WEBVTT - Corinne Foxx ON: Coping With Anxiety & Being Kind Even When Life Isn’t 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.520 It takes a lot to share with your parents, you know, 0:00:02.680 --> 0:00:05.400 especially at that age when you are kind of starting 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:07.600 to really want your own independence. It's like, now I 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:11.319 have to lean on my parents more. And so yeah, 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:14.040 I mean, I think another thing. And this isn't just parents, 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:16.520 but this is like everyone is being like, oh, well 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:19.400 that's normal or that's you know, oh, everyone feels that 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:24.560 way in not validating someone's reality. I think that's something 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:33.640 I seem to be very detrimental for people. Hey, everyone, 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:36.840 welcome back to our purpose, the number one health podcast 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:39.400 in the world. Thanks to each and every single one 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:42.120 of you that come back every week to listen, learn 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:44.879 and grow. Now, today's guest is someone that we've been 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:46.720 in touch with for a while. I've been wanting to 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:49.800 speak to her and I couldn't be more excited to 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:54.800 Welcome to the podcast. Karen Fox an actress, producer, activist, 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:58.840 and CEO. She was the executive producer of the Netflix 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:02.560 comedy series Ad Stopped Embarrassing Me, which was inspired by 0:01:02.560 --> 0:01:06.040 her relationship with her dad, Jamie Fox, who also starred 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:09.000 in the series. She's also filming a key recurring role 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:11.800 for the second season of the Hulu comedy series doll 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:13.760 Face that me and my wife have been watching, and 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:16.320 she's also the co host and DJ on the hit 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:20.360 Fox television show Beat Shazam. In August twenty twenty, she 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:24.680 launched her own podcast alongside her best friend called Am 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:27.880 I Doing This Right? Which acts as a guidebook for 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:31.480 young people on how to kickstart their adulthood, which I 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:35.200 love listening to. Karin, Welcome to the podcast. Hello. First 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:38.240 of all, I love the way he said adulthood. How 0:01:38.280 --> 0:01:42.119 do you say? No, you guys say it the right way, 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:45.039 we say the right way. I'm not sure. I mean 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:47.200 I think so. Yeah, we had we had we had 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:49.880 movies named so, we had Kidulthood, Adulthood. Have you ever 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:51.520 seen any of these movies? No, I've never heard it. 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:53.480 They're actually really good. They're all about the street culture 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:55.600 in London. So oh no, I've never heard of it. 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:59.000 I forgot that. Yeah. I'm really happy when I get 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:01.720 reminded that I still have my British accent, oh, because 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:04.760 all my brit friends oh constantly teasing me that I've 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:07.600 lost it. Really no, I mean it's gonna it goes 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:10.520 far in America where like what British accent like I 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:13.400 could listen to you all day. Hearing that intro, I'm like, 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:16.680 can you read that to me? Every part? Please? Please? Well, well, 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:18.600 for me, it's the other way around, because every time 0:02:18.639 --> 0:02:21.959 I hear something in an American accent, it sounds authoritative, 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:25.240 It sounds like a ted talk. It's really because I 0:02:25.280 --> 0:02:27.800 grew up. I grew up when I stepped foot in 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:30.000 New York City. When I first moved to America five 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:33.040 years ago, I was like, I'm in a movie because 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:35.520 to me, everything looks like a set because I grew 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:37.720 up watching American talent. No, that makes sense. I mean 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:39.120 New York. When you go to New York, it really 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:41.040 does feel like that, like it really holds up. When 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:43.160 you come to La you're like, wait, like it's kind 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:45.919 of it's not as beautiful as there's some grimy areas, 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:48.480 or you're like, this doesn't have that magical New yorkness 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:50.720 to it. Well, you were just saying you love London. 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:52.920 I love. Tell me about your experiences in London. You 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:54.960 were there for a movie. You said, yeah, I filmed 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:57.720 my movie forty seven meters down Uncaged, which is a 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:01.280 shark movie. But we filmed in these huge tanks in London. 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:05.240 But London is mye what do you mean explain? Yeah, please, 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:09.840 So the entire movie is set underwater. First of all, 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:12.160 I lied to the director and told him I knew 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:14.000 how to swim when I didn't know how to swim. 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:17.760 And but yeah, they built these huge tanks where they 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:20.920 had these really intricate sets underwater, and we were scuba 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:23.280 diving in the movie. We get lost in these games, 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:26.919 and so we spent months under the surface of the water. 