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Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast podcast podcas All right,

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Speaker 1: here we go.

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Speaker 2: Running in the court, ten seconds remaining.

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Speaker 3: So he just goes show under the basket, under the basket,

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Speaker 3: it's the truth for the wind. God make up a miracle.

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Speaker 2: I water hit that.

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Speaker 1: One from a parking lot.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Big Bets on Campus Podcast on Mike

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Speaker 2: Calvary's joint by My Action Network co host christian O,

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Speaker 2: Jack Gian and our man Duck aka Josh Nunn.

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Speaker 1: You can call him Duck, you can call him Josh.

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Speaker 2: Just make sure that you're hitting them up over on

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Speaker 2: Twitter with those handshake emojis because he's been casting a

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Speaker 2: lot of picks here throughout the college hoops season.

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Speaker 1: Guys, how are we feeling at this point?

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Speaker 2: Because I think college basketball is starting to peak, and

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Speaker 2: I mean that in the absolute best way possible. It

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Speaker 2: feels like every single week we're having like a game

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Speaker 2: of the year vibe. You're getting wild games like UMass

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Speaker 2: Coastal Carolina, where people are making shots, you.

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Speaker 1: Get heavyweight fights.

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Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of the major power conferences

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Speaker 2: have been backloaded in terms of some of these setups

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Speaker 2: and some of these critical matchups.

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Speaker 1: It's been phenomenal.

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Speaker 2: It's a sport where Iowa State can lose the TCU,

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Speaker 2: turn around beat Kansas then get into fifteen. Round about

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Speaker 2: with you said, just all of it is kind of

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Speaker 2: overflowing with how great the product is on the floor,

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Speaker 2: and then off the floor, we're gonna get into some

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Speaker 2: coaches being some real pricks, and some people arguing with

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Speaker 2: the media, arguing with their own team, throwing players out

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Speaker 2: of their own game. Like college basketball is getting testy,

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Speaker 2: and I think the pressure is bringing out the best

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Speaker 2: in this sport.

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Speaker 1: And we haven't even made it to March yet.

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Speaker 2: So I'll go to you first, Christian, Is there anything

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Speaker 2: in particular right now, high level that you are focused

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Speaker 2: in on, player, coach, theme, conference title race, anything like

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Speaker 2: that at this point in the season.

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Speaker 1: I remember, this is a safe space.

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Speaker 4: You know what pisses me off most of all.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you're randing now.

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Speaker 4: Baby, I ran why not? You gotta let it out somehow, Well,

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Speaker 4: real quick. The fact that we're getting Michigan Duke and

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Speaker 4: Houston Arizona, even though Arizona's a little missing two of

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Speaker 4: the top eight guys. It's just nuts. These four teams

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Speaker 4: all were plus seven to fifty or better to win

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Speaker 4: the title. Last time I checked a couple days ago,

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Speaker 4: So like we're really getting a Final four sneak peek

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Speaker 4: on Saturday, the same day we're getting the top sixteen

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Speaker 4: teams of the tournament announced. So fun times around the corner.

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Speaker 1: Duck question for you. I know that you have stood

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Speaker 1: up for Doug Gottlieb.

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Speaker 2: You're basically a man on an island in that regard,

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Speaker 2: but let's just talk brass X.

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Speaker 1: They got a winning record in the Horizon this year.

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Speaker 2: It looks like they've kind of embodied a bit of

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Speaker 2: His tenure did not get off to a great start.

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Speaker 2: It seems like he was a media member pretending to

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Speaker 2: at least that he deserves to be at this level

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Speaker 2: of basketball. And then you have the rants over the

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Speaker 2: technical ripping up the refs, but I would argue in

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think that the comments warranted a suspension.

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Speaker 3: I thought he was fiery. I thought that he spoke

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Speaker 3: Doug Gottlieb has done an insane job with the Green

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Speaker 1: He quit his radio show.

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Speaker 3: He's trying to eliminate some of the outside distractions to

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Speaker 3: He just wants a game to be called fairly. And

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Speaker 3: I kind of understand the grape. I want a coach

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Speaker 3: Doug Gottlieb genuinely does care. And I really respect that

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Speaker 3: about what he's doing. I'd be pissed off too. It

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was ninety percent correct. Absolutely, he

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Speaker 2: did not deserve to be suspended. I was telling Duck

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Speaker 2: a nice surprise. Went back watch the full replay. He

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Speaker 1: I think he's right. I think you know, in totality,

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Speaker 2: If there's eight or nine coin flips and they all

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Speaker 2: go the way of Milwaukee in that game, it was

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Speaker 2: the difference maker there. But he never questioned the ethics

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Speaker 1: He was just pointing to specifics.

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Speaker 2: The only thing that I'll bristle out a little bit,

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Speaker 2: and this is kind of unique to basketball as opposed

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Speaker 2: ref that tecked him up basically stayed away from him

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Speaker 1: Minutes of that game. What else do you want him

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Speaker 2: Do you want him to like get into more of

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Speaker 2: of reasonable. Like in reality, I don't think that referee

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Speaker 2: should be in constant communication with coaches as a gambler,

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Speaker 2: as a fan, I just want them to call the

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Speaker 1: Here's what I was thinking.

