1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Conversations on life, style, beauty, and relationships. It's The Velvet's 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: Edge podcast with Kelly Henderson. Laura Day is here. She 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: is a New York Times bestselling author and well known 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: practicing intuitive. Can you tell us what it means to 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: be a practicing intuitive? So everybody is is intuitive, and 6 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: what intuition is is non local attention, so seeing something 7 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: that's not in front of you but actually exists, um, 8 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: being able to move your attention your senses in space 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: and time. So everyone is intuitive, and often intuition creates 10 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: quite a mess in our lives, which will will get to. 11 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: But being a practicing intuitive is when you're doing it 12 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: as a career, when you're actually applying it to real 13 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: life situations with real life results. So you mentioned that 14 00:00:55,520 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: everyone has intuition? Do some people have it wronger than others? Like? 15 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: I've always referred to myself as highly intuitive, And the 16 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: more I was researching about your work and listening to 17 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: you on other podcasts, You're like, No, everyone has this. 18 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: It's not like some people are intuitive and others aren't. 19 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: Is that right? Am I getting that right? Absolutely? Everybody 20 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: has And actually the same things that make you highly 21 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: intuitive often make you highly dysfunctional as a human, right, 22 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: you know, on on some level when we're young, the 23 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: healthy thing is to get that, you know, frontal lobe control, 24 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: and to have a good grasp of what the consensus 25 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: reality is and what often happens, especially with children of 26 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: trauma or not traditional brain types like spectrum disorders. A 27 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: d h D is that the brain functions differently and 28 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: doesn't filter out everything it's supposed to filter out. So 29 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: it can make you vulnerable in some areas, but it 30 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: makes you powerful in some others. And I think you know, 31 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: one of the things that I love about the focus 32 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: under our diversity now is that we're seeing, Oh wait, okay, 33 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: your brain doesn't work so well for memorizing the periodic tables, 34 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: but it works really well for predicting the price of oil. 35 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: Why don't we stop trying to make you memorize these 36 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: periodic tables? And why don't we train you in something different? Okay, well, 37 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: so how do we know, like you just mentioned these 38 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: skill sets, how do we even know that about ourselves? Like, 39 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: how do we know if we would be great at 40 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: predicting the price of oil? Great question? I call the 41 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: way that I train people in evidence based practice. One 42 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: of the ways to train your brain to get consistently 43 00:02:55,200 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: realistic predictive data is to pick one thing UM. In 44 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: practical intuition, I have people pick a track they like 45 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: and pick one race and predict every time that track 46 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: runs the winner of the horse race, for example, or 47 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: two predict uh, the amount of precipitation in a week. 48 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: You know, you can pick anything. The important thing is 49 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: that you get real life feedback, and it's not something 50 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: that you could have deduced in another way. And what 51 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: you do is you train that loop in yourself to say, okay, 52 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: when I pick a target, when I pick a question 53 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: or goal and I document my response, I can actually 54 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: do this. And then what happens is your subconscious which 55 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: runs of your show. Unfortunately, no matter how conscious of 56 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: being we think we are, your subconscious says, oh, this 57 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: is useful. Why don't we use this and then begins 58 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: to look for ways to apply it to your life. 59 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: Part of the problem UM with intuition in general is 60 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: that we tend to focus hyper focus on things were 61 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: afraid of UM, and we tend to repress what the 62 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: real questions we need to be asking are you know 63 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: we we asked you know, we asked will we be rich? 64 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: Will we be rich? And not, what's the next fabulous 65 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: job that can you know, take me to a fulfilling 66 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, wellfilled life for example, we don't 67 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: define our targets well. And I hate what I called 68 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: my students. I always get on them for this when 69 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: they magicalize intuition, because interview is a survival skill. It's 70 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: as skill that allows us to predict events. It allows 71 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: us to experience what someone else is thinking or feeling. 72 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: Does it do it flawlessly? No? And by the way, 73 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: the best intuitives are effective sociopaths. You know. It doesn't 74 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: have a spiritual bent. You know, Oh, you're so intuitive, 75 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: you must be so spiritual. No, you could also be 76 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: so intuitive and know how to manipulate everyone around you. 77 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: And we tend to magicalize these abilities because, like many things, 78 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: we don't completely understand them. And it's you know, listen, 79 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: it's a multibillion dollar industry spirituality, and and we tend 80 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: to make it inaccessible to ourselves by not doing simple 81 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: things like let me predict tomorrow whether the Dow will 82 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: close above or open. It's open, you know, above or 83 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: below its opening price. And then expect to be wrong 84 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: part of the time because if anyone ever tells you 85 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: they're right, whether it's your you know, your your priest, 86 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: your doctor, your parent, be suspicious because that just doesn't 87 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: in the real world. So people want to magicalize, and 88 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: people also want to find something that makes them absolutely safe, 89 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: and that of course doesn't exist. You know, they want 90 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: some power or some skill that's going to be infallible, 91 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: and that power is resilience. It's not and it's an 92 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: not spiritual, it's resilience. It's it's turning that awareness and 93 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: intuition toward those skills that allow you to bounce instead 94 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: of break. Yeah, well that's interesting because I've read a 95 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: lot about, you know, the difference between fear and anxiety 96 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: and intuition, and I could really relate to that in 97 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: my life. You know, I think as someone who can 98 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: be known to be a little hyper vigilant, That's where 99 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I'm so intuitive, but it's really a 100 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: lot of times I'm really thinking through every scenario based 101 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: off of past experiences or fears or things like that. Um, 102 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: and so what is the difference, Like, how do we 103 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: know if if something is our intuition telling us something 104 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,239 Speaker 1: or our fear trying to protect us because you did mention. 