1 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: The Lease One Bills Live, presented by Called Light of Health. 2 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: All right, how the heck you're doing here on a Tuesday, 3 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve tasking with you. One Bill is live 4 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: back in the saddle. Good to be back after a 5 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: little hiatus there. Um, I'm not gonna lie. I had 6 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: to get out of the weather. Yeah, I had to 7 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: do it. I couldn't couldn't take it anymore. Really missed 8 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: out because we had six hours of sunshine over the weekend. 9 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: You didn't, You had no part of it. So yeah, 10 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: I think I did our right on the sunshine quota. 11 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, it was good just to get out of 12 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: the weather a little bit. I missed the earthquake though, 13 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: How about that? That was a real thing. Yeah. I 14 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: mean I saw some footage online and stuff because I 15 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: was checking, you know, I got cameras at my house. 16 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, let me check the house, like 17 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: what's going there? Dying tipped over anything? And he noticeable 18 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: it was that was Lancaster and what was it West Seneca? Yeah, 19 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: you were. You were closer than I was, like eight miles. Yeah, 20 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: it was. Yeah, it was a big deal. It was 21 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: a big deal. It looked like it was one big 22 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: bang though it came through like that. Yeah, it came 23 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: through like that. And it sounded to me, and I 24 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: said this yesterday, it sounded like a big explosion off 25 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: in the distance because you heard it. And he you 26 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: know Europe was that, Yeah, it was. You couldn't like, 27 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: I guess some people did miss it, Like my son 28 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: was on a bike or a peloton or whatever, so 29 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: he he didn't feel it didn't go through like So 30 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: there was a ways you could miss it, depending on 31 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: how far away you were in what the situation was 32 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: in your house. But if you were like it was 33 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: six to fifteen, six sixteen in the morning, shake out 34 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: lane in bed, yeah, you couldn't miss it. You couldn't 35 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: miss it. Yeah. I mean from the footage I saw, 36 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: it looked like it was just one really like maybe 37 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: there was some rumbling, but then there was a bang 38 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: like a yeah. And the tweet that I laughed at 39 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: when I was cruising around social media to find anybody 40 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: that had footage, this guy says, you know you live 41 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: in Buffalo when you have an earthquake and you think 42 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: was that the snow plow the snow plow hits somebody's 43 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: mailbox or a tree, lamppost sounded like a plow or something. Yeah, 44 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: and we've all been there, I mean, yeah, so it's 45 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: that's true. So you knew something happened. I said, I 46 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: was looking for a fireball. I thought a plane went 47 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: down or gas truck went off. Uh, you know the 48 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 1: you know, the end of the world, world coming, you know, 49 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: off in the distance. I don't know it was. It 50 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: was it was too big to be ignored, too big 51 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: to be but it was. It was fast, right, you're 52 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: talking what ten seconds? Not even for me. It's felt 53 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: like it was three two or three tops and it 54 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: because like I said, it was it was like felt 55 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: like an impact. So it was gone, yeah, um, crazy stuff, 56 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: crazy stuff it you know, but it was I think 57 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: we have a seismology center over it ub. Yeah, so 58 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: they probably measured that. What was the final number? Somebody 59 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: Canada say was four point two? We said it was 60 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: three point eight something in there, but it was and 61 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: it was well, they do use the metric system, so yeah, 62 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: the exchange rate, the the from what I've heard, there 63 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: are also all the people the geology community is thinking 64 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: is because of the Turkey earthquake that sent rumbles the 65 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: world like literally because it was the Earth to the 66 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: other side or around the around the trust, you know, 67 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: like a like a ripple, yes, like a ripple effect. 68 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: I saw an animation of where the seismologies, the what 69 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: the size my seismographs were stationed throughout the world and 70 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: you could see the wave come across at the time, kid, 71 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: and it was so the it was a big and 72 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 1: if you haven't seen it, it's pretty horrific what happened. 73 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: It is um and it's it was a horrible tragedy collapses, 74 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: but it was a result of that, and it was 75 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 1: you know, that makes part of it, you know. And 76 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: we're not even on the edge of a fault here, 77 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: you know, I mean maybe a small round up here, 78 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: but not not like the San Andreas or something. But 79 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: you know, so it was it would take something like 80 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: that to have that happen here. Taking me back to 81 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: my days of earth science and plate tectonics, remember earth 82 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: plate tectonics. Oh, I can't tell you anything else after that, 83 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: there was a remember what it was called, right, U. 84 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: But that's you know where we're at. So, yeah, you 85 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: did miss that. I did. Were you in the air 86 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: like flying? I was? I was, Yeah, that was what 87 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: was that Sunday or Monday morning, yesterday, morny morning, yes, 88 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: good morning. Yeah, I was still on the ground, but yeah, yeah, 89 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: that was. That was wild, wild, wild wild, because you 90 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: don't have that here very often. That was you missed it. 91 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, like I want to say, there 92 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 1: was one like a little minor shaker, like fifteen twenty 93 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: years ago or something, but I'm be hard pressed to 94 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: remember exactly if that's right or not. I don't know 95 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: why that's sticking in my head, but I could be 96 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: completely off on that. When I was a teenager, I 97 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: remember I got shook out of bed down on Long Island, 98 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: and that was a longer one. That was like fifteen 99 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 1: twenty seconds. Like my lamp on my nightstand was shaken 100 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: and it was rattling, and that's how I was, and 101 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: then the bed's kind of going like shaking a little bit. Um. 102 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: That was the only one I've been through, So yeah, 103 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: certainly not like those major ones they have out west, 104 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: so they can and they can have them quite I don't. 105 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: I don't need any of that stuff. You're gonna have 106 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: all of that. I'll take the snow here any day 107 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: of the week. You can have your tornadoes, your earthquakes, 108 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: your mud slides, your hurricanes. I'll take the snow any 109 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: day of the week. So yeah, but crazy that had happened, 110 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 1: because it doesn't. As we said, it doesn't happen that 111 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: often around here. Earlier this morning, Jesse Pagoula, daughter of 112 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: Terry and Kim Pagoula, the pro tennis player, had a 113 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: written kind of like an open letter type thing on 114 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: the player's tribune. We've seen Dion Dawkins participate in that space, 115 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer was very open about his alcoholism that in 116 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: that space, and so Jessica Pegoula put together a piece 117 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: that said, I want to talk to you about my mom, 118 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: and it basically outlines all of the progress that Kim 119 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: has made since she unfortunately sustained cardiac arrest, and just 120 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: some amazing details provided by Jesse, you know, because the 121 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: family understandably has chosen to keep things private, but Jesse 122 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: felt she had to get this off her chest. And 123 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: I mean it was. It was very well written, very 124 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: well laid out, not only in terms of what has 125 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: happened to their mom, but I think more importantly, I 126 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: thought it very effectively encapsulated what the family has been 127 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: dealing with for almost a year now, just with Kim's 128 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: recovery and everything that's been involved in that. So just 129 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: some really telling things that just make you feel the 130 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: weight of what they've been dealing with. I've had conversation 131 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: with I had a conversation with Terry about you know, 132 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: some of the things that when you and let's face it, 133 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: Kim and Terry, you know, bought the bills, bought the sabers, 134 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: and you get a lot of things when you buy 135 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: a business. Sometimes you get a lot of stuff you 136 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: don't sign up for. And one of the things you 137 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: don't sign up for is that um, people right or 138 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: wrongly whatever your whatever your position is on And I'm 139 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: not gonna take sides now, but they think like you're 140 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: kind of public property. And the thing that they forget 141 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: is how much of a family the Pagoulas are. Uh, 142 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,839 Speaker 1: they're great, Um, Kim, Terry, their kids, they've all been 143 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: great and they and they when you get to you know, 144 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: when you get in behind that they're a loving family. 145 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: And they wanted to handle this like a family wants to. 146 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: They don't want everybody to know what's going on. They 147 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: didn't want to you know, to be a public conversation, 148 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: and it took months and months before you know, Jesse 149 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: felt like she was in the position. And I'm sure 150 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: she you know, got the blessings from her family just 151 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: you know, to let everybody know what had happened. And 152 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: kudos to them for handling it as well as they have. 153 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: But um, I feel we all feel for him, so 154 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: happy to know that Kim is on the mend and 155 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: that there are better days ahead for all of them, 156 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: and we wish they bet their family the best, because 157 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: that's yeah, and that's I guess my point is that 158 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: you forget that they're a family and they're not celebrities. 159 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: They're not public figures really per se. There they own 160 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: a very prominent business. So the things you get for 161 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: something you gets sometimes and you don't sign up for 162 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: aren't all that attractive sometimes. And they've handled it extremely well, 163 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,719 Speaker 1: So good to them, good for them, will continue to 164 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: keep them in our prayers and and kudos to them 165 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: for how they have handled this from from now start 166 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: and finished. And you know, among the details that we 167 00:09:51,559 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: found was Kim's other daughter, Kelly, essentially performed CPR on Kim, 168 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: which was I mean Basically, Jesse credits her sister with, 169 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: you know, saving her mom's life. It's just it's dramatic, 170 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: dramatic stuff. I mean, it was a heavy read, you know, 171 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: when Kim is dealing, as Jesse points out, with a 172 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: phasia expressive aphasia, which is when cognitively you know everything 173 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: that's going on, whether you're having a conversation with somebody 174 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: or you're interacting with another person, but the words don't 175 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: always come to you to express whatever response you have 176 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: in mind. So it's not considered a cognitive problem. It's 177 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 1: a language problem. And you know that's what she's been 178 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: working on from what we understand based on what Jesse 179 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: has said in terms of you know, getting back to 180 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: a place where you know she can you know, conduct 181 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: conversations like she always has. You know, whether she'll ever 182 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: get to that point, you know, remains to be seen. 183 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: I guess the best news is that she's making daily 184 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: and weekly progress, So we wish are the best on 185 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: that course, and I hope she does get to her goal, 186 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: which is probably carrying on conversations just as she always had. 187 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: So our best wishes again to the family on that 188 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: as there you know, this is anytime a family's dealing 189 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: with a health issue, it always weighs on you heavily, 190 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: which which is what struck me. You know, Jesse mentioned 191 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: one thing when they say one day in the hospital 192 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: equals a week to recover, that is no joke. And 193 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: she's talking about everybody that's dealing with the sick person 194 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: or the unhealthy person. It's the other family members that 195 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: are there supporting that person that are mentally and physically 196 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: exhausted just from stress, worry, time spent you know, sleeping 197 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: in a chair in a hospital room. That's the stuff 198 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: that wears out the people that are trying to be 199 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: there for their family members. So that's why I felt, 200 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: you know, Jesse did such a good job encapsulating everything. 201 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: Yeah and as yeah and as uh as we've said, um, 202 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 1: now at least and because there's been a ton of people, 203 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: you know, sending their thoughts and their prayers to the 204 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: Pagoula family, now they can know the details and be 205 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: more specific in those thoughts and prayers. So good. Um, 206 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: So we're all in a better spot maybe perhaps today 207 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: than we were. Right So again, as Steve said, you know, 208 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: we continue to pass our well wishes onto the Bagoula family, 209 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: not just Kim, but all those people that have been 210 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: carrying this like Jesse Um, which is why she had 211 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: to get it off her chest. I mean totally understand why, 212 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: and just amazing. The year that she's had in tennis 213 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: despite all of this, is that unbelievable that it's unbelievad 214 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: happened right when she cracked the top ten. She climbed 215 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: all the way to number three during this time. So 216 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 1: that's been awesome to see. It's made me a tennis fan. 217 00:12:56,040 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: So um she's been She's been thriving and doing well 218 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: in the midst of a great hardship that's tough, much 219 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: much like the city of Buffalo has. So it's well, yeah, 220 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: and you know that's what That's what brought it all 221 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: full circle for the Pagoula family when the Damar Hamlin 222 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: thing happened, because it was pretty comparable to what they 223 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: experienced in their own family, and now it happens in 224 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: the extended family with DeMar. I can't imagine what was 225 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: running through Terry Pegoula's head that night in pay Core 226 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: Stadium in Cincinnati. It's got to be crazy. So yeah, 227 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: the good news is both parties are on the end, 228 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: so we just hope that continues going forward. We want 229 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: to get to NFL news and notes. So we go 230 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: around the NFL Now, which is presented by Kalid to Health, 231 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: the official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills, and we 232 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: begin with the Minnesota Viking, Steve, who now have a 233 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: new defensive coordinator in Brian Flores, now a former Steelers 234 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: defensive assistant and former Dolphins head coach. I think there's 235 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: a good hire for Minnesota. They needed help on defense, Steve. 