Speaker 1: What's good family, it's your girl to meet A D.
Speaker 1: Mallard and it's your boy. And we are your host
Speaker 1: of street politicians, the place where the streets and in
Speaker 1: politics meet's man. Today is today our show today. Um,
Speaker 1: we're in Louisville, Kentucky. You see, my son and I
Speaker 1: are in this little space here. Um. We've had to
Speaker 1: change what we were originally planning for the show because
Speaker 1: we found out just yesterday that we needed to fly
Speaker 1: quickly one day turn around to Kentucky because the Feds
Speaker 1: were going to be meeting with the family of Brianna Taylor. Uh.
Speaker 1: And so we until Freedom got up, packed up and
Speaker 1: we came to Louisville and waited after you know, for
Speaker 1: their meeting to take place for us to learn, um,
Speaker 1: what the Feds were up to. And they came for
Speaker 1: we were to say that they're going to charge four
Speaker 1: officers uh in the murder of Brianna Taylor. And it's
Speaker 1: significant because all of you have been with us on
Speaker 1: this process and throughout this process. This has been a journey.
Speaker 1: It's been two years uh and a few months since
Speaker 1: we met Brianna Taylor's family and we took you along
Speaker 1: with us and you've been here and you invested by
Speaker 1: sending your money, you signed petitions, uh, you showed up
Speaker 1: at marches and and and did what you could to
Speaker 1: be a part of a movement for a black woman,
Speaker 1: a young black woman. And so today feels good. It
Speaker 1: feels good because, uh, finally it has been proven that
Speaker 1: we are not crazy. That the Department of Justice knows
Speaker 1: what happened to Brianna Taylor is it was wrong. And
Speaker 1: that's just the only that's the easiest way that it
Speaker 1: just was wrong. It was And everybody who tried to
Speaker 1: cover it up. I then you Cameron and inside and
Speaker 1: everybody in his department they knew. You know, the evidence
Speaker 1: that the Feds got was already in law. You know,
Speaker 1: the Feds had to come in here and find one
Speaker 1: individual who was able to tie this all together. That
Speaker 1: means that the state had the same information and they
Speaker 1: willing fly with that's the word. We just learned woefully
Speaker 1: what hell that evidence? And they willfully deprived Brianna Taylor
Speaker 1: a family of justice. And they lie, they lied. And
Speaker 1: I'm Daniel Cameron, I mean we it's sad. A black
Speaker 1: man that ain't worth the skin. He has listen all
Speaker 1: skinful king king folk, and this man is definitely one
Speaker 1: of those individuals that proved that saying to be right. Man. Today,
Speaker 1: we just left a press conference where we were joined
Speaker 1: by our brother Benjamin Crump, Attorney same Agguie Law Aggie
Speaker 1: are the ellis Island Right Age are our other co
Speaker 1: founders of Until Freedom, Angelo Pinto Um Lindas ar Sore.
Speaker 1: We also were joined by the Louisville Urban Leagues, Sono's
Speaker 1: and a host of other people who did the Hope.
Speaker 1: We went and we did the press conference in Breakway.
Speaker 1: You know, if you don't know Rereeway is it is
Speaker 1: ground zero of the movement for Brianna Taylors, where all
Speaker 1: the individuals in Louisville and worldwide came and slept in
Speaker 1: the square all night long and every day and they
Speaker 1: would march and they would rallied and they would demand
Speaker 1: justice from Brianna Taylor. So it was only fitting that
Speaker 1: we did the press conference there in which you know,
Speaker 1: Benjamin Crump announced the charges that would go out and
Speaker 1: you know, I don't, I don't know. It was surreal.
Speaker 1: It was surreal for me. You just really like wow,
Speaker 1: because I had been in that same place when Daniel
Speaker 1: Cameron told us that there was only gonna charge somebody
Speaker 1: for shooting at the walls, and I remember that feeling.
Speaker 1: I remember standing next to Tamika and standing next to
Speaker 1: Angelo and Trade shout out to Trade the truth man,
Speaker 1: who've been on the front Yeah, because we didn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we just when we found out weld them. But Trade
Speaker 1: was definitely one of those individuals responsible, you know, lifting
Speaker 1: and being on the front line every day, and in
Speaker 1: his voice and everything he did definitely matters. But we
Speaker 1: was there, and I remember you on the phone with
Speaker 1: Lnita and she was saying, how you know, Tamika Palmer
Speaker 1: was sick coming back to when she was so sick
Speaker 1: she was throwing up, you know, and I remember that
Speaker 1: and it hurt me so much, you know, So being
Speaker 1: in that square at that time, and then being there
Speaker 1: today to watch your cry tears of joy, it was
Speaker 1: just surreal to me. So, you know, I just I
Speaker 1: don't even know what to say at this point, man, Like, well,
Speaker 1: let's let them say. There are guests today to mak
Speaker 1: A Palmer and Jenia Palmer, the mother and sister of
Speaker 1: Brianna Taylor, and attorney Lnita Baker, a black woman who
Speaker 1: is the head of eighty thousand black lawyers. She just
Speaker 1: got installed as the new president of the National Bar Association.
Speaker 1: Uh And and she deserves this also as a victory
Speaker 1: because there were many people who were they says, and
Speaker 1: they didn't believe. I just want to say thank you
Speaker 1: to anybody who didn't believe in us. Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: I want to thank me. I want to thank you.
Speaker 1: I want to thank me. Jada Pain, Alicia keys CARDI
Speaker 1: being rapsody. I don't even want to get myself degenerous.
