1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: I just finished listening to President Trump's press conference down 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: at mar A Lago describing the bombing and the kidnapping 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: of President of the Venezuela Nicholas Maduro, and it was 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: so much more insane than I even could have imagined 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: that we had to do another breaking news segment to 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 1: break down what was said and what was announced in 7 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: this press conference. The TLDR here is that he announced we, 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: as in the United States of America, are going to 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: be running Venezuela at least for a time. He did 10 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: not rule out that that time period could be years, 11 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: did not rule out that could involve direct boots on 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: the ground. Additionally, threatened other countries to include Cuba and Colombia, 13 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: just absolute insanity. Talked about the way that our oil 14 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: companies are going to exploit the resources in Venezuela. Talked 15 00:00:54,760 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: about how we are going to rebuild Venezuelan infrastructure. To 16 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: go ahead and bring you a series of these clips. 17 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: Our friend from drop Site maybe joining us as well 18 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: at some point if he's able, but let me go 19 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: ahead and pull up these first couple where he is 20 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: talking about how we are going to run Venezuela. Take 21 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: a listen we're. 22 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: There now, but we're going to stay until such time 23 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: as the proper transition can take place. So we're going 24 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: to stay until such time as we're going to run it, essentially, 25 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 2: until such time as a proper transition can take place. 26 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: And in case you didn't think that, you know, in 27 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: case you thought, oh, maybe he's just speaking off the cuff, 28 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: he doesn't really mean it. No, Kiri is repeating the 29 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: same thing even more clearly, that we are going to 30 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: run the country until some sort of power transition occurs. 31 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: Here you go, we're going. 32 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: To run the country until such time as we can 33 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: do a safe, proper and judicious transitions. We don't want 34 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: to be involved with having somebody else get in and 35 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: we have the same situation that we had for the 36 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: last long period of years. So we are going to 37 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: run the country until such time as we can do 38 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: a safe, proper and judicious transition. 39 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: Now what does this actually mean? No one really knows. 40 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 1: He was asked a series of questions about Okay, who 41 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: what are we talking about? Who was going to be 42 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: Are there going to be boots on the ground, what 43 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: is this going to look like? Not a lot of 44 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: answers were forthcoming, However, he did seem to indicate basically, 45 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: Marco Rubio and Pete hag Seth and the US military 46 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 1: are effectively going to be in charge of running Venezuela 47 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: for the immediate future. Also, no India. I mean it's possible, 48 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: we still have assets on the ground there. I don't 49 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: think that any of that is really clear. But here's 50 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: what he had to say in response to the question 51 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: of like, Okay, what do you mean we are going 52 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: to be running Venezuela. 53 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 3: Country are designated. 54 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 2: It's all being done right now. We're designating people, We're 55 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 2: talking to people. We're designating various people, and we're going 56 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 2: to let you know who those people are that would 57 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 2: run Venezuela. Well, it's largely going to be for a 58 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: period of time. The people that are standing right behind me, 59 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 2: we're going to be running it. 60 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 3: We're going to be bringing it back. 61 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 2: It's a it's a dead you know, I talk about 62 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: a dead country. A year and a half ago, we 63 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: were a dead country. 64 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: So people standing behind him being Marco Rubio and Pete 65 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: hag Seth and military leader General Kine was that raising. 66 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: Kine was there as well, So that seems to be 67 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: who he is indicating would quote unquote run the country. 68 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: There was also a question that was asked about, well, 69 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: right now, Maduro's vice president has been sworn in as president. 70 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: She is in charge, like you kidnapped Maduro, but his 71 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: vice president and the rest of his administration is still 72 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: there and still in charge of the country. So what's 73 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: going on with that? And he seemed to indicate that 74 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: Marco Rubio had spoken with her and that she was 75 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: open to working with the US and serving effectively as 76 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: our puppet or easing the transition or something of that nature. 