105 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: Intuition is kind of a survival skill. It it is, 106 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: and hyper vigilant people tend to also be hyperintuitive because 107 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: their awareness is going all over the place. Unfortunately, they 108 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: tend to be less effective because them in in action. 109 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: Usually they here are some cues, and you don't always know, 110 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: but some cues that it's hyper vigilance, that it's trauma 111 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: based as opposed to intuitive, and listen, trauma can be 112 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: having a brain style that didn't work for your school. 113 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: You know, trauma isn't always those Once again, those huge 114 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: cataclysmic kids can be traumatized by their fear of the dark. 115 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: So you know it's but but often repetitive fears are 116 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: not valid fears. So if you are terrified that you're 117 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: if you're intuition is telling you you're gonna die in 118 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: a plane accident, that's probably the one way you're not 119 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: going to die. You might walk into a car while 120 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: worrying about the planet, but you're not. Intuition doesn't tend 121 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: to be repetitive, and it also doesn't tend to have juice. 122 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: What I mean by juice is. Intuition is a dissociative state. 123 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: And you know, many again intuitives are anxious because they're 124 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: naturally dissociated people, and so they do kind of walk 125 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: into walls. They're not very well oriented in space and time. 126 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: But but it's when you get something you're not getting, 127 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: oh my god, this is going to happen to me, 128 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: you're almost getting oh this is happening, and then you 129 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: would repress it if you couldn't do something about it. 130 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: So you are not going to get an intuition about 131 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: your dying in the next twenty seconds because you can't, 132 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 1: because you can't do anything about it. You will, you 133 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: will get an intuition, perhaps about not getting into a 134 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 1: red car on a foggy day, and it'll come back 135 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 1: to you when you see that red car a month later, 136 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: but it'll be it'll be dispassionate, will be something you 137 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: can do something about, because otherwise, you know, we repress 138 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: a lot, and repression is a good thing. We'd all 139 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: be raping and pillaging without it. We repress a lot. 140 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: And if you can't do something about something, then your 141 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: subconscious is going to repress that intuit of awareness. That's 142 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: fascin So if it is coming to surface, it's probably 143 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 1: because you can make a decision with that information. Okay, 144 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: that's it is. It is almost always because of that, 145 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: except you know, it's a multi spoked umbrella intuition. So 146 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: for example, that precognition that's telling the future. Intuition also 147 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: includes telepathy. Often you can be picking up on someone 148 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: else's anxiety. My son used to call me from school 149 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: and say, must stop worrying. I have a French test 150 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: because do that, especially with people who are connected to 151 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: which is why you're living with an anxious or depressed partner. 152 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: It's really important to realize those are communicable diseases and 153 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: you need to have some practices in place so your 154 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: conversations are not their conversations. Same thing with what I 155 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: call mediumship. People think of mediumship as oh and medium 156 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: they talked to dead people know me. De ship is 157 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: becoming the object of inquiry. So here are my reading glasses. 158 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: You could become these reading glasses and you would know 159 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: a lot of important data about them. How is this 160 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: useful if you're becoming a a If you're say, becoming 161 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 1: a thousand patients sampling for a new drug against hepatitis. 162 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: Then you can feel like the new drug, Wow, it 163 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: gives this side effect. It doesn't do this. You can 164 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: become something. You can experience it from its own perspective. 165 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: So it's a multi spoked umbrella. There's remote viewing, which 166 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: is what the military was very interested in. Before we 167 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: had wonderful surveillance equipment. Remote viewing was funded and there 168 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: were so many programs at places like Duke and Stamford 169 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: and you know, back before you were born. Um. And 170 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: and that's really being able to view and describe a 171 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: remote location. And once again, we're all doing this all 172 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: the time, we're just not conscious of it. Um. And 173 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: it's only useful if it applies to something that's that's 174 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: functional in our laws. Yeah, that's interesting. Okay, So my 175 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,719 Speaker 1: question would be because the reason I even say I'm 176 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 1: highly intuitive is I don't necessarily like want the information 177 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: a lot of times about I'll especially get it during 178 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: dreams and I wake up and I'm very calm, like 179 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: there's no emotion tied to it most of the time, 180 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: but I just know something. So is that intuition, Like 181 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: I'll know something about a relationship I'm in, something that 182 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: my partner is doing like I'll just know and I 183 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: don't really know what to do with that. If it's correct, 184 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: it's intuition, it is not. If it's not, then it's 185 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: probably subconscious vombit that you're working through. Okay, it's only 186 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: intuition once it's verified. And I have to say that 187 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: as a practicing intuitive, you know, I often get up, oh, 188 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: you're off your rocker until year when I get a 189 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: thank you. And when I train intuitives, I trained them 190 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: not to you know, not to play to the choir 191 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: because because I think I might have screwed that line up, 192 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: but um, things acquire. But anyway, not not to be 193 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: a people pleaser, because an intuitive job is to be 194 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: a fly on the wall and then moved to that 195 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: wall a year later, and sometimes say things that sound crazy, 196 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: you know. My best public prediction because I try never 197 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: to predict in public because who knows If I'm wrong, 198 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: and if people follow it, then that's on me. And 199 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 1: so I'm really am careful. I mean, I'll do studio 200 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: readings for students, but not not for civilians. So so 201 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: my my most well than one was I woke up 202 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: one morning and called my broker and who later went 203 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: on CNN with this and said sell all my stocks. 