1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to Worst Year Ever, a production of I Heart 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: Radio Well ever together everything, So don't don't don't Hello 3 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: America and other nations on the globe Earth? What is that? 4 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: How are we we are in the year? It is 5 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: the worst year, but it's not a great year ever. No, 6 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: it's not. It's not the greatest year ever. But maybe 7 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: it is for you personally, if you're listening. And if 8 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: I hope so, I hope schule like Peter Teal or 9 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: somebody you know. Well, yeah, why is his name spelled 10 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: like that? That's your issue with Peter deal. I was 11 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: reading every time I see his name, I read it wrong, 12 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: even though I know what his name is. So style 13 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: feel blood coursing through his veins. Um, hey, hi guys, 14 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: we just caught up for a while before we started recording. 15 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: But at this point in the episode, I want to 16 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: ask you, how are you doing and how is your Thanksgiving? 17 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: Because our listeners don't know Cody, you're super open about 18 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: all of your private life. Give them details with the 19 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: happenings of my personal life. Um, I like there being 20 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: no dividing line between me recording my thoughts and me 21 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: living my life. Hello, it was fine. I went to 22 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: meet some of my girlfriend's family. Um, and uh that 23 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: was nice and pleasant, and we ate and then eventually 24 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: we left cool, nice and that is That is the 25 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: end of my very detailed Robert. Robert got drunk and 26 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: um cooked an alligator. I did. I did get drunk 27 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: and cooked cooked gator. Well, I cooked a gator in 28 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: the proper way to cook that animal, and in the 29 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: method that I was using, which was a pit fire. 30 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: Is to drink heavily and measure the passage of time 31 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: by how many drinks you've had. And by the time 32 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: you've blacked out and people have to fight you in 33 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: order to remove the gator from the fire, the gator 34 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: is probably properly cooked. And in this I think your 35 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: next book should be like a cookbook. I would have 36 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,239 Speaker 1: one meal on it and it's thrown in a hole. 37 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: But like most of the recipe, most of the recipe 38 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: is your adventure during the day as you're getting drunk. 39 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean. It's not really a cookbook, 40 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: It's just a story cooking experience. UM, My Thanksgiving was nice, 41 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: Thank you. I talked about how grateful I was for 42 00:02:53,080 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: friends like you. That's nice and yeah, definitely true, definitely 43 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: a true thing. Um. Should we talk about some news perhaps? 44 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if Katie, Katie, we should Well, 45 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: I guess we'll start with the story that you most 46 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about this week, because the story I 47 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: want to talk about very selfish about. Nope, nope, nope. Wait, 48 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: hold up, this isn't the story that I most wanted 49 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: to talk about this week. I think that we do 50 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: need to talk about it. I have another story that 51 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: I most wanted to talk about and that I actually 52 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: prepped to talk about. Um, this way I imagined would 53 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,119 Speaker 1: be a conversation. But Sophie wanted us to talk about 54 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: this first, and she's probably correct. Okay, well whatever, she 55 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: is probably correct. Three men were convicted of murder last 56 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: Wednesday in the killing of Ahmad are very um, and 57 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: all three of them are facing a mandatory life sentence 58 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: in prison. Um, although we'll see, uh, you know, they're 59 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: going to appeal it. Already. Have talked about this, um, 60 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: and it's good, right, it's good. This is a good thing. Yeah. 61 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like the only reason I wasn't. There's 62 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: not a whole lot to say about it. It's um, Yeah, 63 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: it's the I think minimum you can expect when a 64 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: man is lynched. Uh, yeah, that's that's, that's what it is. 65 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: And I'm glad that they didn't get off because that 66 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: would have been a much more dangerous precedent, I think 67 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: than anything that could have come out of the written 68 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: house case. In a lot of ways. Absolutely, but yeah, 69 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's the thing happened that is not 70 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: the worst thing that could have happened. So good. There 71 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: are some bigger conversations within it, though, Um. Part of 72 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: it is the way that the trial went out and 73 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: the the tactics. So obviously this is a trial about race. 74 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: There's you appropriately describe it as an ching because that's 75 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: what it was, but that's not what was on trial 76 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: necessarily within this and there was a lot of criticism 77 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: throughout it, um, but ultimately it paid off. You know, 78 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: I was listening to interviews and reading things, you know, 79 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: and and it was a majority white jury, and I 80 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: think there was a case of the prosecution didn't necessarily 81 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: want to antagonize the mostly white jury, and so you know, 82 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: that wasn't necessarily the specific angle. I mean, it was, 83 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: but it was just a bit coded, you know, UM, 84 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: and it worked, But there's something in me that's like, 85 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: I you know, and I know that the federal trial 86 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: will will focus more about the specific specificity of it 87 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: being a hate crime. So there is that UM treating 88 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: the delicate jury with their little kid gloves. Yeah, and like, 89 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, you guys see this the d A, 90 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: the defense closing statements. I believe they described they described 91 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: him as having dirty feet. Um, you know. And again 92 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: it's what makes my I mean, there's so so much 93 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: about this, it's awful, but she literally said that that's 94 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: unpopular to say, but I'm proud to say it, or 95 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: something to that effect. It's not like there's stuff to 96 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: unpack here, but I do feel it's important to address 97 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: that thing that is happening. That it's happening, it's continues 98 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: to happen. What what worked, what didn't? How depressing that 99 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: fucking is like that even in this this this trial 100 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: of I hate crying, we're not talking about um race. 101 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: Even in Kyle Rittenhouse's trial, we're not talking about the 102 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: fact that the why as to why he was there, 103 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: who he felt needed to be protected, and who didn't. 104 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: You know, it's just um buildings needed to be yes, 105 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: what needed to be protected, but yeah, yeah, I mean 106 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: it's I don't know. I don't know what to say 107 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: on these cases. I I don't think there's any real 108 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: solution through the legal system to this kind of thing. 