WEBVTT - X-Men '97 Surprise Drop!

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<v Speaker 1>Hello.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Jason Concepcion and I'm Rosy Night and

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<v Speaker 2>to me my X ray Vision, our x ray Vision.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the podcast where we dive deep into your

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<v Speaker 2>favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture. We're turning to

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<v Speaker 2>your feeds on a regular cadence in May, but X

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<v Speaker 2>MEN ninety seven is on. We just could not wait

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<v Speaker 2>to share our thoughts with you. In today's special preview episode,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll be talking about some ongoing nerd stuff news, including

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<v Speaker 2>a silver Surfer casting question mark. Rosie has some thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>about whether that is entirely accurate. Disney defends itself from

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<v Speaker 2>a investor uprising, and in the airline Volks, we talk

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<v Speaker 2>about x N ninety seven. Let's go. First up in news,

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<v Speaker 2>Disney fens off their activist investor uprising, Nelson Peltz again

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<v Speaker 2>campaigning for a board seat, has been rebuffed in a

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<v Speaker 2>voter campaign that saw Disney spending some forty dollars on

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<v Speaker 2>marketing to let their investor base, which includes a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of just regular folks who have Disney stock. We saw

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<v Speaker 2>a pr campaign to let them know, hey, you got

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<v Speaker 2>a vote on this, and Bob Eiger and the board

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<v Speaker 2>emerge victorious.

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<v Speaker 3>Your thoughts, Rosie, Well, this is the reason that this

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<v Speaker 3>is interesting is not just because oh it's business news.

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<v Speaker 4>And we love to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 3>But the uprising is being puppet masted by everyone favorite

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<v Speaker 3>novel Disney villain, Ike Palma. So he and Pelts have

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<v Speaker 3>been trying to do this for a long time. Get

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<v Speaker 3>rid of Eiger.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, talk about they don't want any women in movies.

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<v Speaker 3>They hate the woe kagenda.

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<v Speaker 4>Why why did black Panther have to be or we

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<v Speaker 4>don't need it? Yeah, why does that have to happen?

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<v Speaker 3>So honestly, always happy to see these guys taken out.

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<v Speaker 3>Anything that makes Ike Palma are upset makes me happy.

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<v Speaker 2>Get about it here.

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<v Speaker 3>I was actually surprised because I did think with the

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<v Speaker 3>issues that Iers had in recent kind of years, it

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<v Speaker 3>might have been more of a problem during his little

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<v Speaker 3>kind of comeback. It hasn't gone necessarily the way he wanted.

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<v Speaker 3>But Disney had that big they'd actually made a ton

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<v Speaker 3>of money off Marvel and Star Wars in that time,

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<v Speaker 3>No surprises, So yeah, suck at Pelma. Get out it,

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<v Speaker 3>get out of it, Get out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>In more news, the silver Surfer has been catching for

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<v Speaker 2>the upcoming Fantastic Stick for movie. Deadline reports that Julia Garner,

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<v Speaker 2>who you might remember from Ozark, has been cast as

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<v Speaker 2>shar La Ball, But Rosie asks, does that mean that

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<v Speaker 2>the story that she's cast as a Silver Surfer is

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily accurate? Your thoughts?

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<v Speaker 4>So this is my theory? Would I love a female

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<v Speaker 4>Silver Surfa?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>Have we heard?

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<v Speaker 2>We love it?

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<v Speaker 3>Have we heard that this was a rumor they've been

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<v Speaker 3>trying to do for a long time. I was actually

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<v Speaker 3>if I was trying to cast a non binary person

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<v Speaker 3>as a silver Surfer in my very beloved fan cast

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<v Speaker 3>from a few years ago. But we've heard about this

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<v Speaker 3>rumor of the female silver Surfer? Is it going to

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<v Speaker 3>be Annya Taylor Joy? Julia Ganna fits that same mold.

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<v Speaker 3>But the reality is I'm not gonna get too excited

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<v Speaker 3>yet because I do believe there is a chance that

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<v Speaker 3>Deadline just were told she's been cast as Charla Ball

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<v Speaker 3>in the Silver SFA movie, and then someone there was like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 3>she played you know, Charlah Ball was the Silver Surfer

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<v Speaker 3>one time, one time in Earth Facts, you know. So

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna fully believe that she is the Silver

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<v Speaker 3>Surfer because that is not necessarily a big part of

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<v Speaker 3>Charla Ball's character. Scharla Ball is a Noorin rad aka

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<v Speaker 3>the Silver Surfer's lover, and she's you know, she's very

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<v Speaker 3>famously in the Silver Surfer animated series, which is fantastic

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<v Speaker 3>and you should definitely check it out.

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<v Speaker 4>And I hope that she is going to get to

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<v Speaker 4>be the Silver Surfer.

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<v Speaker 3>And actually, Jason, you made a great point, which is

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<v Speaker 3>look at Victor timely.

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<v Speaker 4>Look at these characters.

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<v Speaker 3>That they're bringing in who've been in like four issues.

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<v Speaker 3>So actually them taking the fact that Charli Ball was

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<v Speaker 3>Silver Surfer in like a couple of issues actually makes

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<v Speaker 3>quite a lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 4>What I'm most interested in is with Charla Ball.

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<v Speaker 3>Does this mean that we're going to get to see

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<v Speaker 3>zen Law and all of Nora and Rad's home and

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<v Speaker 3>that would be really cool because I love that stuff

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<v Speaker 3>and the power cosmic and kind of Galactus. Okay, and

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<v Speaker 3>you asked one of my favorite questions, which is, now

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<v Speaker 3>we have female Silver Surfer.

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<v Speaker 2>Pot we get who we get Lady Galactus?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we get galactis I hope? So I want to

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<v Speaker 3>see Galactus. Let's let's noy Bob Iger and now some

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<v Speaker 3>Poults and make it all women. So bob By yours

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<v Speaker 3>for it. Sorry, sorry Poults, now some pounds and at

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<v Speaker 3>it He's like, oh, I'm a Selvasafa superstart.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't imagine that she could ever be a woman.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And then finally new X Men line coming the days

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<v Speaker 2>of Krakoa or are have sadly sadly and I mean this,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very sad. I'm I'm so sad that the Kracoa

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<v Speaker 2>peak is done. It needed to happen, but this was

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<v Speaker 2>the highest the X Men have ever road in mar Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the most relevant they've ever been in a in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty years. It's the most powerful they've been ever in

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<v Speaker 2>the history of them as characters within the universe. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's over at south By Southwest. The ex Office announced

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of new projects, and the one that we're

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<v Speaker 2>really interested in is Exceptional x Men, written by show

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<v Speaker 2>pal eve L euing with art Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Ex Rason Bestie writing the X Men, I can't believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go tell us what it's about.

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<v Speaker 4>Official solicit mutant Kind's two greatest teachers Mold the next

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<v Speaker 4>generation of X Men.

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<v Speaker 3>Kate Pride has returned home to Chicago, Eve, you just

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<v Speaker 3>can't help yourself. Following the war with Orcis, having stepped

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<v Speaker 3>away from the world of mutantdom, she is nevertheless called

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<v Speaker 3>back into action as she crosses paths with a trio

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<v Speaker 3>of new young mutants, Bronze, Axo and Melee, who clearly

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<v Speaker 3>need training and guidance.

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<v Speaker 4>Unfortunately for Kate, Emma Frost thinks, so as well, this

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<v Speaker 4>is going to be a gay book.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, So let me just mutant Kind's two greatest teachers.

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<v Speaker 2>I had never thought about, like a power ranking of

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<v Speaker 2>Mutant Kine's greatest teachers.

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<v Speaker 4>Mm hmmm.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that Listen Wolverine ran the school for a while,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think he did a pretty good job. Storm

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<v Speaker 2>is up there. For me, Storm has got to be

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<v Speaker 2>up there. But I gotta say I kind of don't

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<v Speaker 2>disagree that Cad and Emma are the two greatest teachers.

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<v Speaker 3>It is huge everywhere. She's been teaching them in Upstate

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<v Speaker 3>New York. She's been teaching him in Genosha, She's been

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<v Speaker 3>teaching him on Krakoa. Emma Frost is a real one.

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<v Speaker 3>I love her so much. I think this is really great.

