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I 18 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 4: will know he's given me advice on many occasions. In 19 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 4: case you didn't notice, I'm not broke. You know he'll 20 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 4: be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs, and industry decision makers. 21 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: It's what he likes to do, it's what he likes 22 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 2: to share. 23 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 4: Now it's time to hear from my man, Rashan McDonald 24 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 4: money Making Conversations. 25 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 3: Here we go. 26 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 5: Welcome to Money Making Conversation. I am your host, Rashaan McDonald. 27 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 5: It's time to stop reading other people's success stories and 28 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 5: really start writing your own. 29 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 6: Now. 30 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 5: You can be motivated by their success because their stories 31 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 5: can offer direction and help you reach your goals through 32 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 5: your plan and remember that and through your committed effort. 33 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 5: My interviews that I do on Money Making Conversation provide 34 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 5: the consumer and business owner access to celebrities that you 35 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 5: might see on TV or read about CEOs, entrepreneurs and 36 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 5: industry decision makers. My next guest is an industry decision maker. 37 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 5: He is a celebrity, he is a CEO, and he 38 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 5: is an entrepreneur. His name is Kirk Franklin. He's a 39 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 5: six time Grammy Award winning artist songwriter and his latest 40 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 5: album is their claimed Long Live Love, which is his 41 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 5: thirteenth studio album. He released a new single and video 42 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 5: from the album Strong God this past summer. He's going 43 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 5: to show to discuss something I'm excited to talking to 44 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 5: about his new podcast, Good Words with Kurt Franklin almost 45 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 5: like good News, a new podcast series that welcomes people 46 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 5: from every cross section of life and who seek inspiration 47 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 5: and empowerment. Lock this date in February ninth. That's the 48 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 5: date everybody where. He's in conjunction with Sony Music Entertainment 49 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 5: dropping good words with Kurt Franklin on the podcast. Please 50 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 5: welcome to the Money Making Conversation. He's my good friend. 51 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 5: He's been in my life man since ninety four. I'm 52 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 5: from Houston, Texas. He's up in that Dallas Dallas Folk 53 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 5: work period, Texas born. 54 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 3: Please welcome Kurt Franklin. How you doing, Kurt? 55 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 6: What up? Ken Folk? How you doing? Man? 56 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 5: Well, welcome to my new studio, kurk. I'm trying to 57 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 5: do it man, I'm trying to step up man in 58 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 5: my game. 59 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 6: Yeah man, No, man, you look good, brother, You look good. 60 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 6: You got a little flex. Love it, Thank you, love it. 61 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 3: How you been doing man? 62 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 5: You know we're coming out of twenty twenty going in 63 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 5: twenty twenty one. 64 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 3: We talked about new podcasts, but let's step back a 65 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 3: little bit. 66 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 5: And talk about twenty twenty because it sent me through 67 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 5: a lot of changes, tested my fate, tested my patience, 68 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 5: sent me through some emotional physical change that gain weight, 69 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 5: loss weight, anxiety. 70 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 3: It's about the COVID nineteen. 71 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 5: My family, my wife, she still won't go to in 72 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 5: a restaurant out in public. She would take to go, 73 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 5: but did she suspect of it coming into the house. 74 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 5: So how did it impact your family and the people 75 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 5: who follow you and seek your guidance? 76 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 7: Well, once again, man, so honored to see you and 77 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 7: so proud to see you. Continued to just really make impact, 78 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 7: especially in our community, to be able to give information 79 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 7: that a lot of times was systemically hidden from us. 80 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 7: It was part of the plan for us to not 81 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 7: always gather the information or to be able to pass 82 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 7: the information, and for it to be transferrable into the 83 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 7: boardroom all the way to the block. And I think 84 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 7: that that's something that is so uh needed. So I 85 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:09,119 Speaker 7: commention what you're doing. Yeah, man, the pandemic, uh, especially 86 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 7: the fact that there was the word I use contemporaneous, uh, 87 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 7: several coming, several pandemics happening at one time, from George 88 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 7: Floyd to to to to to to our mothers and 89 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 7: fathers getting sick and dying of the disease, to all 90 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 7: the the uh the political uprising against it, and so 91 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 7: all of those things took a told on me and 92 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 7: my family because I have a young black son, and 93 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 7: so uh uh continuing to see this, uh, this, this 94 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 7: uh hateful narrative that has been America's narrative for over 95 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 7: four hundred years is something that can be very daunting, 96 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 7: you know, uh, and and it can really be fatiguing. 