1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to Indianapolis for the program that 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: usually brings you inside inn RG Stadium. We are not there. 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: We are in the Indianapolis Convention Center and it's the 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: NFL Scouting Combine Mark Vandermer and John Harris with you 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: will have John Clayton, in just a moment, Jeff Joniac, 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: voice of the Bears, to talk about a number of things. 7 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: This is going to be really interesting stuff tonight. If 8 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: you're a football fan, you must listen to this program. 9 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: It's required listening. John correct, absolutely no doubt. And we'll 10 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: get a chance to see Jeff Joniac in hopefully October. Yeah, 11 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: that's Tember October. Gonna go over that with him, and 12 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: also Paul Allen, the voice of the Vikings, who talks 13 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: about a number of things, including the astros that comes 14 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: up in the conversation. Yeah, and horse racing, believe it 15 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: or not at all comes up. But let's begin with 16 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: our buddy, John Clayton taking a seat next to us 17 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: right now. John, I want to start right here because 18 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: we've all seen the Sports Center program. Mom, I'm done 19 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: with my segment. Does that come into play in your life? Still? 20 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: I can't go through the airport without somebody saying, Okay, 21 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: do you where's you're here? Is it typed in or whatever? 22 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: And I basically say, you know, it's stucked in, but no, 23 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: it's it's constant. And you know what's nice is that 24 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: because of that commercial, and you know, in twenty two 25 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: years at ESPN, I can't go through too many public 26 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: places without somebody taking selfies. Right. Oh, it's like I've 27 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: never had selfies before. Of course I don't know me 28 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: because selfies weren't there then before the commercial, but it's 29 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: like now there's like so many selfies. And so I 30 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: still remember even going into locker room like you Jimmy Graham, uh, 31 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: you know, wanted to take a selfie back before he 32 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: came up to Seattle. This is when he was down 33 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: with New Orleans. And I still remember, like in the 34 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: Steeler locker room, you know, different guys Darius Heyward Bay 35 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: wanted to get you know, selfies and stuff like that. 36 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: It's just kind of remarkable, but that commercial was a 37 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: gold mine. I loved it. John. You're up in Seattle, 38 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: so obviously you see the Seahawks on a pretty daily basis. 39 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: Now you coverly had a felm We'll get into all that. 40 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: But Seahawks gets a division around and loose to the Packers. 41 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: What's the thought they're locally about what the Seahawks are, 42 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: because in some sense you could almost got them and 43 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: say they're kind of similar to the Texans. They've got 44 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: a transcendent quarterback. They now I've got an a point 45 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: where they put some pieces around them, but maybe they 46 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: still are lacking some pieces and they get to the 47 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: divisional round. But are they built to one of Super Bowl? What? 48 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: What's kind of the local thought about? What thought is 49 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: that they're a team on the rise and they're clothes, 50 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: but they're not there yet, and this offseason will start 51 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: to define them, you know, because you know what they 52 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: ended up doing is it? You know? Even though the 53 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: Jadevian Clowney trade worked out great for them, he was sensational, 54 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: but of course now his contracts up, he's going to 55 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: be a free agent and they can't franchise them, you know, 56 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: can they keep them? And he's going to command twenty 57 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: one to twenty two million dollars a year. I think 58 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: they're willing to go like about eighteen or nineteen. But 59 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 1: the big problem that they had and the thing that 60 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 1: kept them back two things from going to the Super Bowl, 61 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: because going into Week sixteen, they were the number one seat, 62 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: believe it or not. And that's even though they weren't 63 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: the best team. I mean, they were a number one 64 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: seat because they won ten close games. But then what 65 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: ended up happening, you know, their pass rush. Even though 66 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: Clowney is a great disruptor, he's not a sack guy, 67 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: all right. So now all of a sudden, they get 68 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: twenty eight sacks where they need forty. All right, they 69 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: rank twenty six in yards allowed, and that's uncharacteristic of 70 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: a Pete Carroll team. And because of that, you'll peek 71 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: Hero had to design a bend but don't break defense, 72 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: which is something he hasn't done in the longest time. Now, 73 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: if they can get the pass rush right, they'll be 74 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: in good shape. Russell Wilson, who's had was an MVP 75 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: type season, you'll basically said, we need a few more stars. 76 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: And they're both in agreement, both management and Russell Wilson. 77 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: So the first move they get Greg Olsen. Now I 78 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: know he's an aging star, but he helps him out 79 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: because they're tied in Will Disney's coming off an Achilles injury. 80 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: And so now if they can get the pass rush 81 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: and get a defense it limits teams to twenty one points, 82 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: they'll get twenty five twenty six points again, and then 83 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: they would have a chance to be a legitimate number 84 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: one seed. Would killed him in the final in a 85 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: thirteen day period, They've lost their top three running backs 86 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: and it was a running team, and so now all 87 00:03:55,760 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're down to Travis Homer, who was 88 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: a pretty talented young rookie, and they had to get 89 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: two guys out of retirement, Robert Turbin and Marshawn Lynch, 90 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: and so the running game betrayed them in the final 91 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: couple of games, and so that just held them back 92 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,839 Speaker 1: and they lose two home games. Had they won one 93 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: of them, they would have been would maybe the third seed. 94 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: If they won both of them, then they would have 95 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: been the number one seed and they have a good 96 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: chance to go to the Super Bowl. John Clayton with 97 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: US on Texans Radio. So the NFC West last two 98 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: Super Bowl participants out of the NFC, out of that division, 99 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: you think it's going to be a trifecta here this year. 100 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I have to see what they do in 101 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: the PA because I know last year I said if 102 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: they don't get a pass rush, they're gonna win nine games. 