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Speaker 1: The Nicky Glaiser Podcastserus.

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Speaker 2: Here's Nicky Here. I am hello with Nicky Glazer. Welcome

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Speaker 2: to Nicky Lazer Podcast. There's a very special episode of

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Speaker 2: the podcast, as you already know because you clicked on it.

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Speaker 2: But this is for Swift these uh only not only,

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Speaker 2: but I just feel like you just need to know

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Speaker 2: what you're in for. Like this is going to be

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Speaker 2: a love fest, a gush fest, it's gonna be a dorkathon.

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Speaker 2: We're like gonna go hard and just lean into being

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Speaker 2: totally obsessed with this thing that brings us so much joy.

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Speaker 2: So I'm joined today on this special Swift episode to

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Speaker 2: go over the Tortured Poets apartment. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: this is something I'm doing because I've been asked by

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Speaker 2: so many people to do it, and also I just

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Speaker 2: love talking about her so much. It's the It's like

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Speaker 2: Anya witnesses it on the road a lot with me,

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Speaker 2: because I'll be really depressed and then someone I'll meet

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Speaker 2: someone that kind of has some knowledge about Taylor Swift,

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Speaker 2: and I will light up like a fucking mirror ball. Bitches,

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Speaker 2: I just become like shinier and just happier about the

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Speaker 2: world and she's always kind of like mystified at this.

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Speaker 2: What does Taylor call it? We'll get into it. The

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Speaker 2: drug that you take, the fortnite drug that just snaps

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Speaker 2: you out of things, And she's that for us, and

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Speaker 2: today us is me and the one person in my

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Speaker 2: life who's And I said this on my Stories. I

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Speaker 2: just posted whose love for Taylor Swift rivals my own?

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Speaker 2: And I invite it like I'm not someone who's like

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Speaker 2: I'm the best Swifty because I'm definitely not. But she

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Speaker 2: is so knowledgeable. She loves her in the same way

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Speaker 2: I do, but also in a different way. You'll see that,

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Speaker 2: like our favorites from the new album are kind of summer,

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Speaker 2: are completely opposed to one another, and I find that

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Speaker 2: so fascinating. I got so much data this weekend from

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Speaker 2: you guys sending me your top three and five favorite songs.

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Speaker 2: I said three just in case you didn't have time

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Speaker 2: to listen to five and fall in love with five,

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Speaker 2: because I know how it is, but you all said five.

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Speaker 2: No one said three because everyone already had favorites and

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Speaker 2: it's so fun. So anyway, who I am talking about

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Speaker 2: is such a hilarious comedian. She is from Canada. I

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Speaker 2: met her from you can just come on and start

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Speaker 2: talking before I Who did we meet through.

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Speaker 1: Dave Ross, The wonderful Dave Ross.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, yes, the best. And you know there's

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Speaker 2: certain people in your life if they just like recommend

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Speaker 2: someone or they say this person's a good person, they

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Speaker 2: vouch for someone, You're just like I trust them, like

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Speaker 2: I'll love this person. So he wrote me about you

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Speaker 2: and then you open for me where in Toronto?

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Speaker 1: And it was yes, incredible.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, that was Oh my god. Okay, nor

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Speaker 2: Haddi is who we're with. Nor Hadidi. You gotta follow

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Speaker 2: her on Instagram all the things, especially if you're swifty.

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Speaker 2: She is one of us. She's such a diehard. Her

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Speaker 2: and I are the most diehard swifty comedians, without question,

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Speaker 2: without Chestry. Her name is n O. You are h

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Speaker 2: A d I d I nor Hadidi? So nor you

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Speaker 2: actually just defended Taylor Swift in like a debate, right, yes,

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Speaker 2: So it's like a special debate thing that shows a

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Speaker 2: big deal in Canada because I've don't know it before. It

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Speaker 2: was a lot of pressure in the audience. It's kind

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Speaker 2: of like a weight Wait, don't tell me for Canada.

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Speaker 2: For those Americans listening.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yes, I can't believe you did it now I'm jealous.

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Speaker 1: I didn't debate you because I think that would be

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Speaker 1: so much fun.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. I would be intimidated to debate you.

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Speaker 2: I would like, because I love you so much. I like,

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Speaker 2: would want you to win.

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Speaker 1: You're so sweet.

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Speaker 2: You're like not that it's not that it's like nor

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Speaker 2: you'd need me to throw it, so, but I would like,

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Speaker 2: I just wouldn't be I like going against people that

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Speaker 2: I'm like, you fucking idiot, you know.

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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, like people who you want to take down.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're just like you because you argued what was

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Speaker 2: the debate about what was the top.

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Speaker 1: Taylor Swift has the greatest fans in the world, and

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Speaker 1: I said yes, and so I debated yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I'm actually struggle with because I don't know every

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Speaker 2: fan base. It's hard to say the best, right.

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Speaker 1: But here's this is what I said on the debate.

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Speaker 1: I was like, compared it to other fan bases, and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, I live in Canada and hockey is

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Speaker 2: We can't find Matt Healy's car, otherwise we would. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if he drives. Yeah, you're right, they do.

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Speaker 2: People get really worked up about sports in a way

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Speaker 2: that I find very similar. As I've talked about on

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Speaker 2: the podcast, that football and Taylor Swift are very similar

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Speaker 2: men's obsession and how we kind of roll our eyes

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Speaker 2: at that is the kind of way they roll our

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Speaker 2: eyes at this emotional thing that is very They're diametrically opposed,

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Speaker 2: like is one is obviously very emotional, but like mostly physical,

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Speaker 2: even though there's so many emotions in football, And actually

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Speaker 2: they're very similar. But the way that I looked at

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Speaker 2: football is probably the way that men looked at Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 2: And I hope that we've both changed our minds because

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Speaker 2: I'm like obsessed with football now, not obsessed, but like

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Speaker 2: could be obsessed. I see a way in where I

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Speaker 2: really admire players, and I've done a lot of research

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Speaker 2: recently and I've been watching a lot of documentaries about it,

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Speaker 2: and I just am like, oh, you know what, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, the Browns are doing well and they're never

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Speaker 2: doing real That's the funny thing about span bases that

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Speaker 2: Browns have never won a Super Bowl or like really

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Speaker 2: I go like, what is I know? Like it's crazy,

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Speaker 2: I don't. I guess that's a dumb question because if

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Speaker 2: have figured it out and that's the fun part of it.

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Speaker 2: But I think that's very sweet to root for such

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Speaker 2: an underdog so dieheartedly that you pay your face.

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Speaker 1: So because I'm such a huge tailor Swift family, I

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Speaker 1: now like watch Jason Kelsey's retirement speech, like that's how

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, he's like a distant That speech is

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Speaker 2: a distant cousin to you know, the Blank Space video.

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Speaker 2: Like they're on the same you know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: They're just far from each other. They're very far removed,

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Speaker 2: like everything about that family. I walk to the Kelsey documentary.

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Speaker 2: I loved it. Jason Kelce because guess what, Taylor and

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Speaker 2: Travis get along. Travis has a good fucking family. Taylor

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Speaker 2: along with everyone. So she's like, obviously she's gonna introduce

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing. It's like in that retirement speech,

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Speaker 1: she was like, it's no wonder that the best years

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Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, this is a family that

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Speaker 1: respects women, right, like yes, and his mom he said

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Speaker 2: The bread maker. I like that you said bread maker

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Speaker 2: instead of breadwinner.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry she didn't work, but she was making bread

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Speaker 2: all the time and stayed in the kitchen doing that

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Speaker 2: as she's supposed to. But we changed the name of

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Speaker 2: You know, well, that's so funny that you said she's

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Speaker 2: like she earns. But no, yes, yes, I know what

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Speaker 2: it follows. It's insane, it's so cool, it's so touching,

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Speaker 2: love equally. It's very It was an amazing documentmentary anyway,

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Speaker 2: But this is all connected, right, So we so you

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Speaker 2: debated the fan base. Can I just say about the

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Speaker 2: fan base I have yet to meet as Swifty. I

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Speaker 2: they're always nice. I say, I just wish they wanted

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Speaker 2: deep right away. And I found two girls on the

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Speaker 2: same flight from Buffalo to LaGuardia. I found two girls

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Speaker 2: that were down to talk the way you and I

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Speaker 2: talk about Taylor Swift, which you know, I don't talk

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Speaker 2: about Taylor Swift as anyone except I mean, I have

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Speaker 2: a couple of people, but the way we talk, and

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Speaker 2: talk about it because sometimes I see a tailor Swift

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Speaker 2: stuff and I'm like, hey, we get so Bots department.

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Speaker 2: It's coming out and it's like a seven year old

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Speaker 2: and she's just like, Mom, I'm scared. I'm just like

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Speaker 1: I love it. Like one time I was walking on

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Speaker 1: the streets of New York and I had a T

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Speaker 1: shirt from her Lover merch and a girl stopped me

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Speaker 1: and we like started talking about her on the street.

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Speaker 1: You know, That's why I wear her merch.

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Speaker 2: Is I want to connect with other Swifties. It's and

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Speaker 2: I'm proud to be a Taylor Swift fan and I

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Speaker 2: think she's beautiful and I like having her face on

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Speaker 2: my shirts, even though I will say there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of complaints in the merch in the subreddit Taylor Swift

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Speaker 2: that the merch They're like, we don't want her face,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, that's all I want.

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Speaker 1: That's all.

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Speaker 2: I love her name, I love the way it looks,

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Speaker 2: but like I love wearing her face, but I love

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Speaker 2: That's why I wear stuff is so people will say

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Speaker 2: something because every time I see some merch, I always

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Speaker 2: go Taylor Swift. I always go I I.

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Speaker 1: Like wearing my like merch that nobody unless you're out

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Speaker 1: a diehard Swifty you don't know. Like I have this

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Speaker 1: sweatshirt with her cat on it. That's good. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The problem is I were stuff that says Taylor Swift

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Speaker 2: and people don't come up to me. No one, I

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Speaker 2: swear to God. I know how many Swifties are out there,

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Speaker 2: but I do not get Hey, Swift eat a lot

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Speaker 2: in public. That's why this weekend it was so rare

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Speaker 2: to have two on a plane. Like usually I'm the

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Speaker 2: one to start the conversation, so I would love to

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Speaker 2: wear like That's why I like the torture to Poets

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Speaker 2: department and earrings. I got the studs because those are

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Speaker 2: a subtle nod. Yeah, they're so cute, you know, like

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Speaker 2: for instance, you I thought Taylor Swift might be at

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Speaker 2: a comedy show that I was gonna do recently, and

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Speaker 2: the first first person I texted was Nore and I

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Speaker 2: was like, Pearl, yeah, I Taylor might be there. What

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Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I think the people people in being

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Speaker 1: Right, I hope. So I know you said that you

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Speaker 2: It's so funny to be like finally it's just me

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Speaker 2: like on her upper arm, she has like these glistening

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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but when she I always get nervous singing. I

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Speaker 2: But I doubt she has that problem because she's you know,

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Speaker 1: She can do it. Got that song is incredible, Like.

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Speaker 2: So you know what, it's time to take a break.

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Speaker 2: So let's just do that and then we'll come back

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Speaker 2: it them Nor had bed okay, so torture Poets, let

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Speaker 2: let's get to it the Torture Poets department.

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Speaker 1: Dude.

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Speaker 2: I saw it coming. I think I told Nor, Or

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Speaker 2: I said it on the red carpet of this event,

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Speaker 2: and I'm trying to find footage of it so I

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Speaker 1: I go.

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Speaker 2: People are thinking, we're getting reputation announcement tonight, and we're

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to say thank you to all the

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Speaker 1: and the Detective Twists Swifties I love so much because

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Speaker 2: this episode that I like I made. I found a

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Speaker 2: when we get to it. But I do. I do

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Speaker 2: appreciate everyone showing me what to look for. And also

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't the two things. I wouldn't have noticed on

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Speaker 2: then I started seeing, you know, saying it more. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's so many layers to this. Before torture potes came out, like,

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Speaker 2: let's say, was this what you expected it to be?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely not absolutely repeting. I was expecting something more along

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Speaker 2: Oh, it is dense. This is James Joyce era for

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Speaker 2: Taylor of Just Like, and I don't even know what

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Speaker 2: it so much because it's so dense. I remember someone

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Speaker 2: and like, it's just I'm saying that obviously he's a genius,

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Speaker 2: what some of this is. Like, I mean, I'll get

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Speaker 2: the lyrics challenging to me.

