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THERÉSA: Yes, that's right, Merlin, good hoot! Welcome back everyone. It's

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THERÉSA: a busy day here at Haunting HQ. With the help

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THERÉSA: of a very high profile animal expert who shall not

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THERÉSA: be named rhymes with bleep Burbwin, I've started Merlin on

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THERÉSA: a strict clicker training program

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THERÉSA: a man man,

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THERÉSA: Yes, Len, fine. It was mandated after he attacked that

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THERÉSA: finance guy in Central Park. Merlin, down! Good boy. Luckily

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THERÉSA: they're doing incredible things with glass eyes these days. Also,

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THERÉSA: I'm about to meet with my new caseworker for the

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THERÉSA: first time. Some of you may remember, Sharon and I

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THERÉSA: had to part ways for personal reasons. She personally accused

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THERÉSA: me of verbal assault. Anywho, my new caseworker is some

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THERÉSA: guy named Lord Kingswell Herringbottom. He sounds stuffy, but no

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THERÉSA: one can be as bad as Sharon. All that matters

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THERÉSA: is that he gets me out of purgatory. Up or

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THERÉSA: down at this point, I don't even care. I've got

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THERÉSA: to run to my meeting, but I'm leaving you in

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THERÉSA: the very responsible hands of Celene, an experienced babysitter who

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THERÉSA: scored the ideal gig, the kind where you show up

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THERÉSA: for bedtime, raid the pantry and veg out to their

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THERÉSA: HBO subscription. Only we don't work in ideals here on Haunting,

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THERÉSA: so instead of a night of pop tarts and Sex

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THERÉSA: in the City, Celene's experience ended up being completely harrowing.

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THERÉSA: Take a listen.

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STORY A: The little girl was sitting next to me. We're watching TV,

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STORY A: and I saw this huge thing peering in. My name

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STORY A: is Celene. About ten years ago, the little girl I

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STORY A: I was babysitting through this app for a couple of years.

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STORY A: I would see about four to five families a week,

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STORY A: right off the bat the house was freaky. It was

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STORY A: a little bit of an older house, overgrown garden, just

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STORY A: gave me the instructions and said, my daughter's not sleeping

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STORY A: this thing was wearing a wide brimmed hat, and it

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STORY A: like it's observing us. Once I saw it, it kind

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STORY A: of whooshed away. It's just gone. I'm shocked. I'm questioning

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STORY A: Fight or flight? I'm flight. I picked her up quickly

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STORY A: like a little snack bowl of cereal. She says nothing,

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STORY A: At this point it's maybe three am, I was texting

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STORY A: Wait there until the mom got home, but I never

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STORY A: I was just about to get into the car. The

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STORY A: I was so scared. I wanted to get out as

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STORY A: month later, I went past the house and it was

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STORY A: I did some digging. Apparently there had been some deaths,

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STORY A: specifically suicides in that house. I just always tended to

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STORY A: lean on the skeptic side. I would always be like,

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STORY A: it's not real or no such thing as ghosts. But

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STORY A: once you have an experience, that changes your outlook. I

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THERÉSA: Sorry, sorry, sorry, I'm back. I'm back. I'm back, I'm back.

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THERÉSA: We went a little over our time. But wow, you guys,

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THERÉSA: Lord HerringBbottom, butterflies, Merlin, Merlin, No, oh great, he's shredding

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THERÉSA: Len's notes. He gets upset when I leave. Drop it,

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THERÉSA: That's a good baby. We're gonna take an ad break while

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THERÉSA: Len cleans up all this paper.

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THERÉSA: As I was saying, you guys, I'm in love. It

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THERÉSA: laid eyes on Lord Herringbottom, I felt alive again. There

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THERÉSA: was real chemistry. First of all, he's incredibly handsome. He

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THERÉSA: does dress like a wealthy medieval child. Well, I mean

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THERÉSA: he is a wealthy medieval child, but it doesn't bother me.

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THERÉSA: He has that swoopy hair like Leo in Titanic, and

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THERÉSA: Gone really from the typhoid, but by today's standards it's hot.

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THERÉSA: He's been dead a long time, but even when I

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LEN: [MUMBLES]

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THERÉSA: I read Len all the time. What can I say?

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THERÉSA: I love an old soul. He said, he's gonna review

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THERÉSA: my case and see what he can do to move

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THERÉSA: the needle on my afterlife situation. Except now I'm like,

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THERÉSA: do I even want to cross over? This is crazy,

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THERÉSA: you guys, I'm being insane. My heart is being so fast.

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THERÉSA: Well I guess not, but it would be if it could.

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THERÉSA: Get it together, Therésa. You're a catch! Lord Herringbottom should

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THERÉSA: be so lucky. I'm good. I'm good, I'm cool. I'm cool.

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THERÉSA: Our next story comes to us from Kate, whose supernatural

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THERÉSA: experience at a house in Oklahoma was the answer. Len

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THERÉSA: not necessary!

