1 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature feature production of iHeartRadio. I'm your host 2 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology and evolutionary biology, 3 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 1: and today on the show Fat Babies, we're talking about 4 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: some of the biggest babies around, everyone's favorite Internet hippo 5 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: Moo Dang, as well as the enormous, gargantuan, fluffy and 6 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: incredible baby king penguin Pasto. I am so excited to 7 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: talk about these I really wanted to sort of have 8 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: a full discussion about Moodang, the internet sensation and what 9 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: is she, how does she function, why is she and 10 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: also the interesting conversation about how we treat animal celebrities. 11 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: Joining me today to talk about these enormous babies is 12 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: writer for one nine hundred Hot Dog, the comedy website, 13 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: and of the horror novella Healthy Choices, Lydia bug. Hi. 14 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. 15 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: You actually suggested this topic to me because you mentioned Pesto, 16 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: the incredible baby king penguin, who is just apparently growing 17 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: bigger and bigger. He's not going to stop until essentially 18 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: he is the size of a building. 19 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. I told my husband it's like me having a 20 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: baby and it being six feet tall. Yes, that's what 21 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 2: it reminds me of. 22 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: It's wild, it's very wild. So, but first, I do 23 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: want to talk about moo Dang. You are familiar with Moodang, 24 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: I would presume. 25 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh, yes, obviously I'm obsessed with all of 26 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: the fat baby animals. There's a TikTok talker who does 27 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: the Nights of the rotund Table, which is all of 28 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: the fat baby animals that are at Zeus. And uh, yeah, 29 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 2: Moodang is like the King Arthur of the Knights of 30 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: the Road Hunt. 31 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: Yes, she's incredible, So let's let's talk about her first. 32 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: So Mooding, it's the internet's favorite juvenile pigmy hippo. Uh. 33 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: Pigmy hippos hail from West Africa. Let's talk about this 34 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: species a little bit before we talk about Moodan Specifically, 35 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: they are one of two living species within the hippo family. 36 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: The other is the common hippo, which is much larger. 37 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: That's the hippo we know in love. That's the one 38 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 1: that does the ballet in Fantasia. They are quite big now. 39 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: Adult pigmy hippos grow to be around four hundred to 40 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: six hundred pounds which is one hundred and eighty to 41 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy five kilograms, which sounds like a 42 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: lot maybe until you realize that common hippos average over 43 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:58,399 Speaker 1: three thousand pounds. Oh my god, one five hundred kilograms. 44 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 2: Right, dainty. 45 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: Pigmy hippos are tiny compared to common hippos. Like the 46 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: largest kind of individual common hippos can weigh in to 47 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: be over five thousand pounds or over two thou two 48 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: hundred kilograms, so that compared to say, amax size of 49 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,839 Speaker 1: six hundred pounds. Pygmy hippos are little. You know, they're 50 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: pigmy hippos and they're little. They're the Chihuahuas of the 51 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: hippo world. 52 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 2: Did we like breathe them like teacup chuahuas to be 53 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 2: tiny or they're just. 54 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: Like Fortunately, no, they are just naturally like that. 55 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: Because if someone wants a house hippo, that's really not good. 56 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably. I love the idea of a little 57 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: lap hippo, but it's not gonna ever happen ethically. So 58 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: pigmy hippos only grow to be a little over three 59 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: feet tall about a meter, so yeah, they are truly 60 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: the cute little cousins of common hippos. They are similar 61 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: in some ways to the larger hippos. They are semi aquatic, 62 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: although they are a lot more terrestrial than common hippos. 63 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: They spend more time on land. They're also less aggressive 64 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: than common hippos. They're a lot more shy. 65 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: Really because Moodang is spicy. 66 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: Moodang is very sassy, but contrary, she's not murderous. I 67 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: would say, like pygmy hippos are sassy. They will go 68 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: after you if they feel you are, you know, bringing 69 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: down the mood harshing their mellow, but they won't kill you. 70 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: I can't. I couldn't find a case of a pygmy 71 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: hippo over killing anyone, whereas common hippos regularly kill people. 72 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: They're very dangerous, they are very aggressive. 73 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 2: I feel like I heard once they were like one 74 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 2: of the most dangerous animals on Earth. Is that true? 75 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: They're They're not the like one of the most dangerous 76 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: animals on earth. They are far more dangerous than say, 77 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: sharks in terms of killing people. That's crazy. The most 78 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: dangerous animals on Earth are mosquitoes, dogs, and snakes, and 79 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: in descending order of badness, I think or no, I'm 80 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: not anyways, regardless, those are the three ones that cause 81 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: the most human deaths of of sort of animals, right, Like, 82 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: obviously bacteria and pathogens can cause more death. 83 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 2: That makes sense because those are prolific animals. 