WEBVTT - 1/3/26: BREAKING: Trump Says US Will Run Venezuela, Boots On The Ground

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<v Speaker 1>I just finished listening to President Trump's press conference down

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<v Speaker 1>at mar A Lago describing the bombing and the kidnapping

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<v Speaker 1>of President of the Venezuela Nicholas Maduro, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>so much more insane than I even could have imagined

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<v Speaker 1>that we had to do another breaking news segment to

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<v Speaker 1>break down what was said and what was announced in

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<v Speaker 1>this press conference. The TLDR here is that he announced we,

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<v Speaker 1>as in the United States of America, are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be running Venezuela at least for a time. He did

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<v Speaker 1>not rule out that that time period could be years,

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<v Speaker 1>did not rule out that could involve direct boots on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground. Additionally, threatened other countries to include Cuba and Colombia,

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<v Speaker 1>just absolute insanity. Talked about the way that our oil

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<v Speaker 1>companies are going to exploit the resources in Venezuela. Talked

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<v Speaker 1>about how we are going to rebuild Venezuelan infrastructure. To

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead and bring you a series of these clips.

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<v Speaker 1>Our friend from drop Site maybe joining us as well

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<v Speaker 1>at some point if he's able, but let me go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and pull up these first couple where he is

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<v Speaker 1>talking about how we are going to run Venezuela. Take

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<v Speaker 1>a listen we're.

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<v Speaker 2>There now, but we're going to stay until such time

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<v Speaker 2>as the proper transition can take place. So we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to stay until such time as we're going to run it, essentially,

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<v Speaker 2>until such time as a proper transition can take place.

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<v Speaker 1>And in case you didn't think that, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>case you thought, oh, maybe he's just speaking off the cuff,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't really mean it. No, Kiri is repeating the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing even more clearly, that we are going to

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<v Speaker 1>run the country until some sort of power transition occurs.

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<v Speaker 1>Here you go, we're going.

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<v Speaker 2>To run the country until such time as we can

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<v Speaker 2>do a safe, proper and judicious transitions. We don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to be involved with having somebody else get in and

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<v Speaker 2>we have the same situation that we had for the

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<v Speaker 2>last long period of years. So we are going to

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<v Speaker 2>run the country until such time as we can do

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<v Speaker 2>a safe, proper and judicious transition.

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<v Speaker 1>Now what does this actually mean? No one really knows.

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<v Speaker 1>He was asked a series of questions about Okay, who

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<v Speaker 1>what are we talking about? Who was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>Are there going to be boots on the ground, what

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<v Speaker 1>is this going to look like? Not a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>answers were forthcoming, However, he did seem to indicate basically,

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<v Speaker 1>Marco Rubio and Pete hag Seth and the US military

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<v Speaker 1>are effectively going to be in charge of running Venezuela

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<v Speaker 1>for the immediate future. Also, no India. I mean it's possible,

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<v Speaker 1>we still have assets on the ground there. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that any of that is really clear. But here's

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<v Speaker 1>what he had to say in response to the question

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<v Speaker 1>of like, Okay, what do you mean we are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be running Venezuela.

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<v Speaker 3>Country are designated.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all being done right now. We're designating people, We're

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<v Speaker 2>talking to people. We're designating various people, and we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to let you know who those people are that would

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<v Speaker 2>run Venezuela. Well, it's largely going to be for a

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<v Speaker 2>period of time. The people that are standing right behind me,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to be running it.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to be bringing it back.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a it's a dead you know, I talk about

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<v Speaker 2>a dead country. A year and a half ago, we

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<v Speaker 2>were a dead country.

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<v Speaker 1>So people standing behind him being Marco Rubio and Pete

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<v Speaker 1>hag Seth and military leader General Kine was that raising.

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<v Speaker 1>Kine was there as well, So that seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>who he is indicating would quote unquote run the country.

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<v Speaker 1>There was also a question that was asked about, well,

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<v Speaker 1>right now, Maduro's vice president has been sworn in as president.

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<v Speaker 1>She is in charge, like you kidnapped Maduro, but his

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<v Speaker 1>vice president and the rest of his administration is still

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<v Speaker 1>there and still in charge of the country. So what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on with that? And he seemed to indicate that

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<v Speaker 1>Marco Rubio had spoken with her and that she was

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<v Speaker 1>open to working with the US and serving effectively as

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<v Speaker 1>our puppet or easing the transition or something of that nature.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me go ahead, and let me go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>pull this one up for you, because this is a

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<v Speaker 1>significant piece. Let's see, uh here, here's the one.

