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Speaker 1: right now. When it come to two man groups, if
Speaker 1: it wasn't for them, yeah, well we got the White Charger.
Speaker 1: You gotta relax, all right when it comes to two
Speaker 1: man groups. If it wasn't for these two brothers right
Speaker 1: here standing in front of us, I don't think that
Speaker 1: me and this brother to the left of me would
Speaker 1: even exist. These guys not only stood to test the
Speaker 1: time when hip hop you had to be a real
Speaker 1: m C meaning you had to know how to rhyme,
Speaker 1: you know how, you had to have to do beat,
Speaker 1: You had to you had to do all of that,
Speaker 1: and these guys are the epito epitome. You go, oh
Speaker 1: that you got still the test of time. You stuck together.
Speaker 1: I know it's rough because it's be rough with this nigga,
Speaker 1: So I know it's rough with me. It's not like
Speaker 1: I'm perfect, but it'd be rough for him with me.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, you gotta stood together for over
Speaker 1: the time you're stood together, you represented Long Island's strongest
Speaker 1: Right now in the building, what drink Champs? We got
Speaker 1: my personal favorite group, e mother fucking be empty Max.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I want to take it to the
Speaker 1: very beginning because first off, just the name EPMD how
Speaker 1: how what? What was your thought process when you say
Speaker 1: we're gonna be a group because everybody prior to that
Speaker 1: they didn't have names like that. Well, Pat's got the
Speaker 1: real I'm gonna give you mine thing too. At the end,
Speaker 1: I just think of that, I tell you by all
Speaker 1: the time. You know, run d m C is who
Speaker 1: we we look after Me and Paris drove to Manhattan
Speaker 1: to buy sucking mcs from Long Island. You know when
Speaker 1: the first thing came out, were great? Yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 1: you know Paris you know figured that you know Erican Parish.
Speaker 1: You know, we wanted to make money, so epm D
Speaker 1: making dollars. But run DMC again you can tell, took
Speaker 1: the line the whole. It was okay with it. So
Speaker 1: he's like, yo, you know, go ahead. You guys were
Speaker 1: actually on depth JAM and run DMC never was on
Speaker 1: depth jam. Is that correct? You know we end up
Speaker 1: in later but were managed by Russia. So when we
Speaker 1: got managed by Rush, Leo took it because it was
Speaker 1: spelled e p e e m D m D, just
Speaker 1: like it was spelled e P e E m D.
Speaker 1: When we got signed the Rush. He changed management, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Ruch management. They changed in the logo and got the
Speaker 1: guy yea, yeah, Hayes, famous guy now and who changed
Speaker 1: the logo to fall of us and look it up
Speaker 1: like that. That's because past car, I'm the P double
Speaker 1: E M D. That's what so we in the rhyme,
Speaker 1: we spelled it that way, you know, because we forget
Speaker 1: that that was it was like that on that on
Speaker 1: this small wifee hey, hey mom, and and look that's
Speaker 1: that's mama law brother in law. Come on, yo, I
Speaker 1: think losses. I saw you with overseas. You know you
Speaker 1: booge you overseas though, yeah, it's different, it's different, just
Speaker 1: differing over the seas. You gotta work up differ over
Speaker 1: one of the overseas. You know you are not a
Speaker 1: different person on the headlines overseas. The whole big thing.
Speaker 1: I can't moving for him. The music was louder. What
Speaker 1: is this? Let people know? That's how that's how you know,
Speaker 1: that's how you know good people because you know, I
Speaker 1: see the story a totally opposite way. You know what.
Speaker 1: I want to keep it between you because at that time,
Speaker 1: when you guys came out, it was a tough time
Speaker 1: in hip hop, meaning you actually had to really really
Speaker 1: be good like right now, these people will say but
Speaker 1: they could get on and they have, but that's not
Speaker 1: the time you guys came out. Question. When you guys
Speaker 1: came out, you guys actually had to know how to rhyme.
Speaker 1: You guys formed a crazy crew. But but but let's
Speaker 1: I just want to describe those moments, how hard it
Speaker 1: was back then to these young guys, and you gotta
Speaker 1: take a shot, yo, No, I'm sorry, listen, yes yo.
Speaker 1: Basically us coming from long Allen, you know who Gainst
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Queens. We always felt we had to work harder.
Speaker 1: But once Public Enemy dropped, then rock Him and Wine
Speaker 1: Dance dropped. You know, I went to Wine dask one
Speaker 1: day and it was six bodies out there. They kept barbecue,
Speaker 1: and they kept barbecue like this is this is nothing.
Speaker 1: They're like, yo, that's like yo, come on, you gotta
Speaker 1: keep what the six bodies and this is the time
Speaker 1: for people think your little house. And I was like, no,
Speaker 1: they got to confuse, no question. So me and he
Speaker 1: always just you know, kept our pin down, feeling like,
Speaker 1: you know, you had care of restaurant coming from the Bronx,
Speaker 1: you had Big Daddy Kane, you had Slick Rick Lotty Dotty.
Speaker 1: So when we came in, you know, we just wanted
Speaker 1: to have that impact. Always felt that we had to
Speaker 1: work harder and then at the end wind up coming off.
Speaker 1: Now let's take it to this slow down baby, right
Speaker 1: what man? What? I don't know, I don't know what
Speaker 1: some of that wash, but I know you can that
Speaker 1: whole fucking hole. We were back there though the world
Speaker 1: was going to a war. We just got off a
Speaker 1: sleeping back records on the Death Jam that first time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was your first Yeah, yeah, Khali, they had they
Speaker 1: had ordered the record he was on with his fresh
Speaker 1: Weeping Back. It was nice. Move was on the label. Two.
Speaker 1: We had a pretty good labels, Moves on the preg
Speaker 1: Mat was on there with the first single Zoom Zoom
Speaker 1: Zoom man Tronics so not and we had parents was dead.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I wasn't even it was yeah. So basically
Speaker 1: between we got caught in between labels. But they was like, yo,
Speaker 1: keep working though, so it was like wow, we kept
Speaker 1: the legs moving. Then we went in the studio. We
Speaker 1: put down the Rampage because the way we was feeling,
Speaker 1: we felt like an album was going to be held up.
Speaker 1: You know. Most people was like, yo, you got you
Speaker 1: got past the sophomore drinks with Unfinished Business. So Eric
Speaker 1: and I was like, yo, you know what you see
Speaker 1: the cover were standing in the swamp with the guns
Speaker 1: pointing out us, you know, the helicopters above, and then
Speaker 1: the rampage because we that's the same album as I'm Mad.
Speaker 1: Here's a little story album. What made you guys want
Speaker 1: to work with l L? Because but Leo and then
Speaker 1: put LL on us because you know why, this is
Speaker 1: the reason why I'm telling you as an outside of
Speaker 1: looking at because I really wasn't a part of hip hop.
Speaker 1: I was just a fan of the guy on the
Speaker 1: on the benches and um at that time, AL was
Speaker 1: kind of crossover and you guys were kind of representing
Speaker 1: the underground hip street. But you just heard it just
Speaker 1: now the reason why Leo and then felt that L
Speaker 1: should be on this on this lane. So it was
Speaker 1: so when Mama said, Leo, any, so you heard the
Speaker 1: next album, Mama said, not exactly was the panther. Everything
Speaker 1: came up after hanging, he said, hanging with these guys
Speaker 1: and then Marley and then Bang that album came out
Speaker 1: because because you guys was like the official you guys
Speaker 1: with the original the reginal m O P. What I
Speaker 1: mean by that is the audience that you guys brung
Speaker 1: out at that time was super streak, like I can't
Speaker 1: I'm scared of you. I kind of kind of still
Speaker 1: scared of y'all. Want to look at I'm a fan,
Speaker 1: but at that time, that's that's why I always wondered,
Speaker 1: like why did they have L? Because and now I'm
Speaker 1: being for queens, but L was kind of like, you know,
Speaker 1: doing and doing like he was like you know he
Speaker 1: was different. Yeah, but the big L was still talk talk.
Speaker 1: It's always giving Sunday, like you don't get rust. So
Speaker 1: you know we knew, we knew that. Yeah, we wanted
Speaker 1: to bring you know, we even got this thing and like, no,
Speaker 1: let's get back because we just had l We just
Speaker 1: to the I was on on the d N with
Speaker 1: just two hours ago. But let's get back to the
Speaker 1: first beat was House had to Squash. The first peep
Speaker 1: we had was the rock kimb. This is the I
Speaker 1: was getting to that. Yeah, thank you for going there first.
Speaker 1: How did this happen? This is Long Island because we
Speaker 1: two towns away. Kim was my mentor. This is to me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, when I heard him, I thought the name
Speaker 1: was rock wind somebody like you know some things we
Speaker 1: rock wind came out rock Winds. That's why I thought
Speaker 1: that was hard. All of a sudden, you gotta relax.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden. He was two towns over. So
Speaker 1: the record came out, so me and parents like, yo,
Speaker 1: this is the most eliship we ever heard. The alert
Speaker 1: came the next day and played Nobody Beats the Beis.
Speaker 1: That was another big gas record. Nobody yea but rock him,
Speaker 1: I ain't no joke. You can get the smack, but
Speaker 1: this ain't no joke. Paris came back and said, like
Speaker 1: a digma smack, you smack me and I smack you back.
Speaker 1: I'm just and the right. I never caught that man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the two towns did because it's long allee. Okay,
Speaker 1: Kim made this ship called father Leader, said, brother said him,
Speaker 1: I never dun be coming fill leading. That's why I
Speaker 1: drug him in the danger zone. So he went and
Speaker 1: I'm when I kemping not working with him. Let's keep
Speaker 1: me my Palas was in front of both. We're not
Speaker 1: walking with him though. We come to the students. You
Speaker 1: know it comes on the anniversary of the first coached ship,
Speaker 1: doesn't in front of us, shakes the mic nor and
Speaker 1: rolls it like dice like you know like and rolls
Speaker 1: the mike to y'all. I don't. I don't know this
Speaker 1: because he was wrong. So it used to be called
Speaker 1: the building in Manhattan, right. So him and Palas at
Speaker 1: the bar talking. How you know old niggas came out
Speaker 1: Old niggas like building. So him and he at the
Speaker 1: bar talking, and Pie said, you're either talking with you
Speaker 1: were quick so p called me over and he squatted
Speaker 1: the be right there in the bar. Yeah, was right there.
Speaker 1: That was the first one where the first one that
Speaker 1: they they caught me in the building by myself on
Speaker 1: the folly floor. It was looking like it was like
Speaker 1: like the following video said something like, yat, you're stressing me.
Speaker 1: I never even heard that word stressing me the blue
Speaker 1: you wanted. So I'm looking, I'm waiting for I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're looking easily. I can't find them nowhere in the building.
Speaker 1: So I was like, yo, let me check in the
Speaker 1: spot where we never go. You know, you got all
Speaker 1: these winds. We don't go in that wing over. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna keep him moving. I walked past the door. I
Speaker 1: come in and Eric and Rock Chim is like this
Speaker 1: nose to know the way. We're just in perpects office.
Speaker 1: So that's the counting. Yeah, all of space and see
Speaker 1: ye perfect. I'm sorry he continue. So once I've seen
Speaker 1: that scene, I already knew it was a situation, you know,
Speaker 1: big respect to Rock him. I was like, um, basically,
Speaker 1: I don't even know what's going on in here, but
Speaker 1: to see them a little correct must be in the
Speaker 1: miss understanding. Rock him, was smooth with it and we
Speaker 1: rolled out. But when I got there and I was like, yo,
Speaker 1: what's up, he was like nah, Like East said, na,
Speaker 1: your man stressed out to me? What did that mean?
Speaker 1: Stressed me? You know what I mean now? But it
Speaker 1: wasn't in the hip hop sling yet you just yet
Speaker 1: he came out late. Yeah, that's a late term. You
Speaker 1: know that came out. He came out early with that.
Speaker 1: He said to me, he said, he said that to you,
Speaker 1: to me about he was the one who had the problem.
Speaker 1: It was something happened to I was something happened with
Speaker 1: the album. And he's my mentor. So what happened was
Speaker 1: I just told the girls I didn't like the new
Speaker 1: one like I liked the past album that and it
Speaker 1: came back to me somehow, you know, not that. I
Speaker 1: was like, yo, how can I thish you When I'm
Speaker 1: on one side of the tape I got happy now
Speaker 1: with the people president the other side it is Businmarpe like,
Speaker 1: I'm I talk about you all the time, But why
Speaker 1: is that always like that? Why is it like are
Speaker 1: people wrong with us? Like why it's not? But it's
Speaker 1: the people around it that started to beat you don't
Speaker 1: got no be your your friends and start just like
Speaker 1: it's just like queens, right queens. You know, Core Mega
Speaker 1: will have beef with nas on Nas will have beef
Speaker 1: with I'm just making examples and a campone. But then
Speaker 1: all actually we all together, So why do we can't
Speaker 1: get along with each other? Like when I look at Compton,
Speaker 1: I'd be like damn sometimes because you know, they're all
Speaker 1: beef on with each other, and I'm like, damn, Why
Speaker 1: is it like that for our community? Well? I think
Speaker 1: probably because we wasn't advanced with the business and we
Speaker 1: have to learned. So we was dealing with a business
Speaker 1: that was more than advance than us. We were just
Speaker 1: coming up out of the hood. So as years go on,
Speaker 1: we learned the game. We know the game, but for
Speaker 1: the new cats, they don't know the game. So they
Speaker 1: learned in the game and then top and inside of that,
Speaker 1: that's where the miscommunication and a little funny business go down.
Speaker 1: But me and Cuba man friends Matthew because Cuba on
Speaker 1: the tour bus when you book with n W A
Speaker 1: Paris told him how to get how to do it.
Speaker 1: That's right out to break up, to leave the well
Speaker 1: in the way it comes for like two months because
Speaker 1: you know, you get opened up West Coast Base. He
Speaker 1: opened up for us like people introducing hing as a
Speaker 1: group on the scott and then he went because he's
Speaker 1: working with and then he came to ter five days
Speaker 1: so so so so yeah, yeah, you gotta relax. So
Speaker 1: please please please place, please place, please place. What up?
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Speaker 1: came in New York. Y'all connected with him, no reason
Speaker 1: on the tour Lose the West. We was talking. He
Speaker 1: came on out bus and just stayed for like four
Speaker 1: or five days. Why but why we was running was
Speaker 1: ring shows. You know, stay on y'all bucks. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we started wrapping, you know, started kicking l a. I
Speaker 1: would get he would come pick me up in the Suzuki,
Speaker 1: go to crib and go chills me and I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I point your shots. I'm sorry. You know
Speaker 1: you know why because you know it's nothing will take one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let them more that I would like to do in
Speaker 1: my life. Don't drink driving drunk. Just look at kid
Speaker 1: and saying slow down, you got chip, I'm not drinking.
Speaker 1: But when I'm just the hip, you know, you know
Speaker 1: he yeah, that's the best bocket in the world. Ain't
Speaker 1: the best? Who's the best? The best in the world.