97 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 7: And so for all of these things that happened at 98 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 7: one time, twenty twenty was something that continued to pull me. 99 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 7: I had to start going back to the to therapy myself. 100 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 7: You know, I'm a black man that is very proud 101 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 7: to acknowledge and promote psychological therapy psychiatry for especially black men. 102 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 7: But it was something that we held onto each other 103 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 7: as a family, and it put me in a position 104 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 7: where my faith really had to be something that was 105 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 7: not just preached, but something that was lived in real time. 106 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 7: And so that was another challenge to really test me, 107 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 7: to see how much I believed and how ruded I 108 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 7: was and what I was preaching and so or singing 109 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 7: or doing so. Is that I think that the battles 110 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 7: were all intentional, and I think that they were all 111 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 7: for our good and to reset if we would allow 112 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 7: it to do that. 113 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 5: Well, the the beauty of watching you. You know, a 114 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 5: popular word in twenty twenty word pivot. You know, if 115 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 5: you can't do it, how you do it virtual? And 116 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 5: you you put concerts together, you broke people together united, 117 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 5: you did the verses. I believe how did all that 118 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 5: play into you reaching your I can sid I'm part 119 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 5: of your congregation. I'm part of the Kirk Franklin congregation. 120 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 5: And I say that because I'm not a weekly church goer. 121 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 5: I might go to church, you know, periodically, And I'm 122 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 5: not saying I show up on Eastern show up on 123 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 5: New Years of Christmas. 124 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 3: Sometimes I go with friends. 125 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 5: But I am a believer and I think I'm one 126 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 5: of your followers because the way you approach your teachings 127 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 5: and that's how I have to use that word. Teachings 128 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 5: affect me positively, and your music motivates me. 129 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 3: Do you get it a lot from people? 130 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,119 Speaker 6: Say that question again? Please? 131 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 5: Do you get that a lot from people? How you 132 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 5: motivate them? Or are non church goers like me, you know, 133 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 5: who believe and I say that's a negative thing to 134 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 5: the church goers. 135 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 6: No no, no, no, no, no no no no. 136 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 7: Let me let me say that I'm honored at whatever 137 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 7: city to be able to do life with people, to 138 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 7: to be able to be part of people's journey for God, 139 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 7: to to loan me words and music or whatever that 140 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 7: I can borrow from Him, to just be a catalyst. Uh, 141 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 7: That's something that I take a great level of humility 142 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 7: and responsibility in. And it was never my intent to 143 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 7: try to do something that would be left of center. 144 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 6: That was that was That was never my tempt. 145 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 7: I'm just really someone that is very sincere but my 146 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 7: Christian faith as well as also uh addressing all the 147 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 7: areas of revisionist history that has sometimes whitewashed the African 148 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 7: American Uh, sojourned through Christianity and what it was originally 149 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 7: and how Europe did not influence Africa, but Africa influenced Europe, 150 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 7: and uh, this mono theistic approach to faith, you know. 151 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 5: Really interesting. I got another show working with a business manager, 152 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 5: Steven A. Smith, and you're becoming you be making appearance 153 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 5: up on one of our shows. I don't know if 154 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 5: you know about it now, stephen A's World, And I 155 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,679 Speaker 5: was excited that we're able to bring your voice into 156 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 5: the arena because, you know, because Steve and I have 157 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 5: said down and say you know, that's a voice you 158 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 5: never see in sports, like from the perspective of who 159 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 5: you are, and you are so unique in how you 160 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 5: approach life, Kirk, and how you approach