435
00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,560
Speaker 1: That word rivulet. I have to look it up.

436
00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,040
Speaker 2: Rivulet. That was the one where I go, okay, I've

437
00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,720
Speaker 2: got pretty much all of these other words Rivulet. I go,

438
00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:45,600
Speaker 2: she got me, she got me? And then you it's

439
00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,840
Speaker 2: revealed how not stupid. I say stupid with love because

440
00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,000
Speaker 2: I'm stupid because I don't know rivulet, so stupid in

441
00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,359
Speaker 2: that way things you don't know. I'm very shocked to

442
00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:58,840
Speaker 2: find out how many people don't know, like soliloquy. I'm

443
00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:03,560
Speaker 2: just like you, that's okay. We're all at different places

444
00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,320
Speaker 2: in our lives. And I didn't know what rivulet was,

445
00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,080
Speaker 2: and I'm sure there's to be someone that would be like, oh,

446
00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,120
Speaker 2: you don't know what to rivule it, And I still

447
00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:10,480
Speaker 2: don't because I didn't look it up. I just marked

448
00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,080
Speaker 2: it too, so when you'll have to reveal that when

449
00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,280
Speaker 2: we get to it. I think the imaging that first

450
00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,680
Speaker 2: came out for Torture Poets, I was like I thought

451
00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,960
Speaker 2: it was going to be I didn't know what to

452
00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,480
Speaker 2: I guess I had zero expectations because I'd always get clowned,

453
00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,720
Speaker 2: you know, like I don't you know. What my expectations

454
00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,040
Speaker 2: were was that it's going to be my favorite album

455
00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,919
Speaker 2: because it always is, yes, and that you know what

456
00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,160
Speaker 2: else I expected. I would struggle with it at first,

457
00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,520
Speaker 2: not struggle, but just be like like, it's a lot

458
00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,919
Speaker 2: of like work memorizing this, and I'm not attached to

459
00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,400
Speaker 2: these songs yet. I can feel it calming, and then

460
00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,400
Speaker 2: it's like the beginning of a relationship, you know, where

461
00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,000
Speaker 2: you're like I want to get out there and date.

462
00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,520
Speaker 2: I'm so excited to like meet someone and like find

463
00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,560
Speaker 2: that person, but I have to like meet them and

464
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,240
Speaker 2: have an awkward phase of like getting to know it,

465
00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,439
Speaker 2: and then oh my god, you get you start to

466
00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,440
Speaker 2: fall in love. And then right now I think is

467
00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,240
Speaker 2: the sweet spot for most diehard Swifties. Three days, four

468
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,159
Speaker 2: days out of the album. You are now listening to

469
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,399
Speaker 2: certain songs on repeat. You are memorizing lyrics. They're coming naturally,

470
00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,080
Speaker 2: you don't have to work for it. This is like

471
00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,480
Speaker 2: the this is the Limerence stage, which I've talked about

472
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,360
Speaker 2: a lot on podcasts. This is the that buzzy I'm

473
00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:23,040
Speaker 2: in love drug feeling of of the of the torture

474
00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,120
Speaker 2: poets of a new album release. So thirty one songs, though,

475
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,680
Speaker 2: I was like, are you fucking I cannot believe we

476
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 2: I'm so grateful. I was intimidated by it. But I

477
00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,920
Speaker 2: read something on Reddit of someone complaining about that it's

478
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:39,159
Speaker 2: too many songs and the girl some I assume she

479
00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 2: was a girl. That's like, I guess sexism. But they said, so,

480
00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,840
Speaker 2: just don't listen to the ones you don't like, Like,

481
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,359
Speaker 2: it's not like you. It's not a movie where you

482
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 2: have to watch through a scene and fast forward. Just

483
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,119
Speaker 2: like pick the ones you like and like, don't you

484
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 2: think there's maybe something here for everyone? And who cares?

485
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,679
Speaker 2: Like do you like her to keep songs vaulted for?

486
00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 2: Do you want to keep vaulted forever? I want to

487
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,159
Speaker 2: hear everything. I want to hear your voice, mama was.

488
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,600
Speaker 2: I want to hear her grocery lists. I want to

489
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 2: hear anything she writes, so put it all out absolutely.

490
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 1: Even when she posted that Fortnight's video, I watched it

491
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,199
Speaker 1: like one hundred times, like I just want to know

492
00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 1: everything she does.

493
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:14,639
Speaker 2: You mean the real so much?

494
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 1: Yes, the real, the real.

495
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,919
Speaker 2: Oh my god. And then kissing her. I saw my

496
00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 2: cell phone case, which I bought because there was a

497
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,920
Speaker 2: I found out about her cell phone case ages ago.

498
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 2: And this is before Ara's tour that she had this

499
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,119
Speaker 2: cell phone case. She still has it, and so do I.

500
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 2: It was maybe before it was I think it was

501
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 2: before Eras started. I got this case and and I

502
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 2: saw it in the think I'm like, oh my god,

503
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 2: she still has it too, Because when I was at Airas,

504
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 2: I was filming her obviously with my phone, and I

505
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, I wonder if because you know,

506
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,399
Speaker 2: when you see your own phone case, you're like like

507
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,119
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, maybe she sees it

508
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,400
Speaker 2: because when I was in the front row, but then

509
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 2: she also was wearing a KU shirt and that and

510
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 2: I went to Ku. She was in the plate where

511
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,800
Speaker 2: she's doing that. K. Yeah, so she's wearing a KU shirt.

512
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 2: So that was major for KU and yes, so and

513
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,679
Speaker 2: then Travis kissing her, and then her just having so

514
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,120
Speaker 2: much fun and living so much life and usually very

515
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,120
Speaker 2: threatened by women who are like, have so many hobbies

516
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 2: and are crafty and can bake and just look like

517
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 2: that they have a full life, and I'm like, why

518
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 2: can't I be like that. I don't feel that way

519
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 2: with her. I'm just like, yes, you're superhuman.

520
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 1: Because she's my friend, because she's my best friend, and

521
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:24,400
Speaker 1: I want everything good.

522
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 2: To even want that for my best friends. I'm so

523
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 2: I think be jealous, and not that I don't. I'm kidding.

524
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 2: I want that for my best friends. I can get

525
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 2: jealous of my best friends though, But Taylor, I'm just like,

526
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 2: because I compare myself, but I don't really compare myself

527
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 2: to her. I think people think I do, and sometimes

528
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:42,199
Speaker 2: maybe I can, because I'm just like, you know, it

529
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 2: just frustrates me that I won't ever be as good

530
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 2: as her, you know, like in the ways that I

531
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 2: wish I was good. You know, I'm good in different ways,

532
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 2: but overall, I just I'm so grateful that I like

533
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 2: don't feel if I was a musician, I think I

534
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 2: would maybe have a hard time listening to her because

535
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,080
Speaker 2: she's so pro like the way we feel about the

536
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 2: way I feel about John Mulaney. Sometimes I'm like, I

537
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 2: don't really feel like watching him because he's so good

538
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 2: at el Chappelle that it's like it makes me go,

539
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 2: what am I even doing?

540
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. I have to

541
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,920
Speaker 1: stop watching comedy even sometimes live. I'm just like, I'm

542
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: here to do my set. I'm doing the best I can.

543
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: I worked all day on my jokes, you know, and

544
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,119
Speaker 1: whether and that's the thing with stand up, because we

545
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: have to follow each other, so it's the comparison is

546
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,359
Speaker 1: right there and it's immediate. So I just leave. I'm like,

547
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope everyone's doing.

548
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,880
Speaker 2: One that's a really good idea. Yeah, yeah, I don't

549
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 2: really I leave right away too, not for that, but

550
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 2: sometimes when I do it, if I have a set

551
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 2: that is is not great, I will leave because I

552
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 2: don't want to hear the next person get them. Oh no,

553
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 2: way can't.

554
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 1: That's exactly what happened last night. Like I got heckled

555
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: like five times and then the host did fun to common,

556
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 1: Me did great, No different people in the audience. It

557
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 1: was wild. It was the wildest experience.

558
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 2: Are you performing in like oil Country and uh, Cleario?

559
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 1: Well it's at a theater, so I read a theater

560
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: would be nice, that's the thing. Yeah, I had never

561
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: been to Like it was in Windsor, Ontario, and it's

562
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 1: close to Detroit and there's this like grittiness. It's like

563
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: a blue collar city. Yeah, and I don't it's maybe

564
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: they don't.

565
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 2: See a lot of comedy so they don't know not to.

566
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 2: Or they were just really drunk. And I'm not saying

567
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 2: that I think it was drunk, but they both.

568
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it was both. There was a woman who

569
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 1: was for sure drunk because I have a joke about

570
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 1: how I'm on medication and she's like, you're medicated. Sing it?

571
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 1: And I was like, what does that mean? Sing it?

572
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,880
Speaker 2: God? I hate when they're unintelligible. Yeah, you know where

573
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 2: You're just like that didn't make sense. I can't even

574
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 2: do anything with that? What does that mean? Like it's

575
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,679
Speaker 2: so distracting? Yeah, and you know what, but you can

576
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 2: do it with a broken heart.

577
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: I did. I did?

578
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 2: You know you just like because your heart will be

579
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 2: that song I love because you your heart can be

580
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 2: breaking in so many different ways. Anya was like, I

581
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 2: played that song for Anya and Matt and my friend

582
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 2: Ari this weekend and I like sang it hard on

583
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 2: the way home from doing you know, I did three

584
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 2: shows this weekend. It was like first and Keegan, Illinois,

585
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 2: then I flew to the next night, I was in

586
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 2: Niagara Falls, New York, and then the next night I

587
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 2: was in flew to Long Island and it was just

588
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 2: like boom boom boom, and I was kind of like,

589
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 2: oh tired, and I was doing it with a broken heart.

590
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: And then I and then we were listening that song

591
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 2: on the way home from the third show late at night.

592
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 2: I have like a five am flight. I'm like, oh

593
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 2: my god. And then I'm like I sang the song

594
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 2: and then Annie afterwards, I was like, do you relate

595
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 2: to that song? And I was like, oh, are you

596
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 2: kidding me? And she was like, but you're not, like

597
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 2: your heart's not you're not like going through heartbreak. I'm

598
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 2: like no, but she's just talking about like anyone that

599
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 2: has to get through anything when your heart is broken,

600
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 2: Like my heart can be broken for the fact that

601
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 2: I'm not getting a lot of sleep right now, or

602
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 2: I'm overbooked, I feel lonely.

603
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 1: I feel that's the thing that's performing. Like I used

604
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: to have a day job and then comedy was my outlet.

605
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 1: But when your art form becomes your job, it doesn't

606
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 1: matter what's going on behind the scenes. You could be crying,

607
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 1: you could be having a bad day, you could be groggy,

608
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter because people paid and you're there

609
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: to put on a show and that's what that is.

610
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,199
Speaker 2: But you're also there to be authentic. I think, for

611
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 2: at least for if that's why I would like to

612
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 2: be a pop star sometimes because I could just like

613
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 2: become this shiny performer that just hits her mark, you know.

614
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 2: But with comedy, for me, at least where I'm at,

615
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: it's like I have to be fluid and I want

616
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 2: to talk from a place of like authenticity, and it's

617
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 2: kind of in the moment, and especially when I'm depressed,

618
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 2: I can't I guess that's true. Like I could turn

619
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 2: on a switch and just do the jokes the way

620
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 2: that I wrote them and figure out how to find

621
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,120
Speaker 2: that style, but my brain doesn't work. Sometimes I can't

622
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 2: do it with a broken heart, and sometimes my broken

623
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 2: heart just spills out on the stage and then I

624
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 2: get too honest about like life sucks right now. But

625
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: I do avoid that more often. It just doesn't work

626
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 2: because people can sense the sadness and they don't really

627
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 2: want to you kind of like, if you want to

628
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 2: like put some sadness into your stuff, I think it

629
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 2: has to be a little bit performative because real sadness

630
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 2: people are like, oh no, worried.

631
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. I hate it when they all after a joke,

632
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, you're.

633
00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:00,719
Speaker 2: Not your god, oh oh, dear god. Well this this

634
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 2: is interesting because we're talking about our relationship with the

635
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 2: audience in the crowd and what we expect to from

636
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 2: them and what they sometimes disappoint us in ways they

637
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 2: disappoint us. And Taylor, for the first time ever, really

638
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 2: addressed her fans in this album and can of she

639
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 2: kind of came at us and I fucking love it.