103 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: They're gonna win nine games, but they ended up winning 104 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: eleven in a playoff game, so they surprised me on 105 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: that part. But if they can get that pass rush 106 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: and get that right, then they have a legitimate shot 107 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: to be a number one seed. But this is the 108 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: best division in football right now, you know, because San 109 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: Francisco There'll be a two to three game drop off 110 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: from the third team wins that they had this year 111 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: because that just happens to super Bowl teams. All right, 112 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: Rams will still see where they are. There's still a 113 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: playoff team, but maybe their super Bowl run is done 114 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: because they can lose enough players. With the cap and 115 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: free agency, Arizona is going to get better. Kyler Murray 116 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: has a chance to not make the jump that Lamar 117 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: Jackson had, but he has a chance to make a 118 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: big jump at quarterback. So now you're talking about, you know, 119 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: four teams that have quarterbacks, four teams that have good coaches, 120 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: four teams in that division that can challenge it. If 121 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: Arizona can get some defensive help, then all of a 122 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: sudden about you're talking about you know that that division 123 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,799 Speaker 1: is gonna be tough. You don't want to play them, right, Yeah, 124 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: no doubt, And luckily we don't match up with them 125 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: for another couple of years. And when I say we 126 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 1: said AFC South, Jar, what's the thoughts about the AFC South, 127 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: Because we've talked to a few people that say, hey, man, 128 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: AFC South, you got Titans go to the AC Championship game, 129 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: got Texas with Sean and what they were able to 130 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: do in the division. The Cults, you know, are probably 131 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: going to take a step ahead if they get the 132 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: quarterback right and Jacksonville kind of never known with them, 133 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: but you know two years ago there an AFC Championship 134 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: Game and they're probably a bad call away from maybe 135 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: going to the Super Bowl. What's the thought about the 136 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: AFC South? Yeah, I think right now it's a three 137 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: way a race, with Jacksonville being on the outside looking 138 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: in because you can see that they didn't make a 139 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: change at coach with Doug Moron, not that they should 140 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: they probably shouldn't have, but you know they've they've dropped off. 141 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you remember two years ago they're talking about 142 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: a team that had eight Pro Bowl guys on their 143 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: defense eighty eight and now all of a sudden they're 144 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: down to like three or four. I mean, they traded 145 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 1: away Jalen Ramsey, they have Telvin Smith retire. You know, 146 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: outgoes Marcel Darius. You know, Calais Campbell's still one of 147 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 1: the better defensive ends, but he's getting older, and so 148 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: their defense is not the same. Still good, but not 149 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: the same. And so and then on offense, I mean, 150 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: they had to rely on Gardner Minshew to bail them out. 151 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: But how good is Gardner Minshew going to be. He's exciting, 152 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: he's fun and all that stuff. So they've got more 153 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: issues than any team in the division. But then, I 154 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: mean you look at Houston and as you know, Deshaun 155 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: Watson I think is now considered that next wave of 156 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: the great quarterbacks. I mean he's you know, you look 157 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: at the AFC and the three young quarterbacks are now 158 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: taking over for the three older quarterbacks because Amy Patrick 159 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: Mahomes being number one, Watson probably being number two, and 160 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: then Lamar Jackson having the MVP season and so that's 161 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: all changed. And then you look at Tennessee, Well, they've 162 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: got a lot of issues, right now to figure out. 163 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: I mean, yesterday on Tuesday, listening to you know, the 164 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: general manager John Robinson. You know, you didn't get the 165 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: idea that it's a guarantee that Tannehill is going to 166 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: be back, right and to keep Derek Derek Harvey. You know, 167 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: they very mill or Derek Henry. They may have to 168 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: go and put the franchise tag and he may hold out. 169 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: So they have a lot of issues to figure out. 170 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: But that's a well coached team with Mike Vrabel. You know, 171 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: if they can get Tannehill back, he seems to be 172 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: the perfect quarterback for what they want to do. But again, 173 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: you know they're two keys on offense right now. Their 174 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: contracts are up. John Clayton with us, what about the 175 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: quarterback situation around the league? Really? Because in the AFC 176 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: South we have two teams with quarterback question marks, the 177 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: Colts and the Titans, and maybe the Jags as well. 178 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: And then you look at what could happen in New England. 179 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: We already know Rivers is in play. What do you 180 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: think happens here with some of these dominos? And I mean, 181 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: you can't figure out where all of them are going 182 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: to go because I mean there's so many, so many openings, 183 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: and we're seeing the biggest transition in quarterbacks probably we've 184 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: ever seen, because now there's a realization that was coming 185 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: out of college is mobile quarterbacks, and right now defense 186 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: defensive coaches haven't figured out what to do to stop 187 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: mobile quarterbacks. And so because of that, you know, now 188 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: the older quarterbacks, the non mobile quarterbacks, they're all getting 189 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: phased out, and so you know how that transition is 190 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: going to go. So like, for example, you know, the 191 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: big one obviously is Tom Brady, and I think what 192 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: we're now kind of getting the idea is that they 193 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: still figure that Brady's going to stay there, but it's 194 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: going to go down to the last day. You know, 195 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: you get down to that legal tampering time from the 196 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: sixteenth through the eighteenth. You know, then they got to 197 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: see if he's going to stay or if he's gonna go, 198 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: and that starts the ripple effect, and so you know, 199 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 1: it doesn't appear that he's going to go to the 200 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: Chargers because it looks like the Chargers we're going to 201 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: take the tacker going with Tyrod Taylor at quarterback. And 202 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: then you know drafting, you know, justin Herbert or a 203 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: quarterback and developing him. So that seems to be there. 204 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 1: You know. Now we see the Cam Newton is probably 205 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: going to stay in Carolina, which might be a little 206 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: bit of a surprise. No idea about Jamis Winston. If 207 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 1: Brady does go someplace, which Vegas was probably going to 208 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: be the one place he might go to the most. 209 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: If he doesn't go to New England, then you know, 210 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: then you can see, Okay, where does Derek Cargo? Does 211 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: he go to Chicago at a trade or where does 212 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: that happen? I mean? And then Marcus Mariota would be 213 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: a candidate for New England because I know Josh McDaniels 214 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: likes him. Or Andy Dalton could go there in a trade, 215 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: but there's so much movement right now that you can't 216 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 1: and the musical chairs is such that a couple of 217 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: these guys aren't going to get starting jobs. Don Clayton 218 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: with us at the scouting combine in Indianapolis, all right, 219 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: A couple of other things for you. You've been covering 220 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: this combine for a long time, so you've seen the changes, 221 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: and we talked to McLain a lot as well. So 222 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: your perspective on what you're seeing this year. I mean, 223 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: this is bigger than ever. They're going prime time, more 224 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: changes here. Yeah, i mean it's just so different. I 225 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: mean because I mean, this is now going to be 226 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: the shortest one that I've ever been to. Because normally 227 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: I would stay. He used to be till Monday, because 228 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: on Monday that was always one of the best days 229 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: because you know, you only had the defensive backs working out, 230 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 1: the gems and coaches and all that. They're popping out 231 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: more and you had a chance to catch up with them. 232 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: You can't got a lot of work done on Monday. 