WEBVTT - We're Still Fighting for Breonna Taylor 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:07.200 What's good family, it's your girl to meet A D. 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:10.840 Mallard and it's your boy. And we are your host 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:13.680 of street politicians, the place where the streets and in 0:00:13.760 --> 0:00:22.320 politics meet's man. Today is today our show today. Um, 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:24.919 we're in Louisville, Kentucky. You see, my son and I 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:28.440 are in this little space here. Um. We've had to 0:00:28.520 --> 0:00:31.840 change what we were originally planning for the show because 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:35.480 we found out just yesterday that we needed to fly 0:00:35.800 --> 0:00:41.120 quickly one day turn around to Kentucky because the Feds 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:45.920 were going to be meeting with the family of Brianna Taylor. Uh. 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:49.640 And so we until Freedom got up, packed up and 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:53.640 we came to Louisville and waited after you know, for 0:00:53.720 --> 0:00:57.040 their meeting to take place for us to learn, um, 0:00:57.080 --> 0:00:59.880 what the Feds were up to. And they came for 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:02.960 we were to say that they're going to charge four 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:07.600 officers uh in the murder of Brianna Taylor. And it's 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:10.640 significant because all of you have been with us on 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:13.920 this process and throughout this process. This has been a journey. 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:17.039 It's been two years uh and a few months since 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:21.120 we met Brianna Taylor's family and we took you along 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:23.479 with us and you've been here and you invested by 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:27.240 sending your money, you signed petitions, uh, you showed up 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:30.000 at marches and and and did what you could to 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:32.520 be a part of a movement for a black woman, 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:36.160 a young black woman. And so today feels good. It 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:40.679 feels good because, uh, finally it has been proven that 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:44.600 we are not crazy. That the Department of Justice knows 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:48.000 what happened to Brianna Taylor is it was wrong. And 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:50.160 that's just the only that's the easiest way that it 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:55.920 just was wrong. It was And everybody who tried to 0:01:55.960 --> 0:02:00.080 cover it up. I then you Cameron and inside and 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:04.840 everybody in his department they knew. You know, the evidence 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:09.720 that the Feds got was already in law. You know, 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:12.440 the Feds had to come in here and find one 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:16.359 individual who was able to tie this all together. That 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:21.360 means that the state had the same information and they 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:27.600 willing fly with that's the word. We just learned woefully 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:32.160 what hell that evidence? And they willfully deprived Brianna Taylor 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:36.560 a family of justice. And they lie, they lied. And 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:40.400 I'm Daniel Cameron, I mean we it's sad. A black 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:43.520 man that ain't worth the skin. He has listen all 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:47.040 skinful king king folk, and this man is definitely one 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:50.800 of those individuals that proved that saying to be right. Man. Today, 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:53.840 we just left a press conference where we were joined 0:02:53.840 --> 0:03:00.720 by our brother Benjamin Crump, Attorney same Agguie Law Aggie 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:06.160 are the ellis Island Right Age are our other co 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:11.120 founders of Until Freedom, Angelo Pinto Um Lindas ar Sore. 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:18.000 We also were joined by the Louisville Urban Leagues, Sono's 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:21.440 and a host of other people who did the Hope. 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:23.960 We went and we did the press conference in Breakway. 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:26.400 You know, if you don't know Rereeway is it is 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:31.520 ground zero of the movement for Brianna Taylors, where all 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:35.880 the individuals in Louisville and worldwide came and slept in 0:03:35.960 --> 0:03:38.760 the square all night long and every day and they 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:41.400 would march and they would rallied and they would demand 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:44.840 justice from Brianna Taylor. So it was only fitting that 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:48.880 we did the press conference there in which you know, 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:52.880 Benjamin Crump announced the charges that would go out and 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:58.480 you know, I don't, I don't know. It was surreal. 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:01.680 It was surreal for me. You just really like wow, 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:04.440 because I had been in that same place when Daniel 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:07.880 Cameron told us that there was only gonna charge somebody 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:10.280 for shooting at the walls, and I remember that feeling. 