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Speaker 2: I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading The Bengals Booth Podcast.

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Speaker 2: The Working on Our Night moves addition, as we look

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Speaker 2: Former Bengals safety Solomon Wilcotts, the host of the opening

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Speaker 2: discuss how the Bengals can overcome their zero and two start.

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Speaker 2: Tight Ends coach James Casey discusses a huge day for

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Speaker 2: I'm getting a middle finger instead. Now let's get to

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Speaker 2: my first guest. Solomon Wilcott started its safety for the

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Speaker 2: Bengals in Super Bowl twenty three and has gone on

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Speaker 2: to have a highly successful career in broadcasting. He currently

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Speaker 2: hosts the Opening Drive show on sirius XM NFL Radio

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Speaker 2: in addition to hosting the Believe In Bengals podcast, and

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Speaker 2: Sally joined me this week to discuss the team coming

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Speaker 2: off that one point loss at Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: I've had to check my blood pressure more frequently than

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Speaker 1: I ever had. These games are taking more of a

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Speaker 1: it was one of those games that I felt like

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Speaker 1: we wanted, except every time I go back and look

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Speaker 1: at the final score, I was, you know, became more

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Speaker 1: aware that we didn't win it. So look, I think

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Speaker 1: the team played much better week two than week one.

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Speaker 1: I love the fact that the defense came to play

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Speaker 1: and may Patrick Mahomes look human, right, And man, I

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Speaker 1: can't say enough about the energy of Trey Hendrickson that

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Speaker 1: he plays with. He makes he makes you proud to

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Speaker 2: Have you seen a better interception than Cam Taylor BRIT's

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Speaker 2: development as the Bengals quote unquote shutdown corner.

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Speaker 1: Well, I was talking about him on my show on

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Speaker 1: not trash talking for Cam Taylor Brit That's that's Cam

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Speaker 1: being Cam like if you know him, very confident young man.

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Speaker 1: He has a knack and a fair and a flair

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Speaker 1: for making plays. And I told him, I said dude,

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Speaker 1: finding the football. I mean, the ball finds hailm at times.

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Speaker 1: And that play he made was one of the greatest

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Speaker 1: interceptions you're ever going to see. And it was against

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Speaker 1: in sequence in pass covers, particularly a press manda man covers,

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Speaker 2: The other starting outside corner. How do you think Dax

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Speaker 1: Come along good, but could be better and more it's

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Speaker 1: On third down. DJ Turner came in. He made a

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Speaker 2: Alvin Willcotts is our guest. You're in an NFL safety

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Speaker 2: Anthony on that pass interference call at the end of

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Speaker 1: Play the ball. Play the ball you got You got

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Speaker 1: just play the ball's thrown. Now, go play the ball.

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Speaker 2: Lou Aniromo said the defensive tackles were completely exhausted, which

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Speaker 1: No, I agree. Look, it's okay to give a quarterback

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Speaker 1: He really didn't have anywhere to throw, because this should

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Speaker 1: hit him in the head after he was hitting the receiver. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't question because think about it, we were already

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Speaker 1: know how I'm gonna tell you. Defensive linemen, that's why

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Speaker 1: there's keys that we read, but we are always in

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Speaker 1: a reaction mode. There's more energy exerted when you're on

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Speaker 1: That's why you rotate defensive linemen. But you never rotate

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Speaker 1: They don't use extra energy trying to react to what

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Speaker 1: and we all make mistakes. But what we cannot do

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Speaker 1: speaking from that perspective because I believe that Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: He's a championship quarterback, and the championship quarterbacks protect the football.

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Speaker 1: Bowls because he protects the football and not that he's perfect,

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Speaker 1: not saying it never got away from him. You know this,

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Speaker 1: Joe Montana played at four Super Bowls. In those four games,

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Speaker 1: Joe is getting into rhythm now. He's getting into a

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Speaker 1: players around him is not an easy thing. Playing quarterback

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Speaker 2: As I mentioned in that interview with Sally, the Bengals

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Speaker 6: trying to coach those guys the best I can with

434
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Speaker 6: their you know, their mindset, their technique and and and.

435
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Speaker 3: When they get their opportunities, take advantage of it. But

436
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 3: just be it.

437
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Speaker 6: You know, a lot of our positions just being a

438
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 6: trustworthy guy, just being consistent, be trustworthy, do all the

439
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 6: little stuff right that nobody notices, you know, like I'm getting,

440
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 6: you know, to talk to you today because they caught

441
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 6: a bunch of passes. But there's a lot of other

442
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:36,840
Speaker 6: stuff too that's involved for us to win, and we

443
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,679
Speaker 6: didn't win. So the main the main objective is for

444
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 6: us to win and do whatever we got to do

445
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 6: to win, whether that's catch you know, ten passes a game,

446
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 6: or whether that's catch no passes and just block really

447
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 6: well and finish all your every play and be where

448
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 6: he's supposed to ever play.