77 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: Let me go ahead, and let me go ahead and 78 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: pull this one up for you, because this is a 79 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: significant piece. Let's see, uh here, here's the one. 80 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 4: Weren't going to back Machado to come back and get 81 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 4: the opposition later in your Box and Friends interview and 82 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 4: then you also mentioned. 83 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: By the way, at another point, he was asked about Machado, 84 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: who was just giving them no belt piece prize unbelievably, 85 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: and who was seen as a potential puppet leader. And 86 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: he poured a lot of cold water on the idea 87 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: as saying she didn't have support of the people. So 88 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: now he's going to be asked about the vice president 89 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: who's currently in charge. 90 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:07,799 Speaker 3: Vice president of Venezuela. 91 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 4: Are you gonna work with vice president of Venezuela or 92 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 4: how do you course. 93 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: See the relationship. 94 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: She was just sworn in, but she was, as you know, 95 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: picked by Maduro, So Marco's working in that directly. He 96 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: just had a conversation with her, and she's essentially willing 97 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 2: to do what we think is necessary to make Venezuela 98 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: great again, very simple. 99 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: So indicating that she's willing to collaborate with the Trump regime, 100 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: with Marco Rubio and Hegseth and whoever else we're going 101 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: to install there as transitioner transitional rulers of this country. 102 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say, guys. I mean, 103 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: this is actually even more insane than Iraq. And if 104 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: you thought it was some kind of a weird leftist 105 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: conspiracy theory, that what we're really after is the oil. 106 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: Trump talked about that quite explicitly as well, which is 107 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: not a new thing. I mean, he and other administration 108 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: officials and other Trump allies have been talking about the 109 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:14,559 Speaker 1: oil resources as a major motivator for this illegal offensive war, 110 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: and he spoke to that as well. He talked about 111 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: how our oil companies are going to go in and 112 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: they're going to spend billions of dollars, and they're going 113 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: to make all kinds of money here. So let's go 114 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: ahead and take a listen to what he said about 115 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: the oil companies and how they will profit from this action. 116 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: As everyone knows, the oil business in Venezuela has been 117 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 2: a bust, a total bust for a long period of time. 118 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 2: They were pumping almost nothing by comparison to what they 119 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: could have been pumping and what could have taken place. 120 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: We're going to have our very large United States oil companies, 121 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: the biggest anywhere in the world, go in, spend billions 122 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 2: of dollars, fix the badly broken infrastructure, the oil infrastructure, 123 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 2: and start making money for the country. 124 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: And we are He was asked at one point also 125 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,239 Speaker 1: about how China and Russia would feel about this, given 126 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: that they have interests in Venezuela, and he said, oh, well, 127 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: we'll sell them oil. I think it'll be fine, no problem. 128 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: He was also asked about what's going on with Russia 129 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: and Ukraine and indicated that he was frustrated with Putin. 130 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: But that's where we are. Trump has said, we are 131 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: running Venezuela. So this was a direct regime change operation, 132 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: that we may well have boots on the ground, that 133 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: this could last for years, That we are going to 134 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: rebuild Venezuela's infrastructure and quote unquote make Venezuela great again. 135 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: That we may take similar actions in other countries in 136 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: the region, specifically Cuba and Columbia. He spoke about, which 137 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: no one should be surprised about, since not only is 138 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: this about seizing the resources and exploding the resources of Venezuela, 139 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: this is also a frankly multi decade project to destroy 140 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: any sort of left wing government in the region, and 141 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: Venezuela being a key part of that fantasy, which is 142 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: now becoming reality with Marco Rubio there as Secretary of State. 143 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: MI go ahead, Jose Luis Garnado Seja has joined now 144 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: from drop site. Let me go ahead and let him 145 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: into the room and we can get his reaction as well. 146 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 1: Jose louis great to have you again. Welcome, Thank you 147 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: very much. Yeah, so I played some of the clips 148 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: of Trump saying We're going to run Venezuela, seeming to 149 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: indicate specifically like Marco Rubio and Pete Hegseth apparently saying 150 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: we may have boots on the ground, saying that this 151 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: could last years, saying also that Rubio had reached out 152 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: to the vice president, Doro's vice president, who has now 153 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: been sworn in as president of the country, and that 154 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: she seemed open