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Speaker 1: Time now for a sports update.

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Speaker 2: The Buffalo bill scored sixteen unanswered late to.

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Speaker 1: Beat the raven They did. Wow.

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Speaker 2: Micah Parsons had a sack as the Packers defeated the

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Speaker 2: Lions twenty seven to thirteen.

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Speaker 1: And finally, statistically.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, that's a tough word to say it on Monday

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Speaker 2: morning after football, you are ten times more likely to

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Speaker 2: get bitten by a New Yorker than by a shark.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Huh wow answer, I was sleeping.

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Speaker 3: That Lions game. Yeah, I don't know what you expected.

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Speaker 3: Helped me out if you did expect something different. But

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Speaker 3: a team with two new coordinators in the Lions going

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Speaker 3: up against the Packers team that it's pretty stable and

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Speaker 3: just picked up a great defensive player. I think it's

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Speaker 3: a little unfair to judge them this quickly.

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Speaker 1: Huh.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I know you think, and I know this

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Speaker 3: is kind of our thing.

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Speaker 1: It's what we did.

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Speaker 2: I mean think that the closed What the fuck are

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Speaker 2: you talking about?

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Speaker 3: I think their windows closed because they lost to the

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Speaker 3: Packers in Week one.

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Speaker 2: I think you fire John Horrbor. You wanted to have

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Speaker 2: the DJ Lagway conversation.

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Speaker 3: I mean, well, the difference is John Harbaugh just a

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Speaker 3: bad dude. But the DJ lagway one, like, I haven't

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Speaker 3: seen anything or enough from him, So yeah, I don't

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Speaker 3: think he's the guy. He never should have been mentioned

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Speaker 3: as a Heisman candidate before he ever, you know, got

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Speaker 3: a good real like full season or good look at him.

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Speaker 3: So no, yeah, I'm ready. I'm not ready to say

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Speaker 3: this about the Detroit Lions because again, great team they

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Speaker 3: played against Week one, super motivated, you know, the defense

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Speaker 3: obviously wanting.

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Speaker 1: To look great.

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Speaker 3: And they've got two new coordinators in Detroit, and so

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Speaker 3: I kind of want to cut them some slack.

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Speaker 4: Is he you love you love stats, you love numbers.

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Speaker 4: Let me throw this one out there to kind of

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Speaker 4: uh and I know you don't. It helps my point

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Speaker 4: that you know, No, it helps my point if you do,

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Speaker 4: so I'm gonna do it that way. Let me throw

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Speaker 4: this out to try and change your mind. My friend

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Speaker 4: sent me this and I spent the last hour going

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Speaker 4: through to make sure it was real before I believed it. Wow,

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Speaker 4: Israel Jared Goff without Ben Johnson or Sean McVay is

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Speaker 4: nineteen and one as a quarterback. Wow.

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize he played twenty games without those two guys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh and seven his first year with whoever was

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Speaker 4: calling plays in LA before McVeigh came in. And then

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Speaker 4: when he went to Detroit, Anthony Lynn and Dan Campbell called.

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Speaker 3: Uh, okay called when he was just starting off, and

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Speaker 3: I know he was at number one pick and all that.

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Speaker 3: We didn't really think he was great, right, like he

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Speaker 3: needed to get number one pick.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people, right, A lot of people felt

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Speaker 2: like the Rams made it to that Super Bowl despite

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Speaker 2: Jared Goff.

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Speaker 1: It was coaching, you know, sure.

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Speaker 3: And if you want to say this actually helps my

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Speaker 3: argument here, if you want to say that when he

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Speaker 3: got to Detroit, the way they called plays didn't work

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Speaker 3: for him either, and then when Ben Johnson did it

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Speaker 3: did so then it worked. There's a reason why each

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Speaker 3: of those things happened. Right early on wasn't really that good,

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Speaker 3: and then Sean McVay came in, Okay, he can figure

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Speaker 3: things out. Then the next play callers, ooh not great obviously, Oh,

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Speaker 3: Ben Johnson he can figure this out. So the idea

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Speaker 3: that Jared Goff can be good with a good play caller,

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Speaker 3: good offensive coordinator tells me he can be good. But

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Speaker 3: I think what you're telling me is that that floor

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Speaker 3: is so low when he doesn't have a great coach

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Speaker 3: that he's not going to lift a team. He's not

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Speaker 3: going to carry a squad. He's just going to be

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Speaker 3: So you're saying he's a system guy effectively, right.

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Speaker 4: Well, of course I'm saying he's a system I think

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Speaker 4: most quarterbacks can can do much better in the right system.

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Speaker 4: But you look at Josh Allen before they fired, I

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Speaker 4: forget who the coordinator was, and they instituted Joe Brady is.

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Speaker 1: The place Kenny Dorsey?

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Speaker 4: It was Ken Dorsey. Yeah, he was good, I mean,

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Speaker 4: you know, but when he got the right play caller,

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Speaker 4: he became great. Jared Goff is terrible without a great

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Speaker 3: What is Jared Goff particularly good at? He's great in

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Speaker 3: the play action?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: Is that his biggest skill is that, Like, you have

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Speaker 3: to utilize play action a ton if you're going to

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Speaker 3: be his offensive coordinator. I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I think he's just because.

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Speaker 1: Johnson did with him, That's what it is.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's not the most mobile guy, but he

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Speaker 3: can he can roll out and make a pass. He

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Speaker 3: can make any throw. He's got the arm. Does he

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Speaker 3: have the reading the defenses audiblying type of football IQ

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Speaker 3: that I don't know, probably haven't seen enough to say

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Speaker 3: that that's the case. And so yeah, maybe he does

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Speaker 3: need the right scheme, but the right scheme is clearly available.

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Speaker 3: Is my point? Like, either the play calling is that

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Speaker 3: bad that it turns a guy who you know won

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Speaker 3: his division and you know made a divisional round of

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Speaker 3: the playoffs into a guy who can't win a single game.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's on chair guff oh nineteen and one.

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Speaker 2: But that means you think Caleb Williams is going to

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Speaker 2: be amazing this year.

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Speaker 4: I mean I think I think Caleb Williams is going

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Speaker 4: to see if a system can save him.

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Speaker 2: And if there's a system that can save him, it's

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Speaker 2: going to be Bill Jonson's system.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 1: If he's not good here, he's never going to.

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Speaker 3: Be good, right, I believe that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, I had the Lions as one of my

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Speaker 2: worst three losses of the weekend.

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Speaker 1: I did. I mean, I actually wrote it down. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I had Lions, I had the Dolphins, and I had the.

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Speaker 3: Patriots because of how they lost, because for any way

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Speaker 3: they would have lost you easy.

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Speaker 2: They were dominated at the line of scrimmage, green Bay

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Speaker 2: dominated the Detroit Lions. And I'm not saying I know

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Speaker 2: we were joking around earlier. Has the Lions window closed?