84 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so. And it's also like with mosquitos, it's 85 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: unintentional they carry disease. Dogs, it's rabies, uh and in 86 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: a lot of countries where there is not as much 87 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: of a successful campaign against rabies. And then snakes obviously 88 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: with their venom, they actually can cause a good number 89 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: of human deaths. But but you know, like common hippos 90 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 1: are up there, they are more dangerous than sharks, but 91 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: they but pygmy hippos not so much. They are not 92 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: that aggressive. They will fight, as we know from Moodang, 93 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 1: who is a spicy little sausage. So the pigmy hippos 94 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:15,799 Speaker 1: are more shy than common hippos. They form smaller social groups, 95 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: usually family units like a mother and the calves. They 96 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: avoid confrontation with other pigmy hippos. They don't really fight 97 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: so much, and they like to rest in the river 98 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: during the day and then they come out at dusk 99 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: to feed. And so you know there they are overall 100 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: a bit more shy, a bit more introverted, a bit 101 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: more chill. And so the way I interpret mood Dang's 102 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: behavior is that she's annoyed at all the attention and 103 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: just wants to be left alone. 104 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 2: I get it relatable. I just want to chill in 105 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 2: a river and come out at night to feed. Like, yeah, 106 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 2: that sounds like the life. 107 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: If like I could just bite someone's leg every time 108 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: I feel socially exhausted, my life would be so much 109 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: more simple. 110 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why we love Mudang. She's the people's pigmy hippo. 111 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 2: We're all like, I get it. 112 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've said this. I think I've said this before 113 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: on this show. But like, I had a plumbing disaster 114 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: that a few weeks ago, just as Moudang was spiking 115 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: in popularity. And what happened was I filled my sink 116 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: up with dirty dishwater. Well not intentionally, My sink was clogged. 117 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: There was a clog deep down somewhere and I I 118 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: was filled with dirty dishwater. So me smart took out 119 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: the u trap of the sink and I did put 120 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: a bucket under there, but it was a small bucket, 121 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: not enough bucket, and also the water came out really 122 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: fast because it was under pressure, and I did get 123 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: blasted with dirty dishwater. The bucket overflowed and I flooded 124 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: our kitchen and I was wet and mad. And when 125 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: I saw Moodang, I was like, well, sister, I get it, 126 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: but you do look like. 127 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: Me the most relatable in that moment. 128 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, wet and mad? Yeah, uh so, yes she is. 129 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: I think that the fury of the little hippo is 130 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: very relatable. 131 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: And she's just always doing normal things and the zookeepers 132 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 2: are like bothering her. Like I saw one where she 133 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: was sitting in her mother's food bowl, which genius. Like 134 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 2: if I were tiny and could fit into a food bowl, 135 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 2: I would sit in it and eat like that sounds great, 136 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 2: And her mom was trying to eat like around her. Yeah, 137 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 2: zookeepers were like, get out of that food bowl, and 138 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 2: then she was like, no, I'm gonna bite you. 139 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, very reasonable she should. I used to when I 140 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: was a kid. I would like to take cereal into 141 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: the bath, and sometimes the cereal would fall into the 142 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: bath and I thought, huh, I'm basically swimming in a 143 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: bowl of cereal. Because my cereal is now my bathwater. 144 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 2: Oh my god. I love eating in the bathtub, Like 145 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 2: I feel like that's good. It's such a hick thing 146 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 2: to do, but I love it. 147 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: I had a setup where in my parents' bathroom, if 148 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: I opened the door, I could like turn on the 149 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: TV from the other room and incredible, watch the TV 150 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: from the bath and take a bubble bath and then 151 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: eat eat fruity pebbles in the bubble bath. And it 152 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: was sort of the best thing that's ever happened in 153 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: my life. I can't say anything has ever topped that. Yeah. 154 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 2: No, Like at my old house, I had a jet 155 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: bathtub and I had enough space to put my laptop 156 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 2: at the edge of the tub, and I was willing 157 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 2: to like live dangerously and do that. And I remember 158 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 2: at Christmas once Bridgerton had just come out and I 159 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: was like in the bathtub watching Bridgerton. I had some 160 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 2: kind I think, like a bottle of sparkling wine and 161 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 2: some cheese. This is incredible. 162 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: I mean, this is the thing. Like, yes, mood dang 163 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: is highly relatable. We like to swim around in our 164 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: in some water, have food at the ready, and we 165 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: don't want people to interrupt our good times. One cute 166 00:09:55,800 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: habit that pigmy hippos share with common hippos is that 167 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: they like to do poop fan So they will poop 168 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: vigorously and then helicopter their tail and just spread the 169 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: dung around. And it's not that the like whole papers 170 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: have been written about exactly what they're trying to achieve 171 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: with this, like it's basically thought to be marking sort 172 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: of trails or territories, but it is just it's, you know, 173 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: it's a pooh tornado that they like to produce. 174 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 2: That's great. I think I've seen videos of hippos and 175 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: zoos doing that and people being like horrified. 