Speaker 1: Hello.
Speaker 2: My name is Jason Concepcion and I'm Rosy Night and
Speaker 2: to me my X ray Vision, our x ray Vision.
Speaker 2: This is the podcast where we dive deep into your
Speaker 2: favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture. We're turning to
Speaker 2: your feeds on a regular cadence in May, but X
Speaker 2: MEN ninety seven is on. We just could not wait
Speaker 2: to share our thoughts with you. In today's special preview episode,
Speaker 2: we'll be talking about some ongoing nerd stuff news, including
Speaker 2: a silver Surfer casting question mark. Rosie has some thoughts
Speaker 2: about whether that is entirely accurate. Disney defends itself from
Speaker 2: a investor uprising, and in the airline Volks, we talk
Speaker 2: about x N ninety seven. Let's go. First up in news,
Speaker 2: Disney fens off their activist investor uprising, Nelson Peltz again
Speaker 2: campaigning for a board seat, has been rebuffed in a
Speaker 2: voter campaign that saw Disney spending some forty dollars on
Speaker 2: marketing to let their investor base, which includes a lot
Speaker 2: of just regular folks who have Disney stock. We saw
Speaker 2: a pr campaign to let them know, hey, you got
Speaker 2: a vote on this, and Bob Eiger and the board
Speaker 2: emerge victorious.
Speaker 3: Your thoughts, Rosie, Well, this is the reason that this
Speaker 3: is interesting is not just because oh it's business news.
Speaker 4: And we love to talk about it.
Speaker 3: But the uprising is being puppet masted by everyone favorite
Speaker 3: novel Disney villain, Ike Palma. So he and Pelts have
Speaker 3: been trying to do this for a long time. Get
Speaker 3: rid of Eiger.
Speaker 4: Yeah, talk about they don't want any women in movies.
Speaker 3: They hate the woe kagenda.
Speaker 4: Why why did black Panther have to be or we
Speaker 4: don't need it? Yeah, why does that have to happen?
Speaker 3: So honestly, always happy to see these guys taken out.
Speaker 3: Anything that makes Ike Palma are upset makes me happy.
Speaker 2: Get about it here.
Speaker 3: I was actually surprised because I did think with the
Speaker 3: issues that Iers had in recent kind of years, it
Speaker 3: might have been more of a problem during his little
Speaker 3: kind of comeback. It hasn't gone necessarily the way he wanted.
Speaker 3: But Disney had that big they'd actually made a ton
Speaker 3: of money off Marvel and Star Wars in that time,
Speaker 3: No surprises, So yeah, suck at Pelma. Get out it,
Speaker 3: get out of it, Get out of it.
Speaker 2: In more news, the silver Surfer has been catching for
Speaker 2: the upcoming Fantastic Stick for movie. Deadline reports that Julia Garner,
Speaker 2: who you might remember from Ozark, has been cast as
Speaker 2: shar La Ball, But Rosie asks, does that mean that
Speaker 2: the story that she's cast as a Silver Surfer is
Speaker 2: necessarily accurate? Your thoughts?
Speaker 4: So this is my theory? Would I love a female
Speaker 4: Silver Surfa?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 4: Have we heard?
Speaker 2: We love it?
Speaker 3: Have we heard that this was a rumor they've been
Speaker 3: trying to do for a long time. I was actually
Speaker 3: if I was trying to cast a non binary person
Speaker 3: as a silver Surfer in my very beloved fan cast
Speaker 3: from a few years ago. But we've heard about this
Speaker 3: rumor of the female silver Surfer? Is it going to
Speaker 3: be Annya Taylor Joy? Julia Ganna fits that same mold.
Speaker 3: But the reality is I'm not gonna get too excited
Speaker 3: yet because I do believe there is a chance that
Speaker 3: Deadline just were told she's been cast as Charla Ball
Speaker 3: in the Silver SFA movie, and then someone there was like, oh, well,
Speaker 3: she played you know, Charlah Ball was the Silver Surfer
Speaker 3: one time, one time in Earth Facts, you know. So
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna fully believe that she is the Silver
Speaker 3: Surfer because that is not necessarily a big part of
Speaker 3: Charla Ball's character. Scharla Ball is a Noorin rad aka
Speaker 3: the Silver Surfer's lover, and she's you know, she's very
Speaker 3: famously in the Silver Surfer animated series, which is fantastic
Speaker 3: and you should definitely check it out.
Speaker 4: And I hope that she is going to get to
Speaker 4: be the Silver Surfer.
Speaker 3: And actually, Jason, you made a great point, which is
Speaker 3: look at Victor timely.
Speaker 4: Look at these characters.
Speaker 3: That they're bringing in who've been in like four issues.
Speaker 3: So actually them taking the fact that Charli Ball was
Speaker 3: Silver Surfer in like a couple of issues actually makes
Speaker 3: quite a lot of sense.
Speaker 4: What I'm most interested in is with Charla Ball.
Speaker 3: Does this mean that we're going to get to see
Speaker 3: zen Law and all of Nora and Rad's home and
Speaker 3: that would be really cool because I love that stuff
Speaker 3: and the power cosmic and kind of Galactus. Okay, and
Speaker 3: you asked one of my favorite questions, which is, now
Speaker 3: we have female Silver Surfer.
Speaker 2: Pot we get who we get Lady Galactus?
Speaker 3: Well, we get galactis I hope? So I want to
Speaker 3: see Galactus. Let's let's noy Bob Iger and now some
Speaker 3: Poults and make it all women. So bob By yours
Speaker 3: for it. Sorry, sorry Poults, now some pounds and at
Speaker 3: it He's like, oh, I'm a Selvasafa superstart.
Speaker 4: I can't imagine that she could ever be a woman.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And then finally new X Men line coming the days
Speaker 2: of Krakoa or are have sadly sadly and I mean this,
Speaker 2: I'm very sad. I'm I'm so sad that the Kracoa
Speaker 2: peak is done. It needed to happen, but this was
Speaker 2: the highest the X Men have ever road in mar Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's the most relevant they've ever been in a in
Speaker 2: twenty years. It's the most powerful they've been ever in
Speaker 2: the history of them as characters within the universe. And
Speaker 2: it's over at south By Southwest. The ex Office announced
Speaker 2: a bunch of new projects, and the one that we're
Speaker 2: really interested in is Exceptional x Men, written by show
Speaker 2: pal eve L euing with art Wow.
Speaker 3: Ex Rason Bestie writing the X Men, I can't believe it.
Speaker 2: Let's go tell us what it's about.
Speaker 4: Official solicit mutant Kind's two greatest teachers Mold the next
Speaker 4: generation of X Men.
Speaker 3: Kate Pride has returned home to Chicago, Eve, you just
Speaker 3: can't help yourself. Following the war with Orcis, having stepped
Speaker 3: away from the world of mutantdom, she is nevertheless called
Speaker 3: back into action as she crosses paths with a trio
Speaker 3: of new young mutants, Bronze, Axo and Melee, who clearly
Speaker 3: need training and guidance.
