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Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Football Show, presented by Caesar's Rewards. Make

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Speaker 1: your Man MG Marcus Grant, masking and socially distancing when

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Speaker 1: and where possible. Hopefully you are doing the same. We are.

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Speaker 1: What a week and a half from actual NFL football.

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Speaker 1: It is weird to think considering how the off season

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Speaker 1: has gone, but we're excited about it. Big show today

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Speaker 1: we will talk some big RB news that has come

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Speaker 1: And also for you gamers out there, especially you Madden freaks,

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Speaker 1: We've got a surprise coming up at the end of

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Speaker 1: But before we dive too much into it, stuck to

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Speaker 1: our faithful producer. See you're Edward L. Murphy. Esquire Murph

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Speaker 1: latest on the air conditioning saga where you are not fixed.

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Speaker 1: I mean luckily it's uh it's been like chill. You're

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm wearing long sleeves. I'm okay for now. I

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Speaker 1: our draft yesterday and now my phone just going crazy

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Speaker 1: at least out for four weeks. So it's craziness right now.

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Speaker 1: the breezes and the wind kind of picking up. Kind

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Speaker 1: literal fall in. Yeah, one more week and then what

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Speaker 1: gonna happen. There you go. We got plenty to talk

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Speaker 1: about on the show and to help me do that.

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Speaker 1: It is one of my favorite guys on the interwebs

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Speaker 1: and in the fantasy industry. It is the one and

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Speaker 1: only Denny Carter. He is a writer at Rhodo World.

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Speaker 1: He is also the owner of draft Day Consultants dot com.

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Speaker 1: How about the show a couple of summers ago and

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Speaker 1: wanted to have him back then. He appreciate the time.

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Speaker 1: How are things in your corner of the world. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me on. Uh, you know, things are

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Speaker 1: are hot and humid as usual in Maryland. Um. You know,

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Speaker 1: You know. I don't know. I don't understand it, but

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Speaker 1: I'll pretend to for now. It's just it's just hot

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Speaker 1: the first question is Danny. I mean, I know people

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Speaker 1: But if you have drafted Leonard four Nett, what should

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Speaker 1: could who could be really really great for your team,

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Speaker 1: especially if you're in need of plug and play running backs,

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Speaker 1: if you if you go with a wide receiver heavy approach. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think the big takeaway is and I know this

429
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Speaker 1: is the basis of the zero RB theory when Sean

430
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Speaker 1: Siegel put it out those many years ago, because of

431
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Speaker 1: the fragility of the position, because guys unfortunately get injured

432
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Speaker 1: or even guys underperform, we will see a number of

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Speaker 1: running backs there. So I know that that is that

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Speaker 1: is the underlying theory, right that, because opportunities will present themselves.

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Speaker 1: There's always gonna be somebody out there that we don't expect,

436
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Speaker 1: and it's just about trying to find those guys, right Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And and it's it's also about being aggressive on your

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Speaker 1: waiver wire. You know that that's that's the key if

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Speaker 1: you're if you're going with this approach. You know, any

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Speaker 1: any running back who pops up on your waiver wire

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Speaker 1: who's going to see carries in the wake of an

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Speaker 1: injury to the starter on his team, Uh, you know

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Speaker 1: that needs to be your guy. You know you need

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Speaker 1: to you need to roster him. All right. I can't

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Speaker 1: have you on my podcast and not ask you about chickers,

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Speaker 1: because if there's another thing that is in your Twitter wheelhouse,

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Speaker 1: it is talking about kickers. And I know that there

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Speaker 1: are plenty of leagues where it's a down with kickers

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Speaker 1: and it brings the pitchforks and torches and all that

450
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Speaker 1: sort of thing. But in a lot of leagues they

451
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Speaker 1: are still a part of the game. One why should

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Speaker 1: we embrace kickers in fantasy football. Man. Another thing, I'm

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Speaker 1: very happy it's spread the word zer are being kickers,

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Speaker 1: thank you. Yeah, you know, so kickers are not a crapshoot,

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Speaker 1: you know. And I think that that's kind of the

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Speaker 1: the bad rap that position gets in fantasy is like

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Speaker 1: it's like any kicker could go off at any time. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, can we not say that about a lot

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Speaker 1: of positions and fantasy, but you know, statistically, you know,

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Speaker 1: kickers are a fairly predictable position, also very replaceable, you know.

