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So we 12 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: do the top ten every week at this time. And 13 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: there are these teams out there that I think are 14 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: pretty good, the Rams, the Chargers, the Bills. But I 15 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: sit and I go through all the numbers, and I again, 16 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 1: this is not standing. 17 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 3: I consider your help. Puka Nakua out for the Rams. 18 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: That's not the same offense you got running backs that 19 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: struggling with the Ravens. So I count what's your health like? 20 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: I don't care what you did Sunday? What is your 21 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: health like going forward? What do you do with San Francisco? 22 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: No bosa, no Fred Warner from last year, no hufunga, 23 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: no green law. I mean Robert Sla has limitations. So 24 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: here we go our herd hierarchy on this Tuesday. 25 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 3: Heard hierarchy time. 26 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: Now go the top ten NFL teams according to College 27 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: Number ten. 28 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: New England Patriots' easiest NFL schedule going forward. 29 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 3: This is not a mirage. 30 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: Drake May leads ranks top five and completion percentage, passing yards, 31 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: big plays, and passer rating. He's getting better than average protection, 32 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: He's got a running game. The kid moves well. Easy 33 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: schedule three and zero. Also, as Jamak pointed out last week, 34 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: since Christian Zalez, the cornerback, has returned three and up, 35 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: number nine, number nine, the Steelers listen. They don't turn 36 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: it over and they take it away. That does count 37 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: as a good trait. They're taking the football away now. 38 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 1: They're not facing great quarterbacks, but their only loss came 39 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 1: to the Seahawks, a team. 40 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: That is better. 41 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: They're the second least penalized team, and they have a 42 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: receiving corps and a tight end corep that looks like 43 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: an NBA front line that looks like the Dallas Mavericks. 44 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: Everybody's six six and up, so they are using some 45 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: height advantages, some size advantages. They don't throw it down 46 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: the field, but it's working. Pittsburgh at nine. 47 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 2: Number eight. 48 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 3: I like the Colts. 49 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: I think they have the second best offensive line in 50 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: football to Detroit, fewest sacks allowed in the NFL Indianapolis. 51 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: They are scoring on sixty two and a half percent 52 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: of their drives. 53 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 3: They also should have beaten the Rams. 54 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: They have the number one scoring offense, leaves the NFL 55 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: in first downs again Warren the rookie Pittman Jonathan Taylor, 56 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: a top two or three offensive line. 57 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 3: Daniel Jones this year. All you need to know. 58 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: He's completing over seventy one percent of his throws. I 59 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: think they have a ceiling. I don't think they're a 60 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: conference championship team yet. They may be this weekend if 61 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: they beat the Chargers, I may reassess. But I have 62 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: the Colts at number eight, number seven. 63 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 3: Green Bay. 64 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: They're young and can't figure out how to put away 65 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: inferior teams, but all three wins have come by thirteen 66 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: plus points. I like Jordan Love He's more far than 67 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. He could get a little careless, but they're 68 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: the best third down offense in the NFL and you 69 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: can't run on them. They're the opposite of the Bills. 70 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: You can't run on them. So they're doing a little 71 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: bit of takeaway this year, which they haven't historically done. 72 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: Craft's an unbelievable tight end. I like this team a lot. 73 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: They're very young, which concerns me. The quarterbacks, the receivers, 74 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: the tight end really young. But Jeff Hafley's got that 75 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: defense can't run on it, and they're taking it away. 76 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: Green Bay at seven, number six, Well, Seattle was my 77 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: surprise pick in the NFL this year. New England and Seattle. 78 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: They lead the NFL in yards per play. That is 79 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: a huge stat and if you watch them, jsn is 80 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: absolutely become a number one ride receiver in this league. 81 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, according to PFF, is the highest rated quarterback 82 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,239 Speaker 1: in the NFL. I think Baker would be my MVP. 83 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: But they can run it. They can get you over 84 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: the top, they throw to their tight ends. They are 85 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: young and athletic defensively and lead the league in yards 86 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: per play. Vegas loves that number Number five, Philadelphia thirtieth 87 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: ranked offense. I mean, it's pretty simple. When Jalen Hurts 88 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: throws the ball thirty three times, plus they're not good. 89 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: When he throws at twenty five times, they win. I 90 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: do think they're eventually going to to some degree right 91 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: the ship. But they've been out gained in every game 92 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: this season, and they have had three or four of 93 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: the worst halfs in the league thirty punts this year, 94 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: only Cleveland the Bengals have more. So their personnel puts 95 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: them at five, but I'm not sure they're at five. 96 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: Let's see him play Minnesota. Let's see Minnesota off of 97 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: BIBE hosting Philadelphia. I may knock him out of the 98 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: top ten like I've done Buffalo. 99 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 2: Number four. 100 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 3: I think Detroit's good. 101 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: I just think Kansas City is separated from the league 102 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: four games with thirty four plus points, best offensive line. 103 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: They're doing something that the Lions haven't done. And I 104 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: said this last week. A lot of sacks, a lot 105 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: of takeaways. They have the hardest remaining schedule. Again, this 106 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: is a really good football team. What Kansas City did 107 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: to them, nobody else in the league, in my opinion could. 