204 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: And the market crashed a couple of weeks later, and 205 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: and she said at the time, you know what, this 206 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: is irresponsible, blah blah blah. And she's still my broker. 207 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: This was two thousand and eight. I think, um amazing, 208 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: and she's actually one of the top female fund managers 209 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: in the US. But but I was crazy until I 210 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: was a genius. And I think that many of us 211 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: get convinced out of the intuitions that could make us 212 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: truly successful, because in the moment, in this point in spacetime, 213 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: you're not. In this point in spacetime, you're a genius. 214 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: And so part of it is doing a risk value assessment. 215 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: If intuition off of bridge, probably the you assessment is nah, 216 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: let's get a little a more info on this one. 217 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: But if your intuition is saying, Okay, you've already made 218 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: X in the market, maybe we take a little break. 219 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: It's not your end, we can always go back, then 220 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: perhaps that is a good thing. It's very important to 221 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: not throw out your logic because you're getting a sense 222 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: of something. Intuition is part and parcel of good logic, 223 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: and actually genius you know, Uh, ceo s are genius 224 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: ceo s because they use both logic and intuition in 225 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: their practices. Yeah, that makes total sense to me. I 226 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: heard you on another podcast says something about um oftentimes 227 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: to the way we can decipher between the anxiety piece 228 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: and the intuition piece is UM asking like asking ourselves 229 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: more about the anxiety because a lot of times we 230 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: do try to push down anxious feelings. And I'm probably 231 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: butchering the way that you said it, but it was 232 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: something about basically like our own repression. Go ahead. So 233 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: what's important is people always say, well, I get a 234 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: bad feeling, and then important to say, have you had breakfast? Uh? 235 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: Is someone in your family at the dentist right now? 236 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: Maybe it's some telepathy, you know, a bad feeling about 237 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: what what does this bad feeling make you want to do? 238 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: Because what you want with intuition is for it to 239 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: be accurate and actionable, and actually an intuition has detail. 240 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: You know, people always say, oh, I feel love, I'm 241 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: not getting anymore that just doesn't exist. Or people say 242 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: I don't get anything, so I pinched them, then they 243 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: get something. You know, there's always more data in in 244 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: a feeling, and so it's not go into the anxiety, 245 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: but say, if this anxiety we're asking something of me, 246 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: what would be? And then is it something I want 247 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: to do? And and who's who does this anxiety you 248 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: feel like? Because often it's not your own. And one 249 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: of the things that we play often in adulthood, and 250 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: it's a wonderful thing to just take a step back 251 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: and look at, is sometimes we're trained into parental anxiety 252 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: and we are we are in a sense, embodying a 253 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: tone that we were raised with but has nothing to 254 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: do with reality. It's really important to reality test our anxiety. 255 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: So I was anxious yesterday, did anything happen? A week later, 256 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: I was anxious last Tuesday? Did anything happen? Gee? Nothing happened. 257 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,679 Speaker 1: So I'm going to repeat that to myself. I'm gonna 258 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: notice then when I was anxious, nothing happened. But let 259 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: me notice what else is going on? Like I forget 260 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: to eat. I'm one of those people who forgets to 261 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: eat and then I either faint or get anxious. And 262 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: I know that usually the answer to anxiety is an avocado, 263 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: you know, and not not doing some other wild thing. 264 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: I mean, once again, it's important not to catastrophize or magicalize, 265 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: and both anxiety and intuition. And you know, when I 266 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: was first studied, which was the early eighties, there wasn't 267 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: much we could see about the brain. We could see 268 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: when there was a hit or miss, for example, if 269 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: a computer would generate something, and you would predict what 270 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: the computer would generate. But there Now what we're able 271 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: to do is we're able to see that the human 272 00:18:55,080 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 1: brain responds to a computer image that has not yet 273 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: been generated because we can see what the brain is doing. 