640
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 2: I'm here for it. And it's not because I'm like,

641
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 2: I'm not a Hannah or a Sarah.

642
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: What is it Sarah's and hannasy best.

643
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not that, Like I think a lot of

644
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 2: stuffies are telling themselves No, I'm not that, and there

645
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 2: are a lot of parts of me that are not that.

646
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 2: But I have mouthed off about her. I've literally been

647
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 2: on on you know, file doing it on Miss Americana

648
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 2: the documentary. I am mouthing off. I'm being a Hannah

649
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: live on whatever BuzzFeed show. So I've been that in

650
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 2: the past, and I try not to do that, and

651
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 2: that's why I wanted to do this podcast and just

652
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 2: do it all positive like, because that's all I really

653
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 2: want to be anyway. I don't want to be critical.

654
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 2: We get more album drops than any other fan base, Yes, sure,

655
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 2: but those nights that they have and are so special.

656
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 2: Where were you when you first listened?

657
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: So I really hate to say this, and I want

658
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 1: to Oh, I didn't.

659
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 2: Mean to set you up for this, but you are.

660
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 2: I made a TikTok about you.

661
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: You did.

662
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it got posted. I haven't checked it,

663
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 2: but it was like me, uh, struggling to say no

664
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 2: to you when you said you had a link for

665
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: a leak, Yeah, but I did say no. I turned

666
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 2: it down, and really it wouldn't have changed anything in

667
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 2: her life, but I just I wanted to experience it

668
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 2: the way everyone was was doing it. But I was

669
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 2: tempted to do it because I wasn't gonna be able

670
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 2: to listen as soon as it came out because I

671
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: was going to be on stage. So I was like, oh,

672
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 2: I deserve to listen to it early, but I didn't.

673
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 2: Where were you when you first started listening? Like what

674
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 2: you're setting in.

675
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: My pajamas in my bed packing for this tour. I

676
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: get a message from a comic. He's like, hey, I

677
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: have a I know you're like by the book, but

678
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: are you I have a leak if you're interested, And

679
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: I said, yes, send it to me, put it in

680
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 1: my veins. So he sent it to me and I

681
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: literally I had to stop packing and I just sat

682
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: there with my iPad listening. And then, because it's not

683
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: like Spotify where it goes to each song, I have

684
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: to manually go in and listen, and it's so frustrating

685
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 1: because I don't have the lyrics. I'm trying to figure

686
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: out what the lyrics say.

687
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 2: Lead I mean, neither did anyone at first. I guess

688
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: some of them started leaking because of the leak the

689
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 2: lyrics beforehand, but they were it's hard to they took

690
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 2: they were on Spotify and then they took them off.

691
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: Did you notice that? No, I mean, at least for me,

692
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: I cannot find the lyrics that they were on it

693
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: for a day. I think it was on Saturday they

694
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 2: were on it. I was on a treadmill. I was learning,

695
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 2: but but Daddy, I love him. And then the next

696
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 2: day I tried to pull up the lyrics and they

697
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 2: were gone. Some of them were wrong, so I would

698
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 2: hope that they would be gone to become right. Because

699
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:49,479
Speaker 2: of some of them, I was like, that's not what

700
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 2: she's saying right there. But yeah, it's hard to listen

701
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 2: without lyrics. So yeah, you like kind of set the

702
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: tone for yourself. Did you listen to the whole Was

703
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 2: all thirty one leaked early?

704
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: No? Only the first only the album? It sounds, yeah,

705
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: the first So I had no idea there was going

706
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: to be thirty one any.

707
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 2: Gee, good for you protecting that the second half? Yeah,

708
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 2: so yeah, you woke up to I mean I had

709
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 2: texted you I'm sure, you got many texts, but saying

710
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 2: like it's a double album. And then you texted me

711
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:17,959
Speaker 2: in that morning and we're like, oh my god, I'm

712
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 2: getting into it now.

713
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: Yes, And I was trying so hard because I wanted

714
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: you to enjoy the album for yourself, so I was

715
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: trying not to give you any information, but I was

716
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: dying for you to live.

717
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 2: No, you gave me some and it was it felt

718
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: really good. I forgot what you told me specifically, but

719
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 2: I was.

720
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: Like, will you asked me if there were any bops

721
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: and I said, like, there's one bob mostly not bombs.

722
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 2: Bops.

723
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, bops, yes, no, no bomb.

724
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: I thought you said bombs and I was like, did

725
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 2: I ask that?

726
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: No?

727
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 2: No, no, yeah, And you told me. I forget what you

728
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 2: told me, but I'm guessing my boy only breaks his

729
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: favorite toys.

730
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: No. The bop was I can do it with a

731
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: broken heart because that's the more.

732
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 2: That is the bo I mean, yeah, that's the boppyist

733
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: one for sure. You're right, You're right. Yeah, I will

734
00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 2: argue that some of these are bops when they don't

735
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: sound like it, like there's I was just talking to

736
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 2: a swifty this weekend and we both agreed that is

737
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 2: it over now is a bop that doesn't sound like

738
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 2: it because it starts so slow. You know, it's like

739
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: when the Fly has fun, it's just really soft, and

740
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 2: then it's like, let's fast forward, and then it just

741
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: like kicks in and it's like it's it's somewhere in

742
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: between a boat, but it becomes like this. I don't know,

743
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 2: I need a description for how I feel in my

744
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 2: soul with some of these songs. How uplifting and like

745
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 2: they like scoop me up, like I feel like I'm

746
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: flying sometimes.

747
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: These Vault tracks have been incredibly life changing.

748
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: Like we'll do a podcast about the Vault like, okay,

749
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 2: like nineteen eight nine Vault tracks, What a fucking gift?

750
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 2: What a and if you know, and that's that's as

751
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: much music as people get from their bands, if they're

752
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: it's generous, you know, it's like a you know, she's

753
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 2: given us these vult tracks. She's given us like fifteen

754
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty new tracks a year. Yeah, oh wow,

755
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 2: and they've been such bangers.

756
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: All credible. Some of my favorite Vault tracks were from

757
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: the Red album. I will say, I was like, how

758
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: did you not?

759
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: What are we talking when you say that, because I'm

760
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 2: I'm I'm having a trouble recalling the Red Vault tracks.

761
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 2: But oh, oh my god, I bet you think about

762
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 2: me get the fuck out.

763
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: Yes exactly, I bet that's song new.

764
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 2: Yes, well nothing new, I mean, and she you know,

765
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 2: definitely does like a little reprise of nothing new in

766
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 2: this there's like echoes of nothing new in this album.

767
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 2: I would love let's look.

768
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: At echoes of past songs in this album.

769
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, because yes, that would come up. Okay, Oh, the

770
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 2: ten minute version. I mean, obviously I don't even think

771
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 2: of that as Vault track because it's so just now

772
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: what the song is like.

773
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: I love the first time. It's such a beautiful song.

774
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: I know it's very like uppity and like the very

775
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: first night. Yeah, oh, the very first night.

776
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't think I know that one song. I

777
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 2: don't think I'm like locked in with that one.

778
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: Oh, I love it. I know it's one of my

779
00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: favors from the Vault.

780
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 2: I could Okay, I know the very first Night. Please.

781
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 2: I just started playing and I was like, there's no

782
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: way I don't know the song. I know it very well.

783
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: That's a new that's a Vault track. Yes, that just

784
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 2: came out because I feel like I've known the song forever.

785
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: No, it's a volt track. Her version of Babe is

786
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: a vulttra.

787
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that I've loved both versions so much.

788
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 2: And uh and also better Man, that was so exciting

789
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 2: to get. I really like run. But I don't think

790
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 2: a lot of people are crazy about that. But I

791
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 2: mean message in a bottle like it? Message is like

792
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 2: no one had heard Message in a Bottle before. That's

793
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 2: not that seems crazy to me.

794
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: No, No, we have not. We had never heard it.

795
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:40,719
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you better Man. I am so obsessed

796
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: with that song. There's a YouTube video of her singing

797
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: it acoustically at the cafe. Have you seen Do you

798
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about?

799
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 2: I haven't memory, I haven't memorized. I even have the

800
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: old man who's playing next to her his motions memorized,

801
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 2: where he goes like times kind of sings.

802
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: I download.

803
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 2: It's amazing the least, And yes, it's incredible podcast about her,

804
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: our favorite live performances of hers that we watch on YouTube. Yes,

805
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 2: you know, like that would be fun? That is that's

806
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 2: a great.

807
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 1: Red one, the red one on the boat.

808
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 2: Oh in the living room with all the people who

809
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 2: are like hearing her in.

810
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: The laugh where she's on the boat in Paris. I

811
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 1: don't know that you know what I'm talking about, no

812
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: unless less ten babe, babe.

813
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 2: Oh okay great. And I saw her live performance. I

814
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 2: saw her do the nineteen eighty to nine rooftop performance.

815
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever seen that. She does

816
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 2: Welcome to New York on the rooftop. I was there.

817
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 2: I could see my little ponytail because Chris, my boyfriend,

818
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: produced it, and so and we were kind of broken up,

819
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 2: but it was like we're thinking about getting back together.

820
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 2: And he was like, hey, I'm doing this project. I

821
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 2: think you might be interested. And I'm like, oh my god.

822
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 2: I jumped out of bed. I was so depressed. I

823
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 2: jumped out of bed and I just like got in

824
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 2: a cab and went right there. I didn't even look cute,

825
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 2: and I was. She saw me. I was. I'd met

826
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 2: her on the Red Tour beforehand, but she's right there.

827
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 2: I always forget about this interaction with her. But she

828
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 2: was about to start where she's like walking through the

829
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 2: village thunder music glow. You know, she's doing like and

830
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 2: she walks and then she gets on stage. When she

831
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: walks through the crowd, she was about to start walking

832
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 2: and they took off her jacket and it was freezing.

833
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 2: I mean, this was my winter in like it wasn't

834
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: it was maybe it was, it wasn't like that hot

835
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 2: or whatever. And then I looked at her and she

836
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 2: was kind of like an, I go, uh, I go

837
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 2: it's cold. I like mouthed that to her and she goes,

838
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 2: it is. Yeah. So I carried that with me. I

839
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 2: didn't remember who said what, but I definitely I don't

840
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 2: think she was the first to initiate it. I just

841
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 2: remember our interaction was it's cold, it is and I'm like, yes, okay,

842
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 2: so let's start with the first single off the Torture

843
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 2: Poets Department, the anthology we're gonna hope to get We're

844
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 2: just gonna do. Let's just do the first songs. We're

845
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 2: gonna do the first sixteen songs, the first release okay,

846
00:35:55,120 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 2: the leak, and the first song Fortnite featuring post This.

847
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 2: I love this for a single. It is. When it

848
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 2: first came out, I was like, oh, it's a little

849
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 2: bit slower than I'm like a single to be. But

850
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 2: I trust her with her singles. I am a huge

851
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: fan of me. I'm so glad that that was her single.

852
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 2: I embraced it. It got me ready for Lover. I

853
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 2: loved it so much. I still love that song. I'm

854
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 2: just obsessed. I'm only just sad that she took out

855
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: spelling is fun because I thought that was hilarious, which

856
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 2: we have another spelling for is fun lyric to discuss

857
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 2: that people are like she why did she say that?

858
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 2: That's so weird? And they don't get that she's making

859
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 2: She's in on the joke, idiots. Okay, we'll get to

860
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 2: that later. But fortnite, I love this and it has

861
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 2: grown on me substantially. It is probably in my top five.

862
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:41,720
Speaker 1: Wow.

863
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 2: Really yeah, at this point, it's just so It's such

864
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: a smooth, slick song, and it makes its starting to

865
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: make me like drum up feelings in me that I

866
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 2: don't even understand. I don't even know it's about, you know, like, uh,

867
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 2: I haven't dug into the lyrics. Have you dug into

868
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: it at all?

869
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: Yes? I mean I whenever she collaborates with someone, I

870
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: like to go into it more just because i'd like

871
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: to see like I'd like to know what she was

872
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: thinking why she asked that specific person to collaborate with

873
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: her on the song. Oh interesting, Yeah, and because he's

874
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: one of only two for this album, so I was like,

875
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: I want to like no more and I have to

876
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: be honest, it's a slow burn for me fortnight.

