1 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, luck and look, so 2 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: Michael Verie Show is on the air. 3 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: It's important when you follow news stories to put faces 4 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 2: to people, to understand who is affected by these sorts 5 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: of things. I heard from a number of family members 6 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:42,639 Speaker 2: of January sixth political prisoners who received a pardon, some 7 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: of whom have been released from prison where they were serving. 8 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 2: I mean, wow, some of whom will now no longer 9 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 2: be on parole, some of whom have served their time 10 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 2: and are out, but now their name is cleared. It's 11 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: important to understand who these people are in the fact 12 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: this has had on their lives, and why they were 13 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 2: where they were that day, and what really happened and 14 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 2: what happened to them since well. Channel thirteen, to their credit, 15 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: told the story of a marine from Cleveland, Texas named 16 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 2: Darryl Youngers who has been pardoned, and he's our guest. Welcome. 17 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 3: Thank you Michael for having me. Hi you doing this morning. 18 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 2: You have a great radio voice. I don't know what 19 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 2: your I don't know what your career do you know 20 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 2: what your career plans are? What are you doing these days? 21 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 3: For the last ten years, my primary labor has been roofing, contracting, 22 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 3: a lot of insurance work all around Houston, Central Texas 23 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 3: and other states as well. 24 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 2: Now are you bidding these jobs? Are you doing these jobs? 25 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: Are you running a crew? 26 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 3: Yeah? So my primary thing is I'm a lead producer, 27 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 3: so I go mostly door to door talk to homeowners, 28 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 3: especially in like storm damaged areas, hail and wind, tornadoes 29 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 3: and things. I meet with the homeowners, I kind of 30 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 3: tell them who we are who para texted is a company, 31 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 3: and then I do inspections. I put reports together, I 32 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 3: help them through like the insurance filing process. I meet 33 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 3: with adjusters when they come out to assist in their 34 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: inspection and make sure we catch everything. And then the 35 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 3: company does the production side. And then I usually supervise 36 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 3: the crews during labor and collect checks and write contracts. 37 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 2: Are you good at it? 38 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 3: Yes, sir. 39 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: Do you enjoy it? 40 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 3: I do most of the time. Yeah, It's slow, but 41 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: I do enjoy it. It put me to pay as well, yes, sir, 42 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 3: Thank you. 43 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 2: So let's start from the beginning. Where were you born. 44 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 3: I was born in Conroe, Texas, but I grew up 45 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 3: in Splendora, a Cleveland address, but I went to school 46 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 3: in Splendora. 47 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: And you graduated from Flandora High School. Yes, sir, because 48 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 2: I think you're about thirty eight, thirty nine, is that right? 49 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 3: Thirty five? 50 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 2: Thirty five? Okay, so I saw thirty four in an 51 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 2: article I read. I thought that was four years. Okay, 52 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: so thirty four, So seventeen years ago you were, so 53 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: you came out in about. 54 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 3: Eight, that's exactly right. 55 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 2: Did you play ball at Splendora? 56 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 3: I did. Yeah, I played outside linebacker. Were Unio our 57 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 3: best season? I was good. Yeah that wasn't great all county, 58 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 3: but I was I was good. Yeah, I was a 59 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 3: I was a prime player on the defense. And we 60 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 3: went undefeated twice that year. Oh wow, my two seasons. 61 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 3: So I know you were in our district. 62 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, go ahead, Yeah, go ahead, I'm sorry. 63 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 3: Oh no, you're good. Yeah, we we just we went 64 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 3: underfeed in our district twice those years. It was a 65 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 3: really good time and then but we got tough, tough 66 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 3: playoffs in our in our division. 67 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 2: Who did move to. 68 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 3: Junior year was Sylvie. 69 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: Uh. 70 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 3: They had a really good team, really close game. And 71 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 3: then my senior year we played Jasper and I think 72 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 3: Jeffer probably had four or five people already signed to 73 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 3: D one school and we get absolutely demolished. I thought 74 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 3: we were playing a college team. 75 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,839 Speaker 2: Jasper was a rival of Western Start, which is where 76 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: I started and then moved out of. But Jasper's had 77 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 2: has had incredible players for a very very long time. 78 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:21,119 Speaker 2: So you went straight into the Marine Remembers start. Yeah, 79 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 2: I know you were in the Marines from eight to twelve. 80 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 2: So you went straight into the Marines from graduation. 81 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 3: That's great. Yeah, I took the summer off, but I 82 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 3: enlisted before I graduated. 83 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: Why did you go into the Marines. 84 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 3: And then I took off in Doltoga's You know, I 85 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 3: was actually signed. I was on my way to college. 