108 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: In fact, they play Tampa this week, and I think 109 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: Detroit is gonna win that game and maybe comfortably. 110 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 3: Detroit at four. Number three, Colin, what are you doing 111 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 3: putting Sean Payton at Denver at three. 112 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: Do you know they are the best in the league 113 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: at protecting their quarterback and the best in the league 114 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: at getting after yours. I think they're one of the 115 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: few teams that actually can make Kansas City a little 116 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: uncomfortable high altitude for home games. I like their weapons. 117 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: I don't think bo Nicks is playing particularly well, but 118 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: they You can't get to bon Nicks and he's had 119 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: I think he should run more. You can't get to him, 120 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: and they get after your quarterback. So they have the 121 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: number one ranked offensive line, best third down defense, best 122 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: red zone defense. They don't have to be great at quarterback. 123 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: They can play poorly and win, like this past week. 124 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: I have them at three number two Tampa's five and one. 125 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: They could also be two and four, but Baker Mayfield 126 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: it would be my MVP. They are playing without their 127 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: number one receiver, their number two receiver, their number three receiver, 128 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: their number four receiver. They're going to a D two 129 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: guy in Tez Johnson, no Bucky Irving. Baker Mayfield has 130 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: accounted for seventeen hundred yards. Only Mahomes has accounted for more. 131 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: I think they're resilient. I think they're tough and they're 132 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: doing it. I've always liked their GM. They are doing 133 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: it right now with backups. I think Tampa's two number one, 134 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: but I don't think it's particularly close. I think Kansas 135 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: City is with Rashi Rice coming back, he's not going 136 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: to get thirteen targets in his first week back. He'll 137 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: probably get four to six. But Hollywood Brown, Juju Smith, 138 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: Travis Worthy o line didn't even have their left tackle. 139 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: This is a good football team suffocating defensively. I said 140 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: when they beat the Ravens, I don't want to hear 141 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: about injuries. They physically stopped Lamar. Lamar was completely not 142 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: only in his head, he could didn't have any space. 143 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: So to the Colts, they have the second most efficient offense. 144 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: They're not giving the ball away. I mean to play. 145 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: Detroit did not have a penalty, not have a turnover 146 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: in one punt. Detroit's good, really good. That's why I 147 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: only dropped him to four. This is my Herd hierarchy. 148 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: And with that, Nick Wright is now joining us Live. 149 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: I know you think, let me explain, let me explain Denver. 150 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 4: Now. 151 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: I know you don't think Denver's that good, But my 152 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: takeaway is I'm looking at people that can match up 153 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: a little with Kansas City and their O line in 154 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: D line pressure at least makes it interesting. I don't 155 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: know if anybody else does, and I don't think I'm 156 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: over the top. 157 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 3: I think they've refound. 158 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: Kansas City looks like Kansas City three years ago. 159 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 5: Absolutely, and starting next week, Kansas City will have the 160 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,439 Speaker 5: best receiving corps it has had since Tyree Kill was 161 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 5: on the team. And for the first time in three years, 162 00:08:55,280 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 5: Colin Patrick trusts his offensive line even last week to 163 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 5: your point with a backup offensive left tackle, shout out 164 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 5: Brett Veach, who this summer signed Jalen Moore to be 165 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 5: the starting left tackle. Then Josh Simmons falls to him 166 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 5: in the draft. He's the starting left tackle. And last year, 167 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 5: after the Chiefs had four different left tackles, none of 168 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 5: whom really could play the position except for their left 169 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 5: guard Joe Tony, who had to go over and play it, 170 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 5: they now seem to have an excellent rookie and a 171 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 5: really good swing tackle, and so I think the Chiefs 172 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 5: are you are correct there. I know this is a 173 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 5: very difficult and sad day for jamac as the Chiefs 174 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 5: are back where they deserve a top third hierarchy. But 175 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 5: I do think you, Colin, I want to talk about 176 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 5: the Broncos. You're right because I agree with everything you said. 177 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 5: Nick Benito might be the best defensive player in football 178 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 5: at this very moment. 179 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 4: On the offensive line is excellent. 180 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 5: I see Sean Payton scheming guys wide open three to 181 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 5: five times a game, and then I see bo Nicks 182 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 5: miss him by five yard. Can you in the modern 183 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 5: NFL be the third best team in the league with 184 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 5: a quarterback playing as poorly as bo Nicks as playing 185 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 5: week in week out. He has his moments like the 186 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 5: fourth quarter a couple weeks ago against Billy where he 187 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 5: was excellent, but on a down to down basis, he 188 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 5: has not been good. And I don't think it's unfair 189 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 5: to say, Colin that if Denver were playing twenty nine 190 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 5: of the other thirty two teams this Sunday past Sunday morning, 191 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 5: they'd have lost that game. I think only the Jets 192 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 5: and the Brian Callahan Titans find. 193 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 4: A way to lose it. 194 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 5: So this past week didn't exactly raise my hopes about Denver. 195 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 5: But the old line is excellent and the defense is spectacular, 196 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 5: which is carrying them. 197 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: So I watched the Bills last night and I'm going 198 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: to throw this at you. I said, there was a 199 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: moment Mark Jackson was a good coach, but he was 200 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: a good you kind of felt like, boys, Steph Curry 201 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: needs his conductor and they get Steve Kerr And you're like, okay, 202 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: So defense is easier to coach, you would argue than offense. 