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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome again Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to Buck Sexton, Michael Berry. Merry Christmas, Happy

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Speaker 1: New Year. Hopefully it's not too late for me to

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Speaker 1: say that to all of you. I am back from

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Speaker 1: down Under where I went all over the place in Australia.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure I'll be talking some about that incredible trip,

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Speaker 1: but I am back just in time for all of

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Speaker 1: the chaos of twenty twenty four to begin. I hope,

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Speaker 1: like I said, all of you had great Christmases, great

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Speaker 1: New Year family, and I had an incredible trip returned

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Speaker 1: without being attacked by any crocodiles, by any snakes, by

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Speaker 1: any animals of any sort of danger.

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Speaker 2: Buck.

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Speaker 1: Although every body of water that we crossed over the

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Speaker 1: entire time we were in Australia, my kids all wanted

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Speaker 1: to know if there were crocodiles inside of that body

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Speaker 1: of water. We saw no crocodile in the wild. Felt

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Speaker 1: completely safe and met a lot of listeners all over

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Speaker 1: the place, a lot of Americans traveling throughout Australia during

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Speaker 1: the holidays. It was an awesome time. I mean really

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Speaker 1: just a really cool trip. I wanted to do it

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Speaker 1: my whole life. Never been long trip. I got back

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Speaker 1: yesterday evening, and so if I sound even less intelligent

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Speaker 1: than normal, I'm gonna blame it on jet lag.

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Speaker 2: But it was awesome, it it was a phenomenal time.

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Speaker 2: I'm so glad.

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Speaker 3: And you didn't find a funnel web spider and your

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Speaker 3: slippers one morning, but you know, they caught the largest

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Speaker 3: funnel web spider of all time, which is the most

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Speaker 3: venomous spider on Earth, which is in Australia while you

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Speaker 3: were there.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, I didn't even see that there was some

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Speaker 2: news going on.

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Speaker 1: The biggest danger, I would say was I managed to

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Speaker 1: step on coral and get a small piece of coral

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Speaker 1: in my foot. And I think that happened to our

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Speaker 1: friend Jesse Kelly back when he remember had like a

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Speaker 1: big piece of corn. That was a major issue. I

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Speaker 1: think in his in his foot it happened, was the

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Speaker 1: only problem. It happens to the Aldus Snow character. And

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Speaker 1: forgetting Sarah Marshall if you recall, oh, yeah, that's right

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Speaker 1: in his knee, which is rough.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: So I'm back ten days out, Buck let's dive right

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Speaker 1: into the picture as it exists.

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Speaker 2: We are ten days from Iowa.

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden is scheduled to speak at Valley I can't

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Speaker 1: believe this is real at Valley Forge, Pennsylvania, of course,

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Speaker 1: from Revolutionary War fame, to argue that our democracy is

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Speaker 1: at stake. He's then going to go to a Charleston church.

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Speaker 1: The law fair against Trump has been taken to a

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Speaker 1: completely different level than we've ever seen before, with both

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Speaker 1: Colorado and Maine attempting to remove him from the ballot.

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Speaker 1: The Supreme Court is going to likely have to weigh in.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into that, I'm sure as well. But on

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Speaker 1: the Valley Forge speech, which I believe is set for

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Speaker 1: three point fifteen, they were trying to put it on

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Speaker 1: the three year anniversary of January sixth, but I guess

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Speaker 1: weather has led to that being curtailed, and so now

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Speaker 1: they're doing a Friday afternoon speech about democracy. Here is

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Speaker 1: my question for you, Buck, does this register anymore? Because

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Speaker 1: you and I made fun of the January sixth primetime hearings,

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Speaker 1: Liz Cheney and her crew got all huffy and they said,

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Speaker 1: oh my goodness, our democracies at stake. And I think

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Speaker 1: it was at Cassidy Hutchinson who said, oh, my goodness,

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Speaker 1: like Trump tried to strangle the limousine driver, if I

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Speaker 1: remember correctly, and everybody lost their minds over that. And

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Speaker 1: it seemed to have some impact with independent voters in

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Speaker 1: the mid term election, even though Trump wasn't on the

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Speaker 1: ballot at all. If you did the polling afterwards, it

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Speaker 1: seemed to impact some middle of the road voters, particularly

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Speaker 1: in Virginia, in Georgia, in Pennsylvania, the places where there

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Speaker 1: were toss up Senate election is taking place. My thesis

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Speaker 1: I'm not surprised that this is their game plan, because

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Speaker 1: we know January sixth, then abortion is really all Biden

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Speaker 1: But does this register because it feels to me, going

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Speaker 1: to Valley Forwards while you're trying to put your chief

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Speaker 1: and arguing that you uniquely are standing up for democracy,

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Speaker 1: it feels discordant in a way, even that the January

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Speaker 1: sixth primetime political hearings did not, because at that time

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Speaker 1: Trump had not yet been charged. And so this idea

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Speaker 2: Do you think it will. What's your analysis of this?