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<v Speaker 4>I love that this has three new mutants like who

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<v Speaker 4>we haven't met before.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, Eve said, I hope that for some thirteen or

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<v Speaker 3>fourteen year old readers, this might be the first comic

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<v Speaker 3>book they pick up. And I love that mindset because

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<v Speaker 3>that's definitely why I was thinking of with Godzilla, Monster Island,

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<v Speaker 3>Summer Camp, and I think Eva is the person to

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<v Speaker 3>do it. Also, the other teams, obviously Jed McKay, who's

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<v Speaker 3>like the Marvel stalwart right now, he's doing a book

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<v Speaker 3>with Ryan Stegman if you're an Invincible fan, which is

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<v Speaker 3>just adjectiveless X Men, so just X Men, and then

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<v Speaker 3>Gail Simone on ther Yeah, and I believe that will

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<v Speaker 3>make her like if this is an ongoing Uncanny book,

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<v Speaker 3>she could really be breaking some new ground here. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's going to be your more classic Rogue, Gambit, Nightcrawler,

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<v Speaker 3>Jubilee and Wolverine team. And what was really cool is

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<v Speaker 3>they released these with an interlocking cover, you know, kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like what they did with X Men ninety one,

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<v Speaker 3>where you could see each of the different teams and

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<v Speaker 3>each of those covers will join together. If you want

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<v Speaker 3>to know who's going to be on the main X

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<v Speaker 3>Men team, Cyclops, Beast, Magneto, Silock, Kid, Omega and Temper

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<v Speaker 3>formerly known as Oyer, as well as Magic Illiana Everybody

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<v Speaker 3>Loves Her and shocking addition Juggernaut.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think these are going to be some really exciting,

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<v Speaker 4>really exciting books.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm excited because the X Men listen, I weep for

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<v Speaker 2>the Krakoa era. At the same time, my introduction to

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<v Speaker 2>the X Men is like a week to week reader

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<v Speaker 2>was really this outlaw period when they were running around

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<v Speaker 2>in the outback of Australia. So a return to that

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<v Speaker 2>kind of vibe is very very exciting to me. Next

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<v Speaker 2>up more X Men with the X Men ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Then when the first two episodes dropped and I hit

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<v Speaker 2>play and that music hit, I was like, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>believe this is back. I can't do this.

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<v Speaker 3>And not just that, like something that I couldn't quite

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<v Speaker 3>that hadn't quite considered how exciting it would be is

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<v Speaker 3>getting to see these characters who some of them were

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<v Speaker 3>in the show but who didn't get to and that opening,

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<v Speaker 3>like getting to see Bishop in that iconic X Men opening,

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<v Speaker 3>and the way that they kind of reimagined it, which

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<v Speaker 3>for so many of us is an iconic maybe the

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<v Speaker 3>most iconic cartoon opening of all time.

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<v Speaker 4>It's up there with anime, and a lot of American shows.

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<v Speaker 3>Never get a theme tune and opening that is up

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<v Speaker 3>there with that catchiness of what anime can do.

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<v Speaker 4>It was magical. I went into this with.

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<v Speaker 3>Like relatively low expectations only because how do you build

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<v Speaker 3>on something that is so iconic. That Also, a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of what we love about it is more about our

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<v Speaker 3>own nostalgia for it, Like when you go back, it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's It was kind of rushed out, and the show

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't necessarily animation wise, there were rough edges, but so

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<v Speaker 3>much of what we love about it is our own

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<v Speaker 3>interactions with it and how it shaped our love for

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<v Speaker 3>these characters. So to be able to build on that

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<v Speaker 3>and create something that feels relevant in the modern day

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<v Speaker 3>that is in conversation with the audience, that also makes

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<v Speaker 3>the subtext of The X Men so much more explicit.

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<v Speaker 2>Much just that's part that the anime d beautiful. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so let's get into it. Episode one and episode two,

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<v Speaker 2>to Me My x Men and Mutant Liberation begins. This

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<v Speaker 2>is the first two episode drop. When the show launched.

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<v Speaker 2>To Me My x Men, Charles is gone. He's up

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<v Speaker 2>in space following the events at the UN when Henry

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<v Speaker 2>Gyrich attempted to kill Charles Xavier. The team is struggling

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of carry on his mission and his absence,

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<v Speaker 2>Cyclops taking on a more explicit leadership role, and the

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<v Speaker 2>team swings into action to protect Brazilian teen rich Kid

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<v Speaker 2>and emerging mutant Robert Costa from human extremists, who it

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<v Speaker 2>turns out have Sentinel tech. Where they get that done done,

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<v Speaker 2>Jean Gray finds out where they got it. They got

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<v Speaker 2>it from Bolivar Trask, aka the un Musk of mutant

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<v Speaker 2>genocides he loves to do it, who is teamed up

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<v Speaker 2>with a sentient Sentinel master Mold to create new Sentinel tech.

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<v Speaker 2>The X Men defeat Trask and the Mold, and later

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<v Speaker 2>in what can only be described as an incredible jaw

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<v Speaker 2>drop it twist, so we discover that Charles named his

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<v Speaker 2>former arch rival supervillain Magneto as his heir, and Magneto

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<v Speaker 2>is now in full legal control of the school.

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<v Speaker 4>What and he says to me, my x Men, you

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<v Speaker 4>are my x Men now?

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<v Speaker 3>So this is so this is really fun, like I

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<v Speaker 3>love this so much, and basically this is a really

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<v Speaker 3>smart thing because it echoes the opening episode that we

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<v Speaker 3>get of X Men ninety two, which is all about

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<v Speaker 3>that big sentinel action. Nice to see the master mold,

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<v Speaker 3>which is like a nineteen sixty six.

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<v Speaker 4>Stanley Jack Kirby creation from X Men fifty.

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<v Speaker 3>Then we also get that really famous moment of Magneto

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<v Speaker 3>being in charge of the school.

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<v Speaker 4>But they play it so well here in the comics.

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<v Speaker 4>It was just like in a.

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<v Speaker 3>Nineteen eighty seven issue of New Mutants, they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>Magneto is the head master, Now, how's that going. But

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<v Speaker 3>here we get that great and he's in that classic

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<v Speaker 3>m costume and he turns around.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think you'll find it's all mine.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you know the comics, you may get a

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<v Speaker 3>hint of Charles's true fate from the fact that Magneto

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<v Speaker 3>has arrived.

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<v Speaker 4>And then we're onto episode two. I mean, that's gotta

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<v Speaker 4>be one of the best cliffhangers of like all times.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so good.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a shot.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're only your main interaction with the X Men

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<v Speaker 3>is this cartoon and kind of the movies and stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>that's gotta blow you away.

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<v Speaker 4>Like if you're not like us and you know this

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<v Speaker 4>stuff inside out.

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<v Speaker 3>Even for me. It gave me chills, and I gave

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<v Speaker 3>Magneto why is he so sexy?

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<v Speaker 4>Why does he have.

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<v Speaker 2>A Gambit? Gibbitt is asking that very question.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, Gambit, Gambit. I just have to say

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<v Speaker 4>the reveal.

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<v Speaker 3>My Gambit's just cooking in the kitchen with like a

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<v Speaker 3>crop top on.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, oh, I get it. I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>this show is like gay gay, like this is like

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<v Speaker 4>Lisa show, like folk. We are people who love the

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<v Speaker 4>X Man. I was like, we all blast.

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<v Speaker 2>I am very very happy that Gambit is essentially a

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<v Speaker 2>Cajun himbo in this beautiful as it should be. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>liberation begins. Magneto or is our new headmaster. Guess what?

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<v Speaker 2>Scott hates it? Hey, I guess you hate guess you.

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<v Speaker 4>Hate it more?

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<v Speaker 2>The humans? The humans really really hate it. Rogue surprisingly

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<v Speaker 2>into it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, gambits together in the Savage Lands.

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<v Speaker 2>They have what is their relationship about? We're gonna learn

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<v Speaker 2>more about it, don't worry you. Enforced led by Val

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<v Speaker 2>Cooper storm the mansion. They're like, you got to give

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<v Speaker 2>us the super villain and international criminal terrorist Magneto. And

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<v Speaker 2>Magneto's like, listen, I'm trying to go straight. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>go on trial and if I win, then then I'm

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<v Speaker 2>integrated into society because that's how the system should work.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're not go all right. The Friends of Humanity

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<v Speaker 2>aka human terrorists who hate mutants attack the trial and

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<v Speaker 2>very very January sixth, and let me just say, like

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<v Speaker 2>after the attempted assassination of Charles on that very same

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<v Speaker 2>un stage, we need to get the un like.

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<v Speaker 4>U Instata, get bassacure Amen.

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<v Speaker 2>The X Men defeat them, but Storm is depowered potentially

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<v Speaker 2>for good when she jumps in front of a blast

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<v Speaker 2>intended for Magneto. Magneto then enters negotiations to repatriate any

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<v Speaker 2>mutant who wants to leave what is a what is

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<v Speaker 2>a very biased American society to the mutant nation of Genosha.

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<v Speaker 2>Should they wish to leave, If they want to go,

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<v Speaker 2>they can go. Rogue then uses her powers to acquire

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<v Speaker 2>the medical knowledge necessary to deliver genes baby. The doctor

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to work on mutants, Okay, whatever, and then Storm,

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<v Speaker 2>now depowered, takes a bus away from the Seamen Leek, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Just have to say something here, and this is something

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<v Speaker 3>I love about the show this is a new power

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<v Speaker 3>for Rogue, Like she can she can take people's powers, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but now she can just take a human's talents.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a bigger he deserved it, but also terrifying

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<v Speaker 3>and fantastic. And I like this as well because this

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<v Speaker 3>episode basically rolls in a bunch of kind of.