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<v Speaker 4>Weren't going to back Machado to come back and get

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<v Speaker 4>the opposition later in your Box and Friends interview and

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<v Speaker 4>then you also mentioned.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, at another point, he was asked about Machado,

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<v Speaker 1>who was just giving them no belt piece prize unbelievably,

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<v Speaker 1>and who was seen as a potential puppet leader. And

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<v Speaker 1>he poured a lot of cold water on the idea

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<v Speaker 1>as saying she didn't have support of the people. So

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<v Speaker 1>now he's going to be asked about the vice president

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<v Speaker 1>who's currently in charge.

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<v Speaker 3>Vice president of Venezuela.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you gonna work with vice president of Venezuela or

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<v Speaker 4>how do you course.

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<v Speaker 3>See the relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>She was just sworn in, but she was, as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>picked by Maduro, So Marco's working in that directly. He

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<v Speaker 2>just had a conversation with her, and she's essentially willing

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<v Speaker 2>to do what we think is necessary to make Venezuela

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<v Speaker 2>great again, very simple.

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<v Speaker 1>So indicating that she's willing to collaborate with the Trump regime,

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<v Speaker 1>with Marco Rubio and Hegseth and whoever else we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to install there as transitioner transitional rulers of this country.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what to say, guys. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is actually even more insane than Iraq. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you thought it was some kind of a weird leftist

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<v Speaker 1>conspiracy theory, that what we're really after is the oil.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump talked about that quite explicitly as well, which is

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<v Speaker 1>not a new thing. I mean, he and other administration

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<v Speaker 1>officials and other Trump allies have been talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>oil resources as a major motivator for this illegal offensive war,

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<v Speaker 1>and he spoke to that as well. He talked about

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<v Speaker 1>how our oil companies are going to go in and

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to spend billions of dollars, and they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to make all kinds of money here. So let's go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and take a listen to what he said about

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<v Speaker 1>the oil companies and how they will profit from this action.

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<v Speaker 2>As everyone knows, the oil business in Venezuela has been

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<v Speaker 2>a bust, a total bust for a long period of time.

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<v Speaker 2>They were pumping almost nothing by comparison to what they

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<v Speaker 2>could have been pumping and what could have taken place.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to have our very large United States oil companies,

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest anywhere in the world, go in, spend billions

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<v Speaker 2>of dollars, fix the badly broken infrastructure, the oil infrastructure,

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<v Speaker 2>and start making money for the country.

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<v Speaker 1>And we are He was asked at one point also

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<v Speaker 1>about how China and Russia would feel about this, given

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<v Speaker 1>that they have interests in Venezuela, and he said, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll sell them oil. I think it'll be fine, no problem.

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<v Speaker 1>He was also asked about what's going on with Russia

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<v Speaker 1>and Ukraine and indicated that he was frustrated with Putin.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's where we are. Trump has said, we are

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<v Speaker 1>running Venezuela. So this was a direct regime change operation,

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<v Speaker 1>that we may well have boots on the ground, that

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<v Speaker 1>this could last for years, That we are going to

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<v Speaker 1>rebuild Venezuela's infrastructure and quote unquote make Venezuela great again.

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<v Speaker 1>That we may take similar actions in other countries in

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<v Speaker 1>the region, specifically Cuba and Columbia. He spoke about, which

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<v Speaker 1>no one should be surprised about, since not only is

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<v Speaker 1>this about seizing the resources and exploding the resources of Venezuela,

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<v Speaker 1>this is also a frankly multi decade project to destroy

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<v Speaker 1>any sort of left wing government in the region, and

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<v Speaker 1>Venezuela being a key part of that fantasy, which is

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<v Speaker 1>now becoming reality with Marco Rubio there as Secretary of State.