236 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: That's the thing that costs in their season. They were 237 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: thirty first in total defense, twenty eighth and points allout. 238 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: You can say what you want and and and maybe 239 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: true they didn't have, you know, great personnel, but I 240 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: don't think they had thirty one the thirty first worst 241 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: defensive roster in the league. You know, certainly they weren't 242 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles or the San Francisco forty nine ers 243 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: or even the Buffalo Bills, but they were better than 244 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: thirty first in the league. And so Brian Flores, who 245 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: is a highly respected leader and a defensive mind and 246 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: former head coach, obviously the Dolphins is going to go there. 247 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: That's I think that's a great higher from Minnesota, great 248 00:14:55,560 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: higher for Minnesota. With Flora's taking that job as defensive 249 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: coordinator with the Vikings, it takes him out of the 250 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: job for the Cardinals head coaching post, which now is 251 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: down to two candidates. It's essentially Giants OC Mike Kafka 252 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: and Bengals defensive coordinator Lou and Rumo. So those are 253 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: the only two guys left for that job. Yeah, we're 254 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: cheering for in Rumo to go to the well the Conference. Yeah, yeah, 255 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: we are. He's a really good defensive coordinator and you 256 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: know you're gonna end up playing the guy if he's 257 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: in the AFC with Cincinnati. Are you surprised, Brownie, because 258 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: I know we'll get to it in a minute. Maybe 259 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: we'll that the Cardinals are still without a head coach, 260 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: and so were the Indianapolis Colts. Yeah, there is a 261 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: part of me. This is not a usual time frame 262 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: to get these guys hired. Yeah, there's a part of 263 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: me that's wondering if there's someone from the two Super 264 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: Bowl teams staffs at Arizona might be interested in. But 265 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: I would have thought they would have interviewed him, right, 266 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: You know who I mean, I don't know. I mean, 267 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: I mean you can go down the Eric B. Enemy 268 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: path again. I'm just throwing out names here, so yeah, 269 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: you know, I I don't know. It could be anybody, um, 270 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: you know the Eagles staff, I mean there's people there. 271 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: I was just wondering like what could be the hold up, 272 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: and that to me might be one of the only 273 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: things I can think of that maybe there's somebody on 274 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: one of those staffs that they want to talk to. 275 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: And I'm not even familiar from down deep mind Eric B. Enemy, 276 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: we've heard being here in about for a couple of years. 277 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: I don't even know who on the Eagles step. I 278 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: don't even know they're coordinators at this point to to 279 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: know who's been doing because I hate to say it, 280 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: but I get it, Nick Siriannie's getting a lot of 281 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: credit for what's going on in Philly, but man, oh man, 282 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: they got some horses over there. Yeah. I mean the 283 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: DC Jonathan Gannon was mentioned in certain places, and he's 284 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: a young guy, so too is their OC Shane Steike 285 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: And who was working in LA with the Chargers then 286 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: moved on to the Eagles with Siriani. I know their 287 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: offensive line coach Jeff Stoutland has been interviewed for a 288 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: couple of coordinator positions because he's only an offensive line 289 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: coach slash run game coordinator. But to my knowledge, you know, 290 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: they're not hiring people away from Super Bowl teams. So yeah, 291 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know who. It was, just 292 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: a guess because we're waiting a long time here for 293 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 1: this to come together, and I you know, I'm sure 294 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: there are other things that could hold it up. You 295 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: could have something as simple as you know, contract language. 296 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: Maybe somebody's agreed to terms and they're trying to cross 297 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: teas and dot eyes. That could be it. I know 298 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: that you were always curious about whether or not Arizona 299 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: could lure an offensive coach to come in to work 300 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray. And right now you've got Kafka, the 301 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: OC from the Giants, as the only offensive candidate, and 302 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: then obviously Anna Rumo, who's you know, a defensive minded guy, 303 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: as the other candidates. So yeah, what are they waiting for? 304 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: You got me? I don't know. I don't know what's 305 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: keeping them from finalizing that there and this, you know 306 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,959 Speaker 1: few I'm not saying it's the reason, but it fuels 307 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: the speculation that I've made over the course of the 308 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: last couple of months or two that there are some 309 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: guys who know, thank you these jobs. Certainly there's a 310 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: certain level of guys who would take it at any 311 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: for any reason, for at any right they wanted, They 312 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: would love it. But there's a lot of guys, you know, 313 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 1: guys like Sean Payton who just took the Denver job. 314 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: You could see a coach of his stature say no 315 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: to something. But I think that line drops down even 316 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: into some pretty good coordinator spots, where these guys say, 317 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:14,719 Speaker 1: I want to take a job where I can be 318 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: successful in because if I go, I'm gonna get a 319 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: I'm gonna, you know, have this job for three or 320 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: four years, and we're gonna get We're gonna stink, and 321 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be fired. And then then what am I 322 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: gonna do? Yeah, then I'm gonna take a step back 323 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,479 Speaker 1: and then I'm back to coordinating again or whatever. I 324 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: think there's a number of or at least at at 325 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: any given point in NFL. It changes obviously from year 326 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: to year, where there's guys who will say, uh, I 327 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: don't know, particularly the prominent candidates I think. I mean, 328 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: I realized this is kind of an obvious point, but 329 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: I kind of thought all along that the Cardinals we're 330 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: gonna have to hire a first time head coach because 331 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: getting some of these veteran guys to say yes to 332 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: what I see as a tenuous situation. Did you well, 333 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 1: did you don't see it? Did you catch the Sean 334 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: Payton remarks about Russell Wilson. Oh, yeah, see, so Russell Wilson. 335 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: Here's Russell Wilson had an office in the Broncos facility 336 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: and his personal coach was there. Now, I don't know 337 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: whether the guy was a coach coach. I know he 338 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: said he was a coach, but I don't know where 339 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 1: he was an a personal assistant or whether he was 340 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: a you know, this guru, a mechanics coach, or nutrition 341 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,479 Speaker 1: or practice. What do I care if? I don't even 342 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: know if the guy was a nutritionist or what he 343 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 1: might have been. You know, I don't know. But he 344 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 1: was in the building and he was Russell. He was 345 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: on Russell's pay you know, payroll, not the Broncos payroll. 346 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: So at his introductory press conference, Sean Payton was asked 347 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: about Russ's personal coach, and he said, basically, he said, yeah, 348 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: that's not gonna fly. That's it's gonna be us, our 349 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: players and our staff, and that's gonna be all who's 350 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: in the building. So Sean Payton just fired Russell's entire staff. Well, 351 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: at least he's preventing access to the building so the 352 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: guy will not be in the building. So we heard 353 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: some stuff this last season when Russ you know, you know, 354 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: he had fewer touchdown passes than bathrooms in his new house. 355 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: We heard, you know, that kind of thing. So Russ 356 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: would Russ was flexing a little bit in the building, 357 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: I think, and Sean Payton's coming in saying, nah, that's 358 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: that's we're doing. We're not doing that, which is I 359 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: think an absolutely proper, on correct move to make Peyton's 360 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: former team. The Saints hired a new defensive coordinator in 361 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: Joe Woods, who was fired at season's end in Cleveland. 362 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 1: Woods not a bad deal to walk into. He's inheriting 363 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: a top five defense that finished ninth in points allowed Cleveland. 364 00:21:55,760 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 1: The defense he coordinated was fourteenth in total defense and 365 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: you know, twelfth against the past twentieth in points allowed. 366 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: Browns couldn't stop the run. Last year they were twenty 367 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: fifth against the run, but that was also a problem. 368 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 1: In New Orleans they were twenty fourth against the run, 369 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: not much better. Hard to know what that defense is 370 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: gonna look like, knowing the Saints are about fifty seven 371 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: million over the cap. And I also read this head 372 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 1: coach Dennis Allen is going to be calling the plays 373 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: on defense. So the scheme remains and Joe Woods comes 374 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: in and he's just gonna be holding a clipboard. He's 375 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: not even gonna be calling the plays. He'll probably be 376 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: he's gonna listen, he's not gonna he's be doing more 377 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: than that. But yeah, on game day he probably will 378 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: have a voice in what's going on, but not be 379 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: calling the place. First, game planning is vast, is a 380 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: you know, an ongoing process. He's gonna be neck deep 381 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: in that for sure, and personnel decisions, all of that stuff. 382 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: Dennis Allen, though, we'll be calling the plays. And that's 383 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: I get that, and I'm all about that. I think 384 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: a head coach should be calling the offensive plays or 385 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: calling the defensive plays. You know, really, yeah, because for instance, 386 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: say that say this is the way it isn't in 387 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: Kansas City, Andy Reid. If he if Eric Bienemy is 388 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: calling the plays and he gets all this credit for 389 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: how good this offense is. Pretty soon he's coaching the 390 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals or the Indianapolis Colts or the Carolina Panthers. Well, 391 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: now you got to find another guy. But if your 392 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: head coach is doing that, at least you have your 393 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: play caller somebody there who's who you're not gonna get 394 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: totally gutted. Your offensive coordinator goes there to coach, Your 395 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator goes there to coach. Now we were in 396 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: the AFC Championship game or the Super Bowl this year. 397 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: Now we can't get back because I gotta redo the 398 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: top of my entire staff. So I'm I'm all about 399 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 1: having a head coach on game day, having some important 400 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: responsibilities so that you know the guy, so that he 401 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: doesn't lose those guys two hires when when the team 402 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: becomes successful. So I'm I see the value in that, 403 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: particularly in Kansas City where you got Pat Mahomes and 404 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: you don't want that guy, and we hear the Buffalo 405 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: has done it. Now you can make the conversation, you 406 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: can make the comment. Now people are saying well, I 407 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: don't know, Ken Dorsey, I don't know what they Listen, 408 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 1: they were better offensively this year than they were last year, 409 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: against the harder strength of schedule, against a much more 410 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: difficult strength of schedule and more injuries. So you can 411 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: say what you want about you don't like Ken Dorsey. 412 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: You think you should be fired it that that I 413 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: how the season ended, all that stuff. You say what 414 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: you want. They were better this year and they were 415 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: last year. They were number two scoring, number two total points, 416 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: number two scoring, not two, number two yards get and 417 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: they were the best team, number one team on third down. 418 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: Say whatever you want. They were better this year and 419 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: they were last year. That doesn't always happen, And you 420 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: may not like the way it looks, right. You may 421 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 1: not like the way it looks. You think, wow, they 422 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: should have been better. They should have been Listen, they were. 423 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: They were better than they were the year before in 424 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: their rankings and in a lot of ways. So you 425 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: may not like it to hear it, and you may 426 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: be bummed about it. But Ken Dorsey did a really 427 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: nice job and he's still here, which is good. But 428 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: what happens now you got to do it again? Now, 429 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. Joe Brady gonna move up again. You're gonna, 430 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: you know, pretty soon you run out of guys who 431 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: have the continuity and the and the experience to help Josh. 432 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: So this year they they got away with it. And 433 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: if you want to say it that way, and losing 434 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: a great coordinator like day Ball. But it doesn't always 435 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: happen like that. You may be right. Maybe maybe you know, 436 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 1: Philly and Kansas City are gonna get pillaged after the 437 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 1: Super Bowl with these hires, with these two head coaching 438 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: hires that are still out there. Maybe not, but the 439 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: still simple. The fact of the matter is, you know, 440 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: it's a bit, it's a thing. The staffs are vastly 441 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: important in the NFL, and if you keep having to 442 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: replace guys at the top, and it's a problem. So 443 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: I like to having defensive guys like Doug Allen in 444 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: New Orleans. I get it. I totally get it. Yeah, 445 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: there is more coaching news that just happened. Former Panthers 446 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: interim head coach Steve Wilkes is expected to become the 447 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: new defensive coordinator of the San Francisco forty nine ers. 448 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: They had a vacancy obviously when Damiko Ryan's left to 449 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: become the head coach of the Texans, so Steve Wilkes 450 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: will be the new DC in San Francisco. He actually 451 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: has been a head coach in his previous coaching career. 