WEBVTT - Drive Time: Post Draft Roster Reset Part 2, Defense 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:12.039 What is up, Dolphans And welcome to the Draft Time Podcast. 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:15.560 I am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's show, 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:19.640 part two of the post draft roster Reset brings us 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:22.520 to the defensive side of the football. I'll talk about 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:25.079 the importance of continuity and how we could see year 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:29.000 two of Anthony Weaver in this defense evolve and cover 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:32.360 all the personnel from the Baptist Health studios inside the 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:37.600 Baptist Health Training Complex. This is the Draft Time Podcast. 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:41.760 Friday was the offense, today the defense, and we did 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:45.720 the open on the offense and shift a little bit. 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:47.400 Let's go ahead and do the same thing here with 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:49.879 Anthony Weaver and the defense. And I lead off with 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:53.559 his name for a reason, I think one of the 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:57.840 most slept on aspects of any team right now in 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:00.840 the National Football League. And maybe I'm just not listening 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:06.319 to the right circles, but national media, social media, local media, 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:09.560 I don't read a lot. That's not fair to the 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:12.000 local media. Those guys have been really good to Anthony Weaver. 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:15.039 But besides that, I don't read a lot about Anthony Weaver. 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:20.080 And maybe that's because of the enigmatic head coach that 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:23.759 he works under. Perhaps I don't know, but I want 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:26.920 you to consider what he did last year and consider 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:30.759 what transpired across his roster in terms of the attrition 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:33.440 and depletion on that side of the football. I think 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:35.840 you start with the pressure rate, well, maybe not the 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:40.000 pressure rate, but the disruption rate, perhaps because the pressure 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:42.760 rate wasn't great. Twenty point six percent was twenty third 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:45.400 in the National Football leag They were twenty seventh in sacks, 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:49.320 but you know what they were seventh and third down defense, 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:52.520 which helped them finish fourth in total defense. And I 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:55.400 think those numbers can be fugezi a little bit. But 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:58.000 when you look at how the Dolphins arrived at their production, 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:01.800 a lot of it came through scheme, understanding of the 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:04.120 personnel on how to best get the how to get 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:06.400 the most out of that personnel, I should say, and 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:10.240 here's how all of that happens. So the TLDR, the 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:12.720 too long didn't read on the scheme is you get 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:16.200 multiple players in the front, really all of them capable 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:20.800 of pre snap alignments at multiple positions, which allows us 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:24.880 to introduce a simplistic blitz signal system that allows us 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:28.640 to incorporate a plethora of rush games that every player 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:29.919 understands from every position. 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:30.919 Do you guys with me so far? 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:34.040 So I can say purple, and I know that as 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:37.120 a five technique, I am slanting across the tackle's face 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:40.440 and that the three technique will loop around the outside. 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:43.160 It's a stunt, basically, right. And that's not a real 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:46.960 playbook phraseology. That's just a random note that I'm giving you. 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:49.359 I can say lamp, there's a lamp in this room 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:52.080 right here, or pillow, and you know on pillow that 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:54.679 the linebacker mugs up in the a gap that off 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:58.040 ball backer position, that the stack mic backer he mugs up, 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:00.799 and my defensive tackle drops out on the hook zone. 0:03:00.919 --> 0:03:03.480 Everyone knows what every call means from every position. You 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:06.960 got that, okay? And then in the secondary it's well 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:12.360 stitched together zone coverages with very believable disguises, timely man 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:15.800 calls and rotation to the hot receiver, paired with a 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:19.600 league average blitz rate. But that league average blitz rate 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:23.320 is really propped up by a very good sim pressure package, 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:25.840 which we'll talk about here more in one second. But 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:29.320 I think you could say, in addition to Chop Robinson, 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:34.680 Zach Seeler and Kalais Campbell, all capitalizing on one on 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:38.040 one situations when they got him. The thing that most 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:41.680 directly led to a solid defense for me was Weavers 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:47.480 defenses giving the opposing quarterback enough unique presentations to cause hesitation, 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:50.160 which typically gets punished. You know the Rams game, the 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:55.000 Niners game, the Texas game, Texas Texans game, and various 0:03:55.000 --> 0:03:58.840 other games against teams who didn't have quarterbacks at that level. 