176 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: That's it's just a normal behavior for them. 177 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 2: I love it, and they know. I'm sure that people like, hey, 178 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 2: people think this is terrifying. I'm gonna do it, yes, 179 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 2: like everybody check this out. All the chorists are. 180 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: Like, oh my god, no, yeah, they probably they probably 181 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: get a kick out of it. They do sometimes do 182 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: it like at each other in the wild, not necessarily 183 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: pigmy hippos but common hippos, So there can be some 184 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: poop poop fan aggression going on. So I wouldn't be 185 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: surprised if sometimes it is used towards visitors to be like, hey, 186 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: get out of here. 187 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 2: Is poop fan the scientific name? 188 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 1: You know, it's not not scientific. So that is the 189 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: background on pygmy hippos. Let's talk a little bit more 190 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: about Moo Dang specifically. She was born in July of 191 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: this year, twenty twenty four. She's a juvenile pygmy hippo 192 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: living at Kao Ko Open Zoo in Thailand. Her antics 193 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: are looking perpetually annoyed and soaked in water. She has 194 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: two siblings, Nadette and Mutuan, though like the Baldwin brothers, 195 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:46,959 Speaker 1: they are not as famous. So and my favorite thing 196 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: about her is that her name Moodang roughly translates to 197 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: bouncy pig. 198 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 2: Oh, that's so cute. 199 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: She really is that she is a bouncy pig. Yeah, 200 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: she looks like an overstuffed cushion. I love her. Her 201 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: popularity actually doubled the number of visitors to the zoo, 202 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: which can in some ways be good right, but in 203 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: other ways it's proved to be a challenge. Some of 204 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: these visitors took it upon themselves to try to harass 205 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: Moodang by throwing water or objects at her. I believe 206 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: that all of these visitors should be lined up and 207 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: receive a bite from Mudang, like just be like, all right, 208 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: you did this, you get bitten. Yeah, you receive if 209 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: you if you violate Moodang's boundaries, you should be willing 210 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: to receive. Mudang's retribution is Mike. 211 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 2: I can't I can't even imagine what goes through a 212 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 2: person's head that makes them want to throw something, I mean, 213 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 2: at any animal, but especially at the cutest animal on friggin' Earth. 214 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're trying to think because they're trying to provoke 215 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: a reaction, probably to get like a photo or video 216 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: for social media, that would be my guess. But the 217 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: zoo has responded, I mean by definitely scolding people, but 218 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: also they become more protective of her, and they only 219 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: allow visitors like five minutes to gaze upon MoU Dang 220 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: other because like, she's just become so wildly popular and 221 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: they've got to protect her. And you know, but I 222 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: think it's a very interesting example of how weird animal 223 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: celebrity gets. You know. I love this little hippo, I 224 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: get it, she's adorable, but it's also a little concerning 225 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: sometimes because she is a wild animal, she's not gonna 226 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: appreciate or like the excess attention that she's actually getting 227 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: like in real life. 228 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have this exact same like worry about because 229 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 2: zoos know that these little animals are huge money makers 230 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: now ever since like Fiona, I think was the first 231 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: big celebrity hippo, and I wonder if they're being ethical 232 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 2: about how many babies they're having because of how much 233 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 2: money they can bring into the zoo. Like, I had 234 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 2: lots of questions about this. It's because I love it, 235 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: But I'm like, am I is it bad that I 236 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 2: love this so much? 237 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: You know, it's a good question. I don't have it 238 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: as simple answer for this. You know, there's a lot 239 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: of really good zoos that do a lot of good 240 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: conservation work. I think that overall zoos can be a 241 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:27,479 Speaker 1: positive thing, both in terms of conservation, rehabilitation, education, research. 242 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: All of these things can make zoos actually I think 243 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: a net benefit for the for animals, for the environment. 244 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: But you know, I think that in cases like this, 245 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: it is a definite gray area because on one hand, 246 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: uh pigmy hippos are endangered and Moodang has now brought 247 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: a huge amount of attention to pygmy hippos. Now everybody 248 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: knows what they are. They see her, they find her 249 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: really key. And so if you tell them, like, look 250 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: this type of hippo, like they're endangered, people make care more. 251 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: Right due to her fame and her popularity. On the 252 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: other hand, it's an we do kind of like it 253 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: concerns me obviously the people who throw stuff at the 254 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: at her should just be fired off into the sun. 255 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: But like it's also now that she gets so many visitors, 256 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: I wonder how much that stresses her out right, because 257 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: like I said, they're basically crepuscular, borderline nocturnal, Like they 258 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: you know usually rest in rivers during the day and 259 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: then at night is when they like at dusk is 260 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: when they come out to feed. So be getting that 261 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: much attention during the day, I wonder how much that 262 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: affects her stress and her health, right, Like, I just 263 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: hope that you know, she is being protected so that 264 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: she can stay moisturized in the lane. 265 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I was psyched to hear that they took 266 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: her off display except for five minutes a day, because 267 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: if you're having if that's like you know, if they're 268 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 2: having these issues. That's what needs to be done obviously, 269 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 2: is to like mainly have her be protected and doing 270 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 2: her own thing, and then every once in a while 271 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 2: people can look upon her like. 272 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: Ye right, yeah, I think it might be five minutes 273 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: of visitor. Let me check on that, visitors. 