the Gospel that 161 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 5: I feel comfortable bringing you in that arena because the 162 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 5: way you. 163 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 3: Talk, you just talking like a regular person. I don't know. 164 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 5: And like I said, when I'm talking to you, I'm 165 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 5: talking like I'm talking to a friend. I'm talking to 166 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 5: a friend that allows me to be Sean MacDonald that 167 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 5: I don't feel that I know I have flaws and you. 168 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 3: Know, I know how you know? 169 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,359 Speaker 6: Well, I think that what what what? 170 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 7: What is interesting is that for for there to be 171 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 7: even a conversation of what I do to be something 172 00:08:54,679 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 7: that has some type of unique uh too. It is 173 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 7: I think is very unfortunate because I believe that it 174 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 7: is the pursuit of every person. This says that they 175 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 7: subscribe to a faith, especially a faith in Jesus Christ, 176 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 7: which is about humility, It is about vulnerability. When you 177 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 7: look at the Bible, and the Bible that is a 178 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 7: chorus of misfits and and and and fail and like 179 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 7: failing individuals consistently, uh that were the backdrop of this 180 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 7: beautiful uh story of grace and mercy. 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Brought 214 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 6: to you by the AD Council. 215 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 3: Walkome mile in my shoes. 216 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 1: What grows in the forest? 217 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 3: Trees? 218 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: Sure? 219 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 6: Now? 220 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: What else grows in the forest? Our imagination, our sense 221 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: of wonder, and our family bonds grow too, because when 222 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: we disconnect from this and connect with this, we reconnect. 223 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 3: With each other. 224 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: The forest is closer than you think. Find a forest 225 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: near you and start exploring. I discoverthforest dot org brought 226 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: to you by the United States Forest Service and the 227 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: AD Council. 228 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 5: Absolutely good words. What does that mean? Good words with 229 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 5: Kurt Franklin, that's the podcast What does that mean? 230 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 7: There's just so many bad ones that are out There 231 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 7: are just so many words of negativity, There's so many 232 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 7: words of division. There are so many words that are lies, 233 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 7: that are that that is misinformation that people build their 234 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 7: truth upon, and so now truth becomes arbitrary, you know, 235 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 7: and and and so good words is something that I'm 236 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 7: hoping people will tune into to be able to get 237 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 7: exactly that a word of information, uh, a word of engagement, 238 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 7: a word of of of inspiration so that they can 239 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 7: be able to be entertained. I think that that when 240 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 7: you hear just just the tapestry of artists and individuals 241 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 7: that we're interviewing, it's going to be very unique to 242 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 7: see their their intersection of culture and faith and how 243 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 7: it can help other people, even in theirs. 244 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 5: Well, you know, the beauty of this conversation is Dad 245 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 5: double Okay. You know I've seen you so many levels 246 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 5: of greatness, of greatness, you know, from on the stage, 247 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 5: hosting TV show. You know, I love seeing you host TV. Yeah, 248 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 5: you want of most phenomenal hosts. And I tell you 249 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 5: that all the time. I love seeing your TV hosting. 250 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 5: And and then you got your own channel, you know, 251 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 5: and music chaunt. 252 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 3: So why podcast, mister. 253 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 5: Franklin, You know you got all these other ways to 254 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 5: communicate social media. 255 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 3: You're a giant. Okay, music, you're a giant, got your 256 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 3: own music champ. Why do we need a podcast? 257 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 6: It's just another extension of communication. 258 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 7: It is just continuing the conversation wherever people are, that 259 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 7: wherever their ears should there should be the story of 260 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 7: the good news, right that the good news should be 261 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 7: wherever people are, And so we don't wait for people 262 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 7: to come to us to get this good news. 263 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 6: We are ambassadors, we are we are soldiers. 264 00:13:55,040 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 7: We are extensions of His grace, his love and with 265 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 7: good words. 266 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 6: I want it to be a place where you can 267 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 6: see that you're not alone. 