Speaker 1: We make it right here, Betty, But can we side
Speaker 1: by this seriously for real? Because to see you in
Speaker 1: the sea loan and this is I'm just happy. But
Speaker 1: definitely we always not been behind the gun, but always
Speaker 1: been the people who somebody who said they ain't gonna
Speaker 1: do it again, or the crews. We had every rapper
Speaker 1: that we had, they wasn't good enough. And then we
Speaker 1: showed the doctor effects. When we showed Reggie, we showed Murray,
Speaker 1: we showed Solo, We everyone that was behind the gun. Nobody.
Speaker 1: We got turned down by them, turned by by a
Speaker 1: lot of labels, but we believed in them. Going over
Speaker 1: here to you, you chose to do something and people
Speaker 1: probably were looking at you like you was crazy. I'm
Speaker 1: the sidebar and so you know what I did that.
Speaker 1: I was real with me and my car saying that,
Speaker 1: even if I didn't know it, I felt it like, yeah,
Speaker 1: motherfucker's that you have me underneath the because the game
Speaker 1: then changed. Look at me now, I changed with the game.
Speaker 1: Look at my new check. Yes, it's very very, it's
Speaker 1: very Look at my show. Look at the guests has
Speaker 1: come to see me. Yes, and we having fun. I
Speaker 1: want to think he said, yeah, I had to come.
Speaker 1: He had to because he said he could one. I
Speaker 1: had to come because the numbers. You know what that feelings.
Speaker 1: So I felt that for him. That's why I said
Speaker 1: that from you and crazy, but I'm add on to
Speaker 1: you eight because our culture, like I have went to accounts, Yes,
Speaker 1: I went to accounts office. And I've seen Mick Jag
Speaker 1: all these other white guys. They touring and they celebrate that,
Speaker 1: they talk, they celebrate the day. Been in this game
Speaker 1: for twenty years, yes, but hip hop if you if
Speaker 1: you once you have ten years, they call you old,
Speaker 1: they call you washed up, they say you don't got
Speaker 1: it on more. And I just, I just I just
Speaker 1: want to play my part of saying you please tell
Speaker 1: these people to be quiet. I just want to play
Speaker 1: my part of changing that for hip hop. Because the
Speaker 1: more and and and it's awesome that you broke up Europe,
Speaker 1: the more old school you are in Europe, the more
Speaker 1: they love you. They love you with Europe. So why
Speaker 1: we can't reverse that the coach and make that ship.
Speaker 1: Because the thing about it is, if it wasn't for
Speaker 1: a P M D, there wouldn't be a mob D,
Speaker 1: there wouldn't be a coonent, there wouldn't be an m
Speaker 1: O P. So why shouldn't not be celebrated because we
Speaker 1: came up differently. Don't forget Flay, Folks don't say old
Speaker 1: school and Mick Jagger old school, Old schools just a name.
Speaker 1: We gotta put the age on it. I heard one
Speaker 1: Rappititel said about four years ago, Jayson needs to stop
Speaker 1: rapping and give somebody else a shot. No, you gotta
Speaker 1: step the game up. If you think that he imposed
Speaker 1: to be here. You know we're the only coach of
Speaker 1: fucking vibstration was sent me to. Just dropped the album
Speaker 1: with number one for McCarty is still getting Grammys. It
Speaker 1: don't matter if they look at their coaches. They look
Speaker 1: at them and they still give them props and enjoy them.
Speaker 1: And as they told you a legend, so nobody should
Speaker 1: disrespect that. Like somebody to say, listen, what are we
Speaker 1: doing now? I'm still touring. We're still making twenty thousand
Speaker 1: dollars a night, So Pepper still making forty thollars a night.
Speaker 1: Hands they always look and say what are you doing now?
Speaker 1: That's why I said what I said about you. You
Speaker 1: don't never know what they're doing. At least actpers don't
Speaker 1: just making thing. Nobody's doing nothing. Everyone era is on
Speaker 1: the road and some Peppers they had they was towing
Speaker 1: so much they had to take a break. Making forty
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a night from June to September. How much money?
Speaker 1: Is that exactly? I'm just saying that anybody is doing that.
Speaker 1: So when you so, how do we change that in
Speaker 1: hip hop? How do we actually like because me and
Speaker 1: my partner d right, me and DJ Fan, that's that
Speaker 1: was our dream is to say, you know what we said,
Speaker 1: we're gonna start the show, but we only want to
Speaker 1: We didn't want to interview the new people, not because
Speaker 1: we got something personal with it, but we don't know
Speaker 1: their history. Like I know your history. I know what
Speaker 1: you guys been through, right, I know. So it's easier
Speaker 1: for me to interview you because it's easier for me
Speaker 1: to sit then chop it up and we have these
Speaker 1: stories that you oversee smacking me back of my head
Speaker 1: and like you know, and then like you I was
Speaker 1: just performing. Every just came bound. What's at still has
Speaker 1: twenty five million people, but you out how the partners
Speaker 1: bumped out. But how do we actually how do we
Speaker 1: actually change that in the hip hop? How do we
Speaker 1: that this is what I mean piece all the time? Okay,
Speaker 1: we're the only jard who don't got categories. If Jens
Speaker 1: Joplin was here, Brindy Spills wouldn't be in a category
Speaker 1: because you'd be like bitch you and pop right, So
Speaker 1: to be heavy metal pop a turn of music should have.
Speaker 1: We shouldn't be Mary Dave Blosses something pepper. I mean
Speaker 1: Blosses and Um and all the other black singers are
Speaker 1: in hip hop category. It's a culture, so it should
Speaker 1: be it's trapping what it is. It should be trapped.
Speaker 1: If it should be you know, club music, it should
Speaker 1: be club hip hop. It should have cindgories. Even jazz
Speaker 1: got he listening jazz, adult jazz, bady jazz. It got
Speaker 1: said categories. We wouldn't be having no problems. So you're
Speaker 1: telling me Drake should be like in them. It's something
Speaker 1: else below slow rap. I don't know, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's independent because here's a dope. Hip hop artis hip
Speaker 1: hop too, But a lot of stuff should be labeled
Speaker 1: something else. You can't call no disrespect, but you can't
Speaker 1: call this new music hip hop, no disrespect of them
Speaker 1: were gonna be labeled something else because the coach that
Speaker 1: we come from, it's not that. That's not it's not
Speaker 1: the one under one umbrella. And you know, if it
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with m C and radical skills,
Speaker 1: the boom bat with the high hat like a real
Speaker 1: m C. You had to have BDP rock Cam. I
Speaker 1: came through the door, you know what I mean the party,
Speaker 1: you have things. You know, we have certain things that
Speaker 1: we said before, how your hip hop was was the coach?
Speaker 1: We fired elements. If you're adding B box, it's wrapping
Speaker 1: DJ an't your fee and breakdancing and you want to
Speaker 1: add I mean be box newcast. But but it's a coach.
Speaker 1: But you gotta follow the same laws as from seventy
Speaker 1: eight that went down to you know, rise or whatever
Speaker 1: else where. Stop that, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: just right here, you can't call this because just don't
Speaker 1: fit the culture the coach and hip hop is something.
Speaker 1: But you know, but they don't have nothing else to call. Say,
Speaker 1: throw it in there. They threw TLC in there too.
Speaker 1: Whenever they can throw in there that looks like it's urban,
Speaker 1: it's under hip hop coaching. But we got to realize
Speaker 1: we walked away kind of from the game and stopped
Speaker 1: working and being productive productive, you know, back there like
Speaker 1: a ninety two when we've seen them dropping music and
Speaker 1: we felt that was like popped and we dropped the
Speaker 1: We didn't say that's what they said. What the Saw
Speaker 1: said earlier? He said, Mike Saw said, silence is almost
Speaker 1: co signed. Yeah, so when you saw you here, Yeah right,
Speaker 1: I said, did something real on Instagram two weeks ago.
Speaker 1: That was real? Yeah, And I told us my Saw said,
Speaker 1: he said, you said silence is almost except acceptance, you know.
Speaker 1: So it's like what we did was we left the
Speaker 1: bank vault open with all the gap in it, and
Speaker 1: they came in and took a couple of bundles. Nobody
Speaker 1: said nothing, so they just started taking the money back
Speaker 1: so we could sit back and complain. Or what you did.
Speaker 1: You opened up before him and you drew a line
Speaker 1: and you said, this is what I'm gonna do. And
Speaker 1: this is not old school. These guys are legends and
Speaker 1: they deserved the respect. Right now. You can interview whoever
Speaker 1: you want because you're big, but you choose to give
Speaker 1: us a platform, which is dope, Like who's doing this?
Speaker 1: But I don't think this is what I bug out
Speaker 1: or not to be going. But the radio DJs who
Speaker 1: we remember that was all playing our ships, y'all still
Speaker 1: our age, y'all forgot that who you know? How you
Speaker 1: have that you don't know you wantn't hip hop at
Speaker 1: one time. Now you'll change. That was bugging me out
Speaker 1: because they all got the same jobs and they forgot
Speaker 1: that that we existed, or that music existed. That's the
Speaker 1: point I don't understand. So what what what? What is?
Speaker 1: What is Eric Sherman listening to right now? I'll play
Speaker 1: old old. I feel like I just play Army but
Speaker 1: Me and Powers gotta album that we're gonna call Dynamic Duels.
Speaker 1: And y'all written down your company. You had a rug company. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're going up. You never gave me lett's. Let's get
Speaker 1: those ship good. I've been I've been, I've been hating
Speaker 1: for a long time. I've been, Hey, I'm playing. I've
Speaker 1: been seeing everybody with a rug besides me. Problem is playing.
Speaker 1: We got a new acronym. I don't know what you're doing.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're doing right now, but I've
Speaker 1: been stopping, stopping, relax. I'm gonna be honest. It's now
Speaker 1: we're on the road. I'm gonna say, Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: that's what we're gonna do. That's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1: Drink chaps, rub goes to the office, our ship goes
Speaker 1: to a shop check. But damn, I'm not gonna lie
Speaker 1: like I'm not taking that one. That was another one. Yeah, yo,
Speaker 1: drink chap. I'm so sorry. So I know that. The
Speaker 1: interview right last, what is that? Because that better? You
Speaker 1: know what? You know what, you know what I want.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you. We interviewed Onyx, and
Speaker 1: Onyx gave me a pair of sneakers and then they
Speaker 1: asked me what size was it. I said, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: I'm never wearing me. I'm putting it right in my crib.
Speaker 1: So you know, Leo, please, really you're gonna go, You're
Speaker 1: gonna go. I'm gonna keep my nephew out. But Leo
Speaker 1: told me. One day I went to Leo's house, right,
Speaker 1: and he gave me the biggest lesson in hip hop ever.
Speaker 1: He said to me he had moved to Park right
Speaker 1: ninety some ship uptown right whatever. Right. It was a
Speaker 1: twenty million our house and he said, do you like
Speaker 1: my house? I really didn't like it, but I had
Speaker 1: to say, yes, it's Leo Combs, It's Leo with it.
Speaker 1: You know what? He told me this? This, this taught
Speaker 1: me hip hop in two sentences. He said do you
Speaker 1: like this house? I said yes. He said, make sure
Speaker 1: you had enough you next year so I can invite
Speaker 1: you again. WHOA. At first I wanted to snuffle because
Speaker 1: I'm like, what, that's the most dispectful shaw. You could
Speaker 1: have a tell somebody. He basically told me, you're only
Speaker 1: here because you're right now. That was real though, So
Speaker 1: if you're not hot next year, just remember this house
Speaker 1: because you won't be bad. Whoa. That's ill. But it
Speaker 1: taught me something so valuable that never never never appreciate
Speaker 1: your position, because your position can be taken. Another thing
Speaker 1: is Miami Weather taught me to say about m I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I know I'm going all over the place, but right no,
Speaker 1: one day, I'm sitting on my balcony because it's not
Speaker 1: a terrorist. When you get a little money, it's called balcony.
Speaker 1: So I'm sitting on my balcony, right. I wrote three blunts,
Speaker 1: all right, and I went upstairs to take a peek.
Speaker 1: Not a ship, but for some reason, I went upstairs
Speaker 1: and I had the ship all right, and it rained,
Speaker 1: meaning the three blunts I just rolled they all and
Speaker 1: it taught me a valuable lesson. Don't ever appreciate your position,
Speaker 1: do your position, but then get the funk out of there.
Speaker 1: And I understood that after Leo told me, and is
Speaker 1: this music industry? Is it really that bad? All? Am
Speaker 1: I overdoing some stories that I think about? No, I
Speaker 1: don't think you're overdoing it. I the your perception, like
Speaker 1: what it was to be a B boy hip hop,
Speaker 1: just to be a doping c and to be the best,
Speaker 1: And then in doing that you don't realize until you
Speaker 1: start running into the trouble. Shoot, So you got to
Speaker 1: take the burden with the success. Okay. So in the beginning,
Speaker 1: me and Eric just wanted to be dope strictly business
Speaker 1: unfinished business. But then as you become the best, and
Speaker 1: you know, you got the haters before they was haters,
Speaker 1: So then you get songs like so what you're saying?
Speaker 1: So what you're saying? Okay, but no, that's normal. You'd
Speaker 1: be trying to get your craft off and you just
Speaker 1: be dealing with a lot of let's take it there.
Speaker 1: You know what you're saying, who is your talking about?
Speaker 1: The people who thought we wasn't gonna make it back.
Speaker 1: Everybody wasn't going to get past the right okaycause the
Speaker 1: sophomore jenks for people that don't know that's their second album, correct,
Speaker 1: because they always say rappers falling off after their second album. Right,
Speaker 1: take us through there. We came first of all, sitting
Speaker 1: on the bends in the Iraq because you guys were
Speaker 1: gold the first album first. I think me and he
Speaker 1: probably went platinum or that. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So no, not now, now you're going back in the
Speaker 1: studio and you you are you aware? Shoo? Yeah? No,
Speaker 1: first we first we dropped, totally dropped, strictly business, went
Speaker 1: on the Run's House tour, came off the road or
Speaker 1: amped up, but it was it was It was a
Speaker 1: talk Runs's House with house reality. There was Runs House
Speaker 1: everything about hip hop. I offended myself. It was a
Speaker 1: Rugs house, TPMD Public and me JAPND the sometimes says
Speaker 1: the sonic opened up some goddamn it. What's my man name?