274 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 2: I remember reading about that. 275 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: Oh no, it's you're right. It's like for only five minutes. 276 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: Visitors could see mooding for only five minutes on Saturdays 277 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: and Sundays. I think it might be on Saturdays and Sundays, 278 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: each visitor, like you know, like you're in a line 279 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: and basically you're ushered forward, so you only get about 280 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: five minutes to look at her. But it is it 281 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: is limited to Saturdays and Sundays. 282 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 2: Okay, that's not so bad, like, you know, because that 283 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 2: keeps the crowds smaller too, so she's not dealing with 284 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: Like when I went to see Fiona, there was like, 285 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: you know, sixty people like pressed to the glass. 286 00:16:59,160 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 287 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 2: Sure, it's less stressful to have two people at a 288 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: time kind of staring at you. 289 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, uh yeah, yeah. I think it is really 290 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: important to kind of balance the I mean, of course, 291 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: I don't blame anyone for wanting to see her in person. 292 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: I'd love to see her in person. Who wouldn't an 293 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: adorable little hippo. That's not necessarily the problem. It's that 294 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 1: we do need to balance sort of the fun of 295 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: it all, like, which is like, you know, I mean 296 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 1: having fun internet stuff about her. There's no harm in 297 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: that that I can really see, but yeah, just making 298 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: sure that doesn't bleed over into you know, I don't 299 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: want people thinking like that she's basically like a pet 300 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,959 Speaker 1: or a toy or you know, that she's anything other 301 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: than a wild animal who isn't a zoo obviously, but 302 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: that deserves respect and deserves to be treat, you know, 303 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: not treated like a form of entertainment, but rather as 304 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: a living creature. 305 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want the zoo to like stage mom 306 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 2: mood day, you know. 307 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: Now, I'm just thinking about those hippos and Fantasia, the 308 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: ballet hippos, and like, yeah, if they had to go 309 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:10,719 Speaker 1: through dance moms. 310 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want Moudang to go through what Jojo 311 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 2: Siba went through. 312 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: Oh no, no, oh man, no ah, Yeah, that's that's 313 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: just Moodang in a sparkly bikini, drinking with Pila I'm 314 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: not gonna end up. Well all right, well we're gonna 315 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: take a quick break, and then, much to Lydia's delight, 316 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about Pesto the Penguin. 317 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 2: I've been dying to talk to anyone about Pasto that 318 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 2: will listen, So. 319 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: All right, so we are back, and Lendy, you actually 320 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: suggested this one to me. This is about Pesto the penguin. 321 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: What drew you towards this little penguin or probably shouldn't 322 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: say little penguin? 323 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 2: No, thank you for asking. So I think what's so 324 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: special about Pesto is the fact that a lot of 325 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 2: big baby animals just look like a slightly smaller version 326 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 2: of that animal. So if they're born really big, you 327 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 2: can't really tell how big they are. But the fact 328 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 2: that Pesto has his like penguins have that fuzz when 329 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 2: they're born, and then they get their like oily slicker feathers, 330 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,479 Speaker 2: you can really tell, like this is a baby, and 331 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 2: it looks like a baby, but it's taller than all 332 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 2: of the adults. So it makes me picture, like I said, 333 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 2: a six foot tall, like two year old, yeah, walking 334 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 2: around a house, and how much destruction that would bring 335 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 2: and it makes me like smile and laugh every single time. 336 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 2: And I have heard like an origin story for Pesto 337 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 2: that is very cute, but I don't know if it's true. 338 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,239 Speaker 2: And I don't know if you know it's true. But 339 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 2: do you do you want me to tell you. 340 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: What it is? Yeah? Tell me I can, Okay, all right. 341 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 2: I heard that his dad was like one of the 342 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 2: biggest king penguins ever in Captivity, and he was very 343 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 2: old and he passed away either pre Pesto's birth or 344 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 2: when he was very young. 345 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: Uh. 346 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 2: And his mother also has passed away. And so Pesto's 347 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 2: two dads, he says, two dads, and that's the penguins 348 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 2: he hangs around with. And they're smaller penguins. So part 349 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 2: of why he also looks so big is because he's 350 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 2: hanging out with these two smaller penguins all the time. 351 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think at least part of that is true. 352 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: So he is like I thought. 353 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 2: I thought it was sus so I didn't google it 354 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 2: because I liked it so much. 355 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 1: So his his father is one of the oldest and 356 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: largest penguins at the zoo. I don't know that his father, 357 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:38,239 Speaker 1: Blake is actually dead. He is being raised by foster parents. 358 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: So like the the foster parents are Tango and Hudson. 