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Speaker 2: I understand what it is. You're saying that you're not

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Speaker 2: two coordinators, and because there's a lot of new people,

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Speaker 2: new faces in that building and on those sidelines. But

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Speaker 2: green Bay looked real good. Like Detroit would line up

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Speaker 2: against you and you were you would always think, as

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Speaker 2: a fan watching they're gonna out physical the other team.

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Speaker 2: Green Bay out physical Detroit yesterday from start to finish.

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Speaker 1: That was a bad luck. You know.

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Speaker 6: So every morning when I wake up, I like to

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Speaker 6: guess what are the topics going to be on first take?

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Speaker 6: I know some people are.

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Speaker 3: Thinking that three morning.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, how do you think I got here?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And I taught him this game?

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Speaker 2: Did I said, listen, I'm tired of doing this, okay,

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Speaker 2: because then you guess them. I have to watch first take.

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Speaker 2: I said, listen, I'm north of fifty. Okay, Taylor, you

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Speaker 2: start doing this. And he said what I said, guess

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Speaker 2: the topics on first take on Monday morning and then

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Speaker 1: So what do you guess is what happened.

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Speaker 6: So my guess of the topic was did this game

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Speaker 6: tell you more about the Packers or did this game

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Speaker 6: tell you more about the lines? And for me, this

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Speaker 6: game told you more about the Packers because I make

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Speaker 6: first take, I haven't watched yet. It's it's STEVRD, it's DVR,

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Speaker 6: and I like the review later what the topics were

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Speaker 1: Who I mean to me, it was a topic I watched,

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Speaker 1: it was it was a topic.

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Speaker 3: It was it just puts it just puts a marior

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Speaker 3: next to him and starts talking to himself too.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but the Lions. The Lions are breaking in two

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Speaker 6: new coordinators, a lot of a lot of turnover there

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Speaker 6: with their staff. The Packers, to Stu's point, they dominated

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Speaker 6: along both lines of scrimmage, and the Packers kind of

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Speaker 6: showed to I think everybody that they can be a

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Speaker 6: Super Bowl contender. On FanDuel Sportsbook, they are the fourth

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Speaker 6: best odds behind the Bills, the Eagles, the Ravens. The

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Speaker 6: Packers are plus eight fifty and I think a lot

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Speaker 6: of that has to do with what you saw yesterday

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Speaker 6: and Jordan Love having the ability to kind of get

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Speaker 3: I was laughing because I saw in the Detroit Free

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Speaker 3: Press that Mitch Album wrote a column on the Lions,

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Speaker 3: and I was like, I didn't know Mitch was still

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Speaker 3: writing columns.

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Speaker 1: But his headlines paper, huh.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I didn't actually read it, but the headline

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Speaker 3: judge them or not. It says season openers often don't

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Speaker 3: just basically putting his hands in prayer position and saying,

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Speaker 3: please let that game not be a bad indication or

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Speaker 3: a real indication of what we are this year, because frankly,

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Speaker 3: it just it's it's not going to end well right

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Speaker 3: when they collapse in Detroit, and Dan Campbell is just

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Speaker 3: He's just a little too enthusiastic. He needs to just

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Speaker 3: pull it back a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And if.

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Speaker 2: Winning, that man deeply cares, and when they're losing, he's

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Speaker 2: an embarrassment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not.

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Speaker 3: It's not gonna be a good look. And Jared goff

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Speaker 3: might go back to not winning a game apparently under

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Speaker 3: the right coordinator. So it's it's gonna end pretty ugly

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Speaker 3: when it does. But I just don't think we're there yet.

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Speaker 2: The next two games, by the way, for green Bay,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry for uh Detroit.

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Speaker 1: For Detroit, thank you, Izzie, thank.

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Speaker 3: You very much.

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Speaker 2: The next two games Chicago Ben Johnson revenge game, and

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Speaker 2: then they're at Baltimore. So yeah, they get some relief

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Speaker 2: with the Browns.

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Speaker 3: Window is closed.

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Speaker 2: That was the best thing that happened to the Browns

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Speaker 2: not winning that game, right, It was why it was

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Speaker 2: a good loss.

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Speaker 1: It was you were already good losses. Well no, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Giants also had a good loss.

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Speaker 2: Okay, And I'll explain why the Giants had a good

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Speaker 2: loss because the more games you win early on with

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson, the less chance and that you go to

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Speaker 2: Jackson Dart because Jackson Dart is the future.

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Speaker 1: So meaning, if the Giants happened to.

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Speaker 2: Get off to a two and zero start, they're gonna stick.

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Speaker 1: With Russ for a while.

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Speaker 2: But now the Giants already contemplating do we go to

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Speaker 2: Jackson Dart now? And that's the result of yesterday's game

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Speaker 2: and yesterday's outcome okay. And the same thing with Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: If you win a couple of games early, you stick

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Speaker 2: with Joe Flacco who was forty years and you never

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Speaker 2: find out if you have a good young quarterback Dylan

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Speaker 3: So you want to start every good losses. You want

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Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The great thing about the Giants is that they have

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Speaker 3: you right and if it's not good, I'll also show you.

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Speaker 6: I think anybody's going to be a bad option behind

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Speaker 2: Right, What a bad day for the Giants, What a

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Speaker 1: Him or Aaron Rodgers. I mean, that's just that is

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Speaker 2: The reason you don't go to Jamis is because your

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Speaker 2: The only way the Giants, Joe Shane and Brian day

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Speaker 3: You know, Okay, I mean, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Saying it's the right thing to do. It's the thing

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Speaker 3: But if you are if you are going to Jackson Dark,

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Speaker 2: Probably more likely, But this is this is what happens

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Speaker 1: You know, it's it's.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't matter because it's a hail Mary. Either either

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Speaker 1: We just got this guy.

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Speaker 4: So it's kind of your only option if you're Joe

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Speaker 3: I don't know, man, thirty three touchdowns, thirty interceptions, five

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't mind trying to recreate that. Maybe

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Speaker 3: it turned into thirty five touchdowns and twenty five interceptions

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Speaker 3: and that's enough to get us into the playoffs. It's

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Speaker 3: more likely, because you've seen it with Jameis Winston for

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Speaker 3: with Jackson Dart because you haven't seen anything yet, and

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Speaker 3: the intent was not even to haven't play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I like what I haven't seen, though, put it

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Speaker 1: I do?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean it's the disease probably the benefit

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Speaker 3: don't see. But I think we've seen enough from Jamis

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Speaker 1: To see it a little bit more.

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Speaker 5: Do you?

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Speaker 1: For your personal entertainment? You want to see more?

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Speaker 3: For me, I either want to see him have a

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Speaker 3: phenomenal season and see what kind of quirks come out

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Speaker 3: and be like, Okay, we know once and for all,

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Speaker 3: those thirty two touchdowns was an anomaly.

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Speaker 1: Taylor put it on the pole.

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Speaker 2: Should Daniel Jones's nickname be Indiana Jones?

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Speaker 1: That's so good?