449
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Speaker 2: We're visiting with James Casey. Let's talk about some of

450
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 2: the individuals. Mike Kasicki had seven catches for ninety one yards.

451
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Speaker 2: This is his seventh NFL season and his eight offensive coordinator.

452
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,679
Speaker 2: Do you think that helped him pick things up quickly?

453
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 2: The fact that he's been exposed to so many systems

454
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Speaker 2: in the NFL.

455
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 6: I think it definitely has him just seeing so many

456
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 6: different offenses, so many different schemes, and each each one

457
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 6: of those different coordinators he's had to like, you know,

458
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,959
Speaker 6: change his you know, terminology to make it fit that. So,

459
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 6: you know, just as you're doing that, you're starting to

460
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 6: understand that, you know, all a lot of concepts are

461
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,679
Speaker 6: very similar. Everybody in the NFL runs the same kind

462
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 6: of stuff. So he's just a really smart guy too,

463
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 6: and he he understands that you can tell him something

464
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,159
Speaker 6: one time and he'll remember it, you know, and he

465
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 6: can use all the past knowledge he had from the past,

466
00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,400
Speaker 6: you know now melt you know, melting into our offense,

467
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 6: and a lot of it's just getting Burrow comfortable with him,

468
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,679
Speaker 6: and you know, for Mike just to make you know,

469
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 6: do everything he can to get earn that trust with Burrow,

470
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 6: earn that trust with Zach and Dan to where he

471
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 6: can be out there in the past game and then

472
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Speaker 6: doing all the other little stuff right too as a

473
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Speaker 6: blocker as you know, help it out in pass protection,

474
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,880
Speaker 6: and so we're not real predictable when he's out there.

475
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Speaker 6: But he's he's a really smart guy and I'm you know,

476
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Speaker 6: I'm excited to see kind of where's were the season

477
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 6: goes with him.

478
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 2: The first two plays of the game last week were

479
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 2: passes to Drew Sample, which I'm guessing that a lot

480
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 2: of people had on their Bengo card. He signed a

481
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 2: three year contract extension in the offseason. Why is he

482
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Speaker 2: so valuable to this team?

483
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 6: He's extremely valuable, And it's the people that like really

484
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 6: really understand football and like really understand what it's like,

485
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 6: you know, what it takes to win, Like they really

486
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 6: value those guys. There's a reason why, you know there

487
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 6: you look around the league, like there's not a lot

488
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 6: of great like blocking tight ends that that are that

489
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 6: are smart and tough and can be trusted guys. Like

490
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Speaker 6: there's there's guys that look great catching the ball and

491
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 6: I know, like you know as a fan or you

492
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 6: know in some some of the media, you're just really

493
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 6: you're just falling the ball all the time, so you're

494
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 6: just seeing who catches it. You don't really analyze the

495
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 6: film and see all the stuff in the run game

496
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,360
Speaker 6: and the pass protection and just being a trusted guy

497
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Speaker 6: that gets lined u where he's supposed to. And sometimes

498
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 6: we're running routes and we don't get the ball, but

499
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 6: we got to make sure we're running the right the

500
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 6: route the right way too. You know, maybe that opens

501
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 6: up Jamar or t or one of our other receivers.

502
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,919
Speaker 6: And he's that type of guy, like he's he's unselfish.

503
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 6: You can put him out there in any spot. You

504
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 6: know he's gonna, you know, give it his best effort

505
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 6: and simple thing like that. But it's it is that

506
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 6: goes into the human nature part of the guys that

507
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 6: just really care and really want to work hard all

508
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 6: the time and really try. And you see it throughout

509
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,679
Speaker 6: the NFL when you watch film, watch watch games, like

510
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 6: certain teams lose sometimes it's just guys you're not, you know,

511
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 6: doing what they're supposed to do. Like they may have

512
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 6: a lot of talent, but if you don't do what

513
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 6: you're supposed to do all the time, like then you're

514
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 6: not You're useless, and you're you're hurting.

515
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 3: The team a lot.

516
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 6: So I you know, I love Drew and I you know,

517
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 6: I know he doesn't get a lot of credit for

518
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 6: hardly anything, and which he understands that. We understand our

519
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 6: roles tight ends. We're not that's not we're we're not

520
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 6: here to try to get a whole bunch of attention.

521
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 6: We're trying to just do our job. And you know,

522
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 6: similar to the offensive line, where you're not giving the

523
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 6: offense line credits on a bunch of stuff, but they're

524
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 6: really really valuable for everything within our offense. And just

525
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 6: like first second down, you got to be able to

526
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 6: run the ball, obviously, and you can't just be a

527
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 6: guy as a tight end. It's really hard to be

528
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:53,920
Speaker 6: a guy as a tight end if you're out there

529
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 6: in a normal situation on first second down and you're

530
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 6: not you can't block or and you can't do certain things.

531
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Speaker 3: The defense knows that smart too.