359 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that these are these are I don't 360 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: know if they're They might be gay penguins. There's I 361 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: would like, yeah, I believe so, Yes, I believe so 362 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: so and but yeah, I don't know. I haven't really 363 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: seen anything specifically about the mother. I don't know that 364 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: the mothers actually died. I think it may just be 365 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 1: that the father's really old. Raising a penguin is kind 366 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 1: of a two penguin job, and so they wanted to 367 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: try out. They wanted to give this egg to Hudson 368 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: and Tango to raise, to see how that if that 369 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: would work out well, and it did work out really 370 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: really well. It worked out super well, well cared for. 371 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: So Pesto he's a juvenile king penguin, not an emperor penguin, 372 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: so we're not talking about happy feet here. Happy feet 373 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: penguins are emperor penguins. King penguins are slightly smaller, so 374 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: Pesto is enormous. He was hatched January twenty twenty four 375 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: at Sea Life Melbourne Aquarium, and like most baby penguins, 376 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: he grew a fluffy brown coat that started to lighten, 377 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 1: and eventually, as an adult it will molt in favor 378 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 1: of that black, yellow and white coloration that you're familiar 379 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 1: with of penguins. But currently I think he's sort of 380 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: a fluffy gray, sort of light gray. He started out 381 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: as a dark brown gray. That coat lightens, gets a 382 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: little thinner as they age, and then they'll molt and 383 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: then have their adult colors. But Pesto is unique because 384 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: Pesto is absolutely enormous. He towers over his gay foster dads. 385 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: So for a frame of reference, adult king penguins typically 386 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: average around thirty five pounds, so that's about sixteen kilograms. 387 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: In September of this year of our Lord and Savior 388 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: King Penguin twenty twenty four, Pesto weighed forty six pounds. 389 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 2: Lord almighty. 390 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: Thirty five pounds is the average. He's forty six pounds 391 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: and he's just baby, and he's a baby, and that's 392 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: about twenty one kilograms. He was eating twenty five fish 393 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: a day. He's the largest baby king penguin in the 394 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,719 Speaker 1: aquarium's history, and he's only getting bigger. Last time I checked, 395 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: it's looked like he was maybe fifty pounds at least. 396 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, every time he's on TikTok. You know, the search 397 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 2: bar of TikTok has what everybody else is searching every 398 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,719 Speaker 2: single video of Pesto without fail. The search bar is 399 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 2: why is Pasto so big? Why is Pasto so big? 400 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 2: We need to know? 401 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: Well, the according to the zoo, it's partially genetics. His 402 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: father was one of the biggest penguins in the zoo's 403 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: history or in the aquarium's history. Part of it, they say, 404 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: is because of his parents. The foster parents are incredibly attentive, 405 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: so feeding him a lot. So like both both gens 406 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: and environment mean he is enrm uh, but they do 407 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: say the caretakers do say that he'll drop and wait 408 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: after fledging, so like once he finally molts as an 409 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: adult to around thirty three pounds or fifteen kilograms, so 410 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: dropping down to somewhere in the average. But I'm so 411 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 1: skeptical that yah, yeah, I justlieve them. 412 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 2: He's got twenty pounds of feathers that he's gonna drop. 413 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: Okay, no, no, And I mean part of it could be, 414 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: like the metabolism changes a little bit, but like I'm 415 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: also very skeptical, Like in I tried to sort of 416 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: hunt this down. In the wild, it looks like, in 417 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: good conditions, pre fledgling king penguins have an average weight 418 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: of about twenty eight pounds or thirteen kilograms. Remember, Pesto 419 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: is like fifty pounds right now, But let's say the 420 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: weight is higher, right, Like in the wild they may 421 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: be thinner, right because they're getting less nutrition. Let's say 422 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: they're heavier on average in captivity. Even then, like let's 423 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: say they're like, you know, instead of twenty eight pounds, 424 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: they're like thirty eight pounds or something. Pesto is fifty pounds, 425 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: So like there's still this like vast difference in weight. 426 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: Like I I want to place bets, Like what do 427 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: you think he's gonna weigh as an adult? 428 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 2: I think what was his father's weight? Do we know 429 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 2: it was forty something? 430 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: Oh we don't. Yeah, I don't know what his father's 431 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: weight is. Let me see, But I mean he was big, right. 432 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 2: I think he's going to be bigger than even his dad, 433 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 2: which is the largest. So I think he'll definitely be 434 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 2: the new largest in captivity. I guess he's still he's 435 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 2: still going to weigh forty three pounds. 436 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: That's very close to my guess, which was just forty 437 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: pounds because it's a nice round number. Yeah, but we'll see, 438 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: we shall see. In the wild, king penguins are one 439 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: of the biggest species of penguin, outmatched only by emperor penguins. 440 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: They're just a sleeker, slimmer version of emperor penguins. They're 441 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: found in the South Atlanta in South Indian Ocean on 442 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: these Subantarctic islands. Typically they live in warmer conditions than 443 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:12,199 Speaker 1: the emperor penguin, So it is it's almost as if 444 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 1: someone like slipped in an emperor penguin egg into the 445 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: enclosure and is just like trying to pass it off as. 446 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 2: Wow, that would be a hilarious twist in this someone 447 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 2: someone just put the wrong egg in the wrong place 448 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 2: and they're like, oh god, oh. 449 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: No, yeah, so just got the egg switched. Fun fact 450 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: about pesto, Oh no, we already we already covered that. 451 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 1: But yeah, the pesto is being raised by these foster parents, 452 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: and it is really cute because penguins are very attentive. 