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Speaker 2: And if it is Indiana Jones, is that the greatest

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean they can change their name for

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Speaker 3: Indiana Cults. Right, there's no other team there because Indianapolis

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Speaker 3: Jones is a terrible nickname, but Indiana Jones.

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Speaker 1: Indiana Jones is a great nickname.

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Speaker 5: Is he?

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Speaker 2: What do you do with two? We here in the Dolphins.

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Speaker 2: That was the worst loss of the weekend. Like listen,

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Speaker 1: Okay, and I went, I'm not gonna lie to you guys.

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Speaker 1: I went my car.

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Speaker 2: I turned on ESPN radio okay, and they were talking

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Speaker 2: about two of being done.

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Speaker 1: I did.

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Speaker 2: That was the conversation, Tua done, it's over. It's over

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Speaker 2: in Miami. McDaniel's out, everyone's out. Two was done, Tree

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Speaker 2: That's all I heard for fifteen minutes on a ESPN

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Speaker 1: How dare he do that to me?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 4: Two things. One, we got to get you a speaker

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Speaker 3: To listen to the radio?

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Speaker 4: And two we were supposed to we were kicking around

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Speaker 4: the idea of playing a game Am I Crazy today,

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 3: I mean I would change the name of the game then,

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Speaker 3: because it's not AMI crazy, it's that this is efan obvious?

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Speaker 3: Because it's so bleeping obvious that they need to whatever

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Speaker 3: you want to call it, hard, reset, rebuild, just tear down,

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Speaker 3: I think he's gotten a lot of things that just

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Speaker 3: Like his pocket presence is terrible. He doesn't need like

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Speaker 3: I don't know what the numbers say, but I can't

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Speaker 3: that activity's happening, happening. But after however many years he's

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Speaker 1: Is that too harsh?

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Speaker 3: I mean I think they need to move on from him.

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Speaker 3: I think they actually need like this is make or

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Speaker 3: You get till about game five before we're like, all right,

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Speaker 3: Zach Wilson, get in, we're marching for Arch.

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Speaker 2: I love your patience with the Lions, But you want

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Speaker 1: Year six that I mean so good, it's so good,

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Speaker 6: I love how your answer right now is Arch Manning.

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Speaker 6: Who are we really sure we want Arch at the

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Speaker 2: Listen, I'm glad you brought up Arch because this is

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Speaker 2: all I'll say about Arch. We gave Arch a ton

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Speaker 1: There was only one outcome.

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Speaker 2: Arch had to be great against a bad team this weekend,

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Speaker 2: and at least he was great.

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Speaker 1: No, he was great, but he has to have that game.

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Speaker 1: Anything short of that game, we'd still be mocking it.

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Speaker 3: Statistically, he was good. The first couple of drives he

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Speaker 3: But I'll get back to Taylor's thing in a second.

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Speaker 3: Early on in the game or before the game, you

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Speaker 3: teammates went to him and sort of shook him up

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Speaker 3: he's too tight, he's too nervous, And I'm like, he's

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Speaker 3: not a true freshman. Why is he all tight nervous.

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Speaker 3: I get it a lot of pressure or whatever, But

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Speaker 3: he's just not there yet. Physically, he's got all the tools. However,

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Speaker 3: if you're gonna gamble on somebody, you're gonna gamble on

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Speaker 3: of school, he had a crazy hip injury, right, But Taylor,

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Speaker 3: when the hell are you going to give up an

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Speaker 1: Like, you're never going.

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Speaker 3: To pass that up because even if you get an ELI,

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Speaker 3: to your team and getting you a Super Bowl, Like

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Speaker 3: one hundred percent. So I'll take those chances again absolutely,

447
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Speaker 3: unless somebody else just blows me out of the water.

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Speaker 3: The dude from South Carolina all of a sudden has

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Speaker 3: a Heisman year. Maybe I'll think about it, especially after

450
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Speaker 3: watching these mobile quarterbacks. But no, I'm taking my chances

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Speaker 3: with Arch.

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Speaker 6: So you've been you've been campaigning the March to Arch.

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Speaker 6: Can I interest you in cheer? From Matier?

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Speaker 3: Matier? I mean, it's the Oklahoma thing, like, don't I

455
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Speaker 3: don't know how much I trust that Baker looks good?

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Speaker 1: Eh, Jayalen Hurr.

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl?

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Speaker 1: Is it weird?

459
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Speaker 3: But I don't want him as my quarterback ever.

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Speaker 2: No, you're you're basing this on Sam Bradford and Sam

461
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Speaker 2: Brafford alone, and that's it. And maybe Jason White who

462
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Speaker 2: won the Heisman Trophy and had no business winning the

463
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Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy. I mean I thought, I know, he had

464
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Speaker 2: a good year, but no one thought he was going

465
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Speaker 2: to be a good NFL quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Nobody.

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Speaker 6: A lot of a lot of these, A lot of

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Speaker 6: these are Lincoln Riley products. But Oklahoma has the most

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Speaker 6: starting quarterbacks right now in the NFL. Spencer Ratler, Caleb.

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Speaker 3: Williams, Yeah, I No, you're right, stud, I was doing

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Speaker 3: it off on one quarterback you were.

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams is more usc right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, well, I guess he started at Oklahoma right

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Speaker 2: wherever Lincoln was.

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Speaker 4: Lincoln Riley guy.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: I think there were what six quarterbacks this weekend that

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Speaker 4: we're Lincoln Riley guys.

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Speaker 2: And if we're being honest, but he win a national

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Speaker 2: championship with one of them, how does that sound?

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Speaker 6: Well, if we're being honest, I didn't feel good when

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Speaker 6: I said Spencer Ratler either, Yeah, you shouldn't have right.

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Speaker 3: Look, I don't care what he looks like in his

484
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Speaker 3: first two games right now, even though I think it's underwhelming.

485
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Speaker 3: I mentioned the Showlder injury. I think that that's a

486
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Speaker 3: part of it. But when you watch him and you say,

487
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Speaker 3: get that guy protection and he already looks like a

488
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Speaker 3: professional quarterback back there build wise, he's there. I mean

489
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Speaker 3: the throw his decision making needs some help. Like there

490
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Speaker 3: was one route where he threw early on where he

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Speaker 3: thought he had a guy on a post, didn't. He

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Speaker 3: threw it before the receiver actually got caught up with

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Speaker 3: the dB and it didn't look like he was open

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Speaker 3: when he made the throw, and then once they got

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Speaker 3: caught up, he definitely wasn't open and it could have

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Speaker 3: been an interception. I think he gets a little happy

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Speaker 3: when he's back there with time and wants to make

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Speaker 3: that big throw, but that just tells me he's got

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Speaker 3: the arm strength to make it. And he's like, you

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Speaker 3: know what, I'm gonna take that chance every single time.

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Speaker 2: I want you guys to think about this. Okay, just

502
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Speaker 2: going back to Alabama, Jalen Hurts was on that team.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts won a national championship. Jalen Hurts had to

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Speaker 2: go to Oklahoma because it was time for Tua to

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Speaker 2: start at Alabama.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing.