274 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 1: Now we have the instrumentation to see that. Actually, we 275 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 1: all are precognitive and and part of the problem, you know, 276 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,600 Speaker 1: my one thing that makes me nuts is people who 277 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: want their children to be more intuitive. I mean, if 278 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: you think of what you do as an adult, and 279 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: you want your five year old to be able to 280 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: pass boundaries and see that. No, you don't want that. 281 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: You want children to grow ego structures. Not know. There 282 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: used to be this whole thing about indigo children. They're 283 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: so open their indigo children know the indigo children are 284 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: only indigo color from lack of oxygen. Children should be children, 285 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: They should be learning to say, to know what's good 286 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: and what's bad, and how to get along with people, 287 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: and how to protect their bodies and how to know 288 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: what their opinions are and their tastes like that is 289 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: not none of those are intuitive practices. So it's really 290 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: important in a sense for adults, especially adults who have 291 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: been traumatized, to work on their ego structure at the 292 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 1: same time they work on expanding to be able to 293 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: experience other realities and other people. You know, there's really 294 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: a balance there, and I think there. I am the 295 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: last survivor in my family. I have have very intuitive siblings, 296 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 1: all of whom some suicide it, so you know it 297 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: it really is. You know, I am extraordinarily able to 298 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: move around in space time, and I didn't wasn't able 299 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 1: to suppress that adequately. I luckily have had forty years, 300 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: more than forty forty five years of great psychotherapy to 301 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: remind me that my place, even if I can see 302 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: a year from now, my place is now. It's important 303 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:04,719 Speaker 1: to have feeling, to have to have affect, and the 304 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 1: struggles that we go through that are kind of easy 305 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: to use intuition to leave are actually very courageous struggles 306 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: and being human, you know, sitting with anxiety and learning 307 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: not to respond to it, but actually to work through it, 308 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: often organizing. I wrote a book called Welcome to Your Crisis, 309 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: and I am the poster child for the anxiety type. 310 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: Anxiety people just need to get up, take their eye 311 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: off anxiety, and organize a sock drawer or something that 312 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: they can finish. If the anxiety is an intuition, believe me, 313 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 1: it's going to find another way to let you know 314 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: what you need to do. But anxiety demands that we 315 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: focus on it like that. That that's the tale of O. 316 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: C D. That's not and I don't mean that in 317 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: a clinical sense. You know, that's that way that we 318 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: keep ourselves in our safe dysfunctional habits, not intuition, because 319 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: intuition will say this is happening. Do this. Intuitional move 320 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: you out of the way. Intuition will have you pick 321 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 1: up a phone and call someone the second that something 322 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: awful has happened to them and they needed to hear 323 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 1: your voice the whole dialogue about it. It'll just move 324 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 1: your hand to the phone and dial the number. Just 325 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: do it. You know, so much of life is doing 326 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: and it's one of the reasons I like reading companies 327 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 1: is that when you read a company, they take the 328 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 1: data and they do something with it, whereas people tend 329 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: to wait for their true love or even wait for 330 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: their disaster. And the reality is the only reason to 331 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: predict is to say is this what I want? And 332 00:22:55,560 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: if it's not, do something about it. So it actually 333 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: is intuition because I do. I agree with you. Any 334 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: time that I have had something, it is an actionable 335 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: step that presents itself. And it's usually, like I said, 336 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: very calm. When I feel very frantic, that's typically just 337 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: the anxious like fear wanting me to try to get 338 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: back in control of something because I feel out of control. Um, 339 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: And so what is intuition? Like? Where is it coming from? 340 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: Is this some higher power communicating with us? Is it 341 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: a subconscious thing? Like? Where? How can you help people 342 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: understand what intuition is? Well, you know, there's a lot 343 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 1: of debate, and I like to speak about what I know. 344 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: So you know, I have my own theory, which I'm 345 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: happy to share, but it's one person's theory. What I 346 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,719 Speaker 1: know because I have proof of and because I've been 347 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: the subject of studies on it, is that we can 348 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: hear each other at a distance, We can predict the future, 349 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: we can view a remote location. We can even move 350 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: matter to some degree non locally from a distance. My 351 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: belief and beliefs are not facts. Um. My belief is 352 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: that really this works because we are we are one 353 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,959 Speaker 1: circuit in a sense, and we're each individual parts of 354 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: that single circuit, and so we are able to uh 355 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: and the world is that you know that time is 356 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 1: a place, not a continuum, so that we're able to 357 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: move our attention because on some level we are actually 358 00:24:55,440 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 1: part of everything. I don't I don't believe. I don't 359 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: believe in a higher power. I may be surprised one day. Um, 360 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: and I really do think it's very important. There's a 361 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 1: wonderful Devil's Dictionary quote. Um and I actually I have it. 362 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 1: It's on my Instagram. But it's about belief. And you know, 363 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: belief isn't fact. It is something that some people are 364 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 1: courageous enough to act on. I'm way too much of 365 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 1: a scientist for that, you know. I want to know 366 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: if something if I'm jumping out of a window, I 367 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: want to know that trampoline below is there, has been 368 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: stress tested, is properly placed. I don't want to believe 369 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 1: something's going to catch me. I'm just not wired that way. 370 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 1: And I think that that makes a good intuitive because 371 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: good intuitives are good scientists and people who want to 372 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: develop their intuition. One of my favorite quotes is the 373 00:25:55,600 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: good scientists suspends disbelief, doesn't throw it away, suspends disbelief 374 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: and runs the experiment anyway. And again, one way to 375 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: run the experiment is, how do you what's your goal? 376 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: And I'm not asking you to share yours, but what 377 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: is your call? In life? Intuition, you're getting data all 378 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: the time, but the mind is a messy place, and 379 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: life is messy and complex, so you don't know how 380 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: to integrate it or apply it. One of the best 381 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: intuitive practices is to wake up and say, what's today's 382 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: question or what's goal? And and then simply notice what 383 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: you notice. You know, people, I