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<v Speaker 1>MI go ahead, Jose Luis Garnado Seja has joined now

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<v Speaker 1>from drop site. Let me go ahead and let him

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<v Speaker 1>into the room and we can get his reaction as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Jose louis great to have you again. Welcome, Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>very much. Yeah, so I played some of the clips

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<v Speaker 1>of Trump saying We're going to run Venezuela, seeming to

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<v Speaker 1>indicate specifically like Marco Rubio and Pete Hegseth apparently saying

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<v Speaker 1>we may have boots on the ground, saying that this

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<v Speaker 1>could last years, saying also that Rubio had reached out

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<v Speaker 1>to the vice president, Doro's vice president, who has now

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<v Speaker 1>been sworn in as president of the country, and that

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<v Speaker 1>she seemed open to some sort of collaboration. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what is your reaction to all of this?

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<v Speaker 4>The first one is quite a surprise there. I had

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<v Speaker 4>speculated earlier that they would use this as an opportunity

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<v Speaker 4>to kind of move away from this engagement with Venezuela,

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<v Speaker 4>to finally put an end to this most recent round

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<v Speaker 4>of escalations. But those words from Trump and this press conference,

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<v Speaker 4>I think are very very clear. They intend to occupy

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<v Speaker 4>the country of Venezuela. That's obviously going to require a

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<v Speaker 4>huge mobilization of troops. I think Trump is being deliberately

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<v Speaker 4>vague or even misleading, and his response is suggesting that

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<v Speaker 4>it wouldn't take a lot, that it's just about protecting

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<v Speaker 4>oil infrastructure. I don't think that's the case whatsoever. I

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<v Speaker 4>think they're in for a conundrum. The Venezuelan armed forces

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<v Speaker 4>have talked about Venezuela becoming a new Vietnam for the

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<v Speaker 4>United States if they chose to invade. If they try,

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<v Speaker 4>if they're going to do what Trump just said in

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<v Speaker 4>his press conference to try to administer the country as

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<v Speaker 4>an buying power, it's going to require an extraordinary amount

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<v Speaker 4>of US forces. This is going to be a very serious,

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<v Speaker 4>major US operation right here in the Western Hemisphere. I

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<v Speaker 4>imagine his comments around oil are a bit of an

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<v Speaker 4>echo of their strategy that they've used in Iraq and

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<v Speaker 4>in Syria to try to take control of the oil

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<v Speaker 4>fields directly. But these are not similar situations when we

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<v Speaker 4>think about Venezuela. Like I said earlier, Venezuela is a

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<v Speaker 4>country that has undergone a very long political process. And

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<v Speaker 4>even if there are elements of the existing state that

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<v Speaker 4>maybe break away or align themselves with the US administration occupation,

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<v Speaker 4>which I find hard to believe given that essentially you're

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<v Speaker 4>a trader to your homeland, there are still going to

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<v Speaker 4>be guerrilla struggles, sabotage. This is not going to be

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<v Speaker 4>an easy ride whatsoever. I think the United States and

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<v Speaker 4>the people of the United States need to be aware

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<v Speaker 4>of what he's actually talking about, A very serious military

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<v Speaker 4>mobilization to occupy a sizable country, far larger than what

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<v Speaker 4>we in Panama. You know, there's been some military analyst

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<v Speaker 4>speculating that at least one hundred thousand troops at least

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<v Speaker 4>to be able to try to actually invade and occupy Venezueline.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, it's going to be a huge conundrum for

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<v Speaker 4>them because there it won't be easy.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, is this just cope on my part? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it possible? This is just some sort of a weird,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, chest move threat bluster kind of a situation,

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<v Speaker 1>because I mean, and do we know are there assets

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground right now that have remained in country?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, do we have any any sense of that

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<v Speaker 1>right now?

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't appear that there are US troops on the

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<v Speaker 4>ground right now. He talked about in the past tense

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<v Speaker 4>there were boots on the ground in order to carry

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<v Speaker 4>out this kidnapping of President Nicolas Maduro. But we do

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<v Speaker 4>know that there are at least twenty thousand troops nearby,

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<v Speaker 4>either in Puerto Rico or and then all those ships

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<v Speaker 4>that are stationed off the coast. So I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>that's enough to invade the country, but that is a

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<v Speaker 4>say up sizable amount of manpower there that could easily

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<v Speaker 4>be mobilized and used as part of another Asian Trump

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<v Speaker 4>talked specifically about a second round of attacks, that they

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<v Speaker 4>were actually prepared for a second one, that they actually

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<v Speaker 4>didn't carry it out, but they were.

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<v Speaker 3>Willing to do it.