Speaker 4: Unfortunately for Kate, Emma Frost thinks, so as well, this
Speaker 4: is going to be a gay book.
Speaker 2: Man, So let me just mutant Kind's two greatest teachers.
Speaker 2: I had never thought about, like a power ranking of
Speaker 2: Mutant Kine's greatest teachers.
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: I think that Listen Wolverine ran the school for a while,
Speaker 2: and I think he did a pretty good job. Storm
Speaker 2: is up there. For me, Storm has got to be
Speaker 2: up there. But I gotta say I kind of don't
Speaker 2: disagree that Cad and Emma are the two greatest teachers.
Speaker 3: It is huge everywhere. She's been teaching them in Upstate
Speaker 3: New York. She's been teaching him in Genosha, She's been
Speaker 3: teaching him on Krakoa. Emma Frost is a real one.
Speaker 3: I love her so much. I think this is really great.
Speaker 4: I love that this has three new mutants like who
Speaker 4: we haven't met before.
Speaker 3: Also, Eve said, I hope that for some thirteen or
Speaker 3: fourteen year old readers, this might be the first comic
Speaker 3: book they pick up. And I love that mindset because
Speaker 3: that's definitely why I was thinking of with Godzilla, Monster Island,
Speaker 3: Summer Camp, and I think Eva is the person to
Speaker 3: do it. Also, the other teams, obviously Jed McKay, who's
Speaker 3: like the Marvel stalwart right now, he's doing a book
Speaker 3: with Ryan Stegman if you're an Invincible fan, which is
Speaker 3: just adjectiveless X Men, so just X Men, and then
Speaker 3: Gail Simone on ther Yeah, and I believe that will
Speaker 3: make her like if this is an ongoing Uncanny book,
Speaker 3: she could really be breaking some new ground here. And
Speaker 3: that's going to be your more classic Rogue, Gambit, Nightcrawler,
Speaker 3: Jubilee and Wolverine team. And what was really cool is
Speaker 3: they released these with an interlocking cover, you know, kind
Speaker 3: of like what they did with X Men ninety one,
Speaker 3: where you could see each of the different teams and
Speaker 3: each of those covers will join together. If you want
Speaker 3: to know who's going to be on the main X
Speaker 3: Men team, Cyclops, Beast, Magneto, Silock, Kid, Omega and Temper
Speaker 3: formerly known as Oyer, as well as Magic Illiana Everybody
Speaker 3: Loves Her and shocking addition Juggernaut.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 4: So I think these are going to be some really exciting,
Speaker 4: really exciting books.
Speaker 2: I'm excited because the X Men listen, I weep for
Speaker 2: the Krakoa era. At the same time, my introduction to
Speaker 2: the X Men is like a week to week reader
Speaker 2: was really this outlaw period when they were running around
Speaker 2: in the outback of Australia. So a return to that
Speaker 2: kind of vibe is very very exciting to me. Next
Speaker 2: up more X Men with the X Men ninety seven.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Then when the first two episodes dropped and I hit
Speaker 2: play and that music hit, I was like, I can't
Speaker 2: believe this is back. I can't do this.
Speaker 3: And not just that, like something that I couldn't quite
Speaker 3: that hadn't quite considered how exciting it would be is
Speaker 3: getting to see these characters who some of them were
Speaker 3: in the show but who didn't get to and that opening,
Speaker 3: like getting to see Bishop in that iconic X Men opening,
Speaker 3: and the way that they kind of reimagined it, which
Speaker 3: for so many of us is an iconic maybe the
Speaker 3: most iconic cartoon opening of all time.
Speaker 4: It's up there with anime, and a lot of American shows.
Speaker 3: Never get a theme tune and opening that is up
Speaker 3: there with that catchiness of what anime can do.
Speaker 4: It was magical. I went into this with.
Speaker 3: Like relatively low expectations only because how do you build
Speaker 3: on something that is so iconic. That Also, a lot
Speaker 3: of what we love about it is more about our
Speaker 3: own nostalgia for it, Like when you go back, it's
Speaker 3: it's It was kind of rushed out, and the show
Speaker 3: doesn't necessarily animation wise, there were rough edges, but so
Speaker 3: much of what we love about it is our own
Speaker 3: interactions with it and how it shaped our love for
Speaker 3: these characters. So to be able to build on that
Speaker 3: and create something that feels relevant in the modern day
Speaker 3: that is in conversation with the audience, that also makes
Speaker 3: the subtext of The X Men so much more explicit.
Speaker 2: Much just that's part that the anime d beautiful. Okay,
Speaker 2: so let's get into it. Episode one and episode two,
Speaker 2: to Me My x Men and Mutant Liberation begins. This
Speaker 2: is the first two episode drop. When the show launched.
Speaker 2: To Me My x Men, Charles is gone. He's up
Speaker 2: in space following the events at the UN when Henry
Speaker 2: Gyrich attempted to kill Charles Xavier. The team is struggling
Speaker 2: to kind of carry on his mission and his absence,
Speaker 2: Cyclops taking on a more explicit leadership role, and the
Speaker 2: team swings into action to protect Brazilian teen rich Kid
Speaker 2: and emerging mutant Robert Costa from human extremists, who it
Speaker 2: turns out have Sentinel tech. Where they get that done done,
Speaker 2: Jean Gray finds out where they got it. They got
Speaker 2: it from Bolivar Trask, aka the un Musk of mutant
Speaker 2: genocides he loves to do it, who is teamed up
Speaker 2: with a sentient Sentinel master Mold to create new Sentinel tech.
Speaker 2: The X Men defeat Trask and the Mold, and later
Speaker 2: in what can only be described as an incredible jaw
Speaker 2: drop it twist, so we discover that Charles named his
Speaker 2: former arch rival supervillain Magneto as his heir, and Magneto
Speaker 2: is now in full legal control of the school.
Speaker 4: What and he says to me, my x Men, you
Speaker 4: are my x Men now?
Speaker 3: So this is so this is really fun, like I
Speaker 3: love this so much, and basically this is a really
Speaker 3: smart thing because it echoes the opening episode that we
Speaker 3: get of X Men ninety two, which is all about
Speaker 3: that big sentinel action. Nice to see the master mold,
Speaker 3: which is like a nineteen sixty six.
Speaker 4: Stanley Jack Kirby creation from X Men fifty.
Speaker 3: Then we also get that really famous moment of Magneto
Speaker 3: being in charge of the school.
Speaker 4: But they play it so well here in the comics.
Speaker 4: It was just like in a.
Speaker 3: Nineteen eighty seven issue of New Mutants, they're like, oh,
Speaker 3: Magneto is the head master, Now, how's that going. But
Speaker 3: here we get that great and he's in that classic
Speaker 3: m costume and he turns around.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you'll find it's all mine.
Speaker 3: And if you know the comics, you may get a
Speaker 3: hint of Charles's true fate from the fact that Magneto
Speaker 3: has arrived.