86 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 3: I was going to go to UT San Antonio. I 87 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 3: was already enrolled. I was planning on switching over to 88 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 3: Austin my sophomore year. They had a program for me 89 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 3: to you know, I was going to transfer to Austin, 90 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 3: and I got a phone call from a Marine Corps 91 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: recruiter just out of the blue for whatever reason. And 92 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: honestly feel with Anybouther branch I probably would have just said, 93 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 3: you know, I've already got my planned. But I had 94 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 3: to watch some old history documentaries specifically about the Vietnam War, 95 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 3: and I really I really got inspired by what I 96 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 3: saw about the particularly the sniper program in Vietnam. So 97 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 3: the Marine Corps just had kind of a special you know, 98 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 3: they just had a different air about him in my 99 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 3: mind from what I'd seen. And so when the Marine 100 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 3: Corps called, I said, you know what, I'm going to 101 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 3: give you the time of day. I met with him, 102 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: went and got lunch with the recruiter, went to the office. 103 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 3: He kind of, you know, gave me the whole pitch 104 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 3: for the Marine Corps and kind of just he really 105 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 3: easily sold me on it. You know, I felt like, 106 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 3: I can go to college anytime, but you know, the 107 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 3: Marine Corps got a time limit on it, so let's 108 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 3: go do this and you know see how that goes. 109 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 3: And one of the better decisions I've ever made. 110 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 2: How long from Pendleton to when you arrived in Afghanistan? 111 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 3: I arrived in Afghanistan. So I went through boot camp 112 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 3: from August to November in two thousand and eight, and 113 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,239 Speaker 3: I shipped out to Afghanistan and I believe October October 114 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 3: November two than ten, and I was there until early 115 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 3: twenty eleven. 116 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 2: And what were you doing during the interviewing intervening two 117 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 2: years I was. 118 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: We had about eight months worth of schooling. I had 119 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 3: combat training after a booth camp, and then I went 120 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 3: to Pensacola, Florida, and also Cherry Point, North Carolina for 121 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 3: aviation training schools our Aviation Ordnance Training schools, and then 122 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 3: I got stationed in San Diego, which is the Sandy Miramar. 123 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 3: San Diego is the best station in the country. So 124 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 3: I got super blessed to be there and I did 125 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 3: my job. We mostly supported training operations out of out 126 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 3: of Miramar, so we did bomb build ups and delivered 127 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 3: over to the flight line so that they could go 128 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 3: drop them in the desert and train. And we did 129 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 3: the same thing in Afghanistan, just with mostly a lot 130 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 3: of ammunition. 131 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 2: I have a good friend who I've known since he 132 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 2: was a little kid and watched him grow up and 133 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: went in the Marines, went to Afghanistan, went to went 134 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 2: to I rock in Afghanistan, and he's a recruiter now 135 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: named David Burton in Katie and he was stationed where 136 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: you were in San Diego, and he loved it. I mean, 137 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 2: we were worried he wouldn't come back to Houston. Fortunately 138 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 2: he's very close to his mother, but we learned to 139 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,679 Speaker 2: back it. But boy, he loved it there, absolutely loved 140 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: it there. So you arrived in Afghanistan and served how 141 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: long there? 142 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 3: Right around five months? Usually it's a six month deployment. 143 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,679 Speaker 3: But our plane was actually overbooked by a handful of Marines, 144 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 3: so we stayed home for an extra month and then 145 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 3: caught the next. 146 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 2: One out And that brought you another month before you 147 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 2: were there, that's right. 148 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, that bought me a month of litting out of 149 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 3: a backpack because all my stuff was in storage already. 150 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 3: Oh but it was a good time anyway. 151 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: Oh wow, Okay, I had to bunk. 152 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 3: Up with a buddy of mine, so we had a 153 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 3: good time anyway. I was kind of on my own 154 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 3: program for a month, all. 155 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 2: Right, hang with me. Daryl Youngers is our guest Marine 156 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 2: Afghanistan veteran and now a pardoned J six political prisoner. 157 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: He'll tell that story coming up. 158 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 4: Tracy Bird not dip my hand to the keeper the star. 159 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 3: And disolved. 160 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 2: Faral. 161 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 5: Youngers was honorably discharged as a courtel in the United 162 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 5: States Marine Corps in twenty twelve, after having served in Afghanistan. 