109 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: Uh So, I don't know. That is the most I 110 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: can say is that like, yeah, this, this isn't the 111 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: worst thing that could have happened, so good. Yeah. Um. 112 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: A lot of these I mean a lot of these 113 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: trials are sort of like the public like aspects of 114 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: the public, like making seeing if they have permission, yeah, 115 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: do things. And I guess it's good that we were like, 116 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: well not in this case. This is a little much, 117 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: So okay, adjust your behavior slightly. I guess I would 118 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: like to be able to call it what it is 119 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: in the trial that everybody's watching. I would like that. 120 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: I would like us to be living in a world 121 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: where you're not treating the white jury with more respect 122 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: than the person who was murdered. You know, there was 123 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: this whole thing. I I don't know the specifics of it, 124 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: but there was this whole piece of evidence that they 125 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: didn't bring up. It was something to do with their 126 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:20,559 Speaker 1: license plate holder um that would help present the case 127 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: that it was racially motivated. Um, but they didn't because 128 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: there's a good chance that some of the jurors had 129 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: that same license plate, you know. Yeah, what was the 130 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: conferate is a Confederate flag plate. Yeah, that makes sense. 131 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: It's the kind of thing that like racist habit and 132 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: people who don't realize that it's racist, so they don't 133 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 1: want to bring this up in the trial. But yeah, 134 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: it's one of those things. We're dancing around it. But 135 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: why we should be getting We should be at a 136 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: point here in America where we can point it out 137 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: and understand what it means and what represents. But we're not. 138 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: It means States rights and nothing else. So, UM, wait 139 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: for you all? Sorry, go ahead, No, I just give 140 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: the FORLORDA Robert if he would rather talk about his thing. 141 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: I mean, what, what when? Why don't we go on 142 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: with your thank Katie? I was just being fun. I 143 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: don't know that we have much more to say. I'm 144 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: glad it went the way that it did. Then it's 145 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: time to talk about the thing that I think is 146 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: the most important issue facing our nation right now, which 147 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: is the n f T cartoon show. Um that I 148 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: made you both watch? Yes you did? How dare you first? 149 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: So for some context, there's n f T s. If 150 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: you're not aware, you should know the basis if you 151 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: listen to this show. But the way that it is evolved. 152 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: Earlier in the year, it was like a bunch of 153 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: different kind of unique pieces of art, some of which 154 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: sold for ridiculous amounts of money. Um, and then that 155 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: bubble kind of collapsed after a while um. And the 156 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: way to prop up the bubble next turned out to 157 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: be launching these sets of usually ten thousand procedurally generated 158 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: animal drawings of like lions holding blunts and ship um, 159 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: dumb stuff, a lot of apes, and some of these 160 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: have been very successful. Some of them have sold for 161 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: millions of dollars. Most of those are are just money laundering, 162 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: Like the big half billion dollar sale was a guy 163 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: buying his own n f T and then transferring the 164 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: money back into his wallet in order to like raise 165 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: the price to try to con someone else to actually 166 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,599 Speaker 1: spending that much money on is n f T UM. 167 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: So you've got all these monkeys, like the board Ape 168 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: Yacht Club, which just they made a big partnership with 169 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: it was Rolling Stone. They're like all over the place 170 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: they've been doing ads in Times Square, like there's a 171 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: lot of money in these right now. And the basics 172 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: of it is like you buy one of these n 173 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: f T s that's drawing of a monkey again like 174 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: smoking a U or some ship, and they're all the 175 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: same monkey. All the drawings are nearly identical apes and 176 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: yeah apes apes. And when you have that, you both 177 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: have this n f T that you could sell. You 178 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: also get access to like a chat room that they 179 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: all hang out in. That's a big part of it. 180 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: They have like a discord Yeah, and Jimmy Fallon's got one, 181 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: so Cody, you could you could be chatting with Jimmy 182 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: Fallon on the reg if you if you get aboard 183 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: ape come on, man, you you you text me every day? 184 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: I wonder what Jimmy Fallon's And then you go into 185 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: a chat room. Yeah, you get access to like a 186 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: chat room and they have there's like this just a 187 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: bad avatar kind of yeah. Because there's also there's this 188 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: a bunch of these different things, so like one thing 189 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: that exists or long. This is like this kind of 190 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: second lifestyle MMO where you can like own digital real estate. 191 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: And so some people are buying n f T s 192 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: the also unlock like buildings or boats or whatever in 193 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: this game. Anyway, there's a bunch of dumb ship n 194 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: f T s are there's there's a ton of there's 195 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: a ton of dumb ship with n f T s. 196 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: We don't need to go into it too much. No 197 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: fucking time, am I. Right? Yeah, so you've got you've 198 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: got all these stupid monkey clubs that people are joining. 199 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,599 Speaker 1: And one of the things that n f T s 200 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: on their own give you nothing but individual n f 201 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: T s, Like if you buy one of these board ape, 202 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 1: yacht club apes or some of the other big n 203 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: f T kits, you gain the rights to license your 204 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: character which you were again almost identical generated drawings of monkeys. 205 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: You could make your own drawing of a monkey and 206 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: license that. I know you do have that, right, Katie. Um. Unbelievable. 207 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: So some some guys launched what they're bragging is the 208 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: first n f T cartoon, and whenever you whenever I've 209 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: actually gone into the comments, a bunch of n f 210 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: ten neards have been like, actually there's another one that's 211 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: much earlier. Yeah, I don't care, it's probably dumb too, um, 212 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: but they're big selling point that like all of the 213 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: main characters on the show, we're all like licensed from 214 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: people who just own n f t s and the 215 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: background characters are licensing. And this is how everything's gonna 216 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: work in the future. This is how every like show 217 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: is going to be funded. Like you'll buy n f 218 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: t s and then you'll have the licensing rights to 219 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: that little character in this show except for we'll talk 220 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: about the show in a bit, but like that's the 221 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: idea that like, this is how it's going to revolutionize entertainment. 222 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: Is people will You'll say, hey, I want to do 223 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: a show about a bunch of monkeys on on Mars, 224 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: and uh, we'll be using avatars from this set of 225 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: characters and people will buy them and then that money 226 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: funds your show, right, Like that's the idea, and it's 227 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: good for the people funding it because they can license 228 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: the characters if they I'm sure. The way there's something 229 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: is like imagine if like you bought Homer Simpson for 230 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: like fifty dollars to fund the Simpsons, Like how much 231 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: money would you have now? Um by kind of the 232 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: sales pitch, right this is I know it's already been 233 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: pitched and it's happening, and there's nothing to be done about. 