Speaker 4: And then we're onto episode two. I mean, that's gotta
Speaker 4: be one of the best cliffhangers of like all times.
Speaker 4: It's so good.
Speaker 2: It's a shot.
Speaker 3: If you're only your main interaction with the X Men
Speaker 3: is this cartoon and kind of the movies and stuff,
Speaker 3: that's gotta blow you away.
Speaker 4: Like if you're not like us and you know this
Speaker 4: stuff inside out.
Speaker 3: Even for me. It gave me chills, and I gave
Speaker 3: Magneto why is he so sexy?
Speaker 4: Why does he have.
Speaker 2: A Gambit? Gibbitt is asking that very question.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Gambit, Gambit. I just have to say
Speaker 4: the reveal.
Speaker 3: My Gambit's just cooking in the kitchen with like a
Speaker 3: crop top on.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, I get it. I was like,
Speaker 4: this show is like gay gay, like this is like
Speaker 4: Lisa show, like folk. We are people who love the
Speaker 4: X Man. I was like, we all blast.
Speaker 2: I am very very happy that Gambit is essentially a
Speaker 2: Cajun himbo in this beautiful as it should be. Okay,
Speaker 2: liberation begins. Magneto or is our new headmaster. Guess what?
Speaker 2: Scott hates it? Hey, I guess you hate guess you.
Speaker 4: Hate it more?
Speaker 2: The humans? The humans really really hate it. Rogue surprisingly
Speaker 2: into it.
Speaker 3: Okay, gambits together in the Savage Lands.
Speaker 2: They have what is their relationship about? We're gonna learn
Speaker 2: more about it, don't worry you. Enforced led by Val
Speaker 2: Cooper storm the mansion. They're like, you got to give
Speaker 2: us the super villain and international criminal terrorist Magneto. And
Speaker 2: Magneto's like, listen, I'm trying to go straight. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go on trial and if I win, then then I'm
Speaker 2: integrated into society because that's how the system should work.
Speaker 2: And they're not go all right. The Friends of Humanity
Speaker 2: aka human terrorists who hate mutants attack the trial and
Speaker 2: very very January sixth, and let me just say, like
Speaker 2: after the attempted assassination of Charles on that very same
Speaker 2: un stage, we need to get the un like.
Speaker 4: U Instata, get bassacure Amen.
Speaker 2: The X Men defeat them, but Storm is depowered potentially
Speaker 2: for good when she jumps in front of a blast
Speaker 2: intended for Magneto. Magneto then enters negotiations to repatriate any
Speaker 2: mutant who wants to leave what is a what is
Speaker 2: a very biased American society to the mutant nation of Genosha.
Speaker 2: Should they wish to leave, If they want to go,
Speaker 2: they can go. Rogue then uses her powers to acquire
Speaker 2: the medical knowledge necessary to deliver genes baby. The doctor
Speaker 2: didn't want to work on mutants, Okay, whatever, and then Storm,
Speaker 2: now depowered, takes a bus away from the Seamen Leek, I.
Speaker 3: Just have to say something here, and this is something
Speaker 3: I love about the show this is a new power
Speaker 3: for Rogue, Like she can she can take people's powers, yeah,
Speaker 3: but now she can just take a human's talents.
Speaker 4: Like I love it.
Speaker 3: He was a bigger he deserved it, but also terrifying
Speaker 3: and fantastic. And I like this as well because this
Speaker 3: episode basically rolls in a bunch of kind of.
Speaker 4: Really important moments.
Speaker 3: You get like the two hundred trial of Magneto, as
Speaker 3: well as the birth of baby Nathan, who I believe
Speaker 3: we see on the first page of that issue. We
Speaker 3: also get Storm being depowered. But what is really interesting
Speaker 3: here is that's like a huge moment in Uncanny one
Speaker 3: to eighty six, but in there she's she's saving Rogue,
Speaker 3: who's kind of on the run, this reformed villainess, and
Speaker 3: she's about to join the team after Storm saves her.
Speaker 4: So I think we're gonna.
Speaker 3: Probably see a lot more about like Storm's connection to Magneto,
Speaker 3: because that's a big choice and it would have been
Speaker 3: easy we have broke it could have been easy to
Speaker 3: do it for that, but they decided to mix it up.
Speaker 3: And I think it also showcases just what a powerful
Speaker 3: person Storm is because she chooses to do that even
Speaker 3: for someone who used to be her foe, and if
Speaker 3: we're lucky, this is gonna essentially lead to like some
Speaker 3: of the best Auroro storytelling. You know that this is
Speaker 3: some of the best era of Storm is when she
Speaker 3: is depowered and she can still whip Cyclops's ass.
Speaker 4: And I actually have to say, spoiler alert.
Speaker 5: We haven't type of thanks spoilerer, We haven't talked about
Speaker 5: this yet, but as a renowned, quite known Cyclops hater,
Speaker 5: I must say they actually they did such a huge job.
Speaker 1: He is so cool.
Speaker 3: This is.
Speaker 2: This is absolutely along with astonishing X Men, this is
Speaker 2: absolutely one of the best depictions of Cyclops and why
Speaker 2: he is the right leader for the X Men and
Speaker 2: a strategic mastermind. They sell it really well. They in
Speaker 2: the in the to Me My x Men, there's a
Speaker 2: moment where you know, they get shot out of the
Speaker 2: sky by the Sentinel. See you on the ground, See
Speaker 2: you on the ground, and he uses his powers, his
Speaker 2: concussive blast eyeblasts in a way that was one very
Speaker 2: original and really cool and showed you like how powerful
Speaker 2: he was. He he blasts the ground, essentially slowing his
Speaker 2: rate of fall so that he could just like land
Speaker 2: on the ground and I was like, wow, I don't
Speaker 2: think I ever I know.
Speaker 3: An The bit that I really loved was when the
Speaker 3: Human extremists like take off his they take off his visa,
Speaker 3: and he's like no, no, please, and then once they
Speaker 3: take you off, he's like just kidding and then he
Speaker 3: shoot like explodes.
Speaker 4: The whole building. My favorite version of Psyclops is in
Speaker 4: New X Memoir.
Speaker 3: He's like a very conflicted kind of adult and he's
Speaker 3: a bit of a jerk, and I felt like that
Speaker 3: was the first time I'd really seen him the Psychic
Speaker 3: Affair with Emma Frost, that was kind of the first
Speaker 3: time I'd ever seen him become interesting to me. But
Speaker 3: this is actually the first time that I thought he
Speaker 3: was really cool.
Speaker 2: And then the latest episode which dropped us this week,
Speaker 2: Fire Made Flesh, continuing the X Men animated series incredible
Speaker 2: tradition of distilling very very complicated and at times long
Speaker 2: running storylines into episodes size plots. Folks, this is one
Speaker 2: of the greatest episodes of the X Men animated series
Speaker 2: in history.
Speaker 4: Activated show.