163 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 5: He ended up on January sixth in the Capitol, and 164 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 5: he ended up becoming a political prisoner of the left 165 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 5: in an attempt to destroy Donald Trump. President Trump has 166 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 5: now pardoned him in another fifteen hundred people, and we're 167 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 5: talking about that experience that is still very fresh. Tell 168 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 5: me what you did in Afghanistan zero. 169 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 3: So I was stationed at Kandahar. It was our biggest 170 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 3: airfield in the country and just outside of like Kandahar City. 171 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 3: And I again, the best what I explained it is, 172 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 3: I had have a glorified like bomb mechanic because most 173 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 3: of what we did was we asseingled bombodies. So we'd 174 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 3: get a big concrete explosive bombody, It's like a giant 175 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 3: concrete bullet, and then we would add fins and fuses 176 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 3: and guidance systems and all of that stuff that all 177 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 3: got bolted on, and then we would drive it, drop 178 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 3: it off at the flight line, and then we'd have 179 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 3: a different crew take them and actually mount them on 180 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 3: the planes, and then they would go flood missions round 181 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 3: mostly southern Afghanistan. 182 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 2: And when you came home in twelve how hard was 183 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 2: it for you to readjust to when you were discharged. 184 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:57,599 Speaker 2: How hard was it for you to reintegrate into civilian society. 185 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 3: You know, I didn't notice any difficulty when I first 186 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 3: got back. But the one thing that actually had stuck 187 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 3: with me for a really long time and that still 188 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 3: shows up now, is I had insomnia a lot. 189 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 2: And when we were there, we. 190 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 3: Used to get a lot of rocket attacks. We called 191 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 3: them my idea for indirect fire, and probably two or 192 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 3: three times a week for the first couple of weeks 193 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 3: we were there, maybe the first month or two, we 194 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 3: would get just rockets would hit the base somewhere. Most 195 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 3: of the time they weren't close, but you would hear 196 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 3: a little boom in the distance and alarms would go off. 197 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 3: You got to go outside, go into a bunker, check 198 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 3: in and stuff. And they would always come right around 199 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 3: six o'clock when the sun was setting, which is when 200 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 3: I was supposed to be asleep for three or four hours, 201 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 3: and I would get woke up, and it would kind 202 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 3: of mess my sleep up because I'd go to work 203 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,599 Speaker 3: at midnight to noon every day. And after two or 204 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 3: three times, I just started staying awake on purpose, and 205 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 3: like at seven o'clock, if we didn't get hit, we 206 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 3: weren't going to get hit. I could get a couple 207 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 3: of solid hours without being interrupted, and then one got 208 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 3: real close one day, maybe maybe fifty yards away across 209 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 3: the street and actually hit our laundry room, and that 210 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 3: like rattled the world. That one really scared me. Kind 211 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 3: of hit the ground like fetal position, like covered up 212 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 3: real quick. I thought the building got hit, but luckily 213 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 3: it didn't. But from there I kind of had like 214 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 3: a neural association to laying down in bed at night 215 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 3: and staying wide awake for a couple of hours, and 216 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 3: that didn't go away at all for probably four years. 217 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 3: I came back to the States and I would stay 218 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 3: up at night. Didn't know why. I you know, medication 219 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 3: didn't do anything. I would just I would be wide 220 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 3: awake as soon as my head's a pillow. It's kind 221 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 3: of subsided. But that was the biggest thing other than that. Fortunately, 222 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 3: I mean, Kandahar kind of barely felt like a deployment 223 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 3: because of the base was was pretty well maintained and 224 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 3: you had a lot of creature comforts. A lot of 225 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 3: the guys that have to go out into fobs and 226 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 3: on patrols don't get a lot of that, so I'm 227 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 3: fortunate for that, so coming back, I didn't have a 228 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 3: whole lot of difficulty reintegrating into regular lie for a 229 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 3: tool or anything else. 230 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 2: To be honest, So tell me about January sixth, how 231 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 2: you ended up in Washington, d C. How you ended 232 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 2: up at two fifty four, twenty four. I forget the 233 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 2: time that that you're in the Capitol with with Tienny 234 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 2: and and those guys won't be through that process. 235 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. So, I mean, it really started when when COVID hit, 236 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 3: like whenever they started hitting the news, I started watching 237 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 3: the news. But then I started kind of looking into 238 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 3: the CDC numbers and stuff and just got it in 239 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 3: my head that, Okay, we're being like to a lot. 240 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 3: And before that, I hadn't paid any attention to media 241 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 3: for probably four years. But that got me interested again. 242 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 3: And then I started seeing the outlets that were actually 243 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 3: what I felt, being honest about what was going on, 244 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 3: tended to be conservative outlets. I didn't I wasn't politically 245 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 3: involved really at all three, four, four or five years ago, 246 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 3: but I started hearing those outlets, and then I started 247 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 3: hearing more about Donald Trump and like the other side 248 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: of the story for Donald Trump, not like the mainstream 249 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 3: nonsense that's been dispuwed for eight years now. And on 250 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 3: one of the shows I've heard. 