1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: M Today, we're going to Atlanta for one of my 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: favorite Housewives ever, Shari's defining moments In this Housewives episode, 3 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: Say throws herself an independence party, obviously to celebrate her divorce, 4 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: and gets into an absurdly ridiculous fight with her party planner. 5 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: This is the who Gonna check me? Boo get with 6 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: Pookie and them. Sharay is at her finest best in 7 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: this episode. This episode uncovers crazy spending, business flops, and 8 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: struggles for financial independence. So there is no better person 9 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: to join me on today's episode than money experts Susie Orman. 10 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: This is a ride, an adventure, and a lesson in finances. 11 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: This is a Housewives episode you don't have to feel 12 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: guilty about talking about. You'll enjoy yourself and get amazing 13 00:00:55,720 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: financial takeaway advice. Do you watch The Housewife overall? Are 14 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: you aware of who anybody is or you? This is 15 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: just the very first episode I watched was this one? 16 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: So do you have any idea who I am as 17 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: a person? I know all about you, your charity, your 18 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: TV show. I know everything about you. I watched you 19 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: when you're on Shark Tank. But about you as the 20 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: the Housewife, I don't know, I know your successes and 21 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: what you're proud of, not that you're not proud of 22 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: you and your work that you did with you that 23 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: those are the stuff that I love about you. Thank you. 24 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: I love that. I appreciate that. So it doesn't matter 25 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: that you've never watched The Housewife because I hadn't seen 26 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: these Atlanta episodes, which are vintage for a long time, 27 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: and I've recently been watching New York episodes around the 28 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: same time, and it's yard because the Atlanta episode don't 29 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: um age as well. I don't know if it's the 30 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: it's the production of them. They seem more dated than 31 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: the New York ones, and I don't know why, but 32 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: they see like you really can see the difference, and 33 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: obviously the technology that that's no one's fault. I just 34 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: think that the show seems so dated and when I 35 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: watch it and it's it's really surprising. I mean, what 36 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: did you think about just the way that the show 37 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: overall looks like the tech, the lack of hair, makeup, 38 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: like that sort of thing, because the shows now have 39 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: a glimmer that is very different than what this was. Well, 40 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: given that this was the very first housewife of any 41 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 1: rendition that I ever saw, and it actually got me 42 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: curious wanting to watch what happened to these women because 43 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: it was like I cared about them. I'm like, no, 44 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: this is just stupid. You are making the worst financial 45 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: moves I've ever seen, Like, because you always want to 46 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: root for somebody, you want them to be okay. You 47 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: don't want them just to be dumb right here that 48 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: you want to say no, if you do this, then 49 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: you can be more. You can really have more and 50 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 1: not hide behind all this stupid glamour that they think 51 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: it's glamor well, by the way, but that's the entire Housewives. 52 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: Like you should literally be a Housewives consultant because when 53 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: I explained to you that I know the money that 54 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: the people actually have and they roll way deeper than 55 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: I do. For those of you listening, we're talking about 56 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: the who Gonna Check Me Boo episode with say I'm 57 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: talking to Susie Orman has never ever watched The Housewives. 58 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: This particular franchise, UH section meaning Atlanta is the highest rated, 59 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: has always been maybe Beverly Hills as eclipse them, but 60 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: they've always been very high rated and they roll very 61 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: deep in the Bentley's and the rolls, rooices and the 62 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: houses which Susie are more in the suburbs are not 63 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: in Atlanta proper, so they are not expensive. Meaning there's 64 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: an eighteen thousand serfort house there that could be one 65 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: point something million dollars, where in New York City you 66 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: could have a two thousand servant department be ten million dollars. 67 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: So that's a lot of the all show and no 68 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: go of this the way this show looks. But we're 69 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: getting into Sharai. So when Susie says she was a 70 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: little bit of a mess, we're talking about Scherai moving 71 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: into her new house and a state of her divorce, 72 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: the foreclosure, the custody. Let's hear what you have to 73 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: say about all that, Suzi. Oh my god, where do 74 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: I start? So the first thing when you're introduced to Sharai, 75 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: she says this thing that people are intimidated by my success. 76 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: That's like her tagline. You're being introduced to all the women, 77 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: and I'm sitting there thinking, what success? Right? What success? 78 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: What are you talking about? Our people intimidated by your success? 79 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: Or are you Charai intimidated by your lack of success? Oh? Susie, 80 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: you have no idea. You're walking into something that's also 81 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: current now over a decade later, because right now, say, 82 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: I guess there's a line of clothing, but they found 83 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: out that it's actually stuff that she buys from sheen 84 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: some Asian company, or it looks exactly like she puts 85 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: her own label on. So it's still going on ten 86 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: years later about this fashion line that never sort of 87 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: showed up, and it's still going on right now. So 88 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: you're talking about something ten years ago that's current now, 89 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: So go ahead, keep going. Well, the thing is, and 90 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: the reason it's going to stay current is because they 91 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: think money is what shows independence. Money does this, and 92 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: you know, and I know that money is not the 93 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: bottom line of what makes somebody successful. You're not even 94 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: talking about money. It's even worse, Susie, because it's not money. 95 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: It's a car isn't money. A car could be leased 96 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: and you don't own it, and it's just shows. So 97 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: it's not money. I would never say somebody's intimidated by 98 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: my success, right because you probably wouldn't drive a five 99 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: undred dollar rose where sub either. No, because I still 100 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: have a car that's eleven years old. But you have money, 101 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: so so I'm just because you said money, so you 102 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: me and the material. I'd rather have money invested and 103 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: in the bank and growing for me than in a 104 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: depreciated asset. I am no desire to impress the person 105 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: next to me at a stop sign that I don't 106 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: even know right but to do that. But on broad 107 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: this is the land where Jersey Housewives Teresa paid for 108 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: all her furniture over a hundred thousand dollars in cash 109 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: in the beginning, and then she and her husband went 110 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: to jail for tax evasion a couple of years later. 