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<v Speaker 4>Really important moments.

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<v Speaker 3>You get like the two hundred trial of Magneto, as

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<v Speaker 3>well as the birth of baby Nathan, who I believe

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<v Speaker 3>we see on the first page of that issue. We

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<v Speaker 3>also get Storm being depowered. But what is really interesting

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<v Speaker 3>here is that's like a huge moment in Uncanny one

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<v Speaker 3>to eighty six, but in there she's she's saving Rogue,

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<v Speaker 3>who's kind of on the run, this reformed villainess, and

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<v Speaker 3>she's about to join the team after Storm saves her.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think we're gonna.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably see a lot more about like Storm's connection to Magneto,

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<v Speaker 3>because that's a big choice and it would have been

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<v Speaker 3>easy we have broke it could have been easy to

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<v Speaker 3>do it for that, but they decided to mix it up.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think it also showcases just what a powerful

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<v Speaker 3>person Storm is because she chooses to do that even

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<v Speaker 3>for someone who used to be her foe, and if

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<v Speaker 3>we're lucky, this is gonna essentially lead to like some

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<v Speaker 3>of the best Auroro storytelling. You know that this is

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<v Speaker 3>some of the best era of Storm is when she

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<v Speaker 3>is depowered and she can still whip Cyclops's ass.

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<v Speaker 4>And I actually have to say, spoiler alert.

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<v Speaker 5>We haven't type of thanks spoilerer, We haven't talked about

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<v Speaker 5>this yet, but as a renowned, quite known Cyclops hater,

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<v Speaker 5>I must say they actually they did such a huge job.

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<v Speaker 1>He is so cool.

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<v Speaker 3>This is.

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<v Speaker 2>This is absolutely along with astonishing X Men, this is

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely one of the best depictions of Cyclops and why

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<v Speaker 2>he is the right leader for the X Men and

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<v Speaker 2>a strategic mastermind. They sell it really well. They in

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<v Speaker 2>the in the to Me My x Men, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>moment where you know, they get shot out of the

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<v Speaker 2>sky by the Sentinel. See you on the ground, See

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<v Speaker 2>you on the ground, and he uses his powers, his

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<v Speaker 2>concussive blast eyeblasts in a way that was one very

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<v Speaker 2>original and really cool and showed you like how powerful

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<v Speaker 2>he was. He he blasts the ground, essentially slowing his

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<v Speaker 2>rate of fall so that he could just like land

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<v Speaker 2>on the ground and I was like, wow, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think I ever I know.

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<v Speaker 3>An The bit that I really loved was when the

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<v Speaker 3>Human extremists like take off his they take off his visa,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's like no, no, please, and then once they

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<v Speaker 3>take you off, he's like just kidding and then he

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<v Speaker 3>shoot like explodes.

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<v Speaker 4>The whole building. My favorite version of Psyclops is in

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<v Speaker 4>New X Memoir.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like a very conflicted kind of adult and he's

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<v Speaker 3>a bit of a jerk, and I felt like that

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<v Speaker 3>was the first time I'd really seen him the Psychic

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<v Speaker 3>Affair with Emma Frost, that was kind of the first

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<v Speaker 3>time I'd ever seen him become interesting to me. But

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<v Speaker 3>this is actually the first time that I thought he

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<v Speaker 3>was really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the latest episode which dropped us this week,

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<v Speaker 2>Fire Made Flesh, continuing the X Men animated series incredible

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<v Speaker 2>tradition of distilling very very complicated and at times long

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<v Speaker 2>running storylines into episodes size plots. Folks, this is one

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<v Speaker 2>of the greatest episodes of the X Men animated series

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<v Speaker 2>in history.

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<v Speaker 4>Activated show.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you can't and it does that They did it,

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<v Speaker 2>and it does is titanic work in making what is

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<v Speaker 2>a very very complicated and even to me right now, confusing,

0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:12.879
<v Speaker 2>like I'm still confused by this storyline to a certain degree,

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<v Speaker 2>and long running storyline and making it I think really

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<v Speaker 2>crystal clear. Episode three, Fire Made Flesh. Another gene shows

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<v Speaker 2>up at the X mansion. She knocks on the doors,

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<v Speaker 2>like I need the X men. They were like, wait, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>we have a gene. She's right here, she's holding a baby.

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<v Speaker 3>What is this?

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<v Speaker 2>And they realize their gene with the baby reads the

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<v Speaker 2>unconscious the new gene's mind and sees mister Sinister, Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, what is this? This sees a jumble of

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<v Speaker 2>fragmented memories. But the shocking news is, after Beast runs

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<v Speaker 2>some tests, this new gene, the stranger who just showed up,

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<v Speaker 2>is the real gene, and the gene that just gave

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<v Speaker 2>birth to this kid is a clone and at some

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<v Speaker 2>point in the past. No one knows when.

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<v Speaker 4>It could have been a long ago.

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<v Speaker 1>It could have been a lot of love.

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<v Speaker 2>They could have been originally, it could have been after

0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:16.760
<v Speaker 2>the Phoenix lie. No one knows. Mister Sinister, an evil

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<v Speaker 2>geneticist who's been working on mutants since the nineteenth century,

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<v Speaker 2>switched them. What now with the real gene back the

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<v Speaker 2>fake Jane, who comics fans will know as Madeline Pryor

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<v Speaker 2>and who will call herself Madeline Prior by the end

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<v Speaker 2>of this episode, uses her psychic powers to turn the

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<v Speaker 2>mansion into a house of horrors, and she takes on

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<v Speaker 2>the role of the villainess known as.

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<v Speaker 4>The Goblin Queen Dun dun du dun dun duh uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's an absolutely trippy and crazy adventure that ends

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<v Speaker 2>when the Goblin Queen kind of you know, realizes that

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<v Speaker 2>wait a second, I actually do love these people. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't do this and I don't want to do this

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing, and she leaves, says call me Madeline Prior,

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<v Speaker 2>and then Ed's exits, and then we see that the

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<v Speaker 2>baby that Madeline Prior had given birth to is infected

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<v Speaker 2>with a techno organic virus. There's no known cure to

0:22:14.000 --> 0:22:17.720
<v Speaker 2>this strain of the virus. So Bishop, who comes from

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<v Speaker 2>the year twenty fifty five in an alternate future, says, well,

0:22:20.359 --> 0:22:22.680
<v Speaker 2>wa wait, and we might have we might have some

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<v Speaker 2>medicine in twenty fifty five that can that can heal this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to take this baby into the future. And

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<v Speaker 2>that is the end of the episode. Folks, dude, I holy.

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<v Speaker 4>Cow, I knew so.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we had an inkling that they once we

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<v Speaker 3>saw that Gene Invited Comics was pregnant, we probably had

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<v Speaker 3>an inkling that it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually I think they'd do it this quickly.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't think they would do it this quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't think they'd try and wrap it up in

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<v Speaker 3>one episode. And I also love so they did it.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of changes.

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<v Speaker 4>Here in the comics.

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<v Speaker 3>Madeline first appears in Uncounty X Men one sixty eight,

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<v Speaker 3>and she's like a pilot in a plane crash. You

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<v Speaker 3>lost her memory, and her and Scott fall in love

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<v Speaker 3>and he's left because she looks just like ge, like Jean,

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<v Speaker 3>and he even.

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<v Speaker 4>Says he's like, oh my god, he looks she looks

0:23:09.600 --> 0:23:12.359
<v Speaker 4>just like her. It's like, okay, bro, I love that ner.

0:23:13.640 --> 0:23:17.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's but the funny the interesting thing that I think,

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<v Speaker 3>and this is actually where I wore my Fantastic four shirt.

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<v Speaker 3>I do think I'm interested here because when Gin returns,

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<v Speaker 3>that was actually in a JOm Burn issue of Fantastic Four,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was super controversial because she was supposed to

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<v Speaker 3>be dead and it was a big deal in the

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<v Speaker 3>X office, but I feel like they're bringing in plotlines

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<v Speaker 3>from other heroes. I would be interested to see if

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<v Speaker 3>we see other heroes by the end, because, as we've

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<v Speaker 3>said many times before, the animated series of X Men

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<v Speaker 3>and Spider Man and Iron Man, even from that nineties era,

0:23:47.200 --> 0:23:49.800
<v Speaker 3>they were essentially an original shared universe. You saw all

0:23:49.840 --> 0:23:52.359
<v Speaker 3>different characters in each different animated series. So I'd be

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<v Speaker 3>interested to see that. I just want to say, back

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<v Speaker 3>on my Scott business for a moment, Scott sucks.

0:23:57.400 --> 0:23:58.080
<v Speaker 4>I just need to say this.

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<v Speaker 3>In this episode, as he is just a baby wit

0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:05.000
<v Speaker 3>this woman, this woman he has had sex with, this woman,

0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:09.200
<v Speaker 3>birth the child, and the moment, the moment real Gene

0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:10.880
<v Speaker 3>shows up, he's like, peace out.

