1 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: Philly Show is presented by Fox One. It is Monday, 2 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: October thirteenth, twenty twenty five. How is everybody? Ruben Tomorrow 3 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: Junior is here, Jim Salisbury the man in the middle, 4 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: and then there's me. I'm Todd's a lucky hard to believe. 5 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 2: But if over, that's hard to believe that I know, right, 6 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 2: Like I was talking to somebody today saying, it's just 7 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 2: crazy to think, you know, we're recording this on Sunday night. 8 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: It's crazy to think that, you know, I would be 9 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: in Milwaukee right now. Maybe I should should be in 10 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: Milwaukee right now for them. It should be for the 11 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 1: Nation League Championship Series. 12 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 3: And the season's over and I'm still picking peppers in 13 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 3: my garden. That's just too early for the season to 14 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 3: be over. 15 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: That is too early for the season to be over. Instead, though, 16 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: we are going to talk today about out who the 17 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: Phillies might bring back, who is probably gone, all those things. 18 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: Let's go. It's time for the Park's First Pitch. First 19 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: Pitch is brought to us exclusively by our partners at 20 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 1: Parks Casino, Pennsylvania's number one casino. So I sent Reuben 21 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: and Jim a little bit of a thought exercise this weekend. 22 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: I said, let's let's maybe talk about some of the 23 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: guys who might be back, some of the guys who 24 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: might not be back, because we kind of all agree that, well, 25 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: I shouldn't. I don't put words in your mouth. 26 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 4: Don't put words in my mouth, do you. 27 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 1: I feel like this team needs to make. 28 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 5: Okay, massive little ones, bold, be bold, make big changes. 29 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 4: Why not. It's time to retool and rebuild, rebuild. 30 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 5: You can rebuild by keeping some of the some of 31 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 5: the core people around, but retool major operation. 32 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: I feel the same way. I feel like they've got 33 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: to do something. 34 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 4: I got fired because I didn't retool early enough. Retool, retool. 35 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, hey, this this era is over. 36 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 4: This era is over. 37 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 5: It doesn't mean that this era can't start again and 38 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 5: next year another era, but the era these folks should 39 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 5: start again. 40 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: So I asked, So I asked. I gave like fifteen players, 41 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 1: and I said, rank these guys in order of most 42 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: likely to return to least likely to return. It's kind 43 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: of an arbitrary list. I'm gonna give everybody the list 44 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: real quick. Uh it is Jose Alvarado. This is all 45 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: in alphabetic order. Jose Alvarado, Harrison Bader, Alec Baum, Nick Castianos, 46 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 1: Bryce Harper, Max Kapler, Ryan Kirker and Brandon marsh ernol At, JT. 47 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: Real Muto, Kyle Schwarber, Bryce and Scott Rangers, swear As 48 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: Tree Turn and Taiwan Walker. Did not include some guys. 49 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: Jordan Romano didn't put him on the list, David Robertson 50 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: didn't put him on the list, Matt Strom didn't put 51 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: him on the list. Out of camp those types of guys. Uh, 52 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: you know you could if you think we should have 53 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,679 Speaker 1: included some of these guys, you can tell us in 54 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: the YouTube comments Jim and Ruben if you think that 55 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: will be comments. Oh yes, but Jim, what do you 56 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 1: think they gotta make some significant moves? 57 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you need to change the mix. They 58 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 3: acknowledged that last year they tried to change the mix, 59 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 3: and really we're not able to It's going to be 60 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 3: difficult to make to me significant changes. I mean, I'm 61 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 3: sure you could just not resign a couple of your 62 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 3: big free agents like Schwarber and real Mudo, though that 63 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 3: would be a significant change. But I don't think they 64 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 3: want to go that route. I just think because you 65 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 3: got some big, big, three hundred million dollar guys with 66 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 3: no trade clauses in your in your core, it's gonna 67 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 3: be very difficult to move. And then I just wonder 68 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 3: about the value of some other play. But you know, 69 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 3: they'll they'll make some tweaks, they'll make some changes. They 70 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 3: might aim big on one particular change or and we'll 71 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: see if they get it done. But yeah, you can't 72 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 3: report to clear Water with the same group. 73 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: Uh. 74 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 3: And we'll see if those changes extend even beyond the 75 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 3: playing roster. But definitely need to change the mixed fresh 76 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 3: and things up. You know, when the Yankees had their 77 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 3: their great run nine two thousand, every year a new 78 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 3: face came in. Every year, a new face came in. 79 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 3: Climbings came in one year, who else, Knob Block came 80 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 3: in one year, Kevin Brown, I think, came come in 81 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 3: one year, a Ron came in after that. But during 82 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 3: their their great run, they there was always that new 83 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 3: guy that came in with a hunger for a ring. 84 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 3: And obviously the Phillies have that hunger. They haven't gotten there, 85 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 3: but they were even though they're successfully changed that mix, 86 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 3: and I think it helped keep things fresh. So we'll 87 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 3: see how big the mixing bowl is here, but they 88 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: do need to break it out and do some mixing. 