WEBVTT - Pats from the Past, Episode 44: Mike Vrabel

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<v Speaker 1>It's time now for another episode of Patch from the

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<v Speaker 1>Past podcast, Matt Smith and polp Row joined by the

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<v Speaker 1>newest member of the Patriots Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Rabel and boy for two people.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you'd think we're going to be byes U,

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<v Speaker 1>but we were on the table, Mike pounding every single.

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<v Speaker 2>Year, give rabel in, get rabel in. Finally year in.

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<v Speaker 2>What was the experience like for you yesterday? Like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it was amazing it just to come up and the

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<v Speaker 2>reception that we received, my family received, that I received

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<v Speaker 2>from the first of all the fans that were here

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<v Speaker 2>in the rain, and again I know that I wish

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<v Speaker 2>that we could have had the fans, but we didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was an intimate reception, just a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of emotion. I don't think I've given myself a chance

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<v Speaker 2>to just to go back and reflect on that, on

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<v Speaker 2>the eight years here and the success and the teammates,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that was probably the coolest thing was

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<v Speaker 2>to see them and see Dante and be able to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just catch up and you know, just see

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<v Speaker 2>how excited everybody is for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Can we go back to the start of that eight

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<v Speaker 3>years and you know, sort of run us through your

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<v Speaker 3>free agent visit here. We've heard a lot of stories

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<v Speaker 3>about how it's not overly glamorous when.

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<v Speaker 1>Line that they wind and Dinahim at the ground round.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you were. I was with Anthony

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<v Speaker 2>Pleasant and so we probably got a little nicer experience.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we actually went to the Capitol Grill in

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<v Speaker 2>just nut Hill. Yeah, so because I think Bill had

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<v Speaker 2>had history with with Anthony Pleasant, so he was probably like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>let me take Anthony for for a nice meal. And

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<v Speaker 2>but it was just you know, visit at the stadium

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<v Speaker 2>in old Foxboro Stadium. And you know, again this isn't

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<v Speaker 2>These aren't recruiting trips. These are trips to to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that you know, this is the player that we

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<v Speaker 2>want to target, and the player can ask questions and

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<v Speaker 2>get information and then make a decision. And so didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have a whole lot of options, and this one was certainly,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you know, the best one for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you you said yesterday during your speech that it

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<v Speaker 1>was important for you to start. You know, in four

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<v Speaker 1>years you did a lot, but you wanted to start.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you get a sense maybe on that visit or

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<v Speaker 1>early on Mike that these guys had a good idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Of how to use you. Well. I can remember having

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<v Speaker 2>a conversation with Bill and him saying, hey, really, all

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<v Speaker 2>we need is what you did in that preseason game

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<v Speaker 2>last year against Miami. And I'm thinking I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>remember playing Miami in the preseason. But Bill had gone

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<v Speaker 2>back and he had watched and there were clips that

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<v Speaker 2>he must have seen that there was a vision for

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<v Speaker 2>probably an extended playtime at that point in time in

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<v Speaker 2>the preseason or whatever it was. And so then I

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<v Speaker 2>started thinking, Okay, well, at least you know they have

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<v Speaker 2>an idea of how they want to use me or

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<v Speaker 2>what I maybe able to do there. Bill had talked

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<v Speaker 2>about the opportunity, not guaranteeing anything, but saying that there

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<v Speaker 2>would be a spot at you know, available pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>at outside linebacker where you know, they would have some

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<v Speaker 2>other players to compete with, and then see where things were.

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<v Speaker 3>When you look at the way your years unfolded, it's

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<v Speaker 3>almost like it was a perfect system for you. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>did you catch that right away, like they really want

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<v Speaker 3>to use me exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>To well, I don't think I wasn't being misused in Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 2>I had just transitioned from a couple of different positions,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, was rotating in and was getting some playing

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<v Speaker 2>time three and four years in special teams and third

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<v Speaker 2>down packages, whatever that may be. But this was a

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<v Speaker 2>new opportunity, some carryover from Pittsburgh, some different and then

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<v Speaker 2>as things progressed and it was you know, learn this position. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I played two seasons inside linebacker or a

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<v Speaker 2>season and a half at some point in time, and

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<v Speaker 2>you'll find myself at different spots, do you.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard this from many ex players, guys who you

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<v Speaker 1>played with and everything like that. Were you able to

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<v Speaker 1>get away with more as far as like maybe busting.