Speaker 1: What's his name? D Daddy? The original? But getting you
Speaker 1: so yeah, So we came off the road or hype
Speaker 1: and went in the studio and you say you hype
Speaker 1: was was you guys like gas like? I think gas
Speaker 1: was an understatement. I'm gonna be honest, if I wouldn't
Speaker 1: went on tour with no hold. We didn't have no
Speaker 1: money for a tour bus run. DMC let us ride
Speaker 1: on their tour bus for free, right, So we woke
Speaker 1: up on the got up and we see the shell
Speaker 1: tolls right there, brand new brand and an unlimited supply
Speaker 1: of Adidas anything you want and this ship and I
Speaker 1: mean not like one, two or three pass right, there
Speaker 1: were stadium, stadium everything. We went through two or three
Speaker 1: nights in one and then dreaded. Yeah, but thinking about
Speaker 1: that album. Yeah, so we went in there. We came
Speaker 1: off the road run of Jinks, so more Jinks went
Speaker 1: in the studio back to Charlie Murrauders and nothing. I
Speaker 1: just was sitting there, nothing, no lyrics, no music, no
Speaker 1: nonk just was nothing. Was siding right, just wet was
Speaker 1: he thinking about? We know if we just know we
Speaker 1: just got to come off and it was gonna happen
Speaker 1: and we ended up looking like Cooper Good and society
Speaker 1: was swinging at the end, so we had to step
Speaker 1: yeah exactly, you know, and then we adjusted. Then we
Speaker 1: went there. Veric went back in there then, so what
Speaker 1: you're saying that whatever, because it was on the scenes
Speaker 1: and um, the DJ was playing jazz b so the
Speaker 1: soul and whatever, and he was playing the a mixed
Speaker 1: version was just to beat whatever. So I went up
Speaker 1: there and got the record from him and bring it
Speaker 1: home on the DJ plate. So we we had that
Speaker 1: and that wade off the dance floor like yo, holdie,
Speaker 1: let me get that, and we made so what you're saying,
Speaker 1: and after that started taking off what you're saying, and
Speaker 1: then they then the big payback and the demo came
Speaker 1: riding high. Yeah, yo ya yo, we built our destiny.
Speaker 1: We actually built the sixth We built the cold building
Speaker 1: that called sixty eight command kid, contract you build it's
Speaker 1: not the record that before. Yo. We took a three
Speaker 1: fifty engine out of seven before and put it in
Speaker 1: the city. And say that again, you took a sim
Speaker 1: We took a sixty eight come out, took the engine
Speaker 1: out of a seventy four and over fifty four barrel
Speaker 1: carp put it in the sixties. We used to be
Speaker 1: drag racing all that other stuff. We stripped down. The
Speaker 1: top had like whatever the top one, so we haven't
Speaker 1: had to take the binal off and furious early domin
Speaker 1: that's the wall pass almost died on the most like
Speaker 1: the first let's get to the story. What happened. What happened?
Speaker 1: Tell us yall was in just moving the motorcycon Yeah,
Speaker 1: we know, we used to be wilding. Yeah, so you know,
Speaker 1: long story short, somebody wasn't paying attention drift over the
Speaker 1: yellow lines and it was trying to brace for impact
Speaker 1: and proud of the star football playing so he playing football,
Speaker 1: quarterback and kicker. You know, that's why the demo was
Speaker 1: taking long because probably was going to school playing ball
Speaker 1: and I was here waiting on it. So eighty five
Speaker 1: we gotta came out. You know. No, there's more to
Speaker 1: that though, because we used to have to communicate them
Speaker 1: everything about y'all. You're disappointed me that I die because Paris, Paris,
Speaker 1: my first time driving. He almost up, so I dropping
Speaker 1: to drop the stick. So I'm going stopping the new
Speaker 1: mag to the section where chicken funk up. I went
Speaker 1: right through it. The question wasn't something didn't work right?
Speaker 1: That was we wouldn't want to under sanction crazy, But
Speaker 1: that all led to businesses do everything about apm B.
Speaker 1: I'm mad that y'all fucking me out. Like my history.
Speaker 1: I'm going back and I'm talking to my history later
Speaker 1: and me and gotta show you my history book. I
Speaker 1: gotta shot on my history y'all. Listen, my nigga, you
Speaker 1: ain't telling me about the crash. All this stuff may
Speaker 1: apm D crazy, especially with the We came out late
Speaker 1: eighty eight. So we watched rock Kim Kane late with
Speaker 1: cranmem understands j He said he was still spending money
Speaker 1: for eight people see him and see him. People sack
Speaker 1: this person's sowing. So like, how y'all, how did these
Speaker 1: people influence y'all? Because they're the same error So yeah,
Speaker 1: they were, but they was out before us before came.
Speaker 1: So I heard that. We got to listen to Chris
Speaker 1: Rob came before that, so we had to come. Everybody
Speaker 1: else out there was dangerous because he was to sleep.
Speaker 1: I mean like because they all came out that state
Speaker 1: time and business fum Brent, which I used to see
Speaker 1: him at the Pancake House with big on top. He
Speaker 1: used to panc house. He just mean one time in
Speaker 1: pancake House at the pan business team man with truck jewels. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like just nothing you told me he ya just be
Speaker 1: making a demo yalla, Yeah, yo, listen, man, we scribed
Speaker 1: very bad. This was at the park House. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: sitting there business trying to give us the beat too.
Speaker 1: Ain't don't have stepping back? Yeah, yeah, I didn't have
Speaker 1: antal hashta we did we have knes ain't't have? He said,
Speaker 1: now that's okay, we went and made this. My thing
Speaker 1: comes to me. Yeah, all right, you matched. I was
Speaker 1: about to go ask you I want to step Kim
Speaker 1: King wasn't about to step it to him? Yeah that
Speaker 1: was you need that you liked after that? It's my
Speaker 1: thing because yeah, yeah, right, you know what I think
Speaker 1: of I think I saw the Weeding Hall. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: God damn, I think I saw weed and Hall him
Speaker 1: at that time. But I'm sorry. What year was that?
Speaker 1: Seven November? I came out eight eight album drop, And
Speaker 1: now I wanted to describe eighty eight because I'm like
Speaker 1: it that like my favorite. Well the only reason why
Speaker 1: the nineties. Of course it is not like it, but
Speaker 1: eighty eight was said every came out. Yeah, I'm asking right,
Speaker 1: because my favorite. Like when I was thinking of my
Speaker 1: favorite era hip hop that I lived in, it has
Speaker 1: to be ninety of course, but eighty eight was what
Speaker 1: made my ninety eight ship. I want to actually describe.
Speaker 1: I want to as a fan, I want to. I
Speaker 1: want you to tell us that year, because what was it?
Speaker 1: It was putting, it was it was now nice and small,
Speaker 1: special Lass, special Lass short, n W A like MC likes.
Speaker 1: You had audio at n W eight after they came
Speaker 1: saying yeah, yeah, anybody came the same year. Because I
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Speaker 1: like you know, Big Daddy came after the show. He
Speaker 1: had to he had to slip us with the don parison.
Speaker 1: We wasn't advanced like yeah, okay, so we knew we
Speaker 1: had to step it got off road like no, you
Speaker 1: know to tell when we've done the whole town the doon. Yo.
Speaker 1: He was really there already and still he's only star
Speaker 1: ready yea, but he knew it. Kin knew when he
Speaker 1: was he doing. Yeah, he's talking Donna already here. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: right down he's talking about that makes a Big Dady came.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's true, but it's just ripping
Speaker 1: the room. She said, she makes He says, because you
Speaker 1: know what, but that year, if it wasn't for that year,
Speaker 1: I don't think I could ever appreciate my year, like
Speaker 1: because my success has always been been a sweet meaning.
Speaker 1: We came out n seven and my partner, who is
Speaker 1: my best friend, he went to jail, ye and that
Speaker 1: impact Tony was tell why we didn't understand was the
Speaker 1: old nigger ship right there? He said it shook New
Speaker 1: York way up right, like it was really bad ship.
Speaker 1: You know what's supposed to be on the remix to
Speaker 1: to you? And why Biggie Small so crazy? There's a
Speaker 1: crazy ship. You know. When I watched Biggs interview, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm excuse me, I watched Big movie, right,
Speaker 1: And if you were member when he was making these
Speaker 1: last phone calls, that ship made me cry because he
Speaker 1: called me and he said, he said, Yo, I'm jumping
Speaker 1: on this record. But back then, you know, we had bootlegs.
Speaker 1: So when he played me the record, I knew that
Speaker 1: it wasn't coming. I didn't know what it wasn't that,
Speaker 1: So I'm saying, how you get this? And I've gotten
Speaker 1: nasen my Rix worked for a Bad Boys who did
Speaker 1: the record. He just randomly played it for him and
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, these the new niggas coming around
Speaker 1: from Queens and he heard it, but he went to
Speaker 1: l A and he he must have heard it again
Speaker 1: and he called the nigga wanted to sign Kapom. I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie. I thought I thought it was over.
Speaker 1: He was not in until Tim Noory at this time,
Speaker 1: like we made him outside of Roy seven and Kapoem
Speaker 1: keep the rhyme, and he was like, I'm I'm I'm
Speaker 1: signing you. And I was like, I feel like we parted,
Speaker 1: but I was so scared. It's Biggie Smooth also scared.
Speaker 1: And but bring it back is the era if I,
Speaker 1: if I didn't eight didn't happen as me as a
Speaker 1: fan night wouldn't be as important. So yeah, I came
Speaker 1: out with the toughest of the topic, like how was
Speaker 1: those tours back then? Like how was it? Like I
Speaker 1: get your perfect example, but this one too, because you
Speaker 1: asked the question. I'm just gonna say it. We all
Speaker 1: are rush Big Daddy Kane is Tan House down with
Speaker 1: the l COJ tour EPD Tan House down too. So
Speaker 1: me and part Pills that we tanned House down enough
Speaker 1: that we should go on after you. Yeah, we should
Speaker 1: go in after King. Yeah, you know it was Detroit
Speaker 1: was crazy back then. Was it was that heavy D two.
Speaker 1: I tell you how big big so Leo Coleman has
Speaker 1: Rushman because Kane wasn't Russia, Okay, so he made the
Speaker 1: cold because being Pattis said, you know, so we had
Speaker 1: cal Blanche over then over that position because the French
Speaker 1: management the next day, Kane comes out with a hot
Speaker 1: tub speedos the stage. He said, ladies, I got three
Speaker 1: things to tell you, m m m m. And the
Speaker 1: paint stopped coming off the ceiling and the life pictures
Speaker 1: stop coming off the stadiums. We said, yo yo, leo yo.
Speaker 1: To change the order that night, I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you one thing, right, I will tell
Speaker 1: you one thing when one night I'm gonna roll with Cane.
Speaker 1: You right at had you know, put it in the mouth.
Speaker 1: But the problem was nobody never saw the video, so
Speaker 1: everybody like threw him to the back, meaning they was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you gotta go on first. But I got a real
Speaker 1: stage performance, Like he's like busting rounds without the records,
Speaker 1: go out to hit crickets to go with it. But
Speaker 1: he's gonna kill you on stage, and you're gonna have
Speaker 1: a bit put up a dana in their mouth and
Speaker 1: all that. Like anything, they're gonna dance. They got scooped.
Speaker 1: They got he had to fake scoop and scrap. He
Speaker 1: didn't have Kane scooping scrap. What was the nigga's name, Well,
Speaker 1: you know he had dance surrept e book showtime and look.
Speaker 1: So one day I forget what artists it was, but
Speaker 1: they was like, yo ocummally gotta come on first. So
Speaker 1: I came and grabbed me l A l A and
Speaker 1: till on WI that's it. I said, I had nothing else.
Speaker 1: He said, it's nothing else, nothing else, so ot combs
Speaker 1: and I kid you not. He had twelve minutes. He
Speaker 1: did the best twelve minutes I've ever seen in life.
Speaker 1: And then people said, I can close from that one.
Speaker 1: But but that's how it is. Sometimes people just come
Speaker 1: out there. What you're doing? Check band. I'm sorry, I'm interrupting.
Speaker 1: I'm scheming. I got my first contract itself. This is
Speaker 1: classic moment. No, we got the classic. E. P and
Speaker 1: D y'are my favorite artist in sparfit Listen. I've been
Speaker 1: backing with yall since nineteen ninety. Listen. I've been Let's basically,
Speaker 1: let's been locked up together. My next favorite group, B's
Speaker 1: Capona Noriega. I'll never followed nobody else after that. I
Speaker 1: was just stuck there. So this is a real classic
Speaker 1: moment for me. You got a contract, ye, I got
Speaker 1: my contract. Damn, I got it. I got it. I
Speaker 1: learned about the side, got me and Mike's gonna make
Speaker 1: a movie the next time. I'm here to Tuesday. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm guys coming to you. Yeah, what do you want
Speaker 1: to know? What's got our party? That's why are you
Speaker 1: hanging out? Hanging out? Yeah, yeah, we're gonna get him tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, I'm bringing home. I'm bringing dr TC
Speaker 1: for you. I'm hating you. I they call me okay
Speaker 1: making make it connect? So what what? What? What is
Speaker 1: your favorite? APM B back you got the chill? You
Speaker 1: got's the check? Yeah? Yeah, favorite? Yeah yeah, And that's
Speaker 1: a big song because a lot of people thought we
Speaker 1: were on the West coast because of that, that West
Speaker 1: Coast Phil but they thought apps from West coast period.
Speaker 1: All the sounds weak because why anybody was doing Jane Brown.
Speaker 1: We were saying record like like l A was doing,
Speaker 1: like there was a gang banging too. Like we do
Speaker 1: a show in l A. We'll be the every two
Speaker 1: weeks and we at this get your ringing. They'd be
Speaker 1: helicopters and the time your customer hit boo fight start yo.
Speaker 1: Our shows used to be so wild in l A
Speaker 1: and Texas that they we used to have to do
Speaker 1: you guys to chill about four or five times tonight,
Speaker 1: right because the gunshots matter of fact is they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: start that all was, Yeah, they'd be so close to
Speaker 1: the state. The big payback then about the big payback? Yo,
Speaker 1: we shot that in uh West Coast. We just basically
Speaker 1: wanted to do something different, so we reached Agett out
Speaker 1: to Easy Easy. He hooked it up where Dr dre
Speaker 1: icequ them could come out show with some love and
Speaker 1: we just wanted to show the camaraderie with the I
Speaker 1: feel like, I feel like you should explain that more
Speaker 1: because a lot of us, a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of the young people, they just see uh straight out
Speaker 1: of Compton yea, and they actually think easy he's a
Speaker 1: dog skinned person, right. I mean it wasn't Darsky life,
Speaker 1: but but in the movie. But let's pick up that
Speaker 1: actor because that actor killed it so much that I
Speaker 1: thought he was like So I want you to describe that, like,
Speaker 1: you know, just you know, the West Coast connection, because
Speaker 1: a lot of people, you know what they think, they
Speaker 1: think that the East Coast West Coast beef was real
Speaker 1: when in the all actuality that that means some of
Speaker 1: our number one markets, as New York Loves us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what did you so you know what I mean how
Speaker 1: big he was in California. You just what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like l A l A after l A l A.
Speaker 1: Our records was going number one in l A. But
Speaker 1: we was shocked because they're like, yeah, because it was
Speaker 1: already a problem. But we're not not with the actual
Speaker 1: people them, but with us. You know, Eric Wright working
Speaker 1: with n W. Way, he was kind of doing the
Speaker 1: same anything we were doing on the East coast. So
Speaker 1: there was Michelle A, there was the d O C.