recommend people my age 384 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: carry a little notebook and just jot it down, because again, 385 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: memory is very inaccurate. Uh, people your age should press 386 00:26:54,920 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: record on your iPhone. Waste note but it's really helpful 387 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: because then what happens is maybe not that day, but 388 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 1: a week later, when things have had time to unfold 389 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 1: and you listen to it, what you realize is that 390 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: you knew a lot more than you knew you knew, 391 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: and that just the awareness of it helped you behave 392 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 1: in a more productive way. And and I think you know, 393 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: I really I love training people to be more intuitive, 394 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: and I love reading people. I'm a compulsive reader. My 395 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: husband always says, I leave you at a cocktail party 396 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: and you're like talking about when they were seven and 397 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: telling them a lot. He said, can't you just have 398 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: a polite conversation? Um, And the answer is no, because 399 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 1: my brain doesn't work that way. I'm definitely not the 400 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 1: one you want next to you at a dinner party 401 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 1: because I will bring up the one thing you're repressing 402 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 1: and haven it. Actually I would want you next to me. 403 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, tell me everything. We should totally get together. Then, yeah, 404 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: it acolutely grade does not make you popular, I gotta 405 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: tell you. But it's very intrusive. You know. I teach 406 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: a training called boot camp, and with my students, you 407 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: know that we all have each other's numbers because they're 408 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: learning to get data for each other. And I will 409 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and say, don't do it. I 410 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 1: know what you're about to do. Don't don't do it. 411 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: Or are you thinking of breaking your dab? Don't leave 412 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: your husband? You it's not you know, here's what I'm seeing. 413 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: Does that Does that resonate with you? You know? And 414 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: and um, and then they begin to you know, after 415 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: the second boot camp they begin to do that to me. 416 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: So I have a lot of trouble fooling myself about 417 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: my motives because there's always some sky boot camper who's saying, 418 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: you think you're doing this to be nice, but you're 419 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,959 Speaker 1: really doing this for this, And I would really think 420 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: if you want, I mean, and I'm thinking, okay, life 421 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: is a mirror that can really suck something that so 422 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: if you okay. So when you talk about reading a person, 423 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: what does that look like like? Will you have a 424 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: session with someone like? Are you getting download the second people? 425 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: I don't. I basically, I mean, I'm a compulsive reader, 426 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: but formally I only read companies. I've been on retainer 427 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: at the same companies for thirty years. I read all 428 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 1: of my students because i want to show them how 429 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: to do it, and also because I'm just an intrusive 430 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: human being and I want to fix their lives and 431 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: fix them and um. But when you know, people really 432 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: are a series of questions, goals, concerns, and experiences, and 433 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: there are people are a collection of information and when 434 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: any one meets you, whether they know it or not, 435 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: they're experiencing a lot of that information, and they their 436 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: attention will go to either what's strongest for you, which 437 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 1: is often, by the way, what you're oppressing, So authenticity 438 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: is a really good practice. It'll go to what's interesting them, like, oh, 439 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: you're into s and m two. Oh wait, you didn't 440 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: tell me that you know, so so it's you know, 441 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: we we are we are circuitry in a sense, and 442 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: when you meet someone, you know what we are trained 443 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: to do. And this is good training is we're trained 444 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: to repress a lot of what we know about people. 445 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: And we also don't have the bandwidth. You know, you 446 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: walk into a room with ten people, you don't have 447 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: the bandwidth to pick up on everything. So you you 448 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: pick up on what interests you. And one of the 449 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: things just speaking to the anxiety question is often what 450 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: anxious people do in situations, social situations is they pick 451 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: up on the threats because that's how they're wired, and 452 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: so they don't enjoy them. They experiencing the social anxiety 453 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: UM and one of the one of the ways to UM. 454 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: And my husband taught me this. He taught me instead 455 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: of just kind of being wide open and picking things 456 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: up about people m or being a sieve, which I 457 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: often do, just being loose enough that things go right 458 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: through me and I don't have to notice them or 459 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: process them. He taught me to say, Okay, what's my 460 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: end goal here at a cocktail party? My end goal 461 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: is to have an interesting conversation with someone and make 462 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: a connection, make it a heart connection, UM or you know, 463 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: my end goal maybe to um get somebody to invite 464 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: me to their country house, or my end goal? You 465 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: know what is my you know what do you want 466 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: to get out of this? Because often intuitive people, like 467 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: anxious people, just get pulled every which way with no direction. 468 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: And I wrote my fourth book it's called The Circle, 469 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: and it really was my answer to how do I 470 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: use this in a productive way and not in a 471 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: way that just gives me adjective? Because people think they 472 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: want more information. I mean, you're smart enough to say 473 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to know. There are things I don't 474 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: want to know. I want to be able to experience 475 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: this moment now, you know. But I forgot the question. 