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Speaker 3: Oh man, it's so hard to see it in advance

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Speaker 3: of what happens on the legal front, right. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I do believe that at some level they're hoping that

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Speaker 3: just the fact that there are these ongoing criminal trials

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Speaker 3: against Trump will add fuel to the fire of the

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Speaker 3: January sixth insurrection narrative. Because for a lot of people

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Speaker 3: who are more casual viewers of politics, you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: always amazed ABC News, CBS News, there are millions of

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Speaker 3: people who still watch those thirty minute news broadcasts correct

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Speaker 3: and and I millions, many millions are using.

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Speaker 1: It as their primary news source. That's not just that

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Speaker 1: that's what they do. It's not Look, if you turn

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Speaker 1: it on, you turn it on. That's that's you know,

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Speaker 1: that's that's your call for all the folks at home.

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Speaker 3: But I'm just saying that's where some people go for

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Speaker 3: their primary news to digest every day. And I just

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Speaker 3: bring that up because for those individuals who still have

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Speaker 3: some faith in that legacy corporate media for them the

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Speaker 3: notion of Donald Trump facing criminal trials, but also the

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Speaker 3: narrative of Joe Biden giving these speeches about the threats

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Speaker 3: to our democracy that may resonate enough. Remember it's we're

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Speaker 3: trying to really see who can move one or two

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Speaker 3: So you have this massive battle that is underway right

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Speaker 3: now for the twenty twenty four election, not just the

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Speaker 3: presidency obviously, also the Senate, the House GOP Senate odds

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Speaker 3: looking really good. House is going to be a real dogfight.

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Speaker 3: House is going to be tough. But you know, you

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Speaker 3: see all this playing out, and I think it's important

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Speaker 3: to remember it's going to be a very close election

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Speaker 3: no matter what, and you're going to see i think

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Speaker 3: a replay of twenty twenty in a lot of ways,

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Speaker 3: meaning that it's going to come down to very close

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Speaker 3: vote counts in these places. So you know, you don't

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Speaker 3: have to convince a lot of people who bring it

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Speaker 3: back to like the NBC News Nightly broadcast.

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Speaker 2: With who is it is? It's the weird Weirs. No,

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Speaker 2: it's not that.

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Speaker 1: That's yeah, I don't even know who The night cast

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Speaker 3: don't even know who CBS is or O'Donnell's. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's right, Wow, look at us. Lester Holt is NBC

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Speaker 3: in oral. Anyway, My point is, if there's six million

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Speaker 3: there are, Like, there's a lot of people that still

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Speaker 3: watch that. If you get you know, fifty thousand people

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Speaker 3: because they watch that and they see some New York

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Speaker 3: Times articles, you know, maybe that's all it takes or

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Speaker 3: five thousand.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: So it's very hard to tell whether that stuff will win.

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Speaker 3: But here's what we know for sure. There's not some

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Speaker 3: glorious record of achievement that Joe Biden can run on.

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Speaker 3: So what else is he gonna do? I mean, the

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Speaker 3: economy is at best, it's and this is I think

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Speaker 3: overlooking a lot of stuff. It's kind of eh, you know,

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Speaker 3: it's in economy and that's not good enough.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think ultimately the cost of goods is

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Speaker 1: twenty four because again, all of the inflation that you

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Speaker 1: Every time I go to a fast food restaurant for

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Speaker 1: did for our meal before Joe Biden became president. You

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of people out there that just have

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Speaker 1: the same reaction that I do. Things cost way more

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Speaker 1: Biden going and trying to go to the well of

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Speaker 1: January sixth again, and it's not just January sixth, by

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Speaker 1: the way, He's also gonna go to the Charleston church

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Speaker 1: where the crazy guy went and killed. I think it

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Speaker 1: was nine black people the black church in Charleston, South

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Speaker 1: years now, I think, if I'm not mistaken, Buck, nine

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Speaker 1: don't think that's really very represented of violence in America today.