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:01.840 I use those teams because Stafford Purty and CJ. Stroud 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:04.560 are some of the best quarterbacks in the league and 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:08.040 other quarterbacks the aide o'connells of the world when you 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:12.320 played Jacoby Brissette in New England for example, right, But 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:16.200 those high level teams, the quarterbacks that struggled were confused 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:19.440 by what they saw from the Dolphins defensive presentation. Now, 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:22.240 like any defense in modern football, there were some not 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:25.600 so great games against Buffalo, against Green Bay, the Jets 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:27.839 at the end of the season, and on balance, I 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:29.800 think you could look to a few things that would 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:33.640 suggest that pressure rate increases, which will always directly correlate 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:34.760 to fewer points allowed. 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:35.640 And what does that mean? 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:39.159 That means more victories for y'all football team, And that's 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:42.640 having the difference rather having Bradley Chubb from the jump 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:45.680 compared to not at all last year. That's getting Jalen 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:48.760 Phillips for more than three and a half games ideally, right, 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:52.360 that's Chop Robinson's learning curve being vastly accelerated from where 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:54.760 it was at this time a year ago. And just 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:56.720 because it helps explain some of the depth issues in 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:59.320 the front seven that you encountered. I really hate going 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:03.160 back to this f I've mentioned his name twelve times 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:07.440 over the last you know, nine months, Robert Paulson Shaq 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:11.000 Barrett retiring four days before camp certainly didn't help your 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:13.119 edge position, and he was supposed to be that Andrew 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:15.760 Van Ginkle role. There was a split decision there, or 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:19.240 rather a decision about how they should allocate that resource, 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:22.840 and they went after Shaq Barrett and Andrew Van Ginkle 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:26.160 walked him Minnesota. And if Shaq Barrett had said I'm retiring, 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:29.200 that's probably Van Ginkle probably would still be here now. 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:31.600 I think one of the things that drove that communication 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:35.159 and the well tethered coverage was the presence on the 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:39.080 back end from three very good versatile cornerbacks, which I 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:41.240 you know, Miami had that in Ramsey and Fuller and 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:45.120 Cohu Fuller is gone, although I do think Kendall's December 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:47.919 really tailed off and that knee injury with that age, 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:50.440 like you can see where the riding was on the 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:53.120 wall there. The Ramsey situation remains up in the air, 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:55.479 but when you got a one away player, it's tough 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:59.800 to I guess Miles Garrett did do that same thing 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:02.200 couple couple months ago and came back, So I don't know, 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:05.240 but Caterkohu is coming off of, from my money, his 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:07.839 best season. And then you've got a bunch of questions 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:11.080 like does Cam Smith, Storm Duck, Ethan Bonner, Isaiah Johnson, 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:14.040 Jason Matriech, Can those guys make a step? Can Jason 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:16.560 Marshall Junior be a hit as a rookie? Is their 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:19.120 help on the way coming? We'll talk about that on 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:23.119 the Wednesday podcast. I believe that will be decided in time, 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:24.800 and I can't sit here and lie to you and 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:26.560 tell you that I'm confident that it will look better 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:28.440 than what it was a year ago on paper. But 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:30.560 I do tend to lean the way of trusting Anthony 0:06:30.600 --> 0:06:33.440 Weaver's vision for that side of the football, and as 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:36.600 you get to safety. That's a group that's been totally 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:40.320 remade too right, and an absolute needed one. In my opinion, 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:43.320 I felt the often safety position last year was not 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:45.880 just the worst safety group in the NFL, one of 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:48.480 the worst safety position or one of the worst positions 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:52.080 of any group across the entire football field in the 0:06:52.200 --> 0:06:56.760 entire league. And I felt there were context clues that 0:06:56.839 --> 0:06:59.160 forecasted a little bit of what Weavers looking for in 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:01.680 terms of building it to match his scheme, to more 0:07:02.440 --> 0:07:05.120 reflect what his influences have taught him, you know, going 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:10.120 back to oh my gosh, what just Romeo Crenell totally 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:13.240 blaked on Crnell's name, or with Mike McDonald and Baltimore, 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:15.360 And one of those things was the attachment to a 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:19.720 number of freaky trait safeties, right and the ultimate signing 0:07:19.800 --> 0:07:22.720 of if emlafon Wu, who checks that box in a 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:26.080 big way. So I think there's more to unferral from 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:28.680 coach Weaver in terms of the menu of his playbook. 