1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: Sports Radio Hour two. On this Meet Friday, Dan and 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: the Danna Stan Patrick's show. Chris Mannox, Senior NBA Rider 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated. He was at the Garden last night. He 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: will join us. We'll talk about the window of opportunity 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: for the Warriors, how much longer can they be a 7 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: great team? Also, what do the Celtics learn from this 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: as they move forward? He'll join us coming up. Also, 9 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:32,279 Speaker 1: is Steph Curry a point guard? I refer to him 10 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: as a points guard. He scores. I don't think you 11 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: can be labeled a point guard if you don't lead 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: your team and assist. I think Luca is more of 13 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: a point guard than Steph Curry is I think Lebron's 14 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: more of a point guard than Steph Curry. He's just 15 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: a guard, Hall of Fame guard. Is he a top 16 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: ten guard? You know? Chris Paul is the dinosaur and 17 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: he's the last of the pass first point guards. Stat 18 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: of the Day brought to you by Panini America, the 19 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: official trading cards of The Dan Patrick Show. In case 20 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: you're wondering, Celtics turned the ball over one hundred and 21 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: one times in the Finals an average of sixteen point 22 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: eight turnovers per game, the most by a team in 23 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: the NBA Finals since the nineteen ninety eight Utah Jazz, 24 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: who turned it over just over seventeen times per game. 25 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: That of the day, That of the day. Here comes 26 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: the stat of the day as stat of the day. 27 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: Stat of the day. Here comes the stat of the day. 28 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: Warriors beat the Celtics one oh three to ninety. Steph 29 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: finally the Finals MVP. Here's Draymond Green on Steph winning 30 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: the Finals MVP. You know, when you look at a 31 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: guy like Steph Curry to had a season that he's had, 32 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: to have the career that he's had, it's absolutely amazing. 33 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: Into staff that with the Finals MVP. I know he 34 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: said it don't matter, and it doesn't matter in the 35 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: sense of like, oh well he's not his legacy is 36 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: not quite this unless he gets that like that's garbage. Still, 37 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: Steph Curry's still an all time great. But to add 38 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: that to your resume as a competitor, you want that, 39 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: you know, and you know for him it's well deserved. 40 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: It's been a long time in the making. But he 41 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: left no doubt, left no doubt and he carried us 42 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: and we hear it's champions And I think that you 43 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: have to understand how the media works. If you're going 44 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: to talk about a topic, how do you continually talk 45 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: about that topic? What were you gonna say? Jason Tatum? 46 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: Is he ready to be a top five player of 47 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: you know in the NBA? Is he an all time 48 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: is he gonna be an all time grade? Is he 49 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: one of the best players? Like you're you're sort of 50 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: looking forward talking points? Steph Curry legacy if he wins? 51 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: Is he a top ten player? Steph Curry never won 52 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: a finals MVP. Those of the talking points you heard 53 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: the last two weeks, and that's what the media does. 54 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: We look for talking points. I look for other talking 55 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: points because I thought it was silly that if he 56 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: didn't have a finals MVP, that well, he can't be 57 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 1: a top ten player of all time. There's nobody like him, 58 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: and the history of the game, there's no team that 59 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: leads with a six two point guard or guard nobody. 60 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: It's really, really, really rare. Even when Tony Parker won 61 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: the MVP in the finals, he had a great team 62 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: around him. He had Tim Duncan, had Junobli. Now Duane 63 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: Wade had shock. Like Steph Curry is the focal point. 64 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: He's the leader of this team. He's the guy you 65 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: have to stop. Jerry West was under six four. He 66 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: won the MVP once in the finals. You know, Isaiah 67 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: Thomas was part of a really good team when he 68 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: was finals MVP. Steph did this and he you just 69 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: don't build around a guard, but they also build around 70 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: a concept. And that's the brilliance of the Golden State Warriors. Now, dude, 71 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: I like the KD years. No, I didn't. I appreciated 72 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: watching a great team win championships. But I enjoyed the 73 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: Warriors before Katie got there, and I enjoyed the Warriors 74 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: more when Kate. You know this year, and I disagree 75 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: with Steph Curry because Steph Curry said this after winning 76 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: the title last night about the experts when we started 77 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: this season. You know a lot of conversations about who 78 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: we were as a team and what we were capable of. 79 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: And clearly remember some experts and talking heads putting up 80 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: the big zero of how many championships we would have 81 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: going for because everything that we went through. So we 82 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: hear all that and you carry it all and try 83 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: to maintain your purpose, not let it distract you. But 84 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: you carry that weight and to get here. It all 85 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: comes out. So it's special, right, Steff. Just somebody slipping 86 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 1: the note, say up, there was one member of the 87 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: media thought we could win. But you know, Steph has 88 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: to understand because of injuries, they weren't around. They had 89 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: the fourth best odds to win the championships starting this year, 90 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: so it's not a long shot. It's just people forgot 91 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: about them. Also, people wanted to talk about the Lakers, 92 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: and they wanted to talk about the Nets. That's what 93 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 1: happens in this business. Is it right to talk about 94 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: the Lakers? No, because they weren't any good. But you 95 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: know what, people want to hear you talking about the Lakers. 