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Speaker 1: Violence in America today is overwhelmingly coming from members of

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Speaker 2: It just feels to me.

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Speaker 1: Like Bien's game plan is to desperately scrape.

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Speaker 1: And try to claim that they're still open wounds and

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Speaker 1: Valley Forge, I mean, this is akin to what he's

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Speaker 1: Jim Eagle. It just doesn't actually register with the American public.

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Speaker 1: Which is why as we enter twenty twenty four, I'm

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Speaker 1: even more convinced Buck that there's going to be a

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Speaker 3: Ask you did your sojourn in Australia and you're chasing

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Speaker 3: of kangaroos, clear your head to where you realize that

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden is going to be the nominee, and we

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Speaker 3: can make that reservation for the most expensive steakhouse.

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Speaker 1: Now, I think I think that they are going in

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Speaker 1: They're hoping that the polls change in May and June,

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Speaker 1: I don't believe they're hoping that Biden is going to

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Speaker 2: Buck.

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Speaker 1: I was looking at the overall approval ratings. Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: has the lowest approval rating by a massive margin, that

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Speaker 1: any president has had, going back to Harry Truman, and

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Speaker 1: I think that it's seventeen under. And that's not a

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Speaker 1: golf score. That's not a good number. Seventeen under in

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Speaker 1: terms of his overall popularity, going all the way back

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Speaker 1: to Hairy Truman. For people out there who say, oh,

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Speaker 1: as we sit this particular part of his presidency. I

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Speaker 1: think they're hoping he's gonna come back in June and

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Speaker 1: he's not, I think they're gonna yank him. I really

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Speaker 3: I just thought that since we're talking politics and what's

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Speaker 3: next Wednesday. Iowa Caucus is happening next week, so wait

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Speaker 3: as my no, sorry, the following ten days from now,

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Speaker 2: Sorry.

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Speaker 2: But I thought this was interesting to see. You know, Politico,

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Speaker 3: The Beltway Democrat journal of the make believe elites.

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Speaker 2: Actually, or they think they're elite.

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Speaker 2: See this, Clay, They've.

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Speaker 1: I do think nineteen sixty eight, remember was in Chicago,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay, Travis Bucksexit show. Ten days until

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Speaker 1: Iowa Monday the fifteenth, the very first people will be

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Speaker 1: Is there any threat and or what would DeSantis have

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Speaker 1: I think if DeSantis can be within ten points of Trump,

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Speaker 1: And do you think Nikki Haley that poll that shows

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Speaker 2: So I think if DeSantis doesn't in Iowa, it's over

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Speaker 3: I think if he doesn't win Iowa, I think it's

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Speaker 2: So that that's right now.

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Speaker 3: I think, But without Iowa, I think it becomes very hard.

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 3: The Nicky Haley piece of this is also interesting to

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Speaker 3: me because the first of all, the clearly the donor

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Speaker 3: it seems some shift of GOP donor money from the

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Speaker 3: DeSantis camp to Nikki Haley, which she has been saying

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Speaker 3: very loudly and proudly from the debate stage in the past.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure next week she will get in some because

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Speaker 3: it's interesting. Right on the one hand, DeSantis will say, well,

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Speaker 3: you're meaning Nikki Haley, you're a donor class puppet or something.

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Speaker 3: She's like, you wish you were a donor class puppet.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is going to be the back and

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Speaker 3: forth that they have on that on that debate stage,

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Speaker 3: and then I think you get into the is Nicky

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Speaker 3: Haley actually a viable Trump VP candidate? Which is so

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Speaker 3: interesting to me because right now, the Trump faithful, whether

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Speaker 3: we're talking about influencers, campaign people, or just the base

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Speaker 3: that you see online and you know, calling in and

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Speaker 3: emailing the show to them, the idea of a Nicky

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Speaker 3: Haley vice presidency for Trump is like an unthinkable I

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Speaker 3: think Tucker even said he said this, I believe publicly

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Speaker 3: it would be a reason to vote against Trump if

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Speaker 3: Trump picks Nicky Haley as his VP. For most people,

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Speaker 3: that will all change and it will be seen as, oh,

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Speaker 3: they'll get it in a brilliant maneuver to bring the

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Speaker 3: donor class in and to unite the GOP. And people

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Speaker 3: can get mad at me for saying this, but let's

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Speaker 3: think about this for a second. I think we all

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Speaker 3: know if Trump did pick Nicky Haley, which I don't

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Speaker 3: think he will do, everybody would fall on line and

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Speaker 3: it would be like, oh, this is a brilliant maneuver.

