrong with a lot of 371 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: those that have been the microphones to be able to 372 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: proclaim that fing adoption of teens from foster care is 373 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: a topic not enough people know about, and we're here 374 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: to change that. 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Our imagination, our sense of wonder, and our 393 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 1: family bonds grow too, because when we disconnect from this 394 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: and connect with this, we reconnect with each other. The 395 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: forest is closer than you think. Find a forest near 396 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: you and start exploring. I Discover the Forest dot org. 397 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the United States Forest Service and 398 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 1: the AD Council. You know when I when I when 399 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: I talk about faith, the fifth song that I have, 400 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: all that I listened to him. We lost him in 401 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 1: a friend of our you and my uh something about 402 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: the name Jesus and you know um and I remember 403 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: when I interviewed I think the second time he was 404 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: on my show. I didn't realize you wrote that song. 405 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: He said, I'm sure, yeah, I wrote it, And and 406 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: that that you know, whenever I talking that that song 407 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: is so important to me, whenever you know somebody's down, kirt, 408 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: I sent it to him. Somebody has a depth in 409 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,719 Speaker 1: the family. I sent it to him. They don't know 410 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: how to find direction in their life. I sent it 411 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: to him, Um give us the thought process in writing 412 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: a song like that, and didn't get it produced and 413 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: having an amazing artist like him, you know, And it's been, 414 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: it's been. It's been remade by a couple of young 415 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 1: ladies and I've heard that version. I like their version too. 416 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: It was fantastic. And so talk about that process behind 417 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: that song, well, you know, it's not much of a 418 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: a headline story, uh the the the inception of that song. 419 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: It was just a song that dropped in my head 420 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: that I that I thought would be a nice moment 421 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: and reached out to Wrench Allen Um and men of 422 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: standard because I wanted to take the old school and 423 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: new school and brought together. And it was just so 424 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: it's a song God gave me, and and the genius 425 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: of Rant Saleen watching him coming to the studio and 426 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: to be so so much of a surgeon, like he's 427 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: a surgeon behind them like and and and to be 428 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: able to see him be uh so fluid in his 429 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: gift was a beautiful thing to the whole. And so 430 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: it was a moment that I'll never forget. And it 431 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: was and it was, it was it was a song 432 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: that would have never known at the time that would 433 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: have impacted people and touch people the way it did, 434 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: would have never would have never seen that coming. Well, 435 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 1: you know, I saw the story that rants came into 436 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: my life of BT Celebration of Gospels. You know Steve Harvin, 437 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: that was there every year with you guys, and it 438 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: was he performed on stage with you, And that was 439 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: the first time I heard it. Is it's something magical 440 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: because we hear music, but when you hear a song 441 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: from the very first word and it stays with you, 442 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 1: and it builds with you, and it takes you through 443 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 1: these emotional up and downs. And at the end of 444 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: that song, when I heard it lied in Los Angeles 445 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: doing that taping, I was in tears. And and it 446 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 1: wasn't a negative tearing. It was a positivity of of 447 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: of an awakening inside of yourself. Because I'll just tell 448 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: you something, Kirk. When I talk to you, man, it's 449 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: always you know, you're such a gifted young man. And 450 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: I say young because I'm older than you, and and 451 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: I say that because sometimes you're so humble that the 452 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 1: impact you make on people of all ages needs to 453 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: be under someways glorified because you change people. You change 454 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: the way I get up, You change with my family, 455 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 1: impacts my wife, she goes to church. I don't you 456 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: know my daughter gonna go to church and so. But 457 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean I I failed to believe in God lesser. 458 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: But I know that the story I'm trying to get 459 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: you allow me to tell it my way, and that's 460 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: what you're doing with UH. I believe when you're dropping 461 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,959 Speaker 1: this podcast good Words with Kurt Franklin, you're it's just 462 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: another expression of communication, like you saying, reaching people and 463 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: telling them your story and then sharing other stories, kind 464 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: of like when I'm doing with money making conversations, I'm 465 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: allowing them to talk a story, but in this lane, 466 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: And that's really important, isn't it, Kurt? Exactly? And thank 467 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: you again. And I'm just extremely appreciative to be able 468 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: to be part of just a a fragment of the 469 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: journey that people's UH lives continue to take them on, 470 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: and that the music has allowed them to be able 471 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: to see a greater God in the midst of some 472 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: of the deepest and darkest days that they may go through. 473 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: And and even with the podcast, it is there needs 474 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: to be so many different conversations that can happen at 475 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 1: the same time that that every platform does not give 476 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: you the freedom to have that conversation where there may 477 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 1: be more intellectual conversations that can happen through the podcast, 478 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: that may be a lot more foolishness that I can 479 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: have fun with and enjoyed din the podcast. And so, uh, 480 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: it just gives you a liberty that you don't have 481 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: on stage. It gives you a liberty then you don't 482 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: have in a recording studio. You are being able to 483 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: now engage a different side of a person's life that 484 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 1: they did not really see their faith that because you 485 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: know some people's faith a lot of times it's still 486 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: like a spare tire. It's something that they pull they 487 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: something they pull out when they need it, and it's 488 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: not the fabric of their daily existence. So they get 489 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: frustrated when they see it not work and something like 490 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: well where is God? God don't work? I don't see 491 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: And it's like, well, it's very difficult to be able 492 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: to tap into what God is and what he will 493 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: do if it's only a non one one situation that 494 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: he continues to be postured in. When it comes to 495 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: your life, and so hopefully that even good worse will 496 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: let you hear from other people that you don't see 497 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: in church all the time. You don't see in church 498 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: platforms give you a lens of where they are, the good, 499 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: the bad, the ugly in their life and where God 500 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: has stood in Wow. So we last year because of 501 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: the pandemic, you couldn't do your all do a festival. 