234 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:04,959 Speaker 1: What a terrible idea, What a terrible, stupid, stupid, anti 235 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: creative idea. Like I don't we don't need to spend 236 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: too much time on this, but that is really depressing 237 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: and just horrific approach to art. It's obviously like not 238 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: you know every TV shows like differently, that is horrendous. Um, 239 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: I am so bummed out to know that that is 240 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: definitely the future of at least a good portion of 241 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: entertainment and art. Well, I don't know that it is 242 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: because so we just watched the first Well it's really good, 243 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: so I think the Ape Family. You can find it 244 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: on YouTube. It had like a hundred and fifty thousand 245 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: views when I watched it, most of which I think 246 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: have come since people started making fun of it online. 247 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: It was like like forty or fifty thousand views when 248 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: I watched it and started tweeting about it. Um, so 249 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: you guys watched it? What what what did you think? Views? 250 00:14:55,400 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: It was so bad? Robert, it was so bad. It's 251 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: really bad. Um. And I don't know if I was 252 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: just um busy being mad at it or if it 253 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: doesn't have a plot, but I don't. I don't know 254 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: what's going on. I don't know. Just when do you 255 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: want to take a stab at describing the plot of 256 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: this episode. They are some sort of a highest go 257 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: to head Cody. There are some apes and the hell 258 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: have really bad. They're the worst voice actors I've ever heard. 259 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: The woman sounds like a robot woman, one of those 260 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: tex when he got their friends to do it. Yeah, 261 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: and the accents are all over the map. They're all 262 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: over the place. Mixing is shit. Like. Even beyond the accents, 263 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: you can tell every character was a voice recorded in 264 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: a room thousands of miles apart, right, which ideally you 265 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: shouldn't like even in a good podcast, it should quite 266 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: sound like that, you know. But they all feel like 267 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: they are on in their own stories. That's what it 268 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: felt like. Plot. Yeah, there was no story. Weird things 269 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: just for sake of being weird. They're not like rooted 270 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: in some character motivation or you know what I mean, 271 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: like a well thought out Yeah, some of it, but 272 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: like you anyway, go ahead, I mean some of the 273 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: Like the randomness you're talking about is very much like 274 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: trying to mine uh, like the adults swim uh sort 275 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: of like tone yeah, but they're not. But but it's like, 276 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: forgive the phrase they're aping stuff like they're like they're 277 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: taking a stuff that exists and doing like a shadow 278 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: of a shadow of a shadow of a shadow of it, 279 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: so that it doesn't make sense, like like even the 280 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: like blank months earlier, like two hours earlier, whatever, isn't 281 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: that just like a SpongeBob thing. Yeah, I mean there's 282 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: a few. Yeah, it's it's it's funny because in terms 283 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,199 Speaker 1: of like thinking about not funny, but the situation, the 284 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: situation in terms of like what their influences are, because 285 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: I think that's a fascinating thing to discuss. Is like 286 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 1: what they're trying to do here. I see bits of 287 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: like Xavier Renegade Angel. I see like bits of of 288 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: a couple of things, including like Aquitine hunger Force. But 289 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: more than anything, I think it's Rick and Morty uh 290 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: and yeah, and I think the thing that they're trying 291 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: I think like if I could, if I could go back, 292 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: if I could guess what the pitch was in whatever 293 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: fucking discord room for people who own monkey drawings this 294 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: was dreamed up in um, it would be something like, 295 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: you know, the cool thing about Rick and Morty is 296 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: they've got all these kookie characters from all around the 297 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: universe all the time. Right, Well, there's all these wacky 298 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: and f T characters. We could make a show like that, 299 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: but everybody like we license people's in f T s 300 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: and that'll show people this is a good idea and 301 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: the problem with that. And if you if you look 302 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: at the I think the individual who's humor their most 303 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: again aping here is Justin Royland, right Like that's they're 304 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: really trying to do a lot of Justin Royland. And 305 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: if you look at the show that got us Rick 306 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 1: and Morty, like the show that was adapted into Rick 307 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: and Morty was like a series of short animated skets, 308 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: just sketches Justin did called Doc and Marty, which is 309 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: like a parody of Back to the Future if the 310 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: Doc was constantly trying to molest a child. Um, Like 311 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: that really is the joke. And about eight five eight 312 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:31,959 Speaker 1: something like that years ago, whenever it came out, it 313 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: was funny for the first like fifteen minutes or so, 314 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: maybe like generously um. And otherwise the main thing you said, oh, 315 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: Justin Royland is really good at voices, um. And it 316 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 1: was not actually funny and missing the mark on the 317 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: concept here. The thing that became the reason it's whether 318 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: you like it or not, it's a successful show, right, 319 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: It's the biggest animated show in the world. The thing 320 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: that made it a successful animated show, I'm not going 321 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 1: to take a value judgment about it, was that they 322 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 1: took the things that Justin Royland was good at, which 323 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: was being occasionally wacky and random in a way that 324 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,719 Speaker 1: was somewhat creative and good at doing voices, and they 325 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: married it to a team of really good writers and 326 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: another guy, Dan Harmon, who is excellent at story structure. 327 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: And so the thing about Rick and Morty's as random 328 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: and silly as some of the comedy is like, there's 329 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: always a really pretty tight structure to the stories because 330 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: it's made by people who care about telling stories. There's 331 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: not a story here. There's there's not really jokes because 332 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: they're too random to even be jokes. Can I interject 333 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 1: real quick and say that we need to take an 334 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: ad break and then come back pick this up, Cody 335 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 1: hold that thought. I got it. Behind the curtain, We're 336 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: really not going anywhere. I just got to say that 337 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: we are so that we can put the ads into 338 00:19:45,240 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: right here, we're right here, everything back a what were 339 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: you going to say that the apes deserve the Emmy's um? 340 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: That will just in terms of Robert what you're talking about. 