Speaker 1: And every day, yes, all day it was terrible. Everybody
Speaker 1: Man Louisville, eighty seven to sixty five, everybody, Steven Green,
Speaker 1: Leslie Red, Marissa Farrow. Uh well it's a toy era well, Jules, Uh,
Speaker 1: it's so many people. Wanda Cooper, amad Aarby's mother was
Speaker 1: here with us. Attorney Lee married, Shaun King oh Man,
Speaker 1: Seaun king Kane. He he got COVID from being here
Speaker 1: at at the at the Brianna Khan conference. Oh Man,
Speaker 1: and people try to give us hell every which ja.
Speaker 1: I want to thank y'all of the haters and of
Speaker 1: what y'all waantching for. You ain't really doing nothing and
Speaker 1: you waste some time. You know, all y'all did was
Speaker 1: get a couple of dollars and all the bullsh everybody
Speaker 1: who said everybody who did that, we want to thank
Speaker 1: you because it was you who actually gave me few.
Speaker 1: I'm saying me, it gives me few when somebody tells
Speaker 1: me I can't do something, when somebody is against it
Speaker 1: gives me a different level of few and energy to
Speaker 1: fight harder. So I would like to think all of them,
Speaker 1: they says, for your contribution to us, get injustice for
Speaker 1: Brianna Temps. Let's bring our guests on, bring them off.
Speaker 1: That's how we are. So you know, in the midst
Speaker 1: of everything that has happened today, we wanted to stop
Speaker 1: um and make sure that we catch the initial feeling
Speaker 1: that all of us have. And obviously none of us
Speaker 1: can um and any way, just know or feel what
Speaker 1: you to make a Palmer and uh, Jenia Palmer, what
Speaker 1: you're going through, what you're experience in today. But I
Speaker 1: feel like we've been with you for this two year
Speaker 1: journey and therefore Brianna Taylor has become our family just
Speaker 1: as much as she is yours. UM. And you know,
Speaker 1: we wanted to make sure that in this moment that
Speaker 1: people got a chance to hear from you. Uh and
Speaker 1: also from Attorney Launita Baker, who is family as well.
Speaker 1: At this point, Uh, just on what this journey has meant,
Speaker 1: where we are, what happened today, um, and what we
Speaker 1: can expect going forward. So first of all, and you
Speaker 1: all are no strangers to street politicians. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for coming back. I don't even think you've done
Speaker 1: any interviews yet to Maka have you, No, not at all?
Speaker 1: So tell us, um, how y'all feeling to make in Jenia?
Speaker 1: What what's today like for you? Emotional? Um? Long overdue? Uh,
Speaker 1: it doesn't end here. It's the beginning again, you know,
Speaker 1: umh a new beginning, the beginning again. Yeah, wow, Denied.
Speaker 1: You know my heart is always with you because one
Speaker 1: you could have been in that house, right and we
Speaker 1: know that the first day that I met you, we
Speaker 1: didn't even really know one another's names, and you showed
Speaker 1: me in the window you said, look, this is my
Speaker 1: room and there were bullet holes all outside in the
Speaker 1: window pane. Um, And I I know that not being there,
Speaker 1: you know, your life being spared because you weren't in
Speaker 1: the space, but then having your sister killed, it must
Speaker 1: just be something that I don't even know how you're
Speaker 1: sleeping right, Like it's it's gotta be really difficult, but
Speaker 1: today must also feel good to some degree. Yes it does.
Speaker 1: It definitely comes today, but like my mom saying, it's
Speaker 1: just the beginning all over again, right forming another bike
Speaker 1: mm hmm. You know. Um, First of all, I just
Speaker 1: want to say that I love y'all, man, because this
Speaker 1: has been a long road, you know, from the beginning,
Speaker 1: you know, from from when I first met you. I
Speaker 1: never forget it was. I believe it was on Labor Day,
Speaker 1: no memorial memorial, Memorial Day, and we came and we
Speaker 1: did a memorial you know, service, and we brought some
Speaker 1: things here and I remember meeting y'all that day and
Speaker 1: from that day on, you guys been the family to me. Man.
Speaker 1: We cried together, we laughed together. You know, we've done
Speaker 1: everything together. So today, you know, when we actually heard
Speaker 1: that there would be some level of accountability, you know,
Speaker 1: that people would be in charge, and that they acknowledged
Speaker 1: that Brianna Taylor should be alive, Like you know, we
Speaker 1: heard over and over how crazy we was and how
Speaker 1: she did this and people. You know, we went back
Speaker 1: and forth on the internet arguing these things, and today,
Speaker 1: you know, they acknowledge that Brianna Taylor life's live life
Speaker 1: was wrongly taking, you know, and she should be alive,
Speaker 1: and people colluded to hide and do things that led
Speaker 1: to this lady depth. So that for me, you know,
Speaker 1: that part of it is definitely refreshing, man, and being
Speaker 1: able to to be there with you and hold you guys.
Speaker 1: And because we kept saying, man, it's a good day
Speaker 1: to arrest the cops, and today was the day that
Speaker 1: they actually arrested the cops. Man. So I just want
Speaker 1: to say that first of all, but as an attorney,
Speaker 1: line need to you know, did you have believe that
Speaker 1: this day would actually happen? Um? I went back and
Speaker 1: forth initially, you know, as to Mika says, when she
Speaker 1: first met with us, I was very hesitant to say, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get the officers arrested. But it was not
Speaker 1: because I didn't think it could happen. But it was
Speaker 1: because I'm always hesitant to make promises for someone else. Um.
Speaker 1: But once we started to dig through the evidence and
Speaker 1: we began to uncover what led to Brianna's murder. To me,
Speaker 1: there's no way that she should not have been charged.