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Speaker 2: Or you didn't see this, or he actually had position,

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Speaker 2: It's like, just call the game, you know, and The

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Speaker 2: Grease the referees, they work them, they end up getting

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Speaker 1: There's a reason why.

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Speaker 2: Certain teams always seem to get certain calls, and usually

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Speaker 2: it's tied to the gravitas of the coach, but also

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Speaker 2: just how you are as a communicator using you know,

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Speaker 2: I would just prefer to see the refs, you know,

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Speaker 2: if it was just bumped up to like a conference

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Speaker 2: commissioner being answerable to you know, some of these critiques

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Speaker 2: and to say that we blew this call or we're

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Speaker 2: you know, how referees are earning their keep to be

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Speaker 1: I mean, do you agree with that duck or is

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Speaker 1: this totally one side in your opinion?

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Speaker 4: Well, real quick, did Doug get his question answered? What

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Speaker 4: he did wrong to get the tech? He did not.

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Speaker 2: He didn't get it from the referees that night, and

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Speaker 2: he didn't get it from the conference allf.

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Speaker 4: If you're gonna give him a suspension, like, at least

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Speaker 4: I hope on the side, at least privately, there was

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Speaker 4: something addressed like, look, we have to suspend you because

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Speaker 4: He's like, I didn't do the things that if you do,

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Speaker 2: I think it's kind of like an old school Bookiey

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Speaker 2: Cousins situation where it's like he's kind of got a

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Speaker 2: he didn't do anything demonstrative, he didn't put his hands

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Speaker 1: I think in most cases it's not fair.

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Speaker 2: I watched enough NBA games where Boogie would do you know,

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Speaker 2: refs also have these egos that get low in the

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Speaker 2: rotating in and out, and that's fine, but that's not

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Speaker 2: the case. It's clear that something agitated the ref so

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Speaker 2: much to be able to tee him up in the spot.

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Speaker 1: Any final thoughts stuck, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, I think he deserves an explanation. When Gottlieb is

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Speaker 3: part of that rant goes through the three different elements

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Speaker 3: that generally trigger a technical foul and he didn't do

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Speaker 3: any of that, I would want an explanation.

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Speaker 1: And truly, I think I agree.

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Speaker 3: With your sentiment for the most part, but I think

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Speaker 3: that the referees need to be accountable to blatantly missed

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Speaker 3: he spit on the ground the wrong way. What was

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Speaker 3: it like? Give me something as to why I'm being disciplined?

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Speaker 2: Here some breaking news. JT toppin ac injury out for

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Speaker 2: the season. I just want to get your quick thoughts

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Speaker 2: on this. Texas Tech straw and dead without him. He

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Speaker 2: was you know somebody who I know that Boozer is

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Speaker 2: running away with the National Player of the Year awards,

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Speaker 2: but he was certainly in an All American conversation at

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Speaker 2: least second team, and they just don't have a player

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Speaker 2: a sad time for the fans in Northwest Texas. Any

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Speaker 2: Is there anything that mccauslin can can do in terms

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Speaker 4: I'm sniffling because I'm sick, but I'm also actually very

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Speaker 3: I think it's a disaster for Texas Tech. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Why are the Navy midshipman a potential Cinderella Darling in

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's been since nineteen ninety eight that the

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Speaker 3: But if they do that right now, they're slotted at

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for the better part of like eight straight years,

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Speaker 1: And I think Navy's clearly the only shot that the

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Speaker 1: to Mick Cronin.

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Speaker 2: You know, I was worried coming off a college football

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Speaker 2: after Trent Dilferd was unceremoniously shitcans by UAB and I

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Speaker 2: But the last two and a half years, he's fifty

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Speaker 1: His entire career.

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Speaker 2: That's when in that weird post COVID year where he

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Speaker 1: Five million a year.

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Speaker 2: But all he does being in a blue blood with

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Speaker 1: To the Big Dance.

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Speaker 2: But you know, backing up cronin one trick pony in

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Speaker 2: terms of being snarky, being bitter, playing the I live

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Speaker 2: but it wasn't something or as malicious where it came

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Speaker 2: But your real job is when thing the chips are

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Speaker 1: I take this one seriously. This is ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: If you were in corporate America and you talked away,

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Speaker 1: He's clearly not focused on that.

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Speaker 2: It's one of the easiest things in the world to

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Speaker 2: the fuct You have media training, Mick, you can just say, no,

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Speaker 2: we don't think about it, or everywhere we play in

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Speaker 2: you can say that's a dumb question. No, I don't

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Speaker 1: You don't continue to push on this guy and push

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Speaker 2: You should take it as a compliment, basically telling him

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Speaker 2: There's nothing more frustrating. And this is for everyone listening

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Speaker 2: You can't get angrier at that point. And the difference

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Speaker 1: You do such a tough guy, Mick, Oh yeah, but

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Speaker 2: You're so cool. I am so frustrated for the reporter.

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Speaker 2: I've never had secondhand frustration to this level. Your softest baby,

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Speaker 2: shit Mick and I've had it with this guy. I

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Speaker 2: I hope the committee puts him on a goddamn plane

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Speaker 1: Gonna lose the same way. They've lost on the eies

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Speaker 2: This entire year on the road in Big Ten play,

437
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Speaker 2: they've lost by an average of seventeen points per game.