0:24:11.680 --> 0:24:16.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, listen, here's the here's the problem. And

0:24:16.560 --> 0:24:19.639
<v Speaker 2>I don't disagree that that is factually what happened. I

0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:23.280
<v Speaker 2>think Scott, as he mentions in I think this episode

0:24:23.280 --> 0:24:27.040
<v Speaker 2>of maybe the previous one, he is dealing with some

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<v Speaker 2>very serious abandonment issues.

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<v Speaker 4>That's his father left.

0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:37.399
<v Speaker 2>I'd rather go party in space than raise my boys

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<v Speaker 2>and goes. Currently, currently the leader of the Starjammer is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the one of the most iconic deadbeat dads

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<v Speaker 2>in comic history.

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<v Speaker 4>Very likely we'll see some space.

0:24:48.720 --> 0:24:53.800
<v Speaker 2>Actually, there's no question we're going to see him. Then.

0:24:53.840 --> 0:24:58.080
<v Speaker 2>Of course, his his stand in father, Charles Xavier, also

0:24:58.240 --> 0:25:04.080
<v Speaker 2>fled to space, and so he's he has these attachment issues.

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<v Speaker 2>This is not to make excuses for him, but all

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<v Speaker 2>of which is to say, I feel for the guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a question that I wanted to ask you because

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<v Speaker 2>I was to your point. I was amazed at how

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<v Speaker 2>quickly one they introduced this storyline, and how with such

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<v Speaker 2>alacrity they wrapped it all up multiple not just the

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<v Speaker 2>mattel In prior introduction, but then her morphing into the

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<v Speaker 2>Goblin Queen, and then the wrapping up of that whole thing,

0:25:31.160 --> 0:25:34.679
<v Speaker 2>and a reintroduction mister Sinister, the introduction of mister Sinister,

0:25:34.880 --> 0:25:37.560
<v Speaker 2>and the reintroduction of the actual, the real Jean Gray,

0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:41.240
<v Speaker 2>setting up potentially like an X Factor original X Factor

0:25:41.320 --> 0:25:48.879
<v Speaker 2>team offshoot happening. Does the continuity in X may the

0:25:48.960 --> 0:25:51.480
<v Speaker 2>animated series make more sense than in the comics. I

0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:53.920
<v Speaker 2>kind of think, Listen, I like the comics more obviously

0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:56.800
<v Speaker 2>as a comics centric reader, and I think the emotional

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<v Speaker 2>impact is more intense and different. At the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to just like understand what the broad

0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:07.399
<v Speaker 2>outlines of the comics are, watch this show, because I

0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:10.560
<v Speaker 2>was like, yeah, that's what happened. That's exactly what makes

0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:12.560
<v Speaker 2>it's so much more simple in this version.

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<v Speaker 3>This has always been my argument for them. For X

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<v Speaker 3>Men ninety two and also the Spider Man animated series,

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<v Speaker 3>I think.

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<v Speaker 4>Does this well too. Before.

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<v Speaker 3>You may not believe this if you're listening, but there

0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:24.800
<v Speaker 3>was a time when people didn't really rate those shows

0:26:24.920 --> 0:26:27.200
<v Speaker 3>very much because of the style of animation, like even

0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:29.119
<v Speaker 3>though we always had that nostalgic feel for them.

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<v Speaker 4>But my argument has always been, if you.

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<v Speaker 3>Want to know the biggest and most important arcs in comics,

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:39.520
<v Speaker 3>watch those shows. In Spider Man, you can see the Symbia,

0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:43.000
<v Speaker 3>you can see Eddie Brock, you can see how Carnage

0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:45.840
<v Speaker 3>was created. You can learn all these really important things

0:26:45.960 --> 0:26:48.239
<v Speaker 3>in a couple of episodes. X Men was great at

0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:51.720
<v Speaker 3>that too, the Phoenix saga. You know, these are things

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:56.040
<v Speaker 3>that are so complex in the comics and can be

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<v Speaker 3>incredibly overwhelming, especially like if you're trying to find the

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<v Speaker 3>Goblin Queen arc.

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<v Speaker 4>You're reading multiple different books multiplely, You're reading all the time.

0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:07.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're reading the Inferno crossover series, you're all.

0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:11.000
<v Speaker 3>Exactly and this is a this is a distilled down version.

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:13.680
<v Speaker 3>I think what's really cool about this that I love

0:27:13.760 --> 0:27:16.200
<v Speaker 3>about the way they choose to do this stuff. I

0:27:16.359 --> 0:27:18.680
<v Speaker 3>can imagine that somebody can watch this episode and go,

0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:21.960
<v Speaker 3>oh my god, that blew my mind, Like, what the fuck?

0:27:22.520 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 4>I want to read it. I want to know about

0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:27.720
<v Speaker 4>Madeline Pryor, I want to know who she is. I

0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:28.240
<v Speaker 4>think it's the.

0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:33.040
<v Speaker 3>Ultimate accessibility point for people who want to read comics,

0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:34.880
<v Speaker 3>and for people who want to read a different part

0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:36.639
<v Speaker 3>of the comics but can't be bothered to.

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:38.720
<v Speaker 4>Read ten years, they could just watch the episode.

0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:42.040
<v Speaker 3>I think they did it so well, and I love

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:44.760
<v Speaker 3>the way that they used it as a rug to

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:47.720
<v Speaker 3>pull out of the audience, like under the audience's feet.

0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:51.240
<v Speaker 4>The reveal that the Gene we knew wasn't Jean, and

0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:54.639
<v Speaker 4>that kind of shock of that baby not being Jeen's baby,

0:27:54.880 --> 0:27:56.840
<v Speaker 4>even though Gene and Scott just basically like, that's my

0:27:56.960 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 4>baby now. But yeah, I thought they rubbed that baby,

0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:02.360
<v Speaker 4>but like I thought, I was so cool.

0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:05.440
<v Speaker 3>And my favorite big change here is like I love

0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 3>the idea that Bishop is going to essentially raise Baby Nakes,

0:28:08.880 --> 0:28:10.800
<v Speaker 3>who then becomes Cable.

0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:14.240
<v Speaker 2>Okay, who has already been introduced in the final season

0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:16.000
<v Speaker 2>of the original X Men animated series.

0:28:16.520 --> 0:28:18.720
<v Speaker 3>So and I just think that is so cool. I

0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:21.000
<v Speaker 3>thought they just smashed it. I thought the fast two

0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 3>episodes were really great, but after this one, I'm like,

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:24.119
<v Speaker 3>whatever they do.

0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 4>I'm all the way.

0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:29.639
<v Speaker 2>Also, I was watching rewatching the final season of X

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 2>Men animated series because I after watching X Men ninety seven,

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:38.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, man, the central the mutant metaphor for out groups,

0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 2>for for gay people, for the LGBTQ community, for minority,

0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 2>like that central metaphor is more powerful than ever. And

0:28:47.280 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 2>it felt to me like, man, they're they're not running away,

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:53.680
<v Speaker 2>They're leaning into it just as hard as ever. So

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:55.719
<v Speaker 2>I went back and I watched X Men ninety two

0:28:56.720 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, actually, I think what's changed is

0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:02.280
<v Speaker 2>the world because they were going just as hard in

0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:06.800
<v Speaker 2>X Men the animated series. And what's what felt to

0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:11.280
<v Speaker 2>me so powerful about X Men ninety seven and that

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:13.840
<v Speaker 2>and the way the central metaphor like hit me in

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 2>my chest was that the world feels like it needs

0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 2>this story more, like this feels like a something that

0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 2>a trenchant critique of the world right now, like that's.

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:28.720
<v Speaker 3>It's really funny that, Like when I watched this, I

0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:31.040
<v Speaker 3>was like, whoa, I'm shocked, Like Disney let it be

0:29:31.160 --> 0:29:31.840
<v Speaker 3>this ratical.

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:35.080
<v Speaker 4>I loved how explicit they.

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 3>Made it all and how it just was like, this

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 3>is what the X Men's always been about, baby, And

0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:43.240
<v Speaker 3>if you don't want to see like men in like

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:46.400
<v Speaker 3>tight spendex suits talking about how racism is bad, then

0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:47.200
<v Speaker 3>watch another show.

0:29:48.720 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 2>It also with you know, I remember being shocked by

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 2>Magneto's turn to being a good guy in the Trial

0:29:55.760 --> 0:30:00.720
<v Speaker 2>of Magneto and how skillfully Claremont executed that, And I

0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:05.880
<v Speaker 2>just think that it was such a wonderful like recognition

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 2>on Claremont's part that actually, wait a second, like Magneto

0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 2>the reasons he's doing this, he actually has a very

0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 2>accurate read on this situation. He does more accurate than

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 2>Charles maybe in certain respects, and so to pivot to him,

0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:24.760
<v Speaker 2>I think is amazing. And I love the way it

0:30:24.880 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 2>was done in the show. I just I just think

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:28.800
<v Speaker 2>it's it makes so much sense.