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:13.640 I remember standing next to Tamika and standing next to 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:17.760 Angelo and Trade shout out to Trade the truth man, 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:24.839 who've been on the front Yeah, because we didn't. Yeah, 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:27.560 we just when we found out weld them. But Trade 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:34.039 was definitely one of those individuals responsible, you know, lifting 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:36.920 and being on the front line every day, and in 0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:40.200 his voice and everything he did definitely matters. But we 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:43.960 was there, and I remember you on the phone with 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:48.520 Lnita and she was saying, how you know, Tamika Palmer 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:50.600 was sick coming back to when she was so sick 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.240 she was throwing up, you know, and I remember that 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:56.159 and it hurt me so much, you know, So being 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:59.080 in that square at that time, and then being there 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:03.400 today to watch your cry tears of joy, it was 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:06.200 just surreal to me. So, you know, I just I 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:09.240 don't even know what to say at this point, man, Like, well, 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:13.159 let's let them say. There are guests today to mak 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:17.040 A Palmer and Jenia Palmer, the mother and sister of 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:22.360 Brianna Taylor, and attorney Lnita Baker, a black woman who 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:26.440 is the head of eighty thousand black lawyers. She just 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:32.960 got installed as the new president of the National Bar Association. 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:37.279 Uh And and she deserves this also as a victory 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:40.280 because there were many people who were they says, and 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:42.919 they didn't believe. I just want to say thank you 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:46.560 to anybody who didn't believe in us. Thank you, thank you. 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:48.080 I want to thank me. I want to thank you. 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:58.040 I want to thank me. Jada Pain, Alicia keys CARDI 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:02.839 being rapsody. I don't even want to get myself degenerous. 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:15.440 And every day, yes, all day it was terrible. Everybody 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:20.120 Man Louisville, eighty seven to sixty five, everybody, Steven Green, 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:30.560 Leslie Red, Marissa Farrow. Uh well it's a toy era well, Jules, Uh, 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:34.760 it's so many people. Wanda Cooper, amad Aarby's mother was 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:40.159 here with us. Attorney Lee married, Shaun King oh Man, 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:44.240 Seaun king Kane. He he got COVID from being here 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:48.599 at at the at the Brianna Khan conference. Oh Man, 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:51.760 and people try to give us hell every which ja. 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:57.120 I want to thank y'all of the haters and of 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:00.760 what y'all waantching for. You ain't really doing nothing and 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:03.599 you waste some time. You know, all y'all did was 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:06.880 get a couple of dollars and all the bullsh everybody 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:12.800 who said everybody who did that, we want to thank 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:16.640 you because it was you who actually gave me few. 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:19.800 I'm saying me, it gives me few when somebody tells 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:22.560 me I can't do something, when somebody is against it 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:24.760 gives me a different level of few and energy to 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:27.280 fight harder. So I would like to think all of them, 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:32.400 they says, for your contribution to us, get injustice for 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:35.960 Brianna Temps. Let's bring our guests on, bring them off. 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:44.320 That's how we are. So you know, in the midst 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:47.520 of everything that has happened today, we wanted to stop 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:53.040 um and make sure that we catch the initial feeling 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:56.880 that all of us have. And obviously none of us 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:03.360 can um and any way, just know or feel what 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:07.520 you to make a Palmer and uh, Jenia Palmer, what 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:10.920 you're going through, what you're experience in today. But I 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:13.320 feel like we've been with you for this two year 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:17.680 journey and therefore Brianna Taylor has become our family just 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:21.480 as much as she is yours. UM. And you know, 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:23.880 we wanted to make sure that in this moment that 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:28.320 people got a chance to hear from you. Uh and 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:32.160 also from Attorney Launita Baker, who is family as well. 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:35.920 At this point, Uh, just on what this journey has meant, 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:40.240 where we are, what happened today, um, and what we 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:43.640 can expect going forward. So first of all, and you 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:47.200 all are no strangers to street politicians. Thank you so 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:49.160 much for coming back. I don't even think you've done 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:53.040 any interviews yet to Maka have you, No, not at all? 