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Speaker 3: So Trump's the true statement Trump ever said was that

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Speaker 3: he could shoot people on Fifth Avenue and his base

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Speaker 3: was gonna stick with him.

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Speaker 2: They're not going to break off. So everybody out there.

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Speaker 1: Who says, oh, if Trump picks Nicky Haley as VP,

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Speaker 1: then I.

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Speaker 2: Will never No, you would that.

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Speaker 1: I think whatever decision Trump makes for VP, everybody will

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Speaker 1: eventually get in line. And by the way, I feel

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Speaker 1: this way about the race in general. Right now, everybody's

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Speaker 1: chirping around. Everybody's angry that. You know, the Ron De

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Speaker 1: Santis people are angry at Trump, and the Trump people

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Speaker 1: are angry at Rond de Santis, and and then you

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Speaker 1: toss in Nicki Haley and and you shake it all up.

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Speaker 1: By the time we get to July and August of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, people are going to be over the primary.

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Speaker 1: I really do believe this, and I understand I'll probably

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Speaker 1: check my mentions if I jumped in there into the

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Speaker 1: into the swamp of social media mentioned, but.

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Speaker 2: I will never vote for Donald drump And there's like

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Speaker 2: tears running down their cheeks. It's like the uh.

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite memes have you seen the cheerleader

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Speaker 1: kind of shares that every now and then. Have you

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Speaker 1: seen that one? Oh, that's really really funny. It's I

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Speaker 1: don't know, probably like a sixteen seventeen year old girl

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Speaker 2: That's something wrong.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I said, I said, congrats on the

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Speaker 3: big come from behind when that Alabama had it wasn't Alabama.

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Speaker 1: I think I got emails angry about that. You messed

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Speaker 1: up who won the game between Alabama and Michigan.

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Speaker 2: I tried. I tried. People were like, leave that to Clay.

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Speaker 2: I was like, it's a message from Clay, but I

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Speaker 2: just delivered it wrong. Whoops.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, Yeah, I texted you and I said, man, it

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Speaker 1: was an amazing overtime game. Both the games are really

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Speaker 1: good for the for the college football playoff and UH

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Speaker 1: and you got the the outcome wrong.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Michigan and Washington play Monday night in UH in Houston,

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Speaker 1: which which should be a really good game, and both

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Speaker 1: Michigan and Washington won very close games in the playoff.

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Speaker 1: I watched that with my boys from from Australia, which

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Speaker 1: was which was kind of wild to be watching a

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Speaker 1: day in advance from from Australia. All the punters, by

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Speaker 1: the way, in college football nowadays are Australian, So there's

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Speaker 1: increasingly more and more interest in Australia in American football

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Speaker 1: than ever before because they have Australian rules football where

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Speaker 1: everybody has to be able to kick really well. A

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Speaker 1: lot of the guys are very good athletes, and basically

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Speaker 1: they've taken over the entire punter business in college football.

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Speaker 1: But to me, the peril to Trump is in New

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Speaker 1: Hampshire right now. I think if the Santa is within ten,

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Speaker 1: I think he'll continue. But the question becomes, is there

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Speaker 1: anything that can puncture the aura of trump invisibility inevitability?

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Speaker 1: That is, I don't think he's invisible, and I don't

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Speaker 1: think any of it. I think he could pick anybody

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Speaker 1: for his VP, whether it's RFK Junior, whether it's Tucker Carlson,

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Speaker 1: whether it's Nicky Haley, and everybody would end up getting

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Speaker 1: in line and say it's four dy chess, Which is

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Speaker 1: what kind of happens.

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Speaker 2: Trump's right about that.

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Speaker 1: Look, I going to Australia, trip of a lifetime, took

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 3: Eight hundred two eight two two eight a two on

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Speaker 3: the phone lines, and we've got a bunch of calls

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Speaker 3: coming in.

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Speaker 2: Uh, Vincent in Sacramento. You've got some thoughts on politics

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Speaker 2: for us? What's up? Vincent?

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Speaker 5: Hey, guys, I think the point that's been missing from

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Speaker 5: the discussion so far this morning is that you don't

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Speaker 5: actually have.

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Speaker 2: To beat Trump in the first two states. In order

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Speaker 2: to stay.

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Speaker 3: Credible and make it into a real race.