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:31.240 You know, our first time, our first year with the 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:34.040 same DC and back to back season since Josh Boyer, 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:36.480 the first time under Mike McDaniel, he's had that a 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:39.520 chance to start further ahead, and that's something coach talked 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:42.280 about being very excited about on the Draft Time podcast 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:43.080 not that long ago. 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:47.600 I'm super excited because I felt a tangible shift last 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:53.080 year during the season on when collectively the whole. 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:53.480 Group got it. 0:07:53.640 --> 0:08:00.120 Yeah, and I had felt that the year previous, and 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:06.040 to be able to start in the off season program 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:08.320 closer to you know what I think it's all about, 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:13.080 which is, you know, focusing on technique and fundamentals more 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:16.720 so than anything, it just takes your whole pie of 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:25.960 time allotment and significantly emphasizes and creates a much larger 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:29.840 larger piece of the pie that is technique and fundamental development, 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:34.640 which is ultimately what you want to do that continuity. 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:40.160 I'm very excited because I think it's the perfect storm 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:44.320 of really really liking schematically where we're at, and then 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:48.520 guys being able to build upon something, which which is 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:51.679 a huge That's what the off season is about. 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:52.320 Man. 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:54.440 The way I had to find that clip and to 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:57.599 get it on the program here, let's just say Travis's 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:01.080 old editing skills wouldn't have cut the mustard as it were. 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:03.679 Let's go ahead and get into the roster here and 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:06.400 start on the interior, where things look much different now 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:08.280 than they did just two weeks ago. In the defensive 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:12.760 tackle position, Zach Seeler, Kenneth Grant, Benito Jones. Although I 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:16.160 am if I'm stacking the depth chart for my purposes, 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:20.080 I'm going with Jordan Phillips as the third defensive tackle 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:23.080 in Benito Jones next, then Zeke bigger Is, Matthew Dickerson, 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:27.040 Neil Ferrell, and u DFA Alex Huntley. The way we 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:30.320 really overcame the attrition off the edge last year was 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:33.320 expanding the workload of a few of his best, most 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:37.520 versatile players, which speaks positively about what he can do 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:40.600 not just in twenty twenty five, but beyond. And this 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:44.800 meant a probably bigger than planned workload for Kalais Campbell 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:48.760 at six hundred steps. Zach Seeler continuing to access Goblin 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:50.560 mode for the sixth straight year and doing it at 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:53.480 an eighty percent workload. Aside from having an orbital bone 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:56.520 broken that cost him the first two miss games of 0:09:56.559 --> 0:09:58.840 his career and that's all he missed, and that put 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:02.480 more impetus on to Sean Hand and Benito Jones. So 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:05.600 Kalayas has gone DeShawn also has gone and in their 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:08.600 place is arguably the best defensive tackle in the draft. 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:10.240 I think he was the best player in the draft 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:12.800 of the position, a fifth round defensive tackle who I 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:15.520 felt could have easily been a late Day two pick, 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:18.400 and then another pick in the seventh round in Zeke 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:21.640 Bigger's And let's actually discuss Zach Stealer here, because he 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:24.160 is the straw that stirs the drink right miss two 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:27.920 games in his career again, broken freaking Eyeball plays every 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:30.840 position out of the five technique all the way inside, 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:34.160 can beat NFL tackles around the edge and destroy guards 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:38.240 in the center with premiere length, inside determination, and brute strength. 