0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 3>I also love how they made him seem they were

0:30:31.960 --> 0:30:35.240
<v Speaker 3>just like Magnea was just a logical guy like that

0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:37.120
<v Speaker 3>in itself is a great reason too, you.

0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:39.680
<v Speaker 4>Don't even have to Yeah, he's too is he too?

0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:44.400
<v Speaker 4>Is he too cool? We'll survive? Like it's so good.

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 2>Onto episode four. It's Jubiley's eighteenth birthday, and you know

0:30:50.280 --> 0:30:52.440
<v Speaker 2>what my girl wants to do. She wants to party.

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:57.960
<v Speaker 2>But yes, eighteen, it's a that is a landmark year.

0:30:58.200 --> 0:31:01.200
<v Speaker 2>It's time to party. But guess what but the what

0:31:01.320 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 2>are the boring ass adults at Xavier University want to do? Well?

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 2>Magneto is like, we should be training. It's a week.

0:31:11.440 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 4>He's like, He's like, good luck, Like no birthday for you.

0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:16.680
<v Speaker 3>Wolverine on the other end, he's like, she should get

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:18.400
<v Speaker 3>a birthday because he's a great dad.

0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 4>He's a good guy.

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:22.760
<v Speaker 2>Wonderful thing about x Men ninety seven that I actually

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:24.840
<v Speaker 2>love is nobody listens to Wolverine.

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:26.800
<v Speaker 4>They know him.

0:31:27.800 --> 0:31:33.480
<v Speaker 2>This is the cranky uncle who nobody listens to. Magneto's

0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 2>idea that hey, the enemies of Mutantom never sleep, so

0:31:37.000 --> 0:31:41.800
<v Speaker 2>why should we doesn't carry the day. So Jubilee goes

0:31:41.840 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 2>disappointed to a room she's hanging out with everybody's favorite

0:31:45.000 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 2>Presilian rich kid, Robert Tacosta, and she finds a motendo

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:52.360
<v Speaker 2>console in her room, a video game console in a room,

0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:54.320
<v Speaker 2>and she thinks, well, this must be my surprise gift.

0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she thinks Jean set it up for a very

0:31:56.760 --> 0:31:58.719
<v Speaker 3>NIGHI Jean's always so jealous.

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 4>Were on the moment of Gene, Yeah, mention of Gene.

0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:06.080
<v Speaker 4>We should mention that eagle eyed viewers including us.

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:08.520
<v Speaker 3>But but you know, this is now a conversation online

0:32:08.600 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 3>and our wonderful producer even pointed out to us. As

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:15.240
<v Speaker 3>you will notice in the opening of this episode, we

0:32:15.440 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 3>see Gene with a ponytail, meaning the real Gene in

0:32:19.040 --> 0:32:20.080
<v Speaker 3>the credits.

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:21.240
<v Speaker 1>Was not real Gene.

0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:23.880
<v Speaker 2>This is real Gene, real real Gene.

0:32:23.680 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 4>In the credits. Even Maddie.

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:28.720
<v Speaker 3>Maddie was in the credits of the first three episodes,

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<v Speaker 3>which is so good and if you like, if you

0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:35.680
<v Speaker 3>like kind of digging into that stuff, each of the credits,

0:32:36.160 --> 0:32:38.240
<v Speaker 3>the opening credits are different, and in this one we

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:39.600
<v Speaker 3>even get a tease of Mojo.

0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 4>We see a havoc with Polaris and Forge. There's all

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:46.960
<v Speaker 4>different kinds of cool teasers for I think will come

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:48.959
<v Speaker 4>talk about it. So yeah, very far.

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So she boots it up. She boots up the console,

0:32:52.560 --> 0:32:55.880
<v Speaker 2>let's play some video games. But guess what, folks, it's

0:32:55.880 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 2>a trap. It's a trap set by everybody's least favorite

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 2>evil interdimensional media mogul Mojo, and Jubilee and Robert costafinding

0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:10.520
<v Speaker 2>themselves transported to the Mojo Verse, where, of course, on

0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:16.760
<v Speaker 2>brand they are put through various terrible ordeals, including going

0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:22.040
<v Speaker 2>to Genosha where they see the past, some past visions

0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 2>of Jubilee's actual history where she sees mutants, enslaved by

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:31.280
<v Speaker 2>Ball of our Trask, having to build various things. They're

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:34.720
<v Speaker 2>put through all these kinds of ordeals for ratings, which,

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:39.200
<v Speaker 2>of course Mojo thrives on Jubes and Roberto with the

0:33:39.280 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 2>help of a digital copy of Jubilee that was put

0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:44.800
<v Speaker 2>into the game in order to beta test the video

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:46.800
<v Speaker 2>game and survived.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, I just want to say, this is

0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:51.760
<v Speaker 3>like so interesting because I love they're taking from some

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:53.640
<v Speaker 3>really weird dark stuff here.

0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:56.120
<v Speaker 4>This the old version of Jubilee in the comics is

0:33:56.160 --> 0:34:00.760
<v Speaker 4>called Absessa. Yeah, and it's like this very similar.

0:34:00.480 --> 0:34:05.600
<v Speaker 3>Aesthetically, but in the comics version, Absissa basically is like

0:34:05.720 --> 0:34:08.239
<v Speaker 3>a slave to Mojo, and it's this really depressing thing.

0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:11.480
<v Speaker 3>And here she gets to be this heroin and help Jubilee,

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:14.719
<v Speaker 3>and it's just this really great, great moment and it

0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:16.439
<v Speaker 3>works really well and it's really cool.

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:20.279
<v Speaker 2>I think it's wonderful, and it was actually to me

0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:25.160
<v Speaker 2>one of the strongest emotional through lines of this story.

0:34:25.320 --> 0:34:30.240
<v Speaker 2>In this episode, Absissa is older. As mentioned, she is wiser.

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:33.480
<v Speaker 2>She's survived inside of the game for all this time

0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:36.160
<v Speaker 2>since it was in beta testing, so she has an

0:34:36.239 --> 0:34:39.279
<v Speaker 2>advanced control over her powers, and she knows the game

0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:43.600
<v Speaker 2>and she knows Mojo inside out. With Absiss's help, Mojo

0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:47.200
<v Speaker 2>as the final loss, is defeated, which ironically for Mojo

0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:50.440
<v Speaker 2>is huge ratings. The thing that he thrives out I

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:51.200
<v Speaker 2>know that.

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:52.400
<v Speaker 4>Nobody loves it.

0:34:52.680 --> 0:34:54.800
<v Speaker 3>The funniest thing is, I'm like, bro, how about you

0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:57.360
<v Speaker 3>just don't have loads of slaves and they wouldn't have

0:34:57.520 --> 0:35:01.359
<v Speaker 3>to constantly make weird TV to entertain them.

0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:04.120
<v Speaker 4>I feel like just not having slaves would be the answer.

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:05.960
<v Speaker 4>But you know what, do I know? I'm not Mojo.

0:35:06.280 --> 0:35:07.080
<v Speaker 4>I don't know nothing.

0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, Mojo should listen also to Spiral More who Spiral

0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:17.680
<v Speaker 2>is at least like in touch with how the Mojo

0:35:17.840 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 2>show gets produced and understands like you need more technicians.

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:24.400
<v Speaker 2>You need more people that are actually producing anyway, Jubillian

0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Roberto go home and they immediately make out. This is great.

0:35:29.600 --> 0:35:32.319
<v Speaker 4>Yes, love this for them, Love this for them.

0:35:32.640 --> 0:35:35.560
<v Speaker 3>I love the scene where like all of Juwbes's powers

0:35:35.600 --> 0:35:39.359
<v Speaker 3>are kind of like popping around, very beautiful. I also

0:35:39.440 --> 0:35:41.640
<v Speaker 3>want to give a shout out to my good friend

0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:45.880
<v Speaker 3>Stephanie Williams, who's a brilliant writer who's written Nubia for

0:35:46.080 --> 0:35:50.200
<v Speaker 3>DC and Mongol Dinosaur Marvel. She began her comic book

0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:56.200
<v Speaker 3>career by making a mashup of living single and superheroes

0:35:56.280 --> 0:35:59.680
<v Speaker 3>called Living Heroes and there is and it was really

0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:03.160
<v Speaker 3>pop and that's kind of what with O'Neill, who's an

0:36:03.200 --> 0:36:05.920
<v Speaker 3>incredible artist, and that's what kind of popped her into

0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:09.520
<v Speaker 3>the megaverse of making these Marvel comics. And I think

0:36:09.560 --> 0:36:12.560
<v Speaker 3>there is a huge nod to that in this episode,

0:36:12.560 --> 0:36:14.640
<v Speaker 3>because we get the different world with all the different

0:36:14.680 --> 0:36:16.560
<v Speaker 3>Marvel superheros. So I just want to say there was

0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:20.600
<v Speaker 3>Stephanie's idea and I'm proud of it. But yeah, I

0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:22.920
<v Speaker 3>love them making out. I love the teens doing the

0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 3>good job. I'm interested to see. I feel like maybe

0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:29.200
<v Speaker 3>season two will get more about like Bobby's powers and

0:36:29.360 --> 0:36:31.000
<v Speaker 3>kind of but but him and Jubilee.