251 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: There a hold on, hold on that Trump sody, You'm 252 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 2: going to have a rally, and there a hold on, 253 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 2: hold on, I got a bad single on you. I 254 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 2: don't know what just happened. Did you move or something? 255 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 3: Okay, there we go, Ye, I moved ten feet. I'm 256 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 3: going to walk right back. Let me know. It was 257 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 3: just better. That's perfect, go ahead, all right, I'm not 258 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 3: going to move again. But yeah, I just happened to 259 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 3: hear that, you know, he was announcing that he was 260 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 3: having some kind of rally and that he was contesting 261 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 3: the election. And I'd never been to anything political, but 262 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 3: I thought I already had a road trip planned for 263 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 3: that time of year, around New Year's in early January 264 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 3: to visit family in the middle of the country. And 265 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 3: I said, you know what, I'm just going to go 266 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 3: and see what that's all about. Maybe it'll be a 267 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 3: big historic moment, who knows, but why not, let's go 268 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 3: check it out. And so I road tripped, took a 269 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 3: solo road trip, visiting some friends between here in DC. 270 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 3: I still live in the Houston area, and I showed 271 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 3: up that morning, walked walked up, met a couple of 272 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 3: people on the street, ended up spending time with those 273 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 3: who throughout the day. One of them actually got charged 274 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 3: along with me for being inside the building. Went to 275 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 3: listen to the speech. We were never able to get 276 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 3: close enough because there was so many people to actually 277 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 3: hear anything. But once that, once the speech completed, everybody 278 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 3: started kind of moving towards the Capitol Building, which is 279 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 3: probably a good half a mile away from where the 280 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 3: speech happens. Anything you want to touch on about that, 281 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 3: or go straight to kind of how I ended up 282 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 3: in the building. 283 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: Whatever you however you want to tell. 284 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 3: It, sure, okay. So as we're walking from from close 285 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 3: to the Washington Monument towards the Capitol Building, everything's peaceful, 286 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 3: big crowds of people, really good vibe, nobody nothing amiss whatsoever. 287 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 3: And I wasn't aware of anything really expected that day. 288 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 3: But as we got closer, we started being able to 289 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 3: hear pops like in the distance, pretty rapid, like regular 290 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 3: pops every couple of seconds. And at first I even 291 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 3: have a video of myself talking about it. I thought 292 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 3: it was like a ceremonial cannon was being tested or something, 293 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 3: because there was just no sign of anything going anything wrong. 294 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 3: We got close to the building, there was you could 295 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 3: that there had been some small temporary fences that had 296 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 3: been in place, but there was no security on the 297 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 3: grounds anymore, just a crowd that pretty much went right 298 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 3: up to the edge of the Capitol building. And we 299 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 3: just stood around in the crowd, maybe one hundred yards 300 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 3: away for thirty minutes or so. Then we heard over 301 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 3: the news that they were going on recess for the 302 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 3: second or third time. So the people that I met 303 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 3: that day, they say, hey, man, we're going to go 304 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 3: back to the hotel. You want to come warm up, 305 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 3: maybe grab some food. We'll come back whenever they come 306 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 3: back into session. We say sure. So we started crossing 307 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 3: the street towards downtown off of the grounds, and as 308 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 3: we crossed the intersection, there was a bought a police 309 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 3: set up and the roads were blocked and I heard 310 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 3: over a police scanner fire in the hole. And we're 311 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 3: still hearing these pops and these booms. And when I 312 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 3: heard that, it is like everything kind of my whole 313 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 3: perception changed. I'm like, wait a minute, so they're they're 314 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 3: throwing grenades or they're using gas. They're doing something to 315 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 3: be saying fire in the. 316 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 2: Hole and hold right there. Daryl Jungers is our guests. 317 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 2: He's been pardoned by President Trump as a January sixth 318 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 2: political prisoner. Please clap, please, police clab. The United States 319 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: Marine Darryl Youngers served in Afghanistan for five months, left 320 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 2: came home north of Houston to Cleveland, where he works 321 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 2: as a roofing contractor. He ended up on January sixth 322 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: inside the Capitol. Darryl, I'll let you take it from there, 323 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 2: my man. I'd like to wrap what happened there and 324 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 2: move to June twenty ninth, twenty twenty one. So six 325 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 2: months later, five months, just six months later, when you're arrested, 326 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 2: How they arrested you? And did you have any idea 327 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 2: that that was going to happen. 