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Speaker 2: You just have to take away one of his two

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Speaker 2: main assets, which is his aura of invincibility.

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Speaker 1: Uh, you know, he's got other assets.

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Speaker 2: That's one of his biggest ones. And yeah, but you're

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Speaker 2: de vincent.

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Speaker 1: You have to beat him at some point, right And uh,

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Speaker 1: and if you don't beat him in Iowa or New Hampshire,

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Speaker 1: I think this thing's over.

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Speaker 2: I really do.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think either DeSantis has to beat him

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Speaker 1: in Iowa or Nicky Haley has to beat him in

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Speaker 1: New Hampshire vice versa, one or the other. And then

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Speaker 1: Nicky Haley's argument of well, it'll be one on one

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Speaker 1: against him in South Carolina if you were betting right now, Vincent,

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Speaker 1: do you think the state of South Carolina would vote

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Speaker 1: for Nicky Haley or Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: I don't have an opinion on that one. I'm afraid

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Speaker 2: I don't have the data.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I appreciate that. That's a it's always good

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Speaker 1: to say you don't know. Yeah, it's oddest, I don't think.

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Speaker 1: And looking at the polls, obviously there's no head to

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Speaker 1: head poles that I have seen in South Carolina that

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Speaker 1: are particularly reliable. I don't think Nicky Haley can beat

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump in South Carolina. So to me, the Nicky

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Speaker 1: Haley can beat Trump head to head argument requires her

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Speaker 1: to win South Carolina if it were a head to

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Speaker 1: head race, and if that happened like New Hampshire, I'm

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Speaker 1: putting a little bit on an island, so to speak,

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Speaker 1: because Democrats and independents can show up and vote, and

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Speaker 1: they don't have a real contested Democrat primary. And I

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Speaker 1: think there will be a huge turnout in New Hampshire.

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Speaker 1: So it would not surprise me if Nicky Haley beat

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump in New Hampshire. I'll put that on the record.

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Speaker 1: That would not shock me. It would be huge for

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Speaker 1: Nicky Haley. But then it goes to the next step

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Speaker 1: of Okay, you won New Hampshire, can you win in

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Speaker 1: South Carolina. I don't think Nicky Haley can beat Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump in South Carolina.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you can.

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Speaker 3: The people that are writing checks to Nicky Haley right now,

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Speaker 3: and there are a lot of them, for sure, because

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Speaker 3: you know, cash cash don't lie, right like the cash

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Speaker 3: is there twenty five million or so in the last

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Speaker 3: few months. Do they really think that she's gonna be

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Speaker 3: able to beat Trump? To me, the play must be

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Speaker 3: that she's gonna be in a Trump cabinet and or

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Speaker 3: be vice president, right that has to be Did they

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Speaker 3: really think she's gonna win?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I just did you see what I'm saying to write

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Speaker 3: a check? Like if you're writing a check at this

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Speaker 3: point for Viveake, it's just because you love the Vike. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 3: He's not going to be president, but you love the

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Speaker 3: Vike And I get it. Writing a check for Nicki

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Speaker 3: Haley to me if it's gonna be strategic and not

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Speaker 3: just some show of support because you feel so emotionally

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Speaker 3: connected to her, which would strike me as a little odd, but.

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Speaker 2: You know people are not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Again, what I struggle with is I

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Speaker 1: don't understand how Nicki Haley is going to beat Trump

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Speaker 1: head to head in the South. Nicki Haley is from

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Speaker 1: South Carolina, she is a Southerner. I don't think she

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Speaker 1: can win her home state of South Carolina. Now, there

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Speaker 1: could be a lot of drama, and again I'm not

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Speaker 1: putting it past her to win in New Hampshire. I

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Speaker 1: think if I had to predict right now, who has

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Speaker 1: a better chance of winning against Trump? I think Nicki

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Speaker 1: Haley in New Hampshire is the best chance that someone

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Speaker 1: has to beat Trump. My question is, again, when you

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Speaker 1: peel back and look at New Hampshire. You have a

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Speaker 1: lot of independence, a lot of Democrats who are there.

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Speaker 1: Nicky Haley is not beating Trump in Tennessee, my home state.

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Speaker 1: I will put down whatever dollar figure you need me

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Speaker 1: to put down. She's not beating Trump in Tennessee. She's

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Speaker 1: not beating Trump in Alabama. I think Ron DeSantis could

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Speaker 1: give a run in those states. I don't think Nicky

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Speaker 1: Haley in the SEC states and the places where I

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Speaker 1: live and where I know best, I don't even think

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Speaker 1: she can win her home state of South Carolina against Trump.