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:40.840 He's a pivotal part of those rush games we mentioned 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:43.520 up top. And he's a straw because he's the one 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:45.720 that you can slot in at any of the ten 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:48.760 plus positions across the front five tech in both ways. 0:10:49.200 --> 0:10:52.400 He also allows you to get creative in your front 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:55.079 rotation because he can be part of any of them, 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:57.199 and he can play sixty snaps a game. He's our 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:01.400 justin Mattabuke, only more productive most sacks among any defensive 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:04.600 tackle in the NFL over the last two years, elite, elite, 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:07.480 elite player. He might be the best defensive tackle in football, 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:09.080 and he still can't make a damn Pro Bowl. 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:09.840 Figured that one out. 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:12.880 Then I look at KG in a different vein as 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:16.360 the one occupied by Kalayis. Kalais was like Zach Seeler 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:19.319 in that he's a three technique first, but his next 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:22.480 most frequent spot is working out towards the end. KG 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.200 is a three technique who first works inside towards the 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:28.920 zero the nose tackle position, and he is an elite 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:32.600 interior rusher with size, power, length, heavy and aggressive hands, 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:34.480 and light feet not just for a three hundred and 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:36.960 forty pound man, but light feet for somebody who weighed 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:40.120 three hundred and fifteen pounds. And speaking of the rush 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:44.200 prowess inside, we talked about Jalen Carter, Elijah Cansei who 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:46.760 was the third name. It was another big time monster inside. 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:48.520 There was three guys over the last five years that 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:52.280 had better interior Byron Murphy, better interior pass rush win 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:54.760 rates than Kenneth Grant, and those guys were all like 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:56.920 three hundred and fifteen, three hundred and twenty pounds. He's 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:59.920 three forty gives you elite run defense and he's am 0:12:00.160 --> 0:12:03.320 a dominant interior pass rusher and he's got more room 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:03.800 to grow too. 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:04.959 But that's getting off script. 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:09.520 I think that can be the lynchpin inside those two 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:11.920 guys being your you know, your Zach and your Kalayas 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:14.480 from last year. And then you get Jordan Phillips, you know, 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:16.960 kind of a platoon player with Benito Jones on the 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:19.439 nose tackle who can both moonlight in the three two 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:22.680 two I technique. That's more Jordan Phillips game for my money, 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:24.319 And make sure to check out a new episode of 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:27.000 Dolphins HQ this week round breaking down all the rookies 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:28.160 with one play scouting. 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:30.000 And I have a clip of Jordan Phillips. 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:31.800 I am very excited to show you guys about with 0:12:31.840 --> 0:12:34.440 his wrestling background and how he can win in multiple 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:38.720 ways in the sport. I watched, you know, watching his tape, 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:40.160 you kind of wonder why he was on the nose 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:42.000 three hundred and twenty pounds as much as he was, 0:12:42.480 --> 0:12:44.320 But then it's like, oh, yes, because he can play 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:47.480 that strong and you really see that wrestler background there. Man, 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:49.840 he can hit a quarkscrew technique, which is basically where 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:52.800 you turn your shoulder into a gap against a double team, 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:55.280 so the attached player has a smaller target point to 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:57.880 launch at you and can't get a clean piece of you. 0:12:58.240 --> 0:12:59.760 And as you do that, you hold the point of 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:02.719 a against the other faction of the double team, you 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:04.840 can drop the knee and cause the pile up. He 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:07.400 just has a really good kinetic feel for his body 0:13:07.400 --> 0:13:10.480 and his own pliability. That position went from a big 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:12.640 question mark in my opinion, to you know, as and 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:14.560 we didn't know who the hell was gonna play snaps 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:17.480 alongside Zach Steeler to one that I feel pretty good 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:19.320 about all of a sudden, Let's go ahead and pause 0:13:19.360 --> 0:13:21.920 for our first break. Come back and do edges and linebackers. 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:24.440 We'll finish up with the defensive backfield. All of that 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:27.800 next Draftime podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought to you 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:28.120 by It. 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:28.760 I don't nation. 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:34.880 So the interior of the defensive line is vastly improved. 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:38.040 How about the outside of it? Chop Robinson, Jalen Phillips, 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:40.040 Bradley Chubb. How do you want to stack those guys? 