233 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: Well that kind of changed a little bit, and so 234 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: then he started leaving on Saturday. Well, now I'm leaving 235 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: on Thursday, because I mean we have one day basically 236 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: with the coaches and general managers. You know, you have 237 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: the interviews with the players and all that stuff. But 238 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: then you know, once you get the Thursday night, i 239 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: mean you're watching on TV. You can do that at 240 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: home as opposed to paying you know, three hundred dollars 241 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: a night for a room. And so it's like, Okay, 242 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: I think I'll fly home on this one. But yeah, 243 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: it's different. But again, you're right, how big it is 244 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: because you know, I predated McLean as far as because 245 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: I went in to nineteen ninety and we're over at 246 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: the Holiday Inn, and you know, we're sitting by the 247 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: elevator watching coaches getting our scouts getting in fights with 248 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: each other to try to get the guys into their 249 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,679 Speaker 1: rooms for interview. And so we're watching these fist fights 250 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: and all these different things, tugle wars and all that. 251 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 1: And of course then they started closing everything off once 252 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: they realized and we only had like nine writers in 253 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety that were there. Nine and so then the 254 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: next thing, you know, we were on we had to 255 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: go into the holiday in bar where they'd bring players 256 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: in for interviews. And next thing you know, it's like, okay, 257 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: Duke bab didn't like us media guys, and so he 258 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: basically put us in the lobby. He turned off the heat, 259 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: he took away all the chairs and all that stuff. 260 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: Now now we have lunches, we have meteor row that, 261 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: we have podiums. I mean, think about this. I mean, 262 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: you know, if the best player, i mean junior say 263 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: out had to come into the bar area just for 264 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: an interview with the nine people that were there, or 265 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: we caught him over by the elevator. What a different 266 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: sad issue. And now we got the convention Center where 267 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: we've got more room than we probably know what to 268 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: do with. Oh yeah, I mean it's it's it's unbelievable. 269 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: All this thing is grown. John. One more for you radio. 270 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: How do you like doing it on a daily based 271 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: It's fantastic. Yeah, it's funny because it was always the writer, right, 272 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: I mean started when I was seventeen, covering the Steelers, 273 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: writing and all that stuff. But radio was always a partner. 274 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: Of course, if you were a newspaper guy back then, 275 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: they always hated you because it's like you know, Fortunately 276 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: I was a newspaper guy, so they kind of liked me, 277 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: but they didn't like the radio guys back then. Okay, 278 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: so it's like it because we want control. We were 279 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: in the newspaper business and all that stuff. But I 280 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: always loved doing radio, and so like I did it 281 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: all through college. I mean I had like sixteen radio 282 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: jobs all through college. I was doing AP radio when 283 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: I was nineteen years old and all that stuff. College 284 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: Dukeane University in Pittsburgh, and so then you know, back 285 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 1: after a while in Pittsburgh, they wouldn't let me do radio, 286 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: so I end up going to Tacoma News Tribune where 287 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: I started to be able to do radio. But I 288 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: love it. I mean it's like, you know, having the ability, 289 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: and that's the great part, because you know, having done 290 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: the radio that at least allowed me, with not the 291 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: best looks in the world, to be able to do 292 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 1: TV because now it's like, okay, fine, I can get 293 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: everything done in forty five seconds or left and get 294 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: a lot of information and talk fast. So it's like, no, 295 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: I love it. And of course I love filling in 296 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: on Sirius. I'm moving to Chains and all the shows there. 297 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: It's an absolute blast. I love taking phone calls. I 298 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: guess the one thing I even love more than anything, 299 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: it's interviewing, just having a chance to interview, ask the 300 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: questions because I don't know how you do it, but 301 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: it's like the way I do it. I go into 302 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: any every interview, I have no idea what my first 303 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 1: question is going to be. Absolutely no time. I was like, 304 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: it's like, hey, I have no idea. It's like, but 305 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: then what you do is that you listen. You listen 306 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: to what the person says, and then you react to 307 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: that actual conversation, right, yeah, because what drives you crazy 308 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: is it has some people that say, you know, it's 309 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: like I remember I was talking to Marky's good one 310 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: and he was saying, well, you know, I had so 311 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: many problems with my family and that the year before that. 312 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: It really affected me, you know. I somehow I was 313 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 1: able to get through in the second half of the season. 314 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 1: And of course then the next verse says, so what 315 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: do you think about the forty nine or offense? It's like, 316 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: no, no no, no, no, no, So what happened to you 317 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: in that previous year? And then you get the great story. 318 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: But if you if you don't listen, you don't get 319 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: the story. This is great stuff. This is class with 320 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: John Clay. Absolutely, I love this. You definitely put on 321 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: a class, correct, I mean you teach at UW right, 322 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't know. Okay, it was funny. I 323 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: didn't show. No. I did an online class for Dukane 324 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: University Skype for about three four years. How is that, 325 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: d Well, you were truly the professor at that exactly. Yeah, 326 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 1: and I didn't even have to get a master's degree. 