0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:32.240
<v Speaker 4>I'm a fan of that pairing.

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:34.840
<v Speaker 2>I like the slow roll on his powers and another

0:36:34.880 --> 0:36:38.440
<v Speaker 2>thing I like having I've been watching a bunch of

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:41.040
<v Speaker 2>stuff that I needed to catch up on for our

0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:43.320
<v Speaker 2>show and because I want to. And one thing I

0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:48.799
<v Speaker 2>will say that that comics stories, TV and movies need

0:36:48.960 --> 0:36:53.279
<v Speaker 2>more of is love. Love story. Yes, I agree, they

0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:56.640
<v Speaker 2>need romance and the X Men would not be the

0:36:56.920 --> 0:37:01.440
<v Speaker 2>X Men without lots of romance and love triangles. And

0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Joe and I love this great Yeah good h Life's

0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:09.200
<v Speaker 2>Death Part one. Storm is living with Forge out at

0:37:09.280 --> 0:37:13.000
<v Speaker 2>his cabin out in the wilderness. Forge is using his

0:37:13.160 --> 0:37:17.400
<v Speaker 2>mutant powers, which is he can build and create incredible devices,

0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:20.080
<v Speaker 2>and he's using them and I think you can imagine, Yeah,

0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:23.040
<v Speaker 2>he's using that power to try and make a machine

0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:26.600
<v Speaker 2>to undo the damage done to Storm by the Friends

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:29.480
<v Speaker 2>of the Human Friends of Humanity and their power stealing

0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:32.840
<v Speaker 2>weapon in order to return Storm's powers to her. We

0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:36.360
<v Speaker 2>see all throughout this story how heartbroken Storm is the

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 2>loss of her connection to nature.

0:37:38.280 --> 0:37:41.640
<v Speaker 3>It's devastating And speaking of romance, these two are obviously

0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:45.320
<v Speaker 3>in a little situation Hello going on, so is cooking

0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:50.600
<v Speaker 3>In the very famous first splash page of Life Death

0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:52.920
<v Speaker 3>is that Barry wins the Smith and it's Storm in

0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:56.000
<v Speaker 3>the sheet we do get a bit of that hare

0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:59.040
<v Speaker 3>so her and Forge. It's this really romantic kind of

0:37:59.120 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 3>connection between these two outsiders who aren't necessarily though we

0:38:03.600 --> 0:38:06.480
<v Speaker 3>do see that at one point Forge was part of

0:38:06.640 --> 0:38:07.560
<v Speaker 3>a X team.

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:12.000
<v Speaker 2>Let's mention that, so yes on the there's very tantalizing

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:16.160
<v Speaker 2>shots of the wall in Forge's workshop and he has

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:20.000
<v Speaker 2>a picture of him in uniform with a bunch of

0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:23.040
<v Speaker 2>other Mutants with an X right on the breast, some

0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:25.719
<v Speaker 2>kind of X related team. And the members of the

0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:28.440
<v Speaker 2>team are strong guy who, for those of you who

0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:30.560
<v Speaker 2>don't know, is exactly.

0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:30.640
<v Speaker 3>What is.

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:33.520
<v Speaker 4>Guess what the name means.

0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:37.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is a very very strong guy. Havoc uh

0:38:37.760 --> 0:38:42.959
<v Speaker 2>Scott's Scott's brother, Havoc's on again, off again, on again,

0:38:43.200 --> 0:38:47.080
<v Speaker 2>off again, on again, off again girlfriend. Polaris, daughter of

0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:52.080
<v Speaker 2>Magneto Wolf Spain, a notable member of the New Mutants

0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:55.080
<v Speaker 2>and mad Rocks Jamie Maddrox, the multiple Man, one of

0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:58.200
<v Speaker 2>my favorites of all time. So very interesting team.

0:38:58.880 --> 0:39:02.640
<v Speaker 4>It seems like it's like an expector ex.

0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:06.520
<v Speaker 3>Factor is yeah, expector ish maybe like yeah, depending on

0:39:06.560 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 3>which way they go.

0:39:07.320 --> 0:39:09.040
<v Speaker 4>But it's really cool and it kind of leans into

0:39:09.080 --> 0:39:11.279
<v Speaker 4>what we saw in the mall in the beginning, which is.

0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:14.440
<v Speaker 3>That opening credit scene where they kind of showed that

0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 3>team together with you know, Havocan Polaris having a little

0:39:19.080 --> 0:39:21.239
<v Speaker 3>smooch or something. You know, lots of romance going on,

0:39:21.320 --> 0:39:23.080
<v Speaker 3>and I think that's that's the correct way for this

0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:25.800
<v Speaker 3>to go. But yeah, this is agree, this is adapt Look, I'm.

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:27.000
<v Speaker 4>Going to be real. I love this show.

0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:29.719
<v Speaker 3>I think they do everything so perfectly. Life def is

0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:32.200
<v Speaker 3>like one of my all time favorite X Men arts. Yes,

0:39:32.480 --> 0:39:34.800
<v Speaker 3>I would have liked this to get his own I agree.

0:39:35.080 --> 0:39:37.239
<v Speaker 2>I think it needs to strecht, but I think it

0:39:37.280 --> 0:39:38.319
<v Speaker 2>will stretch out it will.

0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:39.239
<v Speaker 4>I think it will too.

0:39:39.320 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 3>I just want to also say in the comics, if

0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:44.960
<v Speaker 3>you've never read this stuff, go and read it.

0:39:45.000 --> 0:39:46.719
<v Speaker 4>It's great. But even if you don't want to do it,

0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:51.080
<v Speaker 4>just seuch forges airy because they really did forge dirty.

0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:52.879
<v Speaker 4>His house is so sick.

0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:57.759
<v Speaker 3>I mean it's like, yeah, it's you can't like, it's

0:39:57.920 --> 0:40:00.000
<v Speaker 3>just magical because he makes it with all of his power.

0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:02.319
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, very interesting.

0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:06.320
<v Speaker 2>It's a Willy Wonka ish type mutant.

0:40:07.040 --> 0:40:09.799
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's so cool, but I understand what they're doing here.

0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 4>It suits this kind of like Star.

0:40:12.360 --> 0:40:16.000
<v Speaker 3>Cross lovers in this moment, and obviously, as we're about

0:40:16.000 --> 0:40:18.719
<v Speaker 3>to find out, we don't necessarily know where that's going

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:20.560
<v Speaker 3>to go because there's a shocking reveal.

0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:25.920
<v Speaker 2>That's right, okay, so Forge his machine. It feels promising,

0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:31.560
<v Speaker 2>but it doesn't quite work, and Storm is devastated. Right So,

0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:38.120
<v Speaker 2>after this, Storm learns, because Forge comes clean, that the

0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:41.960
<v Speaker 2>weapon that stole her powers was created in part on

0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:45.120
<v Speaker 2>his own designs that he did for the government after

0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:49.600
<v Speaker 2>he got out of the military. It doesn't based on

0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:53.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, Forge's comics biographies. He was in Vietnam and

0:40:53.200 --> 0:40:56.439
<v Speaker 2>then actually knew some of the marauders and then ended

0:40:56.520 --> 0:40:58.560
<v Speaker 2>up kind of being adrift for a while and then

0:40:58.640 --> 0:41:03.320
<v Speaker 2>did this work for the military. Storm is obviously feels betrayed,

0:41:03.640 --> 0:41:09.439
<v Speaker 2>feels disgusted to find out that Forge is not trying

0:41:09.480 --> 0:41:13.320
<v Speaker 2>to help her out of this selflessness and willingness to

0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:16.840
<v Speaker 2>help her and help mutant kind, but out of guilt

0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:19.399
<v Speaker 2>because of what he's done. So she leaves. She rides

0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:21.600
<v Speaker 2>off on her horse, but on the ride out, she

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:25.479
<v Speaker 2>encounters this magical al demon that returns her to Forge's house.

0:41:26.239 --> 0:41:29.080
<v Speaker 2>And we discover this because this al tells us as

0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:33.840
<v Speaker 2>it wraps her, and it's like gnarled talons that it

0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 2>feeds on misery. It feeds on depression and sadness and

0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:42.880
<v Speaker 2>angst and Storm's heartbreak, the devastation that not having her

0:41:43.000 --> 0:41:45.719
<v Speaker 2>powers and losing her friends or her family is just

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:48.839
<v Speaker 2>like candy to this demon, and it will not let

0:41:48.920 --> 0:41:49.160
<v Speaker 2>her go.

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:52.560
<v Speaker 4>And the episode it's terrifying. I know it's a very

0:41:52.640 --> 0:41:55.839
<v Speaker 4>demon bath. I know it's but it's very demon bad.