328 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, So after the fact, as soon as I saw 329 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 3: the news the way the news was reporting that evening, 330 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 3: calling an insurrection, calling it a coup conquital terrorist, I 331 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 3: got real, real nervous, real quick, because I'm fairly familiar 332 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 3: with how we treat terrorists, and it also wasn't consistent 333 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 3: with what I saw on the ground. But the following 334 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,959 Speaker 3: day we started seeing news reports and videos coming out 335 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 3: of people getting drug out of the airport by the FBI. 336 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 3: I like people getting arrested as soon as they landed 337 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 3: back in their home city. 338 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 2: So we're losing you again. We're losing you again. Are 339 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 2: you moving around? Can you stay real still for me? 340 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? Okay, there were didn't move that time of let 341 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 3: me know if that's better. Okay, it may just be 342 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 3: coming in and out with the weather. So yeah, I 343 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 3: was very clear that sooner or later I was going 344 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 3: to get arrested. It was just a matter of time. 345 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,959 Speaker 3: And since I didn't do anything real, didn't do anything dangerous, crazy, 346 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 3: you know, violent inside the capitol, I figured I might 347 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 3: not be a priority. But by June, like you said, 348 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 3: I actually discussed it with my mom a few times, like, 349 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 3: sooner or later, they're going to show up and just 350 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 3: you know, be aware of that. But they were. They 351 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 3: were a lot more gentle with with my case than 352 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 3: a lot that I've heard about. I actually wasn't home. 353 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 3: They came to my mom's house. It's my home of record, 354 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,719 Speaker 3: and I was house sitting with somebody with my wife 355 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 3: that day, and so they showed up at her house 356 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 3: at about six am, about maybe fourteen or fifteen officers 357 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 3: us Marshall's FBI HPD Local PD and opened the door 358 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 3: walk through ates. 359 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 2: Later, they called me. 360 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 3: I picked up the phone and they said it was 361 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 3: the FBI. We're looking for Daryl Youngers. And I'm like, okay, 362 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 3: here I am. What do you want to do And 363 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 3: they're like, well, we need to take you in today 364 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 3: so we can get you process. They told me I 365 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 3: wouldn't be held overnight, and there wasn't going to jail, 366 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 3: there was no request for that. So we ended up 367 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 3: meeting in somewhere in northwest Houston at a Walmart parking lot. 368 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 3: I brought my vehicle a couple of items that I 369 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 3: was wearing that day that they were looking for, and they, 370 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 3: you know, they cuffed me, the red met rights whatever, 371 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 3: took my phone, took my computer a couple of other 372 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 3: things out of the vehicle, and they took me into 373 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 3: the Federal whatever processing center in Houston, turned me over 374 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 3: to Marshalls, who were already apparently wondering why we're still 375 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 3: arresting people for January sixth. They made a comment to 376 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 3: the effect and they were great. They processed me, got 377 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 3: my information, fingerprints. I sat in a holding cell for 378 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 3: maybe six or seven hours that day, went before a 379 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 3: judge with a couple other people, met with my attorneys 380 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 3: for the first time, and then as soon as my 381 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 3: mother was able to get all my firearms out of 382 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 3: the house, they were able to release me and I 383 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 3: got out right as they were walking everybody to the 384 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 3: jail next door for the night. So I just got 385 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 3: out in time not to spend. 386 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 2: The night in jail, and then what happened, So from there. 387 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 3: I got my po went through probably four or five 388 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 3: different parole officers for some reason, but and then it 389 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 3: probably took My sentencing didn't happen for almost another year, 390 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 3: so there was some zoos hearings. All my hearings were 391 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,239 Speaker 3: done through DC and via zoom, so lookily did enough 392 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 3: to tribal for any of that, just reviewing the charges, 393 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 3: making sure I understood everything. And then I was first 394 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 3: charged with three felonies and three misdemeanors interrupting Congress, entering, 395 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 3: remaining in a capitol building, disorderly conduct, parading, and pretty 396 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 3: quickly the prosecution dropped I think two of the felonies 397 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 3: and maybe one of the one of the misdemeanors, and then, 398 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 3: you know, I discussed with my attorney. We decided to 399 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 3: just kind of keep on sitting tight before we make 400 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 3: any decisions. And they finally offered me a plea deal 401 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 3: somewhere around December, and they pled me all the way 402 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 3: down to one misdemeanor account for parading in a capital building. 