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:30.400 So we'd go into work at six am it was dark, 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:33.840 go underwater, see no light, then come up at like 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:36.960 eight pm. And I didn't see the sun for basically 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:39.720 didn'tee the sun for months. Wow, I know. And I'd 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:41.400 have like a little light in my trailer there's like 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:43.760 little UV lights because I was like, this is going 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:46.040 to like negatively affect my mental health. So I was 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:47.760 like I would sit in like roast in front of 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:50.640 the light at my lunch break. Wait, you actually didn't 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:52.600 see the sun. Oh No, I actually didn't for months. 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:56.080 And they did that as part of getting you into characters. No, No, 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:58.280 it was just because we had to shoot underwater. So 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:00.760 you go inside, you'd go underwater, you come out and 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:02.480 be dark. Then you'd go do it the next day. 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:05.440 And so it was like, yeah, I don't know if 0:04:05.440 --> 0:04:07.960 I'll ever shoot a movie underwater again. I feel like 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:11.119 I got my the taste of it from that. That's 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:13.080 that's the last time you lied about being able to swim. 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:14.920 That Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna be truthful. And it was 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:16.600 my first role. So I was like I'll do anything. 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:18.599 You know. You're like, oh, yeah, I can totally swim, 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:20.160 such a great swimmer. And then they throw you in 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:22.200 the tank the first day and you're dogging paddling and 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:25.000 they're like, wait, did we guess the wrong girl? Wait? 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:28.760 How how how quick is that learning curve? Because how 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:30.960 you when you're when you're swimming for your life, it's 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:34.680 pretty quick. It's pretty quick. Um No, I mean I 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:37.200 had to pass the swim test the first day. I didn't. 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:39.880 I didn't pass it. Um, And they were like, Corrin 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:42.320 and get it together. I was just dating my boyfriend 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:44.640 at the time and he's like a lifeguard, like a 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.280 certified whatever, and so he was like, Okay, these are 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:49.840 the techniques to use. He was sending me YouTube videos 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:51.320 and the next day I went and I passed the 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:53.560 swim test and they're like, Okay, you can now shoot 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:56.120 the movie. I love that. Yeah, so your boyfriend's like, 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:57.800 this is how you pretend to be able to do 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:01.119 front stroke, this is backstroke. It was literally treading water. 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:04.520 It was how to tread water video YouTube videos. Well, 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:07.600 I love that. That's amazing. What gave you the courage 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:10.960 and confidence to be able to say you could do 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:12.960 something and then figure it out? Because I think that 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:18.000 that mindset often works against us, like people have imposter syndrome. 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:20.760 I feel I can't do it, so I can't even 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:22.640 put my foot forward. What gave you the confidence to 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:24.480 say I can do that, I'll figure it out, which 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:29.080 you did. Um. I do suffer from imposter syndrome a lot. 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:33.680 But honestly, and it sounds tacky, but I really think 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:36.800 my dad was a big, big push in that, and 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:39.360 the fact that, like my entire life, he told me, 0:05:40.000 --> 0:05:42.040 I mean this is a big statement, like you can 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:44.400 do anything, and you are so capable, and like I 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:48.760 just heard that constantly, and so when I got offered 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:50.480 this role and I didn't know how to swim, I 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:52.520 kind of heard him like, well you can do anything, 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:54.080 and I was like, well, I'll figure it out. On 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:56.840 set which is what I did. But I really it 0:05:56.880 --> 0:06:00.680 was instilled this confidence that like I was bull at 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:03.440 a young age, and so I felt confident to do it. 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:05.880 What was your first experience of that when going back 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:08.960 with that father daughter relationship, Like when was the first 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:11.240 time you felt you were hearing that from him? And 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:13.520 what was the first few things you started doing based 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:16.599 on that? Um, I feel like he set up my 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:18.800 whole life, and you know, like when you're a child, 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:21.279 there's not that many things that you have to meet 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:23.479 in that way. I think a lot of that came 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:26.359 when I was dating in high school and things like 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:28.960 that and really instilling in me my worth and just 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:32.400 having like little petty high school you know, breakups and 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:35.320 being devastated in him, just being like there is no 0:06:35.480 --> 0:06:38.000 man that like can ever take away yourself worth, and 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:40.039 like do you know he always says do you know 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:41.680 who you are? And I don't think he beings in 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.640 my last name, but like in my essence and like 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.560 how powerful of a woman I am? And I just 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:49.680 felt that, I think specifically at that age when I 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:53.800 really needed like a male voice that was like giving 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:56.440 me that confidence when like you know, I had little 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:59.960 breakups here and there. Well, you are definitely a powerful person. 