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Speaker 1: And and so, um, I think that there's a misconception.

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Speaker 1: Like on Twitter, I see people saying, oh, you know

463
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Speaker 1: you so you take Justin Tucker every time you take

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Speaker 1: Harrison Butcker will Let's no, I mean I I do

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Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do, and I wait until the

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Speaker 1: last round and the draft a kicker the second to

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Speaker 1: last round. You know that there's really no reason to

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Speaker 1: to reach for a kicker. Um. But you know, the

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Speaker 1: the process for finding a weekly kicker is is pretty straightforward.

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Speaker 1: You wanna a kicker who is likely to see neutral

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Speaker 1: or positive game script. That means that the kicker will

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Speaker 1: be kicking field goals throughout the game, you know, and

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Speaker 1: and won't be in a position where his team is

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Speaker 1: chasing touchdowns in the third and fourth quarter. UM. And

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Speaker 1: you want a kicker on a productive offense UM usually

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Speaker 1: even even if that's his yardage. You know, we saw

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Speaker 1: last year the Tampa Bay Bucks were not very good,

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Speaker 1: but Matt Gay finished as the fourth highest scoring kicker

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Speaker 1: in Fantasy UM. So those, you know, those are the

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Speaker 1: things we look for, and I think they certainly should

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Speaker 1: have a place in the game. Do sleeper kickers exist?

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Speaker 1: I feel like sleepers in most other positions are gone,

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Speaker 1: but maybe there's a chance that sleeper kickers are a thing.

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Speaker 1: Is that possible? I think it is possible. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think that the most of the focus because you know,

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Speaker 1: people are not you know, grinding over over over kickers

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Speaker 1: and like you know, making cruciating decisions on kicker and that,

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Speaker 1: and that's fine. It is a very replaceable position, just

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Speaker 1: like quarterback in one quarterback leagues. UM. But people do

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Speaker 1: spend a lot of time on quarterback. Yeah, yeah, there

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Speaker 1: there are because outside of the top four or five options,

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Speaker 1: you know, there there will be guys who are in offenses,

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Speaker 1: kickers who are in offenses who put up a lot

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Speaker 1: of yards and put up a lot of points, and

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Speaker 1: we'll give them that opportunity. We're not looking for kickers

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Speaker 1: who make long field goals necessarily. We're not looking for

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Speaker 1: super accurate kickers, even which it sounds weird, but we're

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Speaker 1: just looking for kickers who have the most chances to

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Speaker 1: put up points. Um and and so yeah, there there

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Speaker 1: are some some sleeper type thing. It depends on how

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Speaker 1: into the position you are. I guess the pitchfork wielding

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Speaker 1: folks are are are are not into it. But but

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Speaker 1: if if you're not wielding a pitchfork, you know, Coup

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Speaker 1: from Atlanta is an example of a guy who I

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Speaker 1: think you know cud easily. He was number one kicker

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Speaker 1: and fantasy for the last six or seven weeks last year,

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Speaker 1: so I think he could emerge as as a top

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Speaker 1: kicker once again. So before I let you out, who

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Speaker 1: is the greatest fantasy football kicker of our lifetime? And

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Speaker 1: why is it? Doug Flutie? Oh that the drop kick

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Speaker 1: right man? You know? Um, I was a Dolphins fan

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Speaker 1: for a long time and uh and that that was

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Speaker 1: a dolphin and that hurt. That hurt because it was

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Speaker 1: it was making a mockery of the Dolphins like Phil

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Speaker 1: Belichick was sending it, sending out his his forty four

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Speaker 1: year old backup quarterback to go drop kick an extra

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Speaker 1: point or maybe it was Phil, I don't remember, but

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Speaker 1: and he did it, and Belichick's laughing, I mean literally

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Speaker 1: like a smile on the tech space. Very it was

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00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: a very surreal moment and a dagger to the heart.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, you might be right about Flutie. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: not only if you get you those kicking points that

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Speaker 1: one time. Uh, he gave you passing yard rushing yard

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Speaker 1: as well. Uh then it always appreciate the conversation. For

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Speaker 1: folks who don't know where to find your work, can

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Speaker 1: you give him just the rundown of where they can

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Speaker 1: find you? Yeah? Sure? Uh so I work for a

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Speaker 1: Rhoda World. I write a weekly piece there. Um. I

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Speaker 1: cd Carter thirteen on Twitter as well. Be good man.