Speaker 1: But then we were here, we are two and a
Speaker 1: half years later. You know, we had the debacle that
Speaker 1: the Kentucky Attorney General did, We had the fact that
Speaker 1: no one in Kentucky or Louisville would do anything. And
Speaker 1: so as time went on, you know, I was holding
Speaker 1: on to hope because I had to be you know,
Speaker 1: make sure that I could instill continue to instill hoping
Speaker 1: to Tamika and Jenia. But I would be lying if
Speaker 1: I sit here instead that I was like certain that
Speaker 1: we would get justice. But you know, and we say
Speaker 1: as an attorney, you know, I always talked about being
Speaker 1: a former prosecutor. It's said, it was just within me
Speaker 1: that I'm like, we we can't not get justice here,
Speaker 1: like if there's any case too, because we knew of
Speaker 1: the lies um we saw when they tried to do
Speaker 1: the butcher job, you know, on Brianna's character, after they
Speaker 1: were called on their lives, and so it would have
Speaker 1: been very hard for me to not come to this day.
Speaker 1: But it was hard for me to keep hope that
Speaker 1: we would arrive at this day. You you said eight
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety four days seven, Jamika, you've been talking
Speaker 1: about that. What of the eight hundred and seventy four
Speaker 1: day has been like like March to thirteen? Are every day?
Speaker 1: Was um every day that you have to explain to
Speaker 1: somebody that happened, what's wrong. It's like another slap in
Speaker 1: the face every day that someone attacks you on the
Speaker 1: internet and person yelled out these things make these accusations.
Speaker 1: Was another attack and and it happened for eight hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy four days. M M M M. And the
Speaker 1: and the charges, Attorney Veka are so strong, right, not
Speaker 1: enough people have been charged. We wish they were more,
Speaker 1: but nonetheless the charges are so strong. Talk about that.
Speaker 1: Did you think when you got a call saying the
Speaker 1: fans want to meet with you, uh and and and
Speaker 1: and the family, did you think the charges would be
Speaker 1: at this level. I had no idea they would be
Speaker 1: at this level. I definitely didn't expect to go and
Speaker 1: meet with the FBI today and they tell us that
Speaker 1: three of the officers that were charged are facing up
Speaker 1: to life. And when I heard that, I think it
Speaker 1: part of me like I wanted to do a court
Speaker 1: wheel in the room. But you know I couldn't have
Speaker 1: within the FBI, but it was like life life life,
Speaker 1: like you know, the and so it was just there
Speaker 1: was a sense of vindication. And even within talking to them,
Speaker 1: they recognized that when they explained why they couldn't charge
Speaker 1: all of the officers, we understood that because the standard
Speaker 1: in federal charges it is much higher than it is
Speaker 1: on a state level. When you're talking about depriving some
Speaker 1: one of their civil rights, it's wilful and so at
Speaker 1: that moment you have to be able to prove that
Speaker 1: they intended to deprive her. And so as they explained it,
Speaker 1: as Brett Hankinson, he set off that that round the
Speaker 1: gunfire that led the other officers to begin to fire,
Speaker 1: and so at that point where they willfully we always
Speaker 1: said they were reckless, right, but that's not the standard
Speaker 1: that you need in federal charges. So that's what when
Speaker 1: we talk about people not doing their job at the
Speaker 1: state and local level, that's where they should have been
Speaker 1: charged because of the reckless their reckless behavior led to
Speaker 1: to Brianna Steff. But we could we never could just
Speaker 1: say that they were intentional. We've always said they were reckless. Um.
Speaker 1: But Brett Hankinson. It was because he was shooting blindly
Speaker 1: into you know, he couldn't see where he was shooting
Speaker 1: through curtains, through the furniture, basically blinds and so that's
Speaker 1: how they were able to get him for willful Um.
Speaker 1: So I didn't expect it, but I was pleasantly suprised, surprised.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that it needed to be. I know
Speaker 1: people there were some people that was like, well, maybe
Speaker 1: they're just gonna do the perjury charge. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: if they just doing perjury, like, I'm not gonna jump
Speaker 1: up and down about a perjury church because we knew
Speaker 1: it was much more um and because Brianna should be here. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: Jenia Tamika, when y'all first heard that, when you heard
Speaker 1: these charges, what what did you say to yourself? What
Speaker 1: was what was the first thing that came to your mind? Finally? Um,
Speaker 1: it was finally it was a whole lot of cuss
Speaker 1: words in my head. It was yeah, like uh, and
Speaker 1: I think it hit for Tamika. You know, you get
Speaker 1: to watch from a from the I got to watch
Speaker 1: being outside of Tamika's body. I was sitting right next
Speaker 1: to her, and it was when they said, you know,
Speaker 1: we're charging them with deprivation of Brianna Taylor's civil rights.
Speaker 1: And then they added which resulted in the death of
Speaker 1: Brianna Taylor. And that's when it set in for for
Speaker 1: Tamika and and it hit home. So if you talk
Speaker 1: about that a little bit to Mika, just when they
Speaker 1: added that resulting in the death here that again it's
Speaker 1: like I've been saying this for eight hundred and seventy
Speaker 1: four days, you know, and to hear somebody agreed that
Speaker 1: what we've been seeing was right is amazing reason. It
Speaker 1: doesn't change what happened to her, but um, it just
Speaker 1: to know that somebody's about to Other people saw what
Speaker 1: we saw. Other people are recognizing and willing to say
Speaker 1: it's time to take action. It's time for these people
Speaker 1: to pay for that. It's the emotion was I remember
Speaker 1: losing my breath and and like feeling like I was
Speaker 1: gasping for the next heir to finish listening just to
Speaker 1: hear what they're saying and then trying to comprehend it.