532
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 6: There's a lot of money that goes into a lot

533
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,680
Speaker 6: of work, so they can scheme you up to know that, Okay,

534
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 6: we don't have to worry about this run scheme or

535
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 6: this past text of scheme. We can blitz this guy

536
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 6: or our d line can be in a straight past

537
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 6: rush mode on first and ten. When you got a

538
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 6: guy that can do everything and you got an above

539
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 6: average blocker that adds a huge value to your.

540
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 2: Offense, it seems like Rooky eric All is one of

541
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: those guys. Many people speculated that he wouldn't even be

542
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 2: playing at this point after tearing his ACL in October.

543
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 2: He's not only playing, he's getting rave reviews from his teammates.

544
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 2: Are you at all surprised by his growth at this stage.

545
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:33,719
Speaker 3: Of his career.

546
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 6: No, I was, you know, watching this film in college

547
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 6: and then when we drafted him, I was. I was

548
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,719
Speaker 6: really surprised that he was there when we drafted him

549
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 6: in the fourth round, even with the injuries, just because

550
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 6: his film was that good and just talking to him

551
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 6: pre draft and just getting to know the person. He's

552
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 6: a uniquely like you know, you know, probably everybody can

553
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 6: see like how aggressive he is like and he plays

554
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 6: physical and that's just the person. Like, there's not a

555
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 6: lot of people in the world that are just that aggressive,

556
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 6: that are that will you know, they got pads on

557
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 6: the stuff, but still some guys will kind of they'll

558
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 6: they'll go in there a little timid, like he definitely

559
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 6: not timid, Like he'll go hit people.

560
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 3: Those kind of things.

561
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 6: You can't coach the guys that are just that that

562
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 6: kind of aggression to them, and they're and that kind

563
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 6: of toughness and.

564
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 3: The injury stuff.

565
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 6: That's that's one of those as a coach that's kind

566
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 6: of out of your out of my you know, above

567
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 6: my pay grade. I just evaluate the players and when

568
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 6: we get him, I just try to coach the best

569
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 6: I can.

570
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 3: And he but he's he's.

571
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 6: Proven to be a really really tough, tough dude, like

572
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 6: to be able to come back that fast from his

573
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 6: injury and to step into practice right away and start,

574
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 6: you know, and not be timid with things. And and

575
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 6: he's he's a he's a really intelligent guy too too,

576
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 6: you know, he's he's they're all got different personalities, so

577
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 6: he's he's much different than Drew, much different than Mike.

578
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 6: So he you know, like when you're talking to him,

579
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 6: you know, but he's a really smart guy too. You

580
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 6: got to be smart to be able to know all

581
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,959
Speaker 6: this stuff, and he puts a lot of work into it.

582
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 6: And it is I I'm biased, but I think a

583
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 6: rookie tied end is one of the hardest things to do,

584
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 6: like in the NFL, because there's so many things I

585
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 6: got to know, special teams wise, and for him to

586
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 6: go out there and to perform like he's done so far,

587
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 6: like it's you know, gives me a lot of excitement

588
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 6: for the future and just for him to keep building.

589
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 6: And I think it's you know, it's evident when you

590
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 6: look at him, like he's got a chance to be

591
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 6: a really really good player if he did. But it's

592
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 6: you got to be consistent, you got to you got

593
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 6: to stay motivated, you got to understand all the nuance

594
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 6: to the position.

595
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 3: And he's well on his way.

596
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 6: But it's you know, it's game to game right now

597
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 6: as a rookie and as he establishes himself and then

598
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 6: you know, then we'll see how good he can actually be.

599
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: Do you feel like he was a steel in the

600
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 2: fourth round?

601
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 5: Oh?

602
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I thought right away, Like I was, like,

603
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 6: I was like baffled, that he was still there in

604
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 6: the fourth round. But that's again it's above my pay grit.

605
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 6: I'm just watching the guys, like but I've been doing

606
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 6: this for like the last six years, watching everybody and

607
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 6: seeing where they get drafted, and and just like self evaluating,

608
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 6: like which guy's got drafted, which round that ended up

609
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 6: being good? So for him to follow that far, I

610
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 6: was like, you know what, you know, maybe you know,

611
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,479
Speaker 6: as I'm second guessing myself or something, I don't know,

612
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 6: like that he get that he got that late, but

613
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 6: you know, everybody, it wasn't just me, Like Zach loved

614
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 6: him too. And then in the draft process and you know,

615
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 6: our whole off and staff loved him, and in Duke

616
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 6: Tobin and and would that that's what happened, And just

617
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 6: really proud he's picked it up as fasts he has,

618
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 6: and we still got a long way to go, but

619
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 6: he's he's he's well on his way to being a

620
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 6: really good player.

621
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Speaker 2: We're visiting with tight ends coach James Casey. Tanner Hudson

622
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 2: has proven to be a reliable pass catcher. Why do

623
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 2: quarterbacks love throwing to Tanner Hudson.