111 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: So you're walking into a situation where I was cast 112 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: on the show in a studio apartment from furnished by 113 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: a Kia only because of my personality. I would never 114 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: be cast now because they will only cast people that 115 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: seem to have an aspirational, wealthy lifestyle. So it's a 116 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: circular reference and people have to keep showing, and a 117 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: lot of times it's all show no go foreclosures by grupcies, 118 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: you know, law cases where it's fraudulent. So this is 119 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: where you're walking in. So now, all right, so I'm 120 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: walking in. That's the first thing I noticed. Then the 121 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: next thing she says, I All I want out of 122 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: this divorce is seven figures. And I'm sitting there thinking 123 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: seven figures isn't gonna get you anything, Like why is 124 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: that the only thing number one that you want is 125 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: seven figures? And why is it that? What I would 126 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: want out of a divorce, Not that I know about that, 127 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: because I'm happily married. But what I would want out 128 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: of a divorce is my own independence, my own knowing 129 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: that I can do anything on my own that somebody 130 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: else doesn't need to hold me up. Money doesn't need 131 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: to hold me up. I can hold up the entire world. 132 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: That's what I would want out of a divorce. But 133 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: all Charai wants is seven figures. And what's so sad 134 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: in the end. I don't know she ever got it 135 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: or not. But this Bob person who she was married to, 136 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: he doesn't have a pot to pean, right, So you 137 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: can't just think, you can't just wish a wizard unicorn 138 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: is going to bring seven figures in. And you're right, 139 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: um in the sense like it's a Tina Turner thing. 140 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: She wanted her name, she wanted her independence. But even 141 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: in the land of intelligence, UM sure would want to 142 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: be free of debt to be free of this man. 143 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: He could pull her down to they're still married. When 144 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: you are married and getting divorced, you are liable for 145 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: part of whatever the hell they've got going on. So 146 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: you might just want Tina Turner style your goddamn name 147 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: and to have a clean slate. We can't wish for 148 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: unicorns to jump through the window if they're not coming 149 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: with this guy who has no money and is a deadbeat. Yeah, 150 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: so so that was it was obvious that he had 151 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: no money because who allows a house to go into 152 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: foreclosure with their own credit, with their own credit and 153 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: who is nineteen months behind on their child's support. So 154 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 1: what that says right there is that Sara can act 155 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: like she's a businesswoman, she can act like she knows 156 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: about money, But how do you act and pretend when 157 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: you don't even know that nobody is making the payments 158 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: on your home? Fact, nobody tell that's so true. How 159 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: are you a business person if your house goes into 160 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: foreclosure you can't. Then you're literally setting women back a 161 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: hundred fifty years saying that the man sees all the bills. 162 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: It's everything you talk about in your podcast. You have 163 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: to know your own ship, and you're saying, she's the 164 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 1: definition of a person who just like blindly listen to 165 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: a man about what was going on with the numbers. 166 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: Teresa blindly listen to a man and went to jail 167 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: for it, Like you know, we have to either we 168 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: can't play stupid and smart at the same time as 169 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: what you're saying, Yeah, so it's it's that was sad 170 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: to me, right because the court ordered that he was 171 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: to pay the mortgage. But how many men in the world, 172 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: and how could she not know that? Could she not 173 00:09:55,720 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: have real life friends that obviously the partner had screwed 174 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: them and they lost their home and they lost things, 175 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: and at this age, real life would have said to her, 176 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: the court ordered it, but I better check up on it, right, 177 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: She never once opened up nothing. And how do you 178 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: go nineteen months and not get money that you're owed 179 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: and just go, oh, it's okay, you're right. And that 180 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: would be helping women. That would be being on the 181 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: show and actually helping women instead of talking about all 182 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: the money you're gonna get and pretending you're savvy and 183 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 1: being vulnerable and telling the truth about your flaws. Then 184 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: you might be able to teach someone something because not 185 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: everyone knows that, but at least you would know what 186 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 1: you don't know, and then the audience. That's a good one. Okay. 187 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: Moving along to Kim, who had she's now married, has 188 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: multiple kids, which the psychic predicted she'd have more kids. 189 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: But she was in a relationship for all these beginning 190 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: episodes with a guy called Big Papa who was having 191 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: are only of dollars, who would do anything for her, 192 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 1: already did for her as he left her, right, he 193 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: left her, and but I think they might have shared 194 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: some real estate together. I don't know. She's another one 195 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: who likes to show this stuff in the suburbs of Atlanta. 196 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: So did you notice how many powers she had? She 197 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: drove in that one episode she had her big Bentley 198 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: convertable that she drove, and then she had when she 199 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: drove up to a party, she had a big white suv. 200 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: It was a Rench rovers right. And so here's one 201 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: woman already with two cars that total over four hundred 202 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: thousand dollars between the two of them. So the the 203 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: illusion of wealth there is nothing more than illusion, right. 