438
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Speaker 2: I cannot wait for them to take an ol straight

439
00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,440
Speaker 2: up and against the spread. I'm gonna fade this guy

440
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Speaker 2: until the wheels fall off. I've had enough of you.

441
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Speaker 1: But also, in a weird way, I'm.

442
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Speaker 2: Glad you're part of college basketball because it brings out

443
00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,440
Speaker 2: these emotions and I don't get to hate watch people

444
00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,440
Speaker 2: all that often, and there's not that many people that

445
00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,440
Speaker 2: are you know, a convenient atm when it comes to

446
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Speaker 2: betting against them on the road.

447
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Speaker 1: You were that guy. Guys, feel free to jump in.

448
00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,640
Speaker 2: I know that I don't want to hoggle this mixed

449
00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,520
Speaker 2: spotlight because he basically was the number one person on

450
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Speaker 2: the internet today after going viral last night.

451
00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,760
Speaker 3: I thought it, frankly, it was embarrassing content. I thought

452
00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:30,680
Speaker 3: that Mick behaved so childish in the game situation where

453
00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,520
Speaker 3: he throws his own player out of the arena and

454
00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,359
Speaker 3: then afterwards when berating the reporter and continuing to just

455
00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:41,199
Speaker 3: press and press and press on this. This guy has

456
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Speaker 3: not been a head coach for just six months and

457
00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,520
Speaker 3: this is his first season interacting with media. He's been

458
00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:51,160
Speaker 3: around the rink so many times in his career, which

459
00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:55,399
Speaker 3: spans what I mean, twenty years now, and to treat

460
00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,920
Speaker 3: another person this way when this guy, like you said,

461
00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,680
Speaker 3: Mike is just asking a simple question, it is the

462
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,879
Speaker 3: easiest question in the world to deflect. We were focused

463
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,800
Speaker 3: on that or I didn't factor for us or anything else,

464
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,879
Speaker 3: and then just bury it, move on. But he really

465
00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,560
Speaker 3: went after that young reporter and that was really sad

466
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,720
Speaker 3: to see. I thought it was frankly, it was embarrassing.

467
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Speaker 4: Yeah, one ironic note, I think when adae Mar decided

468
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,760
Speaker 4: to transfer to Michigan, I was like, Wow, he really

469
00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:28,240
Speaker 4: went from the angriest, most intense old school whatever you

470
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,359
Speaker 4: want to call it in terms of the way he

471
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,480
Speaker 4: speaks with and interacts with his players and approaches coaching

472
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 4: to Dusty May, who's like kind of in my opinion,

473
00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,960
Speaker 4: the poster child of this next wave of not coaching

474
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,520
Speaker 4: like that and being like psychologically in tune and stuff,

475
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 4: and for a Daimar to go at Mackie and put

476
00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 4: up a double double and play a great game and

477
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 4: not only that, have a great season when Mick Croden

478
00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,920
Speaker 4: got nothing out of him for two years. Basically for Mick,

479
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,880
Speaker 4: who has a great team, I really like the personnel

480
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,119
Speaker 4: and the CCLA team. I think they have no excuse

481
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,879
Speaker 4: to not be a better team. It's on him. And

482
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 4: I've given him the benefit of the doubt in the

483
00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,880
Speaker 4: past couple of years. You know, like when two years

484
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,200
Speaker 4: ago they had that season where they missed the tournament

485
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,920
Speaker 4: and he was starting to become the press conference guy

486
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 4: who was just always angry, always complaining. That was the

487
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 4: last year the Pac twelve. That was when you know,

488
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 4: everything started to turn in. And I will say the

489
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 4: one I kind of just cut myself off there, but

490
00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 4: I guess I'm saying that was when it started to

491
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 4: turn of like I'm not giving him the benefit of

492
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,919
Speaker 4: the doubt of oh but his players love him, Oh

493
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,360
Speaker 4: but he's a winner. Now you're not winning. I don't

494
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:30,639
Speaker 4: know how your players can love you when you do

495
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 4: something ubsurd like throwing Jamerson out, which did not look

496
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 4: like Emstos player. I agree with you. There's a photo

497
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 4: of and it's like, sure it's a it's a runaway,

498
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,960
Speaker 4: you're down big, you don't need to even try, But

499
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,400
Speaker 4: like it was not a militia. We've seen way worse

500
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:48,120
Speaker 4: fallas this year. But yeah, I guess the one concessional

501
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 4: give him is when he joined at UCLA to do

502
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 4: this job, Like he comes there during COVID takes in

503
00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,560
Speaker 4: the Final four in the second year. He didn't think

504
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:57,639
Speaker 4: he was gonna have to go to the Big ten

505
00:21:57,680 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 4: and do all this travel stuff. So I understand it

506
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 4: being upset this job in college basketball hadn't become what

507
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 4: it was. But then maybe it's it's time to move on,

508
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 4: right Maybe maybe you know the game is has passion

509
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,959
Speaker 4: of it. If he can't control his anger, the way

510
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 4: that he coached the Cincinnati and the way that he

511
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 4: coached his tenure at UCLA, the way he coaches back

512
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 4: at Murray State, like that's not the way it is

513
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 4: right now, and I think it's a really bad look

514
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 4: of him and for him to continue to act like

515
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 4: it's okay because of his results like I don't think

516
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 4: that's we live in a different world. Like I just

517
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 4: don't think it is okay really the same way anymore.