Speaker 1: They were signed to Atlantic Records. I had K Solo
Speaker 1: on Atlantic Records and through there. The communication was there
Speaker 1: once we came through on the second album, like hey,
Speaker 1: we want to do something different, the big payback. We
Speaker 1: got respect for y'all, You've got respect for us. And
Speaker 1: they showed up and they came to the Beverly Hill
Speaker 1: gun Range with their own weapons. The girls. He was
Speaker 1: really out there was mad ship. You see that, you
Speaker 1: take apart, serious about serious about range was shot like yo,
Speaker 1: they didn't even yet, they didn't even need their weapons
Speaker 1: need yep. So now you just said you just said
Speaker 1: case solo, right, Yeah, the case solo was your artists
Speaker 1: and then red Man was your arts and at one
Speaker 1: point we thought that they were the same person, like
Speaker 1: like Humpy Hump. At one point we thought they was
Speaker 1: the same person. And then it was out like they
Speaker 1: had problems because they both had afros wild Yeah, uh no,
Speaker 1: I'm correct, But did they ever have problems? We have
Speaker 1: problems later on, but he would guest squad and he
Speaker 1: was hit squad. Yeah yeah, but I had to do
Speaker 1: with it that. That was just so talking at one time. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know, not to give him prop still, but again
Speaker 1: he was just like talking. But I mean again, everything
Speaker 1: is done now. But there wasn't no between the crews.
Speaker 1: It was just him, him and him talking about what
Speaker 1: did he Oh he said something about y'all. Yeah, about
Speaker 1: this about Reggie and me and death at one point,
Speaker 1: yeah he did. Yeah, okay, so yeah he signs over
Speaker 1: there yea, what the death Roma and its producer Sam
Speaker 1: Snead That was someone's producer too, along with Paris that
Speaker 1: went to death Row too. So now Keith Burby's also y'all.
Speaker 1: This more y'all was together. He was signed to me.
Speaker 1: So how did you Let's let's describe that. When did
Speaker 1: you first meet Keith Murray. Murray his name was Keepy
Speaker 1: Keith right, and I saw a tape of him battling
Speaker 1: Big Daddy Kane at a dined up for Kane's birthday.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Wait a minute, right, he said a tape.
Speaker 1: You didn't say, you big Yes, yes, okay, I have it.
Speaker 1: You have it I haven't on DVD. Keith Murray battle
Speaker 1: Kaney Kane and a diner. Yes, what year was this?
Speaker 1: He said? He and he said, he said you have
Speaker 1: to take the skills A little boy who said that
Speaker 1: to who? Kane said to the Murray? And I feel
Speaker 1: like because I feel like keep Murray spoke with Dust
Speaker 1: his old likes nothing that he was a kid. He
Speaker 1: was like fifteen years old. Battle Cane. Now what Kane
Speaker 1: is this? It's first Kane, brand new, It's the hot
Speaker 1: Kane right, the game Kane Kane was his birthday, this
Speaker 1: is since he born. Was Kane's family too. That was
Speaker 1: also Keith Murray's uncle, so they was in Brooklyn. They
Speaker 1: was family. It happened to be going to Dinah for
Speaker 1: Kane's birthday. After after after a show that happened in Manhattan,
Speaker 1: and Murray happened to be with with his was his uncle.
Speaker 1: And then he said keeping on the rap, So Keith
Speaker 1: not scared when that came kind of and then Kane
Speaker 1: just you know, got loose because no, no he didn't.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't even like like that though. He just said, like,
Speaker 1: you know, came looked at him like he was you know,
Speaker 1: you know that's that's cute. So now I asked him earlier.
Speaker 1: Now I gotta ask you, what are you listening to? Now?
Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm listening to a little bit of everything.
Speaker 1: You know, I stick to the to our generation, the
Speaker 1: legends and stuff like that. You know, it's definitely what
Speaker 1: is the panther and animal that kills? I'm like the
Speaker 1: show for blood coming out the guilts. Yo. We was
Speaker 1: Sucking Gold Create a Go, Yeah, I can remember that.
Speaker 1: Was that the cassette tape? Right? Was that? What album
Speaker 1: is that? That was eighties six eight seven No. Eighty six? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: before this is my thing a customer Gold co Creative
Speaker 1: like we used to study that. We studied that, you understand,
Speaker 1: remember we said it eighth grade. We was driving to
Speaker 1: the Lancey Street to pick up Sucking Season. It's like
Speaker 1: that because I used to d Jack and I gotta
Speaker 1: get back to y'all making a car too, because that
Speaker 1: was crazy. Y'all made a car, build the car, still
Speaker 1: got the cars listened to my dad really cover Definitely
Speaker 1: Yeah that that's great. So so you do you do you?
Speaker 1: Is there anybody from the new generation you actually do
Speaker 1: funk with? Might be bad? Drew Kendrew's album Yeah, like Yo,
Speaker 1: sit Down, Humble, sit down, a young cat like that
Speaker 1: already that advanced to do a single like that, sit
Speaker 1: down and you know what the crazy shi it is.
Speaker 1: It's musical though the album like you know, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, you know. The thing about Dre is like
Speaker 1: if you listen to the content album, uh, it might
Speaker 1: not be as lyrically impactful, but if you listen to
Speaker 1: it a music at that point, it's still phenomenal. It's
Speaker 1: that sonically you're saying, definitely here for two of you, right,
Speaker 1: because if you're trying to hear the chronic, you're you're not, No,
Speaker 1: it's not the chronic. It ain't that Like the sounding
Speaker 1: of the music sounds on it like that. That's why
Speaker 1: everybody that was there, because I feel like producers make
Speaker 1: better music than like regular artists. Like if you're a producer, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely because the track comes first and back in the
Speaker 1: track to let me start running. And that's how we
Speaker 1: did most of our music because it beat that we
Speaker 1: picked for y'all. Like because right now we have Capona,
Speaker 1: Noriega Mob, Deep Um m O P Salt and pepper
Speaker 1: Um Black Star hopefully hopefully put us earlier because I
Speaker 1: feeling good. No duels is coming coming in front of
Speaker 1: me right now. Nation you're casting me that, my sister,
Speaker 1: you're just gonna be but you're just gonna be in
Speaker 1: in a category with pepperm that we're only working with
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Speaker 1: also hating because I felt like I should have coming
Speaker 1: with that. That's why I want to say have no
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Speaker 1: we're sitting there, like I wanted to make sure saying
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Speaker 1: we're just doing that, you know what doing But so
Speaker 1: you know, nor we can't leave out a a boogie
Speaker 1: and Davies. But I also like that for zombies too.
Speaker 1: That's another you know, I've changed a lot of great
Speaker 1: things about Flat for zob I haven't been able to
Speaker 1: get into the stiff. Yeah, I haven't had time, but
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Speaker 1: myself in the position where I changed. Could you can
Speaker 1: win doing hip hop? I told you you have to
Speaker 1: conform to this. You don't gotta do this. People are
Speaker 1: looking for what you do. Exactly. Do what you're doing.
Speaker 1: You will win. And that's why I'll tell you something.
Speaker 1: That's why, Like I was laid on Kadgy album, this
Speaker 1: album is me too. I was late, right, so I
Speaker 1: kept looking at Twitter and people can I'm telling me,
Speaker 1: how dope it is? So like like an analyst, I
Speaker 1: downloaded it want to him and I just my balcony,
Speaker 1: my son. I was in my balcony. I was in
Speaker 1: my balcony and I listened to and to tell you
Speaker 1: the truth, you know, because I'm an artist first, you
Speaker 1: always kind of like listen to your music to say
Speaker 1: fuck you, like not not not in a bad way,
Speaker 1: but I listened to it and be like, I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm better. Leo Cohmen said, all arts and assholes.
Speaker 1: He's right, is right, I don't think I'm like that,
Speaker 1: you assholes straight now start. I wanted to hate and
Speaker 1: not a bone hate, no, because you know why. I
Speaker 1: just I just want to compare myself to every new artist.
Speaker 1: I want to be like, Yo, I could, I could
Speaker 1: beat you. But when I listened to that, but we
Speaker 1: feel that way, that was like, yeah, we do, you
Speaker 1: feel that too, But but there's nobody to go against.
Speaker 1: You can't compare yourself to that. No, but when I'm rhyming,
Speaker 1: but when I'm not preju them but the majority. Right.
Speaker 1: But when I heard this album, I'm not gonna lie
Speaker 1: to you, it made me remember how much I loved
Speaker 1: hip hop. It made me remember how much I loved
Speaker 1: you guys. It made me remember how much I loved
Speaker 1: anas album madn't even remember how much would be no
Speaker 1: time like thats album like like it kind of like
Speaker 1: no time like that. Nineties will never we well, it's
Speaker 1: sad to say we will never experience nothing like that.
Speaker 1: When every group had their own identity, nobody had to
Speaker 1: rund like nobody, everybody had their own sound and we
Speaker 1: all won. How do you have to do that? You know,
Speaker 1: don't want now It's totally the opposite. Everybody sounds the same,
Speaker 1: you know, the crazy big you know you got the
Speaker 1: other day, I looked at you looked at somebody's instagram, right,
Speaker 1: and the guys on the instagram, and he sounds just
Speaker 1: like future right. But the guy says, these other rappers
Speaker 1: want to copy me, like nigga, you comy here right
Speaker 1: right right, So I'm just like anybody else coming in.
Speaker 1: But that's how crazy it is that nobody checks it.
Speaker 1: Nobody says yo back then, like you said, biting was bad,
Speaker 1: like yo, Me and Capone went all out not to
Speaker 1: be compared to Mam d Like you don't understand, like
Speaker 1: when we came out and we our first record was
Speaker 1: l A l A and he was on the same
Speaker 1: record with Mam Dight, so they automatically that's the fake
Speaker 1: version of Mom Deep. That's what I run the mom
Speaker 1: Deep mom me and this nigga. We did everything in
Speaker 1: our nature to not be compared to them, nigga. So
Speaker 1: that's why we did That's why we did that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we just wanted to get away from that. But the
Speaker 1: thing is nowadays, if they say you sound like that guy,
Speaker 1: it's actually things because never be you listen, no that's
Speaker 1: where the God tell me all the time. My sister
Speaker 1: called me Michael Jackson at the crib not because of that,
Speaker 1: because no matter what you do, young kid, you will
Speaker 1: never be me. That's right. This is thirty years. You
Speaker 1: didn't even did three yet after you finished, how can
Speaker 1: you eat after this? I'm still toring. How are you
Speaker 1: gonna eat? I'm just saying I want to realize if
Speaker 1: I can be there and see, how are you eating?
Speaker 1: Because nobody's coming to watch you in ten years, So
Speaker 1: how are you gonna eat? If you didn't say, then
Speaker 1: you want to disrespect me, I'm feel sorry for you
Speaker 1: because you will never be me. You will never sell
Speaker 1: these records, you'll never have number one albums, You'll never
Speaker 1: be torn, You'll never be in these arenas. To do
Speaker 1: Summer Jam, you need eighteen a hundred new people them
Speaker 1: you won't pack it. And we got if any one
Speaker 1: of us going to it was CNN, NAS, EPM, D,
Speaker 1: whatever and two more other groups, we can pack forty
Speaker 1: one thousand when nobody radio. Usually I can give people
Speaker 1: drunk to talk like talking, and you're just so long,
Speaker 1: you're so drunk. I'm gonna trying to get you now,
Speaker 1: because again, they gotta just right who you are. Don't
Speaker 1: let nobody take this from you. Me and Paris are humble, too,
Speaker 1: humble to a fault. Sometimes I'm like, let the niggas
Speaker 1: ain't us. Look at that they over they would never
Speaker 1: be us, and look at they say, Oh that's hip hop.
Speaker 1: That's why we was like the crossover. But that's why,
Speaker 1: that's why I drink camps. We won't be humble. For
Speaker 1: you were right, We're gonna we're gonna represent a P
Speaker 1: M D. Not only tonight, We're gonna represent apn D
Speaker 1: every f Look how you won. Nobody was expecting YouTube
Speaker 1: in they can't win with this. They know people on there,
Speaker 1: we're watching these old you can talk about no nothing,
Speaker 1: none of that. You know what I love about this show,
Speaker 1: Like a lot of times we listened to it while
Speaker 1: we're traveling and you get to hear the stories that
Speaker 1: you didn't know exact know about Black Time. Keep mry.
Speaker 1: I'm Rickith like like kiss, we're saying, when was I
Speaker 1: don't know about it? Any little brothers? For ye remember
Speaker 1: in Philly, Snoop said understood, like, yoh, shoot, we saw
Speaker 1: a P and D B one. We're like oh, should
Speaker 1: we made it now? I mean we're on the video,
Speaker 1: the P and D. Like the stories that people give
Speaker 1: y'all from on this show, like the ship that we learned.
Speaker 1: I know something, you can bet what comes out when
Speaker 1: that's what you know what it is. We gotta give
Speaker 1: our artists they flowers when they can smell them, give
Speaker 1: them their trees when they lory. Stop right now, please stop. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Stranger in Detroit came to my room and told me
Speaker 1: the same ship. Do not let nobody, don't compone, let
Speaker 1: them represent you and congratulate you. Why you living? That's right.
Speaker 1: Don't let nobody give you pops when you're dead you
Speaker 1: supposed to get. And that's and that's the thing. That's
Speaker 1: the thing is, I'm glad you don't seen I've seen.
Speaker 1: I seen our culture suffers from that. I've seen that
Speaker 1: every other culture. Like I said, I went to this
Speaker 1: account office and the accounts you know all you know
Speaker 1: older rock bands. I was the only black guy there,
Speaker 1: but they they was collecting checks and they was doing that,
Speaker 1: and I'm like damn, and I'm like, yo, why why
Speaker 1: we don't do that? In like why we like it
Speaker 1: doesn't cost me nothing to tell you. I let you
Speaker 1: know right, no doubt. It don't cost me nothing, don't
Speaker 1: cost me nothing to say. Every time I see Eric
Speaker 1: Sherman to me and him to be like like, you
Speaker 1: know we are playing around here, and but you know
Speaker 1: he shows me respect, I respect. Why why don't we
Speaker 1: do that in public? I don't know. I'm not saying us.
Speaker 1: I'm saying generally, but most people won't. They don't want
Speaker 1: to do that. I don't want to say that. If
Speaker 1: I grew up listening to you and if you made
Speaker 1: what component Noriega is, I can't tell you that to you,
Speaker 1: no question, and I gotta say, that's why we did
Speaker 1: this component Noriega. We tried to be epm so I
Speaker 1: talked about to his face. I'm like, yo, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: as a man, I tell run can see today face.
Speaker 1: I let them people know today faces. I don't care
Speaker 1: who it is. If you influence me, I'm giving this
Speaker 1: to you. But people be like, yo, I know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but that but that's only us. I'm not
Speaker 1: sweating him. I'm not joking that. I think that's awesome.
Speaker 1: The thing about it is me and Compon be the
Speaker 1: fakest people in the world. If we ain't say we
Speaker 1: was influenced by you, right, if we I me and
Speaker 1: would be the corniest dudes in the world. We say, Yo,
Speaker 1: you know he was trying to be epm like we were.
Speaker 1: But that doesn't make us bad bad because we were
Speaker 1: following R D MC. I mean we eight for y'all.
Speaker 1: It's rock boxing MCS for us, and we relately eight three.
Speaker 1: It's a little sun of be minds for the rock
Speaker 1: another shot. But wasn't that saying about today's come on?
Speaker 1: Obviously there wasn't the leaders for them. Yo. I noticed
Speaker 1: my glass is the biggest in there. I watch, I watched,
Speaker 1: we say that too. We're going back to it too.