327 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: It was even better than that. Joining us. All right, 328 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: there's our buddy John Clayton from ESPN seven ten in 329 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: Seattle where Paul Gallant or other buddy, Well, we have 330 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: more buddies than just those two where he works as well. 331 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: Coming up, it's Jeff Joniak, Voice of the Bears. John 332 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: and I are also going to talk about the Texans 333 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: News of the week, Tim Kelly, how's it all gonna work? 334 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: We'll discuss that, among other things next on Texans Radio. 335 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: Keeping it going here from Indianapolis, the NFL Scouting com 336 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: by Mark Vanderman John Harris with you and Johnny. It's 337 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: my personal preference to not bench press today, which is 338 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: a line we've heard a lot today. You tweeted that 339 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: one out because why are these guys not benching here? 340 00:14:55,080 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: I listen, I I don't know. It bugs me to know. 341 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: And by the way, we're a few feet away from 342 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: the bench press arena for lack of a better way 343 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: of putting it, and they bring all the position groups 344 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: in here, and so far it hasn't exactly been a 345 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: plethora of participation, right. And what I don't understand is 346 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: it's the receivers. I mean, people care, but they don't 347 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: really look if it's linebackers and you're doing nine ten reps. Okay, 348 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: that's one thing. I guarantee you the guys that passed 349 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: for personal preference to wait for their pro day. Now, 350 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: say a guy like te Higgins, Maybe I can go 351 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: with a guy like te Higgins, because that's a that 352 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: was a long season that went into the middle of January. 353 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: He said he hasn't had a whole heck of a 354 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: lot of time to prepare, but he also declared early, 355 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: so he should have known this is gonna happen. Now 356 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: that all said, I just think there are some guys 357 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: at this combine. I said this earlier to Ron and 358 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: to Clint on Clint Show earlier today on ten. I 359 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: think this whole combine change that created some consternation amongst 360 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: the agents and maybe the players as a result. I 361 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: think some players are sort of hiding behind that. Oh no, 362 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: I was gonna wait till my pro day. This is 363 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: probably the year we've seen it more often than not, 364 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: being a case like all right, we're gonna let you 365 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: try in a whole combine thing for size, so to speaking. 366 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: The next year, we'll coach our guys up on how 367 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: to do it and how to master it, etc. And 368 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: I think, but I think the players are sort of 369 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: taking that to the extreme. And it's receivers benching. I mean, 370 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: come on, man, it is an absolute joke. Just go 371 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: up there and if you can do seven reps, do 372 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: seven reps. Yeah, noways going care Hey, I'll give you 373 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: one thing that could prevent the combine from being moved 374 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: if fewer guys work out period and it just becomes 375 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: the physicals and the interviews and being able to gather 376 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: everybody here for this NFL convention, if you will. That'll 377 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: take away from the glam of moving into an LA 378 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: because there will be nothing for the fans to see, 379 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: right absolutely at that point. All right, quick note, I 380 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: promised this and it was the big news yesterday, but 381 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: we've had over twenty four hours to digest and think 382 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: about it. It is exciting news with the Texans that 383 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien and the coaching staff adjustments, if you will. 384 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: I was talking to t J. Yates actually in the hallway, 385 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 1: congratulated him. Assistant quarterbacks coach Tim Kelly will coach to 386 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and be the offensive coordinator and call plays. All 387 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: of a sudden, he's got a ton on his plate. 388 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 1: YEA like that yeah, he does, but I like it. 389 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: I like it for Deshaun, I like it for Tim Kelly, 390 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: I like for TJ obviously. I just think, you know, 391 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: last year he had Bill Brian who was calling offensive plays, 392 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: and there was times where he had to have Deshawn's here. 393 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: Tim Kelly's offensive coordinator, he had to have Deshawn's here. 394 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: Carl Smith was quarterbacks coach, he had Deshawn's here. I mean, 395 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: you had a lot of people in Deshawn's ear, and 396 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: you and I are similar in that way, Like I'm 397 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: in your ear during a game and I think something 398 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: times that's too much, but it's like, just I just 399 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: need one person talking to me, just just one if 400 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: I can focus on one person talking to me and 401 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: not have that many people in my ears. Now, the 402 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: Shan's a little different Sean, you know, can he could 403 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: take all that information and go on the field and 404 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: do great things. But I just think it helps him 405 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: to be able to have it all funneled through Tim's 406 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: voice and he and Tim can then put it together 407 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: on the field, get the plan together off the field, 408 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: and then hopefully this marriage ends up being the right 409 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: one and a good one. And I think I think 410 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: it's great news. It doesn't mean that that Bill O'Brien 411 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: won't have him put on the offense. I mean, the 412 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: guy knows offensive football. Come on, he knows offensive football. 413 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: He is going to help. But I think having one 414 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: voice in Tim Kelly with the Sean, I think that 415 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: is going to maybe that streamlining process will help everybody 416 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: involved in the process, and the offense can get to 417 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: a point where it's one of the tops in the 418 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: league and you're gonna have to have it because you're 419 00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: gonna face some tough defenses. We'll see how the Bears 420 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: are gonna be as the Texas take on the NFC 421 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: North and the Bears and the Lions on the road 422 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: and sitting down with us right now, Jeff Joni Act, 423 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: the voice of the Chicago Bears here in Indianapolis. Jeff, 424 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: good to see you, my friend. Good to see you. 425 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: Mark one of my favorites. This is a rite of 426 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: passage every combine, right, You know certain guys John Miller 427 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: of the the Buffalo Bills, Mike Keith of the Titans. You, 428 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: Dan Horde from the Bengals. It's always good to see 429 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: you guys. That's right. Dan is here. Yeah, Dan is here. 430 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: We just we just broke it down. He's trying to 431 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: send me Andy Dalton already. I'm kidding. You know. It's 432 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: interesting from my perspective because obviously I've no Mark for 433 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: a long time. But it's funny because when you actually 434 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: meet the people that you listen to all the time. You, Jeff, 435 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: We're talking to somebody kind of behind us a little 436 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: while ago, and I was like, oh, I know that voice. 