518
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 2: He can leave, there's nothing stopped. People break contracts all

519
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 2: the time. You don't want to, you know, travel that

520
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 2: far go coach in the NEC for all I care.

521
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 2: Like this idea that it's impossible and that no one

522
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 2: can make it work.

523
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: It's like, I think it's just a mindset.

524
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 2: I think he's absolutely titled and spoiled, and he gets

525
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 2: paid way more money than he has delivered. Like you

526
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 2: can talk all about you know his win percentage, and

527
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 2: you know the consistency of generally how he plays in

528
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 2: conference and everything else. But this job and legacies all

529
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 2: come down to March Madda. And whether you're Bobby Knight

530
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,919
Speaker 2: or Jim Beheim or coach k they all had their

531
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,479
Speaker 2: moments where they're prickly with the press or they kind

532
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 2: of had a god complex. The difference is you got

533
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 2: to cut down the nets, you gotta win the national championship,

534
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 2: You got to go to multiple final fours to get

535
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 2: away with being this much of a dickhead. And like

536
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 2: college sports has been filled with him. Urban Meyer jerk

537
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 2: I think even urban Meyer would agree with that. But

538
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 2: it's like I win, like you know, you get certain

539
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,120
Speaker 2: allowances and you get more buy in from your players

540
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 2: if you were a winner, and he does not win

541
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Speaker 2: enough to be this big of a dick.

542
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Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna stop yelling, we're gonna lean in.

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Speaker 2: We're going to use our indoor voice just in case

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Speaker 2: Mick is listening. Doc talk to me about Arkansas, Little

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Speaker 2: Rock and you T Martin and a projected total on Thursday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so the total is projected about one thirty five

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Speaker 3: and a half.

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Speaker 4: U T.

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Speaker 3: Martin's on their fourth game in seven days and they

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Speaker 3: just lost fifty six to fifty three at home in overtime. Decimo,

597
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 3: I would expect these guys to be a little slow

598
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 3: and maybe a little out of gas here, maybe some

599
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 3: tired legs and some short jumpers in the first half.

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Speaker 3: This is, however, the premier defense in the Ohio Valley Conference,

601
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 3: and it has held its opponents to sixty four points

602
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 3: or less in thirteen conference games this season. When you

603
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 3: look at UT Martin. Per the metrics, they are stunning

604
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 3: on defense. Two point shooting, three point shooting, blocks and

605
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:19,400
Speaker 3: altered shots, steals, turnovers, effective field goal percentage, and efficiency

606
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Speaker 3: all the best in the Ohio Valley Conference for UT Martin,

607
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Speaker 3: and they play considerably at the slowest pace in the conference.

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00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 3: I look at UALR they have slowed the tempo offensively

609
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 3: over the last seven games, and the defense has actually

610
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 3: played a little bit better for Little Rock of late.

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Speaker 3: This is a venue that UT Martin has struggled with

612
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Speaker 3: every time it's been here, and I think we'll see

613
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Speaker 3: a repeat of that, a game that really mirrors the

614
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Speaker 3: first between these two. That game ended fifty five to

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00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 3: fifty two, played at just sixty two total possessions. I

616
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 3: do not anticipate any more than that year.

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Speaker 4: This should be a.

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00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 3: Slow burning grinder if there ever was one. So with

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Speaker 3: a projected total of one thirty five and a half

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Speaker 3: going in.

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Speaker 2: On the under, let's stick on Thursday in the CIA

622
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 2: College of Charleston, traveling to North Carolina A and C.

623
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Speaker 2: At times, NKAT has popped off, and they've played games

624
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 2: in the nineties and been really up and down. College

625
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 2: of Charleston, by the way, I don't know if anyone's

626
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 2: seen it on social media when they anonymously poll coaches,

627
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: what's the best job in low major bid major basketball?

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Speaker 1: Coc is the best job in the CIA.

629
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 2: They have the financial resources, they have the community buy in,

630
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 2: they have the facilities, everything, but it's still difficult to

631
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 2: necessarily take that show on the road shoot at the

632
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 2: same level, have the same kind of efficiency. What are

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00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 2: you expecting in this Thursday night one out of the CIA.

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00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 3: Well, really, what it comes down to for Charleston is

635
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 3: they've struggled offensively since their second leading scorer, Connor Hickman,

636
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 3: was ruled ineligible for the rest of the season. Without

637
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 3: him in three games, sixty four points against UNCW, sixty

638
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 3: two against Ostra, and sixty two against Campbell, all while

639
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 3: slowing the temple significantly. Charleston started the season playing slow tempo.