96 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: What do you say about Lebron, What do you say 97 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: about Katie? What do you say about Russell Westbrook? They 98 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: weren't a good team, But that gets you clicks. Golden 99 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: State's not getting you clicks at all. Certain team Miami 100 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: Heat not getting you clicks. I said this during the 101 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: year I liked Miami playing Golden State in the NBA Finals. Well, 102 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: you're not getting clicks. If you talk about that, people 103 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: are like, yeah, Miami. He who cares? Yeah, all right, 104 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: Eric Spoelster gets another title. What Jimmy Butler gets a title? Okay? 105 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: But that's how it works. And I think sometimes the 106 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: athlete or the coach or the manager forgets that process that. 107 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: You know, people have to have something to talk about. 108 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: And you may question Steph Curry's resume. I don't, but 109 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: others do because you have these argument these shows where 110 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: you have discussion argument Steph is this no, he's not, yes, 111 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: he We don't have a taffy poll here, it's we 112 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: have discussion. But it comes back to what is my 113 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 1: opinion on these players or this team. This is remarkable 114 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 1: what we saw. It's remarkable what he's done. It truly 115 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: is Will they get the credit? I don't know. I 116 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: don't know if people care to give them the credit 117 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: they deserve, but they should with Steph Curry, with what 118 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: he's done, with the front office, with what they did, 119 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: you find talented players, and that's what they did. They 120 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: traded D'Angelo Russell, they get Andrew Wiggins and a draft 121 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: pick that's Jonathan Kuminga who might turn out to be 122 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: a really valuable team player off the bench. That didn't 123 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: make any headlines or like, what do they want with 124 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: Andrew Wiggins? But Wiggins comes in a number one overall pick, 125 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: but he didn't have to play like a number one 126 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: overall pick. They get Jordan Poole, like they just got 127 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: players that you put in there, and you go, okay, 128 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: Now we have a system. Everybody tries to emulate it. 129 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: Nobody can emulate it. Draymond Green stopped trying to be 130 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: a character and went back to being a Hall of 131 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: Fame basketball player the last two games. That's all I 132 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: was saying. And it wasn't one of those shut up 133 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: in dribble. It's just shut up and be a Hall 134 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: of Famer, that's all. Don't try to be something. You know, 135 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to be an instigator. I'd rather. Now you 136 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: might say, well, nobody's talking about him, Yeah, they probably aren't, 137 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: But if you look at what he contributed, you know, 138 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: he won another championship, He's going to the Hall of Fame, 139 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: and to me, those are the bigger, bigger storylines here. 140 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: I don't know how to quantify Steph Curry. Is he 141 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: a top ten player? They're just too many players. It 142 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: feels like we have fifteen players in the top ten, 143 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: and you know, I'm asked the question a lot who 144 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: is and who isn't. Who would you put in? Who 145 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 1: would you take out? It's hard for me to go 146 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to take Larry Bird out having seen what 147 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 1: that window was and how he played and how he 148 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: was revered and feared. I don't know if you look 149 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: at resume, you look at longevity, you look at ability. 150 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: I don't know that. Watching Magic Johnson, I'm hard pressed 151 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: to say, Wow, there's ten other guys better than him. 152 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: Tim Duncan has got an incredible resume. He didn't lead 153 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: the league in anything, but he always showed up bigger 154 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: in the postseason. Will did not. Bill Russell won all 155 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: the time. Kobe Shack did he do enough? Do we 156 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: hold it against him because as a big man, he 157 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: should have done more. Like there's so many different arguments 158 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: here that Kim allies you one, you're not even in there, 159 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: Kareem is he underrated? Like they're just it's a fun discussion, 160 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: but it doesn't feel like there's right answers in wrong answers. 161 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: Oscar Robertson and then ninety nine percent of the people 162 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: who talk about this never saw him play at a 163 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: high level when he was with the Cincinnati Royals. They 164 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: saw him in Milwaukee where he was a point guard, 165 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: a pass first, a leader on the floor and you know, 166 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: that mature leader that Luell Sendor needed and they won 167 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 1: the championship. Wasn't necessarily a great team, but the some 168 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: of the parts they won a championship there. Yeah, seen, 169 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: it feels crazy to not have enough room in the 170 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: top ten for a guy who changed the game. You know, 171 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: I think the game was played differently before and then 172 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: after him, But there's somehow there's not enough room for 173 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: him in the top ten. There's not many people in 174 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: history that you could say that about. Well, Also, putting 175 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: somebody in while they're still playing gets to be a 176 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: little bit tricky. Is the Greek freak going to be 177 