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Speaker 1: We'll catch up again sometime soon. Thank you you too.

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Speaker 1: Predicting the future is hard. If over the course of

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Speaker 1: the season I get six of my calls, right, that's

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Speaker 1: a pretty good year. Six of people showing up to

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Speaker 1: be sure to register and to vote. This is your

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Speaker 1: the show. A good friend you know him. He was

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Speaker 1: on the show just a couple of weeks ago when

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Speaker 1: we did our Stronghold reunion, bringing him back to talk

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Speaker 1: about Madden NFL twenty one. Because it is that time

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Speaker 1: of the year. It is the franchise, Matt Franciscovitch franchise.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know I talked to you regularly via Slack,

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Speaker 1: but it's good to have you back on the show.

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Speaker 1: How have things been in the two weeks since we

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Speaker 1: last did this, Well, the last two weeks have been

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Speaker 1: a wild man Madden. You know, we were pushing the

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Speaker 1: Man release. It's now out available worldwide, So get your

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Speaker 1: hands on some Madden NFL twenty one. I know we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about it, but it's always good to be

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Speaker 1: back chatting with my pal Marcus. So that's probably for

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Speaker 1: those of you who don't have the Madden games. Stick

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Speaker 1: around to the end of the pod. We are going

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Speaker 1: to give away some Maddened codes for Xbox and for

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Speaker 1: PS four, so stay tuned. I will tell you how

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Speaker 1: to get in on that. But first let's just talk

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Speaker 1: about this, right. I mean, the trailer came out, it

570
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Speaker 1: was hot, it was fantastic. There are some differences in gameplay,

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Speaker 1: because we know every year the folks that e A

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Speaker 1: are trying to make this thing as realistic as possible.

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Speaker 1: One of the big things is the pass rush. I mean,

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Speaker 1: talk to me, what is different with the path rush

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Speaker 1: controls this year? Yeah, so controller wise you can do

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Speaker 1: you have more control on the right stick, so all

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Speaker 1: your pass rush moves you can do on the right stick.

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Speaker 1: That wasn't the case last year. It was more like

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Speaker 1: you had to mash buttons to do pass rushans. Now

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Speaker 1: it's on the right sticks, so you have more control

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Speaker 1: that way. The other thing they added, um pass So

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Speaker 1: defensive linemen have like a budget of the number of

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Speaker 1: pass rush moves you can make in a place. So

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Speaker 1: you see a little meter next to your player, and

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Speaker 1: if you use up all your pass rush moves on

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Speaker 1: like one or two plays, you won't have any left.

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Speaker 1: Because so the whole point is like you can do

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Speaker 1: like combo plays, but you want to do it strategically. Um.

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Speaker 1: So that's new. There's like a budget and you're limited

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Speaker 1: to a certain amount. Otherwise you run out Now on

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Speaker 1: the other side of the ball on the other yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: on the other side of the ball. The offensive lineman

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Speaker 1: actually have a new AI where they build resistance to

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Speaker 1: repeated moves. So like say you're it's a one on

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Speaker 1: one between like Joey Bosa and whoever. The offensive lineman

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Speaker 1: is the whole game and boast is just running the

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Speaker 1: same moves against the guy over the period of the

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Speaker 1: time of the game. As time goes by, that lineman

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Speaker 1: will learn, hey, he keeps going to my right side

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Speaker 1: with whatever pass rush moves it is, and he'll build

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Speaker 1: resistance to that. So we're gonna have legit on line.

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Speaker 1: The line battles in man, that's that's pretty sick. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. And the trench. As you know, as

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Speaker 1: a user, you're forced to sort of come up with ways.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you rotate your lineman in and on and off

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Speaker 1: the field, or you change them from an edge rusher

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Speaker 1: to a middle rusher so they're not having that one

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Speaker 1: on one um combination against the same player the entire game,

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Speaker 1: so you can limit that sort of resistance as the

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Speaker 1: game goes on. One of the other things I noticed

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Speaker 1: that defensively is that defenders in space, when they make tackles,

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Speaker 1: they will break down. Now it's sort of get into

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Speaker 1: form to make an actual tackle as opposed to look man.