403 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 3: And I discussed with my attorney and we figured that's 404 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 3: as good as going to get. I didn't really have 405 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 3: any interest in going to court in in DC. I 406 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 3: wasn't going to get a good trial there anyway, and 407 00:20:57,960 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 3: it just it was as good I was gonna get. 408 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 3: So I took that deal, and fair enough, I was 409 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 3: inside a capitol building. I knew I wasn't supposed to 410 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 3: be there, so I didn't have any problems with that. 411 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 2: Your legal representation was that court appointed? Yes, sir? Did 412 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 2: you feel like they zealously advocated on your behalf? Did 413 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 2: they have a bunch of cases did they push you 414 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 2: to did you ever did you ever consider mounting a 415 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 2: defense and trying to win this thing? It? 416 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 3: But but since it took so long to get to me, 417 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 3: we had already had a number of case case studies, 418 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 3: essentially with previous cases that actually went to court, and 419 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 3: I was seeing I was able to see all the convictions, 420 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 3: I was able to see all the crimes. I was 421 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 3: able to see everything, you know, all the results, and 422 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 3: and it was, you know, it just it just didn't 423 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 3: look good. And understandably given the political leaning of Washington, DC, 424 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 3: it's extremely left and you know, everybody in the state 425 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 3: are in the city things that everybody was. 426 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 2: There was a TA by that point, so I just 427 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 2: knew there was no jury. 428 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 3: I might have could have done a judge trial, but 429 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 3: I also knew that it's a coin flip to find 430 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 3: out if you're going to get a reasonable judge, which 431 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 3: I was fortunate to have, or you know, I don't know, 432 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 3: maybe some sorrows back or just some hardcore left wing 433 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 3: judge that's gonna be throwing the book it no matter 434 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 3: who shows up from January sixth. So yeah, he didn't 435 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,879 Speaker 3: try to push me into anything. It was really my idea. 436 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 3: Like as soon as I heard that flee deal came across. 437 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 3: He didn't guide me really either way. I was like, 438 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 3: let's just let's take it. I got his advice, he 439 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 3: agreed with me, and he did well on his part. Fortunately, 440 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 3: there wasn't a whole lot of fighting to do because 441 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 3: we kind of just held held fat tight as the 442 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 3: prosecution was doing their thing, and they ended up giving 443 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 3: me as good a deal as I could have asked for. 444 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 3: So as soon as I came up, we went with it, 445 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 3: and I was happy with the work he did. 446 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 2: And that deal was probation. Did you I saw they 447 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 2: were trying to get time for you, but you didn't 448 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 2: actually have to serve time. Is that right? 449 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 3: That's correct. Yeah, So when it came down to it, 450 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 3: the sentencing wasn't part of the deal. That was always 451 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 3: going to be left on the judge. It was just 452 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 3: the charge that they were dropping everything else. And then 453 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 3: so my maximum was going to be six months, so 454 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 3: we looked into it. So the maximum for that particular 455 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 3: crime was six months, but that was that's an egregious 456 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 3: punishment for that anyway, and three months of probation was 457 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 3: the final decision. I know my prosecution was pushing for 458 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 3: one month in prison plus the probation period, but my 459 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 3: judge said that you can't get two punishments for one 460 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 3: crime in this situation, so we had to basically pick one, 461 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 3: and it was his opinion that I didn't. It wasn't 462 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 3: going to do anybody any good to have me in prison, 463 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 3: So he chose the the probation period, and I thought 464 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 3: about just taking the month and getting it over with, 465 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 3: but also didn't want to. I didn't want to, you know, 466 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,959 Speaker 3: push on his good graces or anything. So I was 467 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,959 Speaker 3: I was okay with that, And what was going on 468 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 3: in three months was our three years of prison. Of sorry, 469 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 3: three three years of probation was about the minimum that 470 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 3: anybody got for anything. And their their reasoning was that 471 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 3: they didn't want us to be able to go back 472 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 3: to d C for the next inauguration, so they made 473 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 3: sure that they gave me a date that was pushed 474 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 3: beyond January twenty this year because part of the probation 475 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 3: restriction is that I was I was barred from Washington, 476 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 3: d C. For the period of my probation. 477 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 6: Right all right, hold right there, Daryl Youngers, is there 478 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 6: one of those pardoned by President Trump? Fortunately was not 479 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 6: in prison when the parton came out. Some of these 480 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 6: guys were serving in prison when that came out. 481 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 2: Even out by the year out of fast it's the 482 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 2: Michael Barry's show. Daryl Youngers as our guests. He's a 483 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 2: marine veteran who served five months in Afghanistan, came home. 484 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 2: The roofing contractor lives north of Houston, a town called Cleveland. 485 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 2: Our Houston folks will know where that is, but beyond 486 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 2: will not that Cleveland is actually in Texas. The more 487 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 2: important one he plaied out. He got three years of probation, 488 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 2: did not have to serve prison time or even jail 489 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,479 Speaker 2: time for that matter, for being inside the capital on 490 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 2: January sixth. He's a political prisoner. Court appointed lawyer takes 491 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 2: the case and got him a pretty good deal all 492 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 2: things considered. Many people will say, well, why don't you 493 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 2: fight it? On principle, you don't understand what it's like. 494 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 2: The government has unlimited resources and they will bury you financially. 