437 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: What is that voice? And then you turn a corner 438 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: and you said hello to Mark, and I was like, 439 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,719 Speaker 1: that's Jeff Jony. It's just getting to know the faces 440 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: that go with the voices that we've known for so long. Right, 441 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: Usually the faces are very disappointed, well better off heard 442 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: and not seen. You know, I thought you were a 443 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: lot taller than you were, but yeah, you know that's 444 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: the byproduct of being in it for as long as 445 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: we have been. You know, once you get once you 446 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: get to ten, and then this will be my twentieth, 447 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: twenty twenty will be my twentieth. It's just a remarkable. 448 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 1: So you started in oh one, yeah, okay, actually started 449 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: in ninety seven as a pre and post guy. Okay, 450 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: and then yeah one who was doing it. Then play 451 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: by play Wayne was doing it. There was somebody in between. Okay, 452 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,239 Speaker 1: so Wayne know who it was? Wait? Who was that? 453 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: No one can ever guess. I can win a lot 454 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: of money in speaking somebody. We know, we heard. You're 455 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: gonna tell me and I'm gonna know. I mean, I'm 456 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 1: gonna remember. For two years it was Gary Bender. Gary Bender. 457 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: I read his book. He wrote a book called Call 458 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,200 Speaker 1: of the Game, correct, and I read it. He's from 459 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: Kansas City or something SA Kansas yet. So yeah, yeah, 460 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: I used to do the Rams and uh yeah, over 461 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: the Bears after Wayne went to the Packers and then 462 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: I took over for Gary. Wayne is one of the 463 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: guys who's done multiple teams. There are too many. Howard 464 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: David Wow did the Jets of the Dolphins. Uh that yeah, 465 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: Wayne did Kansas City also. He did the Chiefs also, 466 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: but not right, wait a second, no, but Kansas City 467 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: and the Packers are fine. He did the Bears, yeah, 468 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: and the Packs? About this? How about this? Because you 469 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: do you go into this business, do you ever think 470 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna call a Super Bowl? Like you're Oh my god, 471 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get lucky enough to call an NFL game? 472 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 1: So Wayne's first year it was eighty five. Oh god. Yeah. 473 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: But he's a Packer fan by by heritage, right, yea, 474 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: so he ends up with the Packers his child. I 475 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: get that you ultimately end up with that team, but geez, 476 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: he's done at all. He's great. So I'm gonna ask 477 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: you that question. Yeah, what is it like to call 478 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: Super Bowl? Because you have to? Yeah, I mean, it 479 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 1: was the busiest week of my career because you know, 480 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: we're multitasking and it's now multitasking on steroids, you know, now. 481 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: Back then it was just starting to be that way. 482 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: So by the time Super Bowl Sunday rolled on, I 483 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: was wiped out. I was tired, I was nervous. I 484 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: was very nervous. We had to get to the stadium. 485 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: I remember they put us on because we had a 486 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: Bear's TV show that morning, but you had to get 487 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: there really early just to get through security and right, 488 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: so we're sitting there waiting for a nighttime kickoff after 489 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: and what are you doing all day? You just burning 490 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: time and you're tired and you're trying to But I 491 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 1: remember we night before the Super Bowl Mike Brown, who 492 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: was not healthy. He tore his achilles in the Arizona 493 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: comeback when that year night before the Super Bowl, I'm 494 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: just ready to go out and have a dinner and relax. 495 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: He goes, we're gonna talk. Bring your recorder. I got 496 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: something to say, and what's gonna go on here? So 497 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: we go out by the pool at the hotel in 498 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 1: Miami and he's bawling. He can't believe he's not going 499 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: to be able to play. Just what it means that 500 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: he's missing this, what the fans mean, what the game 501 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: means to him, And it was so emotional. It got 502 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: me so fired up. So we played that. That was 503 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: the first thing we opened our broadcast with Mega three 504 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: and a half hour coverage, and there wasn't a dry 505 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: eye in the booth. And I'm talking about seven time 506 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: consecutive Pro Bowler. J Hilgenberg was in the booth. Jim Schwantz, 507 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: who won a Super Bowl, played with the Cowboys and 508 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: Niners played for the Bears. Tom, I mean, we're jacked up, 509 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: and we still had, you know, four hours ago before kickoff. 510 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: And then I never, ever, ever, ever, even though he 511 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 1: tore it up in his rookie year and he became 512 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: mister ridiculous, I never considered the opening kickoff would be 513 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: returned for a touchdown. I just wanted to getting light 514 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: bulbs flashing, you know, Settle into the broadcast, take a 515 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: deep breath. You're calling the super Bowl. Yeah, and he 516 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: makes the patented one kind. I'm like, honestly, I want 517 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 1: to tell this story, not the jast. But half my 518 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: brain was thinking, oh my god, he's gonna score. You can't, 519 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 1: you can't blow this, and the other half was calling 520 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: the play. Yeah, it was a slow motion. I'm like, 521 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: I just can't. That's never happened before or since, and 522 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: it may never happen again. It's so funny with play 523 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: by play because people ask me, and I know they 524 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: ask you, but every play could turn out to be 525 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: the greatest play you've ever seen, right So first and ten, 526 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: it your forty two yard line could turn into oh 527 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: my gosh, especially with guys like DeShawn Watson, so that 528 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: I can totally relate to something like that, where Wow, 529 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: I've got this incredible moment right here. It's the super Bowl. 530 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: I'd be on pins and needles anyway. And the first 531 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: play you have to deliver in that fact after you 532 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: and you know what, I didn't listen to the call 533 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 1: for a year. I was afraid I stray, I blew it. 534 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 1: I was afraid of how do you feel? It's fine? Good? 535 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: I mean it so late they played it in the 536 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: stadium when they were introducing the top one hundred guys 537 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl in Miami, and all I heard 538 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 1: was a part of the call that Devin hester yard 539 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: and I literally started king, had you said that? Had 540 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: you ever said that before? St. Louis Ram game? It 541 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,479 Speaker 1: was Saint Louis Ram game. Yeah, it was a second 542 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: return in the game for a touchdown, and I can 543 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 1: still see it in my mind's eye. I started giggling 544 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: before because there was so much space. I'm like, in 545 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: my mind, he's gonna do it again. And so I 546 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: just couldn't believe they kept kicking to him. And so 547 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: I do say that word a lot. Yeah, I say 548 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: insane and ridiculous a lot of my daily conversation, usually 549 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: with an inappropriate word attached to it. So when he 550 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: said I, it just blurred it out and I didn't 551 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: think anything of it. And after the game, because right 552 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: right after the player that the TV monitor, I glanced 553 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: up and I said, Lovey Smith's jaw just literally dropped 554 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: because he did. He was like, and that's that's how 555 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: everyone felt. He keeps on doing it, and he does 556 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: it in the Super Bowl. But I come out to 557 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: the team bus in Saint Louis and Mike Mulligan was 558 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: writing for I think it was a triber of times. 