Speaker 1: And it's such a holder opposite of the meeting you
Speaker 1: had with the Attorney General Daniel Cameron when he died
Speaker 1: and as far as I'm concerned, uh, he committed. I'm
Speaker 1: still trying to find the word. I want to call
Speaker 1: him a criminal, but I need the right language. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna get it one day. But that meeting
Speaker 1: that you had where they called you to a place
Speaker 1: and and I remember distinctly Attorney sam agyar An, Attorney
Speaker 1: La Needa Baker telling the State of Kentucky, do not
Speaker 1: bring to make a palmer an hour away from her
Speaker 1: home to hear bad news. You could tell that all
Speaker 1: on the phone, and they still let you drive all
Speaker 1: the way. And it's like it's like it was disrespect.
Speaker 1: It was it was like it was intentional, intentionally done
Speaker 1: to turn a night in your stomach right having you
Speaker 1: because we have to stop thinking that these people they
Speaker 1: just made a mistake or made you known. Know this,
Speaker 1: this is diabolical. It's intentional, right to have you drive
Speaker 1: there for him to to tell you that they would
Speaker 1: not bring charges and that they only charged that would
Speaker 1: in fact um that would be going to court or
Speaker 1: whatever was for the wall, a bullet going through a wall.
Speaker 1: It's such a difference between yesterday and today. Daniel Cameron,
Speaker 1: I need to that, I need you to unpack for
Speaker 1: me how much criminal activity took place in terms of
Speaker 1: what this man did not do. I mean, he just
Speaker 1: completely there. There was mouthfeasons of office. He is elected
Speaker 1: by the citizens of the Commonwealth of Kentucky, and he
Speaker 1: did everything to go against what our laws tell him
Speaker 1: he should do as a prosecutor. He did not allow
Speaker 1: the jury to deliberate as it relates to churches with Brianna.
Speaker 1: He intentionally just ignored evidence that was right in front
Speaker 1: of him. By the time he got that case, he
Speaker 1: knew that there was a line of lines can contained
Speaker 1: within the search warrant. Had he done a little bit
Speaker 1: of work, he would have known that they did a
Speaker 1: cover up after. But no, he decided he was going
Speaker 1: to being bad and want to continue to be endorsed
Speaker 1: and and and loved and favored by f O P
Speaker 1: and the Republican Attorney General's Association, such that he did
Speaker 1: not do his job. Um he he He's an embarrassment
Speaker 1: to the legal profession because you have jurors coming forward
Speaker 1: saying he did not do what he was supposed to do.
Speaker 1: Like I mean, how often do you see where the
Speaker 1: jurors that the very jurors that you were presenting in
Speaker 1: front of saying you did a horrible job. You left
Speaker 1: them feeling like they failed because they were not able
Speaker 1: to deliberate and bring justice for Brianna Taylor. So he's
Speaker 1: an embarrassment um and the legal profession. And he lied
Speaker 1: because he said, ever, the reason why the jurors came
Speaker 1: forward is because he tried to make it seen like
Speaker 1: they all like the jurors decided that they I find
Speaker 1: any charges against the officers for Brianna Taylor, and that
Speaker 1: was not true. And the jurors said, no, we never
Speaker 1: received any charges that we could even consider. So he
Speaker 1: lied and the ship and then further he said, had
Speaker 1: we received any charges, we would haven't died. They went
Speaker 1: further and said it so we were you just sitting U.
Speaker 1: I remember that day. It was the longest ride home
Speaker 1: I had ever experienced in my life, to only be
Speaker 1: an hour away from home. I remember it because it
Speaker 1: was a hundred and ninety four days. It was a
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety four days. And he carned me there
Speaker 1: and and pretended to care, pretended to have done this job,
Speaker 1: pretended to have stood up for Brianna. And remember to Micase,
Speaker 1: he pretended to make He made you believe that the
Speaker 1: wanton endangerment charges were for Brianna, and I had to
Speaker 1: tell you in the parking lot that it was for
Speaker 1: the neighbors. He's he's very sick, and at this point,
Speaker 1: I don't understand how he doesn't get criminally charged as well.
Speaker 1: I agree, I mean, I think because what he did.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like it should be of very
Speaker 1: like high importance to somebody that an Attorney general participated
Speaker 1: in the obstruction of justice as it relates to a
Speaker 1: woman being murdered. This is this should be a high
Speaker 1: level of of of like concern or something about this
Speaker 1: because this, imagine what they're doing in his office. Imagine
Speaker 1: this was in front of the world. The public get
Speaker 1: got a chance to see and not and and and
Speaker 1: if it were not for Kristen clark uh the head
Speaker 1: of the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice,
Speaker 1: and of course her boss, the Attorney General, Merrick Garland,
Speaker 1: if it were not for them asking the tough questions,
Speaker 1: this would have gone unchecked. No one would know about
Speaker 1: what happened here except us, the people who they said,
Speaker 1: we're crazy. Yeah, I mean, and I think it's important,
Speaker 1: Like when we talk about I want to go back
Speaker 1: on the charges a little bit. I do want the
Speaker 1: listeners to realize that importance when we talk about they
Speaker 1: could have simply stopped with the indictment by saying that
Speaker 1: these officers engaged in the willful deprivation of Brianna Taylor's
Speaker 1: constitutional rights. When they added that result in her death,
Speaker 1: that thump, that violating our civil rights up to a
Speaker 1: whole another level. Like on the state charge, it's basically
Speaker 1: murder like so, so they could have stopped without adding
Speaker 1: results in Brianna Taylor's stuff. So the Department of Justice
Speaker 1: has specifically, you know, said and as they used the words,
Speaker 1: they've alleged that the conduct of these officers, and but
Speaker 1: for the conduct of these officers, Brianna would have been here.