495 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 2: It's good to fight. Mary taly Boden has fought the 496 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 2: medical establishment and she will till the day she does, 497 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 2: and she doesn't care if it bankrupts her on pure principle. 498 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 2: But a lot of people just can't do that, Daryl. 499 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 2: When you hear references by the Liz Cheneys and Adam 500 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 2: Kinzinger's and the media that nine eleven, that January sixth, 501 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one was like nine to eleven. As a 502 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 2: marine who saw war and as a civilian who was 503 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 2: at the capitol on January sixth, what do you think 504 00:25:58,600 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 2: of that comparison. 505 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 3: I think that's that's that's that's it's it's an insult. 506 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 3: It's an insult to the entire country. It's an insult 507 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 3: to anybody who was impacted directly. We were lots of 508 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 3: their lives in nine to eleven. That's the most absurd, 509 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 3: most absurd thing. Yeah, that's that's it. It's just completely absurd. 510 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 3: I don't understand where they're coming up at, but uh, 511 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 3: you know, they want to say stuff that gets quick. 512 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 2: I've got about six minutes, GARYL. I would like you 513 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 2: to dispel any myths that come to mind of things 514 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 2: that just stick in your crawl when you see news 515 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 2: coverage or people tell you, hey, I heard this, or 516 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 2: you hear politicians these What are things about the date 517 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 2: January sixth? And what did it didn't happen that bother 518 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 2: you the most? 519 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 3: You know, the one the big narrative that change I 520 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 3: think has misled everybody, even a lot of conservatives. You know, 521 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 3: there's been a lot of noise made about how many 522 00:26:55,680 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 3: people attacked officers and and and basically every situation, and 523 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 3: I think that's wrong, right. I'm not super upset that 524 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 3: certain people that fought with officers or destroyed property got 525 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 3: on it, right, that's fair. And what most people haven't 526 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,959 Speaker 3: seen is the videos from the body cameras of the officers, 527 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 3: which you can find on Twitter. Go look up January 528 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 3: sixth bodycam footage. Look it up on maybe rumble, probably 529 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 3: not YouTube, and you'll see officers throwing stingball grenades that 530 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 3: launch little rubber balls or gas grenades into a crowd 531 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 3: that's mostly just literally just standing around, and they're throwing 532 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 3: them at random into hundreds and hundreds of people. Previous 533 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 3: to that, I haven't seen any footage of violence. It 534 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 3: seems like it started there. And if if you're in 535 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 3: a crowd full of people and somebody's throwing stingball grenades 536 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 3: and gas grenades or concussion grenades into the crowd literally 537 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 3: at random that people standing around waving flags, you know, 538 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 3: retaliation is not It's not that surprising. I'm not surprised 539 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:52,719 Speaker 3: that a lot of people were put in a situation 540 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 3: and maybe they felt. 541 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 2: Like they needed to do that. 542 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 3: I think people all of that number of ages involved. 543 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 2: I want to explore that there. I want to explore 544 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 2: that because but I have heard from the folks I've 545 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 2: talked to, most of them will not come on the 546 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 2: air with me. Is that there was an attempt to 547 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 2: incite you guys. There was an attempt to try to 548 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 2: create fear and drama, intention and violence to try to 549 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 2: get you guys to do something. And almost to a person, 550 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 2: it didn't happen, did you, since they were trying to 551 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 2: escalate this. 552 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 3: So from where I was when when when that was happening, 553 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 3: I was actually I wasn't in it. I wasn't actually 554 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 3: in that section of the crowd, like I said, I 555 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 3: was actually walking away and until I heard I actually 556 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 3: didn't until I heard the building was breached. It's when 557 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 3: I actually made my way to the Capitol building and 558 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 3: entered the Capitol honestly expecting to find like bodies on 559 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 3: the ground, because if the US Capital was if attacked 560 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 3: and infiltrated by a crowd of people, I was assuming 561 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 3: the security must have put up one hell of a fight, 562 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 3: and I thought that I might be triaging bodies or 563 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 3: pulling people out of gas, like I was expecting a 564 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 3: war zone. But what I found was a you know, 565 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 3: a rowdy line of people walking into a building and 566 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 3: almost no officers to be found at that point. But 567 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 3: for the video, and I've started to go back and 568 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 3: look at my footage from my day being there and 569 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 3: comparing it to the time stamps on some of the 570 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 3: body cameras, and so I can see