Speaker 1: If we would have said something when they got that far,
Speaker 1: we didn't say anything because we left stuff to get
Speaker 1: out of hand and it got like this. So I
Speaker 1: would say that our generation dropped the ball, strop the ball.
Speaker 1: But we're starting to work. It was parented, even the
Speaker 1: parenting that like us as not us as parents, but
Speaker 1: the parents too. Our parents was the last parents that
Speaker 1: parented children too. And I don't like to switch the
Speaker 1: Do you know what somebody tell me the other day,
Speaker 1: it's that um and I agree with them. But they
Speaker 1: said to me, you said you don't like this new
Speaker 1: generation of hip hop. I think it's okay. They said,
Speaker 1: what is your fault? Yeah, and they said, because you
Speaker 1: didn't say nothing right. And I said, it's a similar
Speaker 1: to what my song said earlier. And I said, what
Speaker 1: they said, you didn't. You didn't say nothing like when
Speaker 1: you knew it was bullshit happening. You never said nothing right.
Speaker 1: You just sat nobody said, and that's what we do,
Speaker 1: what it to ourselves. And then by time we did
Speaker 1: really because because you know what a mile out we
Speaker 1: actually it was actually about lyrics when we just came out,
Speaker 1: I was actually about beats. Right now, it's about melody.
Speaker 1: If you have a great melody, they can do you.
Speaker 1: But if you have a great melody, I sing along melody. Everybody,
Speaker 1: don't forget our error. We had to go to power
Speaker 1: Play studio. We had a Queen's gone on the power point.
Speaker 1: I tried. I was there for us the power point.
Speaker 1: We our sounds. What you say It came with the play.
Speaker 1: We used the caress when you stop for sleeping bag Yo,
Speaker 1: paul Us out them over Koreo. The little came. The
Speaker 1: Internet was the name, I was dead. You don't have
Speaker 1: to wait and Paul pulling do y'all me pulling before y'all,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was so broken, was so wrong,
Speaker 1: Like when the Niggers told me to come, I was like,
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to get there. But I just like, yo,
Speaker 1: I'm getting there. But I was broken. But me and
Speaker 1: Prods got signed for fifty hundred hours our first contract.
Speaker 1: Yeah you need us using came with loading hours. Okay,
Speaker 1: hold on, keep keep picking up this, mam, bes mam
Speaker 1: forever you We need you on drink doing it right now,
Speaker 1: Like you know what the crazy thing is a lot
Speaker 1: of people don't know that that's what I get my
Speaker 1: humor from. My humor comes from Bismobu. Mark was the
Speaker 1: first person that made me listen to a record and
Speaker 1: then laugh when he said I'm gonna put you know,
Speaker 1: pick a book and put it on the basketball and
Speaker 1: passed like damn. Because I visualized that. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a family. And so a lot of people asked
Speaker 1: me and I say, my humor comes from bis mom.
Speaker 1: But again these people don't know who bis Macky is,
Speaker 1: so they stand back it. But the kids know from
Speaker 1: your guys now little kids. Yeah, yeah, but that's where
Speaker 1: it came from. That was like the first like comedic
Speaker 1: rapper and since then it hasn't been one. Right now,
Speaker 1: I'm taking over that but a ship, but I'm taking
Speaker 1: over it from a media standpoint. And at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, I can never forget my forefathers, Like
Speaker 1: he's gonna be gonna be gonna He had never heard that,
Speaker 1: but never to this day, this mark is still the
Speaker 1: same way he wasn't with the grand and you know,
Speaker 1: on the same page. You know, you had a big shots.
Speaker 1: You look, I've been following a long gun. To listen,
Speaker 1: I'm listening. I'm gonna tell you nigga song Um, I
Speaker 1: heard this nigga say, I knew a girl named Kenya
Speaker 1: from West Virginia. Oh bo, I would I like to
Speaker 1: stick something in you? I was a rapper from that moment.
Speaker 1: I did not understand from you. You made me grant mad.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna be honest with Wow. When I heard that,
Speaker 1: he knows it, I said, it's just like seventeen millions.
Speaker 1: But but that ship right there, it was like I
Speaker 1: gotta wrap now, like I gotta do. I didn't know
Speaker 1: how I was gonna wrap. I didn't know how I
Speaker 1: was gonna make it. But but from that from those
Speaker 1: who brokeers right there. But let's get back to let's
Speaker 1: get back to ep MD. I was gonna say, arguably
Speaker 1: but probably the best two man group ever in life,
Speaker 1: in existence. I'm standing in front of both for y'all.
Speaker 1: I felt like one of y'all is gonna come. I
Speaker 1: felt like it was just one person. I was like, damn, wow,
Speaker 1: that's crazy up Like, but then, how is your brother?
Speaker 1: Was all on you? That's my man. You know what's
Speaker 1: his name? His name the Tiger Bone were missing some elements.
Speaker 1: That's okay, he said. He said, you gotta check out
Speaker 1: nor his show. What it's called Drink Chance. He says,
Speaker 1: the dopest ship ever. I mean here, we take like
Speaker 1: four hour rides. We listened to the music, hours into
Speaker 1: the hip hop and everything. To take the arts track.
Speaker 1: You're like, yo, I didn't know that you get this.
Speaker 1: It's like behind the music and that's and that's what
Speaker 1: it's because it's because you know why the thing is,
Speaker 1: we don't have an inside the NBA for hip hop.
Speaker 1: We don't have it. So when you look at Kenney Smith,
Speaker 1: who's from left Rack. By the way, I threw that
Speaker 1: in there, that was a shot. Ye. I watched Kenney Smith.
Speaker 1: I watched Charles Barkley, And even though I don't agree
Speaker 1: with Charles Barkley, it's like, you know what, you can't
Speaker 1: argue with him because he played the game. He actually
Speaker 1: played the game, so even and I don't even like
Speaker 1: funk with him, and I don't know, I don't sunk
Speaker 1: with his views at all, Like I don't funk with
Speaker 1: his views at all, But I can't say I don't
Speaker 1: funk with him right because he played the game at
Speaker 1: a high level and then he's giving back and his
Speaker 1: opinion should be his opinion, so we all sat back. Me,
Speaker 1: if it's that bad, where is our version of that?
Speaker 1: Why don't we have that? Why don't we have it?
Speaker 1: And I only to have that? Well, why don't we
Speaker 1: have people that want to show love back to the coulchure,
Speaker 1: like like I have no problems even talk about but
Speaker 1: I have no problems with telling you. I have no
Speaker 1: problem telling you if it wasn't for E. P m D.
Speaker 1: Then be a component arm right paying super homage like
Speaker 1: we pay homage to run see but in this generation,
Speaker 1: you would have people who use your music build their
Speaker 1: whole career, like when they freestyle and they walked past me,
Speaker 1: and yeah, like like that only makes you were How
Speaker 1: did y'all feel that? It was kinda like y'all know
Speaker 1: you like work, you like when people You're like, when
Speaker 1: people freestyle over your music. I don't okay people saying kills.
Speaker 1: Back in the day, when somebody used your music or
Speaker 1: said your rhyme, it was homage. It was homed. I
Speaker 1: seen they, dude, I kid you now. I walked to MTV, right,
Speaker 1: I want the MTV. The dude put out the freestyle
Speaker 1: that day of my music and walked right by me.
Speaker 1: And I looked at the nigger and I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: do you know you rombed up a band from TV.
Speaker 1: I want to shank you. I want to shiver that alone.
Speaker 1: But the fact is you walked right by me, right right.
Speaker 1: And the people from MTV was trying to tell him like, yeah,
Speaker 1: introduced me, and he didn't even know I was that
Speaker 1: like they introduced me. He was like, this is Norrie, alright, cool,
Speaker 1: give me that. I don't know. I don't und on
Speaker 1: my ship Like I was so mad, but I had
Speaker 1: to actually relax. Yeah, but I didn't want to relax.
Speaker 1: That's crazy And I'm like I was crazy, Like how
Speaker 1: can't you not You ever see the cartoons, like when
Speaker 1: the ship, like I know, Steven was coming out of
Speaker 1: my ship because I was like, I'm trying to keep
Speaker 1: holding down, and I'm like, that's the thing about it is, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know who you were. I knew who Rock Him was.
Speaker 1: I knew who not was we who. I knew who Mama.
Speaker 1: I knew who dress was. I knew Black she was.
Speaker 1: I knew So if I actually touched your record, he
Speaker 1: said to me, why did you do that? I can
Speaker 1: say because I love you, right, not because I'm rhymbing
Speaker 1: on something that's hot. And then and then it bothers
Speaker 1: me because I even blame the producers. I blame the
Speaker 1: engine because before you tell these nigga rhyme on this ship,
Speaker 1: tell who it is. We went in rhyme on somebody
Speaker 1: else's dope ship. If we couldn't represent it like what
Speaker 1: they did this, it's like, I'm not going to get
Speaker 1: one raw. So many if I can't right, so many,
Speaker 1: so many people would call me to re create band
Speaker 1: from tv O and I tell him no, not because
Speaker 1: it can't be re created. But one of my best
Speaker 1: friends in hip hop was named Big Punt. He's not around,
Speaker 1: so there's no way we can we create this moment, right.
Speaker 1: Let's let that moment die die, right, And it's my record.
Speaker 1: I paid for these motherfucker's so I darn you motherfuckers
Speaker 1: trying to do it, and then you're sending me their
Speaker 1: links and I'd be like, I don't want to play right,
Speaker 1: They'd be sending me legs too. I look at it,
Speaker 1: I say, relaxed. In my mind, I think that Pete
Speaker 1: Rock felt with what's the kid from Chicago Cheap No
Speaker 1: the Big Back when he did um women, it's over beat.
Speaker 1: You're not supposed touch women? Yeah, Yo, listen, Les Letten,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. They can't touch any EPND record
Speaker 1: y'all got. Y'all made too much. You can't telling the
Speaker 1: people that used them because to the young guys, Yo
Speaker 1: and I the most sample dudes in the hip hop
Speaker 1: hop like from all Our Beat if you do the history, yeah,
Speaker 1: tons of beat for beat, beat for beat, and they
Speaker 1: just do it us. Let's go. Did you like when
Speaker 1: artists well at that time we had because we was
Speaker 1: kind of off the grid, so it kind of helped
Speaker 1: us out a little, you know what I mean from
Speaker 1: Mario Wins. I don't want to know. I know. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's kind me, don't She's like, out your customer sample. Goddamn,
Speaker 1: I got that's so classic, man. Let me just tell you.
Speaker 1: And Jealous he come and talk to me, to your customer,
Speaker 1: drink your shoes, do your customers custom Me too, But
Speaker 1: Puppy was destroying pa to let's make some mus drinking.
Speaker 1: I don't come up with DMX. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: But you know, I don't know. I don't know why
Speaker 1: I even called He called Forty called me and said
Speaker 1: Forty called me and said, Drake the sample to DMX records.
Speaker 1: He feels like d MS and this sam for it.
Speaker 1: So he called me. You know, naturally, I'm the plot,
Speaker 1: made it happen, put him on the phone with DMX,
Speaker 1: and the dog didn't give a fuck. Yeah, I gotta
Speaker 1: get the poet each other. No, I'm gonna get out.
Speaker 1: But that's what But that's what that should be like.
Speaker 1: But that shows me right there, Drake had the consideration
Speaker 1: to the right. And but you know what you know
Speaker 1: what to me. I respect that if I'm gonna touch
Speaker 1: your record, I'm gonna actually reach out to you. So
Speaker 1: y'all listen. I feel like I'm gonna do this, and
Speaker 1: because you know what it is like a couple of brothers,
Speaker 1: uh touched my record. It's called sometimes, right, it's about
Speaker 1: my father, my father. It's about my father passed away. Right.
Speaker 1: So when I say sometimes I want to cry and pray.
Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes I want you. Sometimes sometimes I get drunk
Speaker 1: or goddamn day. Sometimes I want to go back around
Speaker 1: the way. Sometimes I want to ride a smoke. Sometimes
Speaker 1: sometimes I got money, and I still feel bro when
Speaker 1: I say things like that, you can't take this sometimes
Speaker 1: and be like sometimes I want a bit. Sometimes sometimes
Speaker 1: I don't like it, right, Like, I don't like it
Speaker 1: because this is about my father. Would you actually listen
Speaker 1: to the record? You listen to the right. You don't
Speaker 1: understand that this is not what you can this record
Speaker 1: tell these people they do it. They send it to
Speaker 1: me and I mind you. So I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: I don't own the record, so when they sample it,
Speaker 1: they don't actually have to like me, right, But I
Speaker 1: don't clear it In my mind, I'm a foul and
Speaker 1: I don't like you taking the card way. But what
Speaker 1: it actually is, it's like it's just like it's just
Speaker 1: like y'all, y'all yo, nigga just say slow down, baby,
Speaker 1: and then the nigga just he just takes it and
Speaker 1: he makes it big baby. Right. So, so do you
Speaker 1: have a problem with that or no? I have a
Speaker 1: major I know that that that when um, what was
Speaker 1: the kid that used rampage over? Oh no, not Joey,
Speaker 1: No man, what's the kid who did rampage over with
Speaker 1: l O cool J? Just God? That was I thought
Speaker 1: it wasn't even queens. But they didn't get in contact
Speaker 1: to actually use it. You didn't jump out there ump
Speaker 1: look at like the people used our records. They turned
Speaker 1: them into classics for themselves. You got jay Z, ain't
Speaker 1: no nigger. It's my thing. You got jay Z. You
Speaker 1: got to your next Yeah yeah, yeah, so yeah, thank you,
Speaker 1: Kim Serman, Kanye West Gold, they go to fa it's
Speaker 1: my things. Get at me, dog, Let's get the balls
Speaker 1: out of making it. Taking and see shaking the breaking
Speaker 1: the degrees and start baking them. Sees like the Tato's
Speaker 1: beats kicking like catle Yeah, and then the ropridies. Did
Speaker 1: he being override the rough prizes? Didn't he being over Yeah?
Speaker 1: I love that? But see that now now that's respect.
Speaker 1: So now it's now because for me, if a person
Speaker 1: calls me and they say, you know, I want to
Speaker 1: do it over like again, some of these joints I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't own, so when they say that, it kind
Speaker 1: of press me at ease. So do these people call
Speaker 1: you prior today? Samp with your record? So they're not
Speaker 1: some of them reach up, But it's really like you said,
Speaker 1: for its publishing, they don't. They don't have the callers.
Speaker 1: They gotta you know, let's they taking the rhymes or
Speaker 1: something like that or or whatever or whatever we'd be
Speaker 1: seeing and I publish it, you know. So like I said,
Speaker 1: I didn't get a call for Mario, but he still
Speaker 1: got the money, righty, let me take some because I
Speaker 1: can go with y'all for seventeen thousand millions. This is dope.
Speaker 1: We finally remit it because it's tipping like you're damn
Speaker 1: you know. So we didn't go into my amy because
Speaker 1: she was not gonna be on point with the rugs.