Speaker 1: They had no right to be at her house in
Speaker 1: the first place. And that's the things that you know,
Speaker 1: Daniel Cameron tried to skirt around. You get the the
Speaker 1: the social media or what do we call keyboard warriors
Speaker 1: trying to make allegations about Brianna Taylor and her lifestyle
Speaker 1: and and this and that. But now we know all
Speaker 1: of that was a lie. And that's what these officers
Speaker 1: did to cover up what they knew had been um
Speaker 1: had been uncovered, I asked, but I want to know
Speaker 1: from y'all, like, honestly, did y'all ever lose faith in
Speaker 1: the system? Did you believe? Did you say to yourself, like,
Speaker 1: you know, I really don't believe that these people are
Speaker 1: gonna do right? But my daughter definitely look at Jenna
Speaker 1: and she like, yes, absolutely lost faith. Uh. First of all,
Speaker 1: I wasn't a system that we had much faith in
Speaker 1: to begin with. As black people, we've seen the system
Speaker 1: screw us over a number of times. We've seen this
Speaker 1: system fell us in so many ways. It's it's been unreal.
Speaker 1: So to to start with little faith is one thing,
Speaker 1: and then to go through these different levels of things
Speaker 1: and to only lose what you never really had to
Speaker 1: begin with, was it's I don't I can't even explain
Speaker 1: the thing what you go through? You know, Um, I
Speaker 1: literally mentally I thought, I mentally started to lose my mind.
Speaker 1: That I thought that who am I to to go
Speaker 1: up against a system, as you know, to know that
Speaker 1: this system don't care about us no right? And and
Speaker 1: who did I think I was to try and to
Speaker 1: fight that system, to try and and make them know
Speaker 1: that they messed with the wrong little black girl that day.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, I know, you know because for me, right,
Speaker 1: being so closely engaged in this case, right, and then
Speaker 1: also being engaged with George Floyd just you know, being
Speaker 1: engaged with them. Are Arebrey's mother? Right? And seeing actually
Speaker 1: seeing justice in those cases, right, I know those things
Speaker 1: had to hurt. Like you, you're happy because you had
Speaker 1: grown bonds with these mothers and you're happy for them,
Speaker 1: but at the same time, you're crying to yourself, like
Speaker 1: what about my daughter? You know, what about justice for
Speaker 1: my daughter? So I know that must have been something
Speaker 1: for you to go through that, Like this biggest we
Speaker 1: think because it was for me. Every time that I
Speaker 1: cheered and I was happy, I was like, damn. But
Speaker 1: Brihanna like we like and this is historically and I
Speaker 1: believe this is true based on what Being Crump said,
Speaker 1: like this is the first time justice for a black
Speaker 1: woman has actually been obtained at this level, you know,
Speaker 1: So this is this hopefully, you know, we'll get everything
Speaker 1: we're supposed to get, you know, the maximum charges, the convictions,
Speaker 1: all the things that we're supposed to get. And it's
Speaker 1: set a presidents like like being Crump said that, and
Speaker 1: it's one of the best things I ever heard of
Speaker 1: him said. You know, he said he wants this country
Speaker 1: to value black lives. He wants to make it unsustainable
Speaker 1: for you to to be able to continue to take
Speaker 1: black life because it's gonna cause you too much and
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose your life's at the end of it.
Speaker 1: So you know, I know it's a lot. I just
Speaker 1: wanted to say, your freedom, your freedom, and well, that's life.
Speaker 1: You ain't you ain't got life, You ain't got no freedom,
Speaker 1: You ain't really got no life. Wow. Well, I don't
Speaker 1: know what what would you say if if Lannia, if
Speaker 1: Daniel Cameron was sitting here right now, what would you say? Okay,
Speaker 1: as the eightieth president of the National Bar Association, where
Speaker 1: black what is it eighty thousand black judges and lawyers
Speaker 1: are members, and you were just installed, which means that
Speaker 1: you are at the level right that he's at right
Speaker 1: in terms of your intellect, your ability, and your leader
Speaker 1: him the words out. That's what I'm talking about. He
Speaker 1: can't even he's not even close to the level um
Speaker 1: the the attorneys that I represent. He's not even close
Speaker 1: to that level. Uh, and never could be. He can't
Speaker 1: raise the candle to to the attorneys that. You know,
Speaker 1: I've been mentored by that, I learned from that. I uh,
Speaker 1: you know, lead now, but continue to to educate me
Speaker 1: as well. He could never because he doesn't understand the
Speaker 1: importance of that. But I'm gonna talk about, you know,
Speaker 1: this concept of the justice system and having faith in
Speaker 1: the justice system. And I know we talked about it,
Speaker 1: and I know your listeners get out of us talking
Speaker 1: about voting and the importance of voting. I know the
Speaker 1: justice system is not perfect, but you all have heard
Speaker 1: me say many a time it's the people behind the
Speaker 1: justice system and why it's so important for us to
Speaker 1: vote and make sure we're putting the right plate people
Speaker 1: in the right places so that we have the right prosecutors.