204 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 1: She can't even she says she wants to open up 205 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: a wig business, but she doesn't need the patients to 206 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 1: sit through one class that maybe she could learn about 207 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: how do you open? How do you do that? How 208 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,559 Speaker 1: do you do you do right? So she was a 209 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: she was a loser from the second I saw her. 210 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: So we're seeing you're seeing a theme here of like 211 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: it's more important to to show other people that you 212 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 1: have I think it's a big problem with unhappiness in 213 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: the country. It's more important to show other people how 214 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: great your life is than for you to focus on 215 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: your life actually being great. That's a big thing, and 216 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:22,839 Speaker 1: that's a big thing in The Housewives. It is all 217 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: show and no go in many cases at all, crumbling 218 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:30,719 Speaker 1: down from many people. And even the decision and I'm 219 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: sorry I don't remember her name. The woman who was 220 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: married to the football place that Oakland Raiders and and 221 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: he got dismissed was let oh. And so here he is. 222 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: He doesn't have a job, they have one kid, and 223 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: now they're talking about having to when he doesn't have income. 224 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: It's like, who knows what's going to happen to him? 225 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 1: You could tell she doesn't really want to in this 226 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: one episode, well, I'm not sure my hands are full 227 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: with the kid. We are pready have, but yet she's 228 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: already been submissive and really giving up her power. I 229 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: have to tell you, Bethany, this episode was a lot 230 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: about financial abuse and how the women allowed themselves to 231 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: be in a situation where they were and maybe still are, 232 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: being financially abused. Obviously, Serai was abused by Bob. Don't 233 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: tell me that the only time that she saw that 234 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: he was irresponsible with money was after they got divorced. 235 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: And the idea of a rich man having having their 236 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: their side piece that can't mention who the rich man 237 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: is and he's supporting her and giving her that's financially 238 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: abusive too, is what you're saying. That's like toxic, right, 239 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: And so you can see that kind of through the 240 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: whole thing, that financial abuse is present. And what's fascinating 241 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: about Gerai is with this stupid independence party or that 242 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: she wants to show everybody she gets involved with another 243 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: abusive man. Anthony, your take is epic because no one's 244 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: ever said this before, and it's so obvious and it's 245 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: so perfect for you to be commenting, and not only 246 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 1: on this episode, but on this whole franchise and this 247 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: concept in this country about showing how much we have 248 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: and not even and doing so much talking and showing 249 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: without being educated at all. I mean, the other day 250 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: I called my business manager and I said, because I 251 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: know I've been making a decent amount of money on 252 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: certain things, but I also know I've been spending a 253 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: decent money on amount of money on certain things. And 254 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: I also know I'm not great at knowing every single detail. 255 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: So I know what I don't know um and I 256 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: will ask other people around me if there's something that 257 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: I don't know and and crowdsource then make my own decision. 258 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: But I called him not but I said, I know 259 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: you represent a lot of different clients, and based on 260 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: where I am, how am I spending like because I 261 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: remember when I first sold my business asking a business 262 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: manager if I could go buy a full price of 263 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: Lubaton back in Dallas. He's like, you just sold your Yes, 264 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: you can buy the bag. But I'm frugal in that way, 265 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: like I, So I said, he said, well, I have 266 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: people that make a lot of money that are very 267 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: cheap and spend nothing, and then I know people that 268 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: go crazy and spend way over there or over their skis, 269 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: and you're right in the middle. I said, that's fine, 270 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: as long as you know your own temperature of what 271 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: you want to be doing. Like I know what I have, 272 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: and I know what's with an s steg Is, and 273 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: and then I know that he's saying, I'm in the middle. 274 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not getting an A, but I'm not 275 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: getting an F. I'm getting a C in spending versus 276 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: what you make. And I at this one time in 277 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: my life, maybe okay with that. But you have to 278 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: know the temperature, I think is what you're saying. No 279 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: one even knows what the hell is going on behind 280 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: the scenes. It's not only the temperature of money, it's 281 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: the temperature of who you are and why you are 282 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: making the decisions you're making, you know. On the Women 283 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: in Money podcast, I focus more on the emotional side 284 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: of money than money it'sself. By the way, that's what 285 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: I money noise, the relationship to money, That's what I'm 286 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: talking about. The relationship you have with money. Money noise. 287 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: But the relationship you have with money is identical to 288 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: the relationship you have with yourself because money can't do 289 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: anything without you. So if you don't value who you are, 290 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: you will see money come in, go out. And it 291 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: will never stay. That's why I have this saying that 292 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: self worth equals net worth. Once you start making money 293 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: and you have money, if you don't have self worth 294 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: at that point, you will define yourself by the money 295 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: you're making versus you defining your money. I understand you're saying, 296 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: it's the dog the tailwagon. The dog you need to 297 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 1: be driving the program. You need to be in the 298 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: driver's scene, and the money is the passenger. I like it, okay, So, um, 299 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: I like it a lot. So say, in keeping with 300 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: this theme, and by the way, this particular episode focuses 301 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: on sure a lot. Another one might focus on someone else. 302 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: So we're talking a lot about Shurey who why do 303 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: happen to enjoy as a television character? Um? So, she's 304 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 1: doing this part and she believes her own myth, and 305 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: it's always bigger than the top. And she built this 306 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: house it never got bill called Chateau Chay, or maybe 307 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 1: it eventually got built, but it took years. And there's 308 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: always this outlandish stuff. So Queen of the Night, she's 309 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,959 Speaker 1: going to do a Queen of the Night party and 310 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: arrived by helicopter and be carried in by male models. 311 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: So so so, well, what do you think? Here's the 312 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: big reveal. There. She goes to this designer party planner 313 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: by the name of Anthony Right, and Anthony, like any 314 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: buddy who wants a client, smoothes her, brings her in, 315 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: gets her to sign up with him and another woman 316 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: and they're on TV and the and the company's on 317 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: TV at this time, meaning the company is good, make 318 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: wants to look good on t V. Got it right? 