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00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 3: They kind of scraped that and went back to what

641
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 3: they had run before, which was more of a high octane,

642
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 3: up tempo scheme. Well, they've completely reverted back to a

643
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 3: slower tempo. And then I look at North Carolina A

644
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 3: and T. They have also slowed their tempo down significantly

645
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 3: from the start of the season. As this offense. Francat

646
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 3: is just in such disarray, and Charleston has a much

647
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 3: better defense than people realize. I would anticipate that North

648
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 3: Carolina A and T struggles to procure paint touches or

649
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 3: trips to the foul line. This is a bad shooting

650
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 3: team that cannot be relied upon to make shots. I

651
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 3: think it's a defensive first game with a slower pace

652
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Speaker 3: than the seventy one possessions that we saw in the

653
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: first meeting. I project about sixty seven total possessions, and

654
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 3: I just don't think the books have caught up to

655
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 3: how badly College of Charleston is struggling offensively right now.

656
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 3: Charleston should win this game. First meeting had one hundred

657
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 3: and forty total points. I think that's what we'll see here.

658
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 3: With a projected total of one hundred and forty eight

659
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 3: and a half, we're going under let's stick.

660
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: On Thursday.

661
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 2: I talked two weeks ago about Utah Ballley now ineligible

662
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 2: for the Whack Conference championship game.

663
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: Cannot go to March madness. What does that do to

664
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: a team psychologically?

665
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 2: We ended up popping right in taking Abileen Christian plus

666
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: thirteen and a half, they win by the hook. I'm

667
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 2: going right back to it. I like cal Baptists plus

668
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 2: seven or a better here on the road. A big

669
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: part of this is that I want teams that can

670
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 2: win on the road, that aren't necessarily dependent on knocking

671
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 2: down perimeter shots, that can get offensive rebounds, and can

672
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 2: play really good defense.

673
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: The Lancers are the top rated defense in the Whack.

674
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 2: They got the player of the year in the Whack

675
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: and point guard Dominique Daniels, and as I said, the

676
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 2: offensive rebounding is maybe the best in all of low

677
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: major hoops their top ten and a few of those

678
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,959
Speaker 2: metrics there. So a lower scoring game, you don't need

679
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 2: the threes to fall, and if they're not hitting their jumpers,

680
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 2: I still see them grabbing twelve to fifteen offensive boards

681
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 2: in this one. And Daniels can always play hero ball,

682
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 2: by the way, he scored sixty one points in his

683
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 2: last two games, and he cooked Utah Valley on his

684
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: home floor in an outright win, scoring forty seven points

685
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 2: in their first meeting, a win in overtime.

686
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: So I look at this. You know both of them,

687
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: you know recently.

688
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: Lost by less than two possessions against Utah Tech I

689
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: think they're very close in terms of the comps. So,

690
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 2: like I said, anything above two possessions, I'm hoping to

691
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 2: get seven and a half or eight in this one.

692
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 2: But I just think this is an opportunity for a

693
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 2: Utah Valley team that's going to lose focus and lose

694
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: steam a little bit, whereas cal Baptist has an opportunity

695
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 2: and an insight track to the number one seed in

696
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 2: the WACK Conference tournament if they win this one, because

697
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 2: the schedule really lightens up at the end of the

698
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 2: year for the Lancers. All Right, Christian, let's hop to

699
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 2: a game on Friday. We're looking at Indiana at Purdue.

700
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 2: I like the boiler Makers laying the points. But first,

701
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: talk to me about a player prop that you've been

702
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 2: red hot on. Really, player props you've been bringing to

703
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 2: the table last two weeks evolved in cash in.

704
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, the player props has been fun. I agree that

705
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 4: produe is going to get this downe. I just don't

706
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 4: know how much the tax is going to be on

707
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 4: that number. It's probably going to be three or four

708
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 4: points more than Kem Palm. Like, I wouldn't be surprised

709
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 4: if that gets up to like twelve or thirteen. Anyways,

710
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 4: Trey coffin RHN has been hooping. Michigan's approach last night

711
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 4: was go getting in fishing thirty points TKR, like we're

712
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 4: gonna stay home on the shooters. But another thing was

713
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 4: Purdue when they played Indiana and lost at Assembly Hall.

714
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 4: They rode t Gear on that one. He had twenty

715
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 4: three points, took fourteen shots, won only five to ten

716
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 4: from the line. But the big thing that stands out

717
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 4: to me is Matt Paynter set up to the game

718
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 4: like and he said this other times too, like going

719
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 4: small with TKR at the five was their best option

720
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 4: because KLUFF has really struggled lately, honestly, and Jacobsen hasn't

721
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 4: been great either, Like they're still gonna rock with having

722
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 4: one of those guys out there most of the time.

723
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 4: But down the stretch when they made the comeback in

724
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 4: Indiana from I think they were down as much as fifteen,

725
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 4: and they made it a one posision game late it

726
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 4: was riding TKR and it was playing small. So I

727
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 4: think we'll probably get a line around nineteen and a half,

728
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 4: and I would I think Tigar. I think it's a

729
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 4: monster game. I think he scores twenty five for more

730
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 4: and in Indiana front court. That also in a game

731
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 4: where they beat Oregon by twenty, Nate Biddle had fifteen,

732
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 4: took fourteen shots, took thirteen free throws with just with

733
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 4: guys like Read Bailey, Intugrative Reeze was guarding TKR in

734
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 4: that game. So I just think TKR will feast.