Speaker 1: I really I really doubted crazy. I'm sorry, I gotta
Speaker 1: I gotta gotta seeing that at least because this is
Speaker 1: rugs dot com. But you know what, um, we have
Speaker 1: depth Brooks dot com. This is the website we have
Speaker 1: at depth rugs on Instagram and you know what we
Speaker 1: wanted the rugs he's hitting right now because you didn't
Speaker 1: rush wen't make it working. Do you remember that? He actually, no, no,
Speaker 1: we wasn't even specting this this way. He was even dope,
Speaker 1: you want to spect to component. I told them as
Speaker 1: soon as I say, I said, but as far as that,
Speaker 1: we just knew that in the short period of time, Ali,
Speaker 1: a short period of time, were working a short period
Speaker 1: of time. But this is my this is my number,
Speaker 1: it's my partner. And kind of so he was like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm saying, okay, yo, I got something I
Speaker 1: can kick done quick. I hope I can. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying? So and say come on hit me.
Speaker 1: One day he said, do you see these rocks? He niggers. Guy,
Speaker 1: I say, let me just tell you. I want to
Speaker 1: just tell you what I want my house. You know,
Speaker 1: I had burned the story up earlier and I didn't
Speaker 1: bring it full circle. I said, I went to Leo's house, right,
Speaker 1: and Leo he had all this ship and the thing
Speaker 1: is everything that he Picassos. I don't give a funk
Speaker 1: about Pocasso. I don't even like that name. Who is
Speaker 1: that name? Right? And then I said honest, I said honest.
Speaker 1: I said, I just had gave me sneakers, sneakers right size,
Speaker 1: and it didn't matter side, because this is how I
Speaker 1: want my whole house to be his hip hop memorability. Man,
Speaker 1: Like I want I want a painting of E. F.
Speaker 1: M D in my kids room, and I want to
Speaker 1: pay in the rock him in my face. I want
Speaker 1: to do like I want to have a Caress one
Speaker 1: tennis ball, like I want to like I wanna because
Speaker 1: that's that's that's the that's my pocas. Yeah. Like we
Speaker 1: did the show with Run DMC in September. I got
Speaker 1: the pair Adidas. I had Run signed to datas and
Speaker 1: I had DMC signed to put them in the glass case. Yo,
Speaker 1: and they even got the special edition jam Master Jay
Speaker 1: Adidas crib. Then boom oh there's run signature, There goes DMCs,
Speaker 1: there goes the limited different jam Master James. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know I got right, and I think there was
Speaker 1: only like mad and I gotta pare. What's epm D's
Speaker 1: favorite at right, hippo besides eight nineties nineties? Yeah, for
Speaker 1: so much stuff. Nothing like it in the squad time frame,
Speaker 1: like when that was in the Holy ninety two that
Speaker 1: the old movie with the r I was thinking that.
Speaker 1: You remember the Queen's movie didn't got shot up? That
Speaker 1: was oh shift, I'm not proud of it. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: want to queens when we did a shot Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was mean nothing to see to see it. It's nothing
Speaker 1: when you went to go see the movie. No, no,
Speaker 1: I wasn't coming on my side. I'm totally but I
Speaker 1: remember you because your memory is crazy. This nigger right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a drink chan is a drinking chance. Came in.
Speaker 1: He's official drink chance. You want a drink champ. You
Speaker 1: gotta go back to Long Island. That's it. And look
Speaker 1: look we gave you the stamp. You're a drink chap
Speaker 1: now and you're gonna be a crown. How was it?
Speaker 1: How was it? Oh? Pay the fall actually was ill
Speaker 1: because so wood on the on on on the state
Speaker 1: where you saying that camera can really punched the kid.
Speaker 1: I was hit him and dragged him out the car.
Speaker 1: He really punched him. The mentor was like that we
Speaker 1: kind of cut you know, can't really hit the kid.
Speaker 1: You know, I was auditioned for our pa. You did
Speaker 1: it was me that you could You could have got that.
Speaker 1: I was fat at the time. Now you can do it. No, yeah,
Speaker 1: looking like fat at the time, Like now I who
Speaker 1: was fat was good? But what was the name when
Speaker 1: you was out blogging right there? It was crazy? Told
Speaker 1: you I can't do this kind of movie star too?
Speaker 1: And man, little bit, what's the state properant? Let me
Speaker 1: tell you. Let me tell you about I'll pay the
Speaker 1: fall because you ask, right. The funny thing about paying
Speaker 1: for was I actually auditioned to be our pole? What
Speaker 1: Harris who is hazy? Actually he actually uh resents your call.
Speaker 1: He rehearsed with me and he told me he knew
Speaker 1: I wasn't getting role. He was like, y'all you wild
Speaker 1: way too far and I'm big at the time. He's like,
Speaker 1: you're not getting this right, that's crazy. But I went
Speaker 1: and I still tried. Right, But the people love me
Speaker 1: so much that like, you're not our pole, We're gonna
Speaker 1: so the next role. That's that's what the next role was.
Speaker 1: And that you broke it up was me getting beat
Speaker 1: up by Cam. That that role when he snuffed him
Speaker 1: from that was that was my next ship. And and
Speaker 1: then the director said, nobody thinks Cam's gonna beat your like,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be vle you. You can happen. And
Speaker 1: then what happened was the director was Charles Anthony Stone
Speaker 1: with Charles Stone, Anthony the third one of the like
Speaker 1: I know his name was a third Charlestone, the third. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I would always remember that because I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: like I always see that movies when they said the third, like,
Speaker 1: I never think that's what I was. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest with you. And I never said this payton
Speaker 1: Forth was made up. That role never existed. The director
Speaker 1: just wanted me so so he just said, just do something.
Speaker 1: So when he came. When I came, I was actually
Speaker 1: on tour. I think he was on tour with me.
Speaker 1: And then we was on tour and I had one
Speaker 1: day to go in New York. So I landed and
Speaker 1: they said make something up, and I made it up
Speaker 1: all that ship. What they said, No, I kind of exaggerated.
Speaker 1: What they said was exaggerate. You gotta be the guy
Speaker 1: that say, introduced Alpo to a z I mean a
Speaker 1: z to Alphole. So I'm talking to a z uh,
Speaker 1: which was what was his name in the movie Ace,
Speaker 1: So I'm talking to Ace. But so what they told
Speaker 1: me was um Ace had never heard of Alphole, So
Speaker 1: you gotta exaggerate. So that's what I just said. I
Speaker 1: just made it up. One of the there's one take
Speaker 1: it raises. I was asked, I made it up. It
Speaker 1: was so good that when I finished, like I was like,
Speaker 1: I was like, I did that ship. I was like water,
Speaker 1: like waters, like sla it's not even what they don't
Speaker 1: he said, don't don't say no, Yasamin. You heard like
Speaker 1: something that you can relate to the nineties. So I
Speaker 1: had no I just all Emperor, and I didn't there's
Speaker 1: one take. The reason why I said water because I
Speaker 1: had nothing else to say. I didn't want to say cool.
Speaker 1: I don't want to make a peace because I'm like
Speaker 1: a piece might be dated. So I didn't know that
Speaker 1: this is a time piece, right, So so when I
Speaker 1: said water, I was fucking up. It was actually a
Speaker 1: mistake like water, No no, No, you gotta say water.
Speaker 1: You gotta say water. Whatever you like. Water. But E
Speaker 1: P M D. You guys are so much an inspiration
Speaker 1: not to just us meet poem e f N your
Speaker 1: inspiration to hip hop. You gout still test the times.
Speaker 1: You guys still looking a good out here doing a
Speaker 1: death frogs. I'm not gonna drink chance work, So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take that because you were saying, stop drissing. You
Speaker 1: know what you said? Locked up crystal clear? Crystal clear? Right.
Speaker 1: So we so you're working on a new album. Donnamic
Speaker 1: duo is big business. Dynamic duels, all of you working
Speaker 1: with other dynamic the best of the best that we
Speaker 1: think it was the best dynamic duals. So how far
Speaker 1: are you in this album? Right now? We knew, but
Speaker 1: we gotta stuff and then we pick to see what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do with on what records. Remember we used
Speaker 1: to do that, used to pick beats early. Now we Hollywood,
Speaker 1: we don't even do ship like that. You gotts. Once
Speaker 1: you get back to it, the first thing you think
Speaker 1: is like, why did I leave this in the first place?
Speaker 1: So when we did beats exchange and beats, you know,
Speaker 1: going over concepts and because we're gonna do I was
Speaker 1: thinking about doing like ghost Face and a Due Jane
Speaker 1: for storytelling and then exact and see how we right
Speaker 1: you know so, and then coming there with them and
Speaker 1: mix it together with them. Are they doing the storytelling
Speaker 1: the ghosts singing j to the eight to the end
Speaker 1: to the end, then having the you know coming, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what you enjoy better producing or the beats even though
Speaker 1: agetting the rhyme is something that because me and Pass
Speaker 1: we do it because he's like, yeah, and I'm sorry
Speaker 1: your parents did strictly for this album and people you
Speaker 1: don't know about this stuff that you know Y did. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I started coming in late like like like what to
Speaker 1: what you're saying? Then we was started going and keep
Speaker 1: doing something su But again the first one was you
Speaker 1: know I was I was watching. Now I learned to
Speaker 1: produce from from him and Charlie as a producer. Like
Speaker 1: when you when you sample, is it is it still
Speaker 1: lookal their sampling or you you suggest to get away
Speaker 1: from that. I do it because I don't know nothing
Speaker 1: else far. The essence of the culture is to be
Speaker 1: able to take the sample. So why would you do that? Right?
Speaker 1: Like you should just supposed to feel good, making to
Speaker 1: beat right, and how am I later? Then you run
Speaker 1: into something okay, but making music making music though, I
Speaker 1: went by because that's what makes you you. Because we
Speaker 1: got suthed, like Eric Clapton came and guys and begin
Speaker 1: business and Roger came and guys more bounced. But again
Speaker 1: Eric was cool. You don't need Eric Clapton on the charge,
Speaker 1: just like you know what I'm saying. But like this
Speaker 1: missed when this guy hit it was wait what happened
Speaker 1: talking about that? No business? You got what I need?
Speaker 1: Was missed the game up? He funked it up. That's
Speaker 1: why everybody was getting what did he do at no?
Speaker 1: Because that was the sample that he didn't or something
Speaker 1: he didn't clear right, and the record blew up and
Speaker 1: blew up and then everybody stopped coming. And this is
Speaker 1: this when um they want to attention? No, was this
Speaker 1: the was this the error? After that? Like, because now
Speaker 1: we sat for somebody's music, they say they want a
Speaker 1: hundred percent of your public? Was that from from the
Speaker 1: Reservoir Dorms on Jay Z's album, Yes, Isaac is one
Speaker 1: of a hundred percent. Gave unt do that. We gave
Speaker 1: it to him because Jay wanted to record bad, but
Speaker 1: you would do all said that was your weight floso
Speaker 1: because you flosom flosom. Just now, let's make it that
Speaker 1: was good. That was good. No what I'm saying, but
Speaker 1: that's what you game, right right right. That's some people.
Speaker 1: Sometimes we get up, we give up because music listen
Speaker 1: of nothing. How do you get paid if you got
Speaker 1: to give him a hunt like that with all of them,
Speaker 1: all of them that joints. So yeah, yeah, whatever you want,
Speaker 1: you still got good, still get in the public. Don't
Speaker 1: get the dumb. It come from everything else, touring and
Speaker 1: everything you know in the puppis and checks and all.
Speaker 1: You know, if the bracket this fire is fire is
Speaker 1: worth the sample. So what's what is one of the samples?
Speaker 1: What's what's the best thing about hip hop? Hip hop
Speaker 1: is was the identity of everybody having the own identity.
Speaker 1: It was the dopeest thing. Like everybody that you knew,
Speaker 1: that was tribe, that was daylight, that was public, that
Speaker 1: was seeing it, I was That was all that Nigga said.
Speaker 1: It's the identity of everybody having their own identity. Let's
Speaker 1: make a noise for that, just says smooth, slick and
Speaker 1: he trying to go over. Yah. Yeah, noise kid, right,
Speaker 1: bring that back, bring that back? Listen E P M D.
Speaker 1: I love you, thank you, love me really really really
Speaker 1: like I'm not saying this just because y'all hear. I'm
Speaker 1: saying this because real ship. I remember selling crack to
Speaker 1: your music. I'm not proud of that, but this, like
Speaker 1: I shot come to you, to you, I apologized. I
Speaker 1: saw a crack for one day and I was outside
Speaker 1: the hoard story stating for the robbery map on the radio.
Speaker 1: I had two crack bows on my mother's Lincoln Continental
Speaker 1: mark five on the floor. Why are you selling cracking?
Speaker 1: My man was doing it. Yeah, I was influencing. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh this ship, I mean influence like this.
Speaker 1: And it was early and so we didn't do a show.
Speaker 1: They were just playing on the radio and it was
Speaker 1: my man and he didn't force me and nothing. I
Speaker 1: just said, no, just look hard and funk. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: we put the capsules out. I'm going to go rob
Speaker 1: with nothing to do, so put the mask on, sat down.
Speaker 1: It's all on one day. You so crack had a
Speaker 1: mask and you robbed it in one day and get
Speaker 1: him to come out. So we went it and we
Speaker 1: was waiting too long and we up but that right
Speaker 1: there was a sign like yo. But I told proud
Speaker 1: Mada like I thought I got wrong. I try to
Speaker 1: even get wrong. Stop showing the day story. But we
Speaker 1: got now, and they got me that now they got yo,
Speaker 1: this yo, this is gonna be ya. This was before
Speaker 1: the whoever you gotta tell our stuff stuff so a
Speaker 1: little so when I saw me telling me I was
Speaker 1: pressing them, I was like, hey, yo, listen, man. The
Speaker 1: niggas robbed me being right now, like y'all. He was
Speaker 1: on the wrong side. He was on outside of the building,
Speaker 1: but that was not the neighborhood. But no, actually he
Speaker 1: got away though he was gone. He just had the
Speaker 1: double I was walking around with the false in d
Speaker 1: nigger the far. I don't know how I got. It's
Speaker 1: his birthday, so I'm like, yo, you know you want something, Yeah,
Speaker 1: good bottle of champagne or something. I saw a nigga,
Speaker 1: No he no, lie in the building with a white
Speaker 1: woman's wig going and the white face mask right like
Speaker 1: a wig face like a president mask. It was a
Speaker 1: white lady. But it threw me. I wanted to look
Speaker 1: at things about it. I think he got me. So
Speaker 1: so I'm in the building and then we outside, so
Speaker 1: the forcing didn't even leave. That's why I think he
Speaker 1: set me up. So I go into building. Right, it's
Speaker 1: on the third floor, so I don't have to take
Speaker 1: the elevator. So I go open the door to woke
Speaker 1: up in the project. To woke up stairs to the
Speaker 1: first floor. The dude said, come back down. You got
Speaker 1: the gun of my man's stomach, you know. But no, okay,
Speaker 1: he got the gun of my man's stomach and said
Speaker 1: come back here on a shoot. So I'm moving slow
Speaker 1: at a thousand dollars in my pocket. I had a
Speaker 1: white shirt on that the world be free, ring one
Speaker 1: with the world. I got on the two chains. I
Speaker 1: got my busy box. Now he snapped my business. Now
Speaker 1: mass at me going all the way home with no music.