877
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, that's okay. There's gonna be those for this,

878
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 2: especially this album. We all know as Swifties that like

879
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: some songs don't resonate with us deeply until we're like

880
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: ready for them to sink in, but that they are

881
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 2: all capable of getting us in like a wild way

882
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 2: when we suspect it. This one is going to get me.

883
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 2: I think I'm just starting my love affair with it,

884
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 2: like in terms of like it's the one I go

885
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 2: to to repeat. I was a functioning alcoholic till nobody

886
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 2: noticed my new aesthetic. I mean her saying that if

887
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 2: she's you know, she's kind of playing a character in

888
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 2: the song. She's talking about like my neighbor and your wife,

889
00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:01,280
Speaker 2: like Taylor Switt doesn't have neighbors. Yeah, there's there's imagery

890
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 2: in this that is not her life that I think

891
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 2: is like kind of a folklore character thing. Because right

892
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 2: it's like, yes, it gets too I haven't really gotten

893
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 2: into this. Look, all my mornings are Monday, stuck in

894
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 2: endless February. I took the miracle move on drug. The effects

895
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 2: were temporary. I mean, I guess this is she's talking

896
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 2: about her relationship that she jumped into out of her

897
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 2: other relationship. I love you. Yeah.

898
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 1: It kind of rids me of evermore where she was

899
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: like stuck in November or like, I don't know. I

900
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 1: just love how when she uses specific months to conjure

901
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: up imagery because there's things we associate withevery like it's

902
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: so cold, it's very depressing, and so she's just stuck

903
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: in that on a Monday because of this guy.

904
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 2: WHOA hold on, I'm sorry, I'm reading these lyrics and

905
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 2: I'm starting to understand that I'm totally missing the mark

906
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 2: on this. Are people not thinking that this is where

907
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 2: it's dicey nor I don't want to be a Hannah

908
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 2: and Sarah and discuss who the songs are about, so

909
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 2: I'm not going to use names. I'm just gonna talk

910
00:38:55,880 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 2: in as trying to be poetic about talking about poetry

911
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 2: as I can. But okay, so the lyrics are you know.

912
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 2: Uh this is so this is someone that she's taking

913
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 2: a pill. She's taking a drug to get over, to

914
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: get over the symptoms of something else. Is what I'm taking,

915
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 2: this says, And this drug is going to be temper.

916
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 2: The effects of the drug are temporary, and fortnite is

917
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 2: two weeks, so in a fortnite, So for two weeks,

918
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 2: it was like we were forever. We were gonna last

919
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 2: run into you sometimes ask about the weather. Now you're

920
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: in my backyard, turned into good neighbors. Now you're like

921
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 2: kind of hanging in my scene. Uh you're like friends

922
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 2: with my friends. That's we're neighbors. Your wife waters flowers,

923
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 2: I want to kill her? Now, who knows what that is?

924
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 2: Because I maybe that person moved on and she's already

925
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 2: seeing it. And uh like, is she talking about what

926
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 2: we're who we think we're she's talking about? And then

927
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 2: she says, my husband is cheating. I want to kill him?

928
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 2: Is that? Are people making much of that line and

929
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 2: what she might be saying with that?

930
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't even notice it until you pointed

931
00:39:58,840 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: it out, to be honest.

932
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 2: So if she if she is the character, and let's

933
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: that's let's let's just say that sometimes she does that

934
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 2: and these she speaks in metaphors. There's so this is

935
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 2: this could be about her life and she's just saying

936
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: good neighbors as like you would say that people you know,

937
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 2: she's just But that is that stands out to me

938
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 2: because I think that's the what the I think that's

939
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: the album we thought we were getting with this, which

940
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 2: is like I kept saying, it's gonna be answers to

941
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 2: what happened in that relationship, which is none of my

942
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 2: goddamn business. I want to repeat over and over. None

943
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 2: of this is my business, and it's it's just fun

944
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 2: to dissect. It's interesting because it's someone's personal life. I

945
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 2: tend to share a lot of my personal life with

946
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: the public, and as someone who puts themselves open to that,

947
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 2: I appreciate when someone else does, and I like to

948
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 2: reward it by being nosy and hand speculating and gossiping.

949
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: But if I, if I may say something about that,

950
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: like as fans, we're so invested in her music and

951
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: so much of a reputation and Lover was about this,

952
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: so for us it's like, yes, it's her personal life,

953
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,959
Speaker 1: but it's manifested itself in her art, and we would

954
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: just like to know what happened, you know, from beginning

955
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: to end.

956
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 2: And when you consume art, even if it's a TV

957
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: show or like a movie, there's a lot that's left

958
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 2: off the table that you don't see that ends up

959
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 2: in the final art piece. But it's appropriate to discuss

960
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: what could have happened behind that closed door about that movie,

961
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 2: you know, like they purposely leave out details in movies

962
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 2: and things and you can speculate, like what, you know,

963
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 2: what did Logan roy? Did he underline his name or

964
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 2: cross it out? We'll never know, but something happened, and

965
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 2: we could know because the narrator of succession made it

966
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 2: up and he could tell us what that was, but

967
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: he purposely left it out for us to speculate and

968
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 2: to talk about it and discuss it. So in a

969
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 2: similar way, I'm justifying discussing who these are about and

970
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: what it could be. And honestly, I'm trying to apply

971
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 2: it to my own life, like it helps me. If

972
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,439
Speaker 2: she's if I'm like, oh, she's talking about the fling

973
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 2: she had to get over someone else, Okay, great, I

974
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 2: know who that is in her life. I know who

975
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 2: that person in her life. Kind of represents in my life.

976
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: This is going to help me feel it in a

977
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 2: different way. So I'm justifying being a little bit of

978
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 2: a Sarah and Hannah right now.

979
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: But I literally had a dream about my Maddie he

980
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: Ley the night before the album came out, and it's

981
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: only now making sense to me that, like, oh, this

982
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 1: album is about not about Joe, It's about Maddie. And

983
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: I just feel like, just because something is fleeting or

984
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: with the first six weeks, does it mean it does

985
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: it have a profound impact? Like, yes, I dated a

986
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: guy for six weeks three years ago, but sometimes I

987
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: still dream of him because it's like, you don't know

988
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: how people will affect you.

989
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't believe anyone would ever begrudge her writing

990
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 2: an entire thirty one album song if she wanted to

991
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 2: about someone she had a weekend with. Because this is

992
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 2: Miss Taylor Swift. Do not forget that she is able

993
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 2: to uh distill her emotions, and not distill is the word.

994
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 2: She's able. Her emotions are so complex that there's so

995
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 2: many different things going on, and she's able to dissect

996
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 2: her emotions in a way that we can't. So the

997
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: feeling roller coaster, you go through a falling in love

998
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,479
Speaker 2: with one for a weekend or even having a tryst

999
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: like could elicit thirty one songs. So and we got

1000
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 2: don't forget We got all too well out of her

1001
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 2: thing with Jake, which people say is like that's she's

1002
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 2: been like bitching up, but she's been crying about this

1003
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 2: for so long, So what I yeah, personally, I have

1004
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: some of the most intense love love affair moments were

1005
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 2: the shortest in my life, and they burned so bright,

1006
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 2: and they are I would say a thing that I

1007
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 2: think about more. I think about those relationships when I

1008
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,439
Speaker 2: listen to Taylor's with more than I do my good

1009
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 2: relationships that were long longer. And that's why I think

1010
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 2: we didn't get the album we all thought we were

1011
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 2: gonna get in this because how did it end? She

1012
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: doesn't even know. She hasn't processed that yet. And you

1013
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 2: know what, the songs about the person that may have

1014
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 2: come after right after as a you know, as a

1015
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 2: response to it, are still about the main person, because

1016
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: that is she was. It was a drug she took

1017
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 2: because of the main person. So we are getting an

1018
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 2: album about Joe. We are like she's she's talking about

1019
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 2: the booze she consumed to help the heal the confusion

1020
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 2: and the disappointment of the Joe thing ending. So it

1021
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 2: is an album about him and or you know what,

1022
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: it's whatever. It's an album about so many things. But Fortnite,

1023
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 2: I think, is kicking off the overall theme that we

1024
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 2: returned to again again, which is this person, this this

1025
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 2: thing that she turned to to heal a broken heart.

1026
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: And we are also setting up she is broken hearted.

1027
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: And I like that. It's like I only touched you

1028
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: for a fortnite. She's just telling us, like, I only

1029
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: touch you for this amount of time. Fortnite is an

1030
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:48,720
Speaker 1: English word, so it's very like, hmmm, yeah, explainating, yeah,

1031
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: what happened.

1032
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 2: She also foreshadows her viciousness in this album. We're leaning

1033
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 2: into the part of her that's like I want to

1034
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: kill her. I want to kill him that we're oh,

1035
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,720
Speaker 2: where she's you know, Taylor Swift, she's killed herself before.

1036
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 2: Oh she's dead. I mean in vigilante shit. You start

1037
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 2: to get like she foreshadowed this, but she's she's in

1038
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 2: that vigilante shit mode. And it's good. It's it's really fun,

1039
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 2: and it's unexpected. It's like when she first started cussing,

1040
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 2: like there's a side of her that's emerged that we're like, oh,

1041
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 2: bad girl, naughty girl. Okay, let's go to Torture Poet's Department.

1042
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 2: This was a slow burn for me, but it is

1043
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 2: burning good, real good. Today is peak Tortured Poets Department.

1044
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 2: I think I avoided it because it was the title track.

1045
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: I don't know why I do I would do that,

1046
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 2: but I would say the first five songs of any

1047
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 2: album she releases are usually the ones I repeat the

1048
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 2: most because I'm like, I just want to go back,

1049
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 2: and so they get the most listens. And that was

1050
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 2: the one of the first five that I wasn't listening

1051
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 2: to on like Fortnite and Torture Poets were the ones

1052
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 2: that I was The following three I really couldn't stop doing.

1053
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 2: But today I got back into TPPD and uh TTPD

1054
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 2: and it's so good and it's also about the fling, right.

1055
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: Yes, I loved it. I was like, at first, I

1056
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: was like, why wouldn't you tell someone you're dating that

1057
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: their typewriter is like weird? But then I would put

1058
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: myself in her shoes, and I was like Yeah, if

1059
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: you're dating someone, you don't want to say anything that

1060
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: might hurt their feelings or like damage.

1061
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 2: But the smallest man who ever lived, Oh my god,

1062
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 2: you have to tiptoe around people's feelings like that.

1063
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 1: Oh my god. No, but that's a.

1064
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 2: Really interesting note to point out. Nor that she like

1065
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 2: your first instinct was like, why wouldn't you just say

1066
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 2: that I think some things I never say. And and

1067
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 2: by the way, she only gives us one of the

1068
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 2: things she thinks many things. I think, I think some things,

1069
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 2: not many. Some things I never say, like who uses typewriters? Anyway,

1070
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,919
Speaker 2: she's just giving this an example of all the things

1071
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 2: she's thinking that she doesn't say. Yeah, she can't really

1072
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 2: be herself person.

1073
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: And she just got so personal. She's like she named

1074
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 1: her friends Lucy and Jack. Right, Lucy is like one

1075
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: of the girls from boy Genius and yeah, like it

1076
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,439
Speaker 1: also is just showing how like this guy is a flang.

1077
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: He came out of the blue, but he is so

1078
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: entrenched in her friend group, like they all know him.

1079
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: And for if a guy told your friend that he

1080
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: would kill your himself if you left like that is

1081
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm sorry if that's unhealthy, but it's like

1082
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: just the most reassuring thing ever in a relationship.

1083
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 2: Like I'm sorry, yeah you, I mean you got you.

1084
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 2: You relate to this. I don't. I don't relate to that.

1085
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 2: I do know that this maybe I do. I mean, like, yes,

1086
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 2: you know. What I relate to is feeling some way

1087
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 2: about someone and then feeling it this have finding out

1088
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 2: they feel the same way back, like she says, she

1089
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 2: feels it too, you know, she said, she and getting

1090
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 2: that validation that this crazy thing you're thinking isn't crazy.

1091
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 2: And she gets kind of crazy for him. I mean

1092
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 2: she is, we get it to it, but she's imagining

1093
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 2: him writing mine on her upper side, give me, give me,

1094
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,240
Speaker 2: like like I can't even handle it. It's so she is.

1095
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 2: She's in the psych word, but it's a good it's

1096
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 2: a good place to be. Like she is, she qualifies

1097
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 2: as someone who's like and I'm saying, this is someone

1098
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 2: who has these kinds of thoughts to really dark thoughts,

1099
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 2: really sexually deviant. And that's not that sexually devian, but

1100
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 2: like writing mind, like owning someone's leg is kind of

1101
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 2: a hot like almost the.