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: a top ten player of all time? I don't know. 178 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: I'm guessing. Is Luca going to be a top ten 179 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: player of all time? I don't know, I'm guessing. So 180 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: that's why it gets a little bit tricky when you're 181 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: you know, kad Let's say Kadie in the nets win 182 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: a championship this next year. Now, all of a sudden, 183 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 1: is he above you know, Steph Curry. Yeah, it feels 184 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: like a lot of those people still have tons to prove, 185 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: whereas Steph has kind of done it already, Yeah in 186 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: a way, and he's still playing, but he's already at 187 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: least got the resume to back up talking about that stuff, 188 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: rather than like a speculation about maybe Lucas gonna turn 189 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: into that. You're getting no argument from me if you 190 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: want to put him in the top ten because he 191 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: changed the game. James in Virginia, Hi, James Wood's on 192 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: your mind. Oh, thank you for taking my call. Brother. 193 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: Happy Friday, DP Dan that salute the commanders. Man. I 194 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: need about forty five seconds here to unpack quite a 195 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: few things, man, But I want to start off by saying, 196 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: he gradulating to my niece, Jordan Man graduating from high 197 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: school today, three point nine seven gpa future hokeey Man. 198 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: Can't wait to see her change the world one day. 199 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: Says we're talking about legacy. Man. To me, the biggest 200 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: legacy drop last night was for Kevin Durant Man, and 201 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: the biggest legacy game was for Stephy. Now I'm gonna 202 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,359 Speaker 1: circle back to Curry. The rant Man was he elevated 203 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: by Steph Curry Clay Thompson and Draymond Green when he 204 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 1: was with them, because I started thinking, is KD more 205 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: of a fashioned killer of the score because that dude 206 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: is absolutely amazing, but not just a not a great leader. 207 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: And the circle back to Steph Curry. Man, he has 208 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: to be in my top ten and KD cannot. And 209 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: I'm only talking about the players that I saw, But man, 210 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: my question really is this, can Steph Curry overtake Magic 211 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: Johnson one day as a starting point guard in my 212 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: starting five? Because I got Magic, Jordan Lebron Bird and 213 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: I'm taking chat Man, I love a larger one because 214 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: he's in my top ten all times. James, thank you, 215 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: thank you. I Steph is not a point guard. Magic 216 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: is a point guard. Paulie, would you give me the 217 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: definition of a point guard like the dictionary? Yeah? Could 218 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: you find? Yeah? It says the player on the court 219 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: who runs the offense and distributes the ball. Okay, generally 220 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: that's the general definition. Okay, I found a couple of places. 221 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: All right. Steph is just a basketball player. We're taking 222 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 1: positions out of the NBA. I think when you look 223 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: at him, going, well, he's six two, he's got to 224 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: be the point guard. He's not. Alan Iverson wasn't a 225 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: point guard. They're points guards. They score points. Chris Paul 226 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: point guard, John Stockton point guard, magic point guard, Steph 227 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: curring out a point guard. Lebron's more of a point guard, 228 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: Luca more of a point guard. But we're positionless now 229 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:52,599 Speaker 1: and I'm fine with that. Uh. Let's say Troy and 230 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: North Dakota. Hi, Troy, what's on your mind today? Haven't 231 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: checked in a while? Okay, ignorance is bliss man. I 232 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: was really excited to hear the rest of James and 233 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: Virginia's starting five. Terribly stay he cut him off there. Also, 234 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 1: as R J. Colorado's former chaplain, I appreciate you taking 235 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: a dig at his math skills, as he does have 236 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: a masters in maths, so I appreciate that. The other 237 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: thing is, as I was watching last night, I was thinking, boy, 238 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: I think this is a celebration of Steph renewing his lease, 239 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: as the renewing his lease for the nickname of ruining 240 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: this league in youth basketball. Have a great weekend, Happy 241 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: Father's Day, Fritziel, Thank you, Troy. I guess just Fritzie 242 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: bo this day. I don't know what that's all about. 243 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: I will share that with the rest of you guys, 244 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: happy for his happy Father's Day. I don't think he 245 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: intentionally left you guys at where have you been today? 246 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: This is the first time I heard you. I've been 247 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: working on some stuff in my little corner over here. Okay, 248 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: if Friday Fritzie by the way, in case you're wondering, 249 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: it is a meat Friday, and uh, a little bit 250 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: of creativity with Tyler smoking tie curry chicken coconut rice 251 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: and uh Jason Tatum tots. Yeah, seedon we did. We 252 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: should have had Draymond green beans. Yes, seedon the you 253 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: know the like a night night thing that Stepp did 254 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: putting people to sleep. Yeah, yeah, he did that every 255 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: round of the playoffs this season. You go back and 256 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: watch the videos. He did it when they knocked the 257 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: Nuggets out. He did it when he knocked the Grizzlies out. Um, 258 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: who did they play after that? Uh? They had they 259 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: had Phoenix, Dallas did him Mavericks. He put him to sleep. 260 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: And then you know what I'm thicking Celtics sleep number? Hello, yeah, 261 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: sleep number. Your sleep number is four four Rick? Well, 262 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: isn't it is number thirty? Yes? Bloop bloop bloop. Sleep 263 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: number is thirty Steph Curry, Chris Mannox. I know this 264 00:15:58,120 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: is going to get into an argument. I know where 265 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: to get into an argument. Former Celtic ball boy. 