319 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: Then it turns out what Anthony wants to do is 320 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 1: not what to wants to do, and they get into 321 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: this huge fight. What that represents is Shara went from 322 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: one abusive relationship with Bob in the desire to throw 323 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: an independence party and led her directly to another abusive 324 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: relationship with Anthony, who wanted to control everything, and she 325 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: totally once again the mistakes she made with Bob repeated 326 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: with Anthony, and now he's screaming at her they have 327 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: to take him away. I don't know if she ever 328 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: got her party or not, but the mere fact that 329 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: that happened should show everybody watching how truly powerless Sharay is. 330 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: Because she needs to ask her hair dresser while she's 331 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: getting her hair done, what should I do. And it's 332 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: the hairdresser that says, you have to call him up 333 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: and show him that your boss. You have to show 334 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: him that you're running the party. She needed her hairdresser 335 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: to encourage her to do that. What kind of dying? Amazing? Like, 336 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: you're right, you're saying, she's saying, she's a successful business woman, 337 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: she's in charge, and now she's got her hairdresser telling 338 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,479 Speaker 1: her what to do with her abusive event planner. Do 339 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: you think the event planner was entirely wrong? And how 340 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: would you handle it if you were shredded? First of all, 341 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: I would have wanted to know what it was gonna cost. 342 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: They never once talked about what this party was going 343 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: to cost. I still don't understand where her money came 344 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: to buy the house or move into the house that 345 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 1: she moved into, and she's there in boxes and the 346 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 1: kids up moving everything. She didn't have professional movers do that, 347 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: number one, or she wouldn't have been moving. But but 348 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: I want to just skip back for one thing. She 349 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: said something that was key to every thing in this 350 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: one scene when she was in her house, she didn't 351 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: want her children to know what was going on. And 352 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: what's interesting about that she didn't want to tell them 353 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: that they didn't really have money, and that that that 354 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: that she didn't want them to know. For everybody watching 355 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: this and watching a program like that, if you think 356 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: your kids do not already know, I have a bridge 357 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: to sell you. Your kids know exactly every time you 358 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: fought with your husband. They know everything that's going on. 359 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: And you're allowing them and teaching them rather than teaching 360 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: them strength and independence, you are teaching them lies. You 361 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: are teaching them how to not stand in their truth. You, Charay, 362 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: are doing more damage to those kids by pretending to 363 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 1: be something you're not versus being honest with them and 364 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 1: showing what you can all be as a family. So amazing, 365 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:04,479 Speaker 1: that's so true. There's a way to do it. They 366 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: were old enough. But there's a time when my daughter 367 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: realized things were going on in my life and there 368 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: was a time and a way to discuss it. And 369 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: I see so many parents nothing in front of the kids, 370 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: and nothing in front of the kids, like that's not 371 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 1: necessarily great parenting. You know, if you at least know 372 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: what's going on, you can deal with it and you 373 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: can have a team to work on. It's it's so 374 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: funny because with custody things and with divorce things, there's 375 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: a way to speak to young children. But I had 376 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: to discuss certain things as my daughter in a very 377 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: realistic manner, and it was helpful. It was more evolved 378 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: because they're watching part of a picture and they're confused 379 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: because they only have a couple of the puzzle pieces. 380 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: So they're making up their own stories in their mind, 381 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 1: and they're expressing themselves in different ways at school. And 382 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: I think that that's really astute of you to say that, 383 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: and notice that I like that. That's very interesting. Only 384 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: you could make this an intelligent episode. Um so really, 385 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: only you could. So do you have you heard of 386 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: Nani in the world besides this episode? Needy Leak, she's 387 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: a character. She was sort of the breakout character of 388 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: this show. She's not in this episode that much. In 389 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: this is earlier on in the year. She's the one 390 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: who's the singer. She's no, that's Candy, Oh that's Candy. 391 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: Nini is the one. She's like Candy a lot. Well, 392 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: Candies is smart, but yes, we're gonna get into Candy. 393 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: But Nini was making like the sexual references with the 394 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: thousand dollars on the curtains and the champagne bottle, and 395 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: and Dwight comes over, and the one that where she 396 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: had the designer come over and they opened a champagne. Yes, 397 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: that was Nanie with the stylist right saying that you 398 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 1: spent fifteen thou dollars on drapes and now they need 399 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: to be longer. Yeah, that girl needs some style. That 400 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: girl needs some classes, because that's she's class. No, but 401 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: over the course of years, I don't know if she 402 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 1: got class by your definition, but she became more into 403 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: fashion and style and she changed her look a lot 404 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: over the years. Some of the house was get excited 405 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: that they're very successful and they call themselves rich. But 406 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: me and he was the first one to start with 407 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: like I'm rich, bitch on this show. And it's again, 408 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: you know, it's about how much money you Actually, I 409 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: can't see any wealth there with her. And it's even 410 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 1: to notice that that curtains should be fifteen inches longer 411 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 1: or whatever. It's like all I got from her in 412 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: the very brief because I paid more attention to Shara. Yeah, 413 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: you're right today, Yeah, it was that really, it just 414 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: there wasn't There was no there there and what I say, class. 415 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: What I mean is again, it's not how your place 416 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: is decorated. It's not even what you decorate your place with. 417 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: It's how you you make people feel when they're in 418 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: your place, so you can have a little It's so 419 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 1: she was like and just so caught up in everything. 