to some sort of collaboration. I mean, 155 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: what is your reaction to all of this? 156 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 4: The first one is quite a surprise there. I had 157 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 4: speculated earlier that they would use this as an opportunity 158 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 4: to kind of move away from this engagement with Venezuela, 159 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 4: to finally put an end to this most recent round 160 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 4: of escalations. But those words from Trump and this press conference, 161 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 4: I think are very very clear. They intend to occupy 162 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 4: the country of Venezuela. That's obviously going to require a 163 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 4: huge mobilization of troops. I think Trump is being deliberately 164 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 4: vague or even misleading, and his response is suggesting that 165 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 4: it wouldn't take a lot, that it's just about protecting 166 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 4: oil infrastructure. I don't think that's the case whatsoever. I 167 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 4: think they're in for a conundrum. The Venezuelan armed forces 168 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 4: have talked about Venezuela becoming a new Vietnam for the 169 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 4: United States if they chose to invade. If they try, 170 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 4: if they're going to do what Trump just said in 171 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 4: his press conference to try to administer the country as 172 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 4: an buying power, it's going to require an extraordinary amount 173 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 4: of US forces. This is going to be a very serious, 174 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 4: major US operation right here in the Western Hemisphere. I 175 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 4: imagine his comments around oil are a bit of an 176 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 4: echo of their strategy that they've used in Iraq and 177 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 4: in Syria to try to take control of the oil 178 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 4: fields directly. But these are not similar situations when we 179 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 4: think about Venezuela. Like I said earlier, Venezuela is a 180 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 4: country that has undergone a very long political process. And 181 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 4: even if there are elements of the existing state that 182 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 4: maybe break away or align themselves with the US administration occupation, 183 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 4: which I find hard to believe given that essentially you're 184 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 4: a trader to your homeland, there are still going to 185 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 4: be guerrilla struggles, sabotage. This is not going to be 186 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 4: an easy ride whatsoever. I think the United States and 187 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 4: the people of the United States need to be aware 188 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 4: of what he's actually talking about, A very serious military 189 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 4: mobilization to occupy a sizable country, far larger than what 190 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 4: we in Panama. You know, there's been some military analyst 191 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 4: speculating that at least one hundred thousand troops at least 192 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 4: to be able to try to actually invade and occupy Venezueline. 193 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 4: Of course, it's going to be a huge conundrum for 194 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 4: them because there it won't be easy. 195 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: I mean, is this just cope on my part? Is 196 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: it possible? This is just some sort of a weird, 197 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: you know, chest move threat bluster kind of a situation, 198 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: because I mean, and do we know are there assets 199 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: on the ground right now that have remained in country? 200 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: You know, do we have any any sense of that 201 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: right now? 202 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 4: It doesn't appear that there are US troops on the 203 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 4: ground right now. He talked about in the past tense 204 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 4: there were boots on the ground in order to carry 205 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 4: out this kidnapping of President Nicolas Maduro. But we do 206 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 4: know that there are at least twenty thousand troops nearby, 207 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 4: either in Puerto Rico or and then all those ships 208 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 4: that are stationed off the coast. So I don't think 209 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 4: that's enough to invade the country, but that is a 210 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 4: say up sizable amount of manpower there that could easily 211 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 4: be mobilized and used as part of another Asian Trump 212 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 4: talked specifically about a second round of attacks, that they 213 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 4: were actually prepared for a second one, that they actually 214 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 4: didn't carry it out, but they were. 215 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 3: Willing to do it. 216 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 4: That they're willing to kidnap any Venezuelan leader who rises 217 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 4: to fill the power vacuum. 218 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 3: We could say that is situation. 219 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 4: Right now, given that we now know that Nicolas Maduro 220 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 4: is indeed in US custody, a board that Yuajima and 221 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 4: Trump also said that he would be sent to New 222 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 4: York to face these federal indictments. So that means that 223 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 4: obviously there has to be at least for the time being, 224 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 4: some kind of transition inside of Venezuela, given that the 225 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 4: president cannot. 226 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 3: Rule if he's detained. 