Speaker 1: Daniel Camera never should have been the Attorney general or
Speaker 1: Kentucky in the first place. But when you look at
Speaker 1: people like Keith Ellison and Tish James and Kim Fox
Speaker 1: and people who are doing it and doing it right, uh,
Speaker 1: and have no qualms about Georgian officers when they need
Speaker 1: to want these elected leaders get help like they come
Speaker 1: at them with everything in their in their power. Merlin Moseby.
Speaker 1: We just saw what it was not re elected, UM.
Speaker 1: And so they come at them with everything that I
Speaker 1: might to make sure that they don't stay in those places.
Speaker 1: But it's our responsibility to out there and vote and
Speaker 1: make sure that we're putting the right people in the
Speaker 1: right places for those places where the mayors picked the
Speaker 1: police chiefs. Make sure we're voting for those mayors. And
Speaker 1: in situations we know we don't always agree with President Baden,
Speaker 1: but if this was that other person's Department of Justice,
Speaker 1: we would not be here today. And I don't say
Speaker 1: that other person's name, so so no, we don't always
Speaker 1: agree with them. And yes, he has a lot of
Speaker 1: work to do, uh as it relates to protecting black
Speaker 1: people in public safety and reimagining public safety. But we
Speaker 1: are here because he had enough faith and enough sense
Speaker 1: to put Kristin Clark. So so Kristin Clark as the
Speaker 1: Assistant Attorney General for the Division of Civil Rights, and
Speaker 1: that's where we're seeing the FEDS go after get involved
Speaker 1: in cases like George Floyd and Matt Aubrey, Brianna Taylor, UM.
Speaker 1: And so we just have to always keep that in mind.
Speaker 1: We can't be once so one dimensional in our voting
Speaker 1: that we lose sight of things like that. And I
Speaker 1: was gonna just wanna say one more one thing. So
Speaker 1: there's a report out and it's it's it resurfaces every
Speaker 1: now and then that talks about the amount of white
Speaker 1: supremacists that are in law enforcement, right, And so we
Speaker 1: have to pray for Kristin Clark because keep in mind,
Speaker 1: people need to know the Department of Justice, an Attorney General,
Speaker 1: that's law enforcement. These are these are high level officers
Speaker 1: of the law right. So imagine if they are if
Speaker 1: white supremacists are running rampant in police departments locally, they
Speaker 1: are also in the highest office in terms of in Washington,
Speaker 1: d C. And they don't like what happened today, right,
Speaker 1: they don't like what happened today. This is a big case.
Speaker 1: Rihanna Taylor is probably one of the biggest cases outside
Speaker 1: of George Floyd and and and I and I will say,
Speaker 1: uh and George Floyd's family has sent so many messages
Speaker 1: today where they just crying out, right, because as you said,
Speaker 1: we built and we became family out here fighting and
Speaker 1: we we had to watch George Floyd be lynched in
Speaker 1: a video in order for him to get justice. There
Speaker 1: was no video for Brianna Taylor. So for this to
Speaker 1: have happened and with no video, this is huge, huge
Speaker 1: for our movement because they it is. It is at
Speaker 1: the point where it's become a fetish watching black people
Speaker 1: be murdered for people to say, Okay, well maybe they
Speaker 1: deserve justice. I don't know. If you asked me the question,
Speaker 1: did I believe that it would ever happen, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I can't say that I did. I just can't say
Speaker 1: that I did, because the things that the pieces needed
Speaker 1: Amad are prey. There was a video finally that came
Speaker 1: out that showed these guys what did they do? They
Speaker 1: tracked him and they murdered him. They shot him. We
Speaker 1: had to watch that in order for him to get justice.
Speaker 1: For Brianna to be a black woman, because we know
Speaker 1: the system gives two ships less about black women, to
Speaker 1: be a black woman, for Kenny to have fired a shot,
Speaker 1: they wanted to lean on that as much as they
Speaker 1: could and to hear Merrick Garland say today that this
Speaker 1: was a lawful gun owner, so he had every right
Speaker 1: to shoot that shot. And we should talk about Kenny
Speaker 1: and what he might be you know, experience. And I
Speaker 1: know you talked to Kenny today. How was he feeling?
Speaker 1: What did he say to me? Girl? Uh? He was overwhelmed,
Speaker 1: he was he was full of emotion. He was you know,
Speaker 1: happy and sad. You know it's sad again to say
Speaker 1: like he almost lost his life over this. And you
Speaker 1: know that Hankinson was charged. In Hankinson's indictment, it included
Speaker 1: visitors to Brianna's home, So that is Kenny. It's it
Speaker 1: Brianna and her visitors, which is Kenny Walker because I
Speaker 1: was the only person that in her home that night.
Speaker 1: So Kenny is also getting some symbols of justice today. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: you know what I wanted you to. I want you
Speaker 1: to talk about. They say there's a someone has already pleaded.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that's important. That's important because he was
Speaker 1: always just charged. Don't say that. But it's a lot
Speaker 1: different when somebody has already pleaded and admitted to what happened.
Speaker 1: What is that about? Yeah? So, so, um, Detective Kelly
Speaker 1: Gootlet she was, Um it's a junior members, detective. Don't
Speaker 1: and don't quote me on that. I'm pretty sure she
Speaker 1: was detective, but the detective because that unit was everyone
Speaker 1: was detective, but she was like a junior member of
Speaker 1: the team. So James and Sergeant Meni were Meni were
Speaker 1: definitely her superiors, UM and her And so when they
Speaker 1: said information, it was about as an information because they
Speaker 1: didn't need to indict her because she had already entered
Speaker 1: her her guilty plea prior to uh so, they didn't
Speaker 1: need to present it to her to a grand jury
Speaker 1: because she played guilty to conspiracy and in that she
Speaker 1: she she gave information involving knowing that when they submitted
Speaker 1: the search warrants to the judge to be signed that
Speaker 1: it was feeling that that Brianna's was not true, that
Speaker 1: it was old information, and that they um basically fabricated information.