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Listen, 303 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: I saw Steph hugged Dale Curry last night, and it 304 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: got me thinking, with fathers they coming up? Is that 305 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: the greatest father son combo of all time? I mean, 306 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: you gotta throw out Dale Junior and Dale Earnhardt, Bobby 307 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 1: and Barry Bunds, Bruce Matthews and those boys, Ken Griffith Junior, 308 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: Archie Manning and those boys. Want your take on that, man, 309 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: think about calling happy fathers. Thank you, Reggie, thank you 310 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: appreciate that. Yeah. Yes, first of all, I loved his delivery. Yeah. 311 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: I don't even know what you're talking about. But you know, 312 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: other sports like Dell Curry got to hug his son 313 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 1: before the game even ended, there's eight seconds left on 314 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:53,959 Speaker 1: the clock, like football and baseball, you can't do that. 315 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 1: That was awesome. Yeah. I mean Archie was a great player, 316 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: just played on bad teams. Dell played a lot, but 317 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: he was a he was a role player. I think 318 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: he I think people looked at Dell Curry and thought 319 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: that's what Steph's going to be. That just a guy 320 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: who was going to be a wing, catch and shoot guy. 321 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: And you know, I think what we didn't realize at 322 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: the time is Steph could create his own shot. Dell 323 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: was a wonderful shooter, but it wasn't a jump shooter. 324 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: It was like almost a tippy toe shooter. Beautiful form. Yeah, 325 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: seen the Matthews family, it could be in that conversation 326 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: of greatest father son sports star Yeah combo, Yeah absolutely. 327 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: Chris Mannock, senior NBA writer for Sports Illustrated. He was 328 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: there in the garden last night, joins us on the program. 329 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: When did you realize the game was over last night? 330 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: First quarter? First quarter? Yeah, I expected the Celtics to 331 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: come out with a lot of energy in this game, 332 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: and they did. But how the Warriors responded in that 333 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 1: first quarter told me everything about this game. They were 334 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 1: down twelve points at one point in the first the 335 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 1: crowd was into it, and then over like a three 336 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: minute stretch, the Warriors erased that lead and went into 337 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: the second quarter with a five point lead that they 338 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 1: would never surrender. So I knew then that, you know, 339 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: they had taken the Celtics best punch they had punched back. 340 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: Steph Curry was playing great. I just you just knew 341 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: right then and there if this was going to be 342 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: a tough night for Boston. Well, I wondered the Celtics 343 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: didn't play well, But how much of a role did 344 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: the Warriors play in the Celtics not playing well at home? 345 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: They played a big role because defensively, Golden States not 346 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:52,959 Speaker 1: as good as Boston, but they are tighter defensively than Boston, 347 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: if that makes any sense. Like they don't make a 348 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: lot of mistakes out there. Defensively, they're disciplined on that end. 349 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: They make rotations right every single time. And Boston just 350 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: couldn't find a way to break through, especially Jason Tatum, 351 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: who was you had what his worst game, I think 352 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,719 Speaker 1: are one of his worst games of this series in 353 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: Game six. They just weren't able to break that defense 354 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: because Golden State doesn't make mistakes. Now, the Celtics make 355 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: a lot of mistakes, and they did all series long. 356 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: I said going into Game six, damn, the Celtics would 357 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,239 Speaker 1: win as long as they didn't turn the ball over 358 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: at a crazy level. What did they do? Turn the 359 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: ball over at a crazy level? Twenty three total turnovers 360 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: in this game for Boston. That was a series high 361 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 1: for them. And they're just they're throwing the ball over 362 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: the gym, They're dribbling into traffic, the committing offensive fouls. 363 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: It just you know, Golden State beat them, but by 364 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: some measure, Boston beat itself with the way it played offensively. 365 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: The perception of Jason Tatum today is what, you know, 366 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: I think if Jason Tatum had played in this series 367 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: as he played in previous series, we would be talking 368 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: definitively as of Jason Tatum as like a top five guy, 369 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: Like we would be looking at him as the air 370 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 1: to Kevin Durant. Now because he looked overwhelmed by the moment, 371 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: and because he couldn't unlock Andrew Wiggins and that Warriors defense, 372 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: you're saying, all right, he's still a cut below those 373 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: top tier guys. I mean, this was the best season 374 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: of Tatum's career all NBA First Team, Top six and 375 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: MV balloting. But after watching these finals, you know, he's 376 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: got a ways to go, or at least a little 377 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: ways to go before he cracks into that top five 378 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: six players in the NBA. Yeah, he needs to develop 379 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 1: his game, He needs to make better decisions, He needs 380 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: to not settle for threes. You know, watching Jordan and 381 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: Kobe develop a post game, you know, I think that 382 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: would be really beneficial for him. I know we keep 383 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: saying he's only twenty four, but he's got a lot 384 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: of any NBA experience for somebody who's only twenty four. 385 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: The perception of Steph Curry today is what I think. 