227 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 4: It looks like that's going to be Delsi Rodriguez, the 228 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 4: executive vice president. But it's very very odd comments from 229 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 4: him saying that she's essentially going to play along, which 230 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 4: is very surprising with people who are familiar with on 231 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 4: his own politics. Desid Rodriguez is a very powerful figure 232 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 4: inside of Venezuela, a close ally of confidant of Maduro. 233 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 4: For there's a reason why she was named directly by him. 234 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 4: The vice president is not elected in Venezuela to be 235 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 4: the executive vice president, that she would allow herself to this, 236 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 4: to lend herself to this, I don't find very credible 237 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 4: that aspect. 238 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 3: Oh absolutely yeah. And not to mention, I mean what. 239 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: She may have said on the flone to Marco Rubio 240 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: exact moment versus what the actual. 241 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 4: Void another strike from her location, because it's clear that 242 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 4: they do have some intelligence terms of where people are moving. 243 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 4: You know, Trump even mentioned that they had images of 244 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 4: Doodle making it to the door of a safer room 245 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 4: but unable to actually be able to seal himself in. 246 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 4: I mean, this is this is pretty serious in terms 247 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 4: of what we're talking about. What the amount of forces, 248 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 4: the amount of resources that the US appears to have 249 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 4: used in this in this operation quite quite well could 250 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 4: have been her just trying to protect herself, to try 251 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 4: to ensure that there is a succession. I don't think 252 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 4: that she's going to play US imperialism's game. Not to 253 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 4: mention the fact that she has been on the air 254 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 4: all day talking about the need to resist this. So 255 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 4: I don't think that's the case. But even if she did, 256 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 4: she would be pushed out by the revolutionary forces. 257 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 3: No, no one died of Venezuela is. 258 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 4: Going to tolerate anybody who's going to be a traitor 259 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 4: to her homeland, and somebody else would rise to fill 260 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 4: her shoes if that is the case. So it's a 261 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 4: very unpredictable, unstable situation as of now, and really really 262 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 4: quite surprising. But I will say I think at the 263 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 4: point but I want to emphasize, is that what Trump 264 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 4: is talking about is a large scale military operation or mission. 265 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 3: In South America. 266 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 4: I guess you know, I heard that one of the 267 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 4: the reporters asked, how is this America first? I mean, 268 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 4: it's apparently that word can that phrase can be used 269 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 4: for anything, because in no way is this America first. 270 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 4: This is another US military adventure without a clear outcome 271 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 4: in terms of how they're actually going to be able 272 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 4: to get out of this. 273 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: Let me play a little bit of this where Trump 274 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: is talking about the Monroe doctrine and they now call 275 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: it the Donro doctrine. American dominance in the Western hemisphere 276 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: will never be questioned. Again. Let's listen to this. 277 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 2: All of these actions were in gross violation of the 278 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: corporate incibals of American foreign policy dating back more than 279 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 2: two centuries and not anymore, all the way back dated 280 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 2: to the Monroe doctrines. And the Monroe doctrine is a 281 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 2: big deal, but we've superseded it by a lot, by 282 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 2: a real lot. They now call it the donro Document. 283 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: I don't know, it's Monroe doctrine. We sort of forgot 284 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 2: about it. It was very important, but we forgot about it. 285 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 2: We don't forget about it anymore. Under our new national 286 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: security strategy, American dominance in the Western Hemisphere will never 287 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 2: be questioned again, won't happen. 288 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: What do you make of those comments? And it's consistent 289 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: with some of the things that have been laid out 290 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: in his national security strategy previously. 291 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 4: Now listening to him talk, I'm not sure he actually 292 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 4: understands what the Monroe Doctrine was or how it could 293 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 4: be applied in twenty twenty six. You know, the Monroe 294 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 4: Doctrine was a policy of the United States that was 295 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 4: aimed at Europe of the law to dissuade them from 296 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 4: engaging in any champ of colonization or recolonization here in 297 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 4: the Western hemisphere. He seems to understand it as the 298 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 4: United States can do whatever it wants in the Western hemisphere, 299 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 4: that this is its exclusive sphere of influence. Obviously, in practice, 300 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 4: that is what the Monroe Doctrine ultimately became. But that's 301 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 4: not really what it was intended as. And certainly, even 302 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 4: if we accept the you know, the principles behind the 303 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 4: Monroe Doctrine, what the United States did is not about, 304 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 4: you know, containing the influence of foreign powers inside of 305 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 4: the Western hemisphere. This is US military adventurism. It's the 306 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 4: US imperialist policy of imposing its will on countries through might. 