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Speaker 1: I always felt like I was sort of diving aimlessly,

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Speaker 1: haplessly at guys, which sometimes works out, sometimes doesn't. I

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Speaker 1: feel like franchise this really changes things, not only defensively

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Speaker 1: but offensively. What does it mean if you're an offensive

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Speaker 1: player and suddenly you can't just make one, you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of half hearted move to get by guys, it

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Speaker 1: feels like this changes a lot of things now. Yeah. So,

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Speaker 1: so on the defensive side of the ball, basically, a

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Speaker 1: breakdown tackle is like a new way to attempt a

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Speaker 1: low risk tackle. So um Basically, both user controlled and

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Speaker 1: AI controller players use them. UM. So defenders sort of

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Speaker 1: anticipate contact by breaking down in front of the ball

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Speaker 1: carrier and they get themselves in a better position to

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Speaker 1: make a tackle. And they're only effective in front of

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Speaker 1: the ball carrier. So you can be like chasing a

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Speaker 1: guy from behind and do this. So that's on the

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Speaker 1: defensive side. On the offensive side, they added UM what

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Speaker 1: we're calling the skill stick, the right stick. So basically

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Speaker 1: there are new evasive moves you can train for and

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Speaker 1: practice mode and learn. So you know like juke and

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Speaker 1: hurdle and spin, you know all those moves, but there

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Speaker 1: are new moves called the slide hurdle. You can do

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Speaker 1: a dead leg now, and then if you practice enough.

637
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Speaker 1: The whole point is to chain these moves together and

638
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: make these crazy combinations of evasive moves to try to

639
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: UM evade these breakdown tackles. So if you get the

640
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: timing right and you do practice mode enough and then

641
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: you take it into the real game. You'll see some

642
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: crazy gameplay highlights, um from the ball carriers with those

643
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: combo moves. Now a little bit of sort of inside baseball.

644
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: I know that we because we talked to you. Uh,

645
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: you don't. You don't give away anything of what's going

646
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: to happen, but you always tell us every now and

647
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: then that something is coming that you get really excited

648
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: about without kind of giving away the game. Uh, you

649
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: sort of dropped the hint about something and you guys said,

650
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: you call it the yard. No idea what this is about.

651
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: Please explain to us what is the yard and why

652
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: should we be excited about it? Yeah, So the Yard

653
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: is a brand new mode in Madden. Um it's six

654
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: be six sort of people have compared it to like

655
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: NFL Street. It's not NFL Street, but at six P

656
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: six inspired by like backyard football, Like where did all

657
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: the NFL stars you see today, like learn how to

658
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: ball out and learn all these moves in the backyard

659
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: playing football with their friends. Um, So that was the

660
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: inspiration behind it. So it's six verse six. You can

661
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: play with um, you can play solo with with one

662
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: buddy or two buddies against other people. Online, and there

663
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: are crazy you can like hurdle like three or four

664
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 1: times in a single play. You can have like thirteen points.

665
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 1: You can score thirteen points on one play. There's these

666
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: crazy moves where you can like jump off a guy's

667
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: leg and go get the ball. You can like throw

668
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,439
Speaker 1: the ball behind your back or under your legs. There's

669
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 1: these crazy gameplay animations that have never been in Madden before.

670
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: And all the games take place in these new locations.

671
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: So there's like a tailgate outside of Lambeau Field. There's

672
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:53,439
Speaker 1: a location in Berlin, Germany. They're all like, um, fake locations. Um,

673
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: there's there's one called Miami Port and we're gonna be

674
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: adding these global locations to play. The fields are different sizes,

675
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: there's like house rules, it's not like your traditional football.

676
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: And then the other cool aspect of the yard is

677
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: you build an avatar to represent yourself. Um. So it's

678
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: a really cool new mode and we're excited to see

679
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: some you know, what people do with it. So how

680
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: many years have you been at e A now franchise?

681
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: About two and a half. Okay, what has it been like?