559 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: I don't remember now, but he's a big talk show 560 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: host in Chicago now with the score and he goes, hey, yeah, 561 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: your call your car. Everybody's talking about Ido. What do 562 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: you mean. I didn't think anything of it. It took off. 563 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you just don't understand why things like that 564 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: take off. Devin, Devin loves it. I see was that 565 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 1: soldier field for the Kansas City game this past season 566 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: and took a picture of his whole family. I mean, 567 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: we're tethered. It's weird. It's just a weird convergence of 568 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: being fortunate, right place, right time for a great play man. 569 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: It's one of the great things about this business to 570 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: be part of a moment like that. And you didn't 571 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: win the game, you know, correct, I mean that you 572 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: were going to know well, I know, but at least 573 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: you have that and the fans have that. And Johnny 574 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: was asking what it's like to call a Super Bowl 575 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 1: Jeff Joni a Voice of the Bears with us, and 576 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,239 Speaker 1: at least you got there, and you know, we'd love 577 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: to get there and obviously win it. We'll see what 578 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 1: happens with the Houston Texans, who are going to be 579 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: at Soldier Field this year. And it's only the third 580 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: ever visit for the Texans to your stadium, and they've 581 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: both been bad weather games both visits. Previously. One was 582 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: around zero to three degrees in two thousand and four. 583 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: You can't even feel your mouth when you're trying to 584 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: enunciate the play we talk about. We talked about that 585 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: one all the time because I remember it was brutal. Yeah, 586 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: my pen was freezing, the water was freezing. I had 587 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,199 Speaker 1: to do push ups during the breaks. I mean, it 588 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: was terrible, but it was fun. And that's I think 589 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: that's the first time we ever met. And then in 590 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: twelve we're back and it's raining and horrible and both 591 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: teams were doing really well that year. But it was 592 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. It would probably be like a tornadic activity. 593 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: And you know, please put it in like October, not September, 594 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 1: because then we all have lightning delay possibilities. Just put 595 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: it like in October, we had a game against the Ravens. 596 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 1: The game was was was delayed for a couple of 597 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: hours because there was a tornado in the area. They 598 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: cleared out the stadium. I had to shift. You know, 599 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: we're in all news station WBBM in Chicago, So I 600 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: became a meteorologist and a newsman at that point because 601 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: we are sending it to reporters. That's a I'll never 602 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: forget that game. Yeah against so yeah, oh my gosh, 603 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: you know, be prepared for anything. Mark. Yes, well, you 604 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 1: guys at least have a roof over your head. I'm 605 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 1: downright underneath everything, and so I mean I look, I 606 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: look forward all that. Je. Let's talk a little bit 607 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 1: about the Bears in twenty twenty. And I know you 608 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: get this question all the time. We were asked it 609 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: for probably three straight years. What do you do about 610 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: the quarterback? We never really had an answer. You guys 611 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: have somebody in place, somebody you drafted in twenty seventeen. 612 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: What's the thought about Mitchell going into twenty twenty? I know, 613 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 1: Ryan said, Ryan Pacier, GM said, yeah, he's our guy. 614 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: But what do you anticipate happening with that position going forward. Well, 615 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 1: you know, it's a it's a huge year form, it's 616 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: a huge year form. It's year four's third year in 617 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: the system. He didn't have a ton of college experience, 618 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: and I think that sometimes gets lost in this conversation. 619 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: Because he's the number two pick and they traded up 620 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: a spot to get him. There's high expectations from those 621 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: who analyze these things, and the critics are out. I mean, 622 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: they're they're in Chicago. When you're the quarterback, you gotta 623 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: have the thickest skin in America. I mean it's every day. 624 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: It's every day of the offseason. There's front page, back 625 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: page stories about Mitchell Trubisky and what's going to happen 626 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: next to the quarterback position. But the Bears do believe 627 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: in him genuinely. Ryan Pace yesterday spoke at length, asked 628 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: quiz many times about it. But they're likely will be 629 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: some form of competition, whether they dip into free agency 630 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: or they go back in the draft. They do not 631 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: have a first round pick to you know, make that 632 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: position what it has to be, and that is a 633 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: very productive, most important position in sports. So I think 634 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: there was regression last year. But you know a lot 635 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: of quarterbacks would have struggled last year too. Things that 636 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: make a quarterback feel comfortable all were missing. Everything was missing. Offensively, 637 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: there was no effective running game. The tight end position 638 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: produced very, very little, and it is a big piece 639 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: of that particular offensive scheme, the move tight end looking 640 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: for what you know, Matt Nagy calls multipliers and Ryan 641 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: Pace calls multipliers. Those guys were missing it. Alan Robinson 642 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: had a terrific here, but all around the whole offense 643 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: things went in a different direction. So the quarterback really 644 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: took a lot of the blame for it. But it 645 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: was a complete breakdown really, all right, Jeff, thanks a 646 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: lot for the time. Thank you guys, looking forward to 647 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: seenion Shinytown. Jeff, joni Ac Voice of the Chicago Bears, 648 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: and Johnny. I just love those stories about the Super Bowl. 649 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: You know. I love play by play stories too. Of course, 650 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: that was a pretty good one, right well, you know 651 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: how I feel about it. I'd love to listen to 652 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: you guys talk about just stories about the Super Bowl. 653 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: But I mean, it's such a famous line, David Hester, 654 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 1: you are ridiculous. It's such a great line. I loved 655 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: it and you know, to know the background behind that. 656 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: I think it's really cool. So I'm glad he sat 657 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: down with us. That was awesome, excellent, Also awesome. Paul Allen, 658 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: who hosts a show in Minneapolis, does the Vikings play 659 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: by play, and I know we're going heavy NFC North today, 660 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: but it's all stuff that we're kind of spreading around 661 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: the whole league. And he's