307 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting we heard the comments there from 308 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 4: US officials about how peace through strength. There's nothing peaceful 309 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 4: about what just happened. You know, this is a very 310 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 4: violent act. You know, there's already reports of casualties as 311 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 4: a result, and of course, you know, the kidnaping of 312 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 4: a sitting president is it's just absolutely extraordinary, extraordinarily violent act. 313 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 4: And so this is not piece whatsoever. And I hope 314 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 4: that there's pushback from US policy makers, from lawmakers, from 315 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 4: the US public around this. That's not what's happening here. 316 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 4: The US once again has reminded us because this is 317 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 4: something that the peoples of Latin America are very much 318 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 4: aware of that. They are willing to engage in these 319 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 4: kinds of illegal actions to impose its will. And like 320 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 4: I said in the other segment that we talked about, 321 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 4: you know, I hope this is a wake up call 322 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 4: because we really have to. 323 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 3: Understand who we're dealing with here. 324 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 4: And there's already as I mentioned earlier, there's already him 325 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 4: talk of him talking about something. 326 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 3: Similar in Mexico. Now he was asked directly about this. 327 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know this is the problem is that 328 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 4: you know, this could lead to a sort of domino 329 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 4: effect where the US says, look what we're. 330 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 3: Willing to do. You want us to do that to 331 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 3: you do exactly as we say. 332 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: Let me go ahead and play to bolster your point 333 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: portion where he's talking about Cuba and Columbia, I believe 334 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: in this particular response, let's listen to that. 335 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 2: Go ahead as a messagere for Cuba and Canal Well, 336 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 2: Cuba is an interesting case. Cuba is, you know, not 337 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 2: doing very well right now. That system has not been 338 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 2: a very good one for Cuba. The people there have 339 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 2: suffered for many, many years. And I think Cuba is 340 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 2: going to be something we'll end up talking about because 341 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 2: Cuba is a failing nation right now, very badly failing nation, 342 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 2: and we want to help the people. It's very similar 343 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 2: in the sense that we want to help the people 344 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 2: in Cuba, but we want to also help the people 345 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 2: that were forced out of Cuba and living in this country. 346 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 2: Do you want to say something about that? 347 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: In markup, I'm sure Marco does want to say something 348 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: about that, doesn't he? And another part though he did, 349 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 1: he was asked about Columbia as well. You talked about Mexico. 350 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just a whole other, wild level of insanity. 351 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 1: It's hard for me to wrap my head around all 352 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: of this. And you know, I mean, I guess the 353 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: best case scenario is this is all like blustering threats 354 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: and him acting like a mad man to try to 355 00:18:56,040 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 1: coerce these various countries and leaders. But I mean, part 356 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 1: of this is incredibly deadly real, not only the regime 357 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 1: change in Venezuela, but now the promise that we are 358 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: directly going to govern in even if it takes boots 359 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: on the ground, even if it takes years. And I 360 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: think this also just improcess upon everyone and for you know, 361 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: those who had any doubt that this is part of 362 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: a long time project to destroy any sort of left 363 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: wing governance in the region. 364 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 3: Absolutely. You know. 365 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 4: One of the terms that I've been using more recently 366 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 4: is the strategic retreat of the United States, you know, 367 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 4: and I think it's actually the national security strategy as 368 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 4: a confession that they are very much willing to admit 369 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 4: that the struggle for total spectral dominance, which is what 370 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 4: they used to talk about of the end of the 371 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 4: Cold War, has largely been lost. That they do have 372 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 4: a pure rival in China, and I think there is 373 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 4: an acknowledgement that they need. 374 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 3: To kind of rebuild their forces. 375 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 4: The United States is not in a position today to 376 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 4: be able to dispute hegemony at a global level, you know, 377 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 4: and actually be able to kind of keep up with 378 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 4: this pure rival. 