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:57.520 So tell us, um, how y'all feeling to make in Jenia? 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:08.800 What what's today like for you? Emotional? Um? Long overdue? Uh, 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:12.440 it doesn't end here. It's the beginning again, you know, 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:21.720 umh a new beginning, the beginning again. Yeah, wow, Denied. 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:26.800 You know my heart is always with you because one 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:29.240 you could have been in that house, right and we 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:32.160 know that the first day that I met you, we 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:35.720 didn't even really know one another's names, and you showed 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:38.120 me in the window you said, look, this is my 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:41.400 room and there were bullet holes all outside in the 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:47.880 window pane. Um, And I I know that not being there, 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:51.120 you know, your life being spared because you weren't in 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:55.520 the space, but then having your sister killed, it must 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:57.880 just be something that I don't even know how you're 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:01.360 sleeping right, Like it's it's gotta be really difficult, but 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:07.400 today must also feel good to some degree. Yes it does. 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:09.959 It definitely comes today, but like my mom saying, it's 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:14.480 just the beginning all over again, right forming another bike 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:20.040 mm hmm. You know. Um, First of all, I just 0:10:20.040 --> 0:10:24.000 want to say that I love y'all, man, because this 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:28.360 has been a long road, you know, from the beginning, 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:30.880 you know, from from when I first met you. I 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:34.240 never forget it was. I believe it was on Labor Day, 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:38.520 no memorial memorial, Memorial Day, and we came and we 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:42.520 did a memorial you know, service, and we brought some 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:46.480 things here and I remember meeting y'all that day and 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:50.079 from that day on, you guys been the family to me. Man. 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:54.000 We cried together, we laughed together. You know, we've done 0:10:54.040 --> 0:10:58.760 everything together. So today, you know, when we actually heard 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:02.320 that there would be some level of accountability, you know, 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:06.079 that people would be in charge, and that they acknowledged 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:09.040 that Brianna Taylor should be alive, Like you know, we 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:11.880 heard over and over how crazy we was and how 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:15.200 she did this and people. You know, we went back 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:19.440 and forth on the internet arguing these things, and today, 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:24.360 you know, they acknowledge that Brianna Taylor life's live life 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:27.480 was wrongly taking, you know, and she should be alive, 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:31.680 and people colluded to hide and do things that led 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:34.880 to this lady depth. So that for me, you know, 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:38.640 that part of it is definitely refreshing, man, and being 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:41.640 able to to be there with you and hold you guys. 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:44.679 And because we kept saying, man, it's a good day 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:47.440 to arrest the cops, and today was the day that 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:50.199 they actually arrested the cops. Man. So I just want 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:54.000 to say that first of all, but as an attorney, 0:11:54.040 --> 0:12:00.800 line need to you know, did you have believe that 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:06.480 this day would actually happen? Um? I went back and 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:10.960 forth initially, you know, as to Mika says, when she 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:14.640 first met with us, I was very hesitant to say, oh, yeah, 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:18.360 we're gonna get the officers arrested. But it was not 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:21.440 because I didn't think it could happen. But it was 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:27.440 because I'm always hesitant to make promises for someone else. Um. 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:29.880 But once we started to dig through the evidence and 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:35.080 we began to uncover what led to Brianna's murder. To me, 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:37.720 there's no way that she should not have been charged. 