gonna wig in on the 662 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: astro situation as well. My gosh, that comes up in 663 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: the conversation. So let's hear from Paul Allen among other things. Next. 664 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: As Texans Radio continues from the NFL Scouting Combine, it's 665 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: our second full day here in Indianapolis. Mark Vandermer and 666 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: Sean Harris with you on Texans Radio, and they started 667 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: to let the fans in. Not a whole lot to see, 668 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: like we said earlier so far because of the bench 669 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: press thing and some guys not wanted to mention. But 670 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: we do see one Cleveland Browns fan here with a 671 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: jersey that has every quarterbacks name on it since they 672 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 1: came back into the league in nineteen ninety nine. Started 673 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: with Tim Couch and I just saw on Twitter a 674 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: little while ago he walked up with that Jersey to 675 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: have Brady Quinn signed. Brady quinnsigned, Brady he's a member 676 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: of the media now. But you know, it brings up 677 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: a point here, and just a quick point, that the 678 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: Texans have a quarterback. This cannot ever be taken for 679 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: granted that you have one of the very best quarterbacks 680 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: in the National Football League and he's entering year four 681 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: with all these you know people that we've talked with, Hey, 682 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: what's your quarterback situation? How happy are you with your 683 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: quarterback situation? Meanwhile, we sit in Houston, go pretty happy 684 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: with ours. Yeah, we're really really happy with ours. I 685 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: think the Vikings are happy with there's after the postseason, yes, 686 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: and no, Kirk had a good year. Yeah, Kirk had 687 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,479 Speaker 1: a good year. And sitting down right now with us 688 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: here on Radio Row at the combine as Paul Allen 689 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: and Paul you know, when the Vikings visit the Texans, 690 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: all three head coaches in Texans history will be in 691 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: the same building. You know, Bill O'Brien. Of course, you 692 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: have Gary Kubiak and Dom Tapers, who are both on 693 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: the staff with the Vikings. It's pretty amazing stuff, you know, 694 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: I certainly you know you know more about it than me. 695 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: Mark with with Gary as as head coach of the 696 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: Texans and then the time Dom spent there. But the 697 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: the year and change we've had now with Gary has 698 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 1: been very polarizing. He was I described him last year 699 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: as the amplification coordinator because he was kind of the 700 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: right hand man of the offensive coordinator. Kevin Stefanski became 701 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown's head coach, So now Gary is the offensive coordinator, 702 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: his son Clint is the quarterbacks coach, and um, you know, 703 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: the metamorphos of the offense from what we've seen, and 704 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,239 Speaker 1: really in my eighteen years of calling Vikings games, I 705 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: had never seen the zone running scheme and the bootlegs 706 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: and all the naked boots and everything that plays off 707 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: of it, and the offense quite honestly, mostly last year 708 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: was the best we had seen since two thousand and 709 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: nine when we went to the NFC title game, and 710 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: Gary had a lot to do with that. Paul, this 711 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: offense with Kirk Cousins Dalvin Cook has a tremendous year, 712 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: don't know about you know, there's been some noise about 713 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: stefon Diggs. Where do you think this offense is with 714 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: Gary leading it going into Kirk's third year with Minnesota. 715 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's a fantastic question because here from Indianapolis, 716 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: you know, granted, the kids cultivating and shaping the future 717 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: with the rookies and the drills and everything leading up 718 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: to the draft. You know, that's when people think combine. 719 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: They mostly think that, where in reality, a lot of 720 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: sneaky back room conversations are transpiring about what will happen 721 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: with the franchise tag which is coming up, and free 722 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: agency and everything, and that's massive for US. I mean, 723 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: the quarterback Kirk Cousins is heading into the final year 724 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 1: of a guarantee deal. It's a thirty one million dollar 725 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: cap hit. That's not going to work. So they're you know, 726 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: they either let that happen and let it play out, 727 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: or they restructure and find salary cap money. We're in 728 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 1: a really, really bad cap situation. They were twelve over 729 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,959 Speaker 1: the cap until Everson Griffin declared he'd be a free agent. 730 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: So now we're close to even. With Dalvin Cook, he's 731 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 1: heading into the final year of his contract. He was 732 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: a second round pick, so you don't have that fifth 733 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: year option now, you know, does it Behoove Dalvin to 734 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: come to all of the offseason workouts. You know, given 735 00:34:55,040 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 1: how perplexing his financial situation is, that's something worth monitoring. Diggs. 736 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 1: Diggs had a very we had a very very weird 737 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: moment with Diggs when the team was two and two. 738 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: He did not show up for a practice, made it 739 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: abundantly clear that he was unhappy. And then he came 740 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,280 Speaker 1: back and he played hard and he's a very good receiver. 741 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: But the question is how much does he want to 742 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: be here? You know, tight end earth Smith Junior, the 743 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: rookie from Alabama, youngest player in the league last year, 744 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: showed flashes, got better at the end of the year, 745 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: very raw, arey and experienced. They'll count on him a 746 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 1: lot this year. And it's just very fluid right now, man, 747 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: not only with the offense but the whole thing. But 748 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, having somebody like Gary Kubiak to 749 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 1: stabilize stuff like that is only going to help. The 750 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,919 Speaker 1: question is what's the personnel going to look like? Man? 751 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: I just this is this is the mediest, strangest Vikings 752 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: offseason that I can remember. And since I've worked with 753 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: the team, well, you've called some amazing games. I mean, 754 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: I don't know that the Minneapolis miracle will be topped 755 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: from just a perspective and how it ended. But where 756 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: does the wild card game rank when you say, you know, bonjour, 757 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: New Orleans or San Francisco, how you said it so brilliantly, 758 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: Where does that game rank in the games you call? It? 759 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: Was cool? I mean, you know, the Minneapolis miracle game 760 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: was super strange, and that we were kicking the bleep 761 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: out of them a halftime seventeen zero and there was 762 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,399 Speaker 1: zero chance we were gonna lose. Breeze and Peyton win 763 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: no huddle twenty five consecutive plays in the second half, 764 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: and then we couldn't win, and then there was a 765 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,200 Speaker 1: block pond. Oh my god. You know, I said to 766 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: the analyst into into the final drive, Pete, we need 767 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: a Minneapolis miracle to win this game. And then we 768 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 1: got one the two thousand and nine NFC title game 769 