476 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Well now I did too. I do think 477 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: I was just really taken by that point about asking 478 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: yourself your motives though, because I'm sensing this connection between 479 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: our intuition and everything we're rere pressing constantly, right, and 480 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: so like, if we know, even going to a party 481 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: like you that what what is our goal? That's just 482 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: another way to communicate with ourselves and really kind of 483 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: get a sense of what's driving us, which a lot 484 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: of times is where I get confused with the anxiety 485 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: and the intuition piece, because if I don't really know 486 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 1: what my goal is or what's driving me, that gets 487 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: really muddy for me. Does that make sense? Absolutely? So 488 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: here's here is a way to work with that and 489 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: asking yourself what your goal is. Notice what parts of 490 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: what you're doing make you happy or comfortable, because a 491 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: good experience is very nourishing, just like good food. Yeah, 492 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: and if you find what makes you happy and what 493 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 1: nourishes you, it will tend to reveal your goals. You know, 494 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: people always say, well, I don't know what I should 495 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: do with my life. I'm like, well, what do you enjoy? 496 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I actually really the thing I enjoy the 497 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: most is being inside of people, and I learned for 498 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: their from their lives. So my husband goes to a 499 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: cocktail party because he loves information and he's very social. 500 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,760 Speaker 1: I go because it's an opportunity to sit with people 501 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: and really experience them, which for me, you know, the 502 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: best ice cream cone in the world. So you know, 503 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: even if what I'm experiencing is pain, because when it's 504 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 1: not your pain, it may be something that that empowers 505 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: you because you can help them do something about it, 506 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:43,879 Speaker 1: or maybe it teaches you because you haven't experienced it, 507 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: or you know it's but but it's very important to 508 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 1: have some some mastery of your senses. And we get intuition. 509 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 1: People always say, how do you get intuition. We get 510 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: tuition the same way we get all information, taste, smell, sight, hearing, feeling, 511 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: and that sixth sense of thinking, which is a gestalt 512 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: of all of it. And and so when you, for example, 513 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: view a remote location which is a misnomer, and how 514 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: to rule the world from your couch, there are all 515 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: these fun exercises that actually give you verification. And verification 516 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: is so important because otherwise you just need better meds. 517 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: Otherwise you're just a mad, but go in. You view 518 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: a situation by seeing it, smelling it, tasting it, feeling it, 519 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: being in it, And then your sixth cents knows, oh, 520 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: I see where I am. I'm in a glove compartment. 521 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,399 Speaker 1: And let's say you're using your remote viewing to find 522 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: someone's ring. You know, oh, I see where I am. 523 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: I'm in a glove compartment. Let me step outside and 524 00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: see which of their cars it is? We it's weally 525 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: um healthy when you become more aware of how mobile 526 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,919 Speaker 1: your attention is. It's also healthy because the best thing 527 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:16,280 Speaker 1: about becoming trained as an intuitive is shutting it down. 528 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 1: Not hearing everybody's judgments about you. Why do you care? 529 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 1: Not feeling everybody's feeling People say I'm an EmPATH. I 530 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: say great. If you're an EmPATH and you feel everyone's feelings, 531 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 1: you need either better meds, better therapy, or both. I mean, 532 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 1: that's not that's pathology. That's not healthy, you know. Truly 533 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: being empathetic is simply being able to be aware of 534 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: someone else's point of view and understand it, not experiencing it, 535 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: which is how we tend to use that in our language. 536 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 1: That is a need for psychic self defense. That is 537 00:36:54,080 --> 00:37:00,120 Speaker 1: an intuitive you know, uh, leaking in a Yeah, and 538 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: I relate to that because I can pick up other 539 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: people's stuff, and it is it's very codependent and dysfunctional 540 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: for me, Like I need to have that boundary to 541 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,919 Speaker 1: where I'm not feeling it because it's crippling. If you're 542 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: picking up everyone's emotions all the time, it is exhausting 543 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: and I can't function in my own life. I've struggled 544 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: with that in relationships honestly because it takes me down. Yeah, 545 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 1: really not having that boundary or even like experiencing someone 546 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: else's joy. I want to experience joy the things that 547 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: give me joy and and it is you know, I 548 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: think that when you have and a highly unbounded brain 549 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 1: and intuitive brain, one of the things one of the 550 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: healthiest practices is mindfulness. And in practical intuition, I call 551 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: it the body check. What am I tasting, feeling, seeing, smelling, hearing? 552 00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: Where am I in space time? How do I feel? 553 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: Am my hungry and my thirsty and my cold and 554 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:08,280 Speaker 1: my warm? You know that just really being as fully 555 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 1: as you can be inside yourself, and it is it 556 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 1: is a real challenge. It's not it's not um healthy 557 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:23,879 Speaker 1: to be unbounded because it really makes us less effective, 558 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: and human beings are very economical creatures, and subconsciously without intending, 559 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: often in close relationships, we get other people to express 560 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: our anger, for example, or to take up our banner 561 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: when it's really ours, you know, our battle too. I 562 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: mean it's it's it is very important. And my whole 563 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 1: next book that right now is out for a publisher 564 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: is about the human ego. Is about this very precious 565 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: machinery that we grow and are constantly revising that takes 566 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 1: this spiritual energy, this amorphous, unified energy, and creates from it, 567 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: creates our bodies, our lives, our opinions, you know. And 568 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: I think that anything that that takes us away from 569 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: the obligation to be okay, to parent ourselves well is 570 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 1: not healthy for us. You know, Martyrs are not healthy people, 571 00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 1: right well. I love that you even mentioned it around 572 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 1: the topic of joy, because if you don't have boundaries 573 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 1: and you're just picking up on everyone else's joy, even 574 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,399 Speaker 1: although it's like a good thing, and you want your 575 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: friends and your relationship to other people you're in relationship 576 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 1: with to be happy, I know, for me, I have 577 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 1: lost I'm coming out of a season of just like 578 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 1: complete self abandonment and not knowing myself because I was 579 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 1: getting my joy from other people's joy or getting my 580 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: power from other people's power, and it's it crashes eventually 581 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: because it's not authentic to me. And so right now 582 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: I'm in this place of like navigating weight. Is that 583 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: actually true for me? Or what I like or what 584 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 1: I feel does that actually make me happy or sad 585 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: or any of that stuff? And a lot of that 586 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: probably can't die into the ego conversation, I would imagine 587 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: as well. But just having those boundaries in general so 588 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,439 Speaker 1: that you can tap into your own intuition, I would 589 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: imagine is a lifelong journey, and so you can tap 590 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: into your own life experience, right just like I'm sure 591 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: everyone has that friend who lives in fantasy and the fans, 592 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: but that actually you can see their life unraveling as 593 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: they're living in that fantasy. And people, more than fear, 594 00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,080 Speaker 1: people confuse fantasy with intuition. You know, I love it 595 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: when people say, oh, I've seen five posters of this 596 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 1: rock star. I mean, I get emails like this, that's 597 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: a sign that I'm spoke to be with her. And 598 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 1: I said, the fact that she's married, has two kids, 599 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 1: lives in a different state, and doesn't know you exist. 600 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: Isn't a sign, like how do you choose what? Everything 601 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: is a sign world, and we don't live by signs. 602 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 1: We are creating our lives. And I think that that 603 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 1: is the most dangerous downside of intuition, which is, you know, 604 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:45,479 Speaker 1: something can be good and feel bad, like exercise, frankly goold, 605 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 1: but it feels bad. And I think that we and 606 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:55,359 Speaker 1: and something like rage, which we've labeled awful. I mean, 607 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 1: the side of rage is passion. Those are the people 608 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 1: who rebuild the city's after the disasters. It just has 609 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: properly channeled. And we are creators of our life. And yes, 610 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: you know, some people have more of this to create with. 611 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 1: Some people have more of that you you know. I 612 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 1: always tell my students positive thinking is a sure way 613 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 1: that if that bullets aimed at you, it's going to 614 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 1: hit you. And negative thinking is also a sure way 615 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:28,879 Speaker 1: you're going to walk right into it because all you're 616 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 1: seeing is that bullet empowered realistic thinking, which is gee, 617 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:39,759 Speaker 1: bullets coming at me, not good will hit me. I 618 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 1: can move. I may not want to move, but I 619 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: can move. And if I don't move, I'm making a choice. Yes, 620 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,359 Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing I've heard that is really 621 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,280 Speaker 1: helpful to me is just intuition being tied to the action, 622 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 1: like it just being obvious that there's an action staffment 623 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 1: when it's coming from an intuitive place. So how do 624 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,399 Speaker 1: we use this? Let's talk about intuition in business because 625 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 1: I know you mentioned that most of the work you 626 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:13,760 Speaker 1: do is going into different businesses and I'm imagined tuiting 627 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 1: different things that how does that work? What are you 628 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 1: doing with these businesses? Here's the thing. Intuitions an idiots 629 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:26,479 Speaker 1: gift asking a question. It gives you data. So when 630 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,399 Speaker 1: I work with a company, a lot of I do 631 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 1: anything that that they're natural questioning would want to know. 632 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:40,839 Speaker 1: For example, will this product be successful? Oh? It won't be. 633 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: Then the next natural question is what what will get 634 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 1: in the way of its success? Perhaps this movie is 635 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,880 Speaker 1: coming out at the wrong time. It shouldn't be a 636 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 1: Halloween movie, it should be a Spring movie. You know, 637 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: it's so. So what I do is the questions that 638 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:04,239 Speaker 1: they have about their own company. I use intuition to 639 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 1: experience it. And one of the most difficult things, you know, 640 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 1: your most difficult reading is going to be your best friend, 641 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 1: because you know your best friend every day online. I 642 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 1: have a group of people who don't know each other 643 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 1: who do readings for each other because in the absence 644 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 1: of intuition, your your I mean in the absence of information, 645 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 1: your intuition, that's all you have. So a company will 646 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 1: ask me any question that they would want to know 647 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 1: about if we hire this person as a CEO, what 648 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,759 Speaker 1: are their upsides and downsides? And often, you know, one 649 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 1: of the things I teach UH students do because I 650 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 1: train students for business, I trained intuitives for business um 651 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 1: is is to really give the person the information without 652 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 1: saying do this or do that. People confuse advice with them. 653 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 1: For me, usually the companies I'm working for know what 654 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 1: they're doing a hell of a lot better than I do. 655 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 1: I'm just giving them data they might not have access to. 656 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,840 Speaker 1: So for example, I'll be able to say, I have 657 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:16,719 Speaker 1: a feeling that this person left another job eighteen months ago, 658 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,759 Speaker 1: and I would look into why there is something that 659 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:26,120 Speaker 1: might get in the way of So giving things, you know, 660 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 1: learning to give things that people can verify in the 661 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,320 Speaker 1: moment when you're making a prediction is also really helpful, 662 00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 1: and sometimes they're very silly things and the only reason 663 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,319 Speaker 1: is to say, Okay, I've hit my target or I've 664 00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 1: missed my target. A lot of a lot of reading 665 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 1: for business is telling the future, seeing what's wrong with 666 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 1: a dynamic head hunting um, finding finance for a product 667 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 1: or a project. Um And and you know, we're all 668 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,359 Speaker 1: a business. I mean I think of even when I'm 669 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 1: doing a reading for one of my students, I see 670 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:14,280 Speaker 1: them as a business. They they they are a product, 671 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 1: and how do I make this product more viable? The 672 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:20,919 Speaker 1: difference with a person is how do I make it 673 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:26,760 Speaker 1: more pleasurable for them too, since they have feelings? Um 674 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,359 Speaker 1: And I've worked for the same companies UH for thirty years, 675 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:35,920 Speaker 1: which is great because I always you know, I know 676 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 1: that a lot of the time things can be imaginations. 