203 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 1: There's a lot more movement. It has to be more 204 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: choreographed on average, certainly in football. And so it worked. 205 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 1: And I watched Sean McDermott, I'm like, he's fine. Is 206 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: he Mark Jackson? Because once again, because once you pay, 207 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: as you know, once you pay the quarterback, you're not 208 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: going to be great. 209 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 3: You have to be. 210 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: Able to turn Juju Smith Schuster into a reliable target 211 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: and Hollywood Brown into more than just a kind of 212 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: a talented guy. And Andy Reid can do it. Andy 213 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: can tweak. He's the engineer. He lifts the hood up, 214 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: he can tweak. Sean McDermott feels like a really good supervisor. 215 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: Are the Bills issues really the coach? 216 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 5: I think it's multi faceted. I think the defense isn't 217 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 5: that good this year. I think that's more probably on 218 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 5: Bean than the coach. I think that here's the tough 219 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 5: part for me. Well, let me start with the coach, 220 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 5: then I'll get to Josh. In all of NFL history, 221 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 5: and I keep going back to this stat because I 222 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 5: think it's instructive, every single coach quarterback combo that has 223 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 5: ever won at least one Super Bowl together won their 224 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 5: first Super Bowl together within five years of being together. 225 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 5: For McDermott and Allen, and by the way, Lamar and Hardball, 226 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 5: this is year eight. No one else has taken this 227 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 5: long to have it happen and then. 228 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 4: It actually happened. 229 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 5: So history tells us for either of those teams to 230 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 5: get over the hump, they probably will need to at 231 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 5: some point make a change and listen. I think Sean 232 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 5: McDermott is under massive pressure. I think he's a good coach, 233 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 5: and I think the Mark Jackson comp could be a 234 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 5: good one, a good coach, but they've reached their limit there. 235 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 5: With that said, and I think Josh Allen is pretty 236 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 5: clearly the second best quarterback in football, and he's a 237 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 5: great player, and that MVP last year made him a 238 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 5: future Hall of Famer. But he lives in a narrative 239 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 5: space with the media that. 240 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 4: Is so unique to me. 241 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 5: I watched after Week three when they beat the Dolphins 242 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 5: and he played great. One of the most respected members 243 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 5: of the national media say he plays the position better 244 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 5: than anyone in the history of the league. And last 245 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 5: week he turns the ball over three times and they 246 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 5: are and they lose, scoring fourteen points. And you showed 247 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 5: the key fourth down where he flips it like that. 248 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 5: They have the ball three separate times in the fourth 249 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 5: quarter of the chance to tie the game, and people 250 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 5: seem hesitant to say, hey, Josh, the last two weeks 251 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 5: got outplayed by Drake May and got outplayed by Michael Pinnix. 252 00:13:59,040 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 4: That shouldn't happen. 253 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 5: And so I think he's the second best player in 254 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 5: the league. I really do, But he's not beyond criticism. 255 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 5: I do think the Bills have structural issues, but the 256 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 5: biggest issue last night was with the offense, and that 257 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 5: to me is more on Josh than anyone else. 258 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: So last night, yeah, So I want to talk about 259 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: Bears and go a little deep on this is that 260 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: if you look at through five games compared to last year, 261 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: they're a touchdown a game better, and that's a lot. 262 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: Last year, seven of the twelve Bears losses were one possession, 263 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: so a touchdown is different. But their energy last night 264 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: was incredible. But my takeaway and the Bears this year, 265 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: they've just eliminated the ridiculous losing on a hail Mary 266 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: when your player is chatting with fans, losing as the 267 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: clock runs out in Detroit, losing six to three, losing 268 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: a game with a block kick. 269 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 3: They just run the ball and don't turn it over. 270 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: That so much of what's because I still think Jayden 271 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: Daniels last night is more refined, more accurate, and more consistent. 272 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: Caleb was okay, But my takeaway is the Bears have 273 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: the talent to be really dangerous, like I'm talking Conference 274 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: championship biable with their skilled people in their pass rush. 275 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: What Ben's really done is said, let's just get rid 276 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: of the nonsense, run the ball and don't turn it over. 277 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: I don't think the play calling is unbelievable. They just 278 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: don't beat themselves, is what I'm seeing. 279 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 5: So yes, I agree with you, and listen. They have 280 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 5: back to back twenty five twenty four wins by the 281 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 5: skin of their teeth, one against a Raider team that 282 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 5: isn't good even though I thought it would be. And 283 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 5: one against a Commander team that I think is pretty good, 284 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 5: and that's out. Then the Margins are in this league. 285 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 5: If they missed the field goal last night, or missed 286 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 5: the field goal again, or you know, the Raiders drive 287 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 5: down the field and beat them, we're talking. It's a 288 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 5: totally different conversation around the Bears, and they're probably not 289 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 5: much worse or much better. 290 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 4: They had to win last night. 291 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 5: You can't win the turnover battle three nothing in that 292 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 5: spot and lose that game. And I also think that 293 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 5: the how crowded the NFC playoff picture is, last night's 294 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 5: game might be a tiebreaker that determines a playoff spot 295 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 5: between these two teams. 