0:41:55.920 --> 0:41:59.120
<v Speaker 4>This kind of feeds on your nightmas Like I'm really interested.

0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:02.160
<v Speaker 4>At first, I'm like, is it demon bad?

0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:05.680
<v Speaker 3>Like I'm thinking about the kind of crazy people that

0:42:05.800 --> 0:42:07.680
<v Speaker 3>feed on nightmares and X Men shows.

0:42:07.800 --> 0:42:09.840
<v Speaker 4>But the Owl, I have to say, I don't necessarily

0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:12.399
<v Speaker 4>know where they're taking this from.

0:42:12.480 --> 0:42:14.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm interested to see who is behind it and what

0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:17.279
<v Speaker 3>it means, or if it's some new thing they're adding.

0:42:17.040 --> 0:42:17.920
<v Speaker 4>To storms Cannon.

0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:23.160
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, overall, again, I appreciate the ambition of the

0:42:23.239 --> 0:42:25.120
<v Speaker 3>stories they're trying to tell here. I did see a

0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:27.440
<v Speaker 3>really funny meme that also I think ended up in

0:42:27.480 --> 0:42:31.279
<v Speaker 3>our discord that was like it's be standing in front

0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:33.359
<v Speaker 3>of like a graph and it's like, at this rate,

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:39.799
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna get you know, Emma and Scott, and they

0:42:39.880 --> 0:42:42.840
<v Speaker 3>are setting through these storylines like they are like we

0:42:42.960 --> 0:42:43.920
<v Speaker 3>are getting everything we.

0:42:44.000 --> 0:42:44.839
<v Speaker 4>Want to do in here.

0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:49.320
<v Speaker 2>I will say that being said, you're exactly right, but

0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:54.520
<v Speaker 2>they are still like at they're basically in the same

0:42:54.719 --> 0:43:00.560
<v Speaker 2>era like oh you early nineties post post Fall of

0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:04.800
<v Speaker 2>the Morlocks, ish like anywhere from X Men two hundred

0:43:05.520 --> 0:43:09.120
<v Speaker 2>Trial of Magneto to like X Men two thirteen or

0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:10.600
<v Speaker 2>something there.

0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:13.920
<v Speaker 3>Some of it's even going in like opposite directions like this. Yeah,

0:43:13.960 --> 0:43:16.520
<v Speaker 3>with the storm depowering which happens before, it's very much

0:43:16.600 --> 0:43:20.040
<v Speaker 3>still in that Clamont space. It will be interesting to

0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:24.520
<v Speaker 3>see if so say this is like finishing the Clamont

0:43:24.600 --> 0:43:27.600
<v Speaker 3>era right, and then if season two is the nineties

0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:30.719
<v Speaker 3>like Jim Lee era, and then if season three is

0:43:30.840 --> 0:43:33.640
<v Speaker 3>like the two thousands Grant Morrison New X Men era,

0:43:33.800 --> 0:43:36.080
<v Speaker 3>I would love to see if that's that's my prediction

0:43:36.280 --> 0:43:37.839
<v Speaker 3>for the for the eras they're going to come.

0:43:38.040 --> 0:43:40.080
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, another great episode. Ten out of ten. I

0:43:40.160 --> 0:43:42.560
<v Speaker 4>wish Life Death was longer, but like I'm very proud

0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:43.120
<v Speaker 4>of the ambition.

0:44:00.000 --> 0:44:03.480
<v Speaker 2>So we understand that, like I'm positive that there's gonna

0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:06.160
<v Speaker 2>be members of our audience who are just jumping on

0:44:06.440 --> 0:44:08.359
<v Speaker 2>X Men ninety seven, maybe haven't caught all the way

0:44:08.440 --> 0:44:10.640
<v Speaker 2>up with X Men the animated series or don't plan to,

0:44:11.400 --> 0:44:14.520
<v Speaker 2>so we wanted to loop them in on some important

0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:17.960
<v Speaker 2>questions just to kind of close the gaps so you

0:44:18.160 --> 0:44:21.319
<v Speaker 2>understand where the story's picking up for X Men ninety seven.

0:44:21.320 --> 0:44:23.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna pose you some questions, Rosie, and you can

0:44:23.680 --> 0:44:26.880
<v Speaker 2>answer them. So Charles, he's dead, what happened?

0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:27.520
<v Speaker 4>Okay?

0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:30.560
<v Speaker 3>To really answer this question in the nerdy way that

0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:32.920
<v Speaker 3>I want to answer it, we're gonna have to get

0:44:32.960 --> 0:44:36.520
<v Speaker 3>into full spoilers, so put your ear muffs on or

0:44:36.760 --> 0:44:39.920
<v Speaker 3>just skip until we're over probably a couple of minutes.

0:44:40.880 --> 0:44:43.880
<v Speaker 3>Charles may or may not be alive and in space,

0:44:44.480 --> 0:44:47.360
<v Speaker 3>and that will probably be coming very soon. He is

0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:51.000
<v Speaker 3>chilling with the Shea once again, gonna trigger Scott's horrible

0:44:51.040 --> 0:44:55.480
<v Speaker 3>abandonment issues because just like Scott's real dad, his dad

0:44:55.560 --> 0:44:59.279
<v Speaker 3>went up into space, and that is gonna become likely

0:44:59.320 --> 0:45:01.520
<v Speaker 3>a major part of what we see going forward. And

0:45:02.920 --> 0:45:05.720
<v Speaker 3>I think that the MCU version is going to follow

0:45:05.840 --> 0:45:10.759
<v Speaker 3>that space Shea Star Jammers and explore it because the

0:45:10.800 --> 0:45:12.800
<v Speaker 3>truth is we that's something we haven't seen with the

0:45:13.000 --> 0:45:15.360
<v Speaker 3>X Men properly. So I think the fact it's going

0:45:15.440 --> 0:45:18.000
<v Speaker 3>to come into play here and will likely come in

0:45:18.080 --> 0:45:19.640
<v Speaker 3>to play with MCU is interesting.

0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:22.399
<v Speaker 4>So yes, if you're a big Charles Exavier Stan, don't worry.

0:45:22.440 --> 0:45:23.799
<v Speaker 4>He's not really dead. He's coming back.

0:45:24.280 --> 0:45:27.200
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Scott's dead abandoning him? How did that happen?

0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:33.080
<v Speaker 3>So Scott's dad, he made the Star Jammas. They'd been

0:45:33.120 --> 0:45:38.040
<v Speaker 3>imprisoned again, like by people who were in Cootes with

0:45:38.200 --> 0:45:42.160
<v Speaker 3>the Shi'a Empire, and they kind of like went around

0:45:42.239 --> 0:45:46.000
<v Speaker 3>doing cool stuff and he just had more important.

0:45:45.600 --> 0:45:48.600
<v Speaker 4>Things to do then raise a kid.

0:45:48.680 --> 0:45:51.920
<v Speaker 3>The best part is they only reconciled after Scott was

0:45:51.960 --> 0:45:54.400
<v Speaker 3>killed by Apocalypse, So Scott's really going through it and

0:45:54.520 --> 0:45:57.960
<v Speaker 3>he has like some severe, severe, severe daddy issues.

0:45:58.000 --> 0:46:01.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, Bishop is we fun? Bishop is from another

0:46:01.440 --> 0:46:03.560
<v Speaker 2>timeline tell us about Bishop from the Future.

0:46:03.640 --> 0:46:07.680
<v Speaker 4>Bishop. I love Bishop so much, so incredibly.

0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:10.440
<v Speaker 3>Bishop's like actually like a you know, he's like a

0:46:10.560 --> 0:46:13.399
<v Speaker 3>nineties character, which feels crazy because I feel like he's.

0:46:13.520 --> 0:46:17.360
<v Speaker 2>Guns were big for nineties. Big character was created in

0:46:17.440 --> 0:46:21.000
<v Speaker 2>the nineties. If they have if they have a big guns, yeah.

0:46:21.520 --> 0:46:21.759
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:46:21.920 --> 0:46:25.160
<v Speaker 3>And as they showcased really well here, which I loved,

0:46:26.160 --> 0:46:29.359
<v Speaker 3>they showcased Bishop's really cool powers, which are he can

0:46:29.520 --> 0:46:32.960
<v Speaker 3>like take in other people's power and then force it

0:46:33.040 --> 0:46:34.840
<v Speaker 3>out right, So if you shoot at him, if you

0:46:34.920 --> 0:46:37.000
<v Speaker 3>fight him, He's going to take it in and blow

0:46:37.000 --> 0:46:41.640
<v Speaker 3>it up. Now, this is very interesting stuff here, and

0:46:41.760 --> 0:46:44.560
<v Speaker 3>you're going to get a lot of X Men law,

0:46:45.520 --> 0:46:47.839
<v Speaker 3>which is he was actually.

0:46:47.560 --> 0:46:49.719
<v Speaker 4>Born eighty years into the.