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LEN: [MUMBLES]

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THERÉSA: whose supernatural experiences at a house in Oklahoma was the

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THERÉSA: answer to her prayers.

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THERÉSA: It's not funny. It's actually really disrespectful.

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STORY B: I'm Kate. Some prayers are best left unanswered. I was

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STORY B: four years old. We were living in the Bay Area.

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STORY B: My parents had been divorced for a couple years, and

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STORY B: my mom was dating her boyfriend Tom for about a

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STORY B: year and a half. They were actually newly engaged, and

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STORY B: he had a daughter the same age as me, Sarah.

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STORY B: It was a very typical night. We were just over

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STORY B: at their house having a family dinner. Me and Sarah

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STORY B: had gone to play outside after dinner and we were

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STORY B: playing Simon says, so I was copying every single thing

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STORY B: that she was doing. We can see into the kitchen

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STORY B: through the window and she sees her dad, Tom, just collapse,

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STORY B: It was definitely traumatizing. I remember feeling upset for my

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STORY B: heard about this praying thing. I know someone who was dead,

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STORY B: more time? And that was it. I didn't really think

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STORY B: if you're there, show me yourself, if this is real,

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STORY B: if you're really gone, if people could meet ghosts, if

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STORY B: stories that I'd ever heard. I was like, then just

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STORY B: for a sign. I wasn't asking like show me a butterfly.

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STORY B: I was like, get down here. I said, this little

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STORY B: looking in at me. But like I said before, that

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STORY B: whole right side of the house was on I don't

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STORY B: want to say a cliff, because that sounds very dramatic,

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STORY B: but I also knew that I was responsible. I was terrified.

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STORY B: I felt like I had summoned something that I didn't

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STORY B: mean to what I had been asking for all these years.

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STORY B: There it was. And then I thought, this is scary.

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STORY B: I've bit off more than I can chew, and I

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STORY B: I said out loud, Hi, Tom, thank you so much.

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STORY B: I'm like climbing down the bunk bed ladder talking at

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STORY B: the silhouette in the window, and I think I said,

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STORY B: this is a little too scary for me right now

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STORY B: I got to go, and I ran out of the bedroom.

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STORY B: I did not look behind me when I left the room.

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STORY B: I knew that no one was following me out of there,

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STORY B: because nobody was in there. Just the way that his

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STORY B: No body was in there. And then I was calm,

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STORY B: cool and collected poker face. Go outside, see my grandparents,

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STORY B: see my stepmom, my sister, just talking. I think I

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STORY B: did feel a heaviness. I remember just kind of walking

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STORY B: saw a ghost in the room, and she was like,

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STORY B: I believe you. And then she told me that she'd

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STORY B: woken up around twilight and she just fixed the blanket

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STORY B: over her and my sister, and when she pulled the

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STORY B: so she just saw legs and she said that she'd

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STORY B: peeked out and looked in that he had been standing

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STORY B: there looking up at me. But of course, in the

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STORY B: moment she thought she was sleeping. I told her that

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STORY B: I had also seen a man at the window, and

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STORY B: She was like, okay, we saw same thing. And I

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STORY B: was like, I've been asking to see him. Actually, I

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STORY B: summoned him. That was Tom. I've been praying to see

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STORY B: him for years. I never saw Tom again. This situation,

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STORY B: with him dying in front of me, with my mom

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STORY B: who didn't know that i'd been asking these questions, share

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STORY B: I'm like, God, if there's a god, if there's a way,

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STORY B: keep it all from me. I don't know why certain

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STORY B: things happened to some people, and certain things don't. I

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STORY B: a sensitivity to things. I don't know why he was

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STORY B: at my bedside. That is one of the questions that

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STORY B: There have been times in my life where I have

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STORY B: or what I need to do, and I'll like wake

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STORY B: up the next morning just boom answered Like. I've probably

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STORY B: it really freaks me out. I haven't even wanted to

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STORY B: like dive deeper into any of that. So I never

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THERÉSA: Be careful what you wish for, I guess. It's funny.

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THERÉSA: My mom had a lot of boyfriends and I was

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THERÉSA: always praying for the drop dead part. Actually one of

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THERÉSA: them did, Terry. He died when his body rejected the

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THERÉSA: hair plugs used in his eyebrow transplant. Looked great in

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THERÉSA: the open casket, though. Maybe I should look him up.

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THERÉSA: Well, that's our show. Good luck to all the babysitters

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THERÉSA: out there who don't know what they're getting themselves into.

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THERÉSA: And if you've ever been Haunted on the job. Email

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THERÉSA: us at HauntingThePodcast@gmail.com and you could share your story on

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THERÉSA: an upcoming episode. I'll keep you guys posted on how

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THERÉSA: things develop with Herringbottom. I'm gonna go read the Gutenberg

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THERÉSA: Bible so we have something to talk about my next

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THERÉSA: case management meeting. See yuh.

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CREDITS: by Oliver Baines and Dorry Macaulay of Noiser. Music library

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CREDITS: Glass Podcasts, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever

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CREDITS: you get your podcasts,