296 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 4: It was wildly important. 297 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 5: Where I would be optimistic if i'm Chicago is I 298 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 5: don't think Caleb has played great yet. I think he 299 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 5: will continue to get better. I do think you're right 300 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 5: that Ben Johnson is right now on the most vanilla 301 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 5: part of the playbook as he slowly tries to build 302 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 5: it up. I also, however, do want to be fair, 303 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 5: and I know Jaden has earned far more of a 304 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 5: benefit of doubt van Caleb and I know last night 305 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 5: was weird and Jaden's coming off an injury and it 306 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 5: was rainy, but the pick Jaden threw took points off 307 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 5: the board and was brutal. And if Caleb Williams had 308 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 5: mishandled a snap into a fumble with four minutes left 309 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 5: in a game they were leading, we would be killing 310 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 5: I'm not trying to kill Jayden for it, by the way. 311 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 4: It was a weird game. 312 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 5: Mistakes happened, But I do think we have to be 313 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 5: you know, kind of measured and fair with the expectations 314 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 5: for Caleb where they're at now. I also think it 315 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 5: you know, if you would have asked anyone in the 316 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 5: world going into the draft, who the overwhelming consensus who's 317 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 5: the best was Caleb at the end of last year, 318 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 5: the overwhelming consensus would have been Jayden. Right now this moment, 319 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 5: it feels like the overwhelming consensus would be Drake may Like, 320 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 5: these things are fluid and it's going to there's going 321 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 5: to be a lot of different iterations over the next 322 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 5: three four seasons between those top three picks. 323 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: So I want to end with Baker Mayfield because you know, 324 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: I've told you this, I like him. 325 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 3: I think he's a good guy. 326 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: I just I thought he was a reach at number one, 327 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: and I didn't think he had the maturity I wanted 328 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: to in a dysfunctional Cleveland, and I thought that's not 329 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: a great fit. And it ended up when Stefanski got there, 330 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: it wasn't a great fit, even though he won a 331 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: playoff game. But I watch him now and he said, 332 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: you know, he used to say cocky and now I'm 333 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: a dog and it's all the same. And my take is, 334 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: you're too smart not to grow up. We all grow up. 335 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: We all learn from our mistakes. If you're reasonably bright. 336 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 1: Why do you think because he's six' one not a super, 337 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: athlete he's always thrown a great deep. Ball what do 338 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: you think to turn around is he says he's the same. 339 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 1: GUY i think he's to smart to be the same. 340 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: Guy what do you how do you explain this metamorphosis 341 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: in his young. 342 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 5: Career, WELL i agree with him in this regard that 343 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 5: him chirping at the fan that he did In seattle 344 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 5: would have been met with scorn had he done it 345 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 5: as a, rookie and now is met with you, know 346 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 5: that's what Makes baker. Baker but that IS i, mean 347 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 5: that's not unique to. HIM i mean what he SAID 348 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 5: i think is. Correct was IT i know this is 349 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 5: cliche and it's, fiction. 350 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 4: But was it any given? Sunday what was it. 351 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 5: Where the guy would throw up before the game or 352 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 5: during the. Game and one of his teammates was, like, 353 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 5: listen if we're, winning people will think that's, awesome and 354 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 5: if we're, losing they're gonna say you're. Scared it's the 355 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:14,200 Speaker 5: same thing like that is pretty common across. SPORTS i, think, 356 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 5: honestly what happened With baker was he got better as 357 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 5: his career went. 358 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 4: On he you, know became a more refined. 359 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 5: PLAYER i think he understood better his limitations as far 360 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 5: as his speed and ability to escape the pass. Rush 361 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 5: and now his best scrambles seemed to be where it 362 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 5: looks like he's dead to rights and it's less about 363 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 5: speed and more about. Toughness and SO i think that has. 364 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 5: HELPED i think he is. Now you, know he is 365 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 5: in a far more functional organization than The. Browns he 366 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 5: has better, weapons even though this past week they were all. 367 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 5: Hurt AND i also do think in professional, football the 368 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 5: thing he has that really has all always mattered is 369 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 5: he is AND i know it sounds, corny but he 370 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 5: is a true, alpha and those guys love. HIM i 371 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 5: think that when you're a to, me it is the 372 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 5: opposite of the DYNAMIC i feel Between tua and his. 373 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 5: Teammates it feels Like tua's teammates are waiting for him 374 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 5: to throw them under the. 375 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 4: BUS i think they roll their. 376 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 5: EYES i think he makes a bunch of mistakes and 377 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 5: then he talks about other guys being late for, meetings 378 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 5: AND i think that has a real negative. 379 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:33,159 Speaker 4: Impact on the. 380 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 5: TEAM i think with The, bucks they See baker to 381 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 5: the exact. Opposite always build guys, up always try to 382 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 5: lead from the front and be one of the toughest 383 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 5: guys playing the, position and it gives everyone more. Confidence 384 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 5: it makes everyone play, better and SO i think it's 385 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 5: an all time great. STORY i think to be a 386 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 5: walk on to A Heisman trophy win or a number one, 387 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 5: pick to trade and to cut to fighting With Kyle 388 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 5: transford job to now be THE mvp of the league 389 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 5: through six weeks and it looks like it's going to 390 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 5: come down to him And patrick over the course of 391 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 5: the year is really one of the coolest stories in 392 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 5: my professional career in this. 393 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 4: League it's such. 394 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 5: A unique arc and one that no one else is 395 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 5: going to. Have And, COLIN i think they are super. 