735
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 2: I agree with your assessment, Christian. I think it's going

736
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 2: to be probably perdue minus twelve and a half. Mackie's

737
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 2: going to be on fire for this when they're coming

738
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 2: off a humbling loss to Michigan where they made a

739
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 2: little bit closer in the second half, but they weren't

740
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 2: really in a position to threadn the Wolverines at all

741
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 2: down the stretch.

742
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: They lose an assembly Hall of the Hoosiers earlier this year.

743
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 2: This is a spot I think for Purdue to play

744
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 2: their best basketball in Indiana, by the way, on the

745
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: road lost by twenty to Illinois, fourteen at Michigan, twenty

746
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: one at Michigan State nine at Minnesota. You can beat

747
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 2: them up and cover big numbers when they're taking their

748
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: show on the road. Matt Painter also I had this

749
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 2: one circled one of the best coaches in America against

750
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 2: the spread coming off a loss. Since he started at

751
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: Purdue in two thousand and five, he's covered fifty six

752
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 2: percent of the time, which is the seventh best rate

753
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 2: among Power Conference teams in the past twenty one years.

754
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: So he's always cooking at home in West Lafayette. And

755
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 2: perhaps the Bulletmakers are due for a little three point

756
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 2: regression from their opponents recent games against Michigan and Rasco.

757
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 2: Those two teams shot it combined forty six percent from three.

758
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 2: The Hoosiers also made twelve triples in their first meeting,

759
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 2: So I think a little regression could go a long

760
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 2: way in terms of a runout here for a big

761
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 2: Purdue victory.

762
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: All right, back to you, Duck.

763
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 2: Let's go to Saturday Maryland Eastern Shore Coppin State. Another

764
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: game that is at the bottom of the board but

765
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 2: potentially has a ton of value in your opinion.

766
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a grotesque game, but with a projected total

767
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: of one thirty three and a half, you have two

768
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 3: offenses that rank three fiftieth and three sixty first nationally

769
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 3: in offensive efficiency in Eastern Shore is bottom five nationally,

770
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 3: and operating tempo the first matchup saw Maryland Eastern Shore

771
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 3: win a seventy to sixty seven game that had these

772
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 3: two awful foul shooting teams, by the way, combined to

773
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 3: make thirty eight out of forty from the foul line,

774
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 3: and it was a second half that saw forty seven

775
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 3: points In the final ten minutes, the game was trending

776
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 3: under and it became a foul fest where really just

777
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 3: neither team was able to miss foul shots. We have

778
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 3: seen foul shooting percentages from either one of those two

779
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 3: teams that have come anywhere anywhere close to what we

780
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,439
Speaker 3: saw in this first game. Beyond that, copp and State

781
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,760
Speaker 3: has completely changed the way that these guys are playing,

782
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 3: both their offensive style and their pace. The last four games,

783
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 3: the Eagles had started to try to play some up

784
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 3: tempo and shake some things up, but they have completely

785
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 3: reverted back the other way and they're playing slow pace grinders.

786
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 3: Head coach Larry Stewart has just completely reverted back to

787
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 3: a slower system. The result has been scores of sixty

788
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 3: five to forty seven against Delaware State, fifty eight to

789
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 3: fifty six against North Carolina Central, and earlier this week

790
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 3: fifty nine to fifty seven against South Carolina State. Maryland

791
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 3: Eastern Shore wants this game in the low sixties, and

792
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 3: this might be played at fifty eight or fifty nine

793
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 3: total possessions. Both of these teams want to play a

794
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 3: very slow game. Neither one of these teams is going

795
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,720
Speaker 3: to shoot very well. If we see forty foul attempts,

796
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 3: I will bet that thirty eight them do not go

797
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 3: in this time around with a projected total one thirty

798
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 3: three and a half has to be an under. I

799
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 3: think both these teams could be in the fifties.

800
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 2: Let's turn to the Big twelve Christian Looking at Arizona

801
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 2: and Houston, I always chuckle. Somebody posted casual fans tuning

802
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 2: in for Iowa State Houston excited about some high end

803
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 2: basketball and it's just a video of that hybrid sport

804
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,760
Speaker 2: where it's like rugby and basketball at the same time.

805
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 1: And they're slamming into each other.

806
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 2: Do you think that Houston's going to be able to

807
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 2: impose their tempo a little bit slower, definitely more physical

808
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 2: against a shorthanded Arizona team, And if so, how does

809
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 2: that impact the total in your opinion?

810
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 4: Yeah? So, kempom has that one forty three. The reason

811
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 4: I'm looking under is, well, let's go back to last

812
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 4: year when these two teams played two. They played twice

813
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 4: last year, it was seventy two sixty four in a

814
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 4: sixty two to fifty eight game. Arizona's best when they're running,

815
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 4: you know, twenty sixth in the nationally in tempo, and

816
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 4: Houston wants to play a half court game, they're three

817
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 4: hundred fifty fifth. If I'm to guess who is more

818
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 4: likely to enforce their tempo, one, I'm leaning towards the

819
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 4: home team in Houston. But two, Houston doesn't turn it over,

820
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 4: so you don't turn it over. I do think Arizona's

821
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 4: going to be able to keep houston off the offensive glass,

822
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 4: because I mean, you have a walk, you have crevas.