268 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 7: I do think that there is this dichotomy of what 269 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 7: it looks like to be a real person and try 270 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 7: to hold on to real faith that they don't always 271 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 7: seem to be synonymous in people's journey. And I hope 272 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 7: that this podcast will allow you to get interviews from 273 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 7: other people that live with that tension, that try to 274 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 7: maneuver through what my faith and my humanity should be 275 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 7: and who should take the lead, and what happens when 276 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 7: it doesn't happen, and how I'm maneuver through that in 277 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 7: my career and being able to manage success, but to 278 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 7: manage my own fears, my own anxiety. 279 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 6: So I believe that good words will be a. 280 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 7: I pray a very special place for people to come 281 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 7: on that platform. 282 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 5: Here's just the interesting thing about a curve. For I 283 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 5: know one side of curve. I know it backwards and forward. 284 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 5: Now there's what type of food is curve? 285 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 6: Right? 286 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 5: Are you a barbecue man? Or you a pizza man? 287 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 5: A hamburger man? 288 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 3: Are you just rashan? I like to stay in shape? 289 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 3: What are you keeto? What? What are you? Brother? What 290 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 3: are you? 291 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 6: Is? I eat really clean? I try to eat really clean. 292 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 3: No risk, No krispy Kreme, No krispy Kreme. 293 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 6: I haven't had christpy Kreme in a few years. 294 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 7: But but but, but but now is I do have 295 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 7: cheat days? Okay, I do have cheat days, and in 296 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 7: my cheap days, I do go ham right. But but 297 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 7: I think the problem that we can all attest to 298 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 7: right that week? We can we can we can we 299 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 7: can all be uh witnesses hallelujah? About is that this pandemic, bro, 300 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 7: this pandemic has messed up everybody's food playing and because man, 301 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 7: you know you're trying to eat right. But you know, 302 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 7: early on in that pandemic when everything was shut down, 303 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 7: it's like, well, what am I eating good? I ain't 304 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 7: gonna be from no camera and so you just boom 305 00:15:55,760 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 7: boom boom boom boom ate the whole grocers. 306 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 3: And now okay, that's that. That's there. Now? 307 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 5: How about music other than gospel music? What R and 308 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 5: B music are rap music? Do you listen to Kurt 309 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 5: Franklin Old school or new school? 310 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 7: I listen to everything. I am a student of the craft. 311 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 7: I listen to everything from Jazmine Sullivan's new album to 312 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 7: I listened to whatever Drake drops. I listen to whatever 313 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 7: Fred Hammond drops. I listened to whatever Yo Yo my drops. 314 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 7: I listen to whatever Adele drops. 315 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 6: I listen to. 316 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 7: Anything that's going to be either old Miles or snarky puppy. 317 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 6: You know, I'm I'm just a phantom music. 318 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 5: You know, here's the funny part about you Get My 319 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 5: car is my first three songs okay, because you know 320 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 5: I'm old school Kurk. You know, the melodies from Heaven. 321 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 5: I got it, I got it, you know, I gotta 322 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 5: have that. 323 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 3: That that and I get in my car by five 324 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 3: o'clock in the morning coming to my office. So that 325 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 3: gets me on fire. Okay. Then I go to rock 326 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 3: Star by the Baby. That's that's my whole genre, you know, 327 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 3: and so and so. 328 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 5: Then I then I go to Kim you know, uh 329 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,239 Speaker 5: and so so and then I now I slowed down 330 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 5: a little bit more with with Anthony Hamilton. That's my 331 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 5: first four songs in my podcast and my am I 332 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 5: excuse me on my and my player on my my 333 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 5: my truck. 334 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 3: When I want to. 335 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 5: Start rolling, what would be your first four songs, Kurt? 336 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 5: Not putting your my first four songs? First four songs 337 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 5: minus what it is from having the Baby with rock Star. 338 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 3: Then I slide into Kim. 339 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 5: Then then Charlene from Anthony Hamilton. That's my first four songs. 