420 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: She kind of bored me, so I just fast forward 421 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: it through her. Okay, fine, So back to Sheay's meeting though, 422 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: when she said, who go and check me boo? And 423 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: do you ever get lit and you want to let go? 424 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: I mean because I do sometimes once in a while 425 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: somebody needs to get slept. So in that case, I don't. 426 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you said he had to be taken out. 427 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: I think she did. She not win that round? Did she? 428 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: Who won that round? To that fight with him? I 429 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: think she went all in. I have to tell you, 430 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: I think she lost the round. You do and let 431 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: me hear why? Because I thought, who gonna check me boo? 432 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: Is a great line? Yeah? So those are great line 433 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: make great television. Yes, but let's not say nobody's watching 434 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,880 Speaker 1: it and it's just the two of them and nobody 435 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: ever sees that, okay happen. Let's do it all right now, 436 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: here she is paying good money to have her dream 437 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: in four or five days come true, and she hasn't 438 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: talked to the poet, has no idea if that's going 439 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: to happen or not. She's not going to get a helicopter. 440 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: And she what she really wanted by giving this party 441 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: more than all the flamboyants, believe it or not, is 442 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: she wanted to feel that she could do something and 443 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: she was in control because she has been out of 444 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: control dependent until this one party. And even though she 445 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: kept saying that this party is for everybody else to 446 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: see that you can survive after divorce and you can 447 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: do all of these things, this party was for her 448 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: right to show her that she could actually pull something 449 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 1: off that she was proud of. That makes me You 450 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 1: don't even know how the foreshadowing is though, because it 451 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 1: happens again later where she has a fashion show and 452 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: there are no fashions. It's called she by Say, but 453 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: she doesn't have the she by Say fashion. So it's 454 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: funny that Say is an interesting character because you are 455 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: presenting something that seems to become a theme for her 456 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: in like she wants to show that she can. Sonia 457 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: Sonya on New York As moments like this too. She 458 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: wants to show everybody that she can do it. And 459 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: we're all waiting and you're saying that it's not going 460 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: that great, so sorry, back to the meeting with them 461 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: and that. But but Bethany, who she really wants to 462 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: show is herself because when all the cameras are off 463 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: and everything and she's just by herself, she's broke. She's 464 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: living the lie to her kids. She's so angry at 465 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: her ex spouse because he had no money, didn't live 466 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: up to it, she had a move, she doesn't know 467 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: how she's gonna pay bills, and except for the fact 468 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: that she gets a paycheck from Housewives, other than that, 469 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: it's like, how is she going to do anything? And 470 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 1: if ever she's not on Housewives, she's screwed. Well, by 471 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: the way. That's by the way, let me tell you 472 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 1: about a circular reference. That's a big thing that happens 473 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: with Housewives. So people get that happened with Alex and Simon. 474 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: People get cast and the first season I made seven 475 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 1: thousand two and all for the whole season. But it 476 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: was something I took out in the contract. That's attribute. 477 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: That's the reason for my great success because I knew 478 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: what to cross out and get paid seven thousand to fifty. 479 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 1: But what happens is people this is it. They're gonna 480 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: be famous, and so they are going to spend and 481 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: the show is going to catch up with it, and 482 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna have these storylines in these businesses because they 483 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 1: need to have something to show the show to stay 484 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: on so the salary can keep up. And you see 485 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: this vicious cycle, and it's not that easy for people 486 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: like you know, Theresa goes through this whole thing, going 487 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: away to jail and stuff, and now she has a 488 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,959 Speaker 1: wealthy or a man who seems to be wealthy as 489 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: a husband, but she stayed on that show to hustle 490 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: for her kids because she went to jail and lost 491 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: all this income and her ex husband was a Doug divorce. 492 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: So it happens a lot of people that Erica Jane 493 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: the richest. How she looks so rich, her husband's a 494 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 1: big lawyer. All that gets in all that trouble. She's 495 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: got to stay on the show now to keep the 496 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: music going. So it becomes this vicious cycle, particularly with 497 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: how was I get on. I don't really have a 498 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: lot of money. I have to show that I have money. 499 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: But then I'm spending too much money to show that 500 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: I have money, so to show us to pay me 501 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: to keep up with the money that I'm sure do 502 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 1: you see, It's like it's like getting into debt. It's 503 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: housewives debt. It's housewives debt. So going back to who 504 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: won the argument, she lost the mission of the party. 505 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: She failed dramatically there. And it doesn't matter how tough 506 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 1: you talk, and do you win in a fight and 507 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: you know, lash out with each other. I mean, one 508 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: of the strongest things she's could have done is got up, 509 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: walked out, canceled the party and say screw you, sue 510 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: me for the check. Nice That that's power, that power, 511 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: and sending out a notice to everybody that Anthony is 512 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: the worst planning you know, party planner. He screwed this up. 513 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: You right him, but don't ever use him because I'm 514 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: out of here, right, that's right, Just saying that what 515 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: you just said is powerful. It's so true. Um, do 516 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: you believe in psychics because Kim goes to the psychic 517 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: and I want to know if you believe in psychics 518 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: or do you think it's a waste of money? Totally. 