Speaker 2: I mean, you can't and it does that They did it,
Speaker 2: and it does is titanic work in making what is
Speaker 2: a very very complicated and even to me right now, confusing,
Speaker 2: like I'm still confused by this storyline to a certain degree,
Speaker 2: and long running storyline and making it I think really
Speaker 2: crystal clear. Episode three, Fire Made Flesh. Another gene shows
Speaker 2: up at the X mansion. She knocks on the doors,
Speaker 2: like I need the X men. They were like, wait, wait,
Speaker 2: we have a gene. She's right here, she's holding a baby.
Speaker 3: What is this?
Speaker 2: And they realize their gene with the baby reads the
Speaker 2: unconscious the new gene's mind and sees mister Sinister, Oh
Speaker 2: my god, what is this? This sees a jumble of
Speaker 2: fragmented memories. But the shocking news is, after Beast runs
Speaker 2: some tests, this new gene, the stranger who just showed up,
Speaker 2: is the real gene, and the gene that just gave
Speaker 2: birth to this kid is a clone and at some
Speaker 2: point in the past. No one knows when.
Speaker 4: It could have been a long ago.
Speaker 1: It could have been a lot of love.
Speaker 2: They could have been originally, it could have been after
Speaker 2: the Phoenix lie. No one knows. Mister Sinister, an evil
Speaker 2: geneticist who's been working on mutants since the nineteenth century,
Speaker 2: switched them. What now with the real gene back the
Speaker 2: fake Jane, who comics fans will know as Madeline Pryor
Speaker 2: and who will call herself Madeline Prior by the end
Speaker 2: of this episode, uses her psychic powers to turn the
Speaker 2: mansion into a house of horrors, and she takes on
Speaker 2: the role of the villainess known as.
Speaker 4: The Goblin Queen Dun dun du dun dun duh uh.
Speaker 2: And it's an absolutely trippy and crazy adventure that ends
Speaker 2: when the Goblin Queen kind of you know, realizes that
Speaker 2: wait a second, I actually do love these people. I
Speaker 2: can't do this and I don't want to do this
Speaker 2: whole thing, and she leaves, says call me Madeline Prior,
Speaker 2: and then Ed's exits, and then we see that the
Speaker 2: baby that Madeline Prior had given birth to is infected
Speaker 2: with a techno organic virus. There's no known cure to
Speaker 2: this strain of the virus. So Bishop, who comes from
Speaker 2: the year twenty fifty five in an alternate future, says, well,
Speaker 2: wa wait, and we might have we might have some
Speaker 2: medicine in twenty fifty five that can that can heal this.
Speaker 2: I'm going to take this baby into the future. And
Speaker 2: that is the end of the episode. Folks, dude, I holy.
Speaker 4: Cow, I knew so.
Speaker 3: I think we had an inkling that they once we
Speaker 3: saw that Gene Invited Comics was pregnant, we probably had
Speaker 3: an inkling that it was.
Speaker 2: Actually I think they'd do it this quickly.
Speaker 4: I didn't think they would do it this quickly.
Speaker 3: I didn't think they'd try and wrap it up in
Speaker 3: one episode. And I also love so they did it.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of changes.
Speaker 4: Here in the comics.
Speaker 3: Madeline first appears in Uncounty X Men one sixty eight,
Speaker 3: and she's like a pilot in a plane crash. You
Speaker 3: lost her memory, and her and Scott fall in love
Speaker 3: and he's left because she looks just like ge, like Jean,
Speaker 3: and he even.
Speaker 4: Says he's like, oh my god, he looks she looks
Speaker 4: just like her. It's like, okay, bro, I love that ner.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's but the funny the interesting thing that I think,
Speaker 3: and this is actually where I wore my Fantastic four shirt.
Speaker 3: I do think I'm interested here because when Gin returns,
Speaker 3: that was actually in a JOm Burn issue of Fantastic Four,
Speaker 3: and it was super controversial because she was supposed to
Speaker 3: be dead and it was a big deal in the
Speaker 3: X office, but I feel like they're bringing in plotlines
Speaker 3: from other heroes. I would be interested to see if
Speaker 3: we see other heroes by the end, because, as we've
Speaker 3: said many times before, the animated series of X Men
Speaker 3: and Spider Man and Iron Man, even from that nineties era,
Speaker 3: they were essentially an original shared universe. You saw all
Speaker 3: different characters in each different animated series. So I'd be
Speaker 3: interested to see that. I just want to say, back
Speaker 3: on my Scott business for a moment, Scott sucks.
Speaker 4: I just need to say this.
Speaker 3: In this episode, as he is just a baby wit
Speaker 3: this woman, this woman he has had sex with, this woman,
Speaker 3: birth the child, and the moment, the moment real Gene
Speaker 3: shows up, he's like, peace out.
Speaker 2: I don't know, listen, here's the here's the problem. And
Speaker 2: I don't disagree that that is factually what happened. I
Speaker 2: think Scott, as he mentions in I think this episode
Speaker 2: of maybe the previous one, he is dealing with some
Speaker 2: very serious abandonment issues.
Speaker 4: That's his father left.
Speaker 2: I'd rather go party in space than raise my boys
Speaker 2: and goes. Currently, currently the leader of the Starjammer is
Speaker 2: one of the one of the most iconic deadbeat dads
Speaker 2: in comic history.
Speaker 4: Very likely we'll see some space.
Speaker 2: Actually, there's no question we're going to see him. Then.
Speaker 2: Of course, his his stand in father, Charles Xavier, also
Speaker 2: fled to space, and so he's he has these attachment issues.
Speaker 2: This is not to make excuses for him, but all
Speaker 2: of which is to say, I feel for the guy.
Speaker 2: Here's a question that I wanted to ask you because
Speaker 2: I was to your point. I was amazed at how
Speaker 2: quickly one they introduced this storyline, and how with such
Speaker 2: alacrity they wrapped it all up multiple not just the
Speaker 2: mattel In prior introduction, but then her morphing into the
Speaker 2: Goblin Queen, and then the wrapping up of that whole thing,
Speaker 2: and a reintroduction mister Sinister, the introduction of mister Sinister,
Speaker 2: and the reintroduction of the actual, the real Jean Gray,
Speaker 2: setting up potentially like an X Factor original X Factor
Speaker 2: team offshoot happening. Does the continuity in X may the
Speaker 2: animated series make more sense than in the comics. I
Speaker 2: kind of think, Listen, I like the comics more obviously
Speaker 2: as a comics centric reader, and I think the emotional
Speaker 2: impact is more intense and different. At the same time,
Speaker 2: if you want to just like understand what the broad
Speaker 2: outlines of the comics are, watch this show, because I
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, that's what happened. That's exactly what makes
Speaker 2: it's so much more simple in this version.
Speaker 3: This has always been my argument for them. For X
Speaker 3: Men ninety two and also the Spider Man animated series,
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 4: Does this well too. Before.
Speaker 3: You may not believe this if you're listening, but there
Speaker 3: was a time when people didn't really rate those shows
Speaker 3: very much because of the style of animation, like even
Speaker 3: though we always had that nostalgic feel for them.