452 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: He was the one and done guy in Arizona right 453 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: after they drafted Josh Rosen and then was summarily dismissed 454 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: after one season, and Cliff Kingsbury came in and really 455 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: didn't have a whole lot more success. So it looks 456 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: like Wilkes will be going to San fran to work 457 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: under Kyle Shanahan with the forty nine ers. That's a 458 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: heck of a defense to inherit. Yeah, it's not a 459 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 1: bad gig. Yeah, that's I know. They gotta pay Nick 460 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: Bosa this offseason. I'll say this though, too. I mean 461 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: it's you're gonna get scrutinized because they were really good 462 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: and they better be really good this year or it's 463 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: on you. You know what I'm saying. There better be 464 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: some and there were number one, so there's only one 465 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: place they can go. You better be there better be 466 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 1: some really obvious reasons other than you that they don't 467 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: live up to the number one defense again next year. 468 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: You better have some real solid, tangible reasons that everybody 469 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 1: can see or you're gonna get the blame for them 470 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: dropping in the rankings. But there's no better, you know, 471 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 1: you don't have a nobody's got a cupboard that's more 472 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: that's more full than yours is walking into that doll. 473 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: See we'll see, but yeah, that's I think that comes 474 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: with a lot of pressure, a lot like Ken Dorsey's 475 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: pressure coming in with Brian dayball this year. He did well, 476 00:27:55,400 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 1: right and an all world quarterback. Topic of discussion to 477 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: day concerns that quarterback Josh Allen. What do you believe 478 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: is the most effective way to take the load off 479 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: Josh Allen next season? I think there's a lot of people, 480 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: fans and outside observers alike, who would claim that there 481 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 1: is too much on Josh Allen's plate and too much 482 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,959 Speaker 1: of the offensive burden falls on him too much of 483 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: the time. Just look at his rushing yards as one example. 484 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: So in your eyes, what is the most effective way 485 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: roster wise for the Bills to take the load off 486 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: Josh Allen next season? You tell us at eight oh 487 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: three five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two, 488 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: five fifty the number to get on board. Got an 489 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: open line for you there, or you can hit us 490 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: up on the tweet sheet at one Bills Live. We've heard, 491 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: you know, we have Greg Kosell on here on a 492 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: weekly basis during the season, Steve, and he says he 493 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: said it more than once. He feels that the offense 494 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: is too Josh centric and too much of the burden 495 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: is on him to make it all work every single week, 496 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: no matter the circumstances. And I think he's got a point, 497 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: and you know, I think that's why a lot of 498 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: us feel like the team's got to go all in 499 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball this offseason to 500 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: kind of surround him with a little bit more to 501 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: work with. We we had this conversation too that in 502 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: the AFC Championship game, Mahomes and Joe Burrow, Mahomes almost 503 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: set records. He was ninety one percent of their offense. So, 504 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: if you've got that guy, which the Bills do, the 505 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: Chiefs do, the Chargers do this, Bengals do. You can 506 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: go down the list. You gotta I think you gotta 507 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: ride that horse, and you gotta expect him to be 508 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: that guy. Now, if you can make him, give him help. 509 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: No question is gonna help. I mean, it's gonna take easier, 510 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: make it easier for him, And a lot of things 511 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: point towards it. The rules are slanted towards that side 512 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: of the ball, They officiate towards that side of the ball. 513 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: That position gets a ton of protection where you don't 514 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: have to worry about getting clothesline two steps after the 515 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: balls left your hand. They protect it. Everything says that 516 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: if you've got that guy, it should be easy for him. 517 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: And it didn't seem like that for Josh this year. 518 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: It seemed like it was at times it was like, man, 519 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: give the guy a little help, you know, do a 520 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: little something. Somebody do something. So I think that's where 521 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: a lot of Bills fans kind of find themselves at 522 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: different time. Maybe not all the time, but certainly at 523 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: different times, Bills fans are like, oh, man, man, don't 524 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: don't drop that pass, you know, or hand the ball? 525 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: Can you hand it to him instead of letting Josh 526 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: run for the fourth and one? Can you hand it 527 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: to somebody else? That kind of thing. So, um, that's 528 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: where we're at today with the question, Yeah, how would 529 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: you do it? Yeah, most effective way to take the 530 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: load off of Josh next season, not saying you're gonna 531 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: have him take a back seat. He's still gonna be 532 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: the driving force of the offense. But how do you 533 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: make things a little easier for him with respect to 534 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: the roster? You let us know at eight three five 535 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: fifty We take a break here, but we're back with 536 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: your phone calls and your tweets. Next. You're on One 537 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: Bills Live, presented by Kalaida Health. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. 538 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to One Bills Live. Chris Brown, 539 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you as we are discussing what you 540 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: think the most effective way to take the load off 541 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: Josh Allen next season. Might be plenty of ways to 542 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: do it, and Steve and I kind of gave us, 543 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: gave our initial feelings earlier before we went to break. 544 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: We want to know what you think at eight three 545 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: five fifty one, eight eight five fifty two five fifty 546 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: open line for you there, But we go to the 547 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: phones now and leading us off is Dan in Glenwood. 548 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:05,719 Speaker 1: What do you got for his? Dan? You're on One 549 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Hey, guys, thanks for having me. So I 550 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: was gonna say What we needed to add was two 551 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: simple words, reliable targets. But I want to go one 552 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: step further and say push the chips to the middle 553 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: of the table and go all in on reliable targets 554 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: for Josh. Don't just do it in the draft, because 555 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: mcdermot's kind of showing he's a freight the players as 556 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: an integral part of the offense. We still don't know 557 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: we have in Kalil secure and we can't count on 558 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: one hundred percent free agency. We're gonna be able to get, 559 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: but come at it from all fronts. So I know, Washington, 560 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: that's six foot seven tight end out of Georgia. You 561 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: know in the draft there's been reports the Chargers are 562 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: gonna move on from Keenan Allen due to cap space. 563 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: Maybe he'd be willing to take a more team friendly 564 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: deal somebody like that. So why don't you give me 565 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: a number? Dan? In turn? So, reliable targets plural, But 566 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: what would be a sufficient number for you, and you 567 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: can lump receivers tight ends all together, what would be 568 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: a total over under number you'd be looking at to 569 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: satisfy you new additions? Correct? Three? Okay? You would need 570 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: like like I said, maybe one from the draft to 571 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: get some use one free agent wise, but you'd have 572 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: to have one other one to compensate for injuries or busts. 573 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: And then you hope one of the other pieces we 574 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: have turns the corners. We do have something in Shakier, 575 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: it clicks for Gabe Davis, Knox becomes just a little 576 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: bit more dependable, something like that. So there is that 577 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: you think one of the additions out of the three 578 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: you're talking about, are already on the roster, but you 579 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: got to find them and develop them. I would hope 580 00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: either way, Um, if they're not, if it's not Shaki, year, 581 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: if it's not Davis, then maybe there was an underrated, 582 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: lower cost free agent acquisition we made an addition to 583 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins Keenan Allen, I think is t Higgins going 584 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: to be a free agent or is he in a 585 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,439 Speaker 1: contract year or something with Cincinnati. He is the same 586 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: as Joe Burrow, so I think he has a year 587 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: left on his original rookie deal. As you know, after 588 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: year three, if the quarterbacks shown up, they signed him 589 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: sooner as than later to a monster extension, They're probably 590 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 1: going to have to wait on Higgins another year. And 591 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: if they don't pay him, then he'll let free agency 592 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 1: next year. Yeah, but he's got an option for next season. No, 593 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 1: probably not, No, somebody like that. We can't afford multiple 594 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: big names, but you would hope you could get a 595 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: big name and a promising draft prospect and then maybe 596 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: a bargain free agent signing and or one of our 597 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: guys we currently have in the roster clicking. So we 598 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: would need three total out of that. Yeah, all right, 599 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: good call, Dan, thanks for it. Eight oh three five 600 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: fifty number to get on board one eight fifty two, 601 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,799 Speaker 1: five fifty. We move along and we go to Mark 602 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: in West Seneca next. What do you got for his Mark? Hi, guys, Chris, 603 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: welcome back, you're missed. Thanks. I think everybody is going 604 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 1: so crazy over I got two things. I wanted to 605 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: real muntion real quick what we need to do on 606 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: offense to help Josh. And then I just wanted to 607 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: make a comment on always talking about where are we 608 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 1: we rank statistically offensively and defensively, so real quick, I 609 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: believe with the digs, Davis Knox, what the role that 610 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: Cook is going to have next year? I think Morris 611 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: is a more than serviceable other option at tight end. 612 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: He can help a lot. I think you got shakier. 613 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: And if they add one more a wide receiver in 614 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: the first round, somebody that has the potential to be dynamic, 615 00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: if they can find them where they're going to be 616 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: draft from. I think, and then you resigned, Crowder, I 617 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: think you may be okay. I think we really need 618 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: to invest in the offensive line. I would like to 619 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: see first round wide receivers, second third round offensive lineman, 620 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: and then try to bring in a couple of veteran 621 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: guys on the offensive line for a reasonable amount of 622 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 1: money if they could. I really think you serve you 623 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: really help your offense a lot by really solidifying that 624 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: offensive line. And I think we can't overlook that because 625 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: we're so in search of weapons. So that's the first 626 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 1: thing I'd like to say. The other thing I'd like 627 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: to say, really quick is we always point to the 628 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: standings of where our offense and defense finishes up. We're 629 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 1: top five offense, we're top five defense, blah blah blah. 630 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: And as significant as that is and as important as 631 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: that is, it's reflective of the regular season, and we 632 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: look at the end of the year where we get 633 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: eliminated in the division in AFC playoffs the last three years, 634 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: and if you look at our performances of our offense 635 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: and defense, three out of those years, defensively we were 636 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,439 Speaker 1: nowhere near up to a top five defense. We look 637 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: at the production and how we played, and two of 638 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: those three years was the same thing offensively. My point 639 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: is this, we can't overlook the performance of what's going 640 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: on at the end of the year when the competition 641 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 1: gets great. Because we do so well during the offense 642 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: during the regular season, we can't let that overshadow it. 643 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 1: We need to make hard decisions and find out where 644 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: the disconnect is between how we perform regular season and playoffs. 645 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: And obviously the competition is a lot harder, so you're 646 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: not maybe not going to perform as well. But we 647 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: can't have a drop off like we've had for three 648 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: years now. Yeah, I get you, and yet's good, this 649 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: point well made, Mark, and I get it about particularly 650 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 1: about the rankings and how they're at the end of 651 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 1: the season. I've said a lot, you know, nobody really 652 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:05,320 Speaker 1: wants to hear it, but the Bills, their roster, their players, 653 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: their coaches have been good enough and talented enough to 654 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl for the last three years, and 655 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: they haven't gotten it done on those crucial days. You get. 656 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,879 Speaker 1: They got close. They got to the thirteen second mark 657 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: to get to the AFC Championship game, which would have 658 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 1: been in Buffalo. They got to the AFC Championship game 659 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: against Kansas City, and Kansas City admittedly played their best 660 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,880 Speaker 1: game of that season in twenty twenty against the Bills 661 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 1: in the championship game. You have to play well, You're right. 