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<v Speaker 4>That they're willing to kidnap any Venezuelan leader who rises

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<v Speaker 4>to fill the power vacuum.

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<v Speaker 3>We could say that is situation.

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<v Speaker 4>Right now, given that we now know that Nicolas Maduro

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<v Speaker 4>is indeed in US custody, a board that Yuajima and

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<v Speaker 4>Trump also said that he would be sent to New

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<v Speaker 4>York to face these federal indictments. So that means that

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<v Speaker 4>obviously there has to be at least for the time being,

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<v Speaker 4>some kind of transition inside of Venezuela, given that the

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<v Speaker 4>president cannot.

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<v Speaker 3>Rule if he's detained.

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<v Speaker 4>It looks like that's going to be Delsi Rodriguez, the

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<v Speaker 4>executive vice president. But it's very very odd comments from

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<v Speaker 4>him saying that she's essentially going to play along, which

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<v Speaker 4>is very surprising with people who are familiar with on

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<v Speaker 4>his own politics. Desid Rodriguez is a very powerful figure

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<v Speaker 4>inside of Venezuela, a close ally of confidant of Maduro.

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<v Speaker 4>For there's a reason why she was named directly by him.

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<v Speaker 4>The vice president is not elected in Venezuela to be

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<v Speaker 4>the executive vice president, that she would allow herself to this,

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<v Speaker 4>to lend herself to this, I don't find very credible

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<v Speaker 4>that aspect.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh absolutely yeah. And not to mention, I mean what.

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<v Speaker 1>She may have said on the flone to Marco Rubio

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<v Speaker 1>exact moment versus what the actual.

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<v Speaker 4>Void another strike from her location, because it's clear that

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<v Speaker 4>they do have some intelligence terms of where people are moving.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Trump even mentioned that they had images of

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<v Speaker 4>Doodle making it to the door of a safer room

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<v Speaker 4>but unable to actually be able to seal himself in.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, this is this is pretty serious in terms

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<v Speaker 4>of what we're talking about. What the amount of forces,

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<v Speaker 4>the amount of resources that the US appears to have

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<v Speaker 4>used in this in this operation quite quite well could

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<v Speaker 4>have been her just trying to protect herself, to try

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<v Speaker 4>to ensure that there is a succession. I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>that she's going to play US imperialism's game. Not to

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<v Speaker 4>mention the fact that she has been on the air

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<v Speaker 4>all day talking about the need to resist this. So

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think that's the case. But even if she did,

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<v Speaker 4>she would be pushed out by the revolutionary forces.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no one died of Venezuela is.

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<v Speaker 4>Going to tolerate anybody who's going to be a traitor

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<v Speaker 4>to her homeland, and somebody else would rise to fill

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<v Speaker 4>her shoes if that is the case. So it's a

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<v Speaker 4>very unpredictable, unstable situation as of now, and really really

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<v Speaker 4>quite surprising. But I will say I think at the

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<v Speaker 4>point but I want to emphasize, is that what Trump

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<v Speaker 4>is talking about is a large scale military operation or mission.

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<v Speaker 3>In South America.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess you know, I heard that one of the

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<v Speaker 4>the reporters asked, how is this America first? I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>it's apparently that word can that phrase can be used

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<v Speaker 4>for anything, because in no way is this America first.

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<v Speaker 4>This is another US military adventure without a clear outcome

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<v Speaker 4>in terms of how they're actually going to be able

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<v Speaker 4>to get out of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me play a little bit of this where Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is talking about the Monroe doctrine and they now call

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<v Speaker 1>it the Donro doctrine. American dominance in the Western hemisphere

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<v Speaker 1>will never be questioned. Again. Let's listen to this.

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<v Speaker 2>All of these actions were in gross violation of the

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<v Speaker 2>corporate incibals of American foreign policy dating back more than

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<v Speaker 2>two centuries and not anymore, all the way back dated

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<v Speaker 2>to the Monroe doctrines. And the Monroe doctrine is a

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<v Speaker 2>big deal, but we've superseded it by a lot, by

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<v Speaker 2>a real lot. They now call it the donro Document.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it's Monroe doctrine. We sort of forgot

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<v Speaker 2>about it. It was very important, but we forgot about it.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't forget about it anymore. Under our new national

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<v Speaker 2>security strategy, American dominance in the Western Hemisphere will never

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<v Speaker 2>be questioned again, won't happen.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you make of those comments? And it's consistent

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<v Speaker 1>with some of the things that have been laid out

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<v Speaker 1>in his national security strategy previously.