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<v Speaker 2>Bill's Paul, Well, I don't know. I think the time

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<v Speaker 2>is is that overrated? No, I don't think it's overrated.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that there is. Like I said yesterday, I

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<v Speaker 2>think I said things that everybody wanted to say, and

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<v Speaker 2>I probably was just dumb enough to say it. I

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes say the quiet part out loud sometimes unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's all timing and sometimes you know it. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's a it's a turn to punch bowl and

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't always work, but sometimes it works out pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>But but that takes a little bit of time and

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<v Speaker 2>it takes you know, again, you have to be willing

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<v Speaker 2>to take it and if you want to give it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that Bill always was very conscious of that,

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<v Speaker 2>whether that's players to Bill or Bill to us. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>he knew that, you know, we had to sit there

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<v Speaker 2>and and take it when we got the low lights

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, we'd be on the bellustrator and it

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<v Speaker 2>would be like, you know, what we can't do? And

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<v Speaker 2>so it just it was a good situation with a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of really good teammates that that all kind of

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<v Speaker 2>rallied behind that.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think maybe, I mean, you were able to

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<v Speaker 1>back it up with you play though, Mike, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if if that's a fifty third or fifty fourth

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<v Speaker 1>guy that was trying to crack wise, it might be different. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you you were a community eye on all three phases

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<v Speaker 1>of the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, but I think that that's what makes

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<v Speaker 2>a locker room. It's just different personalities. Again, you have

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<v Speaker 2>to perform on the field and then whatever your personality is.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that was there was no restrictions on Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we can just want a bunch of robots. That's I

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<v Speaker 2>think that was the impression that everybody had and we

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<v Speaker 2>certainly weren't that. Well.

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<v Speaker 3>The best thing about Mike, and I told you this

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<v Speaker 3>a million times, Mike didn't care who he was busting on.

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<v Speaker 3>Professional I used to call you a professional ballbuster.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what you were.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd come in with like a TV shirt on one

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<v Speaker 3>day and you go, look at this fraud. He's got

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<v Speaker 3>TV and it didn't matter. He treated all of us

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<v Speaker 3>the same, And I think that's probably permeated the locker

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<v Speaker 3>and guarded respect in that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, again, I think the fact that if you have

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<v Speaker 2>a relationship with somebody, I think that's when you kind

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<v Speaker 2>of go back and forth with them. It's like having

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<v Speaker 2>a nickname. You don't have a nickname, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>no such thing as a bad nickname. Just be appreciative

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<v Speaker 2>that you have a nickname. That means that they know

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<v Speaker 2>who you are and that you're kind of a part

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<v Speaker 2>of the group. And if you don't have a nickname,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you better try to figure out why. And

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<v Speaker 2>so it was, whether it was a relationship with the media,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it was a two way street. Assistant coaches

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<v Speaker 2>and certainly teammates. Much has been made.

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<v Speaker 1>You played in a different era, believe it or not,

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<v Speaker 1>where and as during your career, the league was starting

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<v Speaker 1>to legislate against defenses hard hitting and everything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>When you look back at the Warner play Ties interception,

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<v Speaker 1>I just thought it was very generous of Tie to

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<v Speaker 1>give you credit yesterday to are you going to get

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<v Speaker 1>flagged for that if that play happens today?

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<v Speaker 4>Do?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I mean, I think that what we've

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<v Speaker 2>talked about is matching the hand, and they've they've they've

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<v Speaker 2>changed here in the last year or two about what's forcible. Hell,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, you know what I mean, I should

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<v Speaker 2>have gotten there sooner, to be honest with. They didn't

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<v Speaker 2>block me. It was just a lucky play and tied

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<v Speaker 2>it all the work. And but whether it's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>as long as it's not forcible. You know, we've talked

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<v Speaker 2>about matching a hand and same thing that they teach

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<v Speaker 2>here and you know everybody else is trying to teach.

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<v Speaker 2>And didn't hit the football. I'm glad that I did

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<v Speaker 2>it so that Ty was able to catch it and score.

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<v Speaker 3>Can we ask you a little bit about tight end too,

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<v Speaker 3>and just sort of how that transition, how did it

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<v Speaker 3>come about?

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<v Speaker 2>Who's Who's I. I think Drew put it best yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a bunch of energy and it'd show up

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<v Speaker 2>three hours before the game and go out on the

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<v Speaker 2>field and Drew it would be out warming up and

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<v Speaker 2>I would start running routes and he'd say, well, this

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<v Speaker 2>is this is one, this is two, this is three,

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<v Speaker 2>four or five. Run this, you know, different routes and

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<v Speaker 2>I'd run him on the right. We'd flip around and

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<v Speaker 2>run him on the left, and then I'd go inside

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<v Speaker 2>and wait for the game. And he must have had

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<v Speaker 2>a conversation. Charlie was outside and said, hey, this guy

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<v Speaker 2>could probably do this, and we had it in. We

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<v Speaker 2>used it finally in the Chargers game in San Diego. Scored,

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<v Speaker 2>we lost the game, so it did not get much attention,

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<v Speaker 2>and then kind of snowballed from there. Whether we had

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<v Speaker 2>two tight ends active or three, sometimes that that third

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<v Speaker 2>tight end was never very happy when we got down

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<v Speaker 2>to the goal line. And you know, so those tight

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<v Speaker 2>ends probably hated the fact that I would go in

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<v Speaker 2>there at times.