Speaker 1: He tells me to take the chains off. So on
Speaker 1: this slow motion, so he snapped brown first one. I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is crazy, man, because I couldn't win. I gotta
Speaker 1: I was snaps snap if you don't come back, So
Speaker 1: he shot bow right. Let so serious, you know, no,
Speaker 1: it was over because when I walked outside and look
Speaker 1: at what happened, I'm like I knew to set me up,
Speaker 1: because how you know that something happened to me? Because
Speaker 1: he's shot to let the man's know that it's over.
Speaker 1: So I went back the next day with the fork green,
Speaker 1: I got a dog and my cousin Mail and the
Speaker 1: Fiords went to stout out the club. So outside the
Speaker 1: club until it was over. When outside opening, no, we
Speaker 1: didn't care who was there. Open the trunk up out
Speaker 1: the businses still stop busting out the club. I'm shooting
Speaker 1: everybody upright. So the next day Light comes and says,
Speaker 1: I heard what happened to stat Nolan. But that part
Speaker 1: didn't get me. The only part that was I was
Speaker 1: scared about was Paris finding out. So his man called
Speaker 1: him to, YO, your man got robbed. So oh, he
Speaker 1: called this is when? So what you're saying this out right?
Speaker 1: So Paris just me and says you got wrong, like
Speaker 1: you know everybody robbed me. So I'm lying to him
Speaker 1: why his man lived in you know it's so He's like, yo,
Speaker 1: you know your point you got you got robbed b
Speaker 1: And I'm like, Yo, that's what you're saying is out?
Speaker 1: You know that the gun talks in the record. The
Speaker 1: whole ship, so I have to go back. But look
Speaker 1: y'all went back and do that then because it got
Speaker 1: back there. Yo, they came and tried to clip up
Speaker 1: last night they got yeah, oh my god, the a
Speaker 1: p m D. I ain't gonna lie. Listen, listen, we
Speaker 1: almost got jam Rolls kill yeah big time before he
Speaker 1: went to the NBA Ohio right jail ross hip hop.
Speaker 1: These girls is good friends as you see. You see
Speaker 1: in the past, I mean and in the past five
Speaker 1: you got the epn D had someone a documentary. We're
Speaker 1: in the spot. Ohio comes to Detroit, No Detroit, come
Speaker 1: to Ohio and tennis arena. The pieces Detroit a big
Speaker 1: bamboo feel like they was they was. They destroyed this arena.
Speaker 1: So now they messed up by putting chairs and seat
Speaker 1: right in the ep m D concert right now. See
Speaker 1: we got ten thousands up in there. Now. I'm the
Speaker 1: only one that got to test that night too. Exactly,
Speaker 1: you got a pistol on your We're running the right
Speaker 1: so we want to do now Niggas is busting every angle.
Speaker 1: Now this is a moving vand Jalen J six something
Speaker 1: much finding way to get out of here. Man, So
Speaker 1: he jumped in the moving band. Luckily. I don't know
Speaker 1: how are you another stopped? You know, we came out
Speaker 1: the venue. Everybody came out at the same time. We
Speaker 1: had another door van rolling. Jalen jumping kept it moving.
Speaker 1: He would have been there because there was on us.
Speaker 1: No the time in Cana when there was there was
Speaker 1: a boke of the boots coming by my head. Really
Speaker 1: talk about we in North Carolinas, the niggas called them boys,
Speaker 1: called them that game we're going to at the party,
Speaker 1: we walk in there, specializing them going there first, right
Speaker 1: he had made already. Yeah, of course he didn't go
Speaker 1: in there right, all the sudd and we're walking there
Speaker 1: next me and my man pounds out there with us.
Speaker 1: I mean the at the party with the guy wants
Speaker 1: something the drugs may he said the stuff. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was right, I thought, man, because one day all the
Speaker 1: niggers was like, ain't no stars in here, so, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of playing us conduct. My man wasn't having it
Speaker 1: hit the boom the dudes gun dropped. So when the
Speaker 1: gun dropped, it was rolling towards the inside. So we
Speaker 1: want to go after the pistol, you know, and it
Speaker 1: was moving fast on my children. So we're backstrapped and said,
Speaker 1: we ain't gonna get that, so we ran. Now, I'm
Speaker 1: dirty pound light in this. My man is in top shape.
Speaker 1: You know. I'm neck and neck with this nick going.
Speaker 1: They're coming from out the cause under the tires, I
Speaker 1: mean busting. I don't know how we lived. I jumped
Speaker 1: in a ditch somewhere in the back and the guy
Speaker 1: sitting something goes from the highway has stopped. But I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm yelling. Nigga's like all right. I'm like yo yo,
Speaker 1: So so we get back. Big daddy can't hear about it.
Speaker 1: Him and a certain man Terminy had them big guns.
Speaker 1: It's like, yo, I like to happy yesterday. Man, the
Speaker 1: nigga's going down now. But like, okay, But I gotta
Speaker 1: bring it back to what you said earlier, because I
Speaker 1: feel like you said that um Uh Kane went on
Speaker 1: after y'all, But then you said Kane came on with
Speaker 1: a speedo. I just gotta get to this. I gotta Actually,
Speaker 1: I don't know you talk about we were stage the speedo, yes,
Speaker 1: the hotel and a hotel yes, yo. We used to
Speaker 1: get escorted to the county line a lot. We used
Speaker 1: to have the hostage negotiate to get our people back,
Speaker 1: and then they'd be like, whoa, you could have your
Speaker 1: boys backed as long as you leave the state. Me
Speaker 1: and Paris fort Hammer and at him fifty of this handling.
Speaker 1: They got there, They got in mind there, but we
Speaker 1: had to fight him and some of the police department. Yes,
Speaker 1: was understanding. But when nolla Ice was opening for us,
Speaker 1: ever understanding. Ham told Hammond told told have it from Oakland.
Speaker 1: Hammond told Hammond, yeah. Hammon told us too, don't have
Speaker 1: your man dancing on the speakers. So we said, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: it's your door Nika Thiny from Queen's you know, for
Speaker 1: rocking right people more. He didn't want to hear all that.
Speaker 1: That's what you do. He jumped on the speakers anyway.
Speaker 1: While now when when she is over, somebody come to
Speaker 1: to findy talking mess. So Powders comes over to say
Speaker 1: to see what's going on. So do you know it's
Speaker 1: puffed up at p p broke the glasses, the frame,
Speaker 1: the cheek, boom, nigga, everything came up right. So again
Speaker 1: we're six two and a half. Have you said chocolate
Speaker 1: brown you don't like yo yo? So I thought, wow,
Speaker 1: we're going to a hallway and we stuck met Paris
Speaker 1: and Solo and we trapped. But about you know, it's
Speaker 1: about fifty of them anyway, just before the Georgian she
Speaker 1: can be the ice and she hamdls kind of down together.
Speaker 1: Russell Simmons had the call and had to holding a
Speaker 1: couple of days exactly. So yeah, but he called Leo
Speaker 1: onto No, no, he could get on the day they
Speaker 1: got the mount handled. But the way the whole thing
Speaker 1: went down at the end, everything ended right from the
Speaker 1: let your police man who only gets down just opened
Speaker 1: the back door. We left. Somebody stole our mic that night,
Speaker 1: and we had the audacity after we tore that place
Speaker 1: up to go to the prestin and see if anybody
Speaker 1: turned in the mike. I wasn't get a little more story,
Speaker 1: like all right, we gotta stop. He was boys, But
Speaker 1: we fought mostly getting step to it, getting like taking
Speaker 1: advantage of and I'm not gonna step to me if
Speaker 1: I'm looking at them, like are you serious? Used like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see Paris was this friend of the football.
Speaker 1: We was like, did you see us? Parents? Like no,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying but they didn't like a couple of
Speaker 1: rappers are I'm like, damn, you ain't gonna win, man,
Speaker 1: Like in my head when I look at like, you know,
Speaker 1: coming down. But that was like we coming and again
Speaker 1: and we scat something that I'm gonna come up to
Speaker 1: dress room. I'm missing on name, but they come like
Speaker 1: just room, not just within them and everything. A couple
Speaker 1: of you, like y'all arrested, y'all out. You know, you
Speaker 1: know the little bathroom they have in the production office
Speaker 1: when you're cooking up your money. Ye know. We stayed
Speaker 1: in there with the cups. They stayed on the phone
Speaker 1: with Russian management. Yeah, we coups sit in the ride.
Speaker 1: We got twenty five thousand people like that going and
Speaker 1: everything everything joint, where's the young artist? Where City boyd?
Speaker 1: And I'm young? Really? Yeah? The right not shut the games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but this is what what they're describing as me as
Speaker 1: a CEO, I want you to understand what the fun
Speaker 1: they're saying. Like Rush management was crazy. Everybody. If you
Speaker 1: wasn't on the depth jat, you had to be on
Speaker 1: Rush and that eventually turned into violater that's true, and
Speaker 1: eventually heavy and then and then because I felt like
Speaker 1: I was on depth jam my whole career, but I wasn't.
Speaker 1: I was. I was on I guess rush um Russ
Speaker 1: excuse me. I felt I felt like he was like
Speaker 1: fuck it and he gave it to baby Chris. That's
Speaker 1: what That's what his name was. It wasn't baby. And
Speaker 1: actually Chris Lighty name is actually not even Chris because
Speaker 1: like his real name is Daryl Lightdy. So baby chrismas
Speaker 1: because it's Mike mke Lightley. But but the truth Chris
Speaker 1: was his father. That's why they call him baby Chris. Wow.
Speaker 1: So Chris Ldy's real name. And that's how I know
Speaker 1: because like when he first signed me, you'll send meifty,
Speaker 1: send me fifteen thousand or whatever. And then I kept
Speaker 1: going to the Western Union back in the days you
Speaker 1: were sending that ship, like you're sending that type of ship,
Speaker 1: Chris ldy and there was like, no, You're closet, was like,
Speaker 1: and I finally called Clordia and Claudia was like, his
Speaker 1: name is Daryl Lighty and know was that whole ship?
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. But he's why they called him
Speaker 1: baby Chris is because his father name was Chris. So
Speaker 1: the reason why I want everybody to know is one
Speaker 1: of the best situations, best places I've ever seen in life,
Speaker 1: was one seventy Varry. You remember that christ You could
Speaker 1: roll dice there. You get a haircut and you get
Speaker 1: some pussy. If you never us into that's kind of
Speaker 1: what we tell you something. It was like the bad
Speaker 1: boys on them. It was telling to be like that.
Speaker 1: It was bad the depth jam first one seventy back,
Speaker 1: and then then they had another office and there was
Speaker 1: my chump king. I'm seventy back, was it one? So
Speaker 1: we started off Elizabeth Street was like the town, right,
Speaker 1: but then one seventy bag. Yeah, it was like for me,
Speaker 1: it was like a hood outside of the hook meeting
Speaker 1: Grand Temptation would have much money, grant nothing. I used
Speaker 1: to call us like, yeah, old day, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest. That office I felt like the hood outside
Speaker 1: of the hood. But it also felt like this is
Speaker 1: this when you make it. This is people you to
Speaker 1: sell a million records like you. Every it's different like you,
Speaker 1: you was ninety eight, the next like guys you know
Speaker 1: against and a million million records categories like you was.
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember you was balaning despot with me.
Speaker 1: You and M and Peter guns in them like one, two,
Speaker 1: and three. Don't get rabbits are light, super thug and
Speaker 1: fucking Peter Gunn your video I remember. I remember I
Speaker 1: was like, damn, I gotta take him down. Take him down.
Speaker 1: You did, and I remember we did um um, what's
Speaker 1: the dude from um mtvtr was name not all right? No,
Speaker 1: no the way guy, I'm Johnny. I'm not a john
Speaker 1: I remember being on the beach interviewing that day. I'm like, Dad,
Speaker 1: you know we got the one that was it was
Speaker 1: ringing so hard, like I'm like, yo, Leo, listen, man,
Speaker 1: we gotta you know, be dropped another record like like no,
Speaker 1: we are right. And then Maxwell we got another one
Speaker 1: album that he'd be Max but I maxt One got
Speaker 1: beef for me, Max One. I I gotta tell you
Speaker 1: what because I said on the record, I said, um,
Speaker 1: your niggas is gay like the Maxwell video and he
Speaker 1: never he never forgot that, like they actually ring the
Speaker 1: Violator like he actually I'm a super shoot at this time,
Speaker 1: like I'm super shooter, Like I don't have shooters. I
Speaker 1: am the shooter. So he came to Violator because he
Speaker 1: was a street dude nobody do it. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: just like I said, Yo, what did you do to Maxwell?
Speaker 1: It was at this time, I just say dumb it
Speaker 1: in my round. I didn't I didn't know people actually
Speaker 1: listen to me. So some MAXs I was only a
Speaker 1: million people. He told them, niggas you tell Nora, me
Speaker 1: and him gotta fight like and Chris is like, yo, no,
Speaker 1: he's gonna shoot. You don't want to fight. But I
Speaker 1: just thought it was the dopest thing that the R
Speaker 1: and B to fight me like I actually I told
Speaker 1: everybody little to me and another thing before we go,
Speaker 1: that's so big. I want to go and start get
Speaker 1: into the middle place. But love is a situation where
Speaker 1: we need that more. Like you said before that some
Speaker 1: point we can change the love of ship by Nigga
Speaker 1: is just loving this stead of the head said, and
Speaker 1: then Michael Epp said to over forty. The only reason
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna put these up it was necessary. I
Speaker 1: don't give if you called me a fat fun or
Speaker 1: your music sucks or whatever. I'm going home. That's because
Speaker 1: my to year old son needs his dad. That's right.
Speaker 1: The only way I'm going if I'm put in the
Speaker 1: position right I'm protecting my family or put in the city,
Speaker 1: but I gotta get out then I'm putting these up.
Speaker 1: But other than that, though I can't see you being
Speaker 1: this is the point seven four year years old and saying, Yo,
Speaker 1: I'm talking these streets like a funk that nigga you know,
Speaker 1: and you're here nigga's talking mess or on the web
Speaker 1: and doing this ship on the text and oh at
Speaker 1: this age, I'm not fighting you money, I'm not just
Speaker 1: Here's the problem is hip hop gotta start taking responsibility,
Speaker 1: meaning there's no way you should fight. There's no way
Speaker 1: you should fight. This gotta be somebody that's in the
Speaker 1: club saying what I know? Are you talking to? Who? Like? Right?
Speaker 1: And we gotta that's that's that's the thing, is Hill,
Speaker 1: everybody that's here. We gotta start taking responsibility. And because
Speaker 1: you know why, and this is the reason why we
Speaker 1: started this, because we gotta actually protect our legends like
Speaker 1: we actually do. Like if you see I told you
Speaker 1: now he's black, he's black. But I remember I remember
Speaker 1: seeing Prince just just go somewhere and I'm just seeing
Speaker 1: the club just just who just behind that there just
Speaker 1: and it came in by itself and he levitated. In
Speaker 1: my mind, did see him walk in my mind definitely,
Speaker 1: but it was like, damn, I saw that. I mean
Speaker 1: I saw it. Button. That's that's exactly like if rock
Speaker 1: Kim coming to the club, if EPMD comeing to the club,
Speaker 1: Careras coming to the club, and anything that happened anywhere
Speaker 1: around y'all, it's my fault. Now, it's my fault, like
Speaker 1: I made it happen. It's my fault because I could
Speaker 1: have prevented it. I gotta set the presidents. I know
Speaker 1: I'm dyslexic. I gotta set the presidents. I said it right, Yes,
Speaker 1: the president. I gotta presidents so that the next generation
Speaker 1: set the presidents. Yes, very important about that. It's very important.