823
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 4: No Pete hurts. I think there is there is a

824
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 4: world where Houston just kind of hoops and wins this

825
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 4: game by double digits, and that's the reason it goes over,

826
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 4: because Houston just just outplays them. But I'm not, you know,

827
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 4: panicking on Arizona just because they lost a couple of games,

828
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 4: or because they're missing Pete and Aristote, like there's still

829
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 4: an elite basketball team. I just think it's going to

830
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 4: be slow and gritty and grimy, and I think Houston

831
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 4: wins this game in the sixties. And I don't even

832
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 4: know if Arizona hit sixty, I think it could be

833
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 4: tough for them.

834
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 2: All right, let's hop back in time to Friday Nights,

835
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 2: another MAC basketball game. I love the Mid Americans TV

836
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 2: structure where they're trying to put some of their best

837
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 2: games on Friday Night to get a national audience. You

838
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 2: have a team that's still undefeated in Miami of Ohio

839
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 2: hosting Bowling Green. But lost in this undefeated storyline for

840
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 2: the RedHawks is that they've been an absolute atm in

841
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 2: terms of totals, cashing overs at the seventh highest rate

842
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 2: in all of college basketball over seventy percent cash rate.

843
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: And now Bowling Green comes into town, they're on the

844
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 2: opposite side of the spectrum. Seventy percent of their games

845
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 2: have cashed the under The thing, though, is they have

846
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 2: average tempo and a top one hundred defense per Kenpom,

847
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 2: so it makes sense that this number is probably going

848
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 2: to settle in in the mid one fifties.

849
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 1: I'm hoping a little bit closer to one to fifty three,

850
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 1: but I played up to one fifty five. And here's

851
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: the reason.

852
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 2: When bowling Green has been sped up this year against

853
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: akron UMass, Kents, Miami of Ohio, Javante Campbell has just

854
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 2: decided to get in his bag and just fire up

855
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 2: as many shots as possible. He's got a full on

856
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,959
Speaker 2: green light. Against akron UMass and Kent, he averaged twenty

857
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 2: seven points per game on fifteen shots per game. But

858
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 2: here's the crazy stat in terms of his overall aggressiveness

859
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: in those games against the up tempo teams from the MAC,

860
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 2: He's averaged fifteen foul shots per game out of a guard.

861
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 2: So you can see just how much he can impact

862
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 2: the game by putting it on the deck, putting his

863
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: head down and get into the foul line. Now, when

864
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 2: they went up against Miami in their their first matchup

865
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 2: that round one, one hundred and seventy six total points,

866
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 2: they overcash with ease, and Campbell was an efficient seven

867
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 2: for eleven from the field. I think Miami has no

868
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 2: reason whatsoever to slow this one down. They have all

869
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 2: the shooters everywhere, They're playing with increased confidence. I thought

870
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 2: there was an opportunity to snipe them with UMass on

871
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 2: the money line and over earlier in the week. That

872
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 2: one didn't materialize, but it did go over. So I

873
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: think this continues to be, you know, Miami's world. Everyone's

874
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 2: just you know, trying to go to the deep end

875
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 2: of the pool with them and keep up in terms

876
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 2: of scoring.

877
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: It's not working out.

878
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 2: And I just don't think Bowling Green has the patience

879
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 2: or the you know, the privilege of being able to say,

880
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 2: we're going to slow things down a little bit, play

881
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 2: at our pace, because all of a sudden they're going

882
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 2: to be down by ten fifteen points in this game,

883
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 2: so they're going to have to play catch up and

884
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 2: they're going to have to play faster. So I'm going

885
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: to go over any number below one fifty five and

886
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 2: a half. Let's call it all right, Christian, going to

887
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 2: throw it back to you for Saturday. Looking at an

888
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: SEC matchup between Kentucky and Auburn earlier in the year,

889
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, most of the national media,

890
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 2: casual fans, they made up their mind on Mark Pope

891
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 2: and this UK team. They continually got out of the

892
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 2: gates slow. They're playing some uninspired basketball. In the first half,

893
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 2: they were an interesting play, you know against the spread

894
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 2: and live numbers in the second half. But it seems

895
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 2: to me that this Kentucky team has been a bit

896
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 2: Checkle and Hyde, and the market just hasn't been able

897
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: to get its arms around them effectively. If they're catching

898
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 2: north of a single possession here. Do you think that's

899
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: the value play against Auburn on the planes?

900
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 4: Yes, I do. And Kentucky was on my do not

901
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 4: bet list ever since that Michigan State game at the

902
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 4: Champions Classic. I was so so disappointed in that product.

903
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 4: And then I hammered them when I hammered Gonzaga when

904
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 4: they beat them, and then I was on Indiana when

905
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 4: Kentucky finally like got their bearings and won that one

906
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 4: at home. But they've been impossible to predict. They've just

907
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 4: been a team that I've just been staying away from,

908
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 4: even in spots where I didn't like them. The one

909
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 4: I regret is I should have take Vanderbilt when they

910
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 4: hosted them. Anyways, Kentucky's coming off these two losses. You

911
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 4: lose a home to Georgia, he lose at Florida, But

912
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 4: I like the way they play it against Florida. You

913
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 4: know you only lost my nine. Florida is up to

914
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 4: sixth in Kempong. They're the clear best team in the SEC.