341 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: The even the thing is like randomness can be funny 342 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: if you expect a certain thing and then like, oh 343 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 1: I'm surprised, so I laugh. But even the the quote 344 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: randomness on a show like Rick and Morty, there is 345 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: a Rhymann reason to it. There are expectations that that 346 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: you are given and then those expectations are subverted, like 347 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: there is a structure to even just the seemingly unstructured parts. Um. 348 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,719 Speaker 1: And obviously like they're going to improvise and do like 349 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: bits and stuff like a bunch of what the two 350 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: brothers like all that kind of stuff like that is funny, um, 351 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 1: but there's nothing here that indicates like thought beyond like, oh, 352 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: random thing, right, UM. I have one big note for it. 353 00:20:58,200 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: And I don't know if this was on purpose or not, 354 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 1: but in the episode, the mother Ape refers to her 355 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: children as these two little monkeys, and when I was 356 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: watching it, my thought was, they're not monkeys, they're apes. 357 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: And then later on somebody calls them all monkeys, and 358 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: the mother's like, we're apes, We're not monkeys. Do you 359 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: see a tail? And I am not sure they did 360 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: that on purpose. Yeah, I don't know either. I'm like 361 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: fifty on whether or not they just overlooked the first part. Yeah, 362 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,479 Speaker 1: it's just like it's just because it's supposed to be 363 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: saying something about her as a character, they're missing them. 364 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: They're not doing it right. I don't know what they're 365 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: trying to say. Is this like an in joke? I 366 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, So are spending a lot of time 367 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: talking about it's the most important story in the world. Well, 368 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: it is, like because it's not the It's not the 369 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: only thing that's that's gonna be this. It's not the 370 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: only like license like weird to Eric avatars turned into 371 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: a show by people who have no like actually like 372 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: creative output. Um, this will be a good segue into 373 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: a thing I want to talk about briefly, which is 374 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: Mr Beasts squid Game. First, I have one more thing 375 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: to say about this video, please. One good thing about 376 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: the video and also embarrassing, is that there are literally 377 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: two minutes of end credits. Oh yeah, and because they've 378 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: got to give all the people who'se n F T s. 379 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: They used credit minutes of end credits out of an 380 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: eight minute video. What do you Know is produced by 381 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: two Chains and its music by two Chains. I can't 382 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: believe that. Man um I like, I likes I like 383 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: this catchphrase fuck yeah very so many times. It's so 384 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: it's just such a it's I mean again, swear words 385 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: are the only joke they really have. Uh, it's it's 386 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: just the lamest thing in the world. The ship they're 387 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: going to Muskville on March embarrassing. Uh, Cody do your transition. 388 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: And the other thing that I speaking of content that 389 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: is not creative and the death of art um so 390 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: Mr Beast if you're familiar. Uh, he's like gaming YouTuber 391 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: kind of all those sorts of things that you would 392 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: think of. He does a lot of events like I 393 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: paid this sucking person ten tho dollars if they fuck 394 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: their mother and we're gonna see if they do. Um. 395 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: Not that that's not exact example, but that kind of thing, 396 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna like give him money and see what 397 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: they fucking do. I think we should do that. But 398 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: for members of Congress and the thing that we have 399 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: them do, should always be having sex with a dead pick. Yeah. 400 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: Just hey, that pig was alive in black, and I 401 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: think we should rule so that that is the only 402 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: legal form of campaign contribution and it has to be filmed. 403 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: So if you want to run and you want to 404 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: use money to run, more power to you. You're gonna 405 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: do if you're running a billion dollar president. Yeah, so 406 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: Iphie wanted us to mention the doctor that doctor Oz 407 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: is running for a future pig fucker, doctor Oz, but 408 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: now possibly current pig. It's the idea that like every 409 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: time someone announces like I will I am putting my 410 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: hat in the ring for president in the United States, 411 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: we can call them all future pig fuckers. I am 412 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: putting out I had in the ring, and I am 413 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: putting my dick in that pigs campaign finance form for you. 414 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: Can we make a hat that's his future big bucks, 415 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: a future pigfucker every president. Yeah, there's something there. Someone 416 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: hit us up with a design for that. Okay, for 417 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: all your future pig fuckers out there. Um. Yeah, so 418 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: Mr PC does this kind of thing and like whatever, 419 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: not my cup of tea, maybe your cup of tea, 420 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: that's cool. Um. But then a show called squid Game 421 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: came out, and that show is about people doing people 422 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: who are desperate for money doing things that maybe they 423 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't do if they weren't desperate for money, like let 424 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: each other die or literally kill each other. Um. And 425 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've watched the show, it's still 426 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 1: haven't but at this point I guess I, well, I'll 427 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,360 Speaker 1: try to keep a spoiler free, but more or less, 428 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: it's a game of murder, uh, for money, for the 429 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: entertainment of the wealthy. And uh. So that show is 430 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: a success because it's good. Um, I think it's good. 431 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 1: Some people don't, and that's fine. Some people don't like 432 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: it because they think it's pro communism or pro capitalism 433 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 1: or some interpretation. I don't know it is. I mean, 434 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: it's objectively like the most successful thing Netflix has ever 435 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: had on right. I think listeners of the show are 436 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: familiar by now because we have talked about it, definitely 437 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: talked about the shallow pool uh tempooles. I have not 438 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: watched it because watching literally anything would get in the 439 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: way of rewatching King of the Hill for the tenth time. 440 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 1: I understand that the thing I'm primarily doing, but it 441 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: sounds like it's good. It's good. I like, I like it. 442 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: I'm watching something else. Um, it's very good, I think, 443 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: And it's about that. Mr Beast was like, well, I'm 444 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: gonna do the squid games. I'm gonna build the squid 445 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 1: games from incredible and he did it, so if I'm 446 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: not mistaken, And the show is about how dystopian and 447 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: horrific it would be if people were forced to compete 448 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: with each other in and and like their loved ones 449 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: in horrible ways in order to make money because they 450 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: desperately need money. And a guy made a show where 451 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: people competed with their ones in order to make money 452 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: and they didn't die, thankfully, But like otherwise it he 453 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 1: just did the thing. He just it's not like a parody. 454 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: It's not a commentary. He just did the same thing. 