662 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 1: Statistics don't matter. You got to play well on game 663 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 1: day in the playoffs or you lose. And the Bills 664 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: have been a victim of that over the last three years. 665 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 1: That final game, they haven't played well enough. You can 666 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: say what you wanted about the thirteen second game, they 667 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 1: still gave that team, let them off the hook, and 668 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: they went to the a FC Championship game and hosted it. 669 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: They subsequently lost it. But you got to know that 670 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,360 Speaker 1: the Bills, it would have been a different game against Cincinnati. 671 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: Maybe this angles would have beaten the Bills in Buffalo 672 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: like they did the Chiefs in Kansas City. But you 673 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: surely surely would have loved to have a swing at that. 674 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: You're right, You gotta play well on game day in 675 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 1: the playoffs. All the stats you've accumulated, all the good 676 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 1: things that you've done through the year, don't mean anything 677 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 1: on that game because you gotta play, and you're playing 678 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 1: usually or at least a couple of you play a 679 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: team that you haven't seen for a long time. Now. 680 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: It would have been different in Cincinnati because of the 681 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 1: Monday night game and the way the fact that it 682 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: didn't happen. But it didn't happen. So you're right, that's 683 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: a problem, and I'm willing to listen to Although we 684 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:43,080 Speaker 1: were here in the exact same spot last year with Diggs, Davis, Knox, 685 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: Morris McKenzie, and at that time as Hodgins was here, 686 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: we had all these guys. Hey, somebody's gonna these guys 687 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: are gonna be good. You know. Davis ended on a 688 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 1: high note. Diggs is gonna be good again, Knox is 689 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: gonna take another step forward. We're kind of right there, 690 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 1: coming a nine touchdown season, and you're and market from 691 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,879 Speaker 1: west Sene, You're saying you believe in him again. With 692 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:09,240 Speaker 1: Shakier and Cook added to that mix, You're you're thinking 693 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: that they are good at and I'm I'm kind of 694 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 1: with you. They better have some insurance. They scored a 695 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: ton of points this year. They scored a ton of 696 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 1: points this year and had a lot of yards. And 697 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 1: you add Crowder to the mix. He was playing well. 698 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: I went back and watched some games. Crowder was really 699 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: helping before he broke his leg. Okay, well he'll be back, 700 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 1: and if you'd sign him back, that'd be great. But 701 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: with Shakier and Morris another year under their belt, yeah, 702 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 1: maybe they will be helping a little bit more, no 703 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: question about it. I'm kind of with you. At the 704 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 1: bottom line, I think this offseason's about the offensive line, 705 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 1: drafting those guys, getting him in free agency. If you 706 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 1: can run the ball better with those guys up front, 707 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: if you've got them a little bit more dominant, dominant 708 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: physical presence up in the middle land on the at 709 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 1: the tackles. When those guys you know, play well and 710 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,439 Speaker 1: stay healthy, yeah, everything changes for Josh and all those 711 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: guys outside. So I'm kind of with you on that. 712 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: I gotta say for most of that, I'm yeah, I'm 713 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: with you. I like the weapons we've got. They certainly 714 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: scored enough points this last year to advance, and they 715 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 1: but your second point is the one that's really relevant. Yeah, 716 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 1: and I've got to do it in the playoffs. And 717 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: I've said this before too. The Chiefs are a team 718 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 1: that's a couple of years ahead of the Bills in 719 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: terms of their build, their roster build, and certain things 720 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:37,240 Speaker 1: come due in terms of expenditures and players salaries ahead 721 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 1: of They're almost like a look ahead for what the 722 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: Bills are going to encounter in a year or two. 723 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 1: They experienced that at the quarterback position with the large, 724 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: fat contract, you know, for the franchise quarterback, and how 725 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: you manipulate the roster after that, and where you make 726 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 1: sacrifices and where you invest And what did they do 727 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: two years ago to invest? They made a trade for 728 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: their left tackle, Orlando Brown. They signed Joe Tuney at 729 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,759 Speaker 1: the top of the market at the guard position in 730 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: free agency, and they drafted Creed Humphrey in the first round. 731 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: And now they have one of the best offensive lines 732 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,839 Speaker 1: in the league because of it. Where did they sacrifice 733 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. The very next year, 734 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 1: They didn't resign r Various War to starting cornerback. They 735 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 1: didn't bring back Tyranne Matthew they let him go to 736 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 1: to free agency. So there's a certain given take that 737 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: the Chiefs decided to make. They invested in their offense, 738 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: in their line, and they replaced Tyreek Hill with a 739 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 1: bunch of players. Instead of paying Tyreek Hill thirty million 740 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: a year, they traded him away. The Bills are gonna 741 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: have to take that similar approach, I think going forward 742 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 1: and the offensive line and the receiver position are two 743 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,799 Speaker 1: areas where that's going to have to happen. We got 744 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 1: to take a break here, but more are your phone 745 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 1: calls when we come back. What's the most effective way 746 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 1: to take the load off Josh and make things easier 747 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 1: for him next season? We take your phone calls. Next 748 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 1: segment here again on One Bill's Live, presented by Klota Health. 749 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, you gotta tell 750 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 1: us the most effective way to take the load off 751 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,839 Speaker 1: Josh Allen next season by roster or otherwise. You let 752 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 1: us know. Eight oh three, five fifty. Back to the phones, 753 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,200 Speaker 1: we go, and we go to Rosalind in Buffalo. What 754 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,840 Speaker 1: do you got for us? Rosalind? Hey, guys, how's it 755 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 1: going today? Good good? I'm just calling you from North Buffalo. Guys, 756 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 1: you've not been watching football a long time. And from 757 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 1: my perspective, you know, we drafted one of the best quarterbacks, 758 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, that we could have gotten in Buffalo. We 759 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,879 Speaker 1: really got lucky with him. From my perspective, he has 760 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: not been given enough time for our place to develop. 761 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,400 Speaker 1: That kid is running for his life. And you hit 762 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,280 Speaker 1: the nail right on the head before we went to break. 763 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 1: Kansas City did the right thing. They stood in their 764 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: offensive line. You know, we don't need big name, you 765 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,799 Speaker 1: know football players. You saw what they did, so why 766 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 1: can't we do the same thing. And this has been 767 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 1: going on for a couple of years. I mean, you know, yeah, 768 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 1: we got Von Miller. We invested in our defense, but 769 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: we did invest in our offensive line. Yeah, we've got digs, 770 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 1: We've got We've got all these guys. We don't need 771 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 1: to create the wheel here. And then on defense, my 772 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 1: comment on defense is, yeah, we do need to help 773 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 1: in our secondary. You know, I don't know what happened 774 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,839 Speaker 1: to the team. I mean, it just seemed like they 775 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 1: ran out of steam, you know at the end. You know, yeah, 776 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 1: we were hurts, but our guys came back that Cincinnati 777 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 1: game when we found out that they had three players 778 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,359 Speaker 1: on their offense that weren't starters. We should have ran 779 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 1: all over them. It seemed like we were in slow motion. Yeah, 780 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 1: and they and you know, the Bills very quietly, I 781 00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 1: don't know how many people. And thanks for the call, Roslin. 782 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:05,239 Speaker 1: We gotta jump here. We've said this before too. Yes, 783 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 1: the Bengals were without three starting offensive lineman. The Bills 784 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 1: were also without de Kwon Jones in that game, who 785 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,520 Speaker 1: had played in every other game this season, logged the 786 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,360 Speaker 1: majority of the snaps at the one technique and was 787 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 1: probably the best run stuffer on the team. And then 788 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,759 Speaker 1: you had Jordan Phillips playing with one arm with a 789 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: torn rotator cuff, so when von Miller was out and 790 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 1: no von Miller, so essentially you had three guys in 791 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 1: the top six of their rotation for the Bills on 792 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 1: the defensive side out. But your point about safety is 793 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,840 Speaker 1: well noted. I think that was the missing link in 794 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,840 Speaker 1: the secondary, not having Micah Hyde since week two, Jordan 795 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 1: Poyer in and out of the lineup, missing five or 796 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 1: six games due to injury, Damar Hamlin was out, and 797 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 1: then Damar Hamlin goes down. Juan Johnson had started in 798 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 1: place of Damar, and they made the switch. They moved 799 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,960 Speaker 1: to Damar from Jaquan Johnson early on after the after 800 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,839 Speaker 1: the injury times. We're both of them had to play, 801 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 1: and yeah, so you can make the that Jaquan was 802 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,359 Speaker 1: like the third guy that would have been in there. So, yeah, 803 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 1: the point's well taken. And also, Steve, I think we 804 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 1: kind of got spoiled a little bit with the way 805 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 1: Poyor and Hide have worked together for the better part 806 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 1: of the last five seasons. I mean, they covered up 807 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 1: a lot and neutralized a lot of potential disasters. I 808 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 1: mean they were diffusing bombs every week, but it was 809 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:32,759 Speaker 1: just they were still good at it. I think as onlookers, 810 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,279 Speaker 1: we almost took it for granted how effective they were 811 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 1: in shutting things down. I think if you can, I know, 812 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,600 Speaker 1: it's just a philosophical thing. If you can get more 813 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,759 Speaker 1: dominant offensively, you really put pressure on teams to keep up, 814 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 1: and it's not easy to do even if your defense 815 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,360 Speaker 1: is I still think that secondary when they're healthy, is 816 00:46:55,400 --> 00:47:00,200 Speaker 1: going to be as good as anybody's. But I think 817 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 1: he put pressure on them from both sides of the football. 818 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,799 Speaker 1: But I think often the league has slanted towards that 819 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 1: side of the ball. You can't. I don't think you 820 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:11,799 Speaker 1: can be deficient on offense. I mean, look at the 821 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:16,359 Speaker 1: season that the Detroit Lions had and the Minnesota Vikings had. 822 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 1: They were at the top of the conference with a 823 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:23,799 Speaker 1: chance to go with a defense that was statistically poor, 824 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 1: very poor, and yet they were ringing people up and 825 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 1: one more than they lost, one more than they lost, 826 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,840 Speaker 1: and they did it with a roster that preseason was 827 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 1: thought to be middle of the road at best. So 828 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,880 Speaker 1: and that's how the Lions finished up. But they're the 829 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 1: Lions are man finished there the flavor of the month. 830 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 1: They finish with the season they had the Minnesota Vikings. 831 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:56,480 Speaker 1: It's an old story for them, but their defense was 832 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 1: nothing to write home about, it right, And they won 833 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 1: ten one score games this year because their offense could 834 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 1: finish at the end of football. It's right. So I'm 835 00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,960 Speaker 1: I'm kind of with you. I want the offensive line 836 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:11,840 Speaker 1: to be big, bad and young and cheap, a little nasty, 837 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 1: and because I like the guys they have on the outside. 838 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,960 Speaker 1: Certainly we had more drops than we liked, but they 839 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 1: had guys that were getting separation that every so Walt, 840 00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 1: you know, guys make really nice catches. Digs is as 841 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 1: good as there is Davis. Sometimes I thought maybe just 842 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:31,439 Speaker 1: needs some more opportunities. Shaquire the same thing, cook same thing. 843 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,320 Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot there to like, and certainly 844 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 1: the end of the season leaves a bad taste in 845 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:43,480 Speaker 1: everybody's mouth. But I'm not gonna Yeah, I'm not gonna 846 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,640 Speaker 1: throw out a lot of really good football players just 847 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 1: because the season ended on a sour note. Yeah, we 848 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 1: have to take a break here, but when we return, 849 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:57,399 Speaker 1: we are going to be joined by NFL network analytics 850 00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,759 Speaker 1: experts Cynthia Freeland. She'll be joined winning us here in 851 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,799 Speaker 1: our number two to break some things down for us, 852 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:07,400 Speaker 1: including the upcoming Super Bowl. Cynthia Freeland, come on your 853 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 1: way next here on one Bills Live presented by Collid 854 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 1: to Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. These one Bills Live 855 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,600 Speaker 1: presented by Callid to Health. All right, here we are 856 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 1: our number two on a Tuesday. Chris Brown, Steve task 857 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 1: me with you. One Bills Live was the show and 858 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:06,480 Speaker 1: pleased to be joined now by NFL Networks self proclaimed 859 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,959 Speaker 1: numbers nerd. It is Cynthia Freeland joining us. I would 860 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 1: do it Cynthia. Good to see you here on this 861 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 1: super Bowl week. So great to see you. And also, 862 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,359 Speaker 1: you know Bill's preseason. This is a big deal for me. 863 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,799 Speaker 1: I always ever sells love there you were. You were 864 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 1: on the sidelines last week the East West Shrine game too, 865 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,239 Speaker 1: after he did the preseason with us every year. That was, yeah, 866 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:33,400 Speaker 1: how'd that go? So the actual shrine week was epic. 867 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 1: The actual game was a little slow. It was a 868 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,359 Speaker 1: little slow, I think it was. It was funny because 869 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,200 Speaker 1: this year the Patriots were one coaching staff and the 870 00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 1: Falcons were the other, and it was it was just 871 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,440 Speaker 1: a different vibe than before when they had like piece 872 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,759 Speaker 1: together staffs with like different from different teams. So just 873 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,799 Speaker 1: a different experience. But there's a lot of good players there. 