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<v Speaker 4>Now listening to him talk, I'm not sure he actually

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<v Speaker 4>understands what the Monroe Doctrine was or how it could

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<v Speaker 4>be applied in twenty twenty six. You know, the Monroe

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<v Speaker 4>Doctrine was a policy of the United States that was

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<v Speaker 4>aimed at Europe of the law to dissuade them from

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<v Speaker 4>engaging in any champ of colonization or recolonization here in

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<v Speaker 4>the Western hemisphere. He seems to understand it as the

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<v Speaker 4>United States can do whatever it wants in the Western hemisphere,

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<v Speaker 4>that this is its exclusive sphere of influence. Obviously, in practice,

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<v Speaker 4>that is what the Monroe Doctrine ultimately became. But that's

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<v Speaker 4>not really what it was intended as. And certainly, even

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<v Speaker 4>if we accept the you know, the principles behind the

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<v Speaker 4>Monroe Doctrine, what the United States did is not about,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, containing the influence of foreign powers inside of

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<v Speaker 4>the Western hemisphere. This is US military adventurism. It's the

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<v Speaker 4>US imperialist policy of imposing its will on countries through might.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's interesting we heard the comments there from

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<v Speaker 4>US officials about how peace through strength. There's nothing peaceful

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<v Speaker 4>about what just happened. You know, this is a very

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<v Speaker 4>violent act. You know, there's already reports of casualties as

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<v Speaker 4>a result, and of course, you know, the kidnaping of

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<v Speaker 4>a sitting president is it's just absolutely extraordinary, extraordinarily violent act.

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<v Speaker 4>And so this is not piece whatsoever. And I hope

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<v Speaker 4>that there's pushback from US policy makers, from lawmakers, from

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<v Speaker 4>the US public around this. That's not what's happening here.

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<v Speaker 4>The US once again has reminded us because this is

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<v Speaker 4>something that the peoples of Latin America are very much

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<v Speaker 4>aware of that. They are willing to engage in these

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<v Speaker 4>kinds of illegal actions to impose its will. And like

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<v Speaker 4>I said in the other segment that we talked about,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I hope this is a wake up call

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<v Speaker 4>because we really have to.

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<v Speaker 3>Understand who we're dealing with here.

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<v Speaker 4>And there's already as I mentioned earlier, there's already him

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<v Speaker 4>talk of him talking about something.

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<v Speaker 3>Similar in Mexico. Now he was asked directly about this.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and you know this is the problem is that

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<v Speaker 4>you know, this could lead to a sort of domino

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<v Speaker 4>effect where the US says, look what we're.

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<v Speaker 3>Willing to do. You want us to do that to

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<v Speaker 3>you do exactly as we say.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me go ahead and play to bolster your point

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<v Speaker 1>portion where he's talking about Cuba and Columbia, I believe

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<v Speaker 1>in this particular response, let's listen to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead as a messagere for Cuba and Canal Well,

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<v Speaker 2>Cuba is an interesting case. Cuba is, you know, not

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<v Speaker 2>doing very well right now. That system has not been

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<v Speaker 2>a very good one for Cuba. The people there have

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<v Speaker 2>suffered for many, many years. And I think Cuba is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be something we'll end up talking about because

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<v Speaker 2>Cuba is a failing nation right now, very badly failing nation,

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<v Speaker 2>and we want to help the people. It's very similar

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<v Speaker 2>in the sense that we want to help the people

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<v Speaker 2>in Cuba, but we want to also help the people

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<v Speaker 2>that were forced out of Cuba and living in this country.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to say something about that?