682
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: Because I know every year the game comes out, it

683
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: gets bigger, it gets more exciting. What has it been

684
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: like for you kind of behind the scenes and watching

685
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: the excitement build when we get to August, that has

686
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 1: to be pretty awesome. Yeah, it's really fun, man, because

687
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 1: the development team behind the scenes, they're working on next

688
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: year's game, like already right like we're we're pushing out

689
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: a game, They're already thinking about what's going to be

690
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: in the game next year. So it's a long haul

691
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: to get this to this like week where we actually

692
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: launched the game and it can be out in the

693
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: world and people are streaming on twitch. Um, but then

694
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: you always get the there's like about a week or

695
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: two and the game drops and there's some hugs and

696
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 1: some glitches in the game that you see people post

697
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: videos of, and it's like there was a one crazy

698
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: level bell glitch a couple of years ago where he

699
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: just like sprinted like sixty yards up the field and

700
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: like the blink of an eye. So those are kind

701
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: of funny, but it also like everyone's like, oh, like,

702
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 1: man is broken, but it's like, just give it some time,

703
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: like they're working out the kinks. Also, you have to

704
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,240
Speaker 1: understand the development teams are doing this all from home,

705
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: which is like next level challenging. Um. So, like, you know,

706
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: we put out a game, but like they need the

707
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: developers need all kinds of crazy equipment to like really

708
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,919
Speaker 1: make this game the best it can be. And they're

709
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: doing it all from home right now. So it's been

710
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: a huge challenge with the quarantine stuff and trying to

711
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 1: get this out. So you know, give them the benefit

712
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: of the doubt on Twitter, don't be mean to our

713
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: developers and just try to have fun playing. Man, It's

714
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: about having fun and not being negative. So you know,

715
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: there is a little bit of negativity, but we try

716
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: to we try to rise above and you know, do

717
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 1: some would giveaways and stuff, and we we got some.

718
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: We got some stuff up our sleeve in the next

719
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ROUNDFL kickoff, So keep an eye out.

720
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: Oh that's awesome. Um. Any truth to the rumor that

721
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is going to be on the advanced PR

722
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: team for next year's game? Oh man, when he he

723
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to leak that. It was like several weeks

724
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: before we were supposed to name him as our cover athlete,

725
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 1: and he leaked. He leaked it on like a zoom

726
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: call with some media and then the Ravens tweeted it,

727
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: and we were like, it was just it sucked because

728
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: we were like planning this big we were planning this

729
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 1: big reveal and he just said it and they just

730
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: tweeted it. So that was fun. But we've overcome the hurdles,

731
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: and you know, there's always challenges with these things, and

732
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 1: it's more about how you adapt in the moment and

733
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: really dwelling on how crappy it might be that the

734
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: leak came out. So yeah, I'll let you know the

735
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: listeners peek behind the curtain here. I mean some of

736
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: us that the Stronghold, we have our own sort of

737
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: personal slack channel that we keep up with each other

738
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: in and knowing when we're in the getting close to

739
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: Madden season, like franchise is buried, so he might not

740
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: be in the slack channel nearly is often, So I

741
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: don't think we had heard from him for a couple

742
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: of days, and then the Lamar Jackson League happens and

743
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 1: he just comes real rampaging in the slack with like

744
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: several angry messages and then just like poof, like Kaiser

745
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: Soze just disappears again for a couple more days. That

746
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: was that was actually kind of funny. Um Man, that

747
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: was a good time for yeah, us time. I know that.

748
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: I know that was stressful for you, but for us, Yeah,

749
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 1: we we got a good laugh out of it. Um.

750
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: Another big part of the Madden game. I mean, obviously

751
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: the gameplay is big, ratings, all that kind of stuff,

752
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: But I feel like another big part of it, especially

753
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: the last few years, has been the soundtrack and the

754
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: music that goes along with it. And I know you

755
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: are a music guy. You were you know, you worked

756
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: in the music industry before you started doing football stuff.

757
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: How much of the soundtrack have you had a chance

758
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: to go over? I mean, I know what Anderson Pack,

759
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: Rick Ross are some some a couple of big names

760
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: on this soundtrack this year. Yeah, that Anderson Pack Rick

761
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: Ross song is the standout. Like I got that one

762
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: on repeat, like when I'm working out and stuff. Um

763
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: there's another song called Automatic by Jack Harlow, which was

764
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: in our reveal trailer a couple of weeks ago. That

765
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: one's a banger. Um there's some other I'll be I'm

766
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: gonna be honest, I haven't heard. I don't know who

767
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: all the artists are because we're Yeah, yeah, like some

768
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: of them are up and coming artists. Um. But one

769
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: cool thing that the music team at e A is

770
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,760
Speaker 1: doing with the Madden soundtrack the last two years now,

771
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: all the songs on the soundtrack are created or curated

772
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: specifically for at the game, So like you'll hear lyrics

773
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: that are about NFL players or just about football in general,

774
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: and the song titles and stuff I'll relate to football

775
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: or winning or you know, just just name references and

776
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So it's cool because it's like custom.