453 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: They there's a good chance that if you give them 454 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: an egg, they're just gonna be like Hey, free kid 455 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: and raise that egg as their own. 456 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: Incredible. These are half off this. 457 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: Month, so yeah, and parental care is quite significant for penguins, 458 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: including king penguins. The like I said, males also caretake 459 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 1: for the eggs and for the offspring. Once the egg 460 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: has hatched, that baby is very vulnerable. Even though they 461 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: grow that really fluffy brown, downy coat, eventually, when they 462 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: are newly hatched, they barely have any feathers or any 463 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: down at all, so they're very vulnerable to freezing to death. 464 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: So what the parents have to do is they sort 465 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: of tuck them under their tummy. They have this thing 466 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 1: called a brood pouch that they can tuck either over 467 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: the egg or once the chick is hatched, they can 468 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: tuck it over the chicken. They balance the egg sort 469 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: of like on their feet and then tuck the pouch 470 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 1: over so they're nice and snugly and warm. 471 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 2: Oh that's so sweet. It's kind of like a reverse 472 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 2: kangaroo pouch. Then it's like an Audi pouch. 473 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: It's an Audi pouch. I love that. But but yeah, 474 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: and I mean, like because that's one reason like that. 475 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: I mean, there's like in every species, every species of 476 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: animals will have gay animals. Like, that's just basically something 477 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: that will happen if there is an animal that sexually reproduces. 478 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: I think it's almost guaranteed that some of them will 479 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 1: be gay. And so penguins are not unique in being gay. 480 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: Penguins are unique in that we have them in captivity 481 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: a lot so we can observe them, and also that 482 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: they are such good and loving dads. So that's why 483 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: we get these unique situations where we have we get 484 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: to see like loving gay parents raising a foster a 485 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:50,719 Speaker 1: foster pesto because and because you know, the fathers do 486 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: really invest just as much care into raising the chicks 487 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 1: as the females do, which is something that is more 488 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: common in seabirds, it seems, because the demands of the 489 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: environments are so harsh that you really need both parents 490 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: to be involved. 491 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's so great. That's some good, great 492 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 2: gay representation, because like, I mean, how big a baby 493 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 2: penguin is has to be a metric for like how 494 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 2: well you're taking care of it. So it's like these 495 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 2: are amazing fathers. Yes, yeah, they're killing it. 496 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: We shouldn't we shouldn't need to like point to penguins 497 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: to encourage people to support gay rights. 498 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 2: But you know, but this penguin said gay rights. 499 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: This penguin did say gay rights. Yeah, it just it 500 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: makes me think about like here in Italy, I think 501 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: there's just a law past that makes it illegal to 502 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: effectively bans gay people from adopting or becoming parents, which 503 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: I think is disgusting that this is happening in Italy, 504 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: and it is, you know, it's just like it's so weird, right, 505 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: like that we come up with all these laws and 506 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: hang ups. Meanwhile, penguins are just like, we've just raised 507 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: this baby to be the world's largest pengua. 508 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 2: We're literally, statistically the best penguin. 509 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: Parents, statistically the best penguin parents. Like you have ever 510 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,959 Speaker 1: seen witness our enormous child. 511 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:23,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the miracle penguin baby, and Italy is just 512 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 2: ignoring it. 513 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, make that movie DreamWorks at Disney, I dare you. 514 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: All Right, So we're gonna take a quick break, but 515 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: when we return, we are going to talk about or 516 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna do a little change up. We're gonna kind 517 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: of do the opposite the tiniest babies that grow into 518 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: the biggest adults. That sounds great, all right, so we 519 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: are back and we're going to talk about the world's 520 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: any bittiest baby. But the twist is that they grow 521 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: into very large animals. So this is about some of 522 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: the greatest growths from birth weight to adult weight in 523 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: the animal kingdom. And so my two favorite examples of 524 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: this are the red kangaroo and the sunfish, two very 525 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 1: different animals. Let's start with the red kangaroo. I like 526 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: that you brought up earlier, the fact that the penguin 527 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: brood pouch is like an audi pouch, like a kangaroo 528 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: pouch but audi, and we are going to talk about 529 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: kangaroo pouches here. So red kangaroos are marsupials, and like 530 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: other kangaroos, they're actually the largest kangaroo. And when they 531 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: give birth, their joeys start out incredibly tiny. They are 532 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: basically like fetuses at this point, and they are like 533 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: the size of a tiny bean, and they crawl their 534 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: way out of the vaginal canal up into the mother's 535 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: the mother kangaroo's pouch. It's this like incredible journey that 536 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: takes them. It's actually surprisingly fast. It takes like around 537 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: five to ten minutes for them to crawl up. 538 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 2: They do it themselves. They do it themselves. Yeah, that's crazy. 