89 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: Who do you think, Todd, I think they have to 90 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: do something big to show. You know, Jimmy make a 91 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: great point. I remember in the spring of two thousand 92 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: and nine talking with pac Illock about how Ruben decided 93 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: to move on from Pat Burle. And I remember pack 94 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: Gillick telling me, I am a strong believer that even 95 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: when you win, you need to bring in fresh blood 96 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: to kind of keep things fresh. And so Ruben, you 97 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: decided not to bring back Pat Burle. You brought in 98 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: Raoul Raoul Banyas. And I do remember having that conversation 99 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: in the food room down in clear Water with right 100 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: outside the food room at Baker Ballpark with pack Illock 101 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: about this. I was in in ninety three. It was 102 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: a Paul Monitor and and you know Ricky Henderson or 103 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: a camera who was all on those squads who got 104 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: brought in when but they made he made big trades 105 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: and brought in new guys, and. 106 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 3: He traded traded. He traded Tony Fernandez and his wife 107 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 3: yelled at him because I was like her favorite player. 108 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 3: That's that right, or Fred McGriff. Maybe videos Fred McGriff. 109 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 3: I think it was Fred McGriff now that I think 110 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 3: about it. But Fernandez, I think I think he thought 111 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 3: Fernandez was stale, and he traded McGriff and his wife said, 112 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 3: that's my favorite player. She yelled at him. She yelled 113 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 3: at him. So anyway, this is going to be a 114 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 3: fun thought exercise to use Todd's words. But and that 115 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 3: was first pitch and it's presented exclusively by our partners 116 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 3: at Parks Casino, Pennsylvania's number one casino. Parkscasino dot com 117 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 3: is the website. He must be twenty one to participate. 118 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 3: And if you have a gambling problem called one e 119 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 3: H gambre. 120 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 4: That's it. 121 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 6: This week's Arena Club Slab pack pull. We opened a ruby. 122 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 6: We went big. 123 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 4: They're doing undred and fifty dollars pack. 124 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 7: That was you know what the nerves got me. I 125 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 7: think it was so exciting because the motion and waits 126 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 7: about four or five seconds for the card to come up. 127 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 7: Card that I got was over three hundred dollars a 128 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 7: prospect from the mariners and for me, I love the card. 129 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 7: I thought it was great. Guess what I sold it back? Yeah, 130 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 7: And I got a little more money, and now I 131 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 7: can go buy another one. You have to wait a 132 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 7: couple of minutes afterwards. And this is the excitement, the 133 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 7: whole thing. Put your money where your mouth is and 134 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 7: have fun with Arena Club. 135 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 6: You can see that big smile on Todd Father's face. 136 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 6: Lazarero Montes, who's. 137 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 4: Supposed to be good. 138 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 6: He's Baseball America Top three, He's in the Mariners organization. 139 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 6: But Todd Father sometimes thinks prospects or suspects sometimes going 140 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 6: back to the well and we'll see what he gets 141 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 6: next time. Use the code foul foul at Arena club 142 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 6: dot com slash foul if you want to get in 143 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 6: on the first slab pack experience and get twenty percent 144 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 6: off or twenty percent off your first card purchase. 145 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: We are back to Philly. Show is brought to you 146 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: by Fox One. Guys, it is Monday, and yes, the 147 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: Philly season is over, but there's always time for some Za. 148 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: It's time for the Manco Manco first Yeah, Zach Za. 149 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: We love the Za Manco Manco first pitch. Every week 150 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: all season, we have picked the best Phillies player play 151 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: performance of the season. We thought we'd be doing this 152 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: a little bit longer with some Phillies highlights. But here 153 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: we are, guys, so let's run through it. Does anybody 154 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: want to get started? Do you want me to get 155 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: us started? I can get started, make it happen, I'm 156 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 1: going to say. And I think people understand where I'm 157 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: going with this. I'm going to say, o Ryan kirk 158 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: Ring for standing up and talking to reporters after the 159 00:08:55,080 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: game after probably the worst moment of his life, certainly 160 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: of his professional career. And I thought it tuck. I 161 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: thought he handled himself really, really well. And like I said, 162 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: long after that in the clubhouse, he had tears in 163 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: his eyes, his eyes were swollen, his eyes were red. 164 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: I mean, this obviously was just a devastating moment for 165 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: him in his life. He's going to carry it forever. 166 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: But I give him all the credit in the world 167 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: for coming out and standing up and talking about that 168 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: that terrible moment. So I'm going with Ryan Kirkring for 169 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: just doing something I don't you know, maybe some people 170 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: couldn't do, maybe some people wouldn't have done, but he 171 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: did it. 172 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 3: Good pick, man, that's a good pick. He should showed 173 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 3: a lot of character. I'm gonna go the night before that, 174 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 3: not a lot to cheer about on the Philly side. 175 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 3: In this series, they're starting pitching was pretty good and 176 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 3: in Game three, Aaron Nola and Ranger Suarez teamed up 177 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 3: for seven innings one run. Good performance kept him alive 178 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 3: for a night. Give us everybody a something to hope 179 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 3: for one night. So you know, I'm going to give 180 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 3: them a you know, maybe you know they can split 181 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 3: piece of pizza. 182 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 4: They should split. 183 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 5: Hey, I got to go with my man Jesus as 184 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 5: Susan Lozardo. 