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:40.240 But then we were here, we are two and a 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:44.240 half years later. You know, we had the debacle that 0:12:44.320 --> 0:12:47.320 the Kentucky Attorney General did, We had the fact that 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:51.320 no one in Kentucky or Louisville would do anything. And 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:54.480 so as time went on, you know, I was holding 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:56.720 on to hope because I had to be you know, 0:12:56.840 --> 0:12:59.520 make sure that I could instill continue to instill hoping 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:02.880 to Tamika and Jenia. But I would be lying if 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:05.120 I sit here instead that I was like certain that 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:08.640 we would get justice. But you know, and we say 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:10.520 as an attorney, you know, I always talked about being 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:14.320 a former prosecutor. It's said, it was just within me 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:17.440 that I'm like, we we can't not get justice here, 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:19.719 like if there's any case too, because we knew of 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:23.160 the lies um we saw when they tried to do 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:26.480 the butcher job, you know, on Brianna's character, after they 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:29.240 were called on their lives, and so it would have 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:33.880 been very hard for me to not come to this day. 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:36.440 But it was hard for me to keep hope that 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:40.840 we would arrive at this day. You you said eight 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:45.800 hundred and ninety four days seven, Jamika, you've been talking 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:47.839 about that. What of the eight hundred and seventy four 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:54.120 day has been like like March to thirteen? Are every day? 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:58.520 Was um every day that you have to explain to 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:03.400 somebody that happened, what's wrong. It's like another slap in 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:06.560 the face every day that someone attacks you on the 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:11.120 internet and person yelled out these things make these accusations. 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:14.520 Was another attack and and it happened for eight hundred 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:17.800 and seventy four days. M M M M. And the 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:23.120 and the charges, Attorney Veka are so strong, right, not 0:14:23.320 --> 0:14:25.600 enough people have been charged. We wish they were more, 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:30.600 but nonetheless the charges are so strong. Talk about that. 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:33.160 Did you think when you got a call saying the 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:36.680 fans want to meet with you, uh and and and 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:40.040 and the family, did you think the charges would be 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:44.320 at this level. I had no idea they would be 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:47.040 at this level. I definitely didn't expect to go and 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.800 meet with the FBI today and they tell us that 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:53.320 three of the officers that were charged are facing up 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:56.080 to life. And when I heard that, I think it 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:58.280 part of me like I wanted to do a court 0:14:58.280 --> 0:14:59.880 wheel in the room. But you know I couldn't have 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:04.520 within the FBI, but it was like life life life, 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:08.800 like you know, the and so it was just there 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:13.360 was a sense of vindication. And even within talking to them, 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:18.480 they recognized that when they explained why they couldn't charge 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:21.920 all of the officers, we understood that because the standard 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:24.880 in federal charges it is much higher than it is 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.520 on a state level. When you're talking about depriving some 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:29.840 one of their civil rights, it's wilful and so at 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:31.520 that moment you have to be able to prove that 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:35.920 they intended to deprive her. And so as they explained it, 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:38.640 as Brett Hankinson, he set off that that round the 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:42.600 gunfire that led the other officers to begin to fire, 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:45.480 and so at that point where they willfully we always 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:48.560 said they were reckless, right, but that's not the standard 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:51.240 that you need in federal charges. So that's what when 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:53.400 we talk about people not doing their job at the 0:15:53.400 --> 0:15:56.360 state and local level, that's where they should have been 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:59.320 charged because of the reckless their reckless behavior led to 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:02.240 to Brianna Steff. But we could we never could just 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:06.120 say that they were intentional. We've always said they were reckless. Um. 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:09.120 But Brett Hankinson. It was because he was shooting blindly 0:16:09.200 --> 0:16:11.560 into you know, he couldn't see where he was shooting 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:17.360 through curtains, through the furniture, basically blinds and so that's 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:21.120 how they were able to get him for willful Um. 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:25.200 So I didn't expect it, but I was pleasantly suprised, surprised. 