502 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: How are we looking this year? I know there's Texas, 503 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: that's where you're based with the festival. How is it 504 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: looking at something you produce that you book it is 505 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: all out of your production company, which I love to 506 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 1: talk about. We talked about that last time. Becoming a 507 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,719 Speaker 1: true entrepreneur. Uh, controlling your destiny? How does it look 508 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: for oh man, you know we we we will see 509 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: where God leaves. I'm I have learned in my time 510 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: on this earth. You know will while I'm visiting, is 511 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: that you can make the plans, but God at times last, 512 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: you know, And so you have to make sure that 513 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: you are surrendering your dreams and making sure that it's 514 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: because here's the thing that I really believe about my 515 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: faith and again I'm not on your sure to try 516 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: to proselytize. I'm here because I am a product of grace, 517 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: of God's grace and mercy. That's the only reason why 518 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: I get to be part of great platforms like this, 519 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: you know. And because I'm cute, even though I am cute, 520 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: that is not what God what That That that that 521 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: that we have to understand man, that what we believe 522 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: should be transferable, That it shouldn't be something that just 523 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: stays with us and dies with us. That it should 524 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: be something that can be part of the fragment of 525 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: people's daily existence. And we haven't done that well as 526 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: as people of faith. We've only made Sunday Morning and 527 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,479 Speaker 1: a Sunday suit the epitome of what believing is. And 528 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: so I'm hoping that with everything that I'm able to do, 529 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: whatever God calls me for this year is that I 530 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: want to make sure that my dreams and our distractions, 531 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: and so that the only way to know how to 532 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: do that is to take my dreams and filter them 533 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: through my faith. We know the interesting you. I'm gonna 534 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: make a little shift here. Melanie Holt was on my 535 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: show recently, and uh, she hosts a show called Behind 536 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: every Man and You. On the show and it was 537 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: and you know I get I get access to everything. 538 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: Now you know I'm moving up in the food chain, 539 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: not Kurt. You know they get later early for everybody. Everything. 540 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: Now you're on there with your your beautiful wife. Just 541 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: like I mentioned my wife and how important she is 542 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 1: to me, how I was important to do a show 543 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: like that because behind every man tells us her story 544 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: and the impact that she has on your life and 545 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 1: that you have on your life and the faith as well. 546 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: Why was it important to do that show with your wife? Well, 547 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: it was just important for me for people to get 548 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: a chance, Like I'm always looking for moments to showcase 549 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: and celebrate this incredible woman who has always lifted me 550 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: up and everybody, uh not at all times. You got 551 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: a chance to see Tanny, and I want to be 552 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: able to celebrate her when when there's a platform that 553 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: comes my way. Is because I want people to understand 554 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: that I am what I am because of her. It 555 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: is God using her as the conduit that that that 556 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: that all his blessings slow. Because if I was a 557 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: single man, I probably would not be the most integral 558 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: or the most responsible because I would probably still be 559 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,719 Speaker 1: doing with single man at times do, and so a 560 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: lot of times when you live that life, you are 561 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: blocking the conversation and the covering that God wants to 562 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: give us, because he's not going to give you the 563 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: keys to something that you're going to drive into a wall. Wow. 564 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: Good works for good words with with Kirk Franklin. That's right, 565 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: just on podcast platforms including the Apple, Spotify, and Stitcher. Uh, Kurt, 566 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: thank you for coming on the show. Man. You know, 567 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: I always appreciate you man taking the time to talk 568 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: to Rashan McDonald man because uh, I know you're busy. Man, 569 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to I'm just trying to be thank you, 570 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: thank you, But you moreing that man. You inspire me 571 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: and that and that's why whatever you come on this 572 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: I gotta remind you. Man. You know, I know, I 573 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: know people look at me as being very successful, but 574 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: behind that success and like I said, in a certain situation, 575 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: there is a good woman. But they're also good friends. 576 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: And uh and your friend and I know that, uh 577 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: your music. May you may not be talking to me 578 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: as an individual, but brother, you've saved me a many 579 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: a day. Man, You've saved me when I'm on the 580 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: road and I didn't know where to go. You've saved 581 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: me when I've been down and thought I was the 582 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: only person in this world. You've saved me. When I've 583 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: been successful, You've saved me. And a lot of people 584 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: say successful, how can you save you? Because sometimes you 585 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: need direction when you're successful, because you don't have nowhere 586 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: to turn. And so that's the layers of life that 587 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: you've given me. Since you've been into my life, been 588 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: in my life, and I've been there. We've done TV 589 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: shows together, we've done concerts together, we've done radio shows together. 590 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: So I know the relationship we have is beyond just music. 591 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,240 Speaker 1: And thank you again for coming on Money Making Conversation 592 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: Man and again Franklin all major podcast platforms including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, 593 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: and Stitcher. Love you, brother, I love you too, King 594 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: If you talk soon, Man, Stephen A. Smith Man Steven 595 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: A's World. I see you soon, brother, Bro. Love you. 596 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: If you want to hear more Money Making Conversation interviews, 597 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: please go to Money Making Conversation dot com. All subscribe 598 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: to our YouTube channel. This is your Sean McDonald. 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