396 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 5: Dangerous they have a tough next six weeks and in 397 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 5: the end of the year they Have carolina, twice they Have, 398 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 5: arizona they Have New, orleans they Have, atlanta they have 399 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 5: one OTHER i Think. Miami they could go into the 400 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 5: playoffs thirteen and, four the number one. 401 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 4: Seed a six game winning. 402 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 5: Streak this can absolutely be a Super bowl team and 403 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 5: he absolutely can be THE mvp of the. 404 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: League Nick, wright first things, first as, Always, buddy great 405 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: talking to. 406 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 4: You Great Scenia. 407 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 3: Kam yeah it. 408 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 1: Is. YEAH i mean when you look At, baker that's 409 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: a franchise. Quarterback, similarly when you look At Sam, darnold you, 410 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: know a lot of people are, like, Hey sam's a great. Story, 411 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: No Gino, smith that was a great. Story he's not 412 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: a great. Player baker's a great. Player sam's a great. 413 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: Player there are great stories Like Justin, Fields oh he's 414 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 1: gonna Be he's not a great, player and it's not 415 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: even a good. Player so but The Donald baker stuff 416 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: is about this new group of lots and lots of 417 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: smart football out. There for older, coaches willing to embrace, 418 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: it or younger coaches. Ascending But donald's a franchise. Quarterback 419 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: there's no reason For seattle to draft. One they've got their, 420 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: guy and for the, Record minnesota probably privately wishes they still. 421 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 2: Have darnald one more. Heard The herd streams twenty four 422 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 2: hours a, day seven days a week within The iHeartRadio. 423 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 2: App Search herd to listen live or on demand whenever you. 424 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 6: Like, hi this Is. Jay i'm the producer of The 425 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 6: paul And Toni Fusco. Show usually in these promos they 426 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 6: ask you to listen to the. Show i'm here to 427 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 6: ask you please don't listen to the. Show the hosts 428 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 6: are two absolute morons who have the dumbest takes on. 429 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 6: Sportsmagicable don't listen to the show so it can get. 430 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 6: Camp the hell are you doing our? 431 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 3: Studio ignore that. 432 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 7: Fool listen to The Pauline Tony Fusco show on The 433 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 7: iHeart radio app or wherever you get your. 434 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 3: Podcast he's still. 435 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 8: Moving got a scurry to look up analytics on The Urban. 436 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 8: DICTIONARY i don't know what that, means but let's start 437 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 8: With tua and The Miami. Dolphins, colin here's a team, 438 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 8: here not. Analytics it's not working. Anyway to a question 439 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 8: the leadership of The dolphins after That chargers, loss his 440 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 8: head Coach mike McDaniel addressed to his comments On monday. 441 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 9: After a loss as as the franchise, quarterback that's not 442 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 9: the form to displace. THAT i think he knows that. 443 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,719 Speaker 9: NOW i do honestly believe it was. Not there's no ill, 444 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 9: intention but you're you're talking about, uh you, KNOW i 445 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 9: think kind of a misguided representation of player orchestrated film. 446 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 8: SESSION i Like Daniel, man but he sounds Like colin 447 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 8: one of these like seventh graders standing up in front 448 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 8: of the, class who uh, like come, on. 449 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 7: Dude you're a head. 450 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 8: Coach he's not looking senatorial at the podium. Again McDaniel 451 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 8: made the playoffs twice In. MIAMI i do believe he's 452 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 8: a good. Coach sometimes is your first go, round it's 453 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 8: not great as a head. Coach you could Have Cliff 454 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 8: kingsbury In arizona and commanding the locker. Room i'm not 455 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 8: selling all My mike McDaniel stock. 456 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: Yet i'll just think he's a good football. COACH i 457 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: don't know if he's a head coach we'll find. 458 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 3: Out there is something to be. 459 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: Said do you think it's a coincidence that Overnight Mike 460 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 1: frabels created a culture, Overnight Jim harbaugh created a culture, 461 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: Overnight sean. 462 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 8: McVay these guys are sixty years, old McDaniel. Decades, McVay 463 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 8: i thought you, Said, okay all, Right, no doesn't take. 464 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: Decades you can create a culture if you're the. Guy 465 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: but by the, Way saban did it in a year 466 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: and a, half he's five. Six it's not about how 467 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: big you. Are there is something to be said about 468 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: the ability to command and intimidate and get people to 469 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: rally around. You it's always been to my knock on. 470 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,479 Speaker 1: McDaniel he's a little, squirrely he's. Smart i'd hire him 471 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 1: in one second to be MY. Oc but there is 472 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 1: something to be said when you look at all the 473 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 1: culture builders in THE, NFL a lot of them are 474 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: like Intimidating. Vrabel Mike tomlin's a Great you've always, Said 475 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: Zach taylor? Smart is he a culture? 476 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 7: Building, well it's tough some of these young. 477 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 8: Guys okay mcveigh's one example of a young guy who 478 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 8: came in. 479 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 7: And built A Colt. 480 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 3: Shanahan excellent. 