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:04.880 You're doing so many incredible things. You are producing, you're 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:08.200 an activist, you're you host your own podcast. Tell us 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:10.800 about what are you doing to balance all of that? 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:14.760 Because I find that, especially in you know, your generation, 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:17.840 my generation, there's this ambition and drive to do a 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:20.520 lot of things. Yeah, but when you turn it from 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:25.320 idea into implementation, things get real. How have you managed 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:27.320 to be able to dabble in so many things but 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:31.000 still you know, figure yourself out? Um, it was tough, 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:33.920 and there was Recently I realized, Okay, there's a lot 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:36.520 on my plate and there's a lot of different hats 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:38.920 I wear and people. I have to be the producer 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:40.080 and then I have to be the actor, and then 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:41.240 I have to be the host, and then I have 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:43.920 to be you know this that, And I realize, okay, 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:47.160 like I can't do all of this by myself. So 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:50.160 I actually this year got a life coach. And I 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:52.640 don't know if you've ever had one, been one, I 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:56.040 feel like you could be one. Yeah, I'm a life coaching. 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:59.800 We have our own certification school. Yeah, you're definitely like it, 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:03.600 but really, just having someone sit down with me and prioritize, okay, 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:07.440 like what do you want to accomplish first? And like 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:10.080 how do we get there? And making deadlines and making 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:12.560 I think it's just hard when you have so many 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:14.640 passions to figure out, like where do I start? And 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:16.600 it's easy to start a bunch of little things and 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:18.480 then not really get to the end of them. And 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:21.080 so I really needed that structure. So I meet with 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:23.760 her every week. We go over my priorities. We figure 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:25.680 out what days I'm going to do what. That's a 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:28.840 big one is scheduling in like I will send this 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:31.239 email at this time. I will do this because things 0:08:31.320 --> 0:08:33.400 back up, you know, and it's so easy to get behind. 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:37.680 So she's been a godsend and her plus my therapist 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:42.079 equals healthy caren. See I love that. So I actually 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:44.800 want to dive into that because I think, See I 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:46.440 love that. So I actually want to dive into that 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:49.200 because I think today we're hearing a lot about a 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:51.120 lot of people. You here say, well, you know, I 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:54.760 was speaking to my therapist and you just said, obviously 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:56.560 you've been figuring out life with your life coach and 0:08:56.600 --> 0:09:00.080 planning and scheduling. Tell me how you find therapists and 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:03.480 coaches help you personally differently, and and like you just 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:07.160 said now that healthy career equals there's my therapist, which 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:10.080 I love. What are they bringing to that's different from 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:11.760 each other because I think we're living at a time 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:14.960 where people are kind of becoming what I way therapy is. Yeah, 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:18.760 but I still feel like coaching is is an unknown art. Yeah. 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:21.439 I really didn't even when I went looking for a 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:23.959 life coach, didn't really know even what I was looking for. 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:27.200 I just knew I had this need that with my therapist, 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:30.080 you know, we go through trauma, we go through you know, 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:34.600 you know, my emotional states and how to overcome some things. 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:37.800 And then I felt like I needed somebody to help me, 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:41.600 not an assistant in a way, but someone who was 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:45.840 just helping me prioritize, you know, all these projects I had. 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:48.880 So I feel like there's like a type A type 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:52.240 B side too, Like my therapist is from my type 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:55.559 be creative side that's messy and all over the place, 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:57.680 and then my Type A side is like my life 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:00.240 coach was like, let's schedule and play on everything. Yeah. Yeah, 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:03.360 I love that. I've I've always seen it as therapists 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:07.360 help us make sense of what's going on, and then 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:12.200 coaches help us make things happen. Yes, yeah, it's this 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:14.839 idea of like therapists they help us unpack our past, 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:18.400 they help us untangle what's going on. They help us 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:22.120 really move on from our past, and then coaches help 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:23.920 you go. Well, where do you want to be? Let's 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:26.800 use your present to get there. And I you know, 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:29.199 I encourage everyone to have both coaches and therapists in 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:31.840 their life because I think that's a brilliant What even 