185 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 4: I think he did a hell of a job. 186 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 5: He pitched extremely well in the two outings out of 187 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 5: the pen once and the rotation on Game two pitch 188 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 5: really well. 189 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 4: Also, pitch really well. 190 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 5: Out of the bullpen, and frankly thought he should probably 191 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 5: stay in there before the ill fated happenings later on 192 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 5: in that game that took the Phillies down. But I 193 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 5: don't know all the numbers, but I think he pitched 194 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:44,719 Speaker 5: really well, a lot of confidence and it's going to 195 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 5: help him moving forward. He's got a chance to be 196 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 5: one of the best left handers and a duo of 197 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 5: lefties in this rotation for at least another year or two. 198 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 5: For the Phillies come twenty twenty six, in Christopher Stanchez 199 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 5: and Lozardo, he gets a large slice, maybe a double 200 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 5: slice of the pie for the two outings. 201 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 3: Really, you make a really good point. He's got a 202 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 3: chance to be you know, really, I mean he I 203 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 3: think he probably proved a lot to himself this year one, 204 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 3: staying healthy too, having a career high in innings. I 205 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 3: think those could be really good springboards for him going forward. 206 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: Absolutely. So okay, guys, let's let's jump into jump into this. 207 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: We ranked fifteen players. Jim sent me his list, Ruben 208 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: sent me his list, and I put my list together, 209 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: and let's start most likely to return those fifteen players 210 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 1: I mentioned, this will be no surprise. Bryce Harper fifteenth 211 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: on the list in terms of most likely to you know, 212 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: at least whatever, most likely to return in twenty twenty six. 213 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 4: Bryce, I him at fourteen. 214 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 3: I had him. 215 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: Hear there you go, Yes you did? You had And 216 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: Trey Turner was fourteenth on the list. None, none of 217 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: not really surprises with either two of. 218 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 5: Those guys, because the contracts are tough to move. 219 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 3: There's no trades. He's Harper, ye not, They shouldn't consider 220 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 3: them you have to be open. 221 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 1: Everything is what you're saying. 222 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 3: Everything be bold. 223 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 4: I would wide open, man, be wide open. I know 224 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 4: they got no trades. 225 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 5: And it's likely that they will not go anywhere. But 226 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 5: I wouldn't close any doors, not a door. If I were, 227 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 5: I would not close any doors. 228 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 4: I would leave them. While all wide. 229 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: Open doesn't hurt to tell people that you listen to anything. 230 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: Somebody might go crazy and give you somethings like wow. 231 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 5: That ingenuity, man ingenuity exactly so. 232 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,599 Speaker 1: Bryce Harper fifteenth on the list, Trey Turner fourteenth on 233 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: the list. Thirteenth on the list. Philly's right hander Aaron Nola. 234 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 3: We all go that way. 235 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: Let's see, I had thirteen yes, he finished with nine points. 236 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 3: I had thirteen too. They need the pitching depth, and 237 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 3: he's over a lot of money and coming off and 238 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 3: down yere, he's gonna be tough to move. 239 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,719 Speaker 5: It'll be tough to move with all the money associated 240 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 5: with also so as a combination, but I like having 241 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 5: Nola around because they do need the depth and they 242 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 5: got other monies up coming off the books. 243 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 1: So number was it? Where we fifteen, fourteen, thirteen, twelve, 244 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: twelve on the list? Math is not my strongs. You guys, 245 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: I got all these I have. 246 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 8: All these pages over math. It's called math. Math is 247 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 8: not my rithmetic number twelve though we are all on 248 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 8: the same wavelength again, really with twelve points, we all 249 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 8: picked Bryson Stott. 250 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 4: Wow, that's crazy. 251 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: Bryce and Stott. Who's who's gonna be a free agent 252 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: after twenty twenty seven, so they have two more years 253 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: of team control. 254 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 3: Uh. 255 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: He hit at a six thirty seven ops before the 256 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: break in eight fifty five ops after the break. It 257 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: sounds like we are all believers in his mechanical adjustments 258 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: at the plate in the second half and his ability 259 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: to maybe carry that into twenty twenty six and be 260 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: that player Rubin, you and I I know we're high 261 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: on him in our preseason shows. I think I said 262 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: he was going to hit three hundred and make an 263 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: All Star team. 264 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 4: And I said he's going at a chance to win. 265 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 4: I don't know. 266 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, he has that type of potential. 267 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 3: But I'm a believer that he's still relatively inexpensive and 268 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 3: Edmunds and monito Y conservats of productive tandem. I mean 269 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 3: he and his value is I mean, the adjustment was great, 270 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 3: showed a lot of promise, but they need some inexpensive 271 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 3: pieces to make contributions, and that's a pretty good platoon, 272 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 3: so I'm not in a rush to move off. 273 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 5: I also believe that the quality of his infield play 274 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 5: in the middle of the field, second base or shortstop 275 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 5: is essential to the quality of eighteen, So I don't 276 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 5: not move on from him. 277 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: Strength up the middle man, I'll erect I love his 278 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: correct to Lindo correct ed Mundo. Mundo's buddy number eleven 279 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: on the list, Brandon Marsh. Brandon Marsh free agent after 280 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven. He struggled in the first half, came 281 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: on strong in the second half at three oh two 282 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: and eight eighty one ops after the All Star break. 283 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 3: I had him more down towards the middle. 