677 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: So having knowing you're wrong, having someone say wow, that 678 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:49,319 Speaker 1: was really off, is as helpful as knowing you're right. 679 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 1: And people are so to be wrong. You know. One 680 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,440 Speaker 1: of the most difficult things in training intuitives is training 681 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,960 Speaker 1: them to allow themselves to make mistake because intuition is 682 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,400 Speaker 1: simply reporting your reporting information. It doesn't come in and 683 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 1: say I'm right I'm intuitive. There's a process, and the 684 00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:13,799 Speaker 1: process is find your target, follow your attention. You're not 685 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 1: looking for anything, follow your attention and report. And often 686 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 1: when you're doing a reading for someone else, and you 687 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 1: can all try this. You can say to someone, write 688 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:28,080 Speaker 1: down a question and then tell him everywhere your intuition goes, 689 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: you know, some of it can be memory, some of 690 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 1: it is something you notice in the room. Some of 691 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 1: it is that ringing that was interfering a moment ago. 692 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,640 Speaker 1: You know. And and what you learn to do as 693 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 1: it becomes a practice is it really becomes a coherent 694 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:51,440 Speaker 1: stream of consciousness and the person you're reading understands perfectly 695 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,640 Speaker 1: and you have no idea what you're saying. I mean, 696 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 1: you're literally just following your attention and reporting. And that's 697 00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 1: when you know you've done a good reading, when you 698 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 1: have the to do it and not have the security 699 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 1: of someone nodding, oh, that's right. Because, by the way, 700 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 1: when I used to read people, they'd always agree with 701 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,480 Speaker 1: what they agreed with, and often what they agreed with 702 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 1: was wrong. You know, it's all that you say, you know, 703 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 1: uh um, wow, I'm observing X, Y and Z, and 704 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 1: they say, oh, no, that's the way off that person. 705 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:29,719 Speaker 1: You know, that person's just fine with me. Meanwhile they 706 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 1: find out three months later they're having an affair. You know. 707 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:38,720 Speaker 1: You know, people, we are both held together and limited 708 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 1: by our own patterns. And the patterns are also beliefs. 709 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 1: And often an intuitive will tell you something. And I 710 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,920 Speaker 1: always say to people, when you get intuitive information, pretend 711 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:56,359 Speaker 1: it's all correct, try it on, and then throw out 712 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,720 Speaker 1: what doesn't work for you. But keep the notes because 713 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 1: often with the passage of time, you know it, it 714 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 1: reveals itself. And and people love. People love to scare 715 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 1: themselves and to scare other people. And you know, if 716 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,800 Speaker 1: you don't like a piece of information, you say, Okay, 717 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 1: can I do something about this that is actually so 718 00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,800 Speaker 1: helpful and exactly like what you just said, keep the notes. 719 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:30,359 Speaker 1: Always record anytime I've been read, I recorded, because I'll 720 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:31,759 Speaker 1: go back later and listen to it and I'm like, 721 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, that did happen. Or it's just stuff 722 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 1: that's not on your radar that it seems completely outlandished 723 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,799 Speaker 1: in the moment, and then it happens later and you're like, 724 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,800 Speaker 1: oh my god, there it is. So it's just really interesting. 725 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 1: You don't want the intuitive is wrong to take a 726 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 1: simple action to clean up something that maybe might be 727 00:49:54,160 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 1: there actually active, right, totally. Well, we're gonna talk more 728 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,360 Speaker 1: with Laura on Friday. You'll be here with me and 729 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 1: Chip talking about love and how to use intuition and 730 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,400 Speaker 1: our love relationships. Chip and I are both single, so 731 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,360 Speaker 1: we need some help. We need some intuitive guidance here. 732 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,680 Speaker 1: But um, where can people find you if they themselves 733 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,439 Speaker 1: maybe want to do some intuitive learning or really hone 734 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 1: those skills. Well, I've written six books on intuition, starting 735 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:32,240 Speaker 1: with Practical Intuition Shops. I'm on Instagram almost every morning 736 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 1: Eastern daylight time, so Eastern standard time when the time's 737 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 1: change at Laura Day into it and you can just 738 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:45,239 Speaker 1: google Laura Day Intuitive or Laura Day Psychic and I 739 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 1: will come up, along with plenty of malicious gossip, which 740 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:52,640 Speaker 1: is fun to read. So I have a I have 741 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,400 Speaker 1: a website. You know, I really, I really love teaching, 742 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,600 Speaker 1: and so every morning that's what I do. I get 743 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,520 Speaker 1: on law line and I have people that I've trained 744 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,680 Speaker 1: and newcomers, and they read each other and we work 745 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:10,600 Speaker 1: through the quirks and it's a wonderful way to start 746 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,400 Speaker 1: the day and then we really work on mindfulness so 747 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,440 Speaker 1: we're not all over the place and someone else's body 748 00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,720 Speaker 1: when we get dressed and go out to work. Yeah, 749 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:22,920 Speaker 1: that is really good inside. All right, well you guys, 750 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,720 Speaker 1: I'll put all this info in the description of this podcast. Laura, 751 00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,440 Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here and we will 752 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 1: talk to you on Friday. Thanks for listening to The 753 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,520 Speaker 1: Velvet's Edge podcast with Kelly Henderson, where we believe everyone 754 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,239 Speaker 1: has a little velvet and a little edge. Subscribe for 755 00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 1: more conversations on life, style, beauty and relationships. Search Velvet's 756 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 1: Edge wherever you get your podcasts.