Speaker 1: Uh so to get her UM to get that warrant
Speaker 1: to make sure that a judge was signed up warrant.
Speaker 1: Then she talked about once it became public that they
Speaker 1: lied on the warrant, meaning that the postal inspector came
Speaker 1: and said, that's not true. I never said that Marcus
Speaker 1: Glover was receiving packages. There. They met in somebody's garage
Speaker 1: and began to plot and plan, so so Joshua Jaans,
Speaker 1: Sergeant Meany and good Lit. They were meeting to figure
Speaker 1: out how are we going to cover this up? And
Speaker 1: remember they came out with that however long police report
Speaker 1: acting like they had seen you know, Brianna here and
Speaker 1: there and just really trying to push information out. So
Speaker 1: they intentionally withheld and fabricating information on the search warrant.
Speaker 1: But then they also when they were caught, trying to
Speaker 1: cover it up and figure out how they were going
Speaker 1: to cover it up. And and so she she's she
Speaker 1: was cooperating and that's why she was So she played
Speaker 1: it's good. It's good a lot because that's been one
Speaker 1: of the main things people like, oh charges, And I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's a lot different when you already have somebody blowing
Speaker 1: the whistle. Somebody's admitting that they would mean they knew
Speaker 1: that they colluded and they were in, you know, in
Speaker 1: they would do it. They was involved, say, I mean
Speaker 1: and to a certain extent, you know, they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to make sure that she's protected too. When we talk
Speaker 1: about Christen Clark or this or that, like, we gotta
Speaker 1: make sure that she's protected because we're gonna need her
Speaker 1: for that trail in the long run, right, um, And
Speaker 1: so she broke up. She knew that they were on
Speaker 1: her ass to see. That's the other thing, because we
Speaker 1: can't be giving these people brownies for first of all,
Speaker 1: doing what's right and waiting two years to do what
Speaker 1: was right, because she should have told the truth from
Speaker 1: the beginning. But regardless, she did it today. But that's
Speaker 1: because she knew that they knew. We they she knew
Speaker 1: that the Feds knew, because we already understand that when
Speaker 1: the Feds come, they generally know what they're talking about,
Speaker 1: and they have all of the facts or much of
Speaker 1: it in front of them. And so she basically saved herself.
Speaker 1: So that's people just need to be clear about that.
Speaker 1: Let's not go start praising this lady like you know,
Speaker 1: she's some some hero. No, she was saying herself by
Speaker 1: throwing the rest to them under the bus. And you know,
Speaker 1: if we had more officers who before it even gets
Speaker 1: to this point, would come forward because guess what, there
Speaker 1: are other people who may not have even been involved,
Speaker 1: but they knew there was lies. They knew there was
Speaker 1: a cover up. And we need law enforcement, the good
Speaker 1: cops that we hear about all the time to do
Speaker 1: the right thing and come forward because that that meeting
Speaker 1: in the garage. Those garages are all over the nation.
Speaker 1: People are cops are meeting all over the country off
Speaker 1: you know, somewhere where they think nobody can hear and see,
Speaker 1: making up stories to to to to explain away the
Speaker 1: murder of black people. And I know y'all are t
Speaker 1: Thank y'all so much, but coming on safe. We love
Speaker 1: you all, man, and it's no more. It ain't gonna
Speaker 1: be eight hundred seventy five. You know, today is a
Speaker 1: whole new day they want again. We'll get a different
Speaker 1: type of sleep tonight. You know, when you talk to
Speaker 1: Brianna a nighttime tonight, you're gonna say, we fought for you, baby,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's gonna be. We ain't all the
Speaker 1: way there, but it's definitely feel a lot closer than
Speaker 1: we were on the other side. That's a different feeling.
Speaker 1: Took us to. She took us somewhere we've never been
Speaker 1: even imagine even imagine a man, thank you, thank you,
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, thanks, yeah right, that's how we are
Speaker 1: once again. Shout out to Kristen Clark. Yeah, I got
Speaker 1: to give our sister that's my sister. Listen, shout out
Speaker 1: to her. Shut up to everybody who did the right thing.
Speaker 1: You know. We went to the d o J a
Speaker 1: few months back, you know, and we presented four of petitions,
Speaker 1: you know, and we said we need y'all to open
Speaker 1: up investigation. We need you all to do the right thing,
Speaker 1: and you know, and she says she was working. She said, look,
Speaker 1: we're doing all. We're gonna we're going to look at
Speaker 1: this case and it's not going to just go unseen.
Speaker 1: Please believe that in today. But you know, she could
Speaker 1: not say that there would be charges brought because she
Speaker 1: didn't know that. She said they would do that diligence,
Speaker 1: but she could not say the charges would be brought
Speaker 1: because she didn't know that. It took the local FBI
Speaker 1: to after, you know, after they investigated, to go to
Speaker 1: her and say, okay, we found things here, because otherwise
Speaker 1: we would not be seeing this. I mean, you just
Speaker 1: have to be straight up about what has happened, because
Speaker 1: they're gonna be some people are gonna try to make
Speaker 1: it seem like because Kristen Clark is a black woman
Speaker 1: who came out of our movement, that she's just going
Speaker 1: around were charging the woman. When somebody goes in as
Speaker 1: that we did this wrong, and and we sat afterwards,
Speaker 1: we colluded and said, how are we gonna cover this
Speaker 1: up like that? Ain't gonna do it, Chris. It's just
Speaker 1: the fact that Daniel Cameron didn't go find that lady
Speaker 1: who did this? Right? She didn't did she didn't look
Speaker 1: for that. He didn't look for that information anything exactly.