340 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 7: Is I can't say that I am that that consistent 341 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 7: and in that process, you know, it's some mornings I'll 342 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 7: listen to, you know, a a teaching podcast first thing 343 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 7: in the morning. You know, I may listen to some 344 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 7: old school you know, Walter Hawkins, you know, an under 345 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 7: a Cratcher or is I may listen to something that 346 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 7: give me lit on my way to the gym, you know. 347 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 6: And it could be a Drake record, It could. 348 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 7: Be a a you know, Area being Rock Kim record. 349 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 6: It could be you know, you know jay Z Records. 350 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 3: There you go, there you go. 351 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 6: You know. 352 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 7: So so you know, it's is that I have a 353 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 7: I have a big appetite for music, and one doesn't 354 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 7: win over the other. 355 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 5: Well, you know, when I when we look at good 356 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 5: words for Kurt Franklin and then the press relase that 357 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 5: came out, they mentioned your interview with Pharrell, you know, 358 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 5: just to give a sense of the type of talent 359 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 5: or celebrity level that will be part of the show. 360 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 5: Why is it important to for individuals like for Real 361 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 5: to no only discuss their faith, but also tell a 362 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 5: side of the story. There's not entertainment driven or selling 363 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 5: albums or movies or things like that. 364 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 3: Why is that important? 365 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 6: Yeah? 366 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 7: Well, I think that is even more important now because 367 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 7: there were we are at this crossroads that in American culture, 368 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 7: American society, and even in our belief systems, that that 369 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 7: that that these that during this pandemic is going to 370 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 7: change the trajectory of how people process what is real 371 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 7: and what matters. And a lot of times the people 372 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 7: that have impacted culture more than others may be the 373 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 7: greater microphone of how to be able to navigate through 374 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 7: those things as well as being able to give another 375 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 7: side so that we can be able to start we 376 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 7: can be able to start fixing a lot of the 377 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 7: holes that have been in what people consider organized religion, 378 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 7: that we can pull down some of the barriers so 379 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 7: that we can be able to even uh uh, even 380 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 7: try to articulate more misinformation that has been passed down 381 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 7: generationally to people of color, and and to be able 382 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 7: to also unpack the weaponization of Christianity, to be able 383 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 7: to to uh understand that Western Christianity and the teachings 384 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 7: of Jesus Christ are not synonymous necessarily and so uh 385 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 7: and and and then also how people maneuver through their 386 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 7: temptations of successful becaussy. There's trauma already being an African American, 387 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 7: but there's an extra layer of trauma when you become successful. 388 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 7: Success brings its own level of trauma. 389 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 5: When you say weaponization of Christianity, what exactly you reference 390 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 5: in that and not trying to be negative. I'm just 391 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 5: just trying to get a clear definition of what you 392 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 5: mean to say that. 393 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, well, well well when you look at when 394 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 7: you look at the colonizers, everything was was was from 395 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 7: the from the bibliocentric lens of misinformation and revisionist history, 396 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 7: where where where it was weaponized to uh keep people marginalized, 397 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 7: to keep people oppressed, to uh, to even create a 398 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 7: misogynistic tone to women roles, even in Christianity. And so 399 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 7: when you weaponize something, you become a very authoritarian in 400 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 7: your approach to what God is, because God will be 401 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 7: whatever is beneficial to the one that holds the weapon 402 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 7: or or or the tool that could be used for 403 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 7: good or bad. 404 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 6: It's almost like fire. Fire is good for. 405 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 7: Cooking, it's good for being able to keep people warm 406 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 7: and comfortable, but out of control, it can burn down 407 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 7: a city. 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I Discover Theforest dot org, 444 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: brought to you by the United States Forest Service and 445 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: the AD Council. 446 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 5: You know when I when I when I talk about faith, 447 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 5: the fifth song that I have or that listen to 448 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 5: h we lost him in twenty twenty, ad friend. 449 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 3: Of our you and MI uh something about. 