874 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,160 Speaker 1: Some of them didn't play in the game, but they 875 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:57,920 Speaker 1: were at practice, so you did get a chance to 876 00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,480 Speaker 1: see them there. Yeah, that's a cool thing. We're in 877 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,719 Speaker 1: that season now, like the whole pre draft thing, and 878 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,000 Speaker 1: I know you're that's probably a little down the line 879 00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,960 Speaker 1: for you with some of the you know, evaluations that 880 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,360 Speaker 1: you'll be doing and you know, crunching the analytics on 881 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,640 Speaker 1: those prospects. I did find you know, you had a 882 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,719 Speaker 1: piece back on Championship weekend that I liked a lot. 883 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:20,600 Speaker 1: It was like one thing that each of the teams 884 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,800 Speaker 1: does better than the other kind of thing, and I 885 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,359 Speaker 1: was still fascinated by it from the very jump. With 886 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:31,840 Speaker 1: the Chiefs because not having Tyreek, I was really interested 887 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,839 Speaker 1: in how their offense was going to kind of morph 888 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,040 Speaker 1: and change because they're not going to be able to 889 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,319 Speaker 1: just throw him a pass and expect him to run 890 00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:42,320 Speaker 1: sixty yards to pay dirt. So I guess it didn't 891 00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 1: shock me that their yards per attempt were down and 892 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 1: their passing game was shorter by nature, but they made 893 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:55,359 Speaker 1: it work, Like I was surprised that it remained effective 894 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 1: wire to wire here for them. Were you surprised by that? 895 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,440 Speaker 1: I get it was a surprised to see that Patrick 896 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,680 Speaker 1: Mahomes had thrown the most touchdown passes of ten or 897 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,399 Speaker 1: fewer air yards this season, just because when you when 898 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,360 Speaker 1: you close your eyes you think of Patrick Mahomes, you 899 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,960 Speaker 1: think of like horizontal passes going thirty yards from some 900 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,040 Speaker 1: weird arm angle that just doesn't make any sense. But 901 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,280 Speaker 1: he has he has twelve more touchdown passes the next 902 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,759 Speaker 1: closest guy on those shorter distance passes and it was 903 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 1: interesting and I know you're showing some you know, MVS 904 00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 1: highlights here. It's interesting to see who's had to pick 905 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,439 Speaker 1: up the yac like Mark Valdas Gantling did not have 906 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,120 Speaker 1: a real like after the catch situation when he was 907 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,839 Speaker 1: at his former team with the Packers. But they've moved 908 00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,399 Speaker 1: Kelsey around the formation, they've moved MVS, they've adapted when 909 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,000 Speaker 1: they got injured. You saw that last week with Kadarius 910 00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,120 Speaker 1: Tony leaving early especially and no Drew Juice Miss Schuster. 911 00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,600 Speaker 1: So it's been really interesting to see all the different 912 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,600 Speaker 1: formations they've been running and how they've had to kind 913 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,560 Speaker 1: of adapt and make it, make it happen so that 914 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,840 Speaker 1: you could still get Travis Kelsey the ball. Yeah, we've 915 00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,920 Speaker 1: been talking about how these two teams were built in 916 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,280 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl Philly in Kansas City, Mahomes famously signed 917 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,719 Speaker 1: that half a billion dollar contract that is you know, 918 00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,600 Speaker 1: he's gonna I think he's gonna be a chief until 919 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 1: he's sixty two. But but they've had to work around 920 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,600 Speaker 1: that contract and they've seemed to have done it. They've 921 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,080 Speaker 1: got contributions from a lot of young guys and some 922 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,440 Speaker 1: cheap labor after bolstering an offensive line. I mean they 923 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,719 Speaker 1: seem to have hit on a lot of cylinders. Absolutely, 924 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 1: And if you're looking in this upcoming game, I mean 925 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,840 Speaker 1: Lagarius Snead, who just cleared concussion protocol. He'll be a 926 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,839 Speaker 1: free agent this season, so they're still getting him at 927 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 1: pretty much a premium. I think he will. He's shown 928 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,440 Speaker 1: a lot at that star position, in the nicol corner 929 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,400 Speaker 1: position and out wide. Actually, I think I don't know 930 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,040 Speaker 1: if they're gonna be able to afford to keep him, 931 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,600 Speaker 1: but it'll be interesting to see. You know, he's got 932 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,799 Speaker 1: a whole contract on the line, so that could be 933 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,680 Speaker 1: a big game from him, could mean a lot of 934 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:52,320 Speaker 1: money for another team. There's a lot about the Eagles 935 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:56,080 Speaker 1: that is impressive this season, and obviously the addition of 936 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 1: a j Brown says a lot. I think the quality 937 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,200 Speaker 1: of their lines on offense inde fence is also something. 938 00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:06,879 Speaker 1: But their short yardage success this year Cynthia, not only 939 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,160 Speaker 1: on third down but on fourth down two is uncanny. 940 00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,080 Speaker 1: Like we see that a lot here with Josh and 941 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,720 Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, he's a six five, two hundred forty 942 00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,200 Speaker 1: five pound quarterback. Yeah, he's pretty much a sure thing 943 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 1: on sneaks, but Jalen Hurts is like just as good 944 00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,399 Speaker 1: and he's like half of Josh's size, Like what's going 945 00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:29,000 Speaker 1: on there? Well, part of the fact is it's the 946 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,279 Speaker 1: best o line in football this season, so that, you know, 947 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,800 Speaker 1: quite helpful thing to have happened there. Plus the addition 948 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 1: of the way that they've kind of folded in or 949 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:42,600 Speaker 1: not folded in strategically used the kind of the field 950 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:46,239 Speaker 1: stretching weapons as well as designed quarterback runs. I mean, 951 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,840 Speaker 1: we haven't actually even seen Hurts really do any design 952 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,000 Speaker 1: to run since he hurt his shoulder so well over 953 00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,399 Speaker 1: a month. But if you're seeing like where he's been 954 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 1: super effective and efficient, it's been like, you know, kind 955 00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,279 Speaker 1: of an issue where Miles Sanders doesn't pick up a 956 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:00,960 Speaker 1: block and he's like, well, gotta go on my own. 957 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:02,880 Speaker 1: You know, Miles Standards didn't pick up the blitz, so 958 00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,319 Speaker 1: I'm going to go scramble for my life now, which 959 00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,600 Speaker 1: is it's just a different way from Josh. Josh just 960 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,600 Speaker 1: muscles it. Hurts just sort of bounces around and responds 961 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,839 Speaker 1: to it. So in the next end, when you see 962 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,400 Speaker 1: these two teams matchup and the you know, and the 963 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:19,719 Speaker 1: difference in the and the way they're structured. You're right, 964 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,759 Speaker 1: it was the line of scrimmage has been Philadelphias on 965 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:24,719 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball, and that's really been the 966 00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,840 Speaker 1: engine that has driven them all season. Correct, absolutely. I 967 00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,160 Speaker 1: mean they had seventy sacks, so that's the most in 968 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,759 Speaker 1: the league by a lot. And you know they are 969 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,480 Speaker 1: also we're getting pressure without using the blitz, which is 970 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,399 Speaker 1: very helpful because you can drop guys in coverage. If 971 00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,040 Speaker 1: there was one weakness or the area that you know 972 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 1: Andy Reid will look to exploit, it's probably the linebacker level, 973 00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,960 Speaker 1: especially linebackers in coverage, and the safeties and you know 974 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,120 Speaker 1: sometimes CJ. Gardner Johnson play safety, so I'm excluding him 975 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,439 Speaker 1: from that, but you know, the safeties other than him, 976 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,960 Speaker 1: because if you see the area of the field that 977 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 1: has been most targeted, they have almost a fifty completion 978 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,520 Speaker 1: percentage allowed in that back middle third of the field, 979 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,160 Speaker 1: which is kind of like the Travis Kelsey area. So 980 00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,319 Speaker 1: that's where I would think that Andy Reid would look 981 00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,560 Speaker 1: to exploit because the other areas just seem like, well, 982 00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,919 Speaker 1: we got all these guys that are going to rush 983 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,520 Speaker 1: the passer, and we've got these great corners and yeah, 984 00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:19,880 Speaker 1: there are all lines pretty nasty and we can stretch 985 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,960 Speaker 1: the field. So we got a lot of things covered, 986 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,680 Speaker 1: but maybe the one area we don't necessarily have covered 987 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:28,640 Speaker 1: is the Travis Kelsey area. Yeah. I want to talk 988 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:32,000 Speaker 1: a little Bills here, Cynthia, because there is one thing 989 00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,440 Speaker 1: that comes up from time to time with our fans, 990 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,160 Speaker 1: you know, they call into this show, and Steve and 991 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,320 Speaker 1: I have tried to kind of wrap our heads around 992 00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:42,760 Speaker 1: why it is the case Bills are a very prolific 993 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,319 Speaker 1: passing team, but they rank low almost every year in 994 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,759 Speaker 1: yards after catch, and we kind of suspect that it's 995 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,799 Speaker 1: partly due to the fact that Josh is kind of 996 00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,920 Speaker 1: like a put it on you passer. He's not a 997 00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:59,160 Speaker 1: throw you into space passer necessarily all the time. So 998 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,680 Speaker 1: we're thinking that's part of it. Is there a metric 999 00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:07,440 Speaker 1: anywhere that can help spell out why you know the 1000 00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:11,239 Speaker 1: Bills typically rank very low in yards after catch as 1001 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:15,439 Speaker 1: a team, Well, a couple of things. First, if you're 1002 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,000 Speaker 1: looking to see what kind of passes Josh throws, he 1003 00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,200 Speaker 1: throws deeper passes. So if you have longer air yards 1004 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,280 Speaker 1: per attempt passes, it just takes longer for the play 1005 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,080 Speaker 1: to develop, and it also becomes a deeper pass, which 1006 00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,880 Speaker 1: means sometimes you're already like I'd be curious to see, 1007 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 1: like how many end up in the end zone, right, 1008 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,680 Speaker 1: because if you're only running five yards to get to 1009 00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:36,280 Speaker 1: the end zone, like, that's not a lot of yards 1010 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,880 Speaker 1: after the catch because you know you made a touchdown. 1011 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,840 Speaker 1: So the reality is he's throwing a bit deeper passes. 1012 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,800 Speaker 1: And also like a lot of times, it's smarter to 1013 00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,320 Speaker 1: run out of bounds, right, it's smarter to you have 1014 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,360 Speaker 1: to take into account the strategy of what you're trying 1015 00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,480 Speaker 1: to do there. It's not always just deep pass, the 1016 00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,160 Speaker 1: yard depth of the catch, touchdown every single play. Sometimes 1017 00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:58,120 Speaker 1: clock management comes into play and the score also. So 1018 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 1: I think it's a it's a funny it's kind of 1019 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,960 Speaker 1: like a funny, weird statistical anomaly. I think the thing 1020 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,720 Speaker 1: that matters more, way, way, way more is earning first 1021 00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,360 Speaker 1: downs and touchdowns, and that's an area where the passing 1022 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,080 Speaker 1: game for the Bills is always strong. All Right, So 1023 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:16,240 Speaker 1: you're our favorite numbers nerd and you came up with 1024 00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 1: this thing. It's fun at this end of the season 1025 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:19,440 Speaker 1: because we're just looking back and we see all these 1026 00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,160 Speaker 1: teams that have had good seasons, bad seasons, unexpected seasons. 1027 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,480 Speaker 1: You did a nice piece for the NFL dot Com 1028 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:29,400 Speaker 1: about teams that overperform the aspects of teams that overperformed. 1029 00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:33,080 Speaker 1: For instance, Seattle's passing offense with Gino was off. The 1030 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,520 Speaker 1: off was out of nowhere, right, And then you've also 1031 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:40,000 Speaker 1: got stuff like Denver's offense that really underperformed. And I 1032 00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,080 Speaker 1: don't know if you can remember what you did in 1033 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:43,600 Speaker 1: that way you said in that piece, but can you 1034 00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:47,160 Speaker 1: give us maybe a couple of highs and lows, overs 1035 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,440 Speaker 1: and unders of teams that you because it's never predicted. 1036 00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,480 Speaker 1: We're trying to predict all this stuff with analytics and 1037 00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,240 Speaker 1: it's harder and harder. But some of these things came 1038 00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,640 Speaker 1: out of nowhere. These teams were either really good and 1039 00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,880 Speaker 1: we didn't expect them to be or they really stunk 1040 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,320 Speaker 1: and we expect him to be good. So you talked 1041 00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,720 Speaker 1: about Geno Smith, and I kind of love this one 1042 00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,240 Speaker 1: because in the beginning of the season he had the 1043 00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:11,520 Speaker 1: most deep touchdown passes of anyone in the entire league, 1044 00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,520 Speaker 1: which is funny for two reasons. One, it's Pete Carroll 1045 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,560 Speaker 1: who's notorious for saying, let's let's club running play. How 1046 00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:19,120 Speaker 1: about you want to run the ball? Okay, let's run 1047 00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:23,080 Speaker 1: the ball again. The most rushing plays called by percentage 1048 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:26,160 Speaker 1: any coach in like the last maybe like since people 1049 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,600 Speaker 1: you know started passing the football, right, So that's funny too. 1050 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,600 Speaker 1: It's just kind of something you didn't expect because remember 1051 00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,120 Speaker 1: they traded for Drew Locke, and everyone's like, it has 1052 00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,360 Speaker 1: to be Drew Locke, right, He's the starter. We didn't 1053 00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:39,280 Speaker 1: even think Gino was gonna start. So that's where that's 1054 00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,320 Speaker 1: a really fun one. And they don't even have a 1055 00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,720 Speaker 1: very good old line. They do have two good wide 1056 00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,880 Speaker 1: receivers and they're decent in the in the tight end game. 1057 00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,120 Speaker 1: But you know, that was super It was a fun one, especially, 1058 00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,560 Speaker 1: you know, given all the weird notes around you know, 1059 00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,840 Speaker 1: the league about why maybe Russell left or whatever. And 1060 00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,280 Speaker 1: then of course, because we saw them in preseason, it 1061 00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,800 Speaker 1: was strange to see the Broncos underperformed so much on offense. 