519 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: I believe in psychics, I believe in astrologers. I believe 520 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: in all of that. I love that. And by the way, 521 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: that guy correct that that woman predicted her and she 522 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: did have she did have more children, and she did 523 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: have and what she says she will have a boy, 524 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: Yeah she does. The audience at that time doesn't know that. 525 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: But now in real life of watching years later, that 526 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: that that psychic Rose told her her future. She left 527 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: Big Papa. But did she because Rose told her that 528 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: somehow planned for that to happen, not that it would 529 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: be a boy, but it might be a child. So 530 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: she was looking to have that happen because she had 531 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: so many kids. She was gonna have a boy. She 532 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: had four more kids since then or something great. So 533 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: it was like, was that whatever or not? But I 534 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: don't think it hurts it all. You have a belief 535 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: in somebody that has proven to you that they're a 536 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: great psychic, they're a great astrologer. You know, not everyone is. 537 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: Not everyone is a great money person. So you have 538 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: to know are they great at what they do? And 539 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: if they are, I use all the help I can 540 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: get in predicting the markets and whatever. You know, it 541 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: was about it. It was before It was December of 542 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: two thousand and nineteen, and I have been seeing astrologers 543 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: and things like that, and it all the stars came 544 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: up that in February of two thousand and twenty something 545 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: was going to happen that would change this world forever. 546 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: And I started to talk about it on the Women 547 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: in Money podcast and I started to warn everybody, I 548 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen. I just have this feeling. 549 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: Be careful for February of two thousand and twenty, which 550 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: is when the pandemic hit and the markets went all 551 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: the way down again. Using all my resources that I do. 552 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: They end when oil was down thirty dollars a barrel, 553 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: you had to pay people to take oil away. It 554 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: was like get into oil. Now's the time. And I 555 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: go on the podcast and I say, this may be 556 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: the stupidest thing I've ever said. I want all of 557 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: you to buy this specific exchange traded fund that's all 558 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: energy and oil went from twenty two up to almost ninety. 559 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: That's insane. Everybody get back in the market. Do not 560 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: sell here. This is a blip, right, Just stay And 561 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: everybody made a whole lot of money. So I use 562 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: everything I can, from technical to to you name it. 563 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: I take all the tools and I put them together 564 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: to tell the millions of people what I think they 565 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: should do. That's unbelievable, um, but believable. So Candy, you like? 566 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: Candy is talking about doing, um, a version of the 567 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: Vagina Monologues, an updated version. She's talking with Lisa, who 568 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: later gets let go from the show. Just so you know, 569 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: Candy has been on and still is on now, and 570 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: she's a successful musician who is frugal. And I think 571 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: she mentions that she doesn't need to show all the 572 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: bells and whistle. She has nice things, but she's probably 573 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: more you know in my philosophy where she buys. But 574 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: she knows she's she's good. So you liked Candy? Why 575 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,719 Speaker 1: did you like her? Because there were certain things that 576 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: she said, which was she was going to she wanted 577 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: to do it herself. She wanted to do this album herself. 578 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: She knew she had talent, she knew she made other people, 579 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: that she wrote music for a lot of my need 580 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: so she knew she was the real deal. And there 581 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: was something about her look that I liked her look. 582 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: I liked the simple haircut. I liked the even though 583 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: it was fashionable. I liked her clothes. I liked that 584 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: she was gonna go for it, but because she was 585 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 1: going to go for it, not because some beau or 586 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: Bob or whatever big Daddy was going to support her, 587 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: whether that ended up happening or not. I liked her 588 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: sense of independence and her sense of self worth. And 589 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: so even though she was in a relationship and was 590 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: talking about moving in with her daughter, you felt like 591 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: she had a strong sense of You feel like she 592 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: has a strong sense of self. She was the one 593 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: who had one daughter and was going to possibly marry 594 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,479 Speaker 1: somebody with six kids? Was that right? Is that? Who 595 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: is right? And her mother did not like that. Her 596 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: mother's tough and has judged a lot of the people 597 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,479 Speaker 1: she's been with, including the and she married and that woman. 598 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: The man that she was engaged to gets killed, Like 599 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 1: you can't believe this is real. Yes, he gets killed. 600 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,720 Speaker 1: It they're gonna park a lot. So she lost her fiance. 601 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: And so then does she have to mother all six kids? No, 602 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 1: she just has She has her daughter, and she ends 603 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:18,919 Speaker 1: up in a relationship with so much that she meets 604 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,280 Speaker 1: as a producer on the show, and then he becomes 605 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: talent on the show because now he's with her. Like, 606 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: sometimes the truth is weirder than the fix. I mean 607 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: this stuff that I'm talking to you about it watching 608 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: back is crazy to watch Candy telling her daughter about 609 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: this man that they're going to blend with and that 610 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: that man don't isn't but her daughter didn't want to blend. 611 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: The other thing I liked about Candy was the relationship, 612 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: at least on this one episode she had with her daughter, 613 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: talking not to her daughter so to speak, but to 614 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: have an equal relationship. And her daughter felt the ability 615 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 1: to be honest with her mother that she did not 616 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: like this, She was not happy about it. So why 617 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: that made me like Candy is that that says to me, 618 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: that's a mother who raised a daughter. And she was 619 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: so fascinating when she said, my mother was a single mother, 620 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: my grandmother was a single mother, my dad DA and 621 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: now I was a single mother, right, isn't I think 622 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: that was her who said that, And she raised her 623 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: daughter and you could tell her daughter was strong, yes, 624 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 1: And did her daughter get that strength from she got 625 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: that strength from her mother at that age. And that 626 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: made me like her. I didn't like, however, when her 627 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: daughter was more interested and possibly watching TV in that 628 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: one little segment that she finally said, fine, watched TV 629 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: and leave when you could tell her daughter still wanted 630 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: to talk more to her about this, but Candy couldn't 631 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: deal with what her daughter was saying to her. Probably, 632 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: and then you're also where the cameras are there, so 633 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: you have always think about the fact that whatever her 634 00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: daughters saying, this is also early on in years that 635 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,280 Speaker 1: nobody knows how stuff is coming out of the oven 636 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: and how you're gonna be portrayed, and the daughters are 637 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: uncomfortable in his cameras in her house. So it's just 638 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: it's different, and it's funny. The shows back then had 639 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: a greater authenticity because people didn't have full hair and 640 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 1: makeup and glam squads, and they just wore with their 641 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: what you and I were wearing right now, like you're 642 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 1: you know, just just just s wear, like normal clothes. 