915
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 4: But it's a little bit a bit more about Auburn.

916
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 4: Auburn's lost four in a row. I think they'll win

917
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 4: Assissippi State tonight, but Keishn Hall is like in the dogcast,

918
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 4: like I don't know if he's gonna play the rest

919
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 4: of the year. I've heard some intel there of just

920
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 4: that just not being a good situation, which is him

921
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 4: in the coaching staff. So without him, it's all to

922
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 4: hot Pettiford in a high usage role. He had twenty

923
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 4: nine and seven against Arkansas, which looks good on paper,

924
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 4: but I mean it's in thirty eight minutes, like trying

925
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 4: to create everything in Keishawn Murphy gives you twenty two.

926
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 4: And I like Keishaw Murphy, but he's not a guy

927
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 4: that I really want as like a high usage player.

928
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 4: So Kentucky just has so many guys. They're very talented

929
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 4: and because of this season filled with adversity, right, they've

930
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 4: never lost three in a row, and I don't see

931
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 4: them doing that in this spot. Gainst an Auburn team

932
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 4: that's sliding and personnel wise, like, Kentucky just has a

933
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 4: much deeper team, and you know, if they can make

934
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 4: if Pettiford and Murphy, like if they go for like

935
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 4: twenty five each again like they did in Arkansas, I

936
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 4: still don't even know if it's enough, Like they need

937
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 4: guys like Jovic to step up big. I feel bad

938
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 4: for Stephen Pearl. I don't think a lot of this

939
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 4: is his fallout. I think people are being a little

940
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 4: hard on him. I don't think the team was constructed great,

941
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 4: and I don't think the transition of powers was done well.

942
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 4: But all of this to say, Kentucky, I'm finally getting

943
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 4: I'm betting them for the first time. It's November. I'm

944
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 4: taking them to win out right against Auburn.

945
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 2: Now, before we get out of here, we're gonna run

946
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 2: through our best bets from the show, our favorite play

947
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 2: here at midweek, Duck, you're hitting us up with something new.

948
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 2: Talk to me about a team total.

949
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna go to Oregon State hosting Pepperdine over

950
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 3: the weekend. Pepperdine is two and twelve in league play,

951
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 3: and the Waves have completely quit playing defense. This was

952
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 3: a defense that held Steven F. Austin to sixty three,

953
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 3: Vermont to sixty five. They had played a little bit

954
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 3: of defense earlier on in the season, and Pepperdine had

955
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 3: also played through the first half of the season at

956
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 3: one of the slower tempos in the West Coast Conference.

957
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 3: But all that's been thrown out the window. There's very

958
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 3: little defensive effort its last seven games. Pepperdine has surrendered

959
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 3: eighty four, ninety five, ninety two, eighty three, ninety two,

960
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 3: eighty eight, and eighty nine points in its last seven games.

961
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 3: This is by far the worst defense in the West

962
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 3: Coast Conference. They cannot defend any inside outside action. There's

963
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 3: a real lack of post presence. Oregon State has been

964
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 3: so much more aggressive in getting paint touches for Isaiah

965
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 3: Si Johann Munch Yak Yak, and the Beavers are going

966
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 3: to shred Pepperdine on the interior. This is the last

967
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 3: Saturday home game of the season for Oregon State and

968
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 3: its best chance remaining to get a win at home.

969
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 3: You talk about points in the paint, Oregon State might

970
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 3: have fifty or more in this game. Their team total

971
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 3: is projected at seventy. I like the full game over,

972
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 3: but I really like Oregon States team total to go

973
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 3: over seventy five here.

974
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 2: I'm gonna stick with cal Baptists. I'm hoping to get

975
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: seven or more in this one. At Utah Valley.

976
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: They beat him in the first meeting.

977
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 2: They got the player of the year in Dominique Daniels,

978
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 2: they got the best defense in the whack, and they

979
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 2: have absolute monsters crashing the glass getting them twelve to

980
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 2: fifteen offense rebounds in this one. I think this will

981
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: be a one possession game one way or the other

982
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 2: against a Utah Valley team that is drawing dead, can't

983
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 2: play in the postseason tournament, can't go to the big Dance.

984
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 2: I think emotionally it's going to get more and more

985
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 2: difficult for them to get up for games down the stretch.

986
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 2: All Right, Christian, close us out here with your favorite

987
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: addition to our best bets.

988
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 4: I'm gonna throw TKR back in there. Just as you said.

989
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 4: The player props have been my Bret and Butter. They've

990
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 4: been treating me well, and this is what I feel

991
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 4: really good about it. I'd even consider a combo ho

992
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 4: points rebounds or points rebounds assists, just to concentrate the

993
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 4: you know, the bet on him being extremely productive.

994
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: That will do it.

995
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 2: For this episode of The Big Bets on Camp this podcast,

996
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 2: my special thanks to Mick Cronin for fire me up.

997
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998
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999
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1000
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