455 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: But murder um, Yeah, there's not there's no murder. Nobody dies. Um. 456 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: But it is good. Yeah, it's just the games from 457 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 1: the thing from the show without the murder um, which again, yes, 458 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: it is good. Um, but there's no you know, I 459 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: I skimmed it. I gave it a little glance. Um, 460 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: there's no like commentary on the thing. There's no drawing 461 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: connections to what they're doing and and the show they're 462 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: like aping. Um, it's not a parody, it's just is 463 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 1: the thing. Um. And at the very end, instead of 464 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 1: playing squid game they do musical chairs, which very disappointed 465 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: in them for doing that. Um, but uh, it's mostly 466 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: I mostly just want to talk about this tweet um 467 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: that has since deleted actually on account of how bad 468 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: it was. Mr Best squid game video a hundred and 469 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: three million views in four days. It took seven weeks 470 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: to make Netflix's Squid Game series a hundred eleven million 471 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: views in thirty days. It took ten years to make 472 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,719 Speaker 1: more views, less time, fewer gatekeepers. That's the promise of 473 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: the creator economy. Here with this, this is so depressing, 474 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: it's stupid. It's stupid. Well, and the thing is and 475 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 1: the thing that maybe more people should be aware of 476 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: this person in particular, And like Mr Beast, I guess 477 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. There's content creators and then there's art, 478 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: and they're not the same thing. Sometimes they're the same thing. Yeah, 479 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: his his his thing doesn't exist without the original, without 480 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,959 Speaker 1: the concept, without nobody would you care about it? Otherwise 481 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: you you leached off of something that already existed. You 482 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: didn't create anything, right, or your success is like if 483 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: you're looking if you're trying to develop, like if you're 484 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: trying to like lad your out the achievements of like 485 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: artists or the creator economy, like as as if their 486 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: verses each other. Then your success goes on the ledger 487 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: of the guy who made Squid Game, because there would 488 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: be nothing for you to do exactly. Also probably owe 489 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: him money or something. You may be breaking the law. 490 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: I know people are talking about it. From what I've read, 491 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: doesn't seem like a lawsuit, dude, but no, he he 492 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: recreated the set from the show, which was meticulously designed 493 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: by artists. Uh, it does seem like he broke the 494 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: law a bit right, But like, but no, I think 495 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: you can call a parody or whatever even though it's not. 496 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: It's just doing the thing um transformative about it. It 497 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: took ten years aside from the fact that like people 498 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: do by the show and didn't want to make the show. 499 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: It takes a long time to create art from whole cloth, 500 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: and like what do the sets look like? Oh? What 501 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: if it's this? What if there's some meaning here? Like 502 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: you're infusing meaning into the visuals of your show because 503 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: you're making art, you're not making content in a couple 504 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: of weeks so that you can just like it's it. 505 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: The tweet is accurate, um, And it's depressing that it's accurate, 506 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: because again, like Mr Beast, you're doing this video about 507 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: a show that is kind of about what you do. 508 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: Like obviously you don't like put them in dangerous like 509 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: situations where they have to die, but you're paying people 510 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: lots of money to do things that they don't want 511 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: to do, um because they're desperate for the money. Um. 512 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: So there's just a huge disconnect there that kind of 513 00:30:55,480 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: bums me out. It's fine, it's successful, and we we 514 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: love it. Actually doesn't sound like but yeah, I just 515 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: saw that and I had to this is this is 516 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: this is apparently the show where I talked about the 517 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: squid game every couple of weeks um. And so we 518 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: don't know like our purview is anymore. So why the 519 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: hell not? Do you guys want to take another quick break? Oh? God, 520 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: I love quick breaks. That's that's the thing that I 521 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: was really wanting. I was just about to text to Sophie, 522 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: you know it would be good Right now, I'm gonna 523 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: quick breaking quick, fucking break quick, his hell, babyget everything, 524 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: don't don't don't and we are back a package. I 525 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: thought more about the Red Ape family. You have more 526 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: to say, No, I mean yes, always do something else 527 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: to talk about, please least I love. I love talking 528 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: about other goods. Is it about the future of content 529 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: and now it's going to be really good? No? Hard 530 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 1: pivot to the future of COVID. Oh, I'm very I'm 531 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: very excited for the future of COVID. I think I 532 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be big. It's going to invest in 533 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: cot now. I think it's going to be huge, bigger 534 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,959 Speaker 1: than ever. I would say the smart money is not 535 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: on shorting COVID. COVID bigger than the Beatles, bigger than 536 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: Jesus all Macron Macron, Yeah, that's it. It's It's very funny. 537 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: It's very funny that two cartoons from my my adolescence 538 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: in early adulthood uh later wound up associated directly with 539 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: horrific tragedies because of their names of names in them. 540 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: It's very funny, Archer and isis oh God that so? Yes? 541 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: Of course? Um? Right? Was it on Thanksgiving? Right around then? Um? 542 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: The news comes from South Africa that a new variant 543 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: has been discovered, um. When there's a lot to unpack here. 544 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: But first off is just the reactions uh to it, 545 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: um specifically travel bands. Travel bands are pretty pointless, especially 546 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: since we know that it's already everywhere. It's everywhere. It's 547 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: hasn't been officially discovered here in the United States, but 548 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: it is here. Um, it's been spreading. It's all over Europe. UM. 549 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: I mean, seems like the time for travel bands was 550 00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: like a year and like nine months ago. Shut down 551 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: all air traffic in February, like specifically for a couple 552 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: of months. Yeah, maybe, but like also specifically saying okay, 553 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: like there was a big a rapid and lots of 554 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: countries halting travel from South Africa, which is actually shitty. 555 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: South African scientists discovered it and have now been penalized 556 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: for specifically discovering something um vital to everyone. Um. However, Yeah, 557 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:38,399 Speaker 1: let's talk about Africa real quick, or just in general, um, 558 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: the intellectual property protection that has been in place this 559 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: whole time over the vaccines and the lack of availability 560 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: that we have for the rest of the world. This 561 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 1: is exactly what we've been talking about. The entire time 562 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,720 Speaker 1: that if you do not get everybody vaccinated, it will mutate. 