624
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 6: He's you know, he's a really competitive pass catcher, and

625
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 6: he's really he does a really good job with his

626
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 6: body language of the quarterbacks. No, you know, he's make

627
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 6: sure he identifies to the quarterbacks, like what kind of

628
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 6: angle he's going to take as he comes out of

629
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 6: his break or when he's going to settle in his

630
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 6: own And I used to think that stuff was kind

631
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 6: of silly when I was younger about you know, the

632
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 6: guy he understands owns really well.

633
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:38,719
Speaker 3: It's like, woll how hard is it? You just run

634
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 3: to the spot and you sit down.

635
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 6: But there is a lot that goes into that, like

636
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 6: understanding leverage, understanding like the depth of certain routes and

637
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 6: the timing of it and how you gotta sometimes you

638
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 6: got to, you know, make the quarterback wait on you

639
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 6: to get open. You have to understand how to get

640
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 6: edges on defenders and get him flipped vertically to separate.

641
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 6: You can't just run up and hit him and run

642
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 6: away like you gotta. There's there's a bunch of stuff

643
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 6: that goes into past game stuff too, that he's he

644
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 6: does a really good job at And he's long, you know,

645
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 6: he's long, he's got good hands. And hopefully Tanner comes

646
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 6: back from his injury soon and we can get everybody

647
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 6: back together again. And that way, we got multiple guys

648
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 6: that can go out there and we all can stay

649
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 6: fresh and we all can make plays throughout the game.

650
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: The other Tanner, rookie Tanner McLoughlin, also made the fifty

651
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Speaker 2: three man roster. What gives him the potential to be

652
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Speaker 2: a productive NFL tight end.

653
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Speaker 6: He's big, he's fast, like he ran a good time

654
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 6: for his size. You know, he can run routes. He

655
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Speaker 6: showed he can catch it, catch the ball really well

656
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 6: in college and run for the catch really well. And

657
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 6: those are really really valuable now in the NFL's the

658
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 6: guys that can run for the catch and can make

659
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Speaker 6: the contested catches. And he showed that in college. And

660
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 6: now he's just got to keep progression and he's doing

661
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 6: a great job. But just keep you know, understanding all

662
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 6: the blocking stuff and being the you know, playing nasty

663
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Speaker 6: as a blocker and you know, being a jerk out

664
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Speaker 6: there as a blocker. You have to It's just like

665
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 6: the nature of the job. It's a gentleman's agreement. You

666
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 6: got to be a jerk to be good at a

667
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Speaker 6: tight end. You can't just go out there and getting away.

668
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 6: You gotta be you got to go after people and

669
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Speaker 6: understand like when you can go after people aggressively, and

670
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 6: when you got to you know, play play a little

671
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 6: more cautious because he's about to move or he's a

672
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 6: jump around guy. And but he he's got a potential

673
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 6: to be a great player, and he's doing a great

674
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 6: job right now. He's got good size, good speed, he's

675
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 6: got good feet as a blocker to start with. And

676
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 6: now it's just you know, just put you know, really

677
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 6: like as a tight end. You're you're younger. It's just

678
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 6: putting your face in there, putting your face in there,

679
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 6: putting your face in there until you start feeling like

680
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 6: how it feels to like not lean too far forward,

681
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 6: not be undertowes too much. You know, keep your cleats

682
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 6: in the ground, get your hips in the guys, like

683
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 6: roll your hips on contact strain to finish, like understand

684
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 6: hand placement. But he's getting it, he's getting there, so

685
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 6: you know, we're just gonna he's he's in a great

686
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 6: spot right now to be able to just keep working.

687
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 6: He hasn't gotten in the game, but just keep working,

688
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 6: keep working, because we're gonna need everybody and he's he's

689
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 6: working really hard, doing everything right, and excited for him

690
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 6: to to get out there and get his opportunities at

691
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Speaker 6: some point.

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Speaker 2: This is not a team looking for moral victories. But

693
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Speaker 2: were you encouraged by the performance at Kansas City?

694
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was, you know, because we didn't we didn't

695
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 6: we come out you know, week one. As always you

696
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 6: never know, but we you know, we knew we were

697
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 6: way better than what we did week one, and to

698
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 6: go off, you know, defending super Bowl champions, and you know,

699
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 6: we were very confident going into the game. We knew

700
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Speaker 6: we were gonna respond. We knew we were gonna come

701
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 6: out swinging. They knew it too, and but to see

702
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 6: us actually do it was encouraging that you know, we

703
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 6: were moving the ball, you know, we were we were

704
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 6: making plays, we were converting on third down. Like it

705
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 6: was just we're getting back to like how we are.

706
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 6: And so you it's you're never like moral victories or whatever,

707
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 6: but you do go into next game saying, okay, we

708
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 6: you know, just validate said you know, we know we

709
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 6: can move the ball, we know we can make plays.

710
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 6: We know we got a good offense, we have a

711
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 6: great quarterback, we got great position players we get, you know,

712
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 6: great offensive line, like we just got to go out

713
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 6: there and do our job. It's like gives us confidence,

714
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 6: but it also just you know, just fully transparent to everybody.