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: in New Orleans. I never, ever, professionally will forget the 770 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 1: Brett five game where we lost to the Saints, the 771 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: bounty gay thing. But the wild card game was cool, man, 772 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,920 Speaker 1: um I enjoyed it. I like the fact that Kirk 773 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: was able to silence a lot of people who were 774 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: all over him with he It was just it was Kubiak, 775 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 1: Stefanski and Cousins being elite football mines. Late, when Patrick Robinson, 776 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 1: the former Saint Eagle now Saint had not played the 777 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,399 Speaker 1: entire game and he had to come in for one 778 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,439 Speaker 1: play and they recognized it. They went at him deep 779 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: with Eland because Robinson wasn't he hadn't played in the game, 780 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 1: and they got a big hit down inside the fibe 781 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: than they want it. So just the minutia and stuff 782 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,920 Speaker 1: like that really stimulates me. That was probably my highlight 783 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: from the game. Paul Allen, voice of the Vikings Rock 784 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: and Roll Baby, A couple more for you as the 785 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: voice of a team. Some of those moments you mentioned 786 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: the NFC title game OH nine season, that the one 787 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 1: I think it was OH three where he lost the 788 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: Cardinals last game of the regular season and you had 789 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 1: the famous now yeah that I had a hot key 790 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: when I was doing a talk show of that no, 791 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 1: because it was so it was so outstanding. And I 792 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 1: say outstanding from an announcer standpoint, Well, it led to 793 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: them one of the most tenuous offseasons. I mean, it's 794 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,439 Speaker 1: this is my first play by play job at any level. 795 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 1: So hey, I'm emotional now, you know, but I was. 796 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 1: I was emotional and unbelievably inexperienced and raw then. Um. 797 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 1: But it was a tenuous offseason because the owner of 798 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 1: the team, Red Macombs, hated that call. And I don't 799 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: think he liked it. I just he thought, hate that call. 800 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: That call. But it was weird, man, it was ten 801 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 1: It was weird. It was it was Led Zeppelin, good times, 802 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: bad times, because it's like now, it's like people around 803 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,279 Speaker 1: the NFL, we're calling me and like talking like you 804 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: and that was unbelievable and we love it and it 805 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: wasn't insulting. You were feeling the pain of everybody. I 806 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: think Macomes was upset we got bounced the way we did. Um, 807 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 1: and I just, you know, my my intel was that 808 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,920 Speaker 1: he didn't really like it. So I'm new. I was 809 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: super new to the game, man, and kind of had 810 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: to sweat the entire offseason as to whether I was 811 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: going to be the announcer in two thousand and four. 812 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: Here we are in a twenty twenty and I'm still 813 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 1: doing it. All right, One more for you because people 814 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: might not know that, you hope people in Houston might 815 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: not know that you host an enormously popular sports talk 816 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: show and talk about all sports. Right, so you want 817 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: to break down wild hockey or no, what do they 818 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: say Covington from the Wolves? We might, we might duck 819 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,280 Speaker 1: as you say this, but what are they saying about 820 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: the Astros? What have you been talking about? It's that 821 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: is not for me, um, you know, it's to create 822 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 1: a sports monopoly in a regional market that is a 823 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: habit state, like the Twin Cities. The local sports are 824 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:25,399 Speaker 1: first and foremost. So of course the Astro situation will 825 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: get play um and wondering you know why the commissioner 826 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 1: did what he did. But I'm not like over the 827 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 1: top guy wagging my finger and being like, you know, 828 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: the ABCD and he had to happen and it's a 829 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 1: sham that it didn't. Um. You know, I haven't talked 830 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: to any Twins players or a Rocco Baldelli yet about 831 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: it on my radio show, so I have a tendency 832 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: to to leave it to them to formulate the big 833 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: opinion as opposed to me being the loudmouth radio guy 834 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,239 Speaker 1: throwing tomato cans from the upper death. Okay, well, well said, 835 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 1: so I mean it's embarrassing. I mean, it's it's obvious, man, 836 00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 1: It's it's embarrassing. It's ridiculous, it's a shame. You know. 837 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: The penalties probably should be more harsh. I mean, do 838 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: I lose sleep over it? Now? How many times can 839 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 1: you say those words? You Sam? Once? It's like, you 840 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,399 Speaker 1: know my feelings on it. You don't have to keep 841 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: rehashing it. Yeah, But I'm just curious, like how two 842 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: Vega brushed back in the spring training game. I saw 843 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 1: that online and just curious to see how this whole 844 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 1: thing works out. Man, I you know, with with with 845 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,560 Speaker 1: Bellinger and Trout and some of those people speaking out 846 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,720 Speaker 1: the way they have. I like that. I mean because 847 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:29,280 Speaker 1: those are those in the battle impacted by what happened, 848 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 1: and their opinion matters more than mine. So you know, 849 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: that's pretty much the end of it for me, Paul. 850 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: We really appreciate the time. Thanks a lot, hey man, 851 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: And I really appreciate what you do. I mean, not 852 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 1: only Mark, are you a fantastic play by play guy, 853 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: but like me, you do you do a radio show 854 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 1: on six ten, and you you just know the difficulty 855 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 1: or the tricky nature of balancing with with the with 856 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 1: the Texans or for me with the Vikings. When it's bad, man, 857 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,600 Speaker 1: it's bad, and you're not going to embarrass people and 858 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 1: you're not going to call out for people to be fired, 859 00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: and you know, be that guy. But if it's bad, man, 860 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,319 Speaker 1: you like it is when it's bad, and when it's good, 861 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 1: you're there for that too. So it's more of a 862 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 1: tricky balance what you do than you probably get credit for. 863 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: So I'm want to give it to you now, Thank 864 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 1: you very much. Just stick to the facts, right, that's 865 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,760 Speaker 1: all you gotta do. Oh yeah, the facts are the facts. 866 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 1: Thanks a lot. Paul, Yes, sir, there's our buddy, Paul Allen, 867 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 1: voice of the Vikings. Thanks so much for being with us, 868 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: and thanks to Jeff Joniac and thanks to John Clayton 869 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: for being on the show. This will all be podcast 870 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 1: on the Texans App shortly and we'll be back tomorrow 871 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,319 Speaker 1: night a little visit from the General but some other 872 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 1: guests as well, Greg co Sell of NFL Films among them. 873 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,080 Speaker 1: So we invite you to join us tomorrow and go 874 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: to the Texans app go to Houston Texans dot com 875 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 1: for all the coverage of the combine. Thanks so much 876 00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: for being a part of the show tonight, have a 877 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: great evening and go Texans.