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Speaker 1: And now look at where they's too hard today.

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Speaker 3: And let me just say this, that hip injury that ever,

509
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Speaker 3: that's not the reason he's not as good, right. I mean,

510
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Speaker 3: he could be more mobile, he could be a little

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Speaker 3: bit faster, but it's not changing his decision making.

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Speaker 6: Ye.

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Speaker 2: But one of those guys, the guy who had to

514
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Speaker 2: leave Alabama has been the two Super Bowls in three years,

515
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Speaker 2: is probably going back to the Super Bowl again this year.

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Speaker 1: And the other guy is he just benched. Deserve it.

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Speaker 1: Mike Francessa the Pope next. Yeah, you're playing some golf.

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Speaker 5: Today, not today, Monday golf courses and we usually closed, okay,

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Speaker 5: that is almost all of them are closed on Monday.

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Speaker 5: It's all proud of closed on Monday.

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Speaker 1: You're right.

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Speaker 3: I should know better.

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Speaker 5: Really, yeah, you should. But that's okay.

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Speaker 1: I love that you're you're calling it Mike. Are you

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Speaker 1: on a car phone?

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Speaker 5: I'm on my cell phone Okay, through the car.

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Speaker 1: Okay, through the car. So it's a car phone. It's

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Speaker 1: Mike on a car phone.

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Speaker 5: Well I'm not really on a car phone, but I'm

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Speaker 5: on my cell phone.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: The Mike Francesa podcast, check it out. It's doing very

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Speaker 1: very well.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: New episode is right now breaking.

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Speaker 2: Down the Uh, the Jets and the Giants both teams

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Speaker 2: dreadful losses, not surprising.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: He is with us right now.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: When you guys want to ask Mike a question, is

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Speaker 2: he mikey A. Taylor, announce yourself and announce where you're

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Speaker 2: calling it from.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's that's what I would like you to do, Mike.

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Speaker 2: How should Jet fans feel today?

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Speaker 5: Uh? I would say optimistic, but cautious. There are no

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Speaker 5: moral victories, especially at home. They easily could have won

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Speaker 5: that game. They probably should have won that game yesterday.

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Speaker 5: It was a very very strange game because you never

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Speaker 5: expect the Steelers in that kind of game. Maybe that's

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Speaker 5: the new look Steelers this year. They're not going to

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Speaker 5: be able to play defense, and they're going to rely

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Speaker 5: on Aaron Rodgers to throw a bunch of touchdown passes.

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Speaker 5: Not usually Steeler football. But I would say you saw

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Speaker 5: some positive things. Aaron's going to play this tough guy,

557
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Speaker 5: old school deal. You know, if you make mistakes out

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Speaker 5: playing for me, Well what if it's a good player.

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Speaker 5: If he makes mistakes, he is playing for you. Okay,

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Speaker 5: Now if he's a bad player and he makes mistakes,

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Speaker 5: you get a new player. But they had good players

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Speaker 5: making mistakes. They obviously have some serious holes in certain areas,

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Speaker 5: especially the corner opposite their star, but they did some

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Speaker 5: good things. They ran it well. I thought Field's actually

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Speaker 5: played well better than I expected him to play. I

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Speaker 5: liked his awareness. He never seemed lost out there yesterday.

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Speaker 5: He seemed like he was in control of the offense,

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Speaker 5: which is more positive. He's not a great pass that

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Speaker 5: we know that, but and he is a good athlete,

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Speaker 5: but he seems very much in control of the offense.

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Speaker 5: I thought that was a positive. I thought hole was

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Speaker 5: a positive because he's kind of been in the doghouse

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Speaker 5: for a while. So I saw some good things I did.

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Speaker 5: I don't think the Steelers are great. I think the

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Speaker 5: Steelers are a middle wrong team. So with Aaron and

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Speaker 5: if Aaron's going to throw the ball well and he

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Speaker 5: did yesterday, they'll be a playoff team because the Steelers.

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Speaker 5: But they're had a great team, and the Jets have talent,

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Speaker 5: there's no question. So I think they can win some games.

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Speaker 5: And now they're not going to the division, but they

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Speaker 5: can win some games. I mean they could play five

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Speaker 5: hundred football.

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Speaker 3: Mike at Tizzy calling from my desktop in my home office.

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Speaker 3: I'm curious about what the.

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Speaker 5: With you?

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Speaker 1: Yes, this is fantastic.

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Speaker 3: Yes, the book is closed on Aaron Rodgers and the Jets.

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Speaker 3: What was those two years?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 3: What could they get anything positive out of it?

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Speaker 5: Like?

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Speaker 1: What were No, it was.

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Speaker 5: Another disaster, but it was an und disaster. But you know,

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Speaker 5: they didn't understand what they had number one. And Aaron

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Speaker 5: Rodgers knew, and I give him credit for keeping his

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Speaker 5: mouth shut because they brought in some guys from quality

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Speaker 5: outfits who understood they were basically in the worst coaching

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Speaker 5: situation in the history of mankind. Okay, they were being

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Speaker 5: coached by fools, they were being coached by total incompetence

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Speaker 5: and they stayed quiet. You had a virtuoso quarterback who

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Speaker 5: was being coached by a bunch of morons. I mean,

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Speaker 5: that was basically what you had. And he didn't He

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Speaker 5: didn't say it a lot. So I give him credit

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Speaker 5: for that because yesterday you saw he won the game

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Speaker 5: yesterday that he lost seven times last year with the Jets,

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Speaker 5: because the Jets found the way to lose those games

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Speaker 5: every single time last year. The Jets could have won

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Speaker 5: eleven games. Last year, they gave away six games in

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Speaker 5: the fourth quarter because they didn't understand what they were doing. Uh.

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Speaker 5: And their offensive line was a disaster.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 5: And that's why the people say, well, you know, I

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Speaker 5: look to see Rogers throwing the ball down the field,

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Speaker 5: and Rogers had time to throw the ball down the

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Speaker 5: field yesterday. He had time to throw the ball down

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Speaker 5: the field with the Jets. That was the problem. And

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Speaker 5: you saw a different player yesterday, one who could make

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Speaker 5: positive plays. So it was just a bad situation. Glenn

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Speaker 5: is cut from a different cloth. He's been around really

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Speaker 5: good coaches. He's been around parcels, and he's been around

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Speaker 5: guys who know what they're doing, and he's learned how

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Speaker 5: to run a team and they'll be run like a

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Speaker 5: football team, which is something that was not in the past.

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Speaker 5: Last year's team was the worst coach team I can

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Speaker 5: ever remember seeing. It was even worse. It was more

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Speaker 5: badly coached than the coach Tye team, which is hard

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Speaker 5: to even imagine.

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Speaker 1: That seems impossible.

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Speaker 5: I mean, no, that was That's how bad it was

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Speaker 5: last year.