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<v Speaker 1>In markup, I'm sure Marco does want to say something

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<v Speaker 1>about that, doesn't he? And another part though he did,

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<v Speaker 1>he was asked about Columbia as well. You talked about Mexico.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's just a whole other, wild level of insanity.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard for me to wrap my head around all

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<v Speaker 1>of this. And you know, I mean, I guess the

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<v Speaker 1>best case scenario is this is all like blustering threats

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<v Speaker 1>and him acting like a mad man to try to

0:18:56.040 --> 0:19:00.199
<v Speaker 1>coerce these various countries and leaders. But I mean, part

0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:04.919
<v Speaker 1>of this is incredibly deadly real, not only the regime

0:19:05.000 --> 0:19:07.480
<v Speaker 1>change in Venezuela, but now the promise that we are

0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:10.119
<v Speaker 1>directly going to govern in even if it takes boots

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground, even if it takes years. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think this also just improcess upon everyone and for you know,

0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:18.600
<v Speaker 1>those who had any doubt that this is part of

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<v Speaker 1>a long time project to destroy any sort of left

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<v Speaker 1>wing governance in the region.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely. You know.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the terms that I've been using more recently

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<v Speaker 4>is the strategic retreat of the United States, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think it's actually the national security strategy as

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<v Speaker 4>a confession that they are very much willing to admit

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<v Speaker 4>that the struggle for total spectral dominance, which is what

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<v Speaker 4>they used to talk about of the end of the

0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:44.000
<v Speaker 4>Cold War, has largely been lost. That they do have

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<v Speaker 4>a pure rival in China, and I think there is

0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:49.040
<v Speaker 4>an acknowledgement that they need.

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<v Speaker 3>To kind of rebuild their forces.

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<v Speaker 4>The United States is not in a position today to

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<v Speaker 4>be able to dispute hegemony at a global level, you know,

0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:57.000
<v Speaker 4>and actually be able to kind of keep up with

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<v Speaker 4>this pure rival.

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<v Speaker 3>And so that's why we see.

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<v Speaker 4>This pivot toward traditional spheres of influence and why we're

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<v Speaker 4>seeing what's happening here in Latin America. This attempt to

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<v Speaker 4>try to secure access to cheap resources, cheap labor, to

0:20:07.800 --> 0:20:10.000
<v Speaker 4>client governments that are willing to do whatever the United

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<v Speaker 4>States is willing to do, and those that aren't are

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<v Speaker 4>going to face these kinds of threats, and that helps

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<v Speaker 4>us understand what he's talking about when they talk about

0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:19.920
<v Speaker 4>Cuba and Colombia and Mexico. And like I said, this

0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:23.439
<v Speaker 4>is pretty serious because of the precedent it sets, you know,

0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:25.880
<v Speaker 4>and that they are willing to put boots on the ground. Now,

0:20:26.040 --> 0:20:29.520
<v Speaker 4>can the US really engage in military conflicts in several

0:20:29.520 --> 0:20:32.600
<v Speaker 4>countries at once? I think that's quite difficult. So if

0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:35.879
<v Speaker 4>they really do intend to occupy Venezuela, that's going to

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<v Speaker 4>be a very long distraction and could ultimately define the

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<v Speaker 4>Donald Trump presidency.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, absolutely, no doubt about it. Yeah, I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's absolutely wild to see. And to your point about

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<v Speaker 1>hoping that some media outlets and some you know, political

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<v Speaker 1>leaders stand up, there have been some, but the Washington

0:20:56.680 --> 0:20:59.959
<v Speaker 1>Post editorial board has come out in support. I just

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<v Speaker 1>was reading Haquem Jeffrey's statement, which was incredibly weak and

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<v Speaker 1>just basically, you know, did some handwringing about the process.

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<v Speaker 1>So why didn't you go to Congress before doing this

0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:13.520
<v Speaker 1>completely insane thing, which like, okay, that's yes, we want

0:21:13.520 --> 0:21:15.640
<v Speaker 1>you to follow the process, but also let's talk about

0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:18.879
<v Speaker 1>the meat and potatoes of what was done here. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that the Democratic Party will be somewhat split,

0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:24.800
<v Speaker 1>and the leaders of the party, Keem Jeffreys and Chuck

0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:29.240
<v Speaker 1>Schumer in particular, will be somewhat supportive.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the base of the Democratic Party is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be very opposed. And we'll see. There's so much

0:21:35.320 --> 0:21:38.160
<v Speaker 1>propaganda already on all the cable news nets that it's

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<v Speaker 1>just I mean, I can barely listen to it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>so disturbing and so insane.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why we need alternative meet and that's why we

0:21:44.680 --> 0:21:46.560
<v Speaker 4>need to be able to hear from voices on the.

0:21:46.560 --> 0:21:47.960
<v Speaker 3>Ground inside of Venezuela.