1102
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: Upper very like sexual area. The upper thigh is a

1103
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: very like intimate area.

1104
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and the way she says upper thought, like okay,

1105
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 2: we'll get to that later. Okay, So who's gonna hold

1106
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 2: you like me? And who's gonna know you if not me?

1107
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 2: And then she laughed at his face when he said

1108
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 2: she said, you're not Dylan Thomas, I'm not Patty Smith.

1109
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 2: This ain't that, Chelsea. I'll tell we're modern idiots.

1110
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1111
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 2: I love that you smoked the n eight seven bars

1112
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,439
Speaker 2: of chocolate. We declared Charlie Pooth should be a bigger artist.

1113
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 2: I scratched her head. You fall asleep like a tattooed

1114
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 2: golden retriever, but you awaken with dread and pounding nails

1115
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 2: in your head. But I've read this one. You where

1116
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 2: you come undone? I chose the cyclone with you. Okay,

1117
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 2: so she's already read this one.

1118
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: She knows what she signed up for, like she's worn

1119
00:48:59,640 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: him for.

1120
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 2: It's history here, Yeah, there's history here. And then uh,

1121
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 2: I love the way she says, no, fucking buddy, woof,

1122
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 2: that's a good drop of fucking Yeah. Yeah, this one's

1123
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 2: really good and fun and it's really grown on me

1124
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 2: and I love it and it's our worked for by

1125
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 2: my account, we're two out of two on songs about

1126
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 2: the person we didn't think we'd get an album written about.

1127
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 2: And now we're gonna go three for three because here

1128
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 2: comes My Boy Only Breaks his Favorite Toys, which is

1129
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 2: my second favorite song on the album right now. Really

1130
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,919
Speaker 2: it is, Oh my god, I'm kidding in my face

1131
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 2: thinking about the song.

1132
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: What no, wait your f okay, No, we still didn't

1133
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: get to your favorite one, yere.

1134
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 2: My favorite I think people know, but I'm gonna save

1135
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 2: it for when we get to it. Okay, My Boy

1136
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 2: Only Breaks his Favorite Toys was an instant one for

1137
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 2: me where I heard it and I was like, I

1138
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 2: love the oh oh oh oh. I loved that. I

1139
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 2: was like, oh, that's gonna be fun to saying. I

1140
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 2: think I declared on the Instagram Live that I watched

1141
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 2: with a bunch of of these that it would be

1142
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 2: I would be doing this one at karaoke, and you

1143
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 2: know I will. This one is great. I love it

1144
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 2: so much. The word rivulets do we have a definition

1145
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 2: for that? Did you look it up?

1146
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1147
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 2: You said you did. Rivulets descend my plastic smile. I'm

1148
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 2: guessing it's.

1149
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: Like a small stream of water a very small stream.

1150
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's crying. The dolls crying. So she already said.

1151
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 2: We found out on her serious XM thing that she

1152
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 2: wrote the song about. Uh, when someone like being a toy,

1153
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 2: story type toy that gets like being up and then

1154
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 2: it kind of is in denial of why it's being

1155
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,479
Speaker 2: beaten up and it kind of tells itself it's because

1156
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 2: I'm its favorite. Is that what you got from that?

1157
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: Yes? I basically got that, like I'm his favorite, like

1158
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: I you should have seen him. You should have seen

1159
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 1: him when he first got me, Like I'm number.

1160
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 2: One, there's no question she is.

1161
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm his favorite because I could have played

1162
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: for keeps this time because I got because there was

1163
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 1: I knew too much. We all know a guy in

1164
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: our life where he breaks up because things get real

1165
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: right because he can see the fo because.

1166
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 2: They say to yes, Yes, I've always joked that I

1167
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 2: just like, you know, I I used to joke that

1168
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 2: when I get rejected, I'd always say the guy was scared,

1169
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 2: you know, because I used to say that, you know,

1170
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 2: like he was scared he like truly loved me and

1171
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 2: he couldn't handle it. And I'm like he loved me

1172
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,439
Speaker 2: so much. He like he's scared. He had to run,

1173
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 2: you know, he he ran so far. He's engaged to

1174
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 2: someone else now, he was so scared of commitment. He's

1175
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 2: just like, you know, it's it's but I here's the thing.

1176
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 2: I trust Taylor and I know. I know she's so

1177
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 2: confident that this person like loved her. And I've been

1178
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 2: I've been this where I'm like, you fucking idioto have

1179
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 2: fun the rest of your life, always knowing I'm the

1180
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 2: one that got away, always knowing I knew you better

1181
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 2: than anyone else. You'll always know that you could have

1182
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 2: had me and you weren't man enough to fucking deal

1183
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 2: like to have me, and you could have and you

1184
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 2: will always regret it. You will always feel like you

1185
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 2: didn't really just succeed as much as you could in

1186
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 2: life because you were scared. Like I've told myself that,

1187
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 2: I staunchly believe that about some people in my life.

1188
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 2: I'm glad it didn't work out because it would have

1189
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 2: been a nightmare it would have ended. But like I

1190
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 2: love that they will always feel at least I will

1191
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:17,319
Speaker 2: think they always feel that way.

1192
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: So and there's times where the guy like knows you're incredible,

1193
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: but he doesn't want to date someone incredible. He wants

1194
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,919
Speaker 1: to date someone where he's the star. He's the incredible person, right,

1195
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: Like someone who feels safe or like is not going

1196
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 1: to leave him.

1197
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 2: So I trust her though I think this guy was

1198
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 2: absolutely obsessed with her, and I think she was and

1199
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 2: I think she was absolutely obsessed with him and I

1200
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 2: and and you know, you can move on in life,

1201
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 2: but like I don't. I don't think it takes any

1202
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 2: thing away from her current relationship to say that she

1203
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 2: like had some really unique, hot, loving feelings for this person.

1204
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,439
Speaker 1: Of course he saw her, ever, so he smashed it up.

1205
00:52:58,840 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 1: Like that's it.

1206
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 2: Let me just say that people are like someone I

1207
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 2: had heard was like, I hope Travis has a thick skin,

1208
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 2: like the way she talks about some you know these guys,

1209
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 2: like can you handle it? Travis is fine. She took

1210
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 2: care of Travis in this album. We will get to it.

1211
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 2: But Travis is a confident, secure man. That's why she's

1212
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 2: finally that's why she's with him. Like he he's won

1213
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 2: three super Bowls, he is a star. He is six

1214
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 2: foot four, He is dating the most. He just won

1215
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 2: a super Bowl. He's dating a princess. He's not gonna

1216
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 2: get insecure about this, and that's why he got hers,

1217
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 2: because he's not insecure because these things are over, they're

1218
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 2: in the past. So she can write all day long

1219
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,439
Speaker 2: about these guys, and I bet you Travis isn't gonna

1220
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 2: give a fuck and he's gonna bop out to them

1221
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 2: just like we are. That would be my guess, because

1222
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,879
Speaker 2: he's secure in his relationship, which he should be, because

1223
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 2: Taylor doesn't fuck around and we know how she feels

1224
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 2: about him too, and we'll get to that. Okay, next

1225
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 2: up down bad. Okay, we're going four for four. If

1226
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 2: here's word of four so far about I think the

1227
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 2: person we didn't think this would be about. This is

1228
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 2: what she says about getting abducted by aliens? Did you

1229
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 2: really beat me up just to do experiments on? Oh

1230
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 2: my god? Am I thinking about anal when she said

1231
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 2: that a little bit? Is that mostly on me? Yep?

1232
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,879
Speaker 2: Yeah it is? Okay, tell me I was the chosen one,

1233
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 2: showed me that this world is bigger than us, then

1234
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 2: set me back where I came from. I love this song.

1235
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 2: I love the verse, I love the chorus. I love

1236
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 2: that we go from space to crying at the gym,

1237
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 2: and I love that. We got a little gem snapshot

1238
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,359
Speaker 2: of her in that reel where she looked so fucking good.

1239
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 2: I screenshoted her doing that like back, like her glute workout,

1240
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 2: and I was like, on her diankle, Oh my god,

1241
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 2: she is, She's perfect. She has a perfect body. I

1242
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 2: even send it to Kirsten, my best friend who's a

1243
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 2: plate's instructor, and she was like, she has a perfect body,

1244
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 2: and I was like, yes, she does, thank you. This

1245
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 2: is that's my girl. Anya with me when I saw

1246
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 2: when it reel came out, and I was like, look

1247
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 2: at her body and I noticed, like I shouldn't even

1248
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 2: it could be at its just body's perfect at any size,

1249
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 2: at any shape. But I really was like, I'm so,

1250
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 2: she just looks so good. And Annie's just like, okay, crazy,

1251
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 2: but she's very sweet and supportive of my swiftiness, even

1252
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 2: though she definitely is like calm down, girl. But I

1253
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 2: like this song what about You.

1254
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: It's again. This one was a slow burn for me.

1255
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: I like it a lot more now. I think for

1256
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: me when I can get wrap my head around the

1257
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 1: melody of a song. And because this album has every

1258
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: song has like kind of similar rhythms as opposed to

1259
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: other albums where each song is very different. It just

1260
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: took me a while, but yes, I love this song.

1261
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 2: I thought this song stood out for me as way

1262
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 2: sounding different than the rest of the album. But that,

1263
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 2: you know that, I think is really subjective because some

1264
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 2: people are like, it all sounds the same. My argument

1265
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 2: to that, and I'm not saying you're saying that, But

1266
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 2: when people say that, I'm like, yeah, she's it's all

1267
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 2: written by the same so yeah, like and that's and

1268
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 2: if they don't sound the same, dare if she ever

1269
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 2: makes an album where everything sounds different, they say it's

1270
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 2: not cohesive. It's like her whole thing about like, if

1271
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 2: you have an ass, you won't you if you want

1272
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 2: to be thin, you won't have an ass. If you

1273
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 2: want an ass, you're not. You're gonna have a tummy.

1274
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 2: You can't fucking win. So she makes an album that

1275
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 2: sounds totally different, has a lot of different sonic sounds,

1276
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 2: which I think is redundant. Then people criticize her for

1277
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 2: being like she's all over the place, it's not a

1278
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,439
Speaker 2: cohesive album. And now this all sounds kind of the same.

1279
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,919
Speaker 2: Now you're complaining, like, yeah, it's just sound the same.

1280
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 2: She's going through something and it doesn't and it doesn't

1281
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 2: sound the same. Like I feel like for me, every album,

1282
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 2: all the songs kind of blend into each other and

1283
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 2: then they start to have personalities and you're like, oh

1284
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 2: my god. It's like when puppies are born, they all

1285
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 2: kind of are like slow and like and they like

1286
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 2: if you're picking out a puppy from a litter, you'd

1287
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 2: be like, I don't know which one. It's kind of

1288
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 2: a gamble. Who knows what these are gonna turn into

1289
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 2: for me, you know, in terms of, uh, the personality,

1290
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 2: and then that starts to emerge slowly. So that's how

1291
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 2: I feel about that, right, Okay.

1292
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: Also, just like the visual of her crying at the gym,

1293
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: it's just so relatable.

1294
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, so relatable. And you know she's working out alone

1295
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 2: because she can't go to a public gym, I mean

1296
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 2: not alone, but she's with her friends. So it's like,

1297
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 2: because I can't cry at the gym in most gyms

1298
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 2: because I'm going to well, no, because I'm in hotel gym,

1299
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 2: so I'm kind of alone a lot too. Okay, I

1300
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 2: should relate to that more. But I don't often cry

1301
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 2: at the gym. I cried at pilates and my instructor

1302
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 2: has to, like, you know, pretend like she's not saying

1303
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 2: it even though my eyes are watering up. But yeah,

1304
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 2: that's very, very relatable. I want to say the lyric

1305
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 2: down bad waking up in Blood. It reminds me of

1306
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 2: like when you start your period in the middle of

1307
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 2: the night. Oh yeah, and also there's it kind of

1308
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 2: makes me think of anal too. Okay, let's keep going.

1309
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 2: So So Long London is next, and we have our

1310
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 2: first departure from the other person that beamed her up

1311
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 2: and dropped her back down and she kind of wants

1312
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 2: to go back. Yeah, that's what that song was about.