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:42.120 I don't really care how you do it. I think 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:44.800 Chubb and Phillips can be based down defenders more than 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:46.840 Chop can. Then Chop is kind of your wild card, 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:48.520 but he can rush for multiple spots, and I think 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:50.880 can play the run well enough to be a seventy 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:53.480 five percent snap taker. From there, it's kind of muddy 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:56.160 about how you want to stack it. Quentin Bell, cam Good, 0:13:56.559 --> 0:14:00.000 Moe Kamara, Grayson Murphy, William Bradley King, and Derek MC. 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:02.800 I think you could argue that you could use one 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.040 more name in there. You're kind of fourth guy, your 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:08.440 Shaq Barrett, if you will, because we saw Chubb and Phillips, 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:10.840 although we didn't count on Chubb right away last year 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:13.280 with a first round pick and Robinson with that free 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:16.000 agent contract with Barrett, you don't really have that fourth 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:17.800 guy right now. But we'll see what it looks like 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:19.359 come September. 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:20.280 What was it October? 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:22.440 We talked about this group to the top two segments. 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:24.520 We'll go ahead and pull the defensive tackle group in 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:27.280 here as well. Having three and a half games total 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:30.640 of Chubb and Phillips reminded me how much I missed 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:33.240 what they brought to the table just against the run. 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:36.360 Back in twenty twenty three. I remember reporting on this 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:38.640 all throughout camp. The emphasis they would put on an 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.360 individual drills, and it carried over into team and they 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:43.640 would get this great test every single day against the 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:46.120 best outside zone team in the league that year, and 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:47.760 they would hold their own and they would do it 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:51.000 against Ron Armstead and Austin Jackson and any other guys 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:53.200 that came in their way, Kendall Lamb and from there 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:57.040 you can consider what their return does to Seler being 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:59.760 inside more to keeping him in there. But also we 0:14:59.840 --> 0:15:02.520 just didn't have a player like even with Kalais, we 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:05.240 did not have a player of Kenny g's ilk. 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:05.840 We just didn't. 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:08.720 He's the way he moves at that size. There's not 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:11.040 many guys in the world that look like that, And 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:13.880 I have to imagine that that's a reason why you 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:18.720 pass on Jaday Baron and Tyler Warren and Gray's Abel 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:21.640 and Josh Simmons and whoever you know, whoever else you 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:23.880 thought might be a possible pick there at number thirteen, 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:27.800 Because there's like six of these guys on the planet. 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:31.160 You know, they're like the rarest breed, the rarest form 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:33.720 of football player, guys that size that move that well. 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:36.160 Dexter Lawrence is probably the best example of that. Devandre 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:38.160 Sweat last year a good example of that, and he 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:41.440 was flat out dominant in Tennessee. Both those defenses run 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:44.280 the same defense, don't we run? And yeah again, Kalais 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:47.600 was awesome, But biggest player on the field is going 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:49.800 to be Kenneth Grant every single Sunday. He's a better 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:53.000 athlete than eighty percent, if not your entire offensive line. 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:55.080 And what that can do for a defense that played 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:57.840 in their nickel base package better than seventy five percent 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:01.600 of the time. That's defending the run light boxes right, Well, 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:04.200 that's why you go get a big body nose tackle again, 0:16:04.360 --> 0:16:06.760 just like the Ravens with Michael Pierce for years, three 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:09.400 hundred and sixty pounds inside, like the Titans getting to 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:12.760 Andre Sweat last year in another Ravens Tree defense, three 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:16.560 hundred and sixty pounds to Andre Sweat. Extra credit. If 0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:20.040 you remember the Defensive Tackle snapload Breakdown podcast and you 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:23.440 remember the Seahawks not having the big nose tackle on 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:26.200 their roster, well what do they do to rectify that? 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:30.000 They claimed Brandon Peeley, who I didn't think could play 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:31.800 at this level, but he's a big body, and they 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:34.400 signed Quentin Bohanna, a three hundred and thirty five pound 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:38.400 nose tackle, So you get it. It's a universally seen 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:42.520 as imperative role within this defense, and that's for a reason. 