Speaker 1: We have to. But no, we left the game. There's
Speaker 1: been no one there here that That's why I apologize
Speaker 1: to to to soldier boy because from the boys said, listen,
Speaker 1: you arguing at me, But we had nobody to tell
Speaker 1: us exactly, so only did what I knew, right, he
Speaker 1: was argent apologized right, Yes, I didn't know. We didn't
Speaker 1: head him to go on. See we had something to
Speaker 1: go on when we came. You know that it was
Speaker 1: a way from Baby Christ was yes, do it right
Speaker 1: exactly and that and that's the reason why. UM, if anybody,
Speaker 1: if you're listening to this, like I told I was
Speaker 1: telling you outside, Pete, I was telling you outside that
Speaker 1: I had checked into this hotel, right, and when I
Speaker 1: checked into this hotel that didn't sound good at all,
Speaker 1: but I had checked into this I had checked into
Speaker 1: this hotel, right. And when I checked into this hotel,
Speaker 1: the guy says to me, thank you, and I said,
Speaker 1: thank you for what? And he goes, you put me
Speaker 1: on the duck down right. A part of me wanted
Speaker 1: to smack the ship out of there. That's how the
Speaker 1: fund can I put you on a duck down? But
Speaker 1: then another part of me was like, damn, I gotta
Speaker 1: recognize what I'm doing. Because he's twenty three years old.
Speaker 1: He didn't know. So when he aired the duck down interview,
Speaker 1: he went and he did his research and he went
Speaker 1: and he you know, he actually knew Smith and Wesson
Speaker 1: was and he knew it, but he was open. So
Speaker 1: part of me still want to smack him because I'm like, damn.
Speaker 1: But then the other part of me was like, this
Speaker 1: guy don't even know him, nor he wasn't educated. He
Speaker 1: don't even know. He's looking at me like the podcast,
Speaker 1: and that's what you said your video the other day.
Speaker 1: You're seen in a video and he was like, no,
Speaker 1: tell his name is who he is, But I don't killing, No,
Speaker 1: I don't, you don't care. But I just felt that
Speaker 1: because I said I wanted to say, because I was me.
Speaker 1: I wanted me to get. But the thing about it is,
Speaker 1: think about it is I don't care if people have
Speaker 1: to look at me like that and I could kill
Speaker 1: still represent hip hop. I'm gonna say one thing before
Speaker 1: we get this is no disrespect far as what's going on,
Speaker 1: and no, you know we nowhere near white and black thing.
Speaker 1: If we don't make a stance, they would want to
Speaker 1: start the error off with martial matters. Yes, you know
Speaker 1: what I thought about that the number one rapper in
Speaker 1: the world, the number one selling rapper in the world
Speaker 1: is Imminem. And it's not gonna do it because he's
Speaker 1: incredibly nice. But that's what the culture is going through.
Speaker 1: If they can rewrite it, you know what I'm talking
Speaker 1: about eating I'm so sorry to cut you up. You
Speaker 1: know what I thought about the other day, and this
Speaker 1: is the reason why I love what we're doing because
Speaker 1: I thought about it. I said, Yo, what happens if
Speaker 1: hip hop is just tarnished for the next hundred years? Right?
Speaker 1: And what happens when they actually go do research? You
Speaker 1: know what, They could actually look up love and hip hop.
Speaker 1: That's horrible, I'm just saying. But it's televised, so think
Speaker 1: about it. So think about my thing. My thing is
Speaker 1: they can actually go and pull up because the history
Speaker 1: books is gonna up. It's gonna life up. So just imagine.
Speaker 1: It's his story. But it goes back to what Eric said,
Speaker 1: we have to have We should have categories for hip
Speaker 1: hop so everything is not just shoved under hip hop
Speaker 1: one label before before it gets written off the way
Speaker 1: he said. But you know he's been gonna suck it up.
Speaker 1: It's gonna his story, gonna suck it up, because Yo, glory,
Speaker 1: if we don't work like like he said, we stopped working.
Speaker 1: So now and have you said to you might wait
Speaker 1: with the records, you can't do it. You know there's
Speaker 1: people out there. Even if don't worry about about what
Speaker 1: you think about what mainstream is, it's when he make
Speaker 1: the records and do you it's gonna come. It's gonna
Speaker 1: yo that that when I tell you that it's gonna
Speaker 1: be blessed and it's gonna come, that the world will
Speaker 1: hear it. I promise you the world is gonna hear it.
Speaker 1: It's a different type of buying. Now. The world don't
Speaker 1: woke up. People. People don't woke up now. They woke
Speaker 1: up and they went to the run. They want to
Speaker 1: they want to hear I'm telling you, tip, we just
Speaker 1: did a new deal with Title and hit Squad Digital.
Speaker 1: So these are the power moves that we're breaking news
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, okay, I want you to describe what
Speaker 1: you just said, because you said you did a deal
Speaker 1: with Title Digital, So that means you're an artist's owner. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's correct, and I want people to understand what that means.
Speaker 1: That means that you can be an artists and we're
Speaker 1: gonna chicken. That means you could be an artist and
Speaker 1: you can still own your ship too. That's correct, And
Speaker 1: this is what we do. So basically that all the
Speaker 1: work that we put in back in the early parts
Speaker 1: of our career is coming back around. So we self contained,
Speaker 1: independent in house, and this is the way we're gonna
Speaker 1: fund on it because in the technology era, it's all
Speaker 1: about content. Now they even think download it's gonna be
Speaker 1: out in a minute, and it's all about to watch.
Speaker 1: Think you think you know what you're doing it. Let
Speaker 1: me ask you this. Do you like streaming because to me,
Speaker 1: I like streaming because I feel like your hate is
Speaker 1: even listening to you, to you because they feel like
Speaker 1: they're not supporting you. Oh yeah, but yeah there right,
Speaker 1: you see membership So you know we just covered the
Speaker 1: bass part. Even if you press it, you're watching, you
Speaker 1: got vib'll reported even the Hayters tuned into what we're
Speaker 1: actually doing. The scream well one album one of albums up.
Speaker 1: That's terrible, right dad for the artist. But on the record,
Speaker 1: if you're only you're good in the streaming, it's money.
Speaker 1: So yo. Big shout out to Daniel for the you know,
Speaker 1: making the squad coming, Chance for having that bigot they
Speaker 1: got second over the school nory got me up less,
Speaker 1: that's not that's the drink Chance, got me up? Promise
Speaker 1: you hold up time out? Can we give all uh
Speaker 1: social media tags? Ye? What you give it out? Give
Speaker 1: it out? Tell them? Oh yeah you have my bad
Speaker 1: Oh I thought I didn't. Eric sermon Eric I c
Speaker 1: K Underscore Sermon on Instagram and I am Eric Sermon
Speaker 1: on Twitter, and of course death runs on Instagram and
Speaker 1: death words dot Com on www whatever yo, and I'm
Speaker 1: on the on Instagram, on pm D Underscore Mike Underscore
Speaker 1: doc on Twitter, on p m D of E p
Speaker 1: m D and then uh Facebook, p m D, VP
Speaker 1: m D. I got a Facebook. That's how you know
Speaker 1: you got got I ain't got one either, But listen
Speaker 1: to my brothers. I'm gonna be honest. Yeah, I really
Speaker 1: appreciated y'all. You called for us and BK, we are not.
Speaker 1: You called and you came, and no, you called for
Speaker 1: uce be heard. You have me, And you know what,
Speaker 1: I don't want this to be the first second I wanted.
Speaker 1: I want you to always come back because why and
Speaker 1: why why we got this platform. I don't know how
Speaker 1: long we're gonna have this platform at this level. So
Speaker 1: you know what I want to do. I want to
Speaker 1: continue to support people that I want to support. And
Speaker 1: that's why y'all, y'all hear. Because but the thing about
Speaker 1: it is, we don't know, oh we do know how
Speaker 1: about that? We do know that hip hop should be celebrated.
Speaker 1: And that's that's my last meeting with Leo Colins, the
Speaker 1: last time I've seen him. He said, do you know
Speaker 1: like this is working? I said no, He said, because
Speaker 1: hip hop has never had a celebration. We always tear
Speaker 1: each other down. Even why do you why didn't he
Speaker 1: fix it? I'm fixing it. I'm saying, saying, but didn't
Speaker 1: tell you that? No, I didn't. Some now I got smart,
Speaker 1: but but I just wanted to take the compliment. I
Speaker 1: definitely didn't want to get back. But the thing about
Speaker 1: it is, I thought he had a point because hip
Speaker 1: hop like, why the funk we can't. So the thing
Speaker 1: that hip hop really is in the colleges, in the
Speaker 1: high school, how to teach and celebrates, you know everything.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something big. One day, I'm like
Speaker 1: Kentucky somewhere right and some guy he does a step
Speaker 1: and as so as he does a step, the other
Speaker 1: guy goes, oh, shoo you for him such and they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're doing this ship together. It's a white guy and
Speaker 1: a black guy. But you know what it was that
Speaker 1: fraternity run them together. Yes, that's what the hip hop is. YO,
Speaker 1: No racism in hip hop there's no racism hip hop.
Speaker 1: We're supposed to were are fraternity. So no matter where
Speaker 1: you're at or where else, no matter what right, no
Speaker 1: matter like you be from New Orleans, we're supposed to
Speaker 1: say hip hop, hip hop. Yeah, yeah, that's what my mom.
Speaker 1: They did that then. So that's what I'm trying to
Speaker 1: tell people. I'm trying to say is that hip hop
Speaker 1: is supposed to be a real fraternity. Now, before you
Speaker 1: get about of here, I've been trying to start something
Speaker 1: called a hip hop Union, which means we want everybody
Speaker 1: to get one percent of their profits, not a lot.
Speaker 1: And the problem is when if DMX has a problem,
Speaker 1: DMX needs to be held down, the hip Hop Union
Speaker 1: takes care to try to do that, like Cool Cool
Speaker 1: when he's in trouble, donate. And the thing about it is,
Speaker 1: the thing about it is, I know it sounds unpossible
Speaker 1: because we dine niggers right right exactly, and we're all
Speaker 1: but so many people want they want to sit back.
Speaker 1: But the thing about it is, we gotta think about
Speaker 1: the less four right, Like how about I love this?
Speaker 1: How about like Chier that's he said he he did
Speaker 1: something and he admitted and he took his cry, but
Speaker 1: my son said he never did it, and he still
Speaker 1: maintains that to this day. He did eight years and
Speaker 1: he said he never did it, but he never had
Speaker 1: a lawyer. And the thing about the hip hop union,
Speaker 1: we should all be together and now somebody set up. Man,
Speaker 1: don't talking about no, no, no no, But because Nori,
Speaker 1: then we would be the only billion, multibillion dollar industry
Speaker 1: that don't have a union protection. That's in boxing right
Speaker 1: right the d next to Yeah. But that's what I
Speaker 1: gotta say. I'm gonna tell you something. I'm sorry, and
Speaker 1: I don't hope everybody's listening. I don't know, but you know,
Speaker 1: the other day we've seen DMX on stage. Amount of
Speaker 1: us really appreciated it, right, We didn't appreciate. Not not
Speaker 1: the fact that we didn't appreciate on stage, but we
Speaker 1: were just like, that's all. That's all kid, Our kids
Speaker 1: gonna look a little different. So if he needs help,
Speaker 1: the thing, I can't do it by myself. What's happening?
Speaker 1: We do the hip hop union and people just say,
Speaker 1: you know what, that's permanent headlock. Yeah, but you guys
Speaker 1: want to do it to know true. But if he
Speaker 1: does want to do it right for us to understand
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because it's like it's like it's it's
Speaker 1: just it's just like it's just like yo, yo, because
Speaker 1: the rock guys do it all the time like it's
Speaker 1: nothing because you know, just at it like like like
Speaker 1: like they make you pay to do a movie, That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Sac So they actually make you say,
Speaker 1: he goes this, I'm out the money and then you're
Speaker 1: a part of the union and then now you do
Speaker 1: the movie and then then you get paid. Why why
Speaker 1: why hip hop is thirty fucking five forty years old?
Speaker 1: Why we can't do that? Why we can't actually take
Speaker 1: care of like it's been so it's been so many
Speaker 1: different times where I'm like, yo, damn, I know if
Speaker 1: I cut the check or I know if I do it,
Speaker 1: it might be perceived bad because they're like what he thinking, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying. So you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I say okay, and you know it's okay,
Speaker 1: and you comfortable way then you pick up the phone
Speaker 1: and be like you get a bed right, And that's
Speaker 1: because because because you know and then come out a
Speaker 1: better person. This is what I'm sayings the point because
Speaker 1: I want that for you, because if we don't protect ourselves,
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna protect us. And I know we're kicking it.
Speaker 1: We're talking together with this ship is real, like that's you.
Speaker 1: I love, not seen when I seen certain people, when
Speaker 1: I've seen them that I can help, but I've seen
Speaker 1: also these niggas are niggas, and I'm a nigger too,
Speaker 1: and he might take it personally if I stepped in
Speaker 1: a certain way. So I sat back and I said, damn, first,
Speaker 1: we started with the hip hop flag. Remember you started
Speaker 1: with the hip hop flag. I feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm getting deep gein d but I stay
Speaker 1: at the W hotels, right. I love the W, I
Speaker 1: really do. But every W has a gay flag out there?
Speaker 1: Am I saying? No? Am I saying, don't take the
Speaker 1: gay flag out? No? But that's it's it's an automatic identification.
Speaker 1: It's an automatic identification that you're kind is welcome man. Right.
Speaker 1: I felt like we should have a hip hop flag
Speaker 1: that no matter where you go, you see this flag
Speaker 1: and you know you welcome. You understand, because I could
Speaker 1: go to the restaurant right now, right, and I can
Speaker 1: go and I got I got a little bit brad,
Speaker 1: so whatever, but I won't know if I'm accepted to
Speaker 1: the bill comes. I want to know I'm accepted prior
Speaker 1: to that. I want to walk into a restaurant and say,
Speaker 1: oh ship, I know I'm good in that because they
Speaker 1: got the hip hop the same way, and I'm not
Speaker 1: comparing hip hop the gage like I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1: I understand they play, understand, I understand, I understand. But
Speaker 1: at the same token, that's the respect. When you look
Speaker 1: and you say, damn you see that, you see that
Speaker 1: black big business business down right, I have to say, yeah,
Speaker 1: seeing copon real right off to getting you hear stuff
Speaker 1: and you don't know now you're seeing like yo nigas
Speaker 1: he was at the house for the album, like yoll
Speaker 1: and then and then like what do you think I can't.
Speaker 1: Before we get out of here, we just want to
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Speaker 1: to hear peace