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Speaker 3: Like, are you telling me that the two years with

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Speaker 3: the Jets is going to make Aaron Rodgers likable again,

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Speaker 3: because I'm hoping not.

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Speaker 5: No, I don't think Aaron can ever be I think

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Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers. I don't know Aaron Rodgers, so I'm saying

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Speaker 5: this from a distance. I think Aaron Rodgers is too

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Speaker 5: preoccupied with himself and too uh interested in and probably

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Speaker 5: too bright to be to be likable. To be honest

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Speaker 5: with you, I.

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Speaker 3: Debate that, but go ahead, Mikey.

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Speaker 5: I think Aaron Rodgers. I think Aaron Rodgers is a

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Speaker 5: pretty small guy. I really do. I just don't think.

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Speaker 5: I think. I think. I think he's he's a very

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Speaker 5: weird guy. I think he's a very strange guy, and

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Speaker 5: I think that's what rubs off. So I don't think

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Speaker 5: he's ever going to be likable. But understand this one

647
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Speaker 5: of the greatest quarterbacks who have ever played in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: There's no question about that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike, that's not a shot at Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 2: Already cut you off there, Mikey, that's not He's just

651
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Speaker 2: saying that he's not relatable, and that's fair.

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Speaker 1: He's not relatable to me. You or that a person

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Speaker 1: who watches football.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, he's got everything in life and he's

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Speaker 5: and he makes a fortune, so he's not relatable. I

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Speaker 5: buy that.

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Speaker 4: Yees yeah, Mike, Mikey on a zoom in Connecticut, first time,

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Speaker 4: long time.

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Speaker 3: What is the identity of this team?

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Speaker 4: I mean, they've got a defensive coach who's given up

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Speaker 4: seventy points in his last two games. They got a

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Speaker 4: quarterback who is oher to twenty three when his defense

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Speaker 4: gives up twenty one. And yet now they're scoring thirty

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Speaker 4: two points in a game at home against what's supposed

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Speaker 4: to be one of the best, you know, defenses in

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Speaker 4: the game.

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Speaker 3: Careful, Mike, you sound upset.

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Speaker 5: Well, try and listen and let me say, this is

669
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 5: the first town hall I've ever done. Okay, so I've

670
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 5: done a lot of different kinds of shows. But this

671
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 5: is really my first sports town hall. Let me say this,

672
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 5: the Steeler defense was very, very beat up yesterday and

673
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 5: and was not on the same page. As a matter

674
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 5: of fact, you saw them on the sideline actually having conferences,

675
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 5: which you never see out of the Steelers, because they

676
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 5: were basically saying, well, maybe we can all start to

677
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 5: play the same defense. At some point in this game.

678
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 5: They did not understand where they were. There'll be a

679
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 5: very different defense in four or five weeks than they

680
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,959
Speaker 5: were yesterday. So yesterday they were awful. They were a

681
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 5: pitiful defense. There's no question about that one the Jets

682
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 5: could have taken advantage of except they made too many

683
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 5: mistakes and they got you know, they got beat apart,

684
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 5: you know, ripped apart in the air and lost the game. Hey,

685
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 5: if you told me going in Jets are gonna spore

686
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 5: thirty points, I wouldn't have thought they were lost. Obviously,

687
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 5: no one would. No one had that game, you know,

688
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 5: above twenty points probably or twenty three points for the

689
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 5: game anywhere. It was an odd Steeler Jet game. But

690
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 5: you saw some promising things from the Jets. He showed

691
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 5: some improvement in some areas, and like I said, I

692
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 5: don't think they beat a great Steeler team. Remember, the

693
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 5: Steelers brought a lot of new faces into this team,

694
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 5: most of it veteran guys. Those guys don't play in

695
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 5: the preseason. Those guys are trying to work themselves into

696
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 5: shape by the middle of September. They're not there yet

697
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 5: that none of them are there yet. They'll be there,

698
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 5: They'll get better. They were bad yesterday on Defense.

699
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 6: Hey Mike Taylor from Rockland County love the show.

700
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 5: How are you doing good? Taylor? What's going on? Do

701
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 5: you think all these guys worked for this one show

702
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 5: or or these it all worked for the same show.

703
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 5: Is that happening.

704
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're all working. They're all working with him. For me, Mike,

705
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: it's listen. I'm not I'm not you. I'm not Chris Russo. Okay,

706
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: I need help, okay for an ensemble here?

707
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 5: Really, you see, I never liked help. That was that

708
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 5: was the thing, you see. I wanted to be out there.

709
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 5: I see, I was out there, and to me, there

710
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 5: was only there was only one microphone on one spotlight.

711
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 5: That's all I knew that. That's will. I just wanted

712
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 5: to go to work. That was it. I wasn't looking

713
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 5: for help. That's how that's see, That's why I had time.

714
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 5: How Dog and I operated either one of us wanted help,

715
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 5: that was how we operated it for twenty.

716
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 3: Years, fighting over the one.

717
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: Mike, you both wanted the damn microphone.

718
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 5: You're right, Oh, absolutely, And we both thought we were

719
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 5: better alone. That's very true. People asked me why the

720
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 5: show was so successful because you had two guys thought

721
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 5: they were better alone.

722
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 2: Right arm, with hindsight, you realized that you were better together.

723
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: Or no, you still think you guys were better alone.

724
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 5: We were better together.

725
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Wow, that was hard for you to say, Mike,

726
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 2: it seems that was quite an admission.

727
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 5: No, hey, listen, we were both very good. Yes, alone,

728
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 5: we were both at the top of the business alone,

729
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 5: but together, no one's ever touched us.

730
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: No, it was magic, Mike, it was I grew up

731
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: listening to you guys magical to listen.

732
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 5: Yes, it was magic. There's never been anything like it.

733
00:32:58,440 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 5: There's never been anything like it.

734
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 6: Do you think this Yankee team can win the World Series?

735
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: Oh Jesus, no, absolutely not.

736
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 5: And you know why you want you know why? Number one,

737
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 5: I don't trust the bullpen any part of it okay,

738
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 5: new guys, old guys, anyone you want it. Don't trust

739
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 5: any part of it. And number two, the Yankees are

740
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 5: a team made up of dhs and now that judges

741
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 5: of DH or you're gonna put them out there and

742
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 5: he's gonna throw the both thirty feet to the second

743
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 5: basement to get to stand in the lineup. The Yankees

744
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 5: are a team of dhs and home run hitting dhs,

745
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 5: and when you have to put them on the field together,

746
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 5: it is a calamity and it will continue to be

747
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 5: a calamity. They will not win the World Series.

748
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: How about the Mets.