1062 01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Their defense was good, they were losing games letting teams 1063 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:10,480 Speaker 1: score less than double digits, and they lost games with 1064 01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:15,280 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, who since his hand injury, hasn't looked the same. 1065 01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,680 Speaker 1: You know, he's an improv He does a lot of 1066 01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,680 Speaker 1: improv right, so all those he couldn't really do that 1067 01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:22,600 Speaker 1: he didn't get on the same page with his receivers. 1068 01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:25,040 Speaker 1: He has good receivers. Will be interesting to see what 1069 01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:28,200 Speaker 1: Sean Payton does. Maybe a quicker passing, quicker strike offense 1070 01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,400 Speaker 1: like we saw with Drew Brees. I don't know. That's 1071 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,040 Speaker 1: a huge contract. That seems like a difficult job. I'm 1072 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:34,640 Speaker 1: glad a good coach got it because I like to 1073 01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:41,760 Speaker 1: see good football. But that was a very strange Bronchos offense. Strange, yeah, 1074 01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,800 Speaker 1: to say the least. Another question I had for you, Cynthia, 1075 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,760 Speaker 1: was regarding all of the coordinator changes we've seen around 1076 01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,240 Speaker 1: the league. I realized we still got a game to 1077 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,120 Speaker 1: play left in this season. But as you move into 1078 01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,880 Speaker 1: the off season and begin to assess and kind of predict, 1079 01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,560 Speaker 1: you know, whom I slot were in this league, you know, 1080 01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,720 Speaker 1: pecking order and whatnot. How much do you factor in 1081 01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:08,400 Speaker 1: new coordinators in new places and some of their previous history. 1082 01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,880 Speaker 1: I know the personnel that they inherit is obviously completely different. 1083 01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:15,200 Speaker 1: But Brian Flores to Minnesota, for example, do you look 1084 01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,880 Speaker 1: at his Dolphins history and maybe apply that in any way, 1085 01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:25,280 Speaker 1: shape or form to your models or edgaro Evero in Carolina. Yeah, 1086 01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,000 Speaker 1: I mean the personnel matters the most, obviously, and the 1087 01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:31,200 Speaker 1: kind of coaching tree and the background. I mean Minnesota specifically, 1088 01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,080 Speaker 1: I can speak a lot to Brian Flores. Actually went 1089 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,360 Speaker 1: to college with Brian Flores randomly. I've known him for 1090 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,400 Speaker 1: twenty years, and he obviously has a lot of experience 1091 01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:43,280 Speaker 1: with secondaries, which was the absolute problem with that Minnesota defense. 1092 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,800 Speaker 1: Minnesota secondary, they're very young, they were very green, they 1093 01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,040 Speaker 1: weren't very good. They were giving up just so many 1094 01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:50,840 Speaker 1: passing yards, and so I think that will be a 1095 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:54,760 Speaker 1: big source of improvement. Plus with Kevin O'Connell's offensive style, 1096 01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:56,880 Speaker 1: it is a more important one because some of these 1097 01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:00,000 Speaker 1: coordinator positions, if they're not going to be really responsible 1098 01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:03,520 Speaker 1: for calling plays or making decisions, then they matter less. 1099 01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,640 Speaker 1: But in the case of the Vikings, absolutely that one 1100 01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:10,360 Speaker 1: matters a ton. Also interesting to see, like I'm curious 1101 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,320 Speaker 1: to see what happens with Kellen Moore out here for 1102 01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,440 Speaker 1: the Chargers because that's a good offense. Justin Herbert is 1103 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,200 Speaker 1: a good quarterback and they have a lot of the pieces, 1104 01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:21,720 Speaker 1: but that team just keeps getting pummeled with injuries, and 1105 01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,680 Speaker 1: like the injury list is so long between them and 1106 01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:26,920 Speaker 1: the Titans that it's like I don't even know what 1107 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,480 Speaker 1: I'm looking at sometimes. So at the end of the day, 1108 01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,800 Speaker 1: I'll be interested to see how some of those guys 1109 01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,720 Speaker 1: make some adjustments, because I mean, you put a Schottenheimer 1110 01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:37,320 Speaker 1: in for the Cowboys, you know what you're getting there. 1111 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,400 Speaker 1: It's going to be very traditional, it's going to be 1112 01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,680 Speaker 1: very well, we'll see what the Cowboys can do. But 1113 01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,080 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I think the coordinator 1114 01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:47,439 Speaker 1: positions this year are really fascinating because it does kind 1115 01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,840 Speaker 1: of also predict for the next wave of head coaches, 1116 01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,480 Speaker 1: so how they start to coordinate these games and what 1117 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,680 Speaker 1: we start to see with offenses. Considering how different the 1118 01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,160 Speaker 1: college game is. I'm getting into draft season and you 1119 01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,280 Speaker 1: just watch and the college game just keeps getting more 1120 01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:03,360 Speaker 1: and more different and distinct from the NFL game, and 1121 01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:05,120 Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting to see how they all 1122 01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,840 Speaker 1: kind of map going forward to these coordinators. Yeah, the 1123 01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,680 Speaker 1: coordinators are kind of the big story this offseason because 1124 01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:14,040 Speaker 1: there are so many changing hands, Like you know, Kellen 1125 01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,320 Speaker 1: Moore going out and just going from one coordinator's job 1126 01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,360 Speaker 1: to another, Brian Flores re emerging as a defensive coordinator. 1127 01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:24,080 Speaker 1: You got Nate Hackett going from that coordinator's sideline head 1128 01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,760 Speaker 1: coach for half a year. Now he's a coordinator again 1129 01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:30,760 Speaker 1: for the New York Jets. How much? How do you 1130 01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,640 Speaker 1: just what Brownie asked? You got Minnesota who had a 1131 01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,360 Speaker 1: really nice offense, scored a lot of points and won 1132 01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:41,200 Speaker 1: a lot of single score games, but they were thirty 1133 01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:45,760 Speaker 1: first in defense? Did they have the thirty first roster 1134 01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,880 Speaker 1: in defense? I mean they certainly had some better players. 1135 01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,520 Speaker 1: How do you quantify that? If you might give us 1136 01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:55,920 Speaker 1: some insight into that? Yeah, so a lot like football's complimentary, right, 1137 01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,440 Speaker 1: So if you have an offense like you have with 1138 01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:00,760 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings, remember they were in all of those 1139 01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,800 Speaker 1: one possession games. One possession games that you win not 1140 01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:06,000 Speaker 1: super predictive because there are gonna be one more possession 1141 01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:09,160 Speaker 1: and you could lose. Right. So the interesting part there 1142 01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:12,320 Speaker 1: is you need things that fit. Meaning if you're going 1143 01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,920 Speaker 1: to have that offense that's able to score all those points, 1144 01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:18,640 Speaker 1: you can't have a bad passing defense because teams if 1145 01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:21,200 Speaker 1: you go up on them. They have to pass on you, 1146 01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:23,760 Speaker 1: so that is going to make it more and more difficult, 1147 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,280 Speaker 1: and those numbers are going to look really inflated in 1148 01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,360 Speaker 1: the pass game if your weakness is what you're forcing 1149 01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:33,080 Speaker 1: other teams to do. The vikings. They wed justin Jefferson, 1150 01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,920 Speaker 1: who obviously I hope he's the offensive player. I mean, 1151 01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,520 Speaker 1: he seems like he's a very strong candidate for Offensive 1152 01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:40,840 Speaker 1: Player of the Year. But at the end of the day, 1153 01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,120 Speaker 1: it's like, now you've got all these pass games, they 1154 01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:46,360 Speaker 1: didn't really have super consistent run games like Dalvin Cook 1155 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,800 Speaker 1: showed up, didn't show up, showed up like wasn't because 1156 01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,280 Speaker 1: you cannot control the clock that way. So they have 1157 01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,080 Speaker 1: to fit together, which this is now where free agency 1158 01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:57,720 Speaker 1: becomes super important. So you get your coordinators into position 1159 01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,440 Speaker 1: and then you see how you're going to restock the shells. 1160 01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,240 Speaker 1: It's going to be fascinating for the Jets to see 1161 01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:06,480 Speaker 1: what they do right because Nathaniel Hackett obviously came from 1162 01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,760 Speaker 1: that Green Bay pedigree with a quarterback who is, you know, 1163 01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:14,840 Speaker 1: amongst the most serious, focused and knows what he wants 1164 01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:16,880 Speaker 1: in the league. Now you don't know what's going on 1165 01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,880 Speaker 1: at quarterback there right, you know that Russell Wilson. We're 1166 01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:21,840 Speaker 1: just gonna that's an asterisk. We'll move that over there, 1167 01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:24,640 Speaker 1: We'll go. We'll give him Aaron Rodgers credit that he deserves. 1168 01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:26,880 Speaker 1: And then now who are they going to get to 1169 01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:28,960 Speaker 1: do that job? Because if you bring in a young 1170 01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:32,400 Speaker 1: a younger person or even a free agent, they could 1171 01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,480 Speaker 1: not have that personality. So it's going to be very 1172 01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:37,600 Speaker 1: interesting to see. The teams that fit the best are 1173 01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,160 Speaker 1: the ones where the guys bring in from free agency 1174 01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,960 Speaker 1: and draft, the people who could execute the game plan 1175 01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:45,640 Speaker 1: and vision of the coaches, coordinators, whoever's in charge of 1176 01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:51,120 Speaker 1: actually calling the plays. We'll see how they all fit together. Awesome, Cynthia, 1177 01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,280 Speaker 1: thanks for all the insight. We appreciate it. We also 1178 01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:57,160 Speaker 1: understand you have a new roommate. Care to share real quick. 1179 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,959 Speaker 1: He's the cutest ever. He's he's kind of messy and 1180 01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:05,120 Speaker 1: he's very neaty. He's my puppy and he's about eight 1181 01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:07,360 Speaker 1: months old and I rescued him. His name is Gordy 1182 01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:10,240 Speaker 1: after Gordy Howe, and I just I couldn't love him 1183 01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,480 Speaker 1: anymore and I'm very sad to leave him for the 1184 01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,720 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I'm going tomorrow and I'm we're having a 1185 01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:17,920 Speaker 1: moment here him and I. Well, we'll pull it together, 1186 01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:19,840 Speaker 1: but you know, we're just having a little We're gonna 1187 01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:21,920 Speaker 1: go on an extra walk, maybe some extra treats will 1188 01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:26,160 Speaker 1: be Okay. That's awesome, that's congratulations. Thanks Cynthia. Again. We'll 1189 01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:29,000 Speaker 1: catch up with you soon here in the off season. Yes, 1190 01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:30,760 Speaker 1: can't wait to see you guys soon. All right. That's 1191 01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:35,520 Speaker 1: NFL Networks analytics expert Cynthia Freeland joining us there, and 1192 01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:37,800 Speaker 1: she kind of made me feel better about the yards 1193 01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:40,280 Speaker 1: after the catch situation with the Bills, because a lot 1194 01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:43,880 Speaker 1: of people knock the Bills for not having a high 1195 01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:47,480 Speaker 1: yards after catch figure. I think they were second to 1196 01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:50,880 Speaker 1: last in twenty one. This past season, they were fifth 1197 01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:55,560 Speaker 1: from the bottom, and I don't think it really impacts 1198 01:06:56,280 --> 01:07:01,120 Speaker 1: their scoring prowess, their ability to move the football, And 1199 01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:03,680 Speaker 1: Cynthia kind of confirmed that for me. What the Bills 1200 01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,280 Speaker 1: do well is they can throw the ball deep because 1201 01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:09,960 Speaker 1: of Josh. That can reduce opportunities in terms of yards 1202 01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,480 Speaker 1: after the catch. And I think she confirmed for us 1203 01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:16,880 Speaker 1: what matters is first downs and touchdowns when it comes 1204 01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,760 Speaker 1: to prolific offense and the Bills score very highly in 1205 01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:23,080 Speaker 1: those two areas, and so yards after the catch, yeah, 1206 01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:26,320 Speaker 1: it'd be nice to have, but it's not killing them. 1207 01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:29,320 Speaker 1: I mean, just look at their numbers, right, at least 1208 01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:32,520 Speaker 1: the numbers that count score, that's right, scoring and yards 1209 01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:34,880 Speaker 1: and first downs and third down conversion. They're really good 1210 01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:36,880 Speaker 1: at that. I mean, so they they're clicking on a 1211 01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:40,200 Speaker 1: lot of cylinders. And you know, despite how the season 1212 01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:44,000 Speaker 1: ended for them, there's a lot to build on with 1213 01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:48,840 Speaker 1: the guys. And you know, I know that in the 1214 01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:51,000 Speaker 1: recency bias that we all live under, I mean we 1215 01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,200 Speaker 1: all think, just think about the team and how it 1216 01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:57,240 Speaker 1: looked when they walked off the field this last month 1217 01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,440 Speaker 1: when they got beat and they didn't play well, and 1218 01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,960 Speaker 1: you tend to want to scrap a few things and 1219 01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,240 Speaker 1: try something else. I don't know that I would. You 1220 01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:11,320 Speaker 1: gotta take a deep breath and just get those guys 1221 01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:14,120 Speaker 1: to play better on that day. Now, certainly they had 1222 01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,519 Speaker 1: a lot of things working against them, so you know, 1223 01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:20,840 Speaker 1: the Bengals did too. I don't know that we'll ever 1224 01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:24,639 Speaker 1: be able to quantify the effect that DeMar Hamlin's injury 1225 01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:26,759 Speaker 1: had on them, because the Bills won the next two games, 1226 01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:33,280 Speaker 1: but they barely beat sloppy against they the New England Patriots, Yeah, 1227 01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:37,280 Speaker 1: and sloppy against very sloppy against Miami, Skyler Thompson almost 1228 01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:41,839 Speaker 1: beat him, and they needed to kickoff returns for touchdowns 1229 01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:45,760 Speaker 1: to beat the Patriots, and Patriots were putrid offensively. So 1230 01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:49,080 Speaker 1: I don't think they ever recovered from that this season. 1231 01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:55,200 Speaker 1: I think it was painfully obvious, although not evident, in 1232 01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:57,920 Speaker 1: the game against Cincinnati, because it seemed like it was 1233 01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:00,639 Speaker 1: getting further away from what DeMar had been through, and 1234 01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:03,839 Speaker 1: I just don't think the team was the same. I 1235 01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:07,280 Speaker 1: don't know though that it's not for me to speculate 1236 01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:10,520 Speaker 1: about that, except that's what I do on the radio, speculate. 