715
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 6: We just have to be on top of every little

716
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 6: bit of detail and everybody has to do exactly what

717
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 6: they're supposed to do on every play. And if we're

718
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 6: all doing everything around, all eleven of us, like we're

719
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 6: gonna make plays and we're gonna be really successful, but

720
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 6: all of us have to do it at all times,

721
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Speaker 6: and then we have to be like systematic out there.

722
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 2: Final question for James Casey get a primetime home game

723
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Speaker 2: coming up on Monday against Washington. You've been around the

724
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 2: NFL as a player and a coach. Are night games

725
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 2: here in Cincinnati about as electric as it gets?

726
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 5: Oh?

727
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah.

728
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 6: The I'll never forget when we played Buffalo on whatever

729
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 6: game that was a Monday night or something not whatever

730
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 6: it was when dMar Hamling got hurt. But before that,

731
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Speaker 6: I mean, it was like the most electric crowd I've

732
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 6: ever seen, like in any level. And I played in

733
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Speaker 6: playoff games and we you know, it was the most

734
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 6: electric I've seen, Like you could just feel it in

735
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 6: the on the field. You could feel it, and you

736
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 6: know that our fans do a great job on when

737
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 6: it's when it's not. And now I think now we

738
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 6: got the the lights go on and off kind of

739
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 6: thing like that gets everybody hipped up. Like there's always

740
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 6: some kind of seems like there's always some kind of

741
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 6: you know, like something going on during the game with

742
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Speaker 6: certain colors, or everybody's got glos sticks or something.

743
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Speaker 3: There's it's always something. So it's it is electric atmosphere.

744
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 6: And I think, you know, we catch teams off gard

745
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 6: when they come here because you know they're Cincinnati whatever,

746
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 6: but when they get here, see.

747
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 3: How like the electrical environment is. It's a huge advantage

748
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 3: for us.

749
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Speaker 2: It's going to be a good one against the commanders.

750
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Speaker 2: Best of luck, appreciate your time.

751
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 3: Thank you, Let's keep getting them tons bull.

752
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,480
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758
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Speaker 2: for this week's Know the Faux segment. Last week, the

759
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Speaker 2: final score of Washington's game against the New York Giants

760
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: was twenty one to eighteen. One team scored three touchdowns,

761
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Speaker 2: the other didn't score any, and that was the team

762
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 2: that won. Giants kicker Graham Ganot hurt his hamstring on

763
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 2: the opening kickoff and was done for the rest of

764
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 2: the day. The Giants had their punter attempt the pat

765
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 2: after their first touchdown, and he missed. The next two

766
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 2: times the Giants scored, they went for two and failed.

767
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 2: As a result, three touchdowns added up to eighteen points. Meanwhile,

768
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: the Commanders won the game with seven field goals. Dave

769
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 2: Lapham and I discussed it with Commander's radio voice Bram

770
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Speaker 2: Weinstein on the Bengals Game Plan Show.

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Speaker 5: Maybe the most unusual game I've ever been a part of.

772
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Speaker 5: This is only the fifth time since World War Two

773
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 5: that Washington won a game where they didn't score a touchdown.

774
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 5: You mentioned the three touchdowns for the opponent in Washington

775
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 5: not scoring one. I think it's the first time since

776
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 5: World War Two that that's happened in the regular season

777
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:43,240
Speaker 5: ever anywhere so it was bizarre. The reality is Washington

778
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 5: could have scored forty They scored on every true drive

779
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 5: that they had in two games. They are if they

780
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 5: hadn't had a couple of missfield goals, they would have

781
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 5: scored on twelve or fifteen true drives. I don't count.

782
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 5: I had a kneel down at the end of the

783
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 5: first half, so I don't count that. Seven of seven

784
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 5: true drives they scored the red zone miss aps were

785
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 5: the issue, and it's why they did not end up

786
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 5: with touchdowns. On three occasions they had procedural penalties inside

787
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 5: the five yard line and on two occasions Jim Daniels

788
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 5: tried to extend to play and took a sack. So

789
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 5: it really was the one thing they did wrong on

790
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 5: offense was when they got down in the scoring position.

791
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,439
Speaker 5: They ended up with three. And the really funny part

792
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 5: is this is the fifth kicker they've had here since

793
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 5: the start of the league year, for a variety of reasons,

794
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 5: mainly because of inaccuracies over the last over camp over

795
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 5: the week one and so he had been here for

796
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 5: five days and this is the ninety plus year old

797
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 5: franchise and he broke a single game record by kicking

798
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 5: seven field goals.

799
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Speaker 7: That's crazy. As a former offensive lineman, when I think

800
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Speaker 7: about and look at the Washington Commanders, it comes down

801
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 7: to ninety four in ninety three, Payne and Allen how

802
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 7: they played, so they were the job.