643 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 1: Now it's costumes and like crowns, and it's it's clown like. 644 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: It's crazy people because it's meta and everyone's sort of 645 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: showing off because they know they're on television. Back then, 646 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: there were just some cameras and you were wearing a 647 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 1: sweater out of your closet because it was real. Back then, 648 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: you were doing real. So that's one of the things 649 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: that's different too. There was like a there's an authenticity 650 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,280 Speaker 1: to it that that I don't see as much anymore. 651 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,760 Speaker 1: People do miss that. Um and Candy. This is also 652 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 1: vintage housewives, and Candy is talking about she doesn't buy 653 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: jewelry and flashy items and she's focused on investing in 654 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: real estate. Don't forget, this is like in her thirties. 655 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: This isn't when everybody's like now in their fifties. This 656 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: is in her thirties, and she's already had a music 657 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,720 Speaker 1: career and had albums go I Guess, gold and platinum 658 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: and made money. And she's talking about investing in real estate. 659 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: So I knew you would like that. I did like that, 660 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 1: and I like that. She looked at her wall and 661 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 1: she had all her platinum albums and everything up there, 662 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: and she liked that, and that was a representation of 663 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: what she did. She displayed what she did. That's a 664 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: sense of self worth. So later at the party, when 665 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,279 Speaker 1: meaning you're not that interested in and Shari have a discussion, 666 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: Charai doesn't Shari say she did get a seven figure settlement. 667 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: Didn't she say that that did actually happen? Or no, 668 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: she said, she's asked the question did you get us? 669 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 1: Did you get your seven figures? And Shari says, the 670 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 1: judge awarded me it, but it's not in my bank 671 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,919 Speaker 1: account yet. Oh it's like saying child So he also 672 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: didn't pay nineteen months told whatever you said a child support? Oh? 673 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 1: So yes. And by the way, people need to realize 674 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: that just getting to court can take so long, and 675 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 1: getting a judge to do something is very different than 676 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: getting a judge to enforce something, because that's then the law. 677 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: The judge is not a cop. It's the legal system 678 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: is so challenging. So even if she was quote unquote awarded, 679 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: it's fiction until it gets into the bank account. And 680 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 1: did she ever get it? That's what I bet you 681 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,839 Speaker 1: she didn't. But that's a great question that will come up. 682 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: I will ask any money, No way she got any money. Um, 683 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: So it's funny. I don't know if kim zols Yek 684 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: still has a wig business, but it's interesting that she 685 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 1: wasn't interested in learning about the craft that it takes 686 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: to do that, to do to launch a wig business. 687 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: She didn't seem in. She wasn't interested in anything other 688 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: than somebody making her comfortable, rich and providing for her 689 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,720 Speaker 1: very interesting. She would say she was interested in. Yeah, 690 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 1: she might say that she's in instead of making her 691 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: own money, and she has had shows and stuff. But 692 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 1: as you know, just explain to everybody. You know what 693 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 1: people make on TV, and it's not like what people 694 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 1: make on Finance or Wall Street. And you know what 695 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,959 Speaker 1: it costs to live all these lives as people are living, 696 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: and you know what businesses are really making for the 697 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 1: people listening. Just because you're selling some handbags or selling 698 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: some wigs or selling some leggings, you have no idea 699 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,399 Speaker 1: how much work it takes to actually make any kind 700 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: of real money. For all of that, I sell everything, 701 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: I sell dressing, I sell apparel, I sell popcorn and 702 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: so many different things. It takes a long time to 703 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: really see real checks. And they're not like game changing, 704 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 1: life changing wrote range over SUV checks like they're not 705 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 1: over the course of years. Yes, I make a lot 706 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: of money in the aggregate altogether because I've been doing 707 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 1: it so long, But like selling handbags on the first year, 708 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 1: you're gonna make zero dollars a couple hundred dollars, Like, 709 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: if you're not gonna make a money and then you're 710 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: gonna hit a pandemic, or you're gonna hit inflation, you're 711 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,919 Speaker 1: gonna hit possibly a recession, then what are you going 712 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: to do? Exactly? It's not what I'm trying to convey 713 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 1: is that everybody thinks because housewives are wearing things with 714 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 1: jeez from head to toe and fendy and driving nice 715 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 1: cars that are least and in many cases borrowed. Because 716 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: I've seen that too. It's it's all show and no go. 717 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,399 Speaker 1: There's very little meat there with these these people, which 718 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 1: is why there's so much scandal, because people who are 719 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 1: drawn to be on these shows, most people who have 720 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 1: a lot of money wouldn't be on the show. I 721 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: was on the show and I had nothing, and I 722 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,680 Speaker 1: left when I had something like because it's very hard 723 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 1: to justify exposing yourself to this when you don't need to. 724 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 1: What was interesting, Bethany as I learned it twice, I 725 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: was gonna be on Larry King, and that's when what's 726 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: his name took over for Larry I can't remember his 727 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:04,280 Speaker 1: name from Paris, huh and for some reason on that show. 728 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 1: When I was going there, I normally would wear a 729 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: gold Cart watch and then my airings that I haven't 730 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 1: changed in over thirty years, same pendant, right, if you 731 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: look at any book cover anything, same thing here. But 732 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: I used to have a fetish for watches. Don't ask 733 