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Speaker 2: So again, it.

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Speaker 1: Does raise the the stakes if she gets into a

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Speaker 1: one v one in South Carolina because that's her home territory.

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Speaker 1: People there know her well. Am I missing something in

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Speaker 1: South Carolina? To people think that Nicki Haley could beat Trump?

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Speaker 1: You can call us, by the way, Sandy and Sharpsburg, Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: You wanted to weigh in on Nicky Haley's VP.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not for Nicky Hayley. My picks for Donald

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Speaker 5: Trump would be Lady Delvin from New York. He ran

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Speaker 5: against Kathy Pokel and really gave her a run for

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Speaker 5: her money. And I think He's somebody that really should

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Speaker 5: be checked into.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting. I haven't seen Lee Zelden talked about very much. Buck.

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Speaker 3: I mean's that's the first time I heard anyone say

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Speaker 3: it might be a VP. Look at Lee is Lee's

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Speaker 3: a good guy. I know him, and he did a

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Speaker 3: He ran a valiant campaign in New York and closed

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Speaker 3: the gap.

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Speaker 2: Obviously wasn't enough to win.

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Speaker 1: But may well have flipped the House because of his

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Speaker 1: success as governor.

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Speaker 2: That's in terms of getting Republicans to come out.

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Speaker 3: New York Republicans are the reason we don't have a

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Speaker 3: Biden unified government. Really New York, and actually California and

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Speaker 3: New York Republicans are the reason that we don't have

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Speaker 3: Biden with unified unified government in Congress. Look these Elden's

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Speaker 3: not in the conversation, I don't think. But it's an

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Speaker 3: interesting idea. Appreciate all ideas, and if we're wrong on

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Speaker 3: that one will obviously come back to it and say, Wow,

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Speaker 3: we were wrong on that one. Mark in Hershey, Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 3: home of the Chocolate Bars.

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Speaker 2: I believe what's going on? Mark a VP candidate? Why

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Speaker 2: not Donald Trump Junior?

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Speaker 1: We know Junior well, we should mention Junior came out

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Speaker 1: pretty aggressively against Nicky Haley. I haven't seen him. Have

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Speaker 1: you seen him come out very aggressively against any other

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Speaker 1: VP candidates like that? I have I have not seen

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Speaker 1: Junior came out and really took some swings at the

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Speaker 1: idea of his dad picking Nicky Haley as VP. I

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Speaker 1: think there's zero chance of of of that taking place.

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Speaker 1: Although if you really wanted to drive everyone insane, an

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Speaker 1: all Trump presidential ticket would would be do.

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Speaker 3: You think do you think a member of the Trump

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Speaker 3: family is going to run for the presidency again at some.

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Speaker 2: Point in the future. Yeah, I would bet that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I would bet that too.

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Speaker 1: I mean in the same way that typically you have

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Speaker 1: not lost when you bet on any family to decide

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Speaker 1: to run for the presidency once one member of their family.

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Speaker 2: Has been president.

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Speaker 3: Think about how much time goes into name recognition alone

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Speaker 3: in politics, and how how important that is, especially at

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Speaker 3: the national level and all the polling. If you have

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Speaker 3: one hundred percent name ID, you we're ahead of ninety

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Speaker 3: nine point nine to nine percent of people that want

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Speaker 3: to run for office.

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Speaker 1: So that helped, plus all the plugins to be able

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Speaker 1: to raise money in a rapid way. Right, You have

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Speaker 1: the entire infrastructure that your dad or your mom or

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Speaker 1: whoever was the political figure has created over decades, and

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Speaker 1: you just plug in a new candidate.

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Speaker 2: Don't sleep on Barn Man.

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Speaker 3: He's got like twenty years or no more like thirty

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Speaker 3: years to go, but he could run. That kid's like

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Speaker 3: six ' nine. I mean, I'm sure he could probably

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Speaker 3: dunk with barely jumping. This guy's gonna do some cool things.

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Speaker 3: So Barn twenty I can't do the math. What would

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Speaker 3: it be, Clay barn twenty fifty something. I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: I'll be alive. I'm not sure I'll make it there.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, by the way, we'll dive into

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Speaker 1: the craziness of Trump taking money from China and beyond,

728
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Speaker 1: how insane is all there