803
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 5: It's double teamed them consistently, so you're not gonna see

804
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 5: a lot of them on the stat seat, you know,

805
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 5: like and that's like a source of that's been a

806
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 5: source of for the fans around here, and this has

807
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 5: been this way for a long time. Like this that

808
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 5: unit is as far as they'll take them, as far

809
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 5: as they go. It's a little different now that Chase

810
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 5: Hung and Monteswett aren't there as well, where that was

811
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 5: really a very strong narrative around here. You know, they've

812
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 5: been run on two weeks in a row. They've been

813
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 5: run up the middle on two weeks in a row,

814
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Speaker 5: the Commanders. You know, coming into the season, one of

815
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 5: the there's two perceived weaknesses on the defense. It's edge

816
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 5: rush because they don't have these premier pass rushers anymore,

817
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 5: and their corners, which is undermanned without Emmanuel Forbes and

818
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 5: one of their weaker position groups to start with. But

819
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 5: the hope was that they would be very good against

820
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Speaker 5: the run with what they have in the middle of

821
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Speaker 5: the field. Between the hash marks Payne Allen, the improvement

822
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Speaker 5: at the linebacking corps with Frankieluvu, Bobby Wagner, Jeremy Chit

823
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 5: and Kwon Martin. They look good between the hash marks.

824
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 5: On paper, it has not been the case. The Buccaneers

825
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 5: and the Giants both ran the ball very effectively against them.

826
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 5: We are concerned about the passing game this week two,

827
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 5: but trust the pain and Alan are hearing it, even if,

828
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 5: like some of the people that analyze the film say,

829
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 5: give them a break. They're fighting off double teams every

830
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:17,240
Speaker 5: other play.

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Speaker 2: Commander's radio voice Bram Weinstein is our guest. Let's talk

832
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Speaker 2: about your Heisman Trophy winning quarterback from lsu Jad and

833
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 2: Daniels statistically looks pretty good, completing three quarters of his

834
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 2: passes so far past the rating of ninety seven. He's

835
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Speaker 2: on a pace to run for more than a thousand yards,

836
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 2: but no touchdown passes yet. How quickly is he processing things?

837
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Speaker 5: So he I would describe the first game in the

838
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 5: first half and this was Tampa Bay, so they blitz

839
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 5: a lot exotic pressures. Todd bowles and he was vacating

840
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 5: the pocket like immediately, so the internal clock was clearly

841
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 5: sped up. We saw a little bit of it, and

842
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 5: I think when you rewatch and you guys prepare for

843
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,479
Speaker 5: the game, you're gonna see it against the Giants too.

844
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 5: That he's using his legs a little, not even a

845
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 5: little bit, more a lot more than the coaches really

846
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 5: want him to. But the good news for them is

847
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 5: instinctually he likes he makes no mistakes with the ball.

848
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 5: He has yet to even come close to turning it over.

849
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 5: All of his decision making is ahead of the curve.

850
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 5: And I kind of describe you know him from day

851
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 5: one because he came in with this like obviously he's

852
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 5: an extremely athletic player, very high ceiling with his ability,

853
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 5: but he came in with this kind of notorious work

854
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 5: ethic and he had done all this work with VR

855
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 5: and he's first in the building, last to leave. But

856
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 5: he hear that about a lot of people, but it's

857
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 5: true in his case. There's this famous story like after

858
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 5: he got drafted and they called him, he said, please

859
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 5: send me the playbook because I want to start reading

860
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 5: it on the plane. And he did, you know, like

861
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 5: so this really matters to him, and it's showing here early.

862
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 5: And I would describe this kind of like I've see

863
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 5: a day where I thought he looked like a rookie,

864
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 5: and he's just improving day to day, game to game,

865
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 5: half to half. Like the internal clock slowed down against Tampa,

866
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 5: it was slowing down against the Giants. He just had

867
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 5: his first game winning drive. You know, they got the

868
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 5: ball back under very odd circumstances because the Giants couldn't

869
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 5: kick a field goal because they get the kicker got

870
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 5: hurt last week. So he got the ball back two

871
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 5: minutes ago. He drives him right down the field and

872
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 5: gets them in field goal range. So had his first

873
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 5: fourth quarter comeback. You know, like everything that's happening so far,

874
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 5: if this is ground zero, we're very excited about what

875
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 5: the future is and what his ability is because the metrics,

876
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 5: the eye test, all of it. He's passing all of

877
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 5: it with flying colors.

878
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 7: So you have a new quarterback. Last year, your quarterback,

879
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 7: howl Sam Howell gets sacked NFL high sixty five times,

880
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 7: rebuilt the offensive line. What's the result.