Speaker 4: But my argument has always been, if you.
Speaker 3: Want to know the biggest and most important arcs in comics,
Speaker 3: watch those shows. In Spider Man, you can see the Symbia,
Speaker 3: you can see Eddie Brock, you can see how Carnage
Speaker 3: was created. You can learn all these really important things
Speaker 3: in a couple of episodes. X Men was great at
Speaker 3: that too, the Phoenix saga. You know, these are things
Speaker 3: that are so complex in the comics and can be
Speaker 3: incredibly overwhelming, especially like if you're trying to find the
Speaker 3: Goblin Queen arc.
Speaker 4: You're reading multiple different books multiplely, You're reading all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're reading the Inferno crossover series, you're all.
Speaker 3: Exactly and this is a this is a distilled down version.
Speaker 3: I think what's really cool about this that I love
Speaker 3: about the way they choose to do this stuff. I
Speaker 3: can imagine that somebody can watch this episode and go,
Speaker 3: oh my god, that blew my mind, Like, what the fuck?
Speaker 4: I want to read it. I want to know about
Speaker 4: Madeline Pryor, I want to know who she is. I
Speaker 4: think it's the.
Speaker 3: Ultimate accessibility point for people who want to read comics,
Speaker 3: and for people who want to read a different part
Speaker 3: of the comics but can't be bothered to.
Speaker 4: Read ten years, they could just watch the episode.
Speaker 3: I think they did it so well, and I love
Speaker 3: the way that they used it as a rug to
Speaker 3: pull out of the audience, like under the audience's feet.
Speaker 4: The reveal that the Gene we knew wasn't Jean, and
Speaker 4: that kind of shock of that baby not being Jeen's baby,
Speaker 4: even though Gene and Scott just basically like, that's my
Speaker 4: baby now. But yeah, I thought they rubbed that baby,
Speaker 4: but like I thought, I was so cool.
Speaker 3: And my favorite big change here is like I love
Speaker 3: the idea that Bishop is going to essentially raise Baby Nakes,
Speaker 3: who then becomes Cable.
Speaker 2: Okay, who has already been introduced in the final season
Speaker 2: of the original X Men animated series.
Speaker 3: So and I just think that is so cool. I
Speaker 3: thought they just smashed it. I thought the fast two
Speaker 3: episodes were really great, but after this one, I'm like,
Speaker 3: whatever they do.
Speaker 4: I'm all the way.
Speaker 2: Also, I was watching rewatching the final season of X
Speaker 2: Men animated series because I after watching X Men ninety seven,
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, the central the mutant metaphor for out groups,
Speaker 2: for for gay people, for the LGBTQ community, for minority,
Speaker 2: like that central metaphor is more powerful than ever. And
Speaker 2: it felt to me like, man, they're they're not running away,
Speaker 2: They're leaning into it just as hard as ever. So
Speaker 2: I went back and I watched X Men ninety two
Speaker 2: and I was like, actually, I think what's changed is
Speaker 2: the world because they were going just as hard in
Speaker 2: X Men the animated series. And what's what felt to
Speaker 2: me so powerful about X Men ninety seven and that
Speaker 2: and the way the central metaphor like hit me in
Speaker 2: my chest was that the world feels like it needs
Speaker 2: this story more, like this feels like a something that
Speaker 2: a trenchant critique of the world right now, like that's.
Speaker 3: It's really funny that, Like when I watched this, I
Speaker 3: was like, whoa, I'm shocked, Like Disney let it be
Speaker 3: this ratical.
Speaker 4: I loved how explicit they.
Speaker 3: Made it all and how it just was like, this
Speaker 3: is what the X Men's always been about, baby, And
Speaker 3: if you don't want to see like men in like
Speaker 3: tight spendex suits talking about how racism is bad, then
Speaker 3: watch another show.
Speaker 2: It also with you know, I remember being shocked by
Speaker 2: Magneto's turn to being a good guy in the Trial
Speaker 2: of Magneto and how skillfully Claremont executed that, And I
Speaker 2: just think that it was such a wonderful like recognition
Speaker 2: on Claremont's part that actually, wait a second, like Magneto
Speaker 2: the reasons he's doing this, he actually has a very
Speaker 2: accurate read on this situation. He does more accurate than
Speaker 2: Charles maybe in certain respects, and so to pivot to him,
Speaker 2: I think is amazing. And I love the way it
Speaker 2: was done in the show. I just I just think
Speaker 2: it's it makes so much sense.
Speaker 3: I also love how they made him seem they were
Speaker 3: just like Magnea was just a logical guy like that
Speaker 3: in itself is a great reason too, you.
Speaker 4: Don't even have to Yeah, he's too is he too?
Speaker 4: Is he too cool? We'll survive? Like it's so good.
Speaker 2: Onto episode four. It's Jubiley's eighteenth birthday, and you know
Speaker 2: what my girl wants to do. She wants to party.
Speaker 2: But yes, eighteen, it's a that is a landmark year.
Speaker 2: It's time to party. But guess what but the what
Speaker 2: are the boring ass adults at Xavier University want to do? Well?
Speaker 2: Magneto is like, we should be training. It's a week.
Speaker 4: He's like, He's like, good luck, Like no birthday for you.
Speaker 3: Wolverine on the other end, he's like, she should get
Speaker 3: a birthday because he's a great dad.
Speaker 4: He's a good guy.
Speaker 2: Wonderful thing about x Men ninety seven that I actually
Speaker 2: love is nobody listens to Wolverine.
Speaker 4: They know him.
Speaker 2: This is the cranky uncle who nobody listens to. Magneto's
Speaker 2: idea that hey, the enemies of Mutantom never sleep, so
Speaker 2: why should we doesn't carry the day. So Jubilee goes
Speaker 2: disappointed to a room she's hanging out with everybody's favorite
Speaker 2: Presilian rich kid, Robert Tacosta, and she finds a motendo
Speaker 2: console in her room, a video game console in a room,
Speaker 2: and she thinks, well, this must be my surprise gift.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she thinks Jean set it up for a very
Speaker 3: NIGHI Jean's always so jealous.
Speaker 4: Were on the moment of Gene, Yeah, mention of Gene.
Speaker 4: We should mention that eagle eyed viewers including us.
Speaker 3: But but you know, this is now a conversation online
Speaker 3: and our wonderful producer even pointed out to us. As
Speaker 3: you will notice in the opening of this episode, we
Speaker 3: see Gene with a ponytail, meaning the real Gene in
Speaker 3: the credits.
Speaker 1: Was not real Gene.
Speaker 2: This is real Gene, real real Gene.
Speaker 4: In the credits. Even Maddie.
Speaker 3: Maddie was in the credits of the first three episodes,
Speaker 3: which is so good and if you like, if you
Speaker 3: like kind of digging into that stuff, each of the credits,
Speaker 3: the opening credits are different, and in this one we
Speaker 3: even get a tease of Mojo.