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: me why I was stupid. No, it's not stupid, by 734 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 1: the way, because their investments if you do it well, 735 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 1: which I have. But it's not the best thing to 736 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: invest in. Fine, it really isn't. But anyway, so I 737 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: had really liked a watch, I think Michael Cours that 738 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 1: was two hundred dollars. So I bought it and I 739 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: wore it that night to be on the show, and 740 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: Paris somehow started off this thing about how rich I was, 741 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 1: and like, like, how much is the watch you have 742 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,399 Speaker 1: on for instance, Susie Right, And I was able to say, 743 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: I'm two hundred dollars, why Piers right, because what does 744 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: that mean? It was? It was it was like he 745 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 1: wanted to catch me with my thirty dollar watch on. 746 00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 1: It was very interesting. And one last thing I was 747 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 1: had on the Susie Orman show Carson cress Leef, and 748 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:18,280 Speaker 1: he came on and I had on a seven hundred 749 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 1: dollar T shirt, uh one dollar blue jeans jacket. Everything 750 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 1: else I had on was very expensive. And the test 751 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 1: was Carson, what is the most expensive item that I have? 752 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 1: And he chose the hundred dollar jacket. He did not 753 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 1: choose the designer thing, and I just I went on 754 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 1: and got those things just for this show, right, And 755 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 1: that's when I learned you make a statement just by 756 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:58,520 Speaker 1: who you are, no matter what you wear. People think 757 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 1: it's expensive, well no, but even money, yes, But back 758 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 1: to relationships with money, I believe, strongly believe. I'm certain 759 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 1: that people who need to go to the window and 760 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: buy the most expensive thing, the whole outfit together with 761 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 1: which last creativity, but who need the logos like I 762 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 1: have high end stuff, a lot of it, but like 763 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,359 Speaker 1: who need the logos, who need everybody to know what 764 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: it is and who makes it, they're insecure. It's very insomuch. 765 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:31,279 Speaker 1: You think the jacket was on right now, it's hard 766 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,840 Speaker 1: to see it, but uh to something to fifty maybe 767 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 1: five dollars. I got it at the HS and discount store. 768 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 1: That's amazing. Well, I was a man. I bought seven 769 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 1: of them and it's my favorite jacket I wear all 770 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 1: the time. I spent bucks for seven jackets. You also 771 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 1: like that's part of like that's a deal making type 772 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 1: of person. My friend her owns the Mets. She has 773 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,920 Speaker 1: more money than anybody that I know, and she likes 774 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: the hunt. She said to me that she pitched the 775 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 1: person from seeing is that she would wear for a year. 776 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,759 Speaker 1: You know, a billionaire, she would wear for a year 777 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: Sears clothes and no one would think so because people 778 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,399 Speaker 1: will walk up to her all the time that who 779 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 1: makes that. She's like for the nothing Bethany jeans like 780 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 1: forty dollars because she's rich and she doesn't need to 781 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 1: show it. And you find that and we see that 782 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: here people who really need to show their money are 783 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 1: lacking somewhere else, and they probably don't really have a 784 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,439 Speaker 1: lot of money. It's really if you have to show 785 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 1: it so desperately with logos to make you feel secure, 786 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 1: then you probably don't really have it. I don't think 787 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,120 Speaker 1: I have one item that has a logo on it, 788 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 1: not one that's fascinating. I am sure that I have 789 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 1: not a ton, but I'm sure that I do, but 790 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,879 Speaker 1: not a time. I would never want to show that 791 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 1: to people I like that. Yeah, well you are walking 792 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 1: the walk literally and talking to talk literally and you 793 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,160 Speaker 1: help a lot of people. And I think this was 794 00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 1: so amazing. Well, first of all, let me ask you 795 00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 1: one question before we finished, But I want to ask 796 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 1: you what you are Rose? And your thorn was of 797 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 1: the episode? The sweet part, believe it or not, for me, 798 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:13,280 Speaker 1: was was the little girl sitting on the bed talking 799 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 1: to mommy and owning her power. I loved that because 800 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 1: I saw potential. I saw potential there. The true thorn 801 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,280 Speaker 1: was the very first thing that I heard she say, 802 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 1: people are intimidated by my success. I was like, got it, Yeah, 803 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:38,720 Speaker 1: what is that about? Nobody's intimidated by your success? Girl? 804 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 1: What what is wrong with you? That was started me 805 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,799 Speaker 1: right then and there. That's amazing. That started me all 806 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:51,399 Speaker 1: the way down the road. And who you're the most 807 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,399 Speaker 1: like Candy of all the housewives? Right? I don't even 808 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 1: have to ask that. Yeah, if you were going to 809 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 1: compare me to that any of that? Right? And who's 810 00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 1: the most cent attaining as a as a character? Boy? 811 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 1: Sure is pretty um whatever there I have to tell you, 812 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 1: they're all really entertaining. You know my moment the board 813 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,920 Speaker 1: one is it? Kim the Blonde. Is that Kim or 814 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 1: who's Kim? Kim board me totally? She was Nothing she 815 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 1: did was entertaining. I felt like it was acting. I 816 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,720 Speaker 1: felt it was pretentious. I felt like you have nothing 817 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:34,839 Speaker 1: to teach people here on any level. It's like from 818 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,280 Speaker 1: so You're like, there's a value there because we learned 819 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 1: from some of the stuff you're saying. You know you're not. 820 00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 1: You don't learn anything to or not to do from Kim. 821 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:46,400 Speaker 1: You just felt like it was an eye roll. Uh wow, 822 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,279 Speaker 1: Susie Orman. I literally had no idea because you had 823 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 1: never watched and that wasn't relevant to me because I 824 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 1: wanted to have a fresh conversation. But with your expertise, 825 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 1: I'm just I can't wait to talk to my producers 826 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 1: because you walked into the right room about the right 827 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 1: topic and you're so good at this. Thank you so 828 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 1: much for listening to rewives today. I mentioned it all 829 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 1: and now it's your turn. Please take a minute to rate, 830 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 1: review and subscribe and follow the show's instagram at Rewives 831 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,279 Speaker 1: with Bethany. Is there an episode you want to hear 832 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 1: me talk about? Comment on any Rewives with Bethany Instagram posts, 833 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,840 Speaker 1: and our producers will add your selects to our list. 834 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 1: See you next time.