1237 01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:15,800 Speaker 1: So I it's it's easy to sit here and say, man, 1238 01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:17,240 Speaker 1: we need you to change this. When you change that, 1239 01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,719 Speaker 1: let's go here, let's do that. I don't know. I'm 1240 01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:21,640 Speaker 1: not ready to do that. Josh is a player that 1241 01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:23,479 Speaker 1: you got to build around, and that means the offense 1242 01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:24,680 Speaker 1: is going to look a certain way. And as we 1243 01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:28,519 Speaker 1: heard Cynthia say, he throws the ball all over the yard. 1244 01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:32,240 Speaker 1: It's not about yards after catch. It's about first downs 1245 01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:35,559 Speaker 1: and touchdowns and third downs and converting third downs, and 1246 01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:39,639 Speaker 1: they're really good at that. They're they're still a almost 1247 01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:43,800 Speaker 1: really tough team to beat. So I'm kind of with her, 1248 01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:46,000 Speaker 1: and some of our callers have said the same thing. 1249 01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:47,840 Speaker 1: You know, they got some faith in the guys they 1250 01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:50,840 Speaker 1: got on the team, But you need to protect Josh upfront, right, 1251 01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:54,599 Speaker 1: which brings us back to an offense that at times 1252 01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:59,240 Speaker 1: probably became almost too Josh centric and depended on him 1253 01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:03,880 Speaker 1: making something miraculous happened, you know, to give them or 1254 01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,599 Speaker 1: put them in a situation to score points. So what's 1255 01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:10,519 Speaker 1: the most effective way to make maybe take the load 1256 01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,280 Speaker 1: off of Josh even just a little bit. Going into 1257 01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,840 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, we get back to the phones and 1258 01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:19,439 Speaker 1: waiting patiently has been Dave in West Seneca waiting out 1259 01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:22,720 Speaker 1: for his Dave. You're on one Bill's Live. Hey guys, Hey, 1260 01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:26,639 Speaker 1: I'm a forty years season ticket holder and I've seen 1261 01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:28,320 Speaker 1: a lot of good in bed with this team. So 1262 01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:31,599 Speaker 1: I'm very proud of this team. So don't get me wrong. Hey, 1263 01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:34,800 Speaker 1: I'm thinking when we played Cincinnati in that playoff game 1264 01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,240 Speaker 1: and we went down fourteen nothing, I looked at my 1265 01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:38,720 Speaker 1: wife and my nephew that I was sitting next to 1266 01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:40,640 Speaker 1: me and I said, they're gonna put this game on 1267 01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:43,439 Speaker 1: Josh's shoulders, I said, and I looked at him, I said, 1268 01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:45,920 Speaker 1: I feel sorry for the kid. I said, they just 1269 01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:49,120 Speaker 1: put too much on his back. And I think he 1270 01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:51,479 Speaker 1: knows that he's carrying the weight of this team on 1271 01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:53,960 Speaker 1: his back, and I feel sorry for him. But I 1272 01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,479 Speaker 1: think what they need to help is the inside of 1273 01:10:56,479 --> 01:11:01,400 Speaker 1: the offensive line. You need two brand new guards. If 1274 01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:03,640 Speaker 1: you look at the three previous games that you were 1275 01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:07,679 Speaker 1: just talking about, the New England, Miami and Cincinnati game, 1276 01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:10,760 Speaker 1: Josh had no time back there to sit back there 1277 01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:13,439 Speaker 1: and look at the second, third, fourth receivers. I mean 1278 01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:16,840 Speaker 1: he was, he had no time whatsoever. Whatever they're doing defensively, 1279 01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,240 Speaker 1: they knew they can beat up in our offensive line, 1280 01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,720 Speaker 1: and they just they came after us with everything they 1281 01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:23,680 Speaker 1: had and we had no answer for it. So I 1282 01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:26,840 Speaker 1: think we need two offensive two offensive guards, and I 1283 01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:28,800 Speaker 1: think they need to and I think you can get 1284 01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:31,519 Speaker 1: that in the free agency without too much pain, too much. 1285 01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:33,920 Speaker 1: But I think you also need to draft a center, 1286 01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:38,960 Speaker 1: because one more concussion, maybe two with Mitch Morris, and 1287 01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:41,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna be looking for another center. So I think 1288 01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:44,800 Speaker 1: they need to let's develop another center and let's get 1289 01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,559 Speaker 1: two new guards to help Josh and maybe one receiver, 1290 01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:49,080 Speaker 1: and I think you can get that in the draft 1291 01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:52,880 Speaker 1: also to keep her salary camp download. So thanks, guys 1292 01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:54,559 Speaker 1: like the show, and I'll listen to what you have 1293 01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:57,000 Speaker 1: to say. Yeah, I'll say this too, And you're right, Dave. 1294 01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,200 Speaker 1: When they get into a time spot, they do depend 1295 01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:04,880 Speaker 1: on Josh. Uh That's what teams do with guys like Josh, 1296 01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:10,200 Speaker 1: on him, like Mahomes, like Burrow, like Justin Herbert Um 1297 01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:17,679 Speaker 1: and even Jacksonville with Trevor, Lawrence Bradian and uh Um, 1298 01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,240 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. That's what teams do. They when you got 1299 01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:23,280 Speaker 1: that guy, that's what he's there for. And part you 1300 01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:25,040 Speaker 1: don't gig and you don't. Yeah, you don't need to 1301 01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:29,440 Speaker 1: feel sorry for him. They guys like Josh and Mahomes 1302 01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:32,519 Speaker 1: and Aaron, they love it. They want it. They they 1303 01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:36,439 Speaker 1: want the ball in their hands when the game is 1304 01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:40,400 Speaker 1: on the line, late, when there's something's got to happen. 1305 01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:42,559 Speaker 1: They don't want anybody else have the ball. So don't 1306 01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:45,920 Speaker 1: feel sorry for those guys. That's it's a gift. It's 1307 01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:50,240 Speaker 1: a gift, and they treat it as such. That's why 1308 01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:53,799 Speaker 1: they're good. They love moments like that. Whether they succeed 1309 01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,320 Speaker 1: or fail, they still want us take the swing. They 1310 01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:58,400 Speaker 1: still want to wait, They want to take that snap 1311 01:12:58,439 --> 01:13:01,040 Speaker 1: and see what happens. So don't feel sorry for him. 1312 01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:04,160 Speaker 1: And Josh is not the only guy in the league 1313 01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:06,880 Speaker 1: who the team asks a ton of. Like I just said, 1314 01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:10,400 Speaker 1: Mahomes had one of the Kansas City offense in the 1315 01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:16,880 Speaker 1: championship game. He was the guy. So you can say 1316 01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:18,720 Speaker 1: what you want about how much the Bills asked them 1317 01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:23,120 Speaker 1: ask him to do. If you can give him some help, awesome. Yeah, 1318 01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:26,120 Speaker 1: but that's the way it works in the NFL, right, 1319 01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:30,000 Speaker 1: And maybe it's and we probably said this earlier already, 1320 01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:33,120 Speaker 1: but it's just about making life a little bit easier 1321 01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,720 Speaker 1: for him. Whether it's as some of our callers have 1322 01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:38,840 Speaker 1: pointed out, a half second longer to throw, you know, 1323 01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,600 Speaker 1: and deliver the football, one more open guy, yeah, a 1324 01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:45,760 Speaker 1: guy that can get early separation more consistently, you know, 1325 01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:49,320 Speaker 1: for easy button throws. As we've talked about, whatever it 1326 01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:53,639 Speaker 1: is you got to invest on that side to help 1327 01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:56,920 Speaker 1: the best player on your team make it easier for him. 1328 01:13:57,160 --> 01:14:03,759 Speaker 1: So we can excel even more frequently than he already does. Yeah, 1329 01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:05,879 Speaker 1: it's he's still going to be the center of everything. 1330 01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:10,559 Speaker 1: And if the offensive line's better, if all that stuff, yeah, 1331 01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:12,559 Speaker 1: no question about it. But he's still gonna have to 1332 01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:14,120 Speaker 1: be the guy that sees the open man and makes 1333 01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:16,160 Speaker 1: that throw. He's gonna be the one making the decisions 1334 01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:19,120 Speaker 1: back here. And that's what quarterbacks do. They make decisions 1335 01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:23,840 Speaker 1: and they execute it. So another year with him and 1336 01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:27,280 Speaker 1: Ken Dorseys, they're gonna be smoother and better. They're gonna 1337 01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:29,519 Speaker 1: learn about each other and learn more about what they're 1338 01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:31,080 Speaker 1: doing and some of the things they can do better, 1339 01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:34,240 Speaker 1: and they'll slice it up way more than we'll ever 1340 01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:38,160 Speaker 1: be able to hear on this radio program. But I'm 1341 01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:42,240 Speaker 1: kind I'm with you. Um. Offensive line looks to be 1342 01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:45,400 Speaker 1: something that you can say this about the receivers and 1343 01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:49,320 Speaker 1: stuff about they drop too many passes or whatever. That's 1344 01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:52,320 Speaker 1: and that's obvious that that's something we all know how 1345 01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:55,080 Speaker 1: to fix. He's get those guys out of there, catch 1346 01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,200 Speaker 1: balls whole day and you get to where you don't 1347 01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:01,479 Speaker 1: drop any you drop, or you drop fewer. Offensive line. 1348 01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:04,040 Speaker 1: It's harder for you know, every day schmucks like me 1349 01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:06,800 Speaker 1: and Brownie to think, well, how do they get better? 1350 01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:09,400 Speaker 1: They get bigger, they stronger. Okay, those guys lift and 1351 01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:12,599 Speaker 1: they train all the time. How do they play better? 1352 01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:15,280 Speaker 1: And there's no question offensive linemen play better in one 1353 01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:17,439 Speaker 1: system than another, and there's ways for them to improve 1354 01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:20,040 Speaker 1: their play. But for most of us jam Oaks like me, 1355 01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:24,639 Speaker 1: you think, well, guys just get better players. And there 1356 01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:26,760 Speaker 1: is some of that going on with the Bills today 1357 01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,440 Speaker 1: and all the calls we've been having and the conversation 1358 01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:31,880 Speaker 1: that's been going on since the end of the season, 1359 01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:33,720 Speaker 1: where you just feel like you need to be more 1360 01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:39,320 Speaker 1: dominant up there. That is a different conversation than having 1361 01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:41,679 Speaker 1: receivers who can just catch more balls and get better. 1362 01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:46,599 Speaker 1: How much improvement guys like Spencer Brown can make Ryan 1363 01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:48,880 Speaker 1: Bates Mitch Moore is how many you know? How much 1364 01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:51,599 Speaker 1: better can Dion Dawkins and Roger Saffold get And how 1365 01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,599 Speaker 1: confident you are that's going to happen. You can reject it. 1366 01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,719 Speaker 1: What's your degree of confidence, though, is just as important 1367 01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:00,200 Speaker 1: because that's going to determine whether or not you just 1368 01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:03,559 Speaker 1: say an insurance plan right. Younger players tend to get 1369 01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:06,200 Speaker 1: a higher ceiling credited to them, whether it's there or 1370 01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:09,840 Speaker 1: not guys like Roger Saffold, who's in week twenty like 1371 01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:13,720 Speaker 1: this last week he was in week twenty of year thirteen. 1372 01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:16,400 Speaker 1: You kind of know what you're gonna get with Roger Saffield, 1373 01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:20,800 Speaker 1: and that may be enough. But if you've got a 1374 01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,000 Speaker 1: guy that may be give you more than that, he 1375 01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:25,280 Speaker 1: might roll the dice on the guy, you know, a 1376 01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:28,240 Speaker 1: draft pick or a free agent or whoever. But at 1377 01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:30,680 Speaker 1: least with Roger Saffold, you know where the floor is 1378 01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:32,760 Speaker 1: and you can help him and do things, and you 1379 01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:34,519 Speaker 1: can you know what you can ask of him, and 1380 01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:37,760 Speaker 1: it gives you some confidence in those things. A young 1381 01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:41,000 Speaker 1: guy gives you less confidence in everything, but maybe a 1382 01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:44,880 Speaker 1: chance to get better in all those things. That's that's 1383 01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:48,400 Speaker 1: where we're at. Yeah, we gotta take a break here, 1384 01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:50,120 Speaker 1: but when we come back, we're gonna crack open the 1385 01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:52,840 Speaker 1: tweet sheet get some more of your thoughts on how 1386 01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:57,559 Speaker 1: you think the Bills in twenty twenty three might be 1387 01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:59,920 Speaker 1: able to lighten Josh Allen's load and make things easy 1388 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:03,000 Speaker 1: or form just a little bit. We're back here in 1389 01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,400 Speaker 1: a moment on one Bill's Live, presented by Collot of Health, 1390 01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:09,200 Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio All right. Welcome back to one 1391 01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:11,559 Speaker 1: Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, asking you 1392 01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:14,080 Speaker 1: what's the most effective way to take the load off 1393 01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:16,479 Speaker 1: Josh Allen next season, make things a little easier for 1394 01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:20,559 Speaker 1: him and for answers. We can only go to one place. 1395 01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,960 Speaker 1: The tweet sheet brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, 1396 01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:27,320 Speaker 1: the official equipment moving specialists of the Buffalo Bill. Every 1397 01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:30,080 Speaker 1: question you've ever wanted to know, if you ask it, 1398 01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:33,479 Speaker 1: it's like a magic hate boats. That's right, I mean 1399 01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:36,200 Speaker 1: it is. It will always come up with an answer. Yes, 1400 01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:41,200 Speaker 1: prospects look cloudy. Yeah. Anthony leads us off and says, 1401 01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:45,240 Speaker 1: bring in competition for right tackle. But I'm hoping Spencer 1402 01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:49,040 Speaker 1: Brown makes a jump having a full off season, find 1403 01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:51,840 Speaker 1: a new right guard and move Bates back to left guard, 1404 01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:54,719 Speaker 1: and hopefully Shakier can be more of a true number 1405 01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:58,760 Speaker 1: two or get one. So it sounds like Anthony is 1406 01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:04,040 Speaker 1: hopeful that certain players can take in another step that 1407 01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:06,960 Speaker 1: are already on the roster. But it sounds like he 1408 01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:10,840 Speaker 1: wants insurance plans in place. It's like every yeah, and 1409 01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:15,519 Speaker 1: it's a it's an adage. If you can get a 1410 01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:18,160 Speaker 1: player that's better than the one you got, particularly if 1411 01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:22,080 Speaker 1: it's cheaper, get it. And if it's not cheaper, how 1412 01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:24,200 Speaker 1: much more expensive is it going to be? But you 1413 01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:26,559 Speaker 1: need to bring in guys at every position to make 1414 01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:29,080 Speaker 1: these guys better or to get better. A better guy 1415 01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:32,000 Speaker 1: that and that's it. Foster better competition and maybe that 1416 01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:34,559 Speaker 1: guy does take an extra step. Coaches are all about that, 1417 01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:36,400 Speaker 1: and I think for the most part, players are too. 1418 01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:41,800 Speaker 1: Um they're not afraid of it. Most players at this level, 1419 01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:44,760 Speaker 1: you can't be Yeah, you've met every level of competition 1420 01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:46,679 Speaker 1: that's been thrown at you. That's right, and that's what's 1421 01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:51,719 Speaker 1: Kenny on the tweet sheet says, I haven't seen an 1422 01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:56,479 Speaker 1: executed screen pass in six years the offense. I'm guessing 1423 01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:59,640 Speaker 1: he's talking about a traditional screen. The offense needs to 1424 01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:01,920 