450 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 5: The name Jesus and you know, and I remember when 451 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 5: I interviewed you. I think the second time you was 452 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 5: on my show. I didn't realize you wrote that song. 453 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 5: He said, sure, yeah, I wrote that, and and that 454 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 5: that You know, whenever I would you that song is 455 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 5: so important to me. Whenever you know somebody's down, Kirk, 456 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 5: I send it to him. Somebody has a death in 457 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 5: the family, I send it to him. They don't know 458 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 5: how to find direction in their life, I send it 459 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 5: to him, give us the thought process and writing a 460 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 5: song like that and didn't get it produced and having 461 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 5: an amazing artist like him, you know, and it's been 462 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 5: it's been been remade by a couple of young ladies 463 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 5: and I've heard that version. I liked that version too. 464 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 5: It was fantastic. And so talk about that process behind 465 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 5: that song. 466 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 7: Well, you know, it's not much of a a headline story, uh, 467 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 7: the the the inception of that song. It was just 468 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 7: a song that dropped in my head that I that 469 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 7: I thought could be a nice moment and reached out 470 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 7: to Ranch Allen and men a standard because I went 471 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 7: to take the old school and new school and brought 472 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 7: together and it was just so it's a song God 473 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 7: gave me, and and the genius of Rant Salen watching 474 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 7: him come into the studio and to be so so 475 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 7: much of a surgeon, like he's a surgeon behind him, 476 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 7: and and and to be able to see him be 477 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,960 Speaker 7: so fluid in his gift was a beautiful thing to behold. 478 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 7: And so it was a moment that I'll never forget. 479 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 7: And it was and it was it was a It 480 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 7: was a song that I would have never known at 481 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 7: the time that would have impacted people and touch people 482 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 7: the way it did, would have never would have never 483 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 7: seen that coming. 484 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 5: Well, you know, I saw the story that rants came 485 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 5: to my life of BT Celebration of Gospels. You know 486 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 5: Steve Harvin, that was there every year with you guys, 487 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 5: and it was all he performed on stage with you. 488 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 5: And that was the first time I heard it is 489 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,719 Speaker 5: it's something magical because we hear music alone. But when 490 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 5: you hear a song from the very first word and 491 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 5: it stays with you, and it builds with you, and it. 492 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 3: Takes you through these emotional up and downs. 493 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 5: And at the end of that song, when I heard 494 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 5: it Lied and Los Angeles doing that taping, I was 495 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 5: in tears. And it wasn't a negative tearing. It was 496 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 5: a positivity of an awakening side of yourself. Because I 497 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 5: will just tell you something, Kurt, when I talk to you, man, 498 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 5: it's always you know, you're such a gifted young man. 499 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 5: And I say young because I'm older than you. And 500 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 5: I say that because sometimes you're so humble that the 501 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 5: impact you make on people of all ages needs to be, 502 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 5: under some words, glorified, because you change people, You change 503 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 5: the way I get up you change it with my 504 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 5: family impacts my wife, she goes to church. I don't 505 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 5: you know, my daughter goes to church and so. But 506 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 5: that doesn't mean I failed to believe in God lesser. 507 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 5: But I know that the story I'm trying to get 508 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 5: you allow me to tell it my way, and that's 509 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 5: what you're doing with I believe when you dropping this 510 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 5: podcast good Words with Kurt Franklin, it's just another expression 511 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 5: of communication, like you said, reaching people and telling them 512 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 5: your story and then sharing other stories, kind of like 513 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 5: what I'm doing with money making conversations. I'm allowing them 514 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 5: to talk a story, but in this lane, and that's 515 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 5: really important, isn't. 516 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 6: It, Kurt? Exactly? And thank you again. 