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:27.600 I didn't know that it needed to be. I know 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:29.760 people there were some people that was like, well, maybe 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:31.920 they're just gonna do the perjury charge. And I'm like, 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:36.200 if they just doing perjury, like, I'm not gonna jump 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:38.720 up and down about a perjury church because we knew 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:46.800 it was much more um and because Brianna should be here. Yeah. Um, 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:51.600 Jenia Tamika, when y'all first heard that, when you heard 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:55.280 these charges, what what did you say to yourself? What 0:16:55.320 --> 0:17:05.480 was what was the first thing that came to your mind? Finally? Um, 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:10.480 it was finally it was a whole lot of cuss 0:17:10.480 --> 0:17:17.560 words in my head. It was yeah, like uh, and 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:19.760 I think it hit for Tamika. You know, you get 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:21.879 to watch from a from the I got to watch 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:25.200 being outside of Tamika's body. I was sitting right next 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:27.560 to her, and it was when they said, you know, 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:32.600 we're charging them with deprivation of Brianna Taylor's civil rights. 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:36.000 And then they added which resulted in the death of 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.719 Brianna Taylor. And that's when it set in for for 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:41.920 Tamika and and it hit home. So if you talk 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:43.800 about that a little bit to Mika, just when they 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:48.800 added that resulting in the death here that again it's 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:52.480 like I've been saying this for eight hundred and seventy 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:56.760 four days, you know, and to hear somebody agreed that 0:17:56.960 --> 0:18:00.639 what we've been seeing was right is amazing reason. It 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:04.560 doesn't change what happened to her, but um, it just 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:08.520 to know that somebody's about to Other people saw what 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:12.680 we saw. Other people are recognizing and willing to say 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:16.240 it's time to take action. It's time for these people 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:23.480 to pay for that. It's the emotion was I remember 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:32.560 losing my breath and and like feeling like I was 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:38.320 gasping for the next heir to finish listening just to 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:41.439 hear what they're saying and then trying to comprehend it. 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:46.119 And it's such a holder opposite of the meeting you 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:52.680 had with the Attorney General Daniel Cameron when he died 0:18:53.280 --> 0:18:58.240 and as far as I'm concerned, uh, he committed. I'm 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:01.680 still trying to find the word. I want to call 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:04.280 him a criminal, but I need the right language. I'm 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:08.320 gonna I'm gonna get it one day. But that meeting 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:12.080 that you had where they called you to a place 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:16.840 and and I remember distinctly Attorney sam agyar An, Attorney 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:21.720 La Needa Baker telling the State of Kentucky, do not 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:25.640 bring to make a palmer an hour away from her 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:28.320 home to hear bad news. You could tell that all 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:31.960 on the phone, and they still let you drive all 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:34.680 the way. And it's like it's like it was disrespect. 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:38.800 It was it was like it was intentional, intentionally done 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:44.159 to turn a night in your stomach right having you 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:47.360 because we have to stop thinking that these people they 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:50.600 just made a mistake or made you known. Know this, 0:19:50.600 --> 0:19:55.399 this is diabolical. It's intentional, right to have you drive 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:58.000 there for him to to tell you that they would 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:01.120 not bring charges and that they only charged that would 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:05.119 in fact um that would be going to court or 0:20:05.160 --> 0:20:10.479 whatever was for the wall, a bullet going through a wall. 0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:17.080 It's such a difference between yesterday and today. Daniel Cameron, 0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:21.600 I need to that, I need you to unpack for 0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:27.520 me how much criminal activity took place in terms of 0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:32.760 what this man did not do. I mean, he just 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:36.560 completely there. There was mouthfeasons of office. He is elected 0:20:36.600 --> 0:20:40.280 by the citizens of the Commonwealth of Kentucky, and he 0:20:40.320 --> 0:20:45.240 did everything to go against what our laws tell him 0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:47.919 he should do as a prosecutor. He did not allow 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:52.679 the jury to deliberate as it relates to churches with Brianna. 0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:57.720 He intentionally just ignored evidence that was right in front 0:20:57.720 --> 0:20:59.359 of him. By the time he got that case, he 0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:02.520 knew that there was a line of lines can contained 0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:04.760 within the search warrant. Had he done a little bit 0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:07.240 of work, he would have known that they did a 0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:10.640 cover up after. But no, he decided he was going 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:14.760 to being bad and want to continue to be endorsed 0:21:14.840 --> 0:21:17.240 and and and loved and favored by f O P 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:22.160 and the Republican Attorney General's Association, such that he did 0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:28.560 not do his job. Um he he He's an embarrassment 0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:34.920 to the legal profession because