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<v Speaker 4>We actually just published right now a report on drop

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<v Speaker 4>site News featuring some commentary from a young man who

0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:57.600
<v Speaker 4>an Afro Venezuelan man who immediately mobilized. He spoke of

0:21:57.640 --> 0:22:01.080
<v Speaker 4>how both his siblings and his mom we're scared and crying,

0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:02.399
<v Speaker 4>and he said, no, we need to get together and

0:22:02.440 --> 0:22:03.960
<v Speaker 4>we need to resist us, because then we know what's

0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:05.960
<v Speaker 4>happening and we have to push back against this. And

0:22:05.960 --> 0:22:07.560
<v Speaker 4>those are the kinds of attitudes that people need to

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<v Speaker 4>be aware of when Trump talks about an occupying force,

0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:13.800
<v Speaker 4>about an invasion of their so called administration of Venezuela

0:22:13.840 --> 0:22:15.719
<v Speaker 4>is that you're talking about millions of people who are

0:22:15.720 --> 0:22:17.800
<v Speaker 4>not going to stand for it. And that's really, I

0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:20.439
<v Speaker 4>think something that we need to drive home, particularly amongst

0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:22.840
<v Speaker 4>those who are listening to this program and who want

0:22:22.880 --> 0:22:25.199
<v Speaker 4>to push back against this narrative, because you're right, that's

0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:26.720
<v Speaker 4>what we're going to hear. We're going to hear about

0:22:26.880 --> 0:22:31.120
<v Speaker 4>how this is necessary. The bipartisan imperialist consensus is going

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<v Speaker 4>to suggest that, well, we didn't like the methods, but

0:22:33.640 --> 0:22:35.320
<v Speaker 4>we like the ends, and so we're going to continue

0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:38.480
<v Speaker 4>to support this or probably be billions of dollars spent

0:22:38.880 --> 0:22:41.320
<v Speaker 4>on this effort now, and those are billions of dollars

0:22:41.359 --> 0:22:43.440
<v Speaker 4>that could be going to healthcare, for example, inside of

0:22:43.440 --> 0:22:45.200
<v Speaker 4>the United States. These are all things that I think

0:22:45.240 --> 0:22:49.680
<v Speaker 4>put into really clear picture the contradictions that define us

0:22:49.760 --> 0:22:53.240
<v Speaker 4>political life here. And it's tragic that once again the

0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:55.439
<v Speaker 4>peoples of a global South country like Venezuela are going

0:22:55.480 --> 0:22:56.879
<v Speaker 4>to have to pay the price. But I hope it

0:22:56.920 --> 0:22:58.720
<v Speaker 4>serves to wake up a lot of people inside the

0:22:58.840 --> 0:22:59.399
<v Speaker 4>United States.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, where we are is as of the new year,

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<v Speaker 1>you have I don't know how many Americans who have

0:23:04.800 --> 0:23:07.719
<v Speaker 1>seen their healthcare premiums, millions of Americans who've seen their

0:23:07.720 --> 0:23:12.159
<v Speaker 1>healthcare premiums spike. You've seen the Epstein scandal continue to

0:23:12.240 --> 0:23:14.399
<v Speaker 1>spin out a control. I recorded a segment earlier this

0:23:14.400 --> 0:23:16.480
<v Speaker 1>week the Wall Street Journal reporting that mar A Laco

0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:21.560
<v Speaker 1>was a key hunting ground for Glaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein.

0:23:21.920 --> 0:23:24.600
<v Speaker 1>So you have that, you have plunging approval rating and

0:23:24.680 --> 0:23:28.320
<v Speaker 1>scandal and incompetence on all fronts. I do think the

0:23:28.320 --> 0:23:30.840
<v Speaker 1>timing of that has to do, you know, in part

0:23:31.200 --> 0:23:34.640
<v Speaker 1>with wanting to distract from some of those scandals. But yeah,

0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:36.920
<v Speaker 1>I have to think as the American people and even

0:23:36.960 --> 0:23:40.600
<v Speaker 1>some people, some people who are in the Trump coalition

0:23:41.160 --> 0:23:45.800
<v Speaker 1>listen to him talk about We're going to rebuild Venezuela's infrastructure,

0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:48.560
<v Speaker 1>that they may feel like, hey, you know, we could

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<v Speaker 1>do with some nation building and some infrastructure here at home.

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<v Speaker 1>So look, I'm not under any illusions. Partisanship runs very deep.