539 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. They And then once they're inside the pouch, they 540 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: have to latch onto a teat and then they stay 541 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: there until they start growing. So adult red kangaroos, like 542 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: I said, they are the largest roo, biggest roue, and 543 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: they weigh anywhere from around ninety pounds or forty kilograms 544 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: if female, or up to two hundred pounds around ninety 545 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: kilograms if male. Guess how much the newborn babies weigh, man, 546 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: I've seen a. 547 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 2: Baby kangaroo before, and they are teeny tiny, like the 548 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 2: size of a mouse. So I'm gonna say like a pound. 549 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: Yeah that's because you see it after it started developing 550 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: a little bit. The newborn babies are like a single gram. 551 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: They are like they are smaller than a bean, which 552 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: means that they grow around ninety thousand times their birth 553 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: weight when they reach adulthood. 554 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 2: Man, kangaroo's got it made. I'm jealous of kangaroos, I. 555 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: Know, right, Like when I think about having children, it's 556 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: just like, why wasn't I born a kangaroo? Yes, although 557 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: I guess they get a squirming toddler like attached to 558 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: your stomach pouch all the time, although that just happens 559 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: with us. 560 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 2: We do that, we do that to us and carry 561 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 2: them around, and that's when they're the most peaceful, honestly, 562 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 2: is when they're like like super pressed to their mother's body. 563 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 2: They usually just sleep. So dang kangaroos. God loves kangaroos. 564 00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: Have you ever seen like people who are like kangaroo rescuers, Like, say, 565 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: the kangaroo babies are being raised in sort of a 566 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: rescue organization. They can just like hold out like a 567 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: bag and the little kangaroo will come up, The joey 568 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: will come up and just like flop right into the pack. 569 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 2: It's so cold, that's amazing. 570 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: Oh, they're so portable. They really are the most the 571 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: most I would say convenient baby. Another convenient baby is 572 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: the baby of the sunfish. Oh wait, no, no, no, 573 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: I have something really cool to say about the red kangaroo. First, 574 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: so one fun little thing with that might either make 575 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: you jealous or not. I'm not sure, but like female 576 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: red kangaroos are almost perpetually pregnant. Now that sounds bad, 577 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: I'm off board. 578 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 2: I'm afward. 579 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: Their bodies can actually freeze the development of the embryo 580 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 1: if she senses that she currently has a Joey in 581 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: her pouch, so essentially she can control when she gives 582 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 1: birth to the new Joey, which again is gonna be 583 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: like a teeny tiny bean. And then once the older 584 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: Joey like moves out of the pouch, like moves out 585 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: of his old room, then she starts up the the 586 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: birthing process that the like the embryo continues to develop, 587 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: is born and then crawls into the empty pouch. 588 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 2: Can if they sense that there's like not enough resources 589 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 2: or something around, can they just not have a baby 590 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,479 Speaker 2: at all? Or does it always have to be sort 591 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 2: of in some in some way in that process? I 592 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 2: guess does that make sense? 593 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: Like I would imagine that if there's other environmental cues, 594 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: right that like she can hold she can can continue 595 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,400 Speaker 1: to hold off on giving birth, right like like you 596 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: pull it in essential in a way, in a way. 597 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's a very good point, like resource, uh, like, 598 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 1: if there's your resources, yeah, she might she might also 599 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: continue to halt the embryonic development, but yeah, and there 600 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: could of course, there could also be like miscarriage type 601 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: type situation, which is like sort of a natural abortion 602 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: that would be in cases where your body is very 603 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 1: stressed and so it aborts the baby to you know, 604 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: prevent there from being a pregnancy during a time that 605 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: is not good for it. 606 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 2: So so interesting. 607 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it sounds convenient to me. I'm very jealous. Now. 608 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: So the other one that I love are sunfish. Have 609 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: you ever seen a sunfish? 610 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 2: I know they're very big. Yes, are they big? Are 611 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:39,320 Speaker 2: they big? Flat guys? 612 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: Yes, you have seen them. Yes, they're enormous, weird flat 613 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 1: fish with big bulging eyes. They're very strange looking. They 614 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 1: weigh up to one thousand kilograms or two thousand, two 615 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: hundred pounds. Wow. In contrast, the babies that hatched look 616 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 1: like teeny tiny spikey stars and they weigh less than 617 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: a gram. Uh, they're almost like planked in it, like 618 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: they're just a few millimeters wide. Oh wow, Yeah, it's wild. 619 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,240 Speaker 1: Many of them will not reach adulthood. They're so tiny. 620 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 1: They're like an easy snack for a lot of things. 621 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 1: But it's fine. It's fine because mom can carry around 622 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 1: three hundred million eggs. 623 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,879 Speaker 2: Okay, so you really don't want her to have all 624 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 2: of those babies, or we would just there would be 625 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 2: no ocean, there would be no sunfish. 626 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: You could you could just walk on on all these sunfish. 627 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. 628 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,399 Speaker 1: Uh. The ones that do survive increase their birth weight 629 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: by a factor of a million. It is an incredible change. 