517 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 7: And I'm just extremely appreciative to be able to be 518 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 7: part of just a fragment of the journey that people's 519 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 7: lives continue to take them on, and that the music 520 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,719 Speaker 7: has allowed them to be able to see a greater 521 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 7: God in the midst of some of the deepest and 522 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 7: darkest days that they may go through. And even with 523 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 7: the podcast, it is there needs to be so many 524 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 7: different conversations that can happen at the same time that 525 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 7: every platform does not give you the freedom to have 526 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 7: that conversation where there may be more intellectual conversations that 527 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 7: can happen through the podcast. That may be a lot 528 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 7: more foolishness that I can have fun with and enjoy 529 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 7: during the podcast. 530 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 6: And so. 531 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 7: It just gives you a liberty that you don't have 532 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 7: on stage. It gives you liberty then you don't have 533 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 7: in a recording studio. You are being able to now 534 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 7: engage a different side of a person's life that they 535 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 7: did not really see their faith there, because you know, 536 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 7: some people's faith a lot of times it's still like 537 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 7: a spare time. It's something that they pull they something 538 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 7: they pull out when they need it, and it's not 539 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 7: the fabric of their daily existence. So they get frustrated 540 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 7: when they see it not work. And someone's like, well, 541 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 7: where is God? God don't work? 542 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 6: I don't see it. 543 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 7: And it's like, well, it's very difficult to be able 544 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 7: to tap into what God is and what he will 545 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 7: do if it's only. 546 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 6: A non to one one. 547 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 7: Situation that he continues to be postured in when it 548 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 7: comes to your life. And so hopefully even good worst 549 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 7: will let you hear from other people that you don't 550 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 7: see in church all the time you don't see in 551 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 7: church platforms, give you a lens of where they are, 552 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 7: the good, the bad, the ugly in their life and 553 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 7: where God has stood in with that. 554 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 3: Wow. 555 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 5: So last year because of the pandemic, you couldn't do 556 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 5: your all door festival. 557 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 3: How we look at this year? 558 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 5: I know there's Texas, that's where you're based with the festival. 559 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 5: How is it looking at something you produce that you booked. 560 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 5: There's all out of your production company, which I love 561 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 5: to talk about. We talked about that last time. Becoming 562 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 5: a true entrepreneur, controlling your destiny. How does it look 563 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 5: for twenty twenty one? 564 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 6: Oh man, you know we will see where God leaves. 565 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 7: I have learned in my time on this earth, you 566 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 7: know while I'm while I'm visiting, is that you can 567 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 7: make the plans, but God at times last, you know, 568 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 7: And so you have to make sure that you are 569 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 7: surrendering your dreams and making sure that each Because here's 570 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 7: the thing that I. 571 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 6: Really believe about my faith. 572 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 7: And again, I'm not on your shore to try to proselytize. 573 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 7: I'm here because I am a product of grace, of 574 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 7: God's grace and mercy. That's the only reason why I 575 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 7: get to be part of great platforms like this, you 576 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 7: know it. 577 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 6: And because I'm cute, even though I am cute, that 578 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 6: is not what got means, but that that. 579 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 7: That we have to understand man, that what we believe 580 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 7: should be transferable, That it shouldn't be something that just 581 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 7: stays with us and dies with us. That it should 582 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 7: be something that can be part of the fragment of 583 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 7: people's daily existence. And we haven't done that well as 584 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 7: people of faith. We've only made Sunday Morning and a 585 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 7: Sunday suit the epitome of what believing is. And so 586 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 7: I'm hoping that with everything that I'm able to do, 587 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 7: whatever God cast me for this year is that I 588 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 7: want to make sure that my dreams are our distractions 589 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 7: and so that the only way to know how to 590 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 7: do that is to take my dreams and filter them 591 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 7: through my faith. 