386 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: You have to look at Steph Curry as a top 387 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 1: ten player all time, and I think that's because of 388 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: the outcome of this series. Andrec Goddala said something at 389 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: the press conference last night that was kind of a 390 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: throwaway line in the moment. He called step the best 391 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: point guard of all time, and that as you think 392 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,479 Speaker 1: about it in hindsight, like, all right, you're saying steps 393 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: better than Magic, but then you kind of sort of 394 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: stack them up and you can make a legitimate argument. 395 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: But he's on a point guard. He's he's different, he's 396 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: a different point guard. Now he's a points guard. He's 397 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 1: Magic's a point guard. Steps a points guard. He scored? 398 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: All right? So does sorry? So okay, so does Luca 399 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 1: is more of a point guard than Steph is. I 400 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know what the assist numbers are. Like. Look, 401 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: he plays the position like he is their starting point 402 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: guard like that, and he's been their starting point guard. 403 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: Lebron is a better point guard. Lebron's played with point 404 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: guards like Lebron's. He's played with point guards many times. 405 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: It's great one a championship with Kyrie Irving as his 406 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: point guard. Was in his point guard Kyrie was a 407 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: shoot Okay, but he okay? All right, Well, look, history 408 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: is going to record Steph Carry as a point guard. 409 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: It's gonna say Steph Carry point guard, Magic Johnson point guard. 410 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: Is Steph Carry better than Magic Johnson? I don't know 411 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: answer that question, but I think after this series he 412 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 1: can make a reasonable argument for that. He can make 413 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: a reasonable argument to be called top ten of all 414 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: time looked in. Okay, but who are you taking out 415 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: of the top ten? Like we we we tend to 416 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: cram in fifteen into the time. I agree, I agree, 417 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have my list in front of me. 418 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: I'm just I think there's there's now a strong debate. Paul, 419 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 1: give us the top ten, and all right, here's a 420 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: quick consensus. Michael Jordan, Lebron, James Kreem, Abdul Jabbar, Magic Johnson, 421 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russell, Larry Bird, Larry Bird, Tim Duncan, 422 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: Oscar robertson Kobe Bryant, you got Shack Shack, and then 423 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: we're on two guys like Durant, Elijahan, Julius erv Okay, 424 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: who's coming in. I think you could. I think at 425 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: some point you can have the Tim Duncan Kobe Oscar 426 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: Robertson conversation with Steph Curry being in that mix. You 427 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 1: think step better. I don't know better is the right 428 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 1: way to put it. But he's got he's more, he's 429 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: as accomplished at this point. He's got four championships now 430 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: on his resume. Like he's done it, Like he's been successful, 431 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: was a two time MVP, and this series was one 432 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,959 Speaker 1: because of him. Like he had thirty four points in 433 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: Game four with the Warriors. If they'd lost, they'd be 434 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: done last night going into the fourth quarter. Celtics man 435 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,479 Speaker 1: a run there at the end of the third, they 436 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: were within ten points within the third. Steph Curry went 437 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 1: out and had thirteen points in the fourth quarter to 438 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: seal that game. So like he's he's doing all the 439 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: things people questioned that he could do. Put a team 440 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: on his back, be the lead player on a championship 441 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 1: level team, like he's doing it. So, Yeah, like the 442 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: three guys you mentioned the back then, Duncan, Kobe, Ostar Robertson, 443 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: I would now say Steph Curry belongs in that conversation 444 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: at the very least. Okay, you're not getting an argument 445 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: from me. I think we've getting a strong argument from you, Dan, 446 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: I'm getting I'm getting strong vibes. No, No, it's strong, 447 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: strong vibes you're getting. But um, how what's the window 448 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 1: for Golden State to continue this? It's honestly, like I 449 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: was talking about this with somebody last night, it could 450 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: be like seven years. If if you look at what 451 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: they have on that roster, they've basically got the Oklahoma 452 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: City Thunder on the back of that bench. Like you've 453 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: got two teenagers who were lottery picks in Moses Moody 454 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: and Jonathan Cominga. You get Jonathan James Wiseman who hasn't 455 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: played in a year like these are all these those 456 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: three players would make up the core of a rebuilding team, 457 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: a rebuilding team that would be thrilled to have all 458 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: three of them. I think Steph Curry is going to 459 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: age really well. He's shown that the last couple of years. 460 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: I think Clay Thompson comes back next year a better 461 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,959 Speaker 1: version of himself that he was this year, and Draymond 462 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: still gonna be Draymond. He's not gonna be a great 463 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: three point shooter, though he's shot about well last night, 464 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: but he's going to be able to be a high 465 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: level glue guy defensive player for years to come. And 466 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: as they regress slowly, theoretically, these young guys who have 467 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: loads of talents are going to progress to the point 468 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: where next year you can certainly say Kaminga, who played 469 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: well in Spurts during the regular season, could be ready 470 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: for a meaningful role. Andrew Wiggins is just twenty seven 471 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: years old, Like, he just turned twenty seven in February. 