284 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you had him down toward the middle. I had him. 285 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: I had him a little higher. 286 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 4: I had him at eleven. 287 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 3: Yes, I got Schwara at eleven. I think you know, 288 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I only knocked him down to 289 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 3: eleven because I think he's a free agent. You never 290 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 3: know what could happen. But I also think he's going 291 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 3: to be back. 292 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think the one thing there is 293 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: if you're going to get creative. Possibly is if they 294 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: decide Justin Crawford is ready to make the opening day 295 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: roster and we're gonna run out there and play him 296 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: every day. 297 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 4: Is there is? 298 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: Are they too much of the same guy, especially if 299 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: they feel like Justin Crawford is better left fielder than 300 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: a center field I don't know. I mean, I'm just 301 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 1: trying to run through some scenarios where. 302 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a mark. 303 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 5: I got Marsha at eight right field, you can put 304 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 5: Martia and right field, and I got. 305 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 4: Some other people in right field that should be gone. 306 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: Right right, so so and then okay, so this might 307 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: make Phillies fans feel good. Not that we have any 308 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: say in whatever anything that Phillies doing the off season, 309 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: but number ten on our list, Phillies designated hitter, Kyle Schwarber, 310 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: we all feel that he will be coming back more 311 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: than not in twenty twenty six. Kyle Schwarber. 312 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm a closer to seven, but same idea. 313 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got him eleven. 314 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: Go ahead, yep, So Kyle Schwarber, Okay, what. 315 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 4: I think he will be back. 316 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 5: I think he's got a seventy five to eighty percent 317 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 5: chance of being back. 318 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: I think so too. I mean, you know, it'll be 319 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,880 Speaker 1: interesting to see what kind of contract he gets. You know, JD. 320 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: Martinez and Spring this few years ago now got five 321 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: to one ten, So you know, is he going to 322 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: get four to one, five one, fifty, four to one twenty? 323 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: Tell you what, I saw him swing that bat in 324 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: Game three of the NLDS at Dodger Stadium. That looked 325 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 1: pretty quick to me as he launched it out of 326 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: the ballpark. 327 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 4: Not getting any slower. 328 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: He's not getting any slower. He's absolutely not getting ay slower. Okay, 329 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: So number nine on our list Phillis catcher j T 330 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: real Muto. So we think JT is kind of he's 331 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: kind of more likely to return than not in our 332 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: minds at lee, at least compared to the other players 333 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: on this list. And I think he is more likely 334 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: than not to return because if you look at the 335 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: other free agent catchers on the list. No, when people 336 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: get upset about JT's offensive performance the first half of 337 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: the season or whatnot, it's like, be careful what you 338 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: wish for, Be careful what you wish for. 339 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 5: NA are talking about Adlie getting Adelie Rushman and stuff 340 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 5: like that, because he's going to be on the block. 341 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 1: Well, if you look at Adlie Rushman. 342 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 5: You're gonna have to give up a lot. And Adlie 343 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 5: did not do so well in Baltimore. 344 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, and all. 345 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 5: Right now I'll take just on face value, I'll take 346 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 5: JT over Adlie. 347 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 4: In spades. 348 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: But what about the fact that and I agree with 349 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: you rubin too many different It's a no doubt JT. 350 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 1: Real mutto to Your deal makes so much sense for 351 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: the Phillies eight. You know, Catcher in his mid thirties 352 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: catches one hundred and twenty five hundred and thirty five 353 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: games every year. But I mean, you tell me that 354 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: the Podres or the Giants or one of these other 355 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: teams aren't going to go. They only gave you two years. 356 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: We'll give you three, and then the Potters Giants give three, 357 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: I'll give you four. I would doben Jim. 358 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 5: I could do all I could possibly do to keep 359 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 5: it to two. I would choke on three, and I 360 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 5: would not do four. Okay, how about that. 361 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 3: Looks for me? 362 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 4: I mean it makes sense, will not do four? 363 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: It makes sense. It makes sense. So okay, that's that's 364 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: nine on our list. Number eight on our list is 365 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: somebody that they tried to trade last off season but failed, 366 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: and that is Alec Boom. Alec Boom free agent after 367 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 1: next season. I don't know if that changes the you know, 368 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: changes the what is. 369 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 5: This the arbitration projection, like fourteen or fifteen million. 370 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: I'd have to take a look at that. 371 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 5: I know they've run some some of those model. I 372 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 5: think he's probably between twelve and fifteen million, because I 373 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 5: think he made around ten or eleven this year. 374 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 3: He let me take give me eight change. 375 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, you made seven point seven million dollars, 376 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: so you. 377 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 4: Probably make somewhere around ten or eleven next year. 378 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I would keep my mind open. 379 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: To bring back. 380 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 3: I have. I have him as my mind. 381 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 5: Open on moving anyone I trade my mom for make 382 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 5: us better. 