that I was 571 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 3: hearing those grenades being thrown around. It's clear. And from 572 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 3: the time that I first got close to the Capitol, 573 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 3: there was no people on the balconies, there weren't people 574 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 3: on the stairs. But thirty minutes later people are in 575 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 3: the building and everything happening between that was all these 576 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 3: gas grenades. So yeah, it seems like there was a 577 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 3: solid effort. I'm convinced. I have no doubt in my 578 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 3: mind that there was a real effort, and I don't 579 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 3: blame the cops on the ground. My biggest thing about 580 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 3: this whole deal is that, at the very least, without 581 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 3: any conspiracy thought whatsoever, there was a massive failure in 582 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 3: security that day which created, at the very least created 583 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 3: the environment for something like this to happen. I tend 584 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 3: to think that was intentional, because you know, we've seen 585 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 3: attacks on Trump from every direction, and this was just 586 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 3: one more way. There's no lack of history of agent 587 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 3: provocateurs getting involved in protests causing violence. We saw it 588 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 3: all through TIS twenty with the VLM riots being infiltrated 589 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 3: with Antifa guys or informants or whatever it was, starting 590 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 3: violence and then letting it escalate into something really big. 591 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 3: And I don't think this is that different except for 592 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 3: the way that it was covered. The Whales covered was 593 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 3: very different. But absolutely I think there's a lot of incitement. 594 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 3: I don't see how it was necessary to start throwing 595 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 3: grenades into a crowd that was standing there, even if 596 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 3: they were on grass that they weren't supposed to be on, 597 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 3: there was still a piece at that point. Nobody was 598 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 3: going further than that until from what I can tell, 599 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 3: after the grenades started flying and paintballs like rubber paintballs 600 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 3: were being shot into people's faces, they were just standing still. 601 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 2: I'm processing. It's a lot to process. Why was this 602 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 2: part and important to you? 603 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 3: It really made a statement. I mean, the real statement 604 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 3: was made back in November when Donald Trump was re 605 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 3: elected with the popular vote shifting the entire country, right, 606 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 3: you know, that was a statement that was a mandate 607 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 3: that the country is set up with the way the 608 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 3: administration and really the way the state has been run 609 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 3: not just for the last four years but also the 610 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 3: previous twenty my entire life and and but there's been 611 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 3: a shift, a consciousness shift or a view shift across 612 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 3: the country where people are one not as susceptible as 613 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 3: they used to be to the nonsense that's spouted all 614 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 3: over media and social media and you know, directed by 615 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 3: the FBI on the internet. You know, like people have 616 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 3: seen that it's it's been exposed in whoever's in power 617 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 3: that doesn't want this to happen, has just been thrashing 618 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 3: and fighting against it. But like it or not, Donald 619 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 3: Trump's the president. So that was really the day that 620 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 3: was like that was that was the big relief. I 621 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 3: was excited. I was hoping that who's going to pard 622 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 3: and keep his word? And when he did, it's a 623 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 3: huge relief for me, more for the people who've been 624 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 3: in prison, because there's people who did less than I 625 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 3: did and ended up in prison somehow, right, So I'm 626 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 3: more concerned that those people are free. And that's off 627 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 3: and I got off, you know, eight months of probation. 628 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 3: That means that I get to go. I get to 629 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 3: stop having a babyfitter. I get to go. I can 630 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 3: I can carry a weapon again. Like there's little things 631 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 3: like that are going to make a big difference. I 632 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 3: can travel freely. I don't need permission. That's all really good, 633 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 3: but really an inciting that interesting in the sunny. 634 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 2: Are Darryl Jungers. Thank you for sharing your story and 635 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 2: thank you for your service to this country as a 636 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 2: United States Marine. I appreciate it very much. We will 637 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 2: be talking to more folks who have been pardoned as 638 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 2: political prisoners by President Trump in the coming days. Big 639 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 2: show this evening the President. As you know, with a 640 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 2: lot of things happening, I've put no pressure on us 641 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 2: to try to get all of it. We're not a 642 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,719 Speaker 2: news show, so we're not going to list off the 643 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 2: fifty five things they've done since Friday alone. But boy, 644 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 2: is this ever an exciting time, and in time we 645 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 2: will get to most, if not all of those. It is. 646 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 2: It is a very exciting time. It feels like you know, 647 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 2: with krimp the water hose, and all of a sudden 648 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 2: we've opened it and it is just spewing out goodness. 649 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 2: All over the fruited plains, in this wonderful country,