472 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: Why are you yelling at me? Why are you yelling? 473 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: I don't know. You got me going early in the 474 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: morning with this whole Oh he's not a point guard. 475 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:58,959 Speaker 1: Oh he's not top ten like he kind of got 476 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: me going there a little bit with that. So once 477 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: your Celtics lost, and that hurts, I don't care. I'm 478 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: not on a plane to San Francisco right now. Dan, 479 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,959 Speaker 1: That's what matters. Okay, that's the most important thing in 480 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: this conversation. But to the point, Kamena, Moody Wiseman, if 481 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: they develop next year, if Wiseman can get back on 482 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: the court, this window is like five plus years because 483 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: those guys theoretically should be that good to be able 484 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: to supplement that roster. Keep your head up, heads all 485 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: the way up then until it goes down the offseason story. 486 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: To keep an eye on number one offseason story as 487 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 1: what I would call it a co Number one For me, 488 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: it's Bradley Beale, does he resign with Washington? Is there 489 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: assigning trade scenario in the mix there? And Damian Lillard 490 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: what happens in Portland if they strike out in free agency. 491 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: I can't imagine Lilid's gonna be all that happy about 492 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: coming back. Those are two guys that can kind of 493 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: change if they're traded, can change the dynamic of the league. 494 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: Like going into next season, you know, Golden State probably 495 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: going to be right back there again. You see the 496 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: hierarchy in the Western Conference, in the East, the Boston 497 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: I don't think the Celtics need many changes to that team. 498 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: They go eight nine deep with really good guys, and 499 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: the experience they got from this finals appearance is going 500 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: to benefit them for next year, but Lillard beale, if 501 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: they get moved, they can really shake up the power 502 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: rankings in from either conference. In Zion that extension, is 503 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: that going to happen? Yeah, it just seems from and 504 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: I haven't checked in a couple of weeks now, but 505 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: it just seems like the only question there is going 506 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: to be what kind of protections Zion is okay with? 507 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: You know, you remember the Joel eb contract. He signed 508 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: a deal with a lot of protections after that first 509 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: rookie deal expired. I will, I would imagine, and I 510 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: believe this to be true, that New Orleans is going 511 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: to structure a max level extension similar to what Joel 512 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 1: MB got And as long as Zion is okay with it, 513 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: I think he will be because he's gonna want to 514 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: protect himself with guaranteed money for the foreseeable future. I 515 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: think a deal with Zion gets done in New Orleans. 516 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: Steph Curry is not a point guard. Okay, Well, what 517 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: is he? You want to say classify? I did? I 518 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: just told you he's a point guard. Okay, but that's 519 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,400 Speaker 1: not something that is an on the official NBA register. 520 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,239 Speaker 1: A points guard. It's not forward center guard, points guard. No, 521 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: no, no no, no, no, no, no, no no. We don't 522 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: have positions. It's positionless. The commissioner has already said it's 523 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: position less. Okay, So when did point guard stop? Like, 524 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: when did that stop being a thing? Like after John 525 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: Stockton retired? Pretty much? Okay, so pretty much nobody's a 526 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: point guard. Is Chris Paul a point guard? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, 527 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:41,959 Speaker 1: he's he's continues yeah yeah, Ronto, but the same Chris. 528 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: Chris Paul is a dinosaur, He's a he's a throwback player. Yeah, okay. 529 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: Is LaMelo Ball a point guard? Does it continue with him? Um? 530 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: I would say he's close to being a point guard. 531 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if he wants to be a point guard. 532 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: And Lonzo is more of a point guard. But but 533 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: there's not You can't be a point guard and you 534 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: don't even lead your team and assist. Okay, but Magic 535 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: was different than Bob Kuzy. Steph Curry is different than Magic, 536 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: like players evolve over time, the game changes, you know. 537 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're known for your passing more than 538 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: you're shooting, then you're a point guard with the definition 539 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: of a point guard like a power forward. Okay, I 540 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: don't know, you have to be a certain size. It 541 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: was okay, But do you have to be a certain 542 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: size to be a power forward? No? Well you used to, okay, 543 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: exactly The game changes, like I don't. I don't think 544 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: positions change. The game change, like what's a center? Now? 545 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: A center? Is now your point guard? At least a 546 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: denver it is? Yeah, like it. The game changes, these 547 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: players evolve. I don't think you should change the definition 548 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 1: of the position because the player changes in the game changes. 549 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: I think you're still that's who you are, Joel and 550 00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: Beats still a center. Steph Curry is still a point guard. Yeah, 551 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: they're just basketball players, that's all. Don't have labels on people. 