481 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 8: Job shanahan's father was a. Coach he's been around football 482 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 8: since he was. Eight, LIKE i, mean, again it's really 483 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 8: tough for these guys to come in and we Thowt 484 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 8: callahan And. Tennessee he got. Dusted his dad was a 485 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 8: coach forever he came. In he couldn't handle the. Rooms 486 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 8: he's gone in twenty. Games, Again i'm probably higher on 487 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 8: most than. McDaniel and maybe you're. Right he's not a, 488 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 8: general he's more of a lieutenant or whatever the ranking. 489 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 8: IS i do think that this game is. Interesting you, 490 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 8: see The browns are. Three it was two and a half. 491 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 8: YESTERDAY i hit The. BROWNS i think The browns defense 492 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 8: at home bottles them. Up the weather looks like it 493 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 8: could be in. Clement, yep you know to in bad. 494 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 8: Weather this is a weather. Game, yeah so we both 495 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 8: like The. Browns all, right let's move. On this is 496 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 8: an interesting. Story This Matt, Rule, okay The nebraska. Coach 497 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 8: he's being linked To Penn. State feldman talked about it 498 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 8: yesterday here on the. Show but it's deeper than. That 499 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 8: The Penn state ad. 500 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 7: Used to be At. Temple he Hired. Rule they have 501 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 7: a deep relationship. 502 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 8: Anyway rule was asked about the rumors. Yesterday here's what 503 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:36,719 Speaker 8: he said At. 504 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 10: Nebraska i'm not going to talk a lot about job 505 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 10: openings when they. Come this is maybe it's been a while, 506 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:44,719 Speaker 10: here but this is what happens when you. Win i've 507 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 10: dealt with. It you, Know we've won a temple AND 508 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 10: i dealt with it all the, time dealt With. Baylor 509 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,719 Speaker 10: i'm not going to talk about those things. Ever i'm 510 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 10: not gonna talk about my contract. Here i'm gonna talk 511 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 10: about the. Team but, YEAH i absolutely love it here 512 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 10: AND i just want TO i want us to continue 513 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 10: to take the steps needed for us to turn this 514 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 10: thing into a. Beast But i'm really happy here and 515 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 10: excited to get going this week On. 516 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: Minnesota, YEAH i you, know there's if you're making eight 517 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: nine seven eight nine million dollars and your family's. HAPPY 518 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: i think nil and transfer. Portal it used to be 519 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 1: about facilities and. Geography who's got the most. Money oregon 520 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: has more money than big City. Seattle that's Why oregon's. 521 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: Better they go buy better. Players and by the, Way 522 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,959 Speaker 1: Ohio state had big nil. Money Is columbus blowing you 523 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: away as a place all player they've got more. Money 524 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: so it doesn't matter if you have a GOOD, nil 525 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: if you're in that twelve million dollar space and the 526 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: staff is, HAPPY i don't THINK i hear. This you, 527 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: Know Kurt signetti's going To Penn. State just show me What. 528 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: Indiana i'm looking At indiana's defensive front and their pass 529 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: rush and their, quarterback And i'm, like somebody's spending money 530 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: In indiana football to buy good. Players SO i JUST 531 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: i don't THINK i remember fifteen years ago When oregon 532 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: built these crazy, facilities it became a facilities. 533 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 3: War it's not usc built. 534 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: Facilities it's because they're nil's twenty million a. 535 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 3: Year that's why they're buying good. 536 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 8: Players so it seems like a lot of fans are, 537 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 8: like wait a, minute you Hired, franklin who couldn't beat good, 538 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 8: teams and now you want to bring On Matt, rule 539 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 8: who is wait for, it. 540 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 7: Two and twenty three. 541 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 8: Colin against ranked, opponents which Is James franklin's. Territories now 542 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 8: the counter, is, hey, man you're two and twenty three 543 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 8: against rank opponents when you're coaching At temple And nebraska 544 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 8: and your big. Underdogs what Would rule do if he, Had, 545 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 8: OH i don't know the five star recruits That Penn state. 546 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 7: Has maybe it's a different. 547 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 8: Story and then of course we had someone smart on 548 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 8: the staff, say, well, Wait, jake what Did rule do 549 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 8: In carolina With Baker mayfield And Sam. 550 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 3: Darnold and then. 551 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 7: You're, like, oh he didn't do. 552 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 8: Much now you could say the owner was getting in 553 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 8: the way and meddling and maker maybe it just wasn't 554 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 8: a good, fit and you can make. 555 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 7: Excuses there's no right answer. Here this is a fascinating. 556 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: Story That rule would not be my choice At Penn. 557 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: STATE i think he's a fine. Coach signetti would be 558 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: a GUY i would look. At but IF i Was Kurt, 559 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: signetti is it worth moving rebuilding it again for another 560 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: two million? Dollars now he's From, pennsylvania they're. 561 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 7: Going to offer him more than ten million dollars Coming. 562 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: Well If adidas, Comes adidas has a Big Penn state. 563 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: Deal if they give him fifteen million dollars a, Year 564 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: i'm almost doubling my. 565 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 3: Money THEN i have to sit down and have a. 566 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: Conversation BUT i, mean, Listen indiana just went and Beat 567 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: oregon In. Notason you can play with. Anybody there's an 568 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: argument they're the best team in the. 569 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 7: COUNTRY i, mean but it's tougher than. 570 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 8: That you, know you've got a factor in your wife 571 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 8: and what she wants to be. 572 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 7: Around maybe your wife Loves. BLOOMINGTON i don't. 573 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 8: Know maybe this is his dream. Job you, Know like 574 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 8: there's a lot of stuff out. There this is going 575 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 8: to be an interesting one Because i'll be, HONEST i 576 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 8: don't know That Penn state's as great of a job 577 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 8: as we think it. Is i'm just putting, That, like 578 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 8: if you're ranking the big ten jobs coming and you'll 579 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 8: probably have client on, tomorrow Is Penn state a top five? 580 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 3: Job, yes you, sure go down the. 581 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 7: List come, On. 582 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 1: Ohio state, One michigan, TWO, Usc, Oregon Penn, state. 