749
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 5: More dangerous than the Yankees. But I don't think the

750
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 5: young pitching. I don't think the young pitching will hold

751
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 5: up when the Mets are on their game. Their lineup

752
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 5: is incredibly deep. When you got guys at the bottom

753
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 5: of the lineup like Alvarez and Biento's, if he's batting

754
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 5: in the bottom or batting in the middle, and you

755
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,800
Speaker 5: have Beaty and guys like that, their lineup is loaded,

756
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 5: absolutely loaded. The problem is, I don't trust any part

757
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 5: of their starting pitching. And you're asking a lot of

758
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 5: these kids to continue this third fourth time around, where

759
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 5: people start to get a book on them, where people

760
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 5: start to see them and ask them to continue to

761
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 5: perform at this level. That is a lot to ask.

762
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 5: Their starting pitching is extremely suspect, Mike.

763
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 3: It's a good share unless they kill magic.

764
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 5: Unless these kids are absolutely magic. You know, if these

765
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 5: kids are going to be great, well, then they can

766
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 5: do something very very special. And I and again I

767
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 5: don't trust their bullpen. Uh. And that includes Diaz, who

768
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 5: can get himself into a lot of trouble. Plus Uh,

769
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 5: if you don't take every base when Diaz is pitching,

770
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 5: you should be ashamed of yourself. He will never hold

771
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 5: the man on ever. Okay, he considers it actually beneath him,

772
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 5: the holy guy on base, he won't. He thinks you

773
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 5: can get the third, but you can't get home because

774
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 5: I'm going to strike out. That's basically his mentality.

775
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 3: What a dummy, you guys here.

776
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: This is where this is where I learned from.

777
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: This is why I say you should be ashamed of

778
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 2: yourself all the time, because I learned from the Pope.

779
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: I learned from the greatest to ever do this. I mean,

780
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: that's it, Mike.

781
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 3: Did it bug you that Aaron Boone was at that

782
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 3: North Carolina game with the Bill Belichick.

783
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 5: Dam not in the least. Anybody who had a problem

784
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 5: with that is a complete moron. Okay, I mean, wait

785
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 5: a second. On a day off, what do you think

786
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 5: Aaron was going to do? Run basically an infield drill

787
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 5: in Houston on the day off? I mean what I mean?

788
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 5: He thought he went to see his kid? Okay, at

789
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 5: the school. What was Aaron gonna do instead of Aaron

790
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 5: being out at a restaurant having a nice dinner on

791
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 5: an off day. Okay, he was at North Carolina watching

792
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 5: Bill Belichick get the I've kicked out of him. But

793
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 5: why is that? Why is that a problem? Why is

794
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 5: that a problem?

795
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: I mean the kid's not playing though.

796
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 5: Yeah wait a second, wait, hey, do any of you

797
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 5: have college kids?

798
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: Yes? I do?

799
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 5: Okay, you don't go visit them in college?

800
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 1: No, I do all the time. I do. But I'm

801
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: not coaching, you.

802
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 5: Know. But yeah, but your all fun Monday? What was

803
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 5: he going to do was a day off? It's a

804
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 5: private jet. It takes three hours to get to Houston,

805
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 5: four hours to get the Houston and you know what,

806
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 5: he would have been sleeping in the hotel if he

807
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 5: wasn't in the air or who cares? That is the

808
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 5: dumbest thing. What do you think he was going to

809
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 5: do on his off day? What was he going to

810
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 5: sit in this room? He was going to sit in

811
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 5: his room and figure out how to make Rice a

812
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 5: good defensive player. It wasn't going to happen.

813
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 3: I didn't have him at the Belichick debut, But you're right,

814
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 3: You're right. He's got a day off.

815
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 5: I don't care if he was there. The thing I

816
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 5: want to know is this, At what point in the

817
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 5: game on the game clock did the five of Jets

818
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 5: start flying out of Chapel Hill. That's what I want

819
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 5: to know. I wanted to see the visual of them,

820
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 5: one after another flying out of Chapel Hill in the

821
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 5: third quarter of that game.

822
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: Did yes leaving the third quarter?

823
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 5: Hey, I guarantee you you didn't notice them in the

824
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 5: fourth pint? Did? They were all gone? That's why you

825
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 5: didn't notice.

826
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: You're right, Mike.

827
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 2: Did you think North Carolina was going to win a

828
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 2: national championship at seven?

829
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:28,439
Speaker 1: Nothing?

830
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 5: I thought they. I could not believe everybody on that

831
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 5: that night kicked Belichick to win except the Rocket. Everyone

832
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 5: else picked Belichick to win the game. And I'm saying,

833
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 5: you guys gotta be kidding. Did you think you went

834
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 5: out and got as many players as TCU has in

835
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 5: one year? He didn't do that. You know what he

836
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 5: did that night, He raised another twenty million in the

837
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 5: nil account. That's what he did that night. That was

838
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 5: what he did. Okay, That's the only thing he did

839
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 5: that night, because he went back and he said, I

840
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 5: need players, I need players. That's what he did. Mike.

841
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 3: What's it like when you're in New York and the

842
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 3: Jets are going through one of their typical you know,

843
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 3: down cycles, and yet the Giants are more incapable.

844
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 5: Well, you know that hasn't listened. You know, there there

845
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 5: was a time when the Giants were terrific. You got

846
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 5: to remember that. Okay. Now, the Giants have gone through

847
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 5: some very bad times. If you go back to the

848
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 5: early sixties, starting in sixty four and then going through

849
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 5: that stage, they were terrible, okay, and did everything ineptley

850
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 5: and fought internally. And they have gone through after Cofflin,

851
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 5: a terrible phase and they're not out of it yet.

852
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 5: And then I watched yesterday as they again play and

853
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 5: people actually were excited by the and optimistic by the preseason,

854
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 5: which I didn't understand because what were they looking at

855
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 5: they thought was going to carry over to it real

856
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 5: I had no idea. Okay, now the game starts and

857
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 5: I figured they'd lose that game thirty eight to twenty.

858
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 5: Maybe he'd throw a couple of touchdown passes deep the

859
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 5: neighbors or something, and they give up thirty eight points

860
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 5: to a good Washington offensive. Washington played about as badly

861
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 5: as they could possibly play yesterday, kept the Giants hanging around.

862
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 5: Otherwise that game would have been forty to six. The

863
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 5: Giant offensive line without Thomas is so bad. And then

864
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 5: people after the game all want Dart to play, right, Oh,

865
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 5: questions it's start playing next week's start playing. Why would

866
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 5: you want Dart to play? If dark Goos did with

867
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 5: that offensive line, he is going to all they can

868
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 5: all of a sudden say, oh, he's a bust. He

869
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 5: could what a terrible draft pick because he's going to

870
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 5: get killed if he tries to play behind that offensive line.

871
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 5: That offensive line is so bad nobody can play behind it.

872
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 5: And that has got to improve. And they cannot get

873
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 5: that offensive line fixed because number one, they can't get

874
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 5: Ti healthy and Secondly, he just cannot kick the right

875
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 5: guys and put him in place on that offensive line.

876
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 5: And until they get that offensive linetick, nothing is going

877
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 5: to improve for the Giants.