563 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 1: And Africa specifically has a low vaccination right and a 564 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: high uh percentage of people with pre existing conditions, um, 565 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 1: which happens to be the breeding grounds for mutations to 566 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: come about. So and by the way, that's not saying 567 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: anything about Africa. That's saying something about the rest of 568 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: the world in the way that we've treated Africa. Sure, 569 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: but um, it's it's it's really frustrating. I was very 570 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 1: angry when I saw I mean, yes, asident Biden spoke 571 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: up saying like we need to make the vaccine lifted 572 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: into yeah, and then Maderna was like no, thank you, 573 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: and like, fuck you say that from the beginning, man, 574 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: this is yes, yes, yes, we've been seeing this. Keep 575 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: saying it. Um yeah he pops he pops in every 576 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:50,399 Speaker 1: like couple of months and be like yeah, I think 577 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: we should do that, and then that's it. Yeah, And 578 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: it's I it's so fucking bleak that South Africa has 579 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: invest did so much money and having like an unparalleled 580 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: like genetic analysis system for virology. Um, like they're they're 581 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: really good at testing and looking for mutations and what 582 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: like that's why they were the first ones to find this. 583 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: It didn't start there, they were just the first ones 584 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: to find it. And as a result, uh, they're just 585 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 1: getting sucked over, like they're showed on re agents and 586 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: stuff to continue testing because nobody is allowed to fly there. 587 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 1: And it's look, I'll just say like maybe it started there, 588 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 1: maybe it didn't, but it's not there's no evidence. But 589 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 1: there's no evidence, right, that's just what everybody's trying. I'm 590 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,280 Speaker 1: just saying like maybe maybe not. That's not the fucking point, 591 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,879 Speaker 1: and we should have known this. The reason it's called 592 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: the Spanish flu wasn't because it started in Spain. In fact, 593 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 1: there's good evidence that say that it may have started 594 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: in like Kansas. Um. It's because since Spain was not 595 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: dragged into World War two with their World War One 596 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: with everybody else, they didn't have restrictions on the press 597 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: in the same way that everyone else had, so they 598 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 1: were able to report on the fucking plague first, and 599 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: as a result, it gets called the Spanish flu um 600 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: And maybe maybe the people whose job it is to 601 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: name these things should have decades ago put in a 602 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 1: place to like very vigorously fight against identifying a strain 603 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: with the country that it came out in, although some 604 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,320 Speaker 1: of that I don't know how much of that is 605 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,919 Speaker 1: the media. I'm not gonna make to go too much 606 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: on it, but like, it's just it's very frustrating that 607 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: this keeps happening mm hmm, that the people who just 608 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 1: are on the most on the ball get punished, and 609 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 1: I I I don't want everybody to freak out immediately. 610 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 1: You know, we have to wait and see. We have 611 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 1: to see what conclusions are arrived at once they have 612 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: more information. We don't know that will lead to more 613 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: deaths or hospitalizations, although it seems to be um but 614 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: it is concerning, So I don't know. Delta had like 615 00:37:54,680 --> 00:38:00,399 Speaker 1: what five mutations tend this one has. It has date 616 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: like a lot of affecting this the spike proteins. It 617 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: does not mean that our vaccines are now useless. We 618 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: are we don't know. Scientists seem to think like most 619 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 1: likely it's still much better than nothing. So it is 620 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 1: definitely a wait and see. But you know, I do 621 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:24,839 Speaker 1: notice that this people are governments are reacting quicker to this, 622 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: which is either a sign of that it's worrying or 623 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: that maybe people are learning, but I don't think learning. 624 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: I think we're just used to this at this point. 625 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,800 Speaker 1: And I think they may that we were so close 626 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: to things getting quote unquote normal again that they may 627 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: be scared as ship of the possibility that like this 628 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: is going to disrail that yet again. Like I I 629 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 1: don't see how you could enforce lockdowns again, Like I mean, 630 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 1: I don't. I truly don't know. Maybe other countries, but 631 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 1: here in America, I don't know. We're we have done 632 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:03,439 Speaker 1: all that we do as a country. We're just again, 633 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 1: We're we're done. There's no even if the next virus 634 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,800 Speaker 1: that comes around is literally like a you you breathe 635 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 1: it in and you're dead immediately. Like, we will not 636 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,399 Speaker 1: take any precautions ever again for public safety we have 637 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 1: we have. We are burnt out on taking care of 638 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:24,720 Speaker 1: each other. That's bleak. Good country. I don't know, maybe 639 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 1: it's not that bad, but it certainly feels that way. Um. 640 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, well we'll see. Uh. You gotta have 641 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 1: gotta have hope for humans a little bit, right, Yeah, 642 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: I mean, we could do better. Again, we have all 643 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 1: of the tools to have locked down effectively and made 644 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 1: it not be a nightmare or we we we were capable, 645 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: We we could have that a number of things that 646 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: we didn't do. But I don't. I don't know. Yeah, 647 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,279 Speaker 1: I think it is. I don't. It doesn't look like 648 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 1: there's any real thing for people to change in terms 649 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: of their behavior right now, assuming you were actually being yeah, careful, bore, 650 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:10,439 Speaker 1: like get your booster, tweeted something like that, don't use 651 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: a macron as an excuse to not get your booster, 652 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 1: or like to wait to see if there's a different one. 653 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 1: Get that booster. Shot at your booster better than Yeah, 654 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: I still need I'm working. I need to to this week. Um, 655 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 1: we got some more time boys, anything else? Jack Dorsey 656 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 1: again stepping down his CEO. Not sure what to say 657 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 1: about that. Oh yeah, we can talk about that a 658 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,320 Speaker 1: little bit. So the guy who is replacing him, Oh gosh, 659 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: I'm I've forgotten his name, But to be fair, I'm 660 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: just I'm I will always be angry that I know 661 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: Jack Dorsey's name. So yeah, Um, I don't know that 662 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:53,680 Speaker 1: I'm pronouncing this right A ball? Yeah yeah. So um. 663 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: Part is he came to the company in two does 664 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 1: on eleven um. He'd worked at Microsoft and Yahoo and 665 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: probably I think one or two other places before that 666 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: he's an engineer, and he got like big pretty early 667 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,280 Speaker 1: on at pushing some I think mainly AI driven changes 668 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: to try to improve relevance of the tweets that people 669 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: saw in order to increase engagement, and that was met 670 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:19,320 Speaker 1: with like an unparalleled boost in traffic to the site. 671 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 1: Like he made changes to try to make the things 672 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: people were seeing more relevant. And I don't entirely know 673 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 1: what they mean by relevant. Oftentimes relevant means in social 674 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 1: media terms like makes people angry. So I'm not sure 675 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 1: this is a good thing. But the changes he made 676 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: significantly drove traffic to Twitter, and so he got like 677 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: a special position. Um, Like, hey, they like made him 678 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 1: an engineer with like a special title to acknowledge that 679 