630 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 2: Yes, that's so crazy, Like how do you even have 631 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 2: enough cells in your body to construct? 632 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: Well, you don't start out with them, you make it. 633 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: They start dividing, myosis, my toe, my god. 634 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 2: And like I think about how much like when you're 635 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 2: a teenager you have growing pains, like I had bad 636 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 2: and pains, and. 637 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, especially in the legs. Well they don't have legs, 638 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: so maybe it's fine. 639 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, they just they just kind of go out. 640 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:27,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, what pancake. Well, uh, before we go, we do 641 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 1: have to play a little game. It's called the Mystery 642 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: Animal Sound game. Every week I play a mystery animal 643 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: sound and you the listener, and you the guest, try 644 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: to guess who is squawking' wow, let me take that again. Uh, 645 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: and you the guests try to guess who is squawking. 646 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,760 Speaker 1: Let's guess who's squawking. So last week's mystery animal sound, 647 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: the hint was this happy hollow Wayne from this loud 648 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: little aquatic gentleman. All right, we're able to hear that. 649 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, is that a bat? 650 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: Uh? That's a very good guess. It does sound a 651 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: little bit like a bat, But no, this is the 652 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: lesser water boatman. Uh. Micro Netta shalt seal. That is 653 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: that there's a lot of consonants in this name. It's 654 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:35,359 Speaker 1: Microta schultzee. So it is an oval aquatic insect only 655 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: around two millimeters long that produces an incredibly loud sound 656 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: by rubbing its penis against its abdomen. It's kind of like, 657 00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:48,959 Speaker 1: you know, like a spoon and a washboard kind of thing, 658 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,720 Speaker 1: or one of those like weiro instruments that you played 659 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 1: as a kid in elementary school. 660 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 2: But it's a penis on an abdomen. 661 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: But it is a penis on an abdomen. Uh. This 662 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 1: is something called stridulation. It's similar to what crickets do, 663 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: but in this case it's with a penis. 664 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 2: And you're so beautiful. 665 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: It's glorious, it's beautiful and it is you know, I 666 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: dig it. This musical singing penis can reach volume up 667 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: to ninety nine decibels. That's very loud. That's like, you know, 668 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 1: that's almost jackhammer loud. Fortunately, the water protects us from 669 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 1: being subjected to the sound at full volume, so we 670 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 1: really don't hear it like that loud. It's always underwater 671 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: when it's making these stridulations. So but yeah, that is 672 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: the You know, it's kind of fun when a guy 673 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 1: just serenades you, but with his wiener, with. 674 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 2: His wiener, you know, and it's so loud that it's 675 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 2: the sound like the sound of a jackhammer. 676 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, just imagine a guy playing a violin in a 677 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 1: very specific way way. 678 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,840 Speaker 2: Yes, oh god, all right, it's horrifying. Thank you for 679 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:08,919 Speaker 2: that vimage in my head. 680 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: You're very welcome. I thought that we could wash down 681 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 1: all of the cute babies stuff with like horrifying piece 682 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: instrument from above. Yes, get here, Yes, all right, onto 683 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: this week's mystery animal sound. The hint, Well, first of all, 684 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 1: this is an animal I learned from my guest Kara 685 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 1: Jaimo about an episode or so ago. And the hint 686 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 1: is this holy ray Fins Batman. All right Lydia got 687 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:47,800 Speaker 1: any guesses? 688 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 2: Is it? Is it a sting ray. 689 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 1: Ooh, that's a good guess. I definitely did say Rayfin 690 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 1: in there. That is a very good guess. Well, I 691 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 1: won't reveal the answer or not yet. You gotta wait 692 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 1: around until next week's Creature feature. Lydia, thank you so 693 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 1: much for joining me today to talk about Moo Dang 694 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 1: and Pesto and our beautiful little bean kangaroos. Where can people. 695 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 2: Find you on social media? I'm at you know, Lydia 696 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 2: on pretty much everything. It's yo you k and ow Lydia. 697 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 2: My biggest platform is probably TikTok. 698 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, I should figure out how that website works. 699 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 2: Just skip right past it and go to Snapchat. That's 700 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 2: where everybody is now. 701 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 1: Seriously, yes, I'm such a grandma. I can't like. I'm like, oh, 702 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 1: do we see how these tiktoks work? And it's like, 703 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,879 Speaker 1: now everyone's on Snapchat. Now you missed it. You missed it, 704 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 1: all right, Well, thank you guys so much for listening. 705 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,360 Speaker 1: If you're enjoying the show, you can leave a rating 706 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 1: or review. I read all the I appreciate all the reviews. 707 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 1: I got that mixed up. I read all the reviews, 708 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 1: and I appreciate all the ratings. Someone's gonna leave a 709 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 1: rating like cannot distinguish between reviews and ratings. One star 710 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 1: stars and thanks to the space Cossics for their super 711 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 1: awesome song Ex Solumina. Creature features a production of iHeartRadio. 712 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,240 Speaker 1: For more podcasts like the one you just heard, visit 713 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,439 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts, or Hey, guess what? Why 714 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 1: have you listen to your favorite shows? I don't judge you. 715 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 1: You live your own life, you follow your own dreams, 716 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:38,840 Speaker 1: give birth to two tiny beans, and you know, be 717 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 1: like Pesto enormous. See you next Wednesday.