1313
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 2: You get picked up, you get you do, they do

1314
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 2: experiments on you, and they kind of make you their own,

1315
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 2: and you kind of like it because you're not in

1316
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 2: your life and you're abducted and then they put you

1317
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,080
Speaker 2: back and you're just like where did you go? And

1318
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 2: you're kind of feeling empty and sad. So Long London

1319
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 2: we all were really excited about this one because we're like, okay, well,

1320
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 2: we're definitely getting some answers to what happened or like

1321
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 2: some insight on that did this? Did this pull through

1322
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 2: for you? Like what do you get out of the song?

1323
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: Okay, So this song I absolutely loved and it's so

1324
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 1: lyrically dense. It was the first time where it was

1325
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 1: in the album. Very was like quickquick, quick, quick, quick,

1326
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: Like what did she say? What did she say? What

1327
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 1: does she say? I think that I think I texted

1328
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: you this Renegade is about Joe, which we didn't know

1329
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: at the time about this person. And there because she's like,

1330
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 1: I'd carry you up my street and make me, make

1331
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 1: me your future history and renegade and then here she says,

1332
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: my spine split from carrying us up the hill. So

1333
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: I just felt like that was an.

1334
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 2: Extension of renegadreet make me your future history. It's time.

1335
00:58:56,560 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's really good. I forgot that. That's

1336
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 2: really a good connection.

1337
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, and just the imagery of her.

1338
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 2: Because I didn't know who I thought Renegade was about.

1339
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 2: I new who I thought it was about my own life,

1340
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 2: literally every man I've ever dealt with. But it really

1341
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 2: is one of those songs that can encompass a lot

1342
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 2: of different levels of rejection in a relationship. Or like disappointment.

1343
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: But after she put out a long story short on evermore,

1344
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, she's in a secure relationship. It's

1345
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: rock solid. This could not be about him. But now

1346
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: that after and it's just I think that all the

1347
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: answers are here, like, yeah, maybe it is juicy, yeah,

1348
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: but it's the truth. It's like someone was sad and depressed.

1349
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: They drifted apart. She just couldn't keep trying anymore.

1350
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 2: Like and I think tolerate it might be this might

1351
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 2: be giving tolerated a little bit too. Yeah, like we

1352
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 2: might be getting some insight into even as far backs

1353
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 2: tolerate it, which you know, I always wondered how about

1354
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 2: was written about? But I'm sure there's there's information on

1355
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:00,919
Speaker 2: that out there, but I have an invest But yeah,

1356
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 2: it's it's giving sweet Nothing to Me, which I always

1357
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 2: thought was a breakup song because it's just like all

1358
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 2: your like the word nothing isn't it And people forget

1359
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 2: that they go like, oh, the sweet Nothing's But it's

1360
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 2: like the word nothing is kind of hidden in that song,

1361
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 2: like you're giving me nothing, and that's kind of what

1362
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 2: it feels like. It's like, how did this end? I

1363
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 2: don't even know you're kind of giving up. And this

1364
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 2: is definitely the extension of you're losing me, you know,

1365
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 2: like you're just yeah, and you say I abandoned the ship,

1366
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 2: but I was going down with it. I don't know

1367
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 2: what to make up that one. Like, let's think of

1368
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 2: a person abandoning the ship. Yeah, but you didn't abandon

1369
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 2: the relationship.

1370
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: No.

1371
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 2: I was like in it and like I was either

1372
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 2: gonna die in it or I have to get out,

1373
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 2: But I was did she go down? I was going

1374
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 2: down with it. I just don't get what it means

1375
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 2: to say I was going down with it like you.

1376
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 2: But you did abandon it eventually, But she was.

1377
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: Like, it's the Titanic. I'm sinking. If I don't get off,

1378
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna die. Like I can't live like this.

1379
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 2: That's what the color is got to turn to her face,

1380
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 2: which is from me. My face was gray. You wouldn't

1381
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 2: admit that we were sick. I mean, there's a lot

1382
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 2: of different imagery here. That's the same. Okay, next up.

1383
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 1: Sorry, I just want to say I died at the

1384
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 1: altar waiting you swear you love me, But where was

1385
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 1: the clues? I died on the altar? Waiting for the

1386
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 1: proof that one killed me Thos, and then you start

1387
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 1: to the gods of your bluest days, like.

1388
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 2: That blue all blue, with all Joe painted the paint

1389
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 2: of the walls blue. There's a lot of you know, wait,

1390
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 2: you swore that you loved me, but where were the clues?

1391
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 2: I died on the altar, waiting waiting for the I

1392
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 2: like how she goes waiting for the proof. That's like

1393
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 2: she says such interesting ways of doing melodies.

1394
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, the rhythm and cadence of that of that

1395
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: of the verses are incredible. And I love also how

1396
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 1: she was how the beginning is like so long London,

1397
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: and then in one part just like I waited for

1398
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 1: so long.

1399
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 2: Yes, I freaked out when I heard that. I was

1400
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:04,439
Speaker 2: just like, you fu genius, you mastermind. Yeah, that song.

1401
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 2: I'm looking at these lyrics. It's it's it's great, it's

1402
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 2: so good. It's gonna go down as one of the

1403
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 2: best and most like And when she busts that thing

1404
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,560
Speaker 2: out at aras if she does theatrically what she wants

1405
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 2: to do with that song, we will all come around.

1406
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 2: Like I felt the way about My tears Ricochet. It

1407
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 2: never landed for me in the way that I needed

1408
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 2: it to. I just maybe hadn't given it the time.

1409
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 2: And then eras it's my favor it's one of my

1410
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 2: favorite songs. Same to tolerate it. Like the way she

1411
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 2: sold it theatrically, I was just like, oh, I get

1412
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 2: what she's saying, and I think this one will be

1413
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 2: very beautiful theatrically. Okay, my favorite song on the album.

1414
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 2: I'm declaring it nothing will ever even touch it because

1415
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 2: this one is like one of my favorite songs of

1416
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 2: all time. I don't want to say never touch it

1417
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 2: because there's other things that definitely touch it. But Daddy,

1418
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 2: I love him. Track six I and for you, you're saying,

1419
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 2: it's I don't want to call you out. This for

1420
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 2: you has been a skip, Yes, I'm sorry, an initial skip,

1421
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 2: which we all have, and even Taylor Swift has skips

1422
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 2: on albums, So that's not saying anything bad. I want

1423
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 2: if Taylor you're listening, by some chance, love that that

1424
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 2: does not mean anything, because, as we know, any any

1425
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 2: skip that you initially have is just whatever you're feeling

1426
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 2: in that moment. It's not you're not ready for that

1427
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 2: song yet. Like we can't handle it. It's not because

1428
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 2: it's not a good song. It's because we aren't. We aren't.

1429
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 2: We can't hear that frequency yet. That's at least what

1430
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 2: I would want to know if I were Taylor listening

1431
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 2: to this and be like, oh, do I have a

1432
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 2: skip bitch, And I'd be like, yeah, But that doesn't

1433
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 2: mean it's You're always spitting truth and the most beautiful stuff.

1434
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 2: So I there's a part of me that's like, if

1435
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 2: she hears this, I just need her to know that. Okay,

1436
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 2: But this song, I love it so much. It is

1437
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 2: just the way it just opens up and you can

1438
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 2: you can feel her running in that unbuttoned dress. And

1439
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 2: I oftentimes, like I've dated men in the past where

1440
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 2: my mom has been like Nikki, he is going to

1441
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 2: ask you to marry Ane and you're gonna say yes.

1442
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 2: I just know it. Like she thinks I'm kind of

1443
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 2: like not. She thinks I'm just like so dumb and

1444
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 2: like like just uh digmatized. I guess she doesn't use

1445
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 2: that word, but I guess she just thinks that, like

1446
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 2: he has got you wrapped around his finger. You're gonna

1447
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 2: marry him? You are? You better be careful. She's never

1448
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 2: talking about like pregnancy, because she knows that I would.

1449
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 2: I don't want to do that, even with someone I

1450
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 2: want to be with forever. But she's like, if he proposes,

1451
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 2: you're gonna say yet, Like she's always said that about

1452
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 2: these guys that I updated in the past that she

1453
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 2: was worried about. And I'm like, Mom, I would never

1454
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 2: marry this guy. What are you saying? Like, don't you

1455
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 2: think I'm in control of what I'm doing. I'm having

1456
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 2: a little fun. I'm just I don't want to get

1457
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 2: married yet, you know, like trust me. And so I

1458
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:42,479
Speaker 2: felt like when her saying like, you know I'm having

1459
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 2: his baby? No I'm not, but you should see your faces.

1460
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,560
Speaker 2: I've done that to my mom so much, not in

1461
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 2: that exact way, but just like saying something that sounds

1462
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 2: like really like threatening, like my mom's biggest fear about

1463
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 2: this person I'm dating, like being locked in forever and

1464
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 2: then being like, ah, just kidding, yeah, right, And that's

1465
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 2: what she's saying to us, guy, chill out about the

1466
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 2: Maddie thing. And I am desperately looking for it. But

1467
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 2: I fucking called this shit because I did a podcast

1468
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 2: that's two Swift two Swifty besties have alerted me to

1469
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 2: me being the one to say to that Taylor's she

1470
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 2: was there, Like one said that Taylor Swift hays she

1471
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 2: needs to know she has a friend in you because

1472
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 2: you said leave her alone about the Maddie stuff and

1473
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 2: that let her have fun. She's having fun, and like

1474
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 2: it's none of your business and she owes you nothing.

1475
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 2: I said that over and over it she owes us

1476
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 2: literally nothing, So don't get a fucking attitude about it.

1477
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 2: You don't even know her, you don't know what's going on,

1478
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 2: and shut up, Like, let her do what she wants.

1479
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 2: She could date with whoever she wants, and she's having fun.

1480
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 2: You're just jealous. I was just like so adamant that

1481
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,160
Speaker 2: all these bitches were just jealous that she's having fun

1482
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 2: and she's dating someone a little bit like wrong, which

1483
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 2: we all want to do and we all want to

1484
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 2: we all want to date a guy who makes us

1485
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 2: go but daddy, I love him like that's a bad boy.

1486
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 2: It's fun. So anyway, I want to say that I did.

1487
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 2: I was not a Hannah and a Sarah in this scenario.

1488
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 2: I am in many other ways, but and I'm so

1489
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 2: sorry to all have Sarah's and Hannah's. I know some

1490
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 2: of you I've talked to on DMS and you're like,

1491
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 2: oh no, she's like made my name personified with this thing,

1492
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 2: and it's like no, I would just actually if it

1493
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 2: said Nicky's, I would actually feel like that was a

1494
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 2: call out. So I am glad it's not my name.

1495
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 2: And I'm sorry to Sarah's and Hannah's, but you know,

1496
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 2: you've had it too good for too long. And congrats

1497
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 2: to all the girls who are Hannah without an age

1498
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 2: or Sarah without an age, because that's not that's not

1499
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 2: the words that she.

1500
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 1: Is not you.

1501
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not you. And I love that she said

1502
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 2: they try to save you because they hate you, like

1503
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 2: some of her fans hate her, and she realizes that

1504
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 2: and that is like big, that's a crazy realization to have,

1505
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 2: and they do and they want to cage her, which

1506
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 2: we get back to later. There's an imagery of cage.

1507
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 2: All right, we're back. I felt rather vindicated by but Daddy.

1508
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,200
Speaker 2: I love him. But I also it really resonated with

1509
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 2: me on a personal level. I think just musically, it's gorgeous.

1510
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 2: It builds so much when you think it's done, it

1511
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 2: starts over and uh, and then it gives you this,

1512
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 2: It gives you the best bridge of the whole album.

1513
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 2: I think, uh I or just like it's not even

1514
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 2: there's like eight bridges in the song. This song is

1515
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 2: so long, it's almost like all too well ten minute

1516
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 2: where it's just like it has so many different parts

1517
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 2: that I don't I can't even recognize what's the chorus

1518
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 2: and what's the verse, like it's it's all over the place.

1519
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:27,959
Speaker 2: But I love I love getting lost in our songs

1520
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 2: like this. But it also and this was not like

1521
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 2: a good job to cracking the code that the last

1522
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:36,000
Speaker 2: verse is about Travis, but of course it is. Of

1523
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 2: course it is. Who would think that it's still the

1524
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 2: same guy. Okay, so let's let's break it down. So

1525
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 2: the first part is talking about the person that she's

1526
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 2: talked about for four now out of now five out

1527
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 2: of the first seven songs is number.

1528
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 1: Seven, says no, this is track six six.