0:23:57.800 --> 0:24:02.360
<v Speaker 1>The Trump MAGA coalition was more actually adversarial towards his

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<v Speaker 1>strikes in Iran and potential war with Iran. There have

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<v Speaker 1>been you know, pretty widespread I think acceptance in the

0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:12.680
<v Speaker 1>right wing influencer class, at least of potential war with Venezuela.

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<v Speaker 1>I did see Marjorie Taylor Green put out a good statement,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know she's she's about to resign and she's

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<v Speaker 1>on the ounce with the MAGA coalition. So you know

0:24:20.720 --> 0:24:23.640
<v Speaker 1>that is that is where we are. And the last thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll say to your point about how it almost

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<v Speaker 1>feels you're sort of like watching the that you are

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<v Speaker 1>watching the end of an empire in real time, and

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<v Speaker 1>that this action and the National Security Doctrine all is

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<v Speaker 1>reflective of that decline in stature and stance globally. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the imagery from this press conference when he wasn't speaking,

0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Trump was there falling asleep, like announcing this insane regime

0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:55.760
<v Speaker 1>change war with dire immediate consequences, and he can't even

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<v Speaker 1>at you know, almost eighty years old. He can't even

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<v Speaker 1>stay awake for the whole thing. Talk about an image

0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:02.879
<v Speaker 1>of a declining empire. That's it right there.

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<v Speaker 4>Although you as other officials, you know, Rubio Vans, they're

0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:09.119
<v Speaker 4>much younger and they're very much on board with this

0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:10.600
<v Speaker 4>same plant, so that.

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<v Speaker 3>Part is really weird.

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<v Speaker 1>We're ready to go.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, after we finished recording the early one, we talked

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<v Speaker 4>about how I injured my hand in yesterday's earthquake here,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think it's worth mentioning this crisis that the

0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 4>United States is living in right now, especially when it

0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:23.280
<v Speaker 4>comes to issues like health care.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't have to.

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<v Speaker 4>Be that way. The United States is still the richest

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<v Speaker 4>country in the history of the world. There's plenty of

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<v Speaker 4>resources there to give a better quality of life to

0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:34.000
<v Speaker 4>the US population, and they don't get it because they

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<v Speaker 4>spend money doing this instead. Just as a quick anecdote,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, as I mentioned to you, I went to

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<v Speaker 4>my clinic, I went to the trauma hospital, I was

0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:45.359
<v Speaker 4>served in the emerge in less than four hours, and

0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:48.359
<v Speaker 4>had my injury attended. That's all of that in a

0:25:48.359 --> 0:25:51.479
<v Speaker 4>middle income country like Mexico, which has decided to invest

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<v Speaker 4>in its welfare of the population. That's what you could

0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:57.639
<v Speaker 4>have if you're able to push back against you know,

0:25:57.680 --> 0:26:00.000
<v Speaker 4>these imperialist designs of the US.

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<v Speaker 1>Really class I want people to release it with this.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, here you are in Mexico, a country with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot less wealth and resources than the US, and

0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 1>you're able after you your hand is injured, you're able

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<v Speaker 1>to go in get it treated less than four hours,

0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:20.200
<v Speaker 1>receive quality care for zero cost, zero cost, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's no wonder that Claudia Scheinbaum has one

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<v Speaker 1>of the highest aproval ratings in the entire one now

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<v Speaker 1>that she is entirely responsible for that. But you know

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<v Speaker 1>that has been the direction of leadership in Mexico is

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<v Speaker 1>to actually, you know, put the care for their people

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<v Speaker 1>first and foremost, which I think is what some people

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<v Speaker 1>thought when they were voting for America first.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's certainly also what the Bolivarin Revolution was about.

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<v Speaker 4>It was about redistributing that country's wealth to those who

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 4>had never been able to access to it. But apparently

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<v Speaker 4>that was too much for the US ruling class to tolerate,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's why we've seen action after action after action

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<v Speaker 4>culminating and what we're witnessing today.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, thank you so much for joining me again. I've

0:26:55.400 --> 0:26:57.840
<v Speaker 1>taken up much more of your day than I originally intended,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm really grateful for it, and your analysis has

0:27:00.240 --> 0:27:02.560
<v Speaker 1>been absolutely invaluable. So thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much for giving me this space to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about this