379 00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 3: And so that's why we see. 380 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,719 Speaker 4: This pivot toward traditional spheres of influence and why we're 381 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 4: seeing what's happening here in Latin America. This attempt to 382 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 4: try to secure access to cheap resources, cheap labor, to 383 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 4: client governments that are willing to do whatever the United 384 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 4: States is willing to do, and those that aren't are 385 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 4: going to face these kinds of threats, and that helps 386 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 4: us understand what he's talking about when they talk about 387 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 4: Cuba and Colombia and Mexico. And like I said, this 388 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 4: is pretty serious because of the precedent it sets, you know, 389 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 4: and that they are willing to put boots on the ground. Now, 390 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 4: can the US really engage in military conflicts in several 391 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 4: countries at once? I think that's quite difficult. So if 392 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 4: they really do intend to occupy Venezuela, that's going to 393 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 4: be a very long distraction and could ultimately define the 394 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:40,200 Speaker 4: Donald Trump presidency. 395 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely, no doubt about it. Yeah, I mean, it's 396 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: it's absolutely wild to see. And to your point about 397 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: hoping that some media outlets and some you know, political 398 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: leaders stand up, there have been some, but the Washington 399 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,959 Speaker 1: Post editorial board has come out in support. I just 400 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: was reading Haquem Jeffrey's statement, which was incredibly weak and 401 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: just basically, you know, did some handwringing about the process. 402 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: So why didn't you go to Congress before doing this 403 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: completely insane thing, which like, okay, that's yes, we want 404 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: you to follow the process, but also let's talk about 405 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: the meat and potatoes of what was done here. You know, 406 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: I think that the Democratic Party will be somewhat split, 407 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: and the leaders of the party, Keem Jeffreys and Chuck 408 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: Schumer in particular, will be somewhat supportive. 409 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 2: You know. 410 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: I think the base of the Democratic Party is going 411 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: to be very opposed. And we'll see. There's so much 412 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: propaganda already on all the cable news nets that it's 413 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 1: just I mean, I can barely listen to it. It's 414 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: so disturbing and so insane. 415 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 4: That's why we need alternative meet and that's why we 416 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 4: need to be able to hear from voices on the. 417 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 3: Ground inside of Venezuela. 418 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 4: We actually just published right now a report on drop 419 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 4: site News featuring some commentary from a young man who 420 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 4: an Afro Venezuelan man who immediately mobilized. He spoke of 421 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 4: how both his siblings and his mom we're scared and crying, 422 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 4: and he said, no, we need to get together and 423 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 4: we need to resist us, because then we know what's 424 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 4: happening and we have to push back against this. And 425 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 4: those are the kinds of attitudes that people need to 426 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 4: be aware of when Trump talks about an occupying force, 427 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 4: about an invasion of their so called administration of Venezuela 428 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,719 Speaker 4: is that you're talking about millions of people who are 429 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 4: not going to stand for it. And that's really, I 430 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 4: think something that we need to drive home, particularly amongst 431 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 4: those who are listening to this program and who want 432 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 4: to push back against this narrative, because you're right, that's 433 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 4: what we're going to hear. We're going to hear about 434 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 4: how this is necessary. The bipartisan imperialist consensus is going 435 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 4: to suggest that, well, we didn't like the methods, but 436 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 4: we like the ends, and so we're going to continue 437 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 4: to support this or probably be billions of dollars spent 438 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 4: on this effort now, and those are billions of dollars 439 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 4: that could be going to healthcare, for example, inside of 440 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 4: the United States. These are all things that I think 441 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 4: put into really clear picture the contradictions that define us 442 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 4: political life here. And it's tragic that once again the 443 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 4: peoples of a global South country like Venezuela are going 444 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 4: to have to pay the price. But I hope it 445 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 4: serves to wake up a lot of people inside the 446 00:22:58,840 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 4: United States. 