you have jurors coming forward 0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:37.239 saying he did not do what he was supposed to do. 0:21:37.280 --> 0:21:39.359 Like I mean, how often do you see where the 0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:41.800 jurors that the very jurors that you were presenting in 0:21:41.880 --> 0:21:45.440 front of saying you did a horrible job. You left 0:21:45.480 --> 0:21:49.560 them feeling like they failed because they were not able 0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:52.960 to deliberate and bring justice for Brianna Taylor. So he's 0:21:52.960 --> 0:21:57.679 an embarrassment um and the legal profession. And he lied 0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:01.840 because he said, ever, the reason why the jurors came 0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:05.040 forward is because he tried to make it seen like 0:22:05.200 --> 0:22:09.520 they all like the jurors decided that they I find 0:22:09.600 --> 0:22:13.560 any charges against the officers for Brianna Taylor, and that 0:22:13.680 --> 0:22:15.920 was not true. And the jurors said, no, we never 0:22:16.000 --> 0:22:19.720 received any charges that we could even consider. So he 0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:22.520 lied and the ship and then further he said, had 0:22:22.640 --> 0:22:26.240 we received any charges, we would haven't died. They went 0:22:26.440 --> 0:22:32.119 further and said it so we were you just sitting U. 0:22:32.920 --> 0:22:36.359 I remember that day. It was the longest ride home 0:22:36.680 --> 0:22:39.439 I had ever experienced in my life, to only be 0:22:39.520 --> 0:22:43.639 an hour away from home. I remember it because it 0:22:43.760 --> 0:22:47.679 was a hundred and ninety four days. It was a 0:22:47.760 --> 0:22:53.560 hundred and ninety four days. And he carned me there 0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:59.800 and and pretended to care, pretended to have done this job, 0:23:00.480 --> 0:23:07.320 pretended to have stood up for Brianna. And remember to Micase, 0:23:07.320 --> 0:23:09.840 he pretended to make He made you believe that the 0:23:09.880 --> 0:23:12.560 wanton endangerment charges were for Brianna, and I had to 0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:15.040 tell you in the parking lot that it was for 0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:23.040 the neighbors. He's he's very sick, and at this point, 0:23:23.119 --> 0:23:27.880 I don't understand how he doesn't get criminally charged as well. 0:23:30.000 --> 0:23:33.200 I agree, I mean, I think because what he did. 0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:37.800 I mean, I feel like it should be of very 0:23:37.840 --> 0:23:44.280 like high importance to somebody that an Attorney general participated 0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:48.840 in the obstruction of justice as it relates to a 0:23:48.880 --> 0:23:53.200 woman being murdered. This is this should be a high 0:23:53.359 --> 0:23:56.680 level of of of like concern or something about this 0:23:56.840 --> 0:24:01.000 because this, imagine what they're doing in his office. Imagine 0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:03.600 this was in front of the world. The public get 0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:06.399 got a chance to see and not and and and 0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:10.280 if it were not for Kristen clark uh the head 0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:13.480 of the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice, 0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:16.960 and of course her boss, the Attorney General, Merrick Garland, 0:24:17.240 --> 0:24:20.880 if it were not for them asking the tough questions, 0:24:20.920 --> 0:24:24.800 this would have gone unchecked. No one would know about 0:24:24.840 --> 0:24:27.920 what happened here except us, the people who they said, 0:24:27.920 --> 0:24:31.760 we're crazy. Yeah, I mean, and I think it's important, 0:24:31.760 --> 0:24:33.120 Like when we talk about I want to go back 0:24:33.119 --> 0:24:35.879 on the charges a little bit. I do want the 0:24:36.560 --> 0:24:39.960 listeners to realize that importance when we talk about they 0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:43.760 could have simply stopped with the indictment by saying that 0:24:43.840 --> 0:24:48.440 these officers engaged in the willful deprivation of Brianna Taylor's 0:24:49.040 --> 0:24:53.560 constitutional rights. When they added that result in her death, 0:24:53.600 --> 0:24:57.080 that thump, that violating our civil rights up to a 0:24:57.119 --> 0:24:59.440 whole another level. Like on the state charge, it's basically 0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:03.920 murder like so, so they could have stopped without adding 0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:07.840 results in Brianna Taylor's stuff. So the Department of Justice 0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:11.160 has specifically, you know, said and as they used the words, 0:25:11.240 --> 0:25:14.800 they've alleged that the conduct of these officers, and but 0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:18.800 for the conduct of these officers, Brianna would have been here. 0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:20.720 They had no right to be at her house in 0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:23.320 the first place. And that's the things that you know, 0:25:23.520 --> 0:25:26.200 Daniel Cameron tried to skirt around. You get the the 0:25:26.200 --> 0:25:30.320 the social media or what do we call keyboard warriors 0:25:30.359 --> 0:25:34.359 trying to make allegations about Brianna Taylor and her lifestyle 0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:36.520 and and this and that. But now we know all 0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:38.879 of that was a lie. And that's what these officers 0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:44.880 did to cover up what they knew had been um 0:25:45.359 --> 0:25:49.679 had been uncovered, I asked, but I want to know 0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:54.320 from y'all, like, honestly, did y'all ever lose faith in 0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:57.720 the system? Did you believe? Did you say to yourself, like, 0:25:57.840 --> 0:25:59.639 you know, I really don't believe that these people are 0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:04.240 gonna do right? But my daughter definitely look at Jenna 0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:08.520 and she like, yes, absolutely lost faith. Uh. First of all, 0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:10.840 I wasn't a system that we had much faith in 0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:14.720 to begin with. As black people, we've seen the system 0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:18.639 screw us over a number of times. We've seen this 0:26:18.720 --> 0:26:23.000