777
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: These aren't songs that are already out there. They are

778
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: exclusive to the Men soundtrack and made just for us.

779
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: So that's pretty cool. And little teaser, be on the

780
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: lookout for new songs to be added to the soundtrack

781
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: throughout the year this year. Nice. It makes me feel

782
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: better when you say you don't know all the artists,

783
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 1: because I mean, you're a music guy. Your wife still

784
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: works in the music industry. I'm just kind of an

785
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: old so like sometimes I look at them and I'm like, Hi, well,

786
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: you know this is what the kids are listening to,

787
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: so I get so when you say it, it it makes

788
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: me feel a little bit better. I know, in real life,

789
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 1: you are a Pittsburgh Steelers fan, But I gotta ask,

790
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,959
Speaker 1: are you do you use the Steelers on Madden? Who

791
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: is your Madden squad? Look? Man, I I'm I am

792
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 1: a die hard Steelers fan, but I cannot come on

793
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: this podcast as an honest man and tell people to

794
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: go use the Steelers in Madden because you're just not

795
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,439
Speaker 1: gonna You're just not gonna win that way. I'm gonna

796
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: be honest with you, guys. So I'll give you some

797
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: of the top teams that you could probably win a

798
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: lot with if you use in Madness year. So the

799
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 1: top two most obvious ones are the Chiefs because Patrick

800
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: Mahoe Homes He's got he can do it all. You know,

801
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: run outside, the pocket is throwing, the run is crazy.

802
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: He's got a superstar X factor. And then you throw

803
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: in like Travis Kelsey and Tyreek Hill and guys like that.

804
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill, I think is the fastest receiver in the game. UM.

805
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 1: So it's just a combination of skill positions there on

806
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: the Chiefs to go nuts. Then the Ravens obviously our

807
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: cover athlete Lamar Jackson like he's he's a game breaker. Um.

808
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 1: Their run game, their ground game, the Ravens is unstoppable.

809
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: And then you look at the team like the forty Niners,

810
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: they're great defense. Uh, you throw that in there, and

811
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: then they have they rely on the play action passing

812
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 1: game a lot. That can grind you out some wins,

813
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: keeping your opponents on your toes at the play action.

814
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: And then the Buccaneers, you got a little Tom Brady

815
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: back there, you got it, some big wide receivers, he

816
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: got Grunk, you got Mike Evans, like the Bucks might

817
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: be one of those sleeper teams in Madness year where

818
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,919
Speaker 1: people are just racking up scores, just just those those

819
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: big red zone bodies. And then, uh, the Cardinals are

820
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: probably my low key favorite game because Kyler Murray can

821
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: can get the ball out. He's got DeAndre Hopkins. They

822
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: got Kenyan Drake back there. Um. And then two underrated

823
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: teams Raiders and Bengals, might be sleepers this year because

824
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: the Bengals are always a sleeper because John Ross has

825
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: great speed. Um, So if you use that correctly and

826
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 1: then throw a little Jil mix in and there, you

827
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: can you can win a few games. And then, as always, right,

828
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: we're gonna get the weekly Madden Rating updates, right, as

829
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: guys do things in real football, we usually see that

830
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: corresponding rise or fall in in Madden Football correct exactly.

831
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 1: And by this time year, there should have been maybe

832
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: a couple ratings updates already from preseason games, but we're

833
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: not having those, so we won't get those probably to

834
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: a week one and we see what happens on the field.

835
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, they update the ratings every week, and they

836
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: change the Superstar X factor abilities as a season goes. Um,

837
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: so there's they're always sort of changing ratings abilities and

838
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Well, and you know you talked about

839
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: the ratings changes. I'm guessing that that your developers are

840
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: at home scrambling now with this Leonard four net News.

841
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: I would think they got they got some things to

842
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: go right now. Oh for sure, man. And it's like

843
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: I've I've I slack with the guy who does the ratings.

844
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: His name is Dustin, and he's he said, it's been

845
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: a really challenging to do this from home, so it's, uh,

846
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: it's not as easy as it was when they were

847
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: in office, but they're still getting the job done. And

848
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: you know it, really people need to play video games

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