447 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, where we are is as of the new year, 448 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: you have I don't know how many Americans who have 449 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,719 Speaker 1: seen their healthcare premiums, millions of Americans who've seen their 450 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 1: healthcare premiums spike. You've seen the Epstein scandal continue to 451 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: spin out a control. I recorded a segment earlier this 452 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: week the Wall Street Journal reporting that mar A Laco 453 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: was a key hunting ground for Glaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein. 454 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: So you have that, you have plunging approval rating and 455 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: scandal and incompetence on all fronts. I do think the 456 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: timing of that has to do, you know, in part 457 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: with wanting to distract from some of those scandals. But yeah, 458 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: I have to think as the American people and even 459 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: some people, some people who are in the Trump coalition 460 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: listen to him talk about We're going to rebuild Venezuela's infrastructure, 461 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: that they may feel like, hey, you know, we could 462 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: do with some nation building and some infrastructure here at home. 463 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 1: So look, I'm not under any illusions. Partisanship runs very deep. 464 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:02,360 Speaker 1: The Trump MAGA coalition was more actually adversarial towards his 465 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: strikes in Iran and potential war with Iran. There have 466 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: been you know, pretty widespread I think acceptance in the 467 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: right wing influencer class, at least of potential war with Venezuela. 468 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: I did see Marjorie Taylor Green put out a good statement, 469 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: but you know she's she's about to resign and she's 470 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: on the ounce with the MAGA coalition. So you know 471 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 1: that is that is where we are. And the last thing, 472 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: and I'll say to your point about how it almost 473 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: feels you're sort of like watching the that you are 474 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 1: watching the end of an empire in real time, and 475 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: that this action and the National Security Doctrine all is 476 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: reflective of that decline in stature and stance globally. You know, 477 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: the imagery from this press conference when he wasn't speaking, 478 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: Trump was there falling asleep, like announcing this insane regime 479 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: change war with dire immediate consequences, and he can't even 480 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 1: at you know, almost eighty years old. He can't even 481 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: stay awake for the whole thing. Talk about an image 482 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: of a declining empire. That's it right there. 483 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 4: Although you as other officials, you know, Rubio Vans, they're 484 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 4: much younger and they're very much on board with this 485 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 4: same plant, so that. 486 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 3: Part is really weird. 487 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: We're ready to go. 488 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, after we finished recording the early one, we talked 489 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,239 Speaker 4: about how I injured my hand in yesterday's earthquake here, 490 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 4: and I think it's worth mentioning this crisis that the 491 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 4: United States is living in right now, especially when it 492 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 4: comes to issues like health care. 493 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 3: It doesn't have to. 494 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 4: Be that way. The United States is still the richest 495 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 4: country in the history of the world. There's plenty of 496 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 4: resources there to give a better quality of life to 497 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 4: the US population, and they don't get it because they 498 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 4: spend money doing this instead. Just as a quick anecdote, 499 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 4: you know, as I mentioned to you, I went to 500 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 4: my clinic, I went to the trauma hospital, I was 501 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 4: served in the emerge in less than four hours, and 502 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 4: had my injury attended. That's all of that in a 503 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,479 Speaker 4: middle income country like Mexico, which has decided to invest 504 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 4: in its welfare of the population. That's what you could 505 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 4: have if you're able to push back against you know, 506 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 4: these imperialist designs of the US. 507 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: Really class I want people to release it with this. 508 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 1: You know, here you are in Mexico, a country with 509 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: a lot less wealth and resources than the US, and 510 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: you're able after you your hand is injured, you're able 511 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: to go in get it treated less than four hours, 512 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: receive quality care for zero cost, zero cost, and then 513 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: you know, it's no wonder that Claudia Scheinbaum has one 514 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 1: of the highest aproval ratings in the entire one now 515 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: that she is entirely responsible for that. But you know 516 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: that has been the direction of leadership in Mexico is 517 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: to actually, you know, put the care for their people 518 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: first and foremost, which I think is what some people 519 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: thought when they were voting for America first. 520 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's certainly also what the Bolivarin Revolution was about. 521 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,239 Speaker 4: It was about redistributing that country's wealth to those who 522 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 4: had never been able to access to it. But apparently 523 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 4: that was too much for the US ruling class to tolerate, 524 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 4: and that's why we've seen action after action after action 525 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 4: culminating and what we're witnessing today. 526 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for joining me again. I've 527 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: taken up much more of your day than I originally intended, 528 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 1: but I'm really grateful for it, and your analysis has 529 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: been absolutely invaluable. So thank you so much. 530 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for giving me this space to 531 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 3: talk about this