1529
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 2: Six, Okay, so sorry, five out of fight up that

1530
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 2: of six tracks. Yes, besides, so long London have been

1531
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 2: about this person until the very end of this, and

1532
01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 2: we get her first. We're our first thing about uh, Travis.

1533
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 2: So at the very end, she goes, uh, there's a

1534
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 2: lot of people in this town that I bestow upon

1535
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 2: my face as smiles. Uh. Scandal does funny things to pride,

1536
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:17,719
Speaker 2: but brings lovers closer. Okay, So all the fucking scandal

1537
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 2: around her relationship, guess what it did. It made their

1538
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:24,679
Speaker 2: bond stronger. So good job doing that, everyone. Uh. They

1539
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 2: you wanted to do the opposite by discouraging or from

1540
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 2: doing it, but it actually brought them closer together because

1541
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 2: they were being judged so much, which you know, Uh,

1542
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 2: of course that happens, but we don't think it would

1543
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 2: h When we came back, the heat died down, We

1544
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:38,559
Speaker 2: went to my parents and they came around, so okay,

1545
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 2: so they kind of separated a little bit, then they

1546
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 2: came back together, and then by the time all the

1547
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 2: speculation and the massive attention of around it died down,

1548
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 2: she went to her parents. Her parents were like, actually,

1549
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 2: we really like him, and then all the wine moms

1550
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 2: were still not convinced. But you know what, it doesn't

1551
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:56,680
Speaker 2: even matter because it's already over. It's already over, but

1552
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:59,600
Speaker 2: fuck them, it's over. And so that's she says. She

1553
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 2: literally it's over. So of course the next part is

1554
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 2: about someone different. So now she literally says, now I'm dressing. Now, Okay,

1555
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 2: we're now. So I don't understand why people were so

1556
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 2: amazed that they figured out the crack, the code that

1557
01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:12,600
Speaker 2: she's talking about Travis. Now now I'm dancing in my

1558
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 2: dress in the sun. And even my daddy just loves him.

1559
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 2: We know her dad loves Travis. I'm his lady. And

1560
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,720
Speaker 2: oh my god, you should see your faces. Look at

1561
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 2: your faces. Now, you thought you thought I was gonna

1562
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 2: end up with that guy, and you're so worried. And

1563
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 2: when I when it looked like I was maybe gonna

1564
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:28,880
Speaker 2: marry him, you guys were so shocked. You look at

1565
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,160
Speaker 2: your dumb faces. Then now look at your faces. That

1566
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 2: guy you were worried about, he's so long gone. And

1567
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 2: now I'm with the most desirable person imaginable. I'm America's

1568
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 2: sweetheart with America's other sweetheart, and we were on the

1569
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 2: football field kissing. Look at your fucking faces. Was I

1570
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 2: a mastermind and in control of my life the whole time? Yes?

1571
01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 2: Did I maybe not know it at times? Yes? But

1572
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 2: did you have any say? Does your say have any

1573
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 2: Did it affect why I decided to leave or go. No,

1574
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 2: it didn't. I was gonna be okay the whole time.

1575
01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:00,400
Speaker 2: Stop your meddling. And now look at you, you all

1576
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 2: eat crow motherfuckers, because you were judging my judgment. You

1577
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:07,719
Speaker 2: know which I think could be a tailor swift lyric.

1578
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 2: You were judging my judgment, and my judgment is spot

1579
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:12,680
Speaker 2: on because look who I'm with. Now, Look who I'm with.

1580
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 1: Now.

1581
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 2: Know everyone, even the biggest naysayers and the saboteurs and

1582
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 2: the town halls, are all agreeing that this is just

1583
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 2: a perfect partnership. Everyone's rooting for Travis and Taylor. And

1584
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 2: boy did she turn someone that no one was rooting

1585
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 2: for into someone that everyone is. And guess what, you

1586
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 2: can't come to the wedding. You're not invited because you

1587
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 2: didn't trust me before. You're not a real friend. And no,

1588
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:36,640
Speaker 2: you can't come to my wedding. Get out of it.

1589
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 2: You're not You're not gonna be invited. Her telling us

1590
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 2: we can't come to the wedding bold and I like it.

1591
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 2: I like it. I shouldn't be at your I should

1592
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 2: be at your wedding because I believed in you all along.

1593
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,720
Speaker 2: But of course I don't feel entitled to go to

1594
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 2: your wedding, and there are some things that now you

1595
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:54,799
Speaker 2: don't get to. You don't get to. Now, just celebrate,

1596
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 2: be on this parade, float with me of life, like yeah,

1597
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 2: you you doubt to me before you judge me when

1598
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:03,680
Speaker 2: and you only judge me because you wanted to cage me,

1599
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 2: and you're probably gonna end up caging me again. So

1600
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do this. This relationship will probably be judged

1601
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 2: in some way as well, which it has been, you know,

1602
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 2: like she can't trust.

1603
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:18,759
Speaker 1: Us, I feel you Love Story walked so but Daddy,

1604
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 1: I love him could run.

1605
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 2: That's what people are saying. And I didn't make the connection,

1606
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 2: and but it's undoubtedly there right, Like but daddy, my

1607
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:28,640
Speaker 2: dad is you know, she's.

1608
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 1: It's such a more mature version of it, Like Love

1609
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 1: Story feels like the literal teenage version of like you're

1610
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 1: not going to let me datum what? So I'm grounded

1611
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 1: And this one's like I'm having his.

1612
01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 2: Child like yes, oh yeah, that's a good point.

1613
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it still feels youthful.

1614
01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:46,679
Speaker 2: To me in some ways of like the but daddy,

1615
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 2: I love him, because it's such a thing you say

1616
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 2: if you're young, Like there's a lot of homages to

1617
01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 2: just teenage angst in this like young hormonal teenage girl angst.

1618
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 1: I also think it's like reflective of relationships in general,

1619
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 1: where you, regardless of your age, do you need to

1620
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 1: date the guy. You can't listen to other people who

1621
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 1: tell you you can't date him, You need to go

1622
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 1: through yourself.

1623
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:10,599
Speaker 2: It never works, It just makes you want them more.

1624
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 1: Yes.

1625
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 2: I like how she calls him me and my wild

1626
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 2: boy and all this wild joy because you look at

1627
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:17,160
Speaker 2: her and Travis, and it is he's a wild boy.

1628
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 2: And look at that he is such wild joy, such

1629
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 2: wild joy around him. He seems like such a happy person. Yes,

1630
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 2: And you know she says it about both of them.

1631
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 2: He was chaos, he was revelry. They both are chaos

1632
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:29,760
Speaker 2: and revelry, you know, like she said that about the

1633
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 2: first guy, and she said it about Travis too, And

1634
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:34,960
Speaker 2: I love I love that echo. He was chaos, he

1635
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:38,799
Speaker 2: was revelry. And then something very interesting I find musically

1636
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:41,640
Speaker 2: at the end, so we all know, the chorus is

1637
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:44,759
Speaker 2: like and I'm running with my dress on button screaming,

1638
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 2: but daddy, I love him. I'm having his baby. No

1639
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 2: I'm not, but you should see your faces. And then

1640
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 2: at the very end she's like, uh, she says, screaming,

1641
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 2: but daddy, I love him. I'm having his baby. No

1642
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 2: I'm not. When she does that, no I'm not and

1643
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 2: the music fucking cuts out is probably my favorite moment

1644
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 2: in Anny Taylors song ever, baby, No I'm not. But

1645
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:10,680
Speaker 2: uh no, sorry that was the wrong one. I'm I'm

1646
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 2: having his baby. I'm having his baby. No I'm not,

1647
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 2: but but but but you should say your faces. I

1648
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:20,360
Speaker 2: love how different she she makes that course a totally

1649
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:24,840
Speaker 2: different melody at the very end, it's brilliant and just

1650
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 2: everyone go back right now and revisit No I'm not,

1651
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:31,440
Speaker 2: and it's it reminds me of August. When the crescendo

1652
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 2: in August, that's like I have to pull it up.

1653
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:37,520
Speaker 2: But there's a moment in August where it's like boom

1654
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 2: and it like hits, and it's just like, uh, let

1655
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:41,680
Speaker 2: me pull it up, because I really want to make

1656
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 2: the connection of these two songs. August and this song

1657
01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 2: both make me feel like I'm flying and like I'm

1658
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 2: running in a field flying and back when we were

1659
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 2: still changing for the butter, that's not the part. But

1660
01:13:54,360 --> 01:14:00,640
Speaker 2: she goes, Uh you remember mine? Oh remember when she

1661
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 2: goes back when I was living for the hope of all,

1662
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 2: for the hope, meet me behind the mall. And then

1663
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 2: it cuts out and it goes Remember when I pulled

1664
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:09,640
Speaker 2: up said get in the car and then cancel that canceled.

1665
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 2: That is the same kind of triumphant thing. That's like, no,

1666
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 2: I'm not boom. I love it. It is such a

1667
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 2: Tailor Swift signature, uh musical moment, and I'm obsessed. I'm

1668
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:23,720
Speaker 2: obsessed with this song. I fucking can't even take it.

1669
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 2: We are not gonna get through the whole album because

1670
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 2: I have to go. But let's just keep going as

1671
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:33,799
Speaker 2: until we run out and then we'll do a second partner. Okay.

1672
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 2: Next up is uh Fresh out of the Slammer.

1673
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 1: I love Fresh Out the Slammer.

1674
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 2: I really like it too. It's not one of my

1675
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 2: faves just yet, but I do like it, and I

1676
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 2: know that it's one that's gonna grow on me a lot.

1677
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:51,600
Speaker 2: Why what do you love about it?

1678
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 1: The rhythm Fresh out the Slammer? Like know who my

1679
01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 1: call first will be? Too? Like how like just slow

1680
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 1: it is? But then when the verse it picks up

1681
01:15:05,880 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 1: buta like, I just love it. I just love that.

1682
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:11,639
Speaker 1: You don't know what she's gonna say next the imagery

1683
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:13,560
Speaker 1: she's painting like another.

1684
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 2: Ye, another summer. Oh that that's ruling Donna. He don't

1685
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:23,599
Speaker 2: understand me. Oh, yes, you're right, Dinna, Donna, Donna. I

1686
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:24,679
Speaker 2: really like that verse.

1687
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 1: I also love the pre chorus where she's like giving

1688
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 1: us information and clues about why this relationship was so

1689
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 1: important because she was under the spell of someone else.

1690
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:38,680
Speaker 1: It's like a prison. She only gets one hour of

1691
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 1: sunlight a day, like prisoners can only leave for one

1692
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:43,759
Speaker 1: hour a day, Like she was handcuffed to that spell.

1693
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:45,680
Speaker 2: Oh, I thought she just got out of prison, Like

1694
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 2: she's not going back. I thought she was, Like she's

1695
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 2: not like taking a break on the prison yard. She's

1696
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 2: like out of the Slammer. She just got released.

1697
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's a metaphor for her. The Slammer is

1698
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 1: her previous relationship. Yeah.

1699
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 2: I like, so this is she's talking about getting out

1700
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 2: of Joe and then running to Maddie. Is this what

1701
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 2: we're talking about this one?

1702
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 1: Yes? But like I loved how she was Like when

1703
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 1: I was in prison, I only got one hour of sunshine,

1704
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:12,680
Speaker 1: Like I did my best in that relationship. I only

1705
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 1: got one hour of sunshine, like the positives would pop

1706
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:16,599
Speaker 1: up every once in a while.

1707
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 2: But oh I didn't see that for just one hour

1708
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 2: of sunshine, I didn't see that lyric. Yeah, okay, I

1709
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 2: got it. Oh yes, So while she's in the slammer,

1710
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 2: that's her life.

1711
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, years of labor locks and gray.

1712
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 2: And blue and fights and tunnels, handcuffed tunnels is very London.

1713
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 2: Handcuffed to the spell I was under for just one

1714
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,599
Speaker 2: hour of sunshine and that she's handcuffed to that bed

1715
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:37,719
Speaker 2: in that in the Fortnite video, years of labor locks

1716
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:39,599
Speaker 2: and ceilings in the shade of how he was feeling.

1717
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 2: Oh so he's a depressed guy.

1718
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 1: Yes, And I just love how like it's real. But

1719
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 1: the years of labor locks in I'm sorry. I'm not

1720
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 1: a good singer like you.

1721
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 2: No, I just loved I couldn't lot do that joke.