552 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: People don't label. Thank you, Chris, you got it. Damn 553 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: Chris mannis I don't know what we accomplished there. But 554 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: he got all riled up. He's short on sleep, his 555 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: Celtics loss, and now we're arguing who's a point guard 556 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: and who's not and who's a center? And he got loud, 557 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: he raised his voice. How about the best NBA player 558 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: of all time sixty four or under. I'm gonna ask 559 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: Reggie Miller about that best player under sixty four. We'll 560 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: take a break. More phone calls coming up right after this. 561 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be 562 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until 563 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 564 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at 565 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. I'm 566 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: George Reister, host of the Reister or Wrong Hidcast. This 567 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: is the intersection where sports, business, society, and pop culture meet. 568 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: The truth Absolute fire home Monday's, Wednesdays and Fridays facts only. 569 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: Make sure you check your feelings at the door because 570 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: nobs is allowed. We keep it one hundred. This is 571 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: where real conversations happen. Listen to the Rights or Wrong 572 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:31,239 Speaker 1: podcasts on the iHeartRadio, Apple, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you 573 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. This weekend, a rivalry comes to a head. 574 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: Catch the Phillies play the Nationals coverage starting Sunday at 575 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: eleven thirty am Eastern only on Peacock. Say good morning 576 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: to those watching on Peacock. Download the app in you 577 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: can watch for free. I've got the updated NBA odds 578 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: to win it All next year according to DraftKings, Clippers, Warriors, Celtics, 579 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: nets All at plus six hundred, then the Bucks and 580 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: then the Phoenix Suns after that. MVP odds early MVP 581 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: odds two. You have co favorites here. Anybody want to 582 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:13,799 Speaker 1: guess MVP odds next year? Co favorites? Tato start with you. 583 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Luca is one of those two people, 584 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: and Jannis okay, yeah, Seaton, I had Jannis as one 585 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: of mine for sure, Marv I also had Jannis and 586 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 1: John Morant, John Morant okay, Pauli, Luca and embiid. Yeah, 587 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: that's it, ding ding ding ding, book Blok, Luke Yepp, 588 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 1: Joe Wellenbid, then Luca, then the Joker Greeg Freak, and 589 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:45,319 Speaker 1: then John morand oh yeah, I think the Joker unfortunately 590 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: is now out of that for the near future. Will 591 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,760 Speaker 1: he win another MVP? He can't next year. His status 592 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: because he's gonna have fantastic stats. He always does because 593 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: of the early eggs. It's which are again aren't his fault. 594 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: It kind of takes out well, he's had injuries with 595 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 1: his t um you know, his best guard, and Michael 596 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: Porter out as well. But yeah, you get to a 597 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: point where you go, wow, look at those numbers and 598 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: then they do those numbers the next year and you go, yeah, okay, 599 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: like no big deal. Janis will have a problem getting 600 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: another one. It's like Patrick Mahomes. You get to a 601 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: point where we expect that instead of wow, do you 602 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: see those numbers, It's like we've seen those numbers. Yeah, 603 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:29,439 Speaker 1: more Joker won't win another NBA won't win another NBA 604 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: MVP until he wins an NBA title. He's out, but 605 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,720 Speaker 1: then he would have to win it the following season, 606 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: which he can't win it. Yeah, he's out. No, he 607 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: can win so safe he wins the Nuggets win next year, 608 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: but then he would have then he's not going to 609 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: win it next year. But then the year after that, 610 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: he's all good because now it's you know what I 611 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: think if if he hadn't had MVPs, they won a 612 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: title then the following year, then the voters would be like, man, 613 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: you gotta consider the Joker here. I don't think he 614 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 1: wins another MVP. So him and Janie are those two 615 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: on like a Lebron type you know trajectory where it's like, 616 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: look at those numbers, they didn't win that year, yeah, 617 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: or that year or that year. Yeah, So it might 618 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: be that's another thing to factor in with Steph Curry. 619 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 1: Steph Curry won these titles during the Lebron era and 620 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,959 Speaker 1: KD era as well. I mean two of the great two, 621 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: maybe top ten players of all time. Certainly lebron is 622 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: got to factor that in when you win these championships. 623 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 1: This is held against the Rockets. You won two titles. Well, 624 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan won't playing, Okay, Yeah, Paul, you really do 625 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 1: have to win your MVPs early. Like Mahomes will have 626 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: to have a five year run where everyone else gets 627 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: one and some days someone will go, wow, we're overlooking 628 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and then he gets his when he's twenty nine. 629 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: It's like the last time lebron one was nine seasons ago. Yeah, 630 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: it's a long time. Tony in Washington, Hi, Tony, what's 631 00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: on your mind? Hey? Tone? Thanks Jone. I think we 632 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,839 Speaker 1: got some phone issues here. Um. I don't think it's 633 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: the issues with our callers. It might be just our 634 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: phone here. Dean in Florida, Hi Dean, Hey Dan, how 635 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: are you doing good? Dean? All right now? Listen. I 636 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,439 Speaker 1: find it amazing to me. Damn, there's three guys will 637 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,360 Speaker 1: never come off from out Rushmore, Kareem al Doo Jabbark 638 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: to me is the greatest guy ever period, Michael Jordan's 639 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,840 Speaker 1: and Larry Bird. People contemplating Larry Bird coming out of 640 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 1: the top ten is absurd. He limited more Hall of 641 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: Famous from the playoffs than anybody in the history. He's 642 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,400 Speaker 1: the only guy in the history of the NBA that 