Speaker 1: And it was there. That information was there because we
Speaker 1: kept saying, how do you get a search for for
Speaker 1: somebody who has nothing to do with this situation? When
Speaker 1: when people kept saying that the postmaster said that he
Speaker 1: never said that there was packages being said there. Right,
Speaker 1: So all of those things we knew that somebody had
Speaker 1: covered up. And if Dan you Cameron had did a
Speaker 1: little bit of his job, we wouldn't have to have
Speaker 1: the Feds get involved, you know. So that means the
Speaker 1: fens actually did their job. They did and that's and listen,
Speaker 1: she said, the only thing I can promise is that
Speaker 1: we're going to be fair and just and we're gonna
Speaker 1: do our jobs. And that's all we want because we
Speaker 1: don't want your treatment, we don't want favors, we don't
Speaker 1: want any of that. We just want and justice department,
Speaker 1: a justice department that at least will look at these
Speaker 1: cases and we'll ask the right questions to get the
Speaker 1: answers that they need so that they can determine if
Speaker 1: someone's life was taken unjustice. That's what we want. We want,
Speaker 1: and that's what happened here to say to everybody, because
Speaker 1: this was all of us. This was a collective effort.
Speaker 1: It was athletes, it was entertainers, it was rappers and musicians,
Speaker 1: it was time, it was grassroots organizations, it was regular
Speaker 1: individuals Louisville, the whole rereeway, everybody who said Brianna Taylor's name,
Speaker 1: who would not allow the world to just forget about
Speaker 1: a young black woman who died in her home. You know,
Speaker 1: this is this is what it looks like when you
Speaker 1: don't allow somebody to stop you from fighting, when you believe,
Speaker 1: when you constantly stand up. You know, a lot of us,
Speaker 1: you know, until freedom, we moved back. We moved here
Speaker 1: to Louisville, you know, and we and we said to ourselves,
Speaker 1: we wasn't going home until they were justice for Brianna Taylor.
Speaker 1: And we've been here and back and forth ever since.
Speaker 1: You know, so there's a level of just level we
Speaker 1: can exhale somebody because there's trials and guess what these
Speaker 1: people are not gonna take and laying down the lawyers
Speaker 1: and they're gonna try to fight. Yeah. But for me,
Speaker 1: it was just that nobody would even acknowledge that they
Speaker 1: took this woman's life. There was there was nothing of
Speaker 1: It was just us just saying, Yo, they killed this woman.
Speaker 1: Somebody killed that, somebody is responsible for her death, her
Speaker 1: wrongful death. And you're telling us that the wolves are
Speaker 1: more important than Brianna Taylor, and you know, and today
Speaker 1: somebody said no, that she should still be alive, that
Speaker 1: what they did was wrong and it caused her death
Speaker 1: and she was The crazy part about it is that
Speaker 1: listening because we knew this already, but listening to Marrick
Speaker 1: gard and today they were not even supposed to be
Speaker 1: at her house at all. They were not even supposed
Speaker 1: to be And so these faulty warrants, lies on the warrants,
Speaker 1: no knock warrants and all of this with it with
Speaker 1: these officers. Did they put this woman's life in danger
Speaker 1: before they even got to her house because they lied
Speaker 1: on a warrant knowing that it would bring armed officers
Speaker 1: to her house and therefore anything can happen. And look
Speaker 1: at what mess occurred that night. It's just so much.
Speaker 1: It's scary though, because it feels like, imagine this, it's
Speaker 1: going on all over the country and they are lying,
Speaker 1: and the President of the United States, who has a
Speaker 1: Justice Department that's trying to do one job of making
Speaker 1: law enforcement accountable, he's over here. It's tone death. It's
Speaker 1: tone death for President Biden to be talking about adding
Speaker 1: a hundred thousand cops into a system that is criminal
Speaker 1: in the way in which it approaches public safety for
Speaker 1: black people. And you're gonna put a hundred thousand more
Speaker 1: cops on the street because your position is, well, there's
Speaker 1: crime is violent, So what we're gonna what we're gonna
Speaker 1: do is there's the violent poky and we're gonna put
Speaker 1: violent officers Robb on top of them. It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: We need a hundred thousand peace keys. We need a
Speaker 1: hundred We need thirteen billion dollar investment in jobs, food safety.
Speaker 1: That's what we need. Because we know the numbers show
Speaker 1: that communities who have resources, you know, you know, so
Speaker 1: you really, I mean, they have they have very little crimes.
Speaker 1: The poorest communities are the highest crime communities, and we
Speaker 1: know that. So if you invest in the community, invest
Speaker 1: in education, you invest in resources, You're invest in after
Speaker 1: school programs, You're invest in you know, the food, so
Speaker 1: kids have good food, mental health, and be invested in
Speaker 1: the community, that the individuals who actually can intervene and
Speaker 1: stop the violence in the communities. We know that that
Speaker 1: is a a way better approach approach to public. So
Speaker 1: once again, man shout out to everybody who fall for
Speaker 1: Brianna Taylor. If you said her name, if you watched,
Speaker 1: if you tweet it, if you did anything, this is
Speaker 1: a victory for you. And so yeah, got you. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna always be right to me. It's not gonna
Speaker 1: always be wrong. We'll both fight until free peace peace.
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