878
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 2: So, Mike, I agree with everything you just said, but

879
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 2: you know this, there is a coach whose job is

880
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 2: in jeopardy and he wants to show the organization that

881
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 2: he has something. And that's something is Jackson Darton. Therefore,

882
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 2: I believe he'll be thrown in there before he probably should.

883
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: Is that fair?

884
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 5: It's not. Listen, he gets two bites at the Apple

885
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 5: this year because he gets the beginning against a brutal schedule. Yep,

886
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 5: all right, And I thought it was the hardest schedule

887
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 5: that I have seen in a long time for anybody.

888
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 5: And really I looked at it and said, where are

889
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 5: the Giants other than the New Orleans game? Gonna win a game?

890
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 5: All right? And if they open only two, all they

891
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 5: have next to is Kansas City, which could come into

892
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 5: their building. Oh and two if they lose the Eagles, right,

893
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 5: all right, and then they have the Charges and then

894
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 5: they play the okay, but then they play Philly and

895
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 5: Denver and Philly, I mean, give me a break. And

896
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 5: then they though, oh oh, what's next up for that

897
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 5: San Francisco. I mean, the schedule is a disaster, okay,

898
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 5: And when they put him in, if he crashes and burns,

899
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 5: then the coach won't even finish the season. So the

900
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 5: bottom line is he he cannot unleas start until he

901
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 5: realizes that he can make Dot look like the future.

902
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 5: If he can do that, he can save his job.

903
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 5: Because if Dart shines or at least is okay, or

904
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 5: even gives you a glimmer of hope for the future,

905
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 5: they are going to say, We're not going to change

906
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 5: the voice in his ear, We're not going to change

907
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 5: the offensive coordinator. We're not going to bring in a

908
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 5: new game plan, We're not going to bring in a

909
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 5: new offense. And wait three more years, we're going to

910
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 5: keep this coach who somehow worked in Buffalo. So the

911
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 5: bottom line is, if he can put Dot in at

912
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 5: the right time, he will save his job. That's why

913
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 5: he has to wait to pull the trigger. They have

914
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 5: to get the offensive line somehow better or at least

915
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 5: acceptable before they put Dart in, or Dart will get

916
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 5: destroyed and they will be out the door.

917
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 3: Mike, I know he had his moments with the Giants.

918
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 3: But what was it like watching Daniel Jones look like

919
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 3: an MVP yesterday.

920
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 5: Well, what it did was it was another indictment of

921
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 5: this regime of the Giants. I mean, the Giants blamed

922
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 5: everything on Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones went out yesterday and

923
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 5: he said, Oh, this is what a titan actually looks like. Wow,

924
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 5: he is a titan who actually gets off the line

925
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 5: of scrimmage, can run around and catches the ball and

926
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 5: then runs with the ball after he catches it. But

927
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 5: you kidding me? Wow, I never had one of these before.

928
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:52,720
Speaker 5: I never even seen one of these before. Okay, Tyler

929
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 5: Warren caught three balls in the first two series, and

930
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 5: Jones said, it's Christmas Day. I got tailor in the

931
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 5: backfield and it's ty and this horse a wide was

932
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 5: at tight end, and I got a couple of guys

933
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 5: who can block for me. This is Christmas And what

934
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 5: do we put up? Thirty points in three quarters?

935
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 3: I don't think that dude had to leave the pocket

936
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 3: one time yesterday.

937
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: I know clean, Yeah, Hey, he.

938
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 5: Ran because he's like, I want to run a little bit.

939
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 5: It's my nature. I have to run a little bit.

940
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 5: So he ran for twenty six yards. He didn't have

941
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 5: to run once yesterday, didn't want to. He could have

942
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 5: just handed the ball to tailor. He didn't have to

943
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 5: run at all.

944
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 2: Mike, just going back to Belichick for a second. We'll

945
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 2: get you out of here. The Mike Francesa podcast.

946
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: Check it out.

947
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 2: He is fantastic and we appreciate his time. Do you

948
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 2: think Belichick is done with the NFL?

949
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 5: Like I think Craft has tried to make sure that

950
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 5: the NFL is done with Belichick.

951
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

952
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 5: Wow, I think it's really very ugly, very ugly. If

953
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 5: you notice he just blocks people from coming to North

954
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 5: Carolina because he said he was shut out of there.

955
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 5: And you got to remember, it's not Craft, it's Craft's borrow.

956
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 5: Jonathan Craft is a pain in the neck too. Okay,

957
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 5: Not only is he an owner's son, which you know

958
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 5: how owners sons are. Okay, Number one, all right, Number two,

959
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 5: Jonathan Craft has always annoyed the coaches there. Don't think

960
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 5: he hasn't, Okay, I know that's a fact. And Belichick,

961
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,959
Speaker 5: when he talked about being in college, said I don't

962
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 5: have to deal with the owner or the owner's son.

963
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 5: Was his quote. If you remember okay, there's no love loss.

964
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 5: And the Pats did a good job of poisoning the

965
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 5: water wherever he was thinking of going. I don't know

966
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 5: that there isn't an owner though that will be so

967
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 5: desperate to believe that Belichick can walk in and wave

968
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 5: a magic wand. And if he is, he's dumb, because

969
00:44:55,120 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 5: look at two things. Number One, without Tom Brady, Belichick's

970
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 5: lifetime winning percentage in the NFL is four forty nine.

971
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 5: And remember this, no coach in the history of the

972
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 5: NFL has ever won a Super Bowl and gone through

973
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 5: another team and won a Super Bowl. And that includes

974
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 5: a lot of great coaches. Hit them up, including Bill Parcells,

975
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 5: including Jimmy Johnson. Go down the line, the guy who

976
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 5: came closest to doing it is who come on, let

977
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 5: me see some smarts here. Who's the guy who came

978
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 5: closest to doing it? And in the history of the league,

979
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 5: And Mike Hongram, Mike Ingram, Mike Holgram won a Super

980
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 5: Bowl in Green. But you got to first have one

981
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 5: of Super Bowl guys. So you guys showed me you

982
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 5: didn't listen to the question.

983
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: No, no, no, you're right, that's on us. Mike. We

984
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: didn't think, okay, and we didn't think.

985
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 3: We didn't think the other way around.

986
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: He made us nervous.

987
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 4: Mike.

988
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: We didn't want to disappoint you, and we did. And

989
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: now I feel terrible.

990
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 5: It's Mike Home, it's Mike Holingram because he got screwed

991
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 5: out of the on. The only time an official ever

992
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 5: cost the team a Super Bowl was in the Seattle

993
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 5: Pittsburgh game. And Seattle should have won that game, and

994
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 5: that would have given Home Groom a super Bowl in

995
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 5: two places. And no one's ever done it in the

996
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,240
Speaker 5: history of the league. And think about it. Think about

997
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 5: all the guys who have gotten so much money to

998
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 5: go somewhere, and none of them have ever gone. Now

999
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 5: they've gone to the Super Bowl. Parcels went to the

1000
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 5: Super Bowl in New England. Okay, after winning two with

1001
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 5: the Giants. Guys have gone. Guys have lost super Bowls

1002
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 5: and gone to places in won Super bowl Sula did that,

1003
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 5: Emil did that. But no one's ever won a Super

1004
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 5: Bowl and gone anywhere else in one another one for

1005
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 5: another team. It's never happened, which is remarkable when you

1006
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 5: think about how many guys who have won Super Bowls

1007
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 5: have gotten huge money to go somewhere else and try

1008
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 5: and win a Super Bowl, but still nobody has ever

1009
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 5: done it.