Speaker 1: deliver some layups. To Josh, it can't be a three 1425 01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:06,200 Speaker 1: step drop and shotgun every single play. I would agree 1426 01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:10,200 Speaker 1: with that. It'd be nice to see a traditional screen 1427 01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:12,280 Speaker 1: show up every now and again. For some reason, it 1428 01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:16,640 Speaker 1: proved to be a monumental task for this offense. For 1429 01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:21,679 Speaker 1: whatever reason. Now they ran different kinds of screens, mostly 1430 01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:24,920 Speaker 1: out in space. You know of the bubble screen variety 1431 01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:28,120 Speaker 1: or receiver or even a back lined up wide, and 1432 01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:31,960 Speaker 1: they would execute them that way. Occasionally you'd see like 1433 01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:34,080 Speaker 1: one of those slip screens or something, or a tight 1434 01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:36,720 Speaker 1: end screen even once in a while, but usually the 1435 01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:39,200 Speaker 1: quick screen to the wide side or whatever. Yeah, but 1436 01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:42,519 Speaker 1: it was even that was a mixed bag in terms 1437 01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:47,880 Speaker 1: of effectiveness. So for whatever reason it was, it was 1438 01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:52,000 Speaker 1: a chore for them to execute screens, and as such, 1439 01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:55,679 Speaker 1: they didn't call a lot of them. Yeah, I've always said, 1440 01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,479 Speaker 1: you know, you'd give you do what people give you 1441 01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:02,639 Speaker 1: to do. I mean, you take what the defense gives you. 1442 01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:06,240 Speaker 1: When you got a quarterback like Josh, the defense doesn't 1443 01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:08,280 Speaker 1: rush you the same as they do if you're Joe 1444 01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:11,400 Speaker 1: Burrow or if you're or if you're whatever. They don't 1445 01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:17,200 Speaker 1: rush Pat Mahomes that way. You know. The Chiefs run 1446 01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:21,720 Speaker 1: a ton of those shovel passes. That's particularly down on 1447 01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:25,160 Speaker 1: the red zone. They run that a lot. Those don't 1448 01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:27,760 Speaker 1: seem to work as well for Buffalo because when Josh 1449 01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:30,559 Speaker 1: drops back to pass, he drops back to pass, he 1450 01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:34,360 Speaker 1: doesn't really run off. They don't roll him out. A 1451 01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:36,400 Speaker 1: lot of teams don't want that to happen anyway, so 1452 01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:40,680 Speaker 1: they do that. Plus teams have stopped rushing past Josh. 1453 01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,040 Speaker 1: So you know, those defensive ends when Josh drops back, 1454 01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:45,920 Speaker 1: even if he's under center, drops back five steps, seven steps, 1455 01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:49,559 Speaker 1: the ends come off the edges around both left tackle 1456 01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:54,720 Speaker 1: and right tackle, they have stopped, except in certain situations 1457 01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:59,160 Speaker 1: that most of the time they stop where Josh stops. 1458 01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:01,040 Speaker 1: They stop at the top. But Josh's drop they don't 1459 01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:03,080 Speaker 1: go past him, so they don't open up a lane 1460 01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,800 Speaker 1: between the defensive tackle and the defensive end where the 1461 01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:08,040 Speaker 1: ends all the way past Josh and the tackles up 1462 01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:10,240 Speaker 1: here at the line of scrimmage. So Josh just moves 1463 01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:12,559 Speaker 1: out to that way there's a big screen. They stopped 1464 01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:17,200 Speaker 1: doing that. That takes away any chance to run a 1465 01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:19,800 Speaker 1: screen pass. So too do all the times that he 1466 01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:22,120 Speaker 1: sees a spy out there, there's an extra defender're just 1467 01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:25,400 Speaker 1: sitting there. And if you're running a screen pass when 1468 01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:27,599 Speaker 1: they have a spy for Josh on a certain down 1469 01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:30,719 Speaker 1: and distance, guess what they got an extra defender sitting 1470 01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:32,960 Speaker 1: there waiting and to go attack the football. And I'll 1471 01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:35,720 Speaker 1: say this too, you would think in this regard that 1472 01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:38,719 Speaker 1: you'd see be able to run more screens because teams 1473 01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:44,280 Speaker 1: are hesitant to run man coverage against the Bills, because 1474 01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:46,960 Speaker 1: you got the receivers running up and the defensive backs 1475 01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:49,320 Speaker 1: are running with their backs to Josh looking at the 1476 01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:53,080 Speaker 1: receiver and Josh's pull it down and chase him right 1477 01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:54,920 Speaker 1: he just runs it for snaps off a twenty six 1478 01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:58,439 Speaker 1: yard run. They don't want that to happen, particularly since 1479 01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:01,639 Speaker 1: Josh can get away from most spy eyes. But that 1480 01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:06,439 Speaker 1: means that teams play more zone, and it's usually that's 1481 01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:10,040 Speaker 1: when you run screen passes because if you got us, 1482 01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:12,439 Speaker 1: if you got a man coverage, somebody's on the back 1483 01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:14,160 Speaker 1: that you're gonna throw the screen too. He just gets 1484 01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:15,639 Speaker 1: up and he's all in the middle of the screen 1485 01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:18,880 Speaker 1: pass and it's hard for the offensive lineman to back up, 1486 01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:22,559 Speaker 1: let their guy go and then get that guy before 1487 01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:26,080 Speaker 1: he's right and where he's you're trying to throw the pass. 1488 01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:29,599 Speaker 1: So you would think in that respect, seeing more zone 1489 01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:31,880 Speaker 1: would give you a chance to run more screens. It 1490 01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:34,160 Speaker 1: has not worked out that way. Like I said, the 1491 01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:37,599 Speaker 1: pass rush has changed and evolved around Josh, where these 1492 01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:42,200 Speaker 1: guys don't run past him and teams are just more 1493 01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:45,200 Speaker 1: for whatever he's Maybe we thought maybe it was because 1494 01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:48,519 Speaker 1: they didn't have athletic or mobile offensive lineman. Mitch Morse 1495 01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:50,599 Speaker 1: is out running out around the end. He's mobile enough 1496 01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:53,240 Speaker 1: to get out there, and so is Don But I 1497 01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,320 Speaker 1: think it has more to do with the fact that 1498 01:22:55,439 --> 01:22:58,880 Speaker 1: Josh Allen's your quarterback and these defenses are looking at 1499 01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:02,240 Speaker 1: him and they play him differently, And one of the 1500 01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:06,559 Speaker 1: by products of that is if you're gonna run a screen, Josh, 1501 01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:09,080 Speaker 1: you gotta throw it quick right now instead of dropping 1502 01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:11,519 Speaker 1: back and then dropping back a little more and then 1503 01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:14,960 Speaker 1: dumping it. I just don't think that's conducive to wade 1504 01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:16,960 Speaker 1: teams play against Josh Allen. I don't think it has 1505 01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:18,320 Speaker 1: to do with the offensive line. I think it has 1506 01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:21,320 Speaker 1: to do with Josh. Ryan on the tweet sheet says, 1507 01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:23,439 Speaker 1: Mauler's in the run game, so we can run the 1508 01:23:23,479 --> 01:23:27,439 Speaker 1: football without Josh Allen. A wide receiver too that can 1509 01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:30,479 Speaker 1: get separation, a running back that can tote the ball 1510 01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:33,760 Speaker 1: twenty two times for one hundred and twenty yards, utilizing 1511 01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,640 Speaker 1: James Cook in the pass game more. I like some 1512 01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:39,040 Speaker 1: of those things, Ryan, but I don't know if you're 1513 01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:41,600 Speaker 1: ever going to see a running back unless it is 1514 01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:45,639 Speaker 1: a blinding snowstorm with driving wind run twenty two times 1515 01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:48,280 Speaker 1: in a game. I think the Bills, even when they 1516 01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:51,200 Speaker 1: do run the football, do it in a committee fashion. 1517 01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:54,360 Speaker 1: And whether Devin Singletary is here or not next year, 1518 01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:58,439 Speaker 1: knowing he's a free agent, it would be cooking hind 1519 01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:00,400 Speaker 1: split in the load, I would be. I would be 1520 01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:02,320 Speaker 1: okay with most of that, except I don't want to. 1521 01:24:02,360 --> 01:24:04,679 Speaker 1: I want a running back that carries it fifteen times 1522 01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:10,400 Speaker 1: for eighty yards eighty five yards. That's what I would 1523 01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:13,760 Speaker 1: rather have. I don't want anybody having it twenty two 1524 01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:19,120 Speaker 1: times running it unless you're a head by, unless you're 1525 01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:21,559 Speaker 1: a head by twenty five or twenty eight points and 1526 01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:23,840 Speaker 1: it's the second half of the game, then okay, fine, 1527 01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:28,240 Speaker 1: give give them the ball thirty times. But yeah, it's 1528 01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:30,200 Speaker 1: just not the most efficient way to move the football. 1529 01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:34,000 Speaker 1: And I get it. It's it makes fans feel warm 1530 01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:36,320 Speaker 1: and safe. When you got a running game, you just 1531 01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:39,600 Speaker 1: hand it off all day and just you know, it's 1532 01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:43,320 Speaker 1: six yards here, six yards there, first down six yards here, 1533 01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:48,240 Speaker 1: three yards here, and four yards there. It's another first down. 1534 01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:50,280 Speaker 1: Let's just keep handing it off. It looks so easy 1535 01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:51,960 Speaker 1: and it makes takes all the stress out. And I 1536 01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,280 Speaker 1: get it. That's never gonna happen. Ever, it's good to 1537 01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:56,880 Speaker 1: have when you have the lead. Though, if you are up, 1538 01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:59,960 Speaker 1: it's a good way to shorten the game, so to speak. 1539 01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:02,360 Speaker 1: It's not the most efficient way to score points, but 1540 01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:06,000 Speaker 1: it is an efficient way to kill a game, shorten 1541 01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:09,000 Speaker 1: it and keep the clock moving, which is Mark's point 1542 01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:11,280 Speaker 1: here on the Tweetchee who says running game to keep 1543 01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:15,360 Speaker 1: defenses honest. That will help with game and clock management 1544 01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:20,320 Speaker 1: make Josh running harder to deal with by virtue of having, 1545 01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:24,880 Speaker 1: you know, a productive running attack that doesn't just involve Josh, 1546 01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:29,960 Speaker 1: it involves actual running backs. Totally get it. And if 1547 01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:31,920 Speaker 1: you can have a running game that you can turn 1548 01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:35,719 Speaker 1: to whether your pass games out of sink or whether 1549 01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:38,480 Speaker 1: you want to kill a game because you're up by seventeen, 1550 01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:45,080 Speaker 1: having that would be nice. Yeah, yes it would. But 1551 01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:48,879 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean just because you're up twenty five points 1552 01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:51,760 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you can't keep doing what you've been doing 1553 01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:54,320 Speaker 1: to get there in the first place. To doing Yeah, 1554 01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:57,760 Speaker 1: it's more risky though, as we learned this year. Yeah, 1555 01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:00,479 Speaker 1: so it's not. No, it's not. It's more risky than 1556 01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:03,639 Speaker 1: handing it off every time, but it's also more probable 1557 01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:07,920 Speaker 1: that you're gonna make that first down. So if you 1558 01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:10,559 Speaker 1: want to do that, that's fine. I just just soon 1559 01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:14,160 Speaker 1: keep playing offense. And that's what nobody is willing to do. 1560 01:26:14,200 --> 01:26:19,240 Speaker 1: And I don't know why. Yeah, play, I don't, you know, 1561 01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:23,840 Speaker 1: don't stop doing what gave you twenty five point lead. 1562 01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:26,880 Speaker 1: Don't hide from it, don't yeah, don't run off and 1563 01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:33,000 Speaker 1: hide play. And I know it's easy to say that hypothetically, 1564 01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:38,120 Speaker 1: but good grief. I mean, the only we got to 1565 01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:40,000 Speaker 1: one point. I was watching these games. We got to 1566 01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:41,920 Speaker 1: one point this last year in the Pittsburgh game where 1567 01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:45,320 Speaker 1: you know, case kingdoms on the field, you know, just 1568 01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:50,960 Speaker 1: for kicks and giggles. So yeah, I don't just play. 1569 01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:54,400 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't need a running game in case 1570 01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:57,200 Speaker 1: we get up. If we get up, what do we 1571 01:26:57,200 --> 01:27:06,439 Speaker 1: need to running game? Four? Come on? So I get it, 1572 01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:09,519 Speaker 1: you know, it's pretty frustrating. It what's really frustrating You 1573 01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:13,800 Speaker 1: go out there and throw three in completions and go 1574 01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:19,040 Speaker 1: three and out. Yeah, I get that, but man, oh man, yeah, 1575 01:27:19,439 --> 01:27:21,600 Speaker 1: it's a it's a I mean, I guess it's a 1576 01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:24,280 Speaker 1: good dilemma to have. But we have to take a 1577 01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:26,479 Speaker 1: break here when we come back. Some final thoughts on 1578 01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:28,479 Speaker 1: the tweet sheet here on One Bill's Life presented by 1579 01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:43,519 Speaker 1: Collid to Health, this is Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right. 1580 01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:45,960 Speaker 1: Some final thoughts on the tweet sheet here, Paul says 1581 01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:49,240 Speaker 1: adding weapons around him while Josh while supplying a good 1582 01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:51,439 Speaker 1: offensive line. So I mean it's not always running around 1583 01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:54,360 Speaker 1: in the pocket and force something down the field. Philip 1584 01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:59,000 Speaker 1: says easy scheme throws, screens and play action quick throws 1585 01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:01,599 Speaker 1: that get yards after the Cats should include more targets 1586 01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:04,760 Speaker 1: for slot knocks and running backs. Improved a line that 1587 01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:07,160 Speaker 1: allows for running game to truly attack the week's side. 1588 01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:11,519 Speaker 1: Make teams defend sideline to sideline. Danielle says line, yes, 1589 01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:15,160 Speaker 1: we have weapons though digs Davis Cook knocks Conca should 1590 01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:17,839 Speaker 1: be getting the job done. Maybe better play calling question 1591 01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:21,439 Speaker 1: mark Buffalo guy, oh line upgrades, getting the run game 1592 01:28:21,479 --> 01:28:23,439 Speaker 1: more involved. If we have a running back that Josh 1593 01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:25,880 Speaker 1: trust to get the tough yards, it might help with 1594 01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:31,280 Speaker 1: the workload that he shoulders. And Ronald says a stud 1595 01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:38,479 Speaker 1: running back boo, all right, easy peasy, Oh, I'm telling 1596 01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:40,320 Speaker 1: good players make you better than the Bills have got 1597 01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:42,280 Speaker 1: their work cutout for him, getting them getting all these 1598 01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:44,759 Speaker 1: guys into training camp. That's going to be the job 1599 01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:49,559 Speaker 1: going forward, and we'll just you know, sit and watch him. 1600 01:28:49,720 --> 01:28:54,360 Speaker 1: That's all the stuff is good. They're gonna have eighty 1601 01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:57,240 Speaker 1: five guys going into training camp. It's gonna be fun 1602 01:28:57,240 --> 01:29:00,000 Speaker 1: to see him compete and see if they can get better. Yeah, 1603 01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:01,960 Speaker 1: and you know people talk about, oh, we need this 1604 01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:03,920 Speaker 1: in the draft, we need that in the draft. Don't forget. 1605 01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:08,080 Speaker 1: Free agency comes first. And as we know, Brandon Bean 1606 01:29:08,439 --> 01:29:11,720 Speaker 1: likes to cross off as many positional holes as he 1607 01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:15,680 Speaker 1: can before he even gets to the draft. So you 1608 01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:17,400 Speaker 1: know he can draft truly the way he wants to. 1609 01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:21,320 Speaker 1: Which is better, best player available. But good stuff. That's 1610 01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:24,519 Speaker 1: it for us today. We'll see you back here, same 1611 01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:31,960 Speaker 1: bad time, same bad channel. We'll see it one