383 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 3: Remember that I have him closer to the to the 384 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 3: uh back half where you know, leaning toward won't be back. 385 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 3: I got him at like six. I actually have Taiwan 386 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 3: Walker at nine for the same reason you know I 387 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 3: mentioned earlier debt pitching depth. I mean I got him. 388 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 3: I'm leaning toward him being back because they need pitching depth. 389 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 3: You don't know what Noel is the stage coming off 390 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 3: this year? You got Wheelers going to be slow out 391 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 3: of the gate. The guy you know did a credit job. 392 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 4: I got him as one. He's gone. 393 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 3: You got him a number one. Wow, we different. 394 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: I was gonna bring this up. Well, hold on, guys, 395 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, right after Alec Bohm. Alec Bohm 396 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: was eight on our list, Taiwan Walker was seven on 397 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: our list, and Jim and I were about the same. 398 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: But Ruben, you had a number one most likely to 399 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 1: be gone? 400 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 4: Now would I wouldn't. 401 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,719 Speaker 3: I wouldn't sneeze if somebody's gonna pick up all eighteen 402 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 3: million dollars, that would there's a lot of value in that. 403 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,920 Speaker 4: And that another I think he's got another year. 404 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got yeah, four years. 405 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 4: This next my apologies. 406 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 5: And because my ignorance is the reason why, then then 407 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 5: he's uh, he's probably closer where you guys are. I 408 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 5: did not know that. I thought that his contract was over. 409 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 3: Now somebody would take that eighteen million, I'd say, here's Pitcher. 410 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 4: I'm right with you. 411 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 5: I'm right with you on the number, as is the 412 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 5: the the likelihood of him going. 413 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 3: But you know, the depth is where that we love 414 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 3: the pitching staff, but the question marks and that depth 415 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 3: is gonna have value at least out of the gate. 416 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 3: So we know what we're getting on a couple of guys. 417 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 4: Anyway, Yeah, he's he's protection. 418 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: Okay, So we're now down to seven and there was 419 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: a tie for fifth. 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Here 449 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: is our top five, tied for fifth couple of relievers. 450 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: We have Jose Alvarado and Oryan Kirkering. Jose Alvarado has 451 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: a nine million dollar club option, and I think the 452 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: only reason why Orian Kirkering is this high on this 453 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,239 Speaker 1: list is we just wonder, you know, is he going 454 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: to be able to bounce back from that moment in Philadelphia. Now, 455 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: I had somebody say to me, well, maybe they'll cheer 456 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: him on early in the season like they did for 457 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: Trey Turner. A couple of years ago, and I could 458 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: see that. I think that would be the right thing 459 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: to do the first time he comes in. It'sits in 460 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: Bank Park. If he's with the team next next season, 461 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: is give him a standing ovation, show him the love, 462 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: like you know, hey, we love you. But if there 463 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: are some tough times, I could see it turning ugly quick. 464 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, you know, is this a 465 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: Mitche Mitch Williams type of situation. 466 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 4: I think he's gonna be okay, man, I do. 467 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 3: I hope so he'll definitely he will get a huge 468 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 3: standing ovation on opening day if he's back. 469 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 4: And I hope he does. He's a pretty good picture. Man. 470 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 4: He just said he did not reach his potential this year. 471 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 4: But there's more to come with this guy. I think 472 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,719 Speaker 4: he's better, much better than yeah. I mean a decent season. 473 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 5: Obviously, he had a really rough finish. But I think 474 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 5: he's a pretty good picture. I know he didn't do 475 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 5: very well in a hurry of runners. 476 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 4: He's good. 477 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 5: I think he's a young guy. 478 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 4: Still, he's got upside. 479 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: Still, he's a free he's not a free agent until 480 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: after the twenty and he's cheaper, and he's cheap, so 481 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: you're giving up on an arm like that, you better 482 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: get something pretty nice in return. What about Alvarado? Though 483 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:53,679 Speaker 1: that's a nine million dollar club option. He got suspended, 484 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 1: missed half the season, he finished the season injured. 485 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 3: Doesn't you know that's the thing I'm worried out the flexer. 486 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: Yes, I mean, I don't know what. I don't know 487 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 1: what the metal. 488 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 5: I had him at three because there's a couple of 489 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:08,959 Speaker 5: awards going on. 490 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 4: I like the guy a lot. 491 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 5: I think i'd like like to bring him back. I 492 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,479 Speaker 5: still he's got arm strength. He's going to pitch well 493 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 5: for somebody next year. But it doesn't blow out at 494 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 5: some point, that's. 495 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 3: Right, Like sometimes that's that that flexer can be like 496 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 3: the precursor or something. You hope it's not you're knock 497 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 3: on wood. You hope it's just a little stiffness. But 498 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 3: I'm sure that medical people are already digging in on that, 499 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 3: and they know they know the arm better than anyone. 500 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 3: So but we'll see you. 501 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: I had him the lowest on my list in terms 502 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: of most likely return more than you guys. I just 503 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: felt that a one year, nine million dollar deals coming 504 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: off that stuff. You know, one year contract you can 505 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: eat if he blows out, you know you're not He's 506 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: not doesn't have three years left or four? 507 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 3: What did you have him? What number? 