Speaker 4: We see a havoc with Polaris and Forge. There's all
Speaker 4: different kinds of cool teasers for I think will come
Speaker 4: talk about it. So yeah, very far.
Speaker 2: Okay, So she boots it up. She boots up the console,
Speaker 2: let's play some video games. But guess what, folks, it's
Speaker 2: a trap. It's a trap set by everybody's least favorite
Speaker 2: evil interdimensional media mogul Mojo, and Jubilee and Robert costafinding
Speaker 2: themselves transported to the Mojo Verse, where, of course, on
Speaker 2: brand they are put through various terrible ordeals, including going
Speaker 2: to Genosha where they see the past, some past visions
Speaker 2: of Jubilee's actual history where she sees mutants, enslaved by
Speaker 2: Ball of our Trask, having to build various things. They're
Speaker 2: put through all these kinds of ordeals for ratings, which,
Speaker 2: of course Mojo thrives on Jubes and Roberto with the
Speaker 2: help of a digital copy of Jubilee that was put
Speaker 2: into the game in order to beta test the video
Speaker 2: game and survived.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I just want to say, this is
Speaker 3: like so interesting because I love they're taking from some
Speaker 3: really weird dark stuff here.
Speaker 4: This the old version of Jubilee in the comics is
Speaker 4: called Absessa. Yeah, and it's like this very similar.
Speaker 3: Aesthetically, but in the comics version, Absissa basically is like
Speaker 3: a slave to Mojo, and it's this really depressing thing.
Speaker 3: And here she gets to be this heroin and help Jubilee,
Speaker 3: and it's just this really great, great moment and it
Speaker 3: works really well and it's really cool.
Speaker 2: I think it's wonderful, and it was actually to me
Speaker 2: one of the strongest emotional through lines of this story.
Speaker 2: In this episode, Absissa is older. As mentioned, she is wiser.
Speaker 2: She's survived inside of the game for all this time
Speaker 2: since it was in beta testing, so she has an
Speaker 2: advanced control over her powers, and she knows the game
Speaker 2: and she knows Mojo inside out. With Absiss's help, Mojo
Speaker 2: as the final loss, is defeated, which ironically for Mojo
Speaker 2: is huge ratings. The thing that he thrives out I
Speaker 2: know that.
Speaker 4: Nobody loves it.
Speaker 3: The funniest thing is, I'm like, bro, how about you
Speaker 3: just don't have loads of slaves and they wouldn't have
Speaker 3: to constantly make weird TV to entertain them.
Speaker 4: I feel like just not having slaves would be the answer.
Speaker 4: But you know what, do I know? I'm not Mojo.
Speaker 4: I don't know nothing.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Mojo should listen also to Spiral More who Spiral
Speaker 2: is at least like in touch with how the Mojo
Speaker 2: show gets produced and understands like you need more technicians.
Speaker 2: You need more people that are actually producing anyway, Jubillian
Speaker 2: Roberto go home and they immediately make out. This is great.
Speaker 4: Yes, love this for them, Love this for them.
Speaker 3: I love the scene where like all of Juwbes's powers
Speaker 3: are kind of like popping around, very beautiful. I also
Speaker 3: want to give a shout out to my good friend
Speaker 3: Stephanie Williams, who's a brilliant writer who's written Nubia for
Speaker 3: DC and Mongol Dinosaur Marvel. She began her comic book
Speaker 3: career by making a mashup of living single and superheroes
Speaker 3: called Living Heroes and there is and it was really
Speaker 3: pop and that's kind of what with O'Neill, who's an
Speaker 3: incredible artist, and that's what kind of popped her into
Speaker 3: the megaverse of making these Marvel comics. And I think
Speaker 3: there is a huge nod to that in this episode,
Speaker 3: because we get the different world with all the different
Speaker 3: Marvel superheros. So I just want to say there was
Speaker 3: Stephanie's idea and I'm proud of it. But yeah, I
Speaker 3: love them making out. I love the teens doing the
Speaker 3: good job. I'm interested to see. I feel like maybe
Speaker 3: season two will get more about like Bobby's powers and
Speaker 3: kind of but but him and Jubilee.
Speaker 4: I'm a fan of that pairing.
Speaker 2: I like the slow roll on his powers and another
Speaker 2: thing I like having I've been watching a bunch of
Speaker 2: stuff that I needed to catch up on for our
Speaker 2: show and because I want to. And one thing I
Speaker 2: will say that that comics stories, TV and movies need
Speaker 2: more of is love. Love story. Yes, I agree, they
Speaker 2: need romance and the X Men would not be the
Speaker 2: X Men without lots of romance and love triangles. And
Speaker 2: Joe and I love this great Yeah good h Life's
Speaker 2: Death Part one. Storm is living with Forge out at
Speaker 2: his cabin out in the wilderness. Forge is using his
Speaker 2: mutant powers, which is he can build and create incredible devices,
Speaker 2: and he's using them and I think you can imagine, Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's using that power to try and make a machine
Speaker 2: to undo the damage done to Storm by the Friends
Speaker 2: of the Human Friends of Humanity and their power stealing
Speaker 2: weapon in order to return Storm's powers to her. We
Speaker 2: see all throughout this story how heartbroken Storm is the
Speaker 2: loss of her connection to nature.
Speaker 3: It's devastating And speaking of romance, these two are obviously
Speaker 3: in a little situation Hello going on, so is cooking
Speaker 3: In the very famous first splash page of Life Death
Speaker 3: is that Barry wins the Smith and it's Storm in
Speaker 3: the sheet we do get a bit of that hare
Speaker 3: so her and Forge. It's this really romantic kind of
Speaker 3: connection between these two outsiders who aren't necessarily though we
Speaker 3: do see that at one point Forge was part of
Speaker 3: a X team.
Speaker 2: Let's mention that, so yes on the there's very tantalizing
Speaker 2: shots of the wall in Forge's workshop and he has
Speaker 2: a picture of him in uniform with a bunch of
Speaker 2: other Mutants with an X right on the breast, some
Speaker 2: kind of X related team. And the members of the
Speaker 2: team are strong guy who, for those of you who
Speaker 2: don't know, is exactly.
Speaker 3: What is.
Speaker 4: Guess what the name means.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a very very strong guy. Havoc uh
Speaker 2: Scott's Scott's brother, Havoc's on again, off again, on again,
Speaker 2: off again, on again, off again girlfriend. Polaris, daughter of
Speaker 2: Magneto Wolf Spain, a notable member of the New Mutants
Speaker 2: and mad Rocks Jamie Maddrox, the multiple Man, one of
Speaker 2: my favorites of all time. So very interesting team.
Speaker 4: It seems like it's like an expector ex.
Speaker 3: Factor is yeah, expector ish maybe like yeah, depending on
Speaker 3: which way they go.
Speaker 4: But it's really cool and it kind of leans into
Speaker 4: what we saw in the mall in the beginning, which is.
Speaker 3: That opening credit scene where they kind of showed that
Speaker 3: team together with you know, Havocan Polaris having a little
Speaker 3: smooch or something. You know, lots of romance going on,
Speaker 3: and I think that's that's the correct way for this
Speaker 3: to go. But yeah, this is agree, this is adapt Look, I'm.