1010
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, said I just really, you're right.

1011
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 2: I regret saying Andy read it, you know, in fact,

1012
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 2: on the way out, just tell us we should all

1013
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 2: be ashamed of ourselves because we should.

1014
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 5: No. No, let me say this though. Let me say this.

1015
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 5: How smart were the Kansas City Chiefs hearing the Kansasity

1016
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 5: Chiefs who couldn't win a playoff game for forty years,

1017
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 5: and they were smart enough when he left the Eagles

1018
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 5: and the Eagles I understand they needed to make a

1019
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 5: change because they just thought it was time. They knew

1020
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 5: Andy was really good. Kansas City knew that there was

1021
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,439
Speaker 5: now an all time great coach on the market, and

1022
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 5: they didn't wait one hour to contact him. And look

1023
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 5: what it's brought them. Yeah, yeah, right, you know, look

1024
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 5: what it brought them. I mean, they were so smart

1025
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 5: they jumped right away. I don't think Andy was out

1026
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 5: of work an hour before Kansas City Court and said

1027
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 5: just please come here and you'll never leave. And look

1028
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 5: what he's done there. Yeah, I mean, he's become one

1029
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 5: of the great coaches of all time, and he is

1030
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 5: one of the great coaches of all time.

1031
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: He really is no question.

1032
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 2: We were talking about owners earlier, and since you brought

1033
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 2: up owners, if the Packers win a Super Bowl this year, Mike,

1034
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 2: do you think they should put a statue of Jerry

1035
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 2: Jones in front of lambeau Field.

1036
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 5: You know, you know Jerry, it's funny. Jerry would rat.

1037
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 5: Jerry won a lot, obviously with Jimmy winning three Super

1038
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 5: Bowls in four years, having the last dynasty, the whole thing,

1039
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 5: and that spoiled him because what he realized was what

1040
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 5: I want more than even that is I want to win,

1041
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 5: and I want all the credit, right. I want to

1042
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 5: prove that it was all me. And he has spent

1043
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 5: the last thirty years proving that he can't do that, Mike,

1044
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 5: and he continues to prove that all the time. I mean,

1045
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 5: he continues to prove that he can't.

1046
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 3: Do that, Mike. When you gave a genuine laugh, you

1047
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 3: should see how Taylor from the Bronx looked because it

1048
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 3: was his question that he came up with, and when

1049
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,479
Speaker 3: he heard your laugh, he started dancing in his chair.

1050
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 6: Made my ear.

1051
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 1: He's also the guy who said, Andy Reid, I mean whatever, Hey,

1052
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: I have.

1053
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 5: A dog named Taylor. You realize that. Now who do

1054
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 5: you think my dog is named after? I'll give you

1055
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 5: three things.

1056
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:11,760
Speaker 3: Did he also go to North Carolina?

1057
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: Taylor? Don't try to get this right right?

1058
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 5: Who wants to answer the question? It's multiple choice? Who

1059
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 5: wants to answer it?

1060
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to answer it. I want to answer it.

1061
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 5: Okay, here you go. My dog is named after one

1062
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 5: of the three. One of the three? Ready, Lawrence Taylor?

1063
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1064
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 5: Games Taylor or Taylor Swift.

1065
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: How is that?

1066
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: So they teach you a multiple choice to eliminate one,

1067
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:37,959
Speaker 2: So Taylor Swift is out.

1068
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna go Laura and Taylor wim you know?

1069
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 5: Okay? My dog is a five year old mini golden

1070
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 5: doodle that we got during when we were all housebounds, Okay,

1071
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:56,359
Speaker 5: for my daughter Emily, who is now a junior at Villanova.

1072
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 5: And it is a little little a female five year

1073
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 5: old mini goldendoodle who runs our house. And he is

1074
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 5: named after Taylor Swift.

1075
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 3: Upset that, I mean, you guys are chiefs fans in the house.

1076
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 5: I have in the house to I have two chief fans,

1077
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 5: Emily because of Taylor Swift and Harrison, who has been

1078
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 5: a chief fan I have to admit before the days

1079
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 5: of mahomes and is a is a future broadcaster whoelready works.

1080
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 5: He's been at barstool for three years. He is a

1081
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 5: sophomore at Fairfield. He works with Frank the Tank The

1082
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 5: Last is behind Us. He does Frank the Tank's videos

1083
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 5: for him behind the scenes. He's a sophomore at Fairfield

1084
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 5: and he has been a Chiefs fan for about I

1085
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 5: say about twelve years, and he has seen them win

1086
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 5: way too much, way too much.

1087
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 2: Taylor has a dog named Oakley. You want to guess

1088
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 2: who he named his dog after.

1089
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 5: After Annie Oakley? Correct, Charles Oakley.

1090
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 1: Yes, you got it. Mike.

1091
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 2: It's pretty cool seeing so one of your kids is

1092
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 2: in the industry and one of Dog's kids, I believe

1093
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 2: is also in the industry.

1094
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: That's very very cool, right.

1095
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 5: Colin Colin Russo has a show. He's a little older

1096
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 5: than Harrison. Harrison just turned eighteen. Collins about twenty three.

1097
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 5: I guess he's had an he's out of Wisconsin now.

1098
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Speaker 5: He has he's part of a show in Palm Beach.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, ye all.

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Speaker 5: Since I know them all, yes, yes, yeah, and you

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Speaker 5: can understand them more than you can understand his father.

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Speaker 1: That is very good, Mike. We appreciate this.

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Speaker 2: I would like you to come around here more if

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Speaker 2: you were willing to do so, because we had a blend.

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Speaker 5: This is one. This is like, this is like a

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Speaker 5: solar eclipse. Guys, it does happen.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, we'll talk to you next week then.

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Speaker 5: Only kidding. Yeah, no, no, be on Wednesday. As a

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Speaker 5: matter of fact, if.

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Speaker 1: Mike, if you want to come on Wednesday, we'll have

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Speaker 1: you on Wednesday. I know I'm not going. I'm getting

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Speaker 1: carried away. We'll do this once in a while, okay,

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Speaker 1: but we do appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: This has been a plas Yeah, pleasure all right, The

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Speaker 5: Mike francessa podcast.

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Speaker 2: Check it out wherever you get your podcast. Taylor is

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Speaker 2: glowing right now.

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Speaker 3: It was like a solar eclipse. Is that why we

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Speaker 3: couldn't look at them