508 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 1: I had him six? Actually I just thought because. 509 00:26:59,200 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 3: I got him seven. 510 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: The bullpen and yeah, the bullpen issues that they've had, 511 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: just be tough to give up on a guy that 512 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: throws ninety eight ninety nine one hundred miles an hour, 513 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: so on a one year deal, on a one year deal, 514 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: nine million dollars. You know he needs some fire down there. Like, yes, 515 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: they do, they need I saw a lot. 516 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 3: Of ninety ones towards the end of the season and 517 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 3: they really missed Alvarado. 518 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 1: They need some strikeouts. 519 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 4: I'd like to have them back. 520 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 5: To me, it's a matter of whether or not the 521 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 5: man is going to be healthy. I'm not worried about 522 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 5: the the ped stuff. Don't care about that. 523 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: Okay, number four on our list. He brought a lot 524 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: of energy this year. Brought a lot of fun for 525 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: a couple of months. Phillies center fielder Harrison Bader. Harrison 526 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: Bader has a mutual option for twenty twenty six. But 527 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: as I said, we talked about this a few weeks 528 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 1: ago on the show, there has not been a mutual 529 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: option exercise by both sides, the team and the player. 530 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: In yeah, at least the last three or four off seasons. 531 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: I mean, mutual options never get picked up, never get 532 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: picked up. And if I'm Harrison Vader, because the Phillies 533 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: would jump at a one year, ten million dollar deal 534 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: for Harrison bare They'd be like, please, thank you Jesus. 535 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: But Harrison Bader is probably going I just played my 536 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: butt off. I had my best year offensively in several years. 537 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: I play a great center field. I'm not going to 538 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: settle for a one year, ten million dollar deal. I 539 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: might be able to get two for twenty or whatever 540 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: the number is, so I I you know. So for 541 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: that reason, I wonder if he'll be back now if 542 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: he declines it. How comfortable are you guys in terms 543 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: of bringing him back on a multi year deal. That's 544 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: what he's looking for, Like are you I'm not okay? 545 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: Why I would not. 546 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 5: Do a multi multi year deal. The back of the 547 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 5: card means a lot. 548 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's pounced around in four years, he's bounced around, 549 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 3: He's been released once. He had a great stretch. You know, 550 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 3: I don't know if he can duplicate it, but I'd 551 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 3: love to have him on a one year deal, two 552 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 3: year deal, I'd probably I'd probably let him go. And 553 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 3: if you have a need for him next year or 554 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 3: the year after, he trade for him again. I don't know. 555 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 3: I'm kidding, but one. 556 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 5: Year twelve, one year thirteen after that, I'm done. 557 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 3: One great right. And I think he I think he 558 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 3: also to himself to try to get. 559 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 5: More, so yes, he'd be getting Yeah, I think he'd 560 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 5: be crazy to pick up his side of the option 561 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 5: and just settle for one year ten. 562 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: I think if I'm him, I'm going in and trying 563 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: to get a multi year deal somewhere. So for that reason, 564 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: he finished fourth in our list and number three. And 565 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: I don't think this is a real big surprise. But 566 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 1: Max Kepler, I WoT. 567 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 3: Him number one on my list. He is most likely 568 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 3: not to return. I see no way that he returns. 569 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 5: I don't blame I don't blame you. I had a 570 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 5: tall too, but not that tall. 571 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, yeah, I mean he you look just a 572 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: real disappointment. I know he came on a little bit 573 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: towards the end, a little bit towards the end of 574 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: the season in that platoon role. He kind of tapered 575 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: off at the end. But Rubin, you said back of the. 576 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 5: Baseball I mean they have Marsh and they have Crawford, 577 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 5: another lefty. I think they're you know, if they had 578 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 5: a choice, they're just gonna have Crawford play left and 579 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 5: maybe Marsh play right if Casianos isn't back, and see 580 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 5: what they're do in center, or they'll just have to 581 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 5: play center field because I don't think Marsh will play 582 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 5: center every day. 583 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 3: Thompson. Thompson did a good job. Kevin Long did a 584 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 3: good job getting Kepler to the finish line because we 585 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 3: thought he was gonna get released with two months tog know, 586 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 3: they got up to the finish line. They got some contributions. Handshake, 587 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 3: thank you. 588 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: Yep, and Audio mentioned the back of the baseball card. 589 00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: Four out of his last five seasons uh ops plus 590 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: under one hundred remillions, he provided below average, below league 591 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: average offensive production. Who's been a below average league offensive 592 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: player for four out of the last five seasons. I 593 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: don't know why you would expect him to all of 594 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: a sudden bounce back next season. 