643 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: average for a career. Wait wait, Dean, Dean, where are 644 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 1: you from. I'm in Florida. Know where you where you're from? Oh, 645 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: I'm obviously you can come by my best I know 646 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. In fact, then he is the only 647 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: player he eliminated Morehall of Famers. He's the only player 648 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: to ever do those numbers. He was a he was 649 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: a ten time All NBA and eleven seasons. Basic things 650 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: what he played. I forget all the talking heads Dan 651 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: When when I hear peers like Karen say Bird was 652 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: the best player he ever played. Again, when I hear 653 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,879 Speaker 1: Magic say Bird's the best player he ever played. Again, 654 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: when I hear pat Riley say, I'll give Michael Jordan 655 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 1: to take a shot to win a game, but I'll 656 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: give Larry Bird the ball to save my life. I 657 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,760 Speaker 1: mean Michael Cooper said he would rather cover Michael Jordan 658 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: eighty gains than bird once. I mean to me, he 659 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: will never come up with Mount Rushmore. I mean, he's 660 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: an MVP Final twice winner, He's a three time MVP 661 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: of the regular season. He was right from Jock Street. 662 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: He won the Rookie of the Year. I mean to me, 663 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 1: it's absurd to think a guy who played like he 664 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,919 Speaker 1: did and he eliminated Morehall of Famers and he lost 665 00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: two titles to two of the top five guys. Ever, 666 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: Kareem and Magic. These are all great points, Tean, absolutely 667 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 1: all great points. I agree. Well, there's only one way 668 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,920 Speaker 1: to win Rookie of the Year. That's right out of 669 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: the jump. Yeah, well that right out of the jump 670 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 1: of the year. You kind of you kind of have 671 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,720 Speaker 1: to get one shot to win that each year old. 672 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 1: Each year old spent like four years playing in Japan 673 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: and then he came over and won, so one right 674 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 1: out off jump Street. It was for his first season year. Yes, 675 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 1: that's the only way you can win. It is your 676 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: first year. It's yeah, Rookie of the Year. It only 677 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: happens once. Yeah. Uh. Gibbs in Virginia Beaches back High Gibbs. Hey, 678 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:38,399 Speaker 1: Dan also from a soft flout. Uh willing to weigh 679 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 1: in here, just kidding, but Dan, Uh, I wanted to 680 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 1: be sorry. I wanted to pay off my tie to 681 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 1: the face argument about the PGA Championship. I sent that 682 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: to you guys. Hope you guys enjoy that. But if 683 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,880 Speaker 1: Marvin getting to the under sixty four, if Marvin is 684 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 1: jumping out of his chair hyping up Alan Irison, I'm 685 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 1: going to be very upset. Marvin and I used to 686 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: talk up Alan Irrison all the time when he was 687 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 1: a call taker. Alan Irrison is the most influential, maybe 688 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 1: not the best. Okay, would you take Alan Iverson over 689 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: Steph Curry? Dan my allegiances to win a game? No, no, no, no. 690 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: The best NBA player of all time who's six feet 691 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: four or under is Steph Curry. Yeah, all right, thank you, Gibbs. 692 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: I don't I mean he had he was on a 693 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 1: roll and then all of a sudden you threw in 694 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: some logic and then I loved Iverson, But he's not 695 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 1: better than Steph Curry. Yeah, Seton. There's nothing wrong with say, 696 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 1: being second to Steph Curry? Though? Is he second? You 697 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,839 Speaker 1: know there's there's nothing wrong is Iverson the second best 698 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,360 Speaker 1: player six feet four and under? Because Jerry West was 699 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: six two? Just saying, hey, there's nothing wrong with being third. Okay, 700 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: that's that's great. Okay, Yeah. More, Isaiah Thomas is like 701 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: six one. Okay, would you take Isaiah or Allen Iverson? 702 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:19,359 Speaker 1: I'll take your answer off the air or on the air. 703 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: I will take your answer on the air. How about 704 00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 1: we just hang up one? You are ye about done? 705 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,280 Speaker 1: Anybody taking Isaiah over Allen Iverson? PAULI is okay? Better 706 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 1: team player, better winner, better to fair. Yeah. More. Yeah, 707 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 1: And if it wasn't for Isaiah, Jordan probably has one 708 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 1: or two more titles. Okay, But I don't know. It 709 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:51,359 Speaker 1: feels like the Pistons inspired Jordan. I mean that that's 710 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 1: where he started to work out. Then he decided that. Okay, 711 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: But I say, if the Pittons weren't there, yeah, in 712 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: Jordan's way, in you know, eighty nine nine, the Bulls 713 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,840 Speaker 1: probably get to the finals. Update the poll results, Seaton 714 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: or did we use the poll for an hour or two? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, 715 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 1: we have been using the poll. Okay, you gotta use 716 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 1: the poll. Yeah, it's actually it's just an absolute the 717 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,839 Speaker 1: comments underneath it on Twitter, or an absolute hornets nest 718 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,799 Speaker 1: okay of just rude behavior. If Steph Curry is a 719 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 1: top ten all time player, who are you taking out 720 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: right now? Forty three percent of the voter taking Tim Duncan. 721 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,720 Speaker 1: That's what I thought, dang rang. The options were Wilt Chamberlain, 722 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 1: Bill Russell, Tim Duncan, and then other and other is 723 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 1: just well, he doesn't have He's not exciting. I mean, 724 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 1: when your nickname is the Big Fundamental, probably not going 725 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 1: to have a lot of highlights. There. US open today 726 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: at the Country Club in Brookline, Massachusetts. 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