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<v Speaker 1>Drew never got a chance to do that on the field.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom came in, Mike, was there a time that you

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<v Speaker 1>can think of? We remember, like you guys. The defense

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<v Speaker 1>carried that team in OH one, for sure, no doubt

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<v Speaker 1>about it, no disgrace.

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<v Speaker 2>But do you.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember time you said, you know what, this kid might

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<v Speaker 1>have something? Not obviously nobody saw where he was going

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<v Speaker 1>to wind up, but do you remember a time where

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<v Speaker 1>you said, you know what, this kid might have something.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know specifically. It's just hard for me to

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<v Speaker 2>to think back, you know, the two minute drive in

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<v Speaker 2>the Super Bowl, and I just it's just hard for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I just remember, his leadership is competitiveness. That that's what

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<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed at practice, in the building, his work ethic,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I would always see it me. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy was you know, he was powerlifting in the

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<v Speaker 2>weight room. It wasn't you know the pliability that we

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<v Speaker 2>saw later on. I mean this this guy was in

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<v Speaker 2>there working and trying to train and get stronger, and

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<v Speaker 2>he knew that he needed to develop and he needed

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<v Speaker 2>to be a stronger player. That's what I recognized. I said,

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<v Speaker 2>then this guy's in here is squatting and power cleaning,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, he's training differently than I think most

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<v Speaker 2>quarterbacks in the NFL would be.

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<v Speaker 3>At that time, when you had that streak, that winning

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<v Speaker 3>three out of four. I mean, obviously winning back to

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<v Speaker 3>back hasn't been done since.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, do you look back at that.

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<v Speaker 3>And appreciate just how special it was and what does

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<v Speaker 3>it mean to you to be part of those teams?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? I think that I don't look back enough. I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>But we expected to win, you know, I mean we did.

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<v Speaker 2>We We we had a feeling about us that when

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<v Speaker 2>we each week, it was like, Okay, what's the game

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<v Speaker 2>plan going to be and how are we going to win?

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<v Speaker 2>And we expected to win? And that is a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a powerful mindset to be in. Now, we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>win every game, but you know, rarely did did we

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<v Speaker 2>you know, were we out of a game? Or did

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<v Speaker 2>we think that we weren't going to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>compete in each game?

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<v Speaker 3>Really quick, when you talk about we expected to win,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to ask you about seven two and just

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<v Speaker 3>that mindset. Did did you feel like maybe you lost

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<v Speaker 3>some of the enjoyment because you guys were so good

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<v Speaker 3>and expected to.

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<v Speaker 2>Never lost the enjoyment. I just don't know if we

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<v Speaker 2>continue to improve. And that was the thing that I'll

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<v Speaker 2>try to explain and I always try to explain, is

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<v Speaker 2>that the Giants improved, you know, they were a wild

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<v Speaker 2>card team and they they gave us everything that that

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<v Speaker 2>we had at the end of the season, and then

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<v Speaker 2>they went on their playoff run, and we just we

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<v Speaker 2>never improved. We were good, we were really good. I

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<v Speaker 2>we just never improved, probably as the year went on.

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<v Speaker 1>Last one here, as we'll wrap things up, you said

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have time to really look back, and you

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<v Speaker 1>don't because you're always on to the next practice, the

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<v Speaker 1>next game.

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<v Speaker 2>And everything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you get a sense and I think you'll get

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit better since maybe at halftime today, do

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<v Speaker 1>you get a sense how much this region has embraced you,

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<v Speaker 1>like even though the fact you're coming here and kick

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<v Speaker 1>their ass a couple of times, but they do. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think even while you're with the opposition, they remember

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<v Speaker 1>you for those eight years here.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna probably realize that today, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>I did. I haven't been back. I mean, honestly, I

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<v Speaker 2>said that yesterday two thousand and nine. You get a

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<v Speaker 2>call being traded to the Chiefs and have been back

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<v Speaker 2>this I think maybe my fifth time. So just have

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<v Speaker 2>not been back to this stadium to this just had

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<v Speaker 2>a different after I left here, and I am excited

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<v Speaker 2>just the people that I've already seen from yesterday and today,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh, you know, it's just the people that are

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<v Speaker 2>at work here that come up and have already said

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