881
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 5: The result is better and partially because and you know,

882
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 5: I think it's funny. I think when people think about,

883
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 5: you know, the Commanders with what they had a year ago,

884
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 5: they were the highest past the run ratio team in

885
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 5: the NFL, with a weak offensive line and a very young,

886
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 5: inexperienced quarterback and a receiving corps that nobody is particularly

887
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 5: scared of down the field. They don't have the duo

888
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 5: like you guys have, and so this was mismatched badly

889
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 5: early and Hal took a tremendous beating and took a

890
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 5: lot of stacks. And then you know, Cliff Kingsbury comes in,

891
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 5: and I think people have this perception of air raid

892
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 5: and they're gonna spread it out. And if you really

893
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 5: look at the kind of makeup and profile.

894
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: Of the team, you'll see that this.

895
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 5: Is or logically they're going to become more of a

896
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,479
Speaker 5: run team. Obviously their quarterback can run, so there's gonna

897
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 5: be design runs in any game plan every single week.

898
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 5: He may be scrambling a little more than they like,

899
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 5: but there's going to be design runs. How could there

900
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 5: not be with his abilities? Brian Robinson and now Austin Eckler,

901
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 5: who looks like the player from a few years ago,

902
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 5: turned out to be a tremendous tandem. Sam Coby just

903
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 5: got an extension. He's really emerged as their best offensive

904
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 5: lineman by far. They brought in Tyler Biattis from Dallas,

905
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 5: who Dan Quinn knew. They brought in Nick Allegretti from

906
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 5: Kansas City, so they've revamped their offensive line, and so far,

907
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 5: the play calling has led them more towards what felt

908
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 5: logical about what they have on the outside. Maybe not

909
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 5: deep threats, but very physical and willing blockers on the outside,

910
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 5: and it's led to at least in one week, two

911
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 5: hundred yards on the ground. And I don't think anyone

912
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 5: looks at this team and would think that that's what

913
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 5: they're gonna be. And I wouldn't expect that to be

914
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 5: a norm to have numbers like that, But them becoming

915
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 5: closer to fifty to fifty run team at once this

916
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 5: final fifty three came out, and you just look at

917
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 5: the makeup of their roster. It makes too much sense

918
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 5: that they're going to be a power run team and

919
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 5: it's gonna be something you guys are gonna have to

920
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 5: deal with on Monday night. They held the ball for

921
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 5: thirty seven minutes last week. That's the other they help

922
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 5: the ball for thirty seven minutes, and they didn't have

923
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 5: the lead until there were four seconds left. They didn't

924
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 5: turn them all over, had the ball for thirty seven

925
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 5: minutes and barely won. So, you know, we've had a

926
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 5: strange start to this year. But I do think out

927
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,919
Speaker 5: of the road map towards whatever level of success they're

928
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 5: going to have in this kind of whole new program,

929
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 5: it is going to start and end with their run game,

930
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 5: and I think you're gonna see a heavy dose of

931
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 5: it on Monday Night.

932
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Speaker 7: To your point, last year, three and fifty nine rushes.

933
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 7: Three in fifty nine rush attempts by far the fewest

934
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Speaker 7: in the National Football League. That's really an amazing number.

935
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it is. And you know, I don't think the

936
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 5: NFL world knows how good Brian Robinson is.

937
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 3: Like.

938
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 5: He is a very very good, leed, punishing, physical running back.

939
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 5: And the fact that they weren't profiling him when clearly

940
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 5: pass blocking wasn't their strength. Their quarterback was inexperienced, they

941
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 5: don't have a lot of downfield threats on their team.

942
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 5: It made no sense what they were doing last year

943
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 5: and this year, at least from the start, it appears

944
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 5: that they're leaning into who are our best weapons, and

945
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 5: our best weapons are coming out of our backfield one

946
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 5: of three players, Robinson, Daniels, or Eckler. And as things

947
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 5: progress with Daniels, who I think what they really like

948
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 5: about him is he's not justin field, not Kyler. Murray's

949
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 5: not run first like he actually is passed first, but

950
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 5: he's learning on the fly. And I'll go back to

951
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 5: something I said earlier. The internal clock has been a

952
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 5: little sped up here in the first couple of weeks,

953
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 5: but we see it even game the game he slows down,

954
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 5: another feels too big to him. He makes no bad

955
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 5: decisions with the ball, and I just I have to

956
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 5: believe that he's going to become more of an accomplished

957
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 5: passer as things go along. The run game is just

958
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 5: there for support of it right now, but in the

959
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 5: end it probably is their best attribute with the way

960
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 5: that the team is constructed.

961
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 2: The UC Bearkatz made the fourteen Playoff a few years

962
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 2: ago and lost to Alabama. Brian Robinson ran for two

963
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 2: oh four in that game, so Cincinnati knows about Brian Robinson.

964
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 2: Here's my final question for Bram Weinstein, the voice of

965
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: the Commanders, he talked about some the issues on defense.

966
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 2: In week one, Baker Mayfield had a passer rating of

967
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 2: one forty six. Last week Daniel Jones one oh nine.

968
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 2: Which is the bigger problem the lack of pass rush

969
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 2: or poor play in the secondary or is it equal.