0:46:49.800 --> 0:46:54.680
<v Speaker 3>Future and raised in a mutant concentration camp, I think

0:46:54.800 --> 0:46:55.719
<v Speaker 3>is the best way to put it.

0:46:55.920 --> 0:47:00.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, after the Dun Dun Dun Summer's Rebellion, not.

0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:01.359
<v Speaker 2>Scott but another one.

0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:03.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and Bishop's.

0:47:03.520 --> 0:47:07.399
<v Speaker 3>Grandmother told him about oh the X Men, my old,

0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:12.120
<v Speaker 3>my old allies. Now cininically you may be surprised to

0:47:12.160 --> 0:47:14.360
<v Speaker 3>find out who that grandmother may be in the future.

0:47:14.400 --> 0:47:16.040
<v Speaker 4>But basically, Bishop's.

0:47:15.640 --> 0:47:19.719
<v Speaker 3>Uh, really cool future freedom fighter in an era where

0:47:19.760 --> 0:47:22.279
<v Speaker 3>the X Men don't exist. But as we've seen he

0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:26.200
<v Speaker 3>is he can travel kind of through dimensions, through Pauls

0:47:26.200 --> 0:47:28.960
<v Speaker 3>and through time and has become an allies with the

0:47:29.200 --> 0:47:32.160
<v Speaker 3>X Men of the past that he was once told about.

0:47:33.200 --> 0:47:35.719
<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for that, guys. I can I

0:47:36.680 --> 0:47:39.600
<v Speaker 2>wake up every Wednesday just excited that we're getting a

0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:40.799
<v Speaker 2>new episode of this show.

0:47:40.880 --> 0:47:42.399
<v Speaker 4>I'm it's truly a joy.

0:47:43.239 --> 0:47:46.360
<v Speaker 2>We're very lucky the best. Let's do Uh, Let's do

0:47:46.440 --> 0:47:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Who's Who? Every show Uh, we close the show with

0:47:49.040 --> 0:47:51.600
<v Speaker 2>a variety of fast moving segments. Today we're gonna do

0:47:51.640 --> 0:47:53.480
<v Speaker 2>Who's Who, and which we talk about some of our

0:47:53.520 --> 0:47:57.480
<v Speaker 2>favorite weird characters from given universe. This episode we're doing

0:47:57.520 --> 0:48:01.160
<v Speaker 2>our favorite mutant weirdos. Rosie, give us a mutant weirdo

0:48:01.440 --> 0:48:02.040
<v Speaker 2>that you love.

0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:05.160
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I've got like three, so I'm going to it

0:48:05.200 --> 0:48:07.960
<v Speaker 3>really quickly. Skin he's just got like a lot of

0:48:08.040 --> 0:48:11.080
<v Speaker 3>extra skin. He can stretch, he can do weird things.

0:48:11.960 --> 0:48:14.719
<v Speaker 3>He's got like feet and feet of extra skin.

0:48:15.040 --> 0:48:15.439
<v Speaker 4>Very weird.

0:48:15.600 --> 0:48:18.080
<v Speaker 3>Loved that character. Was big fan of that whole team

0:48:18.120 --> 0:48:20.000
<v Speaker 3>of kids who got abducted by the Falance.

0:48:20.560 --> 0:48:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:48:21.200 --> 0:48:24.640
<v Speaker 4>Joseph, He's just a magnet Oa clone. Yes, that's it.

0:48:24.800 --> 0:48:26.520
<v Speaker 4>He's just like a weird magnet Oa clone.

0:48:26.640 --> 0:48:28.120
<v Speaker 3>And it seemed like it was gonna be a really

0:48:28.160 --> 0:48:32.320
<v Speaker 3>big story, but it ended up just like going Nowhere,

0:48:32.320 --> 0:48:34.280
<v Speaker 3>which I love because he's kind of like a whatever

0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:36.720
<v Speaker 3>character now the best mutant who is still my favorite

0:48:36.760 --> 0:48:39.120
<v Speaker 3>mutant who I'd love to see more. There was a

0:48:40.360 --> 0:48:43.839
<v Speaker 3>mini series called Worst Mutine Ever about a kid called

0:48:43.880 --> 0:48:46.200
<v Speaker 3>Bailey Hoskins, and he is the Worst Mutine Ever, but

0:48:46.280 --> 0:48:48.760
<v Speaker 3>he's not my favorite character. In that book, they introduce

0:48:48.800 --> 0:48:50.880
<v Speaker 3>a character who is a black teenage girl called Miranda

0:48:50.880 --> 0:48:54.279
<v Speaker 3>who can change time. And in the final issue of

0:48:54.400 --> 0:48:57.920
<v Speaker 3>Worst Mutant Ever by Michael Walsh and Max Bemis of

0:48:58.120 --> 0:49:02.000
<v Speaker 3>Emo Music Fame, I feel that Miranda is basically behind

0:49:02.239 --> 0:49:04.400
<v Speaker 3>every single retcon that's ever happened.

0:49:04.400 --> 0:49:06.560
<v Speaker 4>It's just her going through to save the world.

0:49:06.680 --> 0:49:09.520
<v Speaker 3>So anytime a team has been retcond or something's changed,

0:49:10.200 --> 0:49:13.160
<v Speaker 3>it's Miranda basically going back in time and having to

0:49:13.280 --> 0:49:16.120
<v Speaker 3>fix something so that the world and the Marvel Universe

0:49:16.200 --> 0:49:18.600
<v Speaker 3>can continue on as it goes. And I think that's

0:49:18.680 --> 0:49:20.919
<v Speaker 3>like the coolest character and I would love to see

0:49:20.920 --> 0:49:22.840
<v Speaker 3>her come back and have a book to herself.

0:49:22.880 --> 0:49:23.959
<v Speaker 4>Who's your favorite wido?

0:49:24.800 --> 0:49:31.720
<v Speaker 2>Here's my favorite weirdos spiral a real name Rita Ricochet.

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<v Speaker 2>Rita was a stunt woman in the Mojo Verse working

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<v Speaker 2>for the media Titan Mojo who love to torture the

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<v Speaker 2>X men and turn them into babies and do all

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<v Speaker 2>sorts of a wind stuff, and Spiral was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>worked for her for him, but also didn't like him

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<v Speaker 2>that much and was the kind of like arch nemesis

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<v Speaker 2>of another mojo creation, long Shot Love Spiral. And then

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we haven't seen him, but I wonder if

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<v Speaker 2>we will see him. Fabio Medina aka gold Balls gold

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<v Speaker 2>Balls his original It originally seemed like his power was

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<v Speaker 2>just to kind of like create these golden balls out

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<v Speaker 2>of his body, but later we discovered that the balls

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<v Speaker 2>were the balls were actually eggs. This became the basically

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<v Speaker 2>the crux of mutant immortality, which we saw during the

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<v Speaker 2>Krakoa era. And then finally glob Herman. He's just made

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<v Speaker 2>of wax. This is it the legend glob Herman. He's

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<v Speaker 2>basically got a wax body and you can see through

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<v Speaker 2>the wax into his like internal organs and skeleton.

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<v Speaker 3>Love that one of the legendary characters of all X

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<v Speaker 3>Men times, glob Herman. Love that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's it for our show, Rosie. Anything you're looking forward.

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<v Speaker 3>To, Yes, there is a really fantastic book called Gleam

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<v Speaker 3>that was created by cartoonists called Freddy Carrasco. It was

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<v Speaker 3>originally pub who's a really small publisher, and Jorn and

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<v Speaker 3>Quarterly is doing a big publication of it. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>this anime inspired Space and Time comic.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just so cool.

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<v Speaker 3>It looks beautiful. I got an early edition of it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm really I've read it already, the original, but I'm

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<v Speaker 3>really excited to re explore that. And i would just

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<v Speaker 3>recommend it for anyone who likes a strange array of

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<v Speaker 3>short stories that just showcase the comic form.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm really excited about how for you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm currently reading Catherine Lacy's Biography of X, which is

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<v Speaker 2>this wild story about a artist who rose to prominence

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<v Speaker 2>and then did not want her biography written, but then

0:51:41.760 --> 0:51:45.800
<v Speaker 2>an unauthorized biography comes out, so her former partner, Ex's

0:51:45.880 --> 0:51:47.440
<v Speaker 2>former partner is like, well, I'm going to write the

0:51:47.480 --> 0:51:53.600
<v Speaker 2>real biography, and she discovers incredible secrets from X's life,

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<v Speaker 2>including that she was born in and lived for a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of her early life in what's called the Southern Territory,

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<v Speaker 2>the southern part of the United States that seceded in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen forty five and remained an independent, authoritarian nation for

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<v Speaker 2>the following several decades. It's a crazy book and I'm

0:52:15.239 --> 0:52:15.880
<v Speaker 2>really enjoying it.

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<v Speaker 4>That sounds amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it for our show. See you next time, see

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<v Speaker 2>you next time.

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<v Speaker 1>Bye,