583 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 7: Were Certain Penn states checking n? 584 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 3: Five, yeah four or? 585 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 7: Five you, Know, Okay i'll give it to. You final 586 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 7: Story colin Is Nick, benito one. 587 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 8: Of the best edge rushers in, football leading THE nfl 588 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 8: in sacks with. Eight right, now he was part of 589 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 8: the defense that held The jets to eleven. Points remember 590 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 8: last Year Pat sertan with The Defensive player of The. 591 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 7: Year he's now Suggesting benito should win the. 592 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 8: Award the numbers for him are pretty damn good coming 593 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 8: off the. 594 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 7: Edge he. 595 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 8: Is he's probably gonna Maul Jackson dart this. Weekend this 596 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 8: is one of my one of the GAMES i like a, 597 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,239 Speaker 8: lot AND i know it's a big number for The. 598 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 8: Broncos they didn't just, cover But Jackson dart against his 599 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 8: defense is going to be in a hell of. 600 00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 2: Trouble. 601 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: Well, also remember when can a coach coach the hardest 602 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: when his team plays poorly yet. Wins, yeah, So Sean, 603 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: payton this is going to be a rough week of. 604 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: Practice this is also one of MY i think this 605 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: is my third favorite bet or fourth favorite. BET i 606 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: already turned my bets in so to the, staff and It's. 607 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,479 Speaker 1: TUESDAY i usually wait Until. Thursday, uh this is one 608 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: of the ONES i. Like you're turning on the same 609 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: page on a. COUPLE i think THAT i Think cleveland watch, 610 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: out AND i Think denver's gonna come hair on. 611 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 8: Fire, YEAH i, mean you're turning in In matthew McConaughey 612 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 8: two for the. Money you remember he was just turning 613 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,959 Speaker 8: in his bets early in the weekend going. Golfing well 614 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 8: that's when he was on a. 615 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 3: Heater you go four and. 616 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 8: One this is what, happened you get all. Excited, uh 617 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 8: just a quick, NOTE i am concerned For. Denver Bo 618 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 8: nick's still not playing. Great, Colin at what point are we, like, 619 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 8: oh it's a sophomore, slow because WE'RE i think we're 620 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 8: a little past that now Right he's he just didn't. 621 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 7: LISTEN i know the. 622 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 8: Story with The jets couldn't do. Anything Bon NICKS i 623 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 8: think had like something like three first downs in the second, 624 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 8: half like they couldn't move the. 625 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: Football he has not been a good deep ball. Thrower 626 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: and they have deep ball receivers So sutton And mems 627 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: And franklin can get. Deep he has struggled in the deep, 628 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: ball not just missing deep ball, throws like missing them. 629 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 3: Badly he may not be a great deep ball. 630 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: THROWER i remember coming into the draft people Said Derek 631 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: carr has a better, arm And derek didn't have a great. 632 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: Army he had a fine. Arm so maybe it may 633 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: just be Bo nicks as eighteen yards and. End he's 634 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: not a good deep ball. Thrower AND i think what 635 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: Frustrates peyton is they have a deep ball receiving cor. 636 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: Yep sutton And mims And franklin all have excellent length and. 637 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 3: SPEED J mack with the. 638 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 2: News well that's the, news and thanks for stopping By 639 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 2: The Herd Line. 640 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: NEWS i tell you the man analytics that should have 641 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: taken over analytics last. 642 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 2: Night be sure to catch live editions Of The herd 643 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 2: weekdays and Noon easter nine Am pacific On Fox Sports 644 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 2: RADIO fs one and The iHeartRadio. 645 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 3: App after powering. 646 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 8: Their way to a two games nothing series, lead The 647 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 8: mariners had home To seattle for a Pivotal game three 648 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 8: of THE alcs as The Blue jays look to climb 649 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 8: back into the. Series coverage begins at SEVEN Bm, eastern 650 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 8: Four pacific tomorrow ON fs. 651 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: One SO i remember years ago When Lou panello was 652 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: managing The cubs and The cubs got into a big playoff. 653 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: Series this is a long time, ago and he made 654 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: a pitching change and he was, like, Hey i'm gonna 655 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: set it up for later in the. Series and my take, 656 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: was you're The. Cubs win the game in front of, 657 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: You you're The. Cubs and so when They, dodgers AND 658 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: i Love Dave, roberts he's a regular on the. Show 659 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: when they took Out Blake, SNELL i WISH i Had 660 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: Dave roberts today because this is a ten minute. Conversation to, 661 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: ME i would have Kept snelling for a lot of. 662 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: Reasons number, one he just threw the Greatest dodger postseason 663 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: performance probably Since. Cofax that puts enormous pressure on the 664 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: bullpen because he's sitting on the dugout, steps and that's 665 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: better than Even kersha on the. Playoffs so there's that. Pressure, 666 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: also he went To Roki, sazaki who's not a natural. 