970
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,479
Speaker 5: It's a combination. It's definitively a combination. The first week

971
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 5: one again, like we've had a really weird year. Like

972
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 5: if you go to an advanced metric site like Pro

973
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 5: Football Focus, I don't know if you guys care about

974
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 5: that stuff, but like they and this is zel. Just

975
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 5: go watch the Tampa game. They could have sacked Baker

976
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 5: Mayfield six times and they missed five tackles. They didn't

977
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 5: finish the plays. They were winning at the line of

978
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 5: scrimmage and they were graded out that way. They just

979
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 5: didn't finish the plays. And given time, he smoked them,

980
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 5: you know, like, and he was terrific and really executed well,

981
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 5: especially in the red zone against them. He was he

982
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 5: was very good and really kind of was their MVP

983
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 5: of the game because he got it out of what

984
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 5: should have been sex This past week to me is

985
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 5: more an indictment of the weaknesses of this defense. They

986
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 5: were not able to get any kind of sustained pass

987
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 5: rush on Daniel Jones. And when in the pocket, I

988
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 5: know people don't perceive them this way, but we play

989
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 5: him twice a year. You know, when in the Pockety's

990
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 5: actually highly effective and highly accurate if you don't bother

991
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 5: him and move him off his spots. And they didn't,

992
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 5: and Milik Neighbors had a huge day against them, because

993
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 5: we frankly do not have what I would describe as

994
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 5: a quote unquote number one corner who could like lock

995
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 5: up with number one receivers. So this team's got something

996
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 5: to figure out. Like these are the two questions coming

997
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 5: in about the defense. Is their secondary and specifically their

998
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 5: corners good enough and now they're down one of them

999
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 5: in Emmanuel Forbes because he had thumb surgery. And secondarily,

1000
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 5: can they generate a consistent pass rush? They had it

1001
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 5: in week one, they just didn't finish the plays. They

1002
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 5: definitively did not have it in week two. And so

1003
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 5: even though they had the ball for thirty seven minutes

1004
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 5: and never turn the ball over, and we're playing a

1005
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 5: team that couldn't kick a field goal if they wanted

1006
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 5: to because they didn't have a kicker. They barely won,

1007
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 5: and it's attributed to not touring touchdowns and not being

1008
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 5: able to pressure the quarterback when you need to. And

1009
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 5: trust me, we're a little concerned about the opponent this

1010
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 5: week if we're not going to get any pressure on

1011
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 5: that quarterback with that receiving corps.

1012
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 7: Final question for me, and I appreciate you giving us

1013
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 7: so much of your time. The all important special teams

1014
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 7: part of it, Larry Izzo has been around a while.

1015
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 7: Punt returns is only the returner has one, but it's

1016
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 7: a twenty four yard return. I mean he doesn't show

1017
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 7: up in the ranks because he doesn't have enough returns.

1018
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 7: But twenty four yard punt return average is number one

1019
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 7: in the NFL, kickoff return average nine in the National

1020
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 7: Football League. Your top ten in both the return of

1021
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 7: the coverage teams aren't quite as good. Obviously, the punt

1022
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 7: return is tied for thirtieth in the NFL, giving up

1023
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 7: fifteen yards. What about your special teams overall, that all

1024
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 7: important third phase? How is that progressing? Well?

1025
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 5: I mean we're hoping now we found a kicker. Like

1026
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 5: as I told you before that that's been a journey

1027
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 5: throughout the entire offseason into the regular season. They had

1028
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 5: two miss field goals in Week one, but Austin Cyber

1029
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 5: seven for seven, so he's Steth Curry of of.

1030
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 3: The way.

1031
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's that's off to a good start. We

1032
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 5: have a Pro Bowl putter in this way for a

1033
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 5: very long time. We had a snapper situation a year

1034
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 5: ago with Cameron achievement. It was all over the map.

1035
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 5: They they brought in the new snapper, Tylert. Everything's settled there.

1036
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 5: Everything's been perfect so far. Alida Zakias took over the

1037
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 5: punt returns this path week. Jamison Crowder did it in

1038
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 5: the first week. I think you could see either one

1039
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 5: of them, and I think both are very effective. And

1040
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 5: last week they had the opening kickoff was returned for

1041
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 5: a touchdown. It was called back by penalty. Austin Eckler

1042
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 5: is one of our returners. He had a ninety nine

1043
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 5: yard kioff return for a touchdown that was called back

1044
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 5: on a very light call. So, like I would describe

1045
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,799
Speaker 5: it as the special teams outside of the issues with

1046
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 5: the kicker, have really have really gone off very well

1047
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 5: here early and the covered units. There's a couple of

1048
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 5: guys guys that are standing out that really made the team.

1049
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 5: You guys probably have this too, but we had a

1050
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 5: couple undrafted free agents that made the team based on

1051
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 5: how they were covering kicks in camp and it's carried

1052
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 5: over into the regular season.

1053
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 2: All right, thanks to Bram Weinstein. And here's a quick

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00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,279
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