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:33.600 urge you to go out there? Like? How did you 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:35.960 think about that? What was going on in your life 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:38.120 where you were like, I need help in my life 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:41.240 because I think asking for help or looking for help, 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:44.880 either from family or friends, sometimes we could even get 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:47.240 in our own way. I was speaking to a friend 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.880 the other day and he was telling me how someone 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:52.400 in his life just no matter how much he's trying 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:57.960 to support or facilitate, that person won't accept help. How 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:00.400 do you feel we can all open up to accept 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:02.320 more help in our life and know that it's okay 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:06.160 to one help. I think it's a self worth thing, 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:08.199 you know. I feel like a lot of people don't 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:10.719 feel worthy of help or don't don't want to be 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:14.640 a burden. And I think for me, I mean when 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:16.679 I was diagnosed with an anxiety to sort of at 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:19.480 age fourteen, I was the type of person where I 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:20.920 was like, I want to go to therapist, I want 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:22.600 to do workbooks, I want to like I was just 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:25.720 very much so like I don't want to be held 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:28.680 back by this, And so I think I applied that 0:11:28.760 --> 0:11:31.200 later on in life when I was realizing, Okay, I'm 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:34.920 feeling confused, I'm feeling lost, I don't know where to start, 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:37.240 I don't know how to finish things like now I 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:39.280 need a different form of help, and so I feel 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:43.440 like I was just someone who naturally gravitated towards that. 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:46.680 But I do think it's about feeling worthy and feeling 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:51.000 deserving of help and eliminating that feeling of being a 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:54.079 burden on someone else. Absolutely, I love that. That's such 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:56.240 a Topfulanzer, Thank you for that, because I think so 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:57.880 many people right now are going to be listening to 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:01.360 what you just said. And I'm that if you listen 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:03.520 deeply to what Karina said, that's going to urge you 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:07.200 to break through that. Yeah, And on the other side 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:09.880 of it, I think people love offering help you know, 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:12.559 people want to feel needed and want to feel purposeful, 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:15.600 and so you're you're also giving you know, people an 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:18.160 opportunity to show up for you. Yeah. I think giving 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:20.880 and getting up both privileges, right. It's like that idea 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:23.360 of if you have something to give and you're able 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:26.400 to give, that's an honor. Yeah. And and for someone 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:29.040 else to have someone to give that's ready to receive, 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:30.880 that's an honor too, and I think you forget that. 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:34.480 So I love that you spoke earlier about your father 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:37.080 and the advice he gave you and how that's kept 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:39.200 you going. But then you also have a show called 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:42.719 Dad Stop Embarrassing Me. So so Dad's on one end, 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:45.040 it's like, oh, Dad gave you this really good advice. Yeah, 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:47.480 and that's like, Dad, stop embarrassing me. How many times 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:49.720 have you felt both those emotions in the same day, 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.960 every day, every single day? No. I mean my dad 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:55.760 and I have such a funny, like yin yang relationship 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:59.640 where he is this like over the top performative guy. 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:02.000 He was drawing attention to himself all the time, and 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:05.280 I was more reserved and quiet growing up, and so 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:08.200 that was just this perfect storm for him to embarrass me, 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:11.360 and because he's drawing attention to himself all the time. 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:13.440 When you're a teenage girl, that's the last thing you 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:16.200 ever want your dad to do, regardless of if he's 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:18.079 famous or not. You don't you want your dad to 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:20.440 fly under the radar. And so we had all these 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:23.440 funny moments of like him doing too much or showing 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:27.960 up at my cheerleading game wearing like super tight clothes 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:30.560 and me being like, ah, that's so embarrassing. And so 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:33.319 we just wrote episodes and pitched it to Netflix and 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:35.760 they loved it, and so it was such a cathartic 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:38.280 thing for the both of us because at the time 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:40.880 I was really embarrassed. You know, it wasn't a joke. 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:43.280 At the time. When you're sixteen seventeen, it feels like 0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:45.760 the end of the world. So it was like full 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:47.600 circle for us to look back and like laugh at 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:50.280 these things that maybe at the time weren't as funny. Yeah, 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:52.400 I love that. The thing I love most about is 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:54.120 I'm not a dad yet, but I can imagine that 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:56.520 if I when I become a dad, and if I'm 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:59.240 lucky enough to have a daughter, then I feel like 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:02.760 I'm going to be I'm gonna be doing crazy things, right, Yeah, Like, 0:14:02.840 --> 0:14:06.000 what would be your advice to people that are about 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:07.640 to become dads of the warnings of one are the 0:14:07.720 --> 0:14:09.480 things that embarrassing one are the things that are good. 