667 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 1: Closer he's a, rookie and this Is game one against 668 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: the Team milwaukee that led baseball in, hits or at 669 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: least The National. League so the, SIR i would Use 670 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: roki at home At Dodger stadium with a more comfortable, 671 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: LEAD i would use, it maybe not in a Crucial 672 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: game one on the, road BUT i think the pressure 673 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: on the staff And roki in that, moment who's not 674 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: a natural. Closer he's done a good. Job but that's 675 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: this is Not mariano Or Roley. Fingers that's not what 676 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: we're talking. About as a young. Kid game one on the, 677 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: road you're in a you, KNOW i, mean let's be, Honest, 678 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: snell just through the greatest GAME i Think i've seen 679 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: a starting pitcher throw in a playoff. Game they could 680 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: not get good contact on. Him And snell's a guy 681 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: that actually Gets he's really good post one hundred, pitches 682 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: really good Like eer goes. Down so this is not 683 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: in the previous innings he had shown nowhere and. Tear 684 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 1: So Dave roberts takeaway is, listen he was at one 685 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: hundred and two hundred and three. Pitches we're thinking about 686 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 1: setting up For game. Five it reminds me of that 687 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,439 Speaker 1: Lou panela moment with the, Cops, like win the game 688 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: in front of, you worry about, tomorrow tomorrow when you 689 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: get to THE, nlcs The alcs of The World. 690 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 3: Series just win the. Game just win the. 691 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: Game we'll figure it. Out these are pro. Athletes, hell 692 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: you may bring in a. Starter you may bring In 693 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:28,959 Speaker 1: snell for an inning In game. 694 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 3: Six you just make it. 695 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: Up that's why analytics in baseball or THE nba and 696 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: THE nba analytics are silly in the playoffs because it's 697 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: literally officiated. Differently they don't blow the, whistle so you're 698 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,240 Speaker 1: not getting to the free throw line in the. Playoffs 699 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 1: they're gonna let you. Play and in, baseball you'll you'll 700 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: starters in the, pen you will manage it totally. Differently so, 701 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: Again Dave roberts forgets more in a day Than i've 702 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: known in my life about. Baseball but when they pulled him, 703 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: on like he's not, Struggling i've never seen anything like. 704 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 1: This milwaukee is a great hitting. Team they could not 705 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: get bat on. BALL i mean they he Made milwaukee 706 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: look like a TRIPLE a. Lineup they were. Behind his 707 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: off speed stuff was just on. Fire SO i wouldn't 708 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: have done. It so The, brewers my. Bad there were 709 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: third in hits Second National, league behind The. 710 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 3: Phillies my. Bad but that was a classic. 711 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: Example like there's a, man he's on the, mound He's Cofax, 712 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: ANALYTICS i want him. 713 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 3: CLOSING i want. 714 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: Him it's like AN nba playoff game where a guy's 715 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 1: at forty four, minutes he's an older, player And i'm, like, 716 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: BRO i just want HIS iq on the. Floor lebron's 717 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 1: had some of. Those you're, like, well he's blown way 718 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: through his. Minutes we need to win the. Game Keep 719 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 1: lebron in the. Game so you, KNOW i get the 720 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: Reasoning analytics says pull. Him but and also again an unnatural, 721 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,880 Speaker 1: closer he's a starter rookie on the road against the, 722 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 1: team and he didn't have his, stuff AND i think 723 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 1: some of it was BECAUSE i was last outing was. 724 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:05,399 Speaker 1: GREAT i honestly think That Blake snell was so good 725 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: it put more pressure On. ROKIE i, mean can you 726 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: imagine Watching Don lars And sandy go Facts he moved through, 727 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: it and it's, like, YEAH i want to sit in 728 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,800 Speaker 1: a dugout and watch, you watch, you and then a 729 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: man gets on and then a guy gets solid bat on, 730 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: it and you're, like, oh this thing is unraveling. Fast 731 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 1: But dave trusts his. Guys he wanted to Get blake 732 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: out there to his reliever in the. Pen thank god 733 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: they swung in a bad pitch if you're A dodger, 734 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: Fan but it is that classic EXAMPLE i tend to 735 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: look when you get into. These you, know, obviously in 736 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: a one game setting in college or pro, football you 737 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: win the. Game but a lot of times managers in 738 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: baseball are, about, HEY i want to set up my. 739 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,280 Speaker 1: BULLPEN i want to get my guys back on their regular. 740 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 1: Rotation but, MAN i could be in the. Minority maybe 741 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: dodg your fans were all for, it but that dude 742 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 1: was that IS i had THE tv on my big 743 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: screen last, night And i'm, like they're not Even they're 744 00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: swinging at bad. Pitches he is In milwaukee's. Head these 745 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: guys don't want to even go up. There ask yourself, 746 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 1: this what do you Think milwaukee's batters did when they 747 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: Pulled Blake? 748 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 3: Snell? 749 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 1: Hallelujah ask, yourself what did The brewers batters? Do they 750 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: would much rather face the kid in a huge spot 751 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: on the road Than, blake even if it's for the fourth. Time, 752 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: like nobody wanted to face that. Guy so that's my man. 753 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: List sometimes guy in a, heater let him, go just 754 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 1: blow through the, analytics let him. Go Peyton manninglow has 755 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 1: said this about football. Analytics he, said everybody's always, like 756 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: go for, it he, Goes, well it depends on the, 757 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 1: drive he. Goes i've had drives where you're picking up 758 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: first downs by a foot all the way down the, 759 00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:00,560 Speaker 1: Field like four yards is, hard he. Goes other, times chunk, 760 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: play chunk, play he, goes chunk, plays go for, it he. 761 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,800 Speaker 3: Goes but not all fourth and threes are the. 762 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: Same at, midfield there are you going into games and 763 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: you're getting worked up, front and fourth and three is 764 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 1: fourth and, eight and you cannot run the. Ball guard center, 765 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: guard and they know you can't run the, Ball so 766 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:25,800 Speaker 1: the performance outweighs the. Equation last, night the performance outweighed the. 767 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: Equation that was just my take our Three Robert mays 768 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,359 Speaker 1: from The athletic great Writer around The. Corner