1722
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 2: I don't know why, but you are no bad thinger

1723
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 2: at all. I just wanted to make people up.

1724
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 1: No, I am like you're and you have a beautiful voice. No, no, no, no, no.

1725
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 2: No, no, I don't. I want to be clear. I

1726
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 2: never judge anyone's voice. Like I want everyone to sing

1727
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 2: any time, and you also are not off like you

1728
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,080
Speaker 2: have a good voice. So I'm not gonna say that myself.

1729
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:16,679
Speaker 2: But even if you weren't, I wouldn't care. Okay, but yeah,

1730
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 2: I'm this is starting to grow on me now that

1731
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 2: I'm looking at the lyrics with you and talking through it.

1732
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:22,839
Speaker 2: It's it's gonna be fun to revisit.

1733
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 1: Yes, I just love it because it's there, like from

1734
01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 1: so Long London and this pre chorus like we're getting

1735
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:34,559
Speaker 1: the reasons it's and it's not like dramatic, you you know,

1736
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 1: it's just sad. It's just like, well.

1737
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 2: What about this camera flashes, welcome bashes, get the matches,

1738
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 2: toss the ashes off the ledge. As I said in

1739
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 2: my letters, now that I know better, I will never

1740
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 2: lose my baby again. Okay, so they got back together.

1741
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 2: She's really gonna try this time. My friends tried, but

1742
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:51,599
Speaker 2: I wouldn't hear it. Watched me daily disappearing. Okay, it's

1743
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 2: getting bad again. For just one glimpse of his smile. Okay,

1744
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 2: he's depressed. All those nights he kept me going, swirled

1745
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:58,600
Speaker 2: you into all of my poems. All those nights he

1746
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 2: kept me going something's going on at night with him.

1747
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 2: We don't know what, but maybe they're talking, maybe they

1748
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:05,680
Speaker 2: something else. Uh swirled you into all my poems is

1749
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 2: one of my favorite lyrics of this album. Now we're

1750
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 2: at the starting line. I did my time. Starting line.

1751
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 2: Isn't that the name of the band that they listened

1752
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:14,519
Speaker 2: to with the Black Dog? Oh?

1753
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 1: Is it?

1754
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 2: Let me just go to check where are you black Dog?

1755
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 2: Because I think there's a band. Oh, my computer's being

1756
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 2: so slow. Black Dog? Here we go. Sorry, someone cut

1757
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 2: out this. Yeah, starting line. When someone plays the starting line, yeah,

1758
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 2: that's the band. My tour manager knows the people in

1759
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 2: the band, and he's like, oh my god, I know

1760
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 2: the guy who just like woke up to him being

1761
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 2: name checked in a Taylor's song, which is would be incredible.

1762
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:48,599
Speaker 2: Oh my god, my Google just crash. Okay, you know what,

1763
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 2: This is a perfect time to wrap this up because

1764
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 2: I have to go anyway. We are going to pick

1765
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 2: up where we left off. We will start, we'll finish

1766
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 2: the conversation about Fresh out the Slammer, and then we'll

1767
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 2: get to the rest of the album. Here with no

1768
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 2: Nora Hadidi. I hope you guys enjoyed this this is

1769
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 2: so fun for me, Nora, I hope you had fun.

1770
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely. I mean I'm just like processing emotions, so

1771
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 1: fun is like maybe not at the top of the list,

1772
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 1: but I'm trying to have fun. But just really like.

1773
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:18,240
Speaker 2: This isn't like this really, this is like kind of

1774
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 2: torturous for you, your tortured poet.

1775
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 1: I guess I am. I'm a tortured poet like.

1776
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 2: Mother because this is like I just said to my friend,

1777
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 2: I am like dating this album. Oh my god. This

1778
01:19:30,040 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 2: was a line I had the other night to Anya,

1779
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 2: like we are leaving one of the venues late at night,

1780
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 2: and I had this like overwhelming feeling. You know that

1781
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 2: feeling when you like are first crushing on someone and

1782
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 2: you like are waiting to get their text and like

1783
01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 2: you can't wait to get away from your life so

1784
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:46,479
Speaker 2: you can go like text them and just like be

1785
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:49,640
Speaker 2: wrapped up in that. Yeah, I was feeling like that.

1786
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:51,599
Speaker 2: I was like, why am I? Why am I feeling

1787
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 2: like I'm so I'm good to text a boy or

1788
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 2: some like like a new boy, you know, like I'm

1789
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:58,679
Speaker 2: in a relationship. We're not like texting like flirty all night.

1790
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 2: And and then I realized it was this album I

1791
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 2: was it was feeling like I got to get to

1792
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 2: go back into this like little fantasy world. It's been

1793
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 2: really fun for me. I'm sorry it's not been fun

1794
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:12,720
Speaker 2: for you. And it's like been emotional. But like, does

1795
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:16,120
Speaker 2: do you like feeling like you're obviously working through maybe

1796
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 2: a heartbreak of your own? Is this is it pulling

1797
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:20,640
Speaker 2: up feelings you don't didn't want to pull up? Or

1798
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 2: is it like does it feel good?

1799
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:25,879
Speaker 1: I feel like from my life, I'm just so connected

1800
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 1: to what she writes, Like I've been listening to her

1801
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 1: since I was nineteen, and I'm thirty four, so the

1802
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 1: emotional places I go to, like like I can access

1803
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 1: through herself. No, I'm a year older than her. I'm

1804
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:42,760
Speaker 1: eighty eight.

1805
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:44,200
Speaker 2: Oh that's great.

1806
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:46,639
Speaker 1: I'm thirty five. I keep telling people I'm thirty four.

1807
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 1: It's crazy because this is the third time it's happened

1808
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 1: this week. It's okay in denial about being thirty five.

1809
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, thirty five is great. Thirty five years older

1810
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 2: than her. It's it's like I wish even though I

1811
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 2: feel like we were born on the same day, you know, like,

1812
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 2: but that's you obviously. Yeah, that's what I wanted to

1813
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:04,880
Speaker 2: say about the Red when I was like saying, we've

1814
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 2: never got a message in a bottle, Like I'm kind

1815
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 2: of unclear about what was on Red and what wasn't,

1816
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 2: Like I kind of went through Red and speak now

1817
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:14,679
Speaker 2: and fearless with the re releases more than I did

1818
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 2: with them because they all came out before. I was

1819
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 2: a fan of Massive, you know, Swifty, So I sometimes

1820
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:23,280
Speaker 2: I'm unclear about the Yeah, I'm not a perfect Swifty

1821
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 2: by any means, but no one is. But yeah, that's

1822
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 2: that is. You've been through a lot with her, and

1823
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 2: yes there's a lot of empathy going on. But the

1824
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 2: good news is she's so fucking happy now.

1825
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so happy for her. She deserves it, so happy.

1826
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 1: And I guess I feel a bit guilty for like

1827
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 1: not understanding what she was really going through with Maddie,

1828
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 1: Like I just genuinely thought it was like a flaying

1829
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:53,320
Speaker 1: and that she ended things with him, Like I wish

1830
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 1: I was more empathetic to what she was going through honestly, how.

1831
01:21:57,479 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 2: I was, like I felt it. Oh, And someone else

1832
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 2: also called out and said, Nikki, remember when you said

1833
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 2: that there was a sadness to some of her like,

1834
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:05,559
Speaker 2: even though she hits all of her marks and she's

1835
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 2: perfect on stage, you could just send something you weren't wrong,

1836
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 2: like you weren't wrong, and oh yeah, I said it

1837
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:15,880
Speaker 2: on the podcast. I said a bunch like and I

1838
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 2: felt really bad saying that because I don't want to

1839
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 2: ever accuse her of like me sensing something that isn't

1840
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:22,440
Speaker 2: professional in what she's doing, or like she wasn't amazing,

1841
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:24,639
Speaker 2: or that show somehow wasn't as good because she wasn't

1842
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 2: I sense to sadness. That's not it at all, Like

1843
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:29,720
Speaker 2: she's always one hundred percent perfect. It was just I

1844
01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 2: sensed something, and I knew exactly what Maddie was exactly.

1845
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 2: I have had Maddie's I know. I was one hundred

1846
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:44,719
Speaker 2: percent for it, one hundred percent for maybe two on board.

1847
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:46,719
Speaker 2: I was so on board that Chris made a shirt

1848
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:49,080
Speaker 2: that said Team Mattie that he wore to the Chicago

1849
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 2: show in early July. It's a team Maddie on the back,

1850
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 2: because I had convinced him that, like everyone's so mad

1851
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 2: at her, but fuck them, let her do whatever she wants,

1852
01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:59,599
Speaker 2: and so it was hilarious. Now you can't wear that,

1853
01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:01,679
Speaker 2: even though it was really a funny shirt he made,

1854
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 2: but the front of it was really cool too. But

1855
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 2: uh yeah, so I've I've always been I just I.

1856
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 2: And you know again that that thing that we all

1857
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:15,720
Speaker 2: were like, what is she doing was a response to

1858
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 2: this thing we all were mourning the loss of too,

1859
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 2: Like her breaking up with Joe's hard on me as well.

1860
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:25,320
Speaker 1: Yes, because we've invested, like I said, reputation.

1861
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:28,679
Speaker 2: Love, like we were never gonna be okay with Matt,

1862
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 2: Like people were never gonna because he was just the

1863
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 2: next thing. And we're like, it's not Joe, it's like

1864
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:33,639
Speaker 2: chill out.

1865
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:37,679
Speaker 1: Also, like Maddie's like a public idiot, like he says

1866
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 1: things that can be like offensive and hurt, actually hurt

1867
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 1: people's feelings, but he's not aware, like and we're just

1868
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 1: used to her being so aware of her fans and

1869
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 1: a can can no share.

1870
01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:49,680
Speaker 2: What you shared with me about Maddie.

1871
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:54,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, wait when we were in Boston.

1872
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 2: No, didn't you say, were you the one that just

1873
01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:57,599
Speaker 2: told me that you were like getting kind of horny

1874
01:23:57,600 --> 01:23:58,599
Speaker 2: for him? Or you can see it?

1875
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Yes, I'm so embarrassed. I was so embarrassed.

1876
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:06,479
Speaker 2: Join the club I've been in that club for a while,

1877
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:09,920
Speaker 2: like a while, and I don't see why everyone isn't.

1878
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like, yeah.

1879
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 1: I only found out. I've never seen him on stage,

1880
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:16,760
Speaker 1: never heard his music. I saw this.

1881
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:18,920
Speaker 2: Oh his music was so good. I'm so into it.

1882
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 1: Yeah that's the thing. And I only found out about

1883
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:24,680
Speaker 1: him when it was like all the backlash from the

1884
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:27,360
Speaker 1: podcast he was doing. So I was like, not invested

1885
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 1: in this guy. And all I knew about him was

1886
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:32,759
Speaker 1: he was dating Queen Taylor, who nobody deserves and also

1887
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:35,400
Speaker 1: just like talking shit online. So I was like, who

1888
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 1: is this guy? But yesterday, like I told you, I

1889
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 1: got high and then I started watching his music and

1890
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 1: his like videos on YouTube and Instagram, and I was like,

1891
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:47,719
Speaker 1: this guy is hot, Like yes, this guy like good

1892
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 1: sing and his lyrics, he's he's Taylor.

1893
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:54,120
Speaker 2: He's like, there's a swift vibe. There's a lot of

1894
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 2: emotions going on, great lyrics, great vibes. Every song sounds different,

1895
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 2: they're a they're amazing. He's amazing. I get it. I

1896
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:04,559
Speaker 2: get it. And he's a flawed person. Obviously he hurt

1897
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:08,320
Speaker 2: our friend, but I think she would even still say

1898
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:10,679
Speaker 2: he's great at music. And I definitely think she would

1899
01:25:10,720 --> 01:25:13,120
Speaker 2: still agree that he's hot, like or there was a

1900
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 2: sexual appeal to him. She would not be mad at

1901
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:18,080
Speaker 2: us for agreeing with her. And we're saying that just supportively.

1902
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:21,599
Speaker 2: Yeah and so yeah, anyway, we have to end this.

1903
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:23,840
Speaker 2: I love everyone that listened and made it this far

1904
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:27,840
Speaker 2: in this over an hour and a half podcast. Thank

1905
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 2: you so much for listening, Nora, thank you for being here,

1906
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Speaker 2: and we'll see you next time on this swifty special

1907
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Speaker 2: edition of the Niki Laser Podcast. Swiftly out