Speaker 4: Going to be real. I love this show.
Speaker 3: I think they do everything so perfectly. Life def is
Speaker 3: like one of my all time favorite X Men arts. Yes,
Speaker 3: I would have liked this to get his own I agree.
Speaker 2: I think it needs to strecht, but I think it
Speaker 2: will stretch out it will.
Speaker 4: I think it will too.
Speaker 3: I just want to also say in the comics, if
Speaker 3: you've never read this stuff, go and read it.
Speaker 4: It's great. But even if you don't want to do it,
Speaker 4: just seuch forges airy because they really did forge dirty.
Speaker 4: His house is so sick.
Speaker 3: I mean it's like, yeah, it's you can't like, it's
Speaker 3: just magical because he makes it with all of his power.
Speaker 4: So yeah, very interesting.
Speaker 2: It's a Willy Wonka ish type mutant.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so cool, but I understand what they're doing here.
Speaker 4: It suits this kind of like Star.
Speaker 3: Cross lovers in this moment, and obviously, as we're about
Speaker 3: to find out, we don't necessarily know where that's going
Speaker 3: to go because there's a shocking reveal.
Speaker 2: That's right, okay, so Forge his machine. It feels promising,
Speaker 2: but it doesn't quite work, and Storm is devastated. Right So,
Speaker 2: after this, Storm learns, because Forge comes clean, that the
Speaker 2: weapon that stole her powers was created in part on
Speaker 2: his own designs that he did for the government after
Speaker 2: he got out of the military. It doesn't based on
Speaker 2: you know, Forge's comics biographies. He was in Vietnam and
Speaker 2: then actually knew some of the marauders and then ended
Speaker 2: up kind of being adrift for a while and then
Speaker 2: did this work for the military. Storm is obviously feels betrayed,
Speaker 2: feels disgusted to find out that Forge is not trying
Speaker 2: to help her out of this selflessness and willingness to
Speaker 2: help her and help mutant kind, but out of guilt
Speaker 2: because of what he's done. So she leaves. She rides
Speaker 2: off on her horse, but on the ride out, she
Speaker 2: encounters this magical al demon that returns her to Forge's house.
Speaker 2: And we discover this because this al tells us as
Speaker 2: it wraps her, and it's like gnarled talons that it
Speaker 2: feeds on misery. It feeds on depression and sadness and
Speaker 2: angst and Storm's heartbreak, the devastation that not having her
Speaker 2: powers and losing her friends or her family is just
Speaker 2: like candy to this demon, and it will not let
Speaker 2: her go.
Speaker 4: And the episode it's terrifying. I know it's a very
Speaker 4: demon bath. I know it's but it's very demon bad.
Speaker 4: This kind of feeds on your nightmas Like I'm really interested.
Speaker 4: At first, I'm like, is it demon bad?
Speaker 3: Like I'm thinking about the kind of crazy people that
Speaker 3: feed on nightmares and X Men shows.
Speaker 4: But the Owl, I have to say, I don't necessarily
Speaker 4: know where they're taking this from.
Speaker 3: I'm interested to see who is behind it and what
Speaker 3: it means, or if it's some new thing they're adding.
Speaker 4: To storms Cannon.
Speaker 3: But yeah, overall, again, I appreciate the ambition of the
Speaker 3: stories they're trying to tell here. I did see a
Speaker 3: really funny meme that also I think ended up in
Speaker 3: our discord that was like it's be standing in front
Speaker 3: of like a graph and it's like, at this rate,
Speaker 3: we're gonna get you know, Emma and Scott, and they
Speaker 3: are setting through these storylines like they are like we
Speaker 3: are getting everything we.
Speaker 4: Want to do in here.
Speaker 2: I will say that being said, you're exactly right, but
Speaker 2: they are still like at they're basically in the same
Speaker 2: era like oh you early nineties post post Fall of
Speaker 2: the Morlocks, ish like anywhere from X Men two hundred
Speaker 2: Trial of Magneto to like X Men two thirteen or
Speaker 2: something there.
Speaker 3: Some of it's even going in like opposite directions like this. Yeah,
Speaker 3: with the storm depowering which happens before, it's very much
Speaker 3: still in that Clamont space. It will be interesting to
Speaker 3: see if so say this is like finishing the Clamont
Speaker 3: era right, and then if season two is the nineties
Speaker 3: like Jim Lee era, and then if season three is
Speaker 3: like the two thousands Grant Morrison New X Men era,
Speaker 3: I would love to see if that's that's my prediction
Speaker 3: for the for the eras they're going to come.
Speaker 4: But yeah, another great episode. Ten out of ten. I
Speaker 4: wish Life Death was longer, but like I'm very proud
Speaker 4: of the ambition.
Speaker 2: So we understand that, like I'm positive that there's gonna
Speaker 2: be members of our audience who are just jumping on
Speaker 2: X Men ninety seven, maybe haven't caught all the way
Speaker 2: up with X Men the animated series or don't plan to,
Speaker 2: so we wanted to loop them in on some important
Speaker 2: questions just to kind of close the gaps so you
Speaker 2: understand where the story's picking up for X Men ninety seven.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pose you some questions, Rosie, and you can
Speaker 2: answer them. So Charles, he's dead, what happened?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 3: To really answer this question in the nerdy way that
Speaker 3: I want to answer it, we're gonna have to get
Speaker 3: into full spoilers, so put your ear muffs on or
Speaker 3: just skip until we're over probably a couple of minutes.
Speaker 3: Charles may or may not be alive and in space,
Speaker 3: and that will probably be coming very soon. He is
Speaker 3: chilling with the Shea once again, gonna trigger Scott's horrible
Speaker 3: abandonment issues because just like Scott's real dad, his dad
Speaker 3: went up into space, and that is gonna become likely
Speaker 3: a major part of what we see going forward. And
Speaker 3: I think that the MCU version is going to follow
Speaker 3: that space Shea Star Jammers and explore it because the
Speaker 3: truth is we that's something we haven't seen with the
Speaker 3: X Men properly. So I think the fact it's going
Speaker 3: to come into play here and will likely come in
Speaker 3: to play with MCU is interesting.
Speaker 4: So yes, if you're a big Charles Exavier Stan, don't worry.
Speaker 4: He's not really dead. He's coming back.
Speaker 2: Okay, Scott's dead abandoning him? How did that happen?
Speaker 3: So Scott's dad, he made the Star Jammas. They'd been
Speaker 3: imprisoned again, like by people who were in Cootes with
Speaker 3: the Shi'a Empire, and they kind of like went around
Speaker 3: doing cool stuff and he just had more important.
Speaker 4: Things to do then raise a kid.
Speaker 3: The best part is they only reconciled after Scott was
Speaker 3: killed by Apocalypse, So Scott's really going through it and
Speaker 3: he has like some severe, severe, severe daddy issues.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, Bishop is we fun? Bishop is from another
Speaker 2: timeline tell us about Bishop from the Future.