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:45.040 It compensates for the loss of size you get from 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:47.920 taking a linebacker off the field and bringing a defensive 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:51.600 back onto the field and playing in two high structures 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:55.440 without that extra run defender in the fit, because Kenneth 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:57.720 Grant can basically clog two gaps and play one of 0:16:57.760 --> 0:16:58.560 your gaps as a fit. 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:00.640 And then there's the pass USh. 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:03.800 Jalen Phillips showed you even off the Achilles injury that 0:17:03.840 --> 0:17:06.480 he was blossoming just in the same way he was 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:08.320 right when he got hurt against the Jets back in 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:11.119 twenty twenty three. The speed rush, the bowl rush, the 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:13.879 speed to power, ability to rush off the edge or 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:17.240 from the three technique. Just a dominant player who's seen 0:17:17.320 --> 0:17:20.920 his career essentially put on pause for the last one 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:22.840 and a half months. Can you count on that? I 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:25.960 think that's the question you have here. But knowing JP 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:28.480 personally and how he goes about his business, I would 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:31.800 be stunned if he does not refine the form that 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:34.560 he played at previously. It's just going to be about 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:37.920 keeping the body healthy. And again, these players are forgotten 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:40.280 about from a national perspective, Right, I'm guilty of this, 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:43.600 Like I forgotten about TODJ. Washington last year, Right. And 0:17:43.640 --> 0:17:45.000 that's when you haven't made a play in the league, 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:46.920 becase you're a rookie. But when you get hurt, it's 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:48.119 easy to be forgotten about. 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:48.439 Man. 0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:51.320 But that's just what we do. We is in the 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:54.120 Royal We with injured players. But if JP gets back 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:57.879 and he becomes that fifteen sack potential player, dude, that 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:00.800 changes freaking everything. Because when you talk about this defensive 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:04.520 backfield and the you know, lack of name power within it, 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:07.359 you're worried about the defense. But it's like if you 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:09.760 if Jelen Phillips is on the same track that he 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:12.359 was when he got Hurgans the Jets, it changes the 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:15.400 entire equation. So I think that would go a long 0:18:15.440 --> 0:18:18.359 way towards elevating the team. You can't count on it, 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:21.919 but you can you can see it's a possibility. And 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:24.800 we haven't even gotten to Chop Robinson yet, who I 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:29.120 think has rare traits and makes players. You know, that's 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:32.240 the traits that make players great. He's got them. Like 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:35.960 the getoff, the way he developed his bend ability around 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:39.119 the edge, his technique, his hands, giving himself outs to 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:41.560 strike guys, you know, to not strike his chest and 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:43.760 keep himself clean so he can rip around that corner. 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:47.000 And we barely began to scratch the surface on bringing 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:49.000 him over the football and the a gaps the way 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:51.440 Penn State did as a nosebacker. We started to see 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:53.040 it late in the year. But that's the strength of 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:56.960 Jordan Brooks, of Willie Gay. If you Fatum LaFond again, 0:18:57.080 --> 0:19:00.439 interchangeable rush games for this defense upfront. I think that 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:06.000 Chop is poised to make a huge jump. I think 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:08.120 him and JP are both gonna have ten sacks this year. 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:12.320 Is that crazy? If they both play seventeen games, both 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:14.560 Chop and JP, you are gonna have ten sacks. Then 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:16.639 you have an interesting battle for the depth spots. And 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:18.439 this is where I kind of have an issue, or 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:20.399 not an issue, but a hard time sorting how it 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:23.680 might look. Quentin Bell, Mo Kamara, Cam Good and then 0:19:23.720 --> 0:19:26.600 my favorite dark horse on the entire roster, And right 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:28.960 now I'm gonna slot him as the fourth come like 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:29.800 week number five. 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:32.479 It might not happen right away. But it's Grayce and Murphy. 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:34.760 Murphy's gonna be a player in this league, okay, And 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:37.320 I would stake reputation points on that. He is so 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:40.720 dang good. He's so dang physical, and he gets hurt 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:43.320 on the first damn series of the preseason after having 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:47.320 a really good series in that game. His power, his rush, polish, 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:50.119 his length, his hand usage, there's a reason he was 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:52.920 getting pressures in sacks every damn day in camp last year, 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:55.080