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 1: he had some huge impact on traffic, Dorsey says. And 680 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,359 Speaker 1: I don't think Dorsey's lying about this. I think Dorsey 681 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 1: believes this that that Prague has been kind of behind, 682 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 1: in a major voice, behind every positive move Twitter has made. 683 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 1: And again, when Dorsey says positive, it means for Twitter 684 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 1: being a profitable company and and having lots of engagement 685 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,719 Speaker 1: and members. It does not mean like this this is 686 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,839 Speaker 1: the thing because this has been immediately politicized like everything is, 687 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 1: and so a lot of people on the right are 688 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,760 Speaker 1: flipping out because number one progue like tweeted a joke, 689 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 1: like a line from a joke from a Saturday Night Lie. No, no, 690 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 1: it was a Daily Ship video years like a decade ago, 691 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 1: um that that was. And the joke was like, if 692 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:31,399 Speaker 1: you're going to consider all uh Muslims to be potential extremists, 693 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 1: then like, I why not consider all white people to 694 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 1: be racist? Or something like that, Like it was not 695 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 1: even that funked up a line, and he was saying, 696 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 1: if you're gonna be racist in this way, what why 697 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 1: not be racist in that way? Like it's perfectly reasonable 698 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 1: thing to say. But he was also just quoting a 699 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 1: joke sketch. But people have so now there's this attitude 700 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 1: that he's hyper woke. And the other thing is there 701 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,839 Speaker 1: was this quote from him in an interview where he says, like, 702 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 1: we're not concerned with the First Amendment at Twitter, and 703 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 1: in the context of it, what he's saying is a 704 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,560 Speaker 1: guy's asking him like, hey, when you're talking about moderating discussions, 705 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 1: stopping disinformation and still supporting free speech, you know how 706 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: do you how do you balance your desire to support 707 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,799 Speaker 1: free speech with you know, your desire to love or 708 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,120 Speaker 1: like keeping the content moderate. And all he said was like, 709 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 1: we're not the First Amendment. Isn't our job. We're Twitter, right, Like, 710 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 1: we're not bound by the First Amendment. We don't. This 711 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,839 Speaker 1: is not an issue of freedom of speech. We're going 712 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,280 Speaker 1: to restrict stuff that's in our view bad for discourse, 713 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 1: stuff like disinformation. Right. That's what he was saying in 714 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,560 Speaker 1: that which is perfectly reasonable and what every single social 715 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 1: media company says because none of them are bound by 716 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 1: the First Amendment. It's not a First Amendment issue. Um. 717 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 1: But people are taking on the right or taking that 718 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,319 Speaker 1: as evidence that he's like hyperwoke. I don't actually think 719 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 1: there's any evidence that he is. Um. He's tweeted his 720 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 1: support of like the a c l U a few times, 721 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 1: but the a c l US like gone to bat 722 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 1: for the free speech of Nazis. It is very much 723 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:57,360 Speaker 1: like a free speech absolute dis guide of organization. Um. 724 00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 1: I'm not critiquing them and that I'm just saying, like 725 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 1: that's a it's it's weird to call the a c 726 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 1: l U hyper woke when they're really just like we 727 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 1: defend several of the amendments, not all of them, you know. Yeah, 728 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,320 Speaker 1: I also can't. I just can't think any CEO is hyperwoke. 729 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't see evidence the hyperwoke would 730 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: be not being primarily concerned with, you know, your income 731 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 1: or your growth, like hyper woke would be genuinely caring 732 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 1: about and I haven't. It's a useless term. What does 733 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,240 Speaker 1: it even mean anymore? Like what do you mean like hyperwoke? Like, yeah, 734 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:37,439 Speaker 1: police are ship Like what do you like? What is it? Like? 735 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,319 Speaker 1: I don't know, well, you know what it is what 736 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,840 Speaker 1: they're doing trying to say like, oh, this guy is 737 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 1: going to be just like those people on Worst Year ever. 738 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 1: I know what hyperwoke? That's depending on who says it. 739 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 1: That's the thing. Um, it's the same thing with like 740 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's like s J. W Hipster like 741 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 1: whatever the word is. It's just useless now, um yeah, 742 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 1: And that's that's part of the plot because we they 743 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,919 Speaker 1: isn't Like the point the point of this is not 744 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 1: that anything that this guy has done anything wrong or 745 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 1: that there's in fact any evidence that he would be 746 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 1: unfair to conservatives because there's not um. What it is 747 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,920 Speaker 1: about is if you if you accuse him of that 748 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 1: and attack him for that. Usually the way it works 749 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,319 Speaker 1: on these kinds of people is they then cracked down 750 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 1: on your opponents in order to make it seem like 751 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 1: they're being fair and there that maybe what just happened 752 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 1: to day because because there was a Twitter announced new 753 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 1: rule today that you'll get banned for posting like what 754 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,400 Speaker 1: they just like pictures of people that they don't consent 755 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 1: to having up, which, like, depending on how it's interpreted, 756 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 1: could destroy photojournalism on Twitter. Like it could mean it's 757 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 1: illegal to take a photo or video of like a 758 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 1: protest um. It could mean it's illegal to like film 759 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,799 Speaker 1: a guy's shooting into a crowd or something like. We 760 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 1: don't really know how they would enforce it. It could 761 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 1: destroy guys like and you know, or it could just 762 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,800 Speaker 1: make it illegal for people to point out when folks 763 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,319 Speaker 1: have neo Nazi ties, and we'll do nothing to harm 764 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 1: him because they'll decide that him posting people's mug shots 765 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,880 Speaker 1: is in the public interest. We really don't know, Like 766 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,799 Speaker 1: that's the thing. Everybody's like flipping out that this guy 767 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 1: is clearly so I have we have I have no 768 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 1: idea where this guys. But also that's part of what 769 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 1: I mean by like it's preemptive. They start raising a 770 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,880 Speaker 1: stink now then yeah, it's like putting them on guard 771 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 1: because you know, well, we're going to have to capitulate 772 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 1: at some point or we can't be seen as being 773 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 1: uh aligned with progressives. Are you know, not even progressive? 