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:11.760 I mean at the end of the day that I 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:14.440 think that is part of your job description as a dad, 0:14:14.600 --> 0:14:17.920 Like embarrassing your your child. I think it's part of it. 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:20.400 I think it's a rite of passage for kids to 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:22.800 go through. So I don't really want to steer away 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:24.760 from it. But I would say in my dad's experience, 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:29.000 my dad was very He liked to play pretend he 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:32.840 was a bad cop with boyfriends. Yes, I can imagine, 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:36.160 and he's not at all. He's like unemotional. He's an actor. 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:37.920 I mean he cries all the time. He's like not 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:39.880 like that at all. But he loved to put on 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:42.320 the you know, I'm going to bring my shotgun, you know, 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:47.120 that whole thing. And that was just like, Dad, I'm learning. 0:14:47.280 --> 0:14:49.480 Just let me give me this vace to just grow 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:51.120 and figure this out. You don't have to fight my 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:53.480 battles for me. We have an episode on the show, 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:56.080 it's episode two, I think, where he goes like knocking 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:58.680 on the boyfriend's door with all of his friends, And 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:00.960 you really did that in real life to my high 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:03.120 school boyfriend. He went knocking on a store to try to, 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:05.000 I don't know, scare him off. I don't know if 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:08.200 you wanted to do. I was like, that's amazing. What 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:11.680 what do you think it is when as kids? I 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:14.760 feel like when we're growing up, we're sometimes we're embarrassed 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:17.200 of them, sometimes we're embarrassed for them, sometimes we're embarrassed 0:15:17.200 --> 0:15:19.440 for ourselves. But then as we grow older, I feel 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:21.600 like a lot of us develop a sense of gratitude 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:26.160 and yeah, and connection. Was there ever a time where 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:29.280 you felt you were bitter or resentful towards your parents? 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:33.360 Not for anything legitimate, but just as a young kid 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:35.520 growing up, were you really just don't how are you 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:37.600 able to overcome that? How do you think that healed 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:39.440 over time? When you you kind of like, oh, I 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:42.000 really wish they didn't do that something more serious, not 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:44.200 as funny. Yeah, and then how do you kind of 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:48.200 overcome that as an adult? Yeah? Well, my dad just 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:49.600 put out a book, but he talks about in the 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:52.160 book we went to therapy together when when I was 0:15:52.200 --> 0:15:55.720 in high schooler or maybe you're in college. Because we 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:58.080 were kind of butting heads a lot, I felt like 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:00.680 you really didn't understand me, and so I feel like 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:03.920 for me, I was really lucky because both my parents 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:06.680 listened to me and they were able to like, at 0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:10.400 least let me have my platform, even if they didn't understand. 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:12.640 And I think it's very normal as a kid to 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:14.760 go through that, like my parents don't get me and 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:16.920 they don't get what I want to do. And we 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:20.120 definitely had those moments where, you know, and it's funny 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:22.440 to say this, but going to college. My dad went 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:24.880 to college but didn't graduate, so he didn't really understand 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:26.440 like how impactful that was going to be for me. 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:28.080 And that was actually a point of contention for us 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:30.240 where I was like, I'm going to college and he's like, 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:32.040 why you don't have to go, Like you can just 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:34.760 get into the industry, and I was like, no, this 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:36.040 is what I want to do and I need you 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:38.440 to respect this, which sounds crazy to be telling a 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:41.120 parent that, but he didn't really understand. And those were 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:42.720 times where I was like, you just have to listen 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:45.520 to me. And then when I graduated, he was like crying. 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:48.040 He was like, oh my god like. 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Yeah, 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:44.440 And that's and that's how you also get to experience 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:46.280 that because I think about them, like, there may be 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:47.960 a lot of people listening going, well, I didn't get that. 0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:50.080 I wish I had that, And I'm like, but then 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:52.320 we can have that opportunity to go and be that 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:55.520 and and try and have that experience that way, so 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:57.560 that you still get to experience in your life. Yeah. 0:18:57.560 --> 0:18:59.439 And I mean I think that just goes to so 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:02.159