592 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 3: Well know the interesting I'm gonna make a little shift here. 593 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 5: Melanie Holt was on my show recently and she hosts 594 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 5: a show call Behind every Man and You're on the show, 595 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 5: and it was and you know, get I get access 596 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 5: to everything now, you know, I'm moving up in the 597 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 5: food Chaine, not Kurt, you know, the late before everybody 598 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 5: and everything. Now you're on that with your your beautiful wife. 599 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 5: Just like I mentioned my wife and how important she 600 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 5: is to me, How I was important to do a 601 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 5: show like that because behind every man tells us her 602 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 5: story and the impact that she has on your life 603 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 5: and else you have on your life and the faith 604 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 5: as well. Why was it important to do that show 605 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 5: with your wife? 606 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 7: Well, it was just important for me for people to 607 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 7: get a chance, Like I'm always looking for moments to 608 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,719 Speaker 7: showcase and celebrate this incredible woman who has always lifted 609 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 7: me up, and everybody, uh not at all times got 610 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 7: a chance to see Tanny, and I want to be 611 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 7: able to celebrate her when when there's a platform that 612 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 7: comes my way. Is because I want people to understand 613 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 7: that I am what I am because of her. 614 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 3: Right. 615 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 7: It is God using her as the conduit that that 616 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 7: that that all his blessings flow. Because if I was 617 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 7: a single man, I probably would not be the most 618 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 7: integral or the most responsible because I would probably still 619 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 7: be doing with single man at times do and so 620 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 7: a lot of times when you live that life, you 621 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 7: are blocking the conversation and the covering that God wants 622 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 7: to give us because He's not going to give you 623 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 7: the keys to something that you're going to drive into 624 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 7: a wall. 625 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 6: Wow. 626 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 3: Good works with good Words with pop with Kirk Franklin. 627 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 3: That's right. 628 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 5: It's on podcast platforms including the Apple, Spotify, Stitcher. Kurt, 629 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 5: thank you for coming on the show man. You know, 630 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 5: I always appreciate you man taking the time to talk 631 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,959 Speaker 5: to Rashan McDonald man, because I know you busy man. 632 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 3: I'm just trying to I'm just trying to be a family. 633 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you. 634 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 5: But you more than that, man, You inspire me and 635 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 5: that and that's why whenever you come on this stow, 636 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 5: I got to remind you. 637 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 3: Man. 638 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 5: You know, I know, I know people look at me 639 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 5: as being very successful, but behind that success and like 640 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 5: I said, in a certain situation, there is a good woman. 641 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 3: But they're also good friends. And uh and your friend. 642 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 5: And I know that your music may you may not 643 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 5: be talking to me as an individual, but brother, you've 644 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 5: saved me a many a day. 645 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: Man. 646 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 5: You've saved me when I'm on the road and didn't 647 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 5: know where to go. You've saved me when I've been 648 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 5: down and thought I was the only person in this world. 649 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 3: You've saved me when I've been successful. You've saved me, 650 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 3: and a lot of people say successful, how can you 651 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 3: save you? 652 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 5: Because sometimes you need direction when you're successful, because you 653 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,479 Speaker 5: don't have nowhere to turn. And so that's the layers 654 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 5: of life that you've given me. Since you've been into 655 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 5: my life, been in my life, and I've been there 656 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 5: TV shows together, we've done concerts together, We've done radio 657 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 5: shows together. So I know the relationship we have is 658 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 5: beyond just music. And thank you again for coming on 659 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 5: Money Making Conversation Man, and again good origin for Kurt Franklin. 660 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,720 Speaker 5: All major podcast platforms including Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and Stitcher. 661 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 6: Love you Brother, Love you too, King. 662 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 5: If you talk soon, Man, step and a smith Man 663 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 5: stephen A's World. 664 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 3: I see you soon, Brother, I see your bro. 665 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 6: Love you, Love you man. 666 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 5: If you want to hear more Money Making Conversation interviews, 667 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 5: please go to Money Making Conversation dot com. 668 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 3: All subscribe to. 669 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 5: Our YouTube channel. 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