Speaker 4: Bishop. I love Bishop so much, so incredibly.
Speaker 3: Bishop's like actually like a you know, he's like a
Speaker 3: nineties character, which feels crazy because I feel like he's.
Speaker 2: Guns were big for nineties. Big character was created in
Speaker 2: the nineties. If they have if they have a big guns, yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And as they showcased really well here, which I loved,
Speaker 3: they showcased Bishop's really cool powers, which are he can
Speaker 3: like take in other people's power and then force it
Speaker 3: out right, So if you shoot at him, if you
Speaker 3: fight him, He's going to take it in and blow
Speaker 3: it up. Now, this is very interesting stuff here, and
Speaker 3: you're going to get a lot of X Men law,
Speaker 3: which is he was actually.
Speaker 4: Born eighty years into the.
Speaker 3: Future and raised in a mutant concentration camp, I think
Speaker 3: is the best way to put it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, after the Dun Dun Dun Summer's Rebellion, not.
Speaker 2: Scott but another one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Bishop's.
Speaker 3: Grandmother told him about oh the X Men, my old,
Speaker 3: my old allies. Now cininically you may be surprised to
Speaker 3: find out who that grandmother may be in the future.
Speaker 4: But basically, Bishop's.
Speaker 3: Uh, really cool future freedom fighter in an era where
Speaker 3: the X Men don't exist. But as we've seen he
Speaker 3: is he can travel kind of through dimensions, through Pauls
Speaker 3: and through time and has become an allies with the
Speaker 3: X Men of the past that he was once told about.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for that, guys. I can I
Speaker 2: wake up every Wednesday just excited that we're getting a
Speaker 2: new episode of this show.
Speaker 4: I'm it's truly a joy.
Speaker 2: We're very lucky the best. Let's do Uh, Let's do
Speaker 2: Who's Who? Every show Uh, we close the show with
Speaker 2: a variety of fast moving segments. Today we're gonna do
Speaker 2: Who's Who, and which we talk about some of our
Speaker 2: favorite weird characters from given universe. This episode we're doing
Speaker 2: our favorite mutant weirdos. Rosie, give us a mutant weirdo
Speaker 2: that you love.
Speaker 3: Okay, I've got like three, so I'm going to it
Speaker 3: really quickly. Skin he's just got like a lot of
Speaker 3: extra skin. He can stretch, he can do weird things.
Speaker 3: He's got like feet and feet of extra skin.
Speaker 4: Very weird.
Speaker 3: Loved that character. Was big fan of that whole team
Speaker 3: of kids who got abducted by the Falance.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: Joseph, He's just a magnet Oa clone. Yes, that's it.
Speaker 4: He's just like a weird magnet Oa clone.
Speaker 3: And it seemed like it was gonna be a really
Speaker 3: big story, but it ended up just like going Nowhere,
Speaker 3: which I love because he's kind of like a whatever
Speaker 3: character now the best mutant who is still my favorite
Speaker 3: mutant who I'd love to see more. There was a
Speaker 3: mini series called Worst Mutine Ever about a kid called
Speaker 3: Bailey Hoskins, and he is the Worst Mutine Ever, but
Speaker 3: he's not my favorite character. In that book, they introduce
Speaker 3: a character who is a black teenage girl called Miranda
Speaker 3: who can change time. And in the final issue of
Speaker 3: Worst Mutant Ever by Michael Walsh and Max Bemis of
Speaker 3: Emo Music Fame, I feel that Miranda is basically behind
Speaker 3: every single retcon that's ever happened.
Speaker 4: It's just her going through to save the world.
Speaker 3: So anytime a team has been retcond or something's changed,
Speaker 3: it's Miranda basically going back in time and having to
Speaker 3: fix something so that the world and the Marvel Universe
Speaker 3: can continue on as it goes. And I think that's
Speaker 3: like the coolest character and I would love to see
Speaker 3: her come back and have a book to herself.
Speaker 4: Who's your favorite wido?
Speaker 2: Here's my favorite weirdos spiral a real name Rita Ricochet.
Speaker 2: Rita was a stunt woman in the Mojo Verse working
Speaker 2: for the media Titan Mojo who love to torture the
Speaker 2: X men and turn them into babies and do all
Speaker 2: sorts of a wind stuff, and Spiral was kind of
Speaker 2: worked for her for him, but also didn't like him
Speaker 2: that much and was the kind of like arch nemesis
Speaker 2: of another mojo creation, long Shot Love Spiral. And then
Speaker 2: you know, we haven't seen him, but I wonder if
Speaker 2: we will see him. Fabio Medina aka gold Balls gold
Speaker 2: Balls his original It originally seemed like his power was
Speaker 2: just to kind of like create these golden balls out
Speaker 2: of his body, but later we discovered that the balls
Speaker 2: were the balls were actually eggs. This became the basically
Speaker 2: the crux of mutant immortality, which we saw during the
Speaker 2: Krakoa era. And then finally glob Herman. He's just made
Speaker 2: of wax. This is it the legend glob Herman. He's
Speaker 2: basically got a wax body and you can see through
Speaker 2: the wax into his like internal organs and skeleton.
Speaker 3: Love that one of the legendary characters of all X
Speaker 3: Men times, glob Herman. Love that guy.
Speaker 2: Well, that's it for our show, Rosie. Anything you're looking forward.
Speaker 3: To, Yes, there is a really fantastic book called Gleam
Speaker 3: that was created by cartoonists called Freddy Carrasco. It was
Speaker 3: originally pub who's a really small publisher, and Jorn and
Speaker 3: Quarterly is doing a big publication of it. It's like
Speaker 3: this anime inspired Space and Time comic.
Speaker 4: It's just so cool.
Speaker 3: It looks beautiful. I got an early edition of it.
Speaker 3: I'm really I've read it already, the original, but I'm
Speaker 3: really excited to re explore that. And i would just
Speaker 3: recommend it for anyone who likes a strange array of
Speaker 3: short stories that just showcase the comic form.
Speaker 4: I'm really excited about how for you.
Speaker 2: I'm currently reading Catherine Lacy's Biography of X, which is
Speaker 2: this wild story about a artist who rose to prominence
Speaker 2: and then did not want her biography written, but then
Speaker 2: an unauthorized biography comes out, so her former partner, Ex's
Speaker 2: former partner is like, well, I'm going to write the
Speaker 2: real biography, and she discovers incredible secrets from X's life,
Speaker 2: including that she was born in and lived for a
Speaker 2: lot of her early life in what's called the Southern Territory,
Speaker 2: the southern part of the United States that seceded in
Speaker 2: nineteen forty five and remained an independent, authoritarian nation for
Speaker 2: the following several decades. It's a crazy book and I'm
Speaker 2: really enjoying it.
Speaker 4: That sounds amazing.
Speaker 2: That's it for our show. See you next time, see
Speaker 2: you next time.
Speaker 1: Bye,