774 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 1: But you know what I mean the hyper woke? Yeah, 775 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 1: I mean it's they the most popular like articles every 776 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: single day on Facebook are like the Daily Wire and stuff, um, 777 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,400 Speaker 1: And they let them slip by with their various publication 778 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 1: rules because they know like it will be yea this, 779 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 1: then like will complain and then we'll get we'll get 780 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,279 Speaker 1: accused of this, so they have to Yeah, like you're 781 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:09,400 Speaker 1: saiding like overcorrect um in the other direction, it's cool, 782 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:16,440 Speaker 1: it's good stuff band. Also like he's like any like 783 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 1: CEO or like just like oh the CEO hyperwoke? Or 784 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 1: is he trying to maximize profits and seeing like where 785 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 1: the wind is blowing, yeah, which which also isn't good, 786 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 1: but like that's not the same. That's what I mean, 787 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 1: Like that's the most that's like the best case scenario 788 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 1: from a CEO best case, it's not. Yeah, I mean, yeah, 789 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 1: it's just not a thing we know much about, and 790 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 1: it's not a thing I think one way or the other, 791 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 1: because yeah, this guy might wind up being horrible and 792 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 1: a wide variety of reasons. As Jack Dorsey was, Um, 793 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,520 Speaker 1: I just think it's foolish to assume, based on the 794 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 1: information we have, that this guy has any overarching goals 795 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 1: other than increasing the engagement and relevance of Twitter. And 796 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 1: by his definition of those terms, you know, yeah, he 797 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,239 Speaker 1: wants people to stay on the website. Yeah, exactly. That 798 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 1: means like cracking down on X or Y. He'll do that. 799 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 1: If it means letting people go hog wild, he'll do that. 800 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,240 Speaker 1: If it means implementing like a rule that people hate 801 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,919 Speaker 1: and then getting rid of it later so that people 802 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,840 Speaker 1: complain on the platform, Like, it's just whatever keeps people 803 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 1: on ever, keeps people on the website and engaged. Um, 804 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,080 Speaker 1: there is some good news to talk about at the 805 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 1: end of this. Is it h Maxwell's trial, no Villan's trial. 806 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,759 Speaker 1: But um, there's some some air Wars put out some 807 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 1: conflict data showing kind of where we are on air 808 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:56,320 Speaker 1: strikes since like the over the last year that Biden 809 00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,239 Speaker 1: has been in office and kind of, um there's here, 810 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 1: I'll put a linked to the tweet in there so 811 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:04,719 Speaker 1: you can see it. But um, it's it's good. Uh. 812 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 1: The like the amount of air strikes being conducted by 813 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 1: the United States, the event like drone strikes being carried 814 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,520 Speaker 1: out by the United States at the lowest they've been 815 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 1: like in a very long time. Um since kind of 816 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 1: unrestricted drone warfare really kicked off. Um Like, if you 817 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,480 Speaker 1: look at where and you know, they dropped, they dropped 818 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 1: significantly um over the course of yeah, from starting because 819 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 1: they they escalated massively the first two years that Trump was, 820 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,799 Speaker 1: the first year or so Trump was in office, and 821 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 1: then started declining after that, and they've dropped down even 822 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 1: further um since Biden took office. Also, aren't there because 823 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:50,400 Speaker 1: I thought in U like there were new regulations and 824 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:54,280 Speaker 1: new rules on how they how drone strikes are reported. Well, 825 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,320 Speaker 1: it was the opposite. It was they they they stopped 826 00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,160 Speaker 1: the requirement to report on that. That's what me like, 827 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:01,759 Speaker 1: I feel like, I feel like that like a lot 828 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,680 Speaker 1: of wars coming from like stuff obviously that the U 829 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 1: S admits to, but they don't they don't limit like 830 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,920 Speaker 1: air Wars does a pretty good job of like looking 831 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,680 Speaker 1: trying to determine this as best as possible. Okay, so 832 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,000 Speaker 1: it's like not just like these were reported and also 833 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 1: these and the well actually this chart includes alleged strikes 834 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 1: and declared strikes, alleged and declared. So air Wars like 835 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 1: they do a lot of research to attempt to be 836 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,480 Speaker 1: as accurate as possible. Nothing's going to be perfect, but 837 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 1: this probably is is largely accurate to what's actually happened, 838 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 1: which is that thing. And some of that's just because 839 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,279 Speaker 1: when when things massively escalated under Trump, um, it was 840 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 1: we were fighting Isis and Mosel, you know, like that 841 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 1: was a huge chunk of those and that's part of 842 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:49,439 Speaker 1: why it started to drop in. Um. There's also been 843 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 1: you know, we were not in Afghanistan anymore. We've really 844 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,080 Speaker 1: pulled down our presence in Syria. UM. So there's there's 845 00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,239 Speaker 1: a number of reasons for this, but it is just 846 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:02,439 Speaker 1: like we're less people with drones than we were years ago. 847 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,799 Speaker 1: And that's good. That's good. That's something that's good. Good, 848 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,080 Speaker 1: good way to bring it home for us this week, 849 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,360 Speaker 1: Robert Ye, less people are being killed by US drone 850 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,560 Speaker 1: strikes um and that's not the worst news. Take that 851 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 1: to the bank. Well, don't take that to the bank. 852 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 1: Don't take that that you have an account here? What 853 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:21,879 Speaker 1: do you do? What are you telling me this? Where 854 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,439 Speaker 1: did you get this predator drone? Is this some sort 855 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:29,879 Speaker 1: of n f T How is this? That's the most 856 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,279 Speaker 1: common question. I ask only only go to the bank 857 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,799 Speaker 1: if you have money, Like that's not like I don't 858 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,240 Speaker 1: take this this drone. Don't take this this this conversation. 859 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,800 Speaker 1: Even unless you're going to rob a bank with a drone, 860 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:46,400 Speaker 1: which I that has to happen. They don't do that. Also, 861 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,759 Speaker 1: don't do that. I'm not telling you to do that. 862 00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,640 Speaker 1: But if you did that, it would probably be pretty cool. 863 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:57,040 Speaker 1: I probably get some would probably be sweet. Look what 864 00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 1: things can be cool? And I'm not endorsing them. I'm 865 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,759 Speaker 1: just saying if somebody robbed a bank with drones, that 866 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,520 Speaker 1: would probably be pretty rad. So you're saying n f 867 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,879 Speaker 1: T s are cool, you just don't endorse them. If 868 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:12,279 Speaker 1: they funded their drone bank robbery scheme by selling n 869 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,360 Speaker 1: f T s, I guess those n f T s. 870 00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,799 Speaker 1: I would think we're cooler than other n f T s. 871 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,879 Speaker 1: Because we got a real world drone bank robbery out 872 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,520 Speaker 1: of and then there will be a show with all 873 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:26,279 Speaker 1: these little different drone flyte to know. Yeah, there's a 874 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:31,840 Speaker 1: lot of really exciting cont if the problem. If the 875 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 1: promise of n f t s was just more creative, 876 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,560 Speaker 1: crowdfunded bank robberies, I think I would probably not be 877 00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,000 Speaker 1: critiquing them so hard and we wouldn't have all watched 878 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,719 Speaker 1: that eight minute cartoon. In twenty years from now, n 879 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,480 Speaker 1: f t s are going to fund the revolution somehow. 880 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:51,000 Speaker 1: It's called content creation and we create it. Yeah, the 881 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:55,959 Speaker 1: human desire calling it for today no more. This is fun, 882 00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:01,239 Speaker 1: so fun um at Worst Year pod online in you 883 00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,799 Speaker 1: know the things you've already followed us, You already know 884 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,680 Speaker 1: it online rate and review. I've been told that's a 885 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:16,760 Speaker 1: good thing to say everything everything so dull. It's again. 886 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:23,200 Speaker 1: I tried Dan. Worst Year Ever is a production of 887 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,959 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. For more podcasts from my heart Radio, 888 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,040 Speaker 1: visit the I heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever 889 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:30,440 Speaker 1: you listen to your favorite shows.