595 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 3: Okay. 596 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: Number two on our list is Nick Castianos. He is 597 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: entering the fifth year of a five year, one hundred 598 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: million dollar deal. He finished the season with negative point 599 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: six war according to Fangrafts. That's one hundred and forty 600 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: fifth out of one hundred and forty five qualified players 601 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: in Major League Baseball. So by that metric, he was 602 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: the worst player in Major League Baseball defensively, negative twelve 603 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: outs above average. That was tied for six worst amongst 604 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: all players defensive players in baseball. You know, he had 605 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: his thing with Rob in June and Miami. He had 606 00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: his thing with Rob in in Arizona. Talking about lack 607 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: of communication just seems like I'm just yeah, go now 608 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna say it. Just seems like to me, if 609 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: this is time time just to move, move, go on 610 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 1: your separate way, go your separate ways. 611 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 5: And I don't know whether the organization will eat twenty 612 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 5: million dollars, but if that's what it takes, I mean 613 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 5: they obviously you want to try to move him. And 614 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 5: if he wants to go back to Miami, where his 615 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 5: home is, and they take up a lot of a 616 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 5: ton of the money and let him go out there 617 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 5: and play at home, maybe that's the thing. 618 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:33,479 Speaker 4: I don't know. 619 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got him Actually three on my list I 620 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 3: at Suarez number two. 621 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 5: I have Suarez number two only because I had Walker one, 622 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 5: because the only. 623 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 4: Reason about his contract, the. 624 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 3: Only reason if Castiano's three is because you just don't know. 625 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 3: I mean, because he's owned twenty million. That's a lot 626 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 3: of a lot of money. But okay, I see them 627 00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 3: be willing to eat fifteen ish to you know, make 628 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 3: a deal there. They've tried to trade him every off 629 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 3: season he's been here, and I think this is the 630 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 3: one they will finally eat enough to get it done. 631 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 3: There was some interest I hear from Kansas City. That's 632 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 3: the deadline. Maybe that's a team to keep an eye on. 633 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: There, you go, that would be interesting. Yeah, I mean 634 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: they did try to trade him in the off season 635 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: each of the last two off seasons. I know Nick 636 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: said he in the in spring training him every city. 637 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: He reached out to Dave and Dave said that's that's 638 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: not true. 639 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 4: But open and open eyes, open ears. 640 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: And open eyes, Yes, and number one on our list. 641 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: I don't think Phillies fans will be happy about it, 642 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: but we added all the numbers together and Rangers swore 643 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: as is the least likely Philly to be back in 644 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. Boy, it would be great to bring 645 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: him back, But I can guarantee you this, Scott Boris 646 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: is his agent and he's going to be shopping him 647 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: as the best starting pitcher available on the free agent market. 648 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: I would almost bet my life on that that will 649 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 1: be the pitch that Scott Boris is going to be making. Uh, 650 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: not only his regular season performance, but he's gonna go 651 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: Do you know has a one point four to eight 652 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 1: year ra in the postseason, sixth best of all postseason 653 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: pitchers qualified postseason pitchers of baseball history or rangers swarez. 654 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 3: Did you see what he did in the bright lights 655 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 3: of Dodgers Stadium? Scott will be saying that at the 656 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 3: GM meetings, you're. 657 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 5: Clicking his chops when he's back there watching him from 658 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 5: behind the. 659 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, he Ranger can handle the bright lights of Dodgers Stadium. 660 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 4: So here's the thing. So here's the thing. There is 661 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 4: a way he comes back. 662 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 1: Give it to us, homeboy, the old low contract. 663 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, one year deal, which Scott invented. 664 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 4: I think that's a possibility. 665 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 5: I don't think that ultimately he's going to get He's 666 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 5: not going to get signed till probably about March fifteenth, Okay, 667 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 5: because I don't think that anybody's going to jump up 668 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 5: and pay this guy because or pay the guy the 669 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 5: six or seven year deal that Scott Boris might want 670 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 5: and equating him to uh, you know, the guy in 671 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 5: New York just signed through Max Freed. He's not gonna 672 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 5: he's not gonna get what Freed got because he doesn't 673 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 5: have the durability right and doesn't have the track record 674 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 5: as far as innings are concerned. But you know, they're 675 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 5: trying to get like a glass Now type of contract, 676 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 5: Like was that five years? Maybe a little north of 677 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 5: you know of glass Now. I don't think they'll get that. 678 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 3: I look at you. 679 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 4: I don't think anybody's gonna give him that deal. 680 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 3: Look at he. 681 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 5: Might sign a Pillow contract as a result, but somebody. 682 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 3: Look, I look at the Mania AA V twenty five million. 683 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 3: He's so much better than Mania. So now it becomes termed. 684 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,439 Speaker 4: I don't think he's gonna get five years. How about that? 685 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: You don't think so, I don't Pillow contract. 686 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be shooting for six or seven right. 687 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a big number, man, for a guy that 688 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: has never been able to stay healthy. 689 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 3: Remember, remember when Arieta Arietta was a free agent, he 690 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 3: was a Scott Forrest guy, and the word was he 691 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 3: wanted seven early in the offseason, and somebody in the 692 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 3: Phillies organization says, there is no way we're signing Jake Arietta, 693 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 3: no way, and then they ended up signing him with 694 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 3: his his ask cut down to three years. Right, So yeah, 695 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 3: maybe maybe it's similar. 696 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm fascinated by that one. 697 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 5: That's gonna be fascinating because it's him and Franburg val Valdez. 698 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 5: As far as lefties are concerned, that's it, right, That's 699 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 5: all all she wrote. 700 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 3: I think I could see the Mets and Dodgers both 701 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 3: being in on him. 702 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: On Ranger, I could definitely. I mean, the Mets need 703 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 1: to do something to address to starting pitching, and that 704 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: would be a hell of a thing to do. Have 705 00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: Steve Cohen swoop in and take Ranger from John Middleton. Yeah, 706 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,399 Speaker 1: but you can't sign everybody. You can't bring everybody the 707 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 1: back that you want, especially if you are going to 708 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 1: prioritize Kyle Schwarburn j t Ryumuto, who based on our 709 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 1: rankings we think is more are more likely to be back. 710 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,240 Speaker 4: No, doubt are more likely to be back. 711 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: Than Rangers, Suarez and a lot of these other players 712 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 1: on the list. So no doubt it's gonna be It's 713 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: gonna be an interesting offseason, guys. 714 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,399 Speaker 5: It will be a fascinating not interesting, it will be fascinating. 715 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I I you know who it is. 716 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 4: It is going to be cathartic. I think in a 717 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 4: lot of ways. 718 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,399 Speaker 5: I think that they need to really shake it up, 719 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 5: I mean significantly, and if you have to move a big, one, 720 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 5: big contract, I think that they should consider it. 721 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 3: Were talking shake it up like ric Ocassik and Benjamin 722 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 3: Or of the. 723 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 4: Cars, right, Yes, that's exactly what we're thinking. Yeah, worst 724 00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,760 Speaker 4: concert of all time. They didn't do anything. 725 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 3: Wait, it's funny you said that. I saw them in 726 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,479 Speaker 3: high school and they just stood there everybody. They didn't 727 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 3: a concert, but a great band. The Cars were a 728 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 3: great band. 729 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 4: Okay, great band, but terrible concert. 730 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:11,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, they were a boring concert. 731 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: So both of you guys saw the Cars in concert 732 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,240 Speaker 1: and both had the same opinion of them. They sucked. 733 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 3: They were like cutout cardboard cutouts. Thank you, But I 734 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 3: saw them. I saw them in high school. I actually 735 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 3: bought a t shirt or one of those, you know 736 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 3: with the black arms and the three quarters and had 737 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 3: the tire tracks on the back. The cars forever. 738 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 4: Uh, they were literally like dead October. 739 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:47,280 Speaker 1: Cars. That's so interesting. That's so interesting because their videos 740 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: were so great back in the The videos were good. 741 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 3: They were very creative. 742 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, they were creative, but they were they didn't do anything. 743 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,440 Speaker 3: Sometimes I actually get on a little, I get a 744 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 3: little like on a car's kick. I'm at the gym 745 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 3: and I play them a lot. 746 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 1: The cars are great. 747 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 3: I love even some of that like New wavesh stuff. 748 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 4: I'm not talking about the music now. 749 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,800 Speaker 3: Panorama, the New Waves stuff they had. It's good stuff. 750 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 4: That's awesome. 751 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: That's awesome. So well, I think I think this was fun. 752 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: We had fifteen Phillies ranked them all to the end. 753 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,320 Speaker 1: Again our top five least likely to return. 754 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 5: I think we'll get significantly picked apart by our fans. 755 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 4: I love it. 756 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,439 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, I mean this is this is part 757 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,919 Speaker 1: of the exercise. How can you have Ranger number one 758 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 1: versus Alvarado or Kirkering. I mean that's that's the whole 759 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: point of this. 760 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 4: That's the whole point. 761 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely. So we had again we had Ranger one, Castiano's two, 762 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 1: Max Cupper three, beit or four and tied for fifth, 763 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:48,479 Speaker 1: where Alvarado and Kirkering most likely to return. Top five 764 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: was Bryce Harper, Tray Turner, Aaron Nola, Bryce and Scott 765 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: and Brandon Marsh. But right behind them, guys where Kyle 766 00:39:55,000 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: Schwarber and JT. Real Muto. So maybe that maybe maybe 767 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: it'll actually work out that way and we'll have those girls. 768 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,240 Speaker 1: Never never know, you never. 769 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 3: Never never know. 770 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 1: We will have a lot of people have been putting 771 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:10,960 Speaker 1: in the YouTube comments. 772 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 4: Thanks so much. 773 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,399 Speaker 1: I can't wait for next year. We'll see you guys 774 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: next year. We're not going anywhere. We're talking Phillies all 775 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 1: winter long. So all you Phillies fans that you know 776 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 1: are gonna turn on the radio or open up the 777 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: newspaper and not see, you know, Phillies coverage or Phillies talk, 778 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 1: you can come keep coming back to the Phillies Show. 779 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,959 Speaker 1: We will be here every week doing shows, talking about 780 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: what's going on in the off season, having lots of fun, 781 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 1: having some laughs. 782 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 5: We'll get some guests on too, Don't think we're not. 783 00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna have some guests on throughout the off season. 784 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: So we're gonna have a lot of fun. Uh So, 785 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 1: please keep coming back and checking out The Phillies Show. 786 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:54,359 Speaker 1: Don't forget The Phillies Show Shop dot is open, scan 787 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: the QR code on your screen if you're watching on YouTube